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Started by Grzrd, September 20, 2010, 12:25:35 PM

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seicer

There have been plans out there to rebuild the I-265/64 interchange, and then the I-265/71 interchange, but now there are plans to reconstruct the I-265/65 interchange.


hbelkins

Those cloverleafs at 265/64 and 265/71 date to the 1960s, and are badly in need of replacement, but the configuration of the 265/65 interchange confuses me, since it's so much newer. I don't know why some sort of flyover wasn't built to link westbound 265/841 to southbound 65, instead of the loop ramp that's currently there.


Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

rte66man

Quote from: abqtraveler on September 03, 2018, 10:18:02 PM
Google hasn't been down the Purchase Parkway around Mayfield in quite some time. I think the street view images along the Purchase through Mayfield date back to the 2012-2013 timeframe. 

Was on Google Earth today and noticed the Street View for the Calvert City interchange was dated 5/2018. The normal view is still 2015.
When you come to a fork in the road... TAKE IT.

                                                               -Yogi Berra

GreenLanternCorps


sparker

Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on January 24, 2019, 09:30:57 AM
Google Maps has the Streetview of the Southern End of I-69 in Kentucky

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7212172,-88.6857693,3a,68.3y,62.25h,88.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA00SUWaiNB7SUS4KqzQAmg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656


And, not coincidentally, the southern end of the K-rail median for I-69.  Although not the "prettiest" thing in the world, quite an improvement over the markedly narrow grass median common to the KY parkways, which potentially posed issues with crossover traffic incidents.  It's probably safe to assume that as the former Purchase is upgraded, the K-rail will follow suit. 

seicer

That's interesting. It's not the jersey barrier (with height extension) that they were using on I-75 and I-65 with the widening projects. This is more in line with newer Ohio and West Virginia installations.

Roadsguy

Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on January 24, 2019, 09:30:57 AM
Google Maps has the Streetview of the Southern End of I-69 in Kentucky

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7212172,-88.6857693,3a,68.3y,62.25h,88.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA00SUWaiNB7SUS4KqzQAmg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Is signage of I-69 and the elimination of Purchase Parkway shields now consistent all the way from here to I-24?
Mileage-based exit numbering implies the existence of mileage-cringe exit numbering.

GreenLanternCorps

Quote from: Roadsguy on January 24, 2019, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on January 24, 2019, 09:30:57 AM
Google Maps has the Streetview of the Southern End of I-69 in Kentucky

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7212172,-88.6857693,3a,68.3y,62.25h,88.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA00SUWaiNB7SUS4KqzQAmg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Is signage of I-69 and the elimination of Purchase Parkway shields now consistent all the way from here to I-24?

I-69 is now signed continuously from Mayfield to Henderson.

Roadsguy

Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on January 24, 2019, 05:02:08 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on January 24, 2019, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on January 24, 2019, 09:30:57 AM
Google Maps has the Streetview of the Southern End of I-69 in Kentucky

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7212172,-88.6857693,3a,68.3y,62.25h,88.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA00SUWaiNB7SUS4KqzQAmg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Is signage of I-69 and the elimination of Purchase Parkway shields now consistent all the way from here to I-24?

I-69 is now signed continuously from Mayfield to Henderson.

Is it officially designated but unsigned down to the TN state line?
Mileage-based exit numbering implies the existence of mileage-cringe exit numbering.

sparker

Quote from: Roadsguy on January 24, 2019, 05:12:52 PM
Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on January 24, 2019, 05:02:08 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on January 24, 2019, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on January 24, 2019, 09:30:57 AM
Google Maps has the Streetview of the Southern End of I-69 in Kentucky

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7212172,-88.6857693,3a,68.3y,62.25h,88.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA00SUWaiNB7SUS4KqzQAmg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Is signage of I-69 and the elimination of Purchase Parkway shields now consistent all the way from here to I-24?

I-69 is now signed continuously from Mayfield to Henderson.

Is it officially designated but unsigned down to the TN state line?

It's designated as a future Interstate south of the endpoint depicted above, but won't be approved for actual signage until upgrades, including interchange modification and median work, are completed.  Technically, KY could, with FHWA consent, sign any qualifying portion of their corridor portion; but they may not do so until the Fulton-area projects connecting them to a completed TN route are ready to go.   Since the Purchase Parkway section will likely be completed prior to the Fulton connector, we'll just have to see what strategy they take -- sign it ASAP or wait for TN/connector to be done. 

hbelkins

Quote from: sparker on January 24, 2019, 09:09:51 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on January 24, 2019, 05:12:52 PM
Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on January 24, 2019, 05:02:08 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on January 24, 2019, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on January 24, 2019, 09:30:57 AM
Google Maps has the Streetview of the Southern End of I-69 in Kentucky

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7212172,-88.6857693,3a,68.3y,62.25h,88.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA00SUWaiNB7SUS4KqzQAmg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Is signage of I-69 and the elimination of Purchase Parkway shields now consistent all the way from here to I-24?

I-69 is now signed continuously from Mayfield to Henderson.

Is it officially designated but unsigned down to the TN state line?

It's designated as a future Interstate south of the endpoint depicted above, but won't be approved for actual signage until upgrades, including interchange modification and median work, are completed.  Technically, KY could, with FHWA consent, sign any qualifying portion of their corridor portion; but they may not do so until the Fulton-area projects connecting them to a completed TN route are ready to go.   Since the Purchase Parkway section will likely be completed prior to the Fulton connector, we'll just have to see what strategy they take -- sign it ASAP or wait for TN/connector to be done.

No reason they shouldn't sign it, since they have it signed north on the Pennyrile Parkway up to the approximate point where the new alignment will leave the existing route when the Ohio River bridge is built.


Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

abqtraveler

Quote from: hbelkins on January 25, 2019, 11:19:03 AM
Quote from: sparker on January 24, 2019, 09:09:51 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on January 24, 2019, 05:12:52 PM
Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on January 24, 2019, 05:02:08 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on January 24, 2019, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on January 24, 2019, 09:30:57 AM
Google Maps has the Streetview of the Southern End of I-69 in Kentucky

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7212172,-88.6857693,3a,68.3y,62.25h,88.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sA00SUWaiNB7SUS4KqzQAmg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Is signage of I-69 and the elimination of Purchase Parkway shields now consistent all the way from here to I-24?

I-69 is now signed continuously from Mayfield to Henderson.

Is it officially designated but unsigned down to the TN state line?

It's designated as a future Interstate south of the endpoint depicted above, but won't be approved for actual signage until upgrades, including interchange modification and median work, are completed.  Technically, KY could, with FHWA consent, sign any qualifying portion of their corridor portion; but they may not do so until the Fulton-area projects connecting them to a completed TN route are ready to go.   Since the Purchase Parkway section will likely be completed prior to the Fulton connector, we'll just have to see what strategy they take -- sign it ASAP or wait for TN/connector to be done.

No reason they shouldn't sign it, since they have it signed north on the Pennyrile Parkway up to the approximate point where the new alignment will leave the existing route when the Ohio River bridge is built.

The final 20 or so miles from Mayfield to the TN line are still not up to interstate standards, so the FHWA won't allow this section of the Purchase Parkway to be signed as I-69 yet.

Reconstructing the interchange at Wingo won't happen for a few years, but they could install cable barriers in the median from Mayfield to Wingo fairly quick, and get the I-69 designation extended another 7 miles.  KYTC could also ready the last 14 miles of the mainline, so all that remains are yhe two interchanges at Wingo and South Fulton.
2-d Interstates traveled:  4, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 24, 25, 27, 29, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 49, 55, 57, 64, 65, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76(E), 77, 78, 81, 83, 84(W), 85, 87(N), 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95

2-d Interstates Clinched:  12, 22, 30, 37, 44, 59, 80, 84(E), 86(E), 238, H1, H2, H3, H201

jnewkirk77

KYTC could enter into an agreement with FHWA, as they did with the Natcher, for the remainder of the route. The "new" I-165 will be signed as such later this year, since much of the work to rectify substandard areas is either underway or soon will be. The toll booth interchanges at Bowling Green, Morgantown and Hartford won't be replaced for several years.

hbelkins

Nothing was done to the majority of the medians along the WK and Purchase parkways that I-69 ate. Was anything done to the Purchase other than in the vicinity of the US 45 bypass interchange that eliminated the TOTSO? I don't recall seeing any work for cable barriers when I was last there 14 months ago.


Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

Hot Rod Hootenanny

Quote from: hbelkins on January 26, 2019, 04:44:24 PM
Nothing was done to the majority of the medians along the WK and Purchase parkways that I-69 ate. Was anything done to the Purchase other than in the vicinity of the US 45 bypass interchange that eliminated the TOTSO? I don't recall seeing any work for cable barriers when I was last there 14 months ago.

From what I saw today (Sunday), nope.
Please, don't sue Alex & Andy over what I wrote above

GreenLanternCorps

I-69 Is now correctly marked in Google Maps from I-24 South to Mayfield.

And in typical Google Maps fashion, incorrectly marked all the way South to the TOTSO at US 51 just across the Tennessee line...


"Eh, Close enough."  - Google Maps motto

Roadsguy

Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on February 01, 2019, 11:55:54 AM
I-69 Is now correctly marked in Google Maps from I-24 South to Mayfield.

And in typical Google Maps fashion, incorrectly marked all the way South to the TOTSO at US 51 just across the Tennessee line...


"Eh, Close enough."  - Google Maps motto

And as normal for any time they add an interchange reconfiguration, the Mayfield trumpet is now an abomination of the new one partially superimposed over the old one.
Mileage-based exit numbering implies the existence of mileage-cringe exit numbering.

GreenLanternCorps

Quote from: Roadsguy on February 01, 2019, 12:07:36 PM
Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on February 01, 2019, 11:55:54 AM
I-69 Is now correctly marked in Google Maps from I-24 South to Mayfield.

And in typical Google Maps fashion, incorrectly marked all the way South to the TOTSO at US 51 just across the Tennessee line...


"Eh, Close enough."  - Google Maps motto

And as normal for any time they add an interchange reconfiguration, the Mayfield trumpet is now an abomination of the new one partially superimposed over the old one.

"Wait, you want us to take another picture of the Midwest?  We did that five years ago!"

Stephane Dumas

Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on February 01, 2019, 12:17:29 PM
Quote from: Roadsguy on February 01, 2019, 12:07:36 PM
Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on February 01, 2019, 11:55:54 AM
I-69 Is now correctly marked in Google Maps from I-24 South to Mayfield.

And in typical Google Maps fashion, incorrectly marked all the way South to the TOTSO at US 51 just across the Tennessee line...


"Eh, Close enough."  - Google Maps motto

And as normal for any time they add an interchange reconfiguration, the Mayfield trumpet is now an abomination of the new one partially superimposed over the old one.

"Wait, you want us to take another picture of the Midwest?  We did that five years ago!"

Let's see if Bing Streetside* will update it and if they did it, let's see if that wake up the guys of Google Streetview. ;) 

*Still wondering if Bing Streetside will cover Canada soon but that's for another story.

ThatRandomOshawott

Is the Mayfield trumpet complete? I haven't been down there in a while, but while it was under construction, traffic flow was a bit of a circus (you had to take detours if you wanted to get on U. S. 45)

hbelkins

Quote from: ThatRandomOshawott on February 28, 2019, 09:36:01 PM
Is the Mayfield trumpet complete? I haven't been down there in a while, but while it was under construction, traffic flow was a bit of a circus (you had to take detours if you wanted to get on U. S. 45)

Yep. The parkway is now the through movement.


Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

codyg1985

Quote from: hbelkins on March 01, 2019, 12:45:54 PM
Quote from: ThatRandomOshawott on February 28, 2019, 09:36:01 PM
Is the Mayfield trumpet complete? I haven't been down there in a while, but while it was under construction, traffic flow was a bit of a circus (you had to take detours if you wanted to get on U. S. 45)

Yep. The parkway is now the through movement.

It shows up on Google Street View now: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7262519,-88.6745939,3a,51.4y,81.51h,102.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stpxjluVOLlonN77KNtFxqw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Cody Goodman
Huntsville, AL, United States

edwaleni

Google analyzes phone tracking data.  They update when the phones report large use on a route not defined on the map itself.  Then they will ship a contracted camera car out to the new route to collect imagery.

As for the sat data, in the urban areas, they are good at updates, but there are still large parts of the US that still have sat imagery from the early 2000's.  There are still some low res street imagery from 2003 in certain spots.

Many cities and towns in the flyover states only have had 1 camera car pass through ever, and its only the main street.

In Seattle, there are so many sub-street views in so many places, many of them were taken by camera bicycles, and a Google camera car risked life and limb to drive a dirt road to reach Kona Point in Hawaii. Which to me is ridiculous.

Yet many towns of 5000 people or less are after thoughts and have neever been touched.

hbelkins

Quote from: edwaleni on March 02, 2019, 11:34:55 PM
Google analyzes phone tracking data.  They update when the phones report large use on a route not defined on the map itself.  Then they will ship a contracted camera car out to the new route to collect imagery.

Google, through Waze, also partners with some states to exchange information. Kentucky is one of those states. If Kentucky has updated its maps, then Google/Waze will be alerted to the change.


Government would be tolerable if not for politicians and bureaucrats.

Revive 755

Quote from: codyg1985 on March 01, 2019, 12:54:38 PM
It shows up on Google Street View now: https://www.google.com/maps/@36.7262519,-88.6745939,3a,51.4y,81.51h,102.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stpxjluVOLlonN77KNtFxqw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The best they could do was 50 mph for the curve?  I foresee that interchange developing a crash problem, and have to wonder if a brief section of new alignment to the west would not have been a better option.



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