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SEWIGuy:

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--- Quote from: hobsini2 on November 18, 2022, 02:53:06 PM ---Speaking of the Wis 29 & I/US 41 JCT in Green Bay, I do have a couple small issues with a few of the signs leading up to the JCT, specifically Eastbound on 29. I am going to do a redesign of these signs under the sign redesign thread this weekend. But here are the signs I have the issue with:

1. https://www.google.com/maps/@44.551932,-88.1099419,3a,75y,126.15h,82.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEQ8c_4-K3y4CaraRy-SDgg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1
2. https://www.google.com/maps/@44.547793,-88.0999179,3a,75y,116.72h,83.85t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7dUn7eycbhD8_N5f1YThxw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1
3. https://www.google.com/maps/@44.5460744,-88.0957466,3a,75y,117.64h,92.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2XRzB86ZRKb6r00MRWTK4Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1

I know simplicity is the way to go but a couple things are missing.
In the first one, I-41 technically is a left exit from Wis 29.
In the next 2, they put up Hwy EB but fail to mention that EB is Packerland Dr, a major roadway on the west side. Google doesn't even bother to label it as Hwy EB. They label it as Packerland and Cardinal. Otherwise, have a side sign that says Packerland and Cardinal, Next Right.  And as for the Green Bay control, I think you would be better having Shawano Ave as the control because you are coming off a freeway onto a city street if you are stay on 29.

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Yeah that last one shows exactly what I am talking about.  WI-29 leaves the highway before the interchange, so if WI-32 weren't routed along it to I-41, there would technically be no number for it's last stretch.

Which is terribly annoying.  Sometimes it doesn't help to be a roadgeeek.  For instance, the last time I took this exit, I wanted to get onto the surface street, which I knew was West WI-29.

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.5434277,-88.0734135,3a,75y,209.38h,92.52t/data=!3m9!1e1!3m7!1sBStvqbBRJORMY_hOiyAMsA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!9m2!1b1!2i28!5m1!1e1

So I took the West WI-29 exit, only to find myself on the highway.  But look!  When you go straight to Shawano Avenue, it also is marked West WI-29!

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.5396604,-88.0770901,3a,75y,242.59h,93.21t/data=!3m9!1e1!3m7!1sSZrlKyfZOwEnN_kYH6Pl3Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!9m2!1b1!2i28!5m1!1e1

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If WI 32 was routed concurrent with WI 29 from south of Pulaski to Ashland Av, the unmarked portion of the interchange would be no different than this or this. And if Ohio ever replaces the I-76/I-80 interchange with something with flyover ramps, there is a good chance both highways will be on flyover ramps and no highway as drivers traverse the bridge, over or under.

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Plus all the WI trunk highway spurs are unsigned, and WI 341 was also unsigned, so itís not like WisDOT hasnít hidden a trunk highway designation before.

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Or they could just keep it as it is now, which keeps that portion of Ashland Ave off the state highway system.

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Yes of course. But the point is that they werenít forced to use WIS 32 as a crutch on the flyover ramps in order to keep those ramps in the trunk highway system.

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Who said they were ďforced?Ē

peterj920:
Governor Evers tweeted a picture of a photo shoot for the upcoming new map. There hasnít been a new map in a while but there arenít really any major updates outside of Wis 23 expansion between Fond Du Lac and Plymouth. I am hoping that US 12/The Beltline in Madison, Wis 145 in Milwaukee, and Wis 119 are back to being marked as freeways instead of 4 lane divided highways.

mgk920:

--- Quote from: peterj920 on December 30, 2022, 09:29:14 PM ---Governor Evers tweeted a picture of a photo shoot for the upcoming new map. There hasnít been a new map in a while but there arenít really any major updates outside of Wis 23 expansion between Fond Du Lac and Plymouth. I am hoping that US 12/The Beltline in Madison, Wis 145 in Milwaukee, and Wis 119 are back to being marked as freeways instead of 4 lane divided highways.

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I would assume that the WI 15 Hortonville bypass is at least shown as being under construction.

Mike

GeekJedi:
I was at my storage shed yesterday (next to the tracks on Merrill Hills Rd. in Waukesha) and it really drives home why the West Bypass was needed. I used to live on Mac Arthur Rd., so I could see for years that Merrill Hills was unsafe.

However, just look at Merrill Hills off of Sunset and look at how narrow the road is and how close the trees are to the road. Then look over at the bypass and see the traffic there.

When I was growing up, Merrill Hills was a fairly quiet country road. It ended at a "T" intersection with US-18. However once it was extended north, traffic picked up. Trying to make a left onto Merrill Hills anywhere between Sunset Dr. and 18 was a challenge, often ending in a crash. The speed limit was 45 with people doing 55 on a road with no shoulders and limited sight lines.

Long story short, despite some rumblings on the expense, in hindsight finally finishing the bypass was necessary. I'm glad it's done!

SSOWorld:
I was miffed at the need for a bypass to the south of Waukesha when I-94 went to the north

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