Speaking of Delaware...I noticed this evening that DelDOT is using "bubble shields" on I-495...
I did not use Interstate 95 once between Exit 109 in Maryland and Exit 3 in Delaware.I can't remember the last time I actually drove THROUGH the toll booths in Delaware, especially with a free alternate available with little or no time penalty.
A combination of speed limit-distance computation and personal experience (of which I've had a bit lately, with all these DC-Vermont trips I've been taking).
One thing I don't understand about your comment. If it takes longer to bypass around, how can that be "moving at a faster rate of speed"?
Something about use I-495 if over 14'6", I think.
Because it's DelDOT and oversigning things is right up there with carbon copying signs on their priority list.Something about use I-495 if over 14'6", I think.
But they already plaster that on the bottom of every Interstate 95/U.S. 202 north sign beyond the I-295 split, so why have even more signage? :crazy:
Something about use I-495 if over 14'6", I think.
A section of Del. 9 near Dover Air Force Base is closed for construction, the Delaware Department of Transportation says.
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The closing will allow for connection of new interchange ramps at Del. 1 with Del. 9 and Kitts Hummock Road.
Del. 9 will be closed between Kitts Hummock Road and Bergold Lane.
So Delaware has both State Route 9 and U.S. Route 9? I thought they didn't have identical numbers within the Interstate/US Highway/State Route numbering systems? :confused:Not in Delaware. Old US 202 is DE 202. I can't tell you how awful that situation is. They should have taken a page from US 322 in NJ and numbered it DE 204. Or Business 202 would work. At least US 9 doesn't come close to intersecting DE 9.
State and county officials are hoping a $75 million project will improve traffic flow along one of the area's main beach evacuation routes.
Instead of widening Del. 26, Delaware Department of Transportation officials said they plan to add turn lanes and signals in the coming years to reduce congestion.
According to officials, the Del. 26 project, which could break ground as soon as 2012
HMSHost, which has operated the plaza since it opened in 1964, won the bid to build a $32 million facility and run it for the next 35 years. The Maryland-based company operates more than 80 highway rest stops in North America.
"We want to be open for the July Fourth holiday," Wilkins said.
When the plaza closed in September, I-95 travelers were left without a rest stop for 95 miles, between the Chesapeake House rest stop in Maryland and the John Fenwick Service Area in New Jersey.
...all pile drivings have been completed, and work has begun on the approach foundations for the new $230 million bridge spanning the inlet, DelDOT said in a project update.
The new bridge design calls for a 2,600-foot-long bridge with a 900-foot span across the inlet. It will be supported by cables in a design similar to the Roth Bridge over the Chesapeake & Delaware Canal.
The inlet was 25 feet deep in 1965, but over time has deepened to 100 feet or more in some places.
It is expected to be completed in spring 2011.
"We want to be open for the July Fourth holiday," Wilkins said.
When the plaza closed in September, I-95 travelers were left without a rest stop for 95 miles, between the Chesapeake House rest stop in Maryland and the John Fenwick Service Area in New Jersey.
95 miles? Apparently they haven't been to Virginia post rest area closing. Besides the state line welcome centers, travelers going north on I-95 or I-85 (to I-95) don't have much in the way of rest areas anymore (as I found out today too).Same deal on I-81, with a few still scattered around along the route.
Northern Delaware’s transportation planning agency has released its recommendations for improving the region’s roads from 2011 through 2014.
The Wilmington Area Planning Council’s draft Transportation Improvement Program includes about $1.9 billion worth of projects in New Castle County and Cecil County, Md. The plan focuses on preserving existing infrastructure and addressing safety concerns, rather than new projects, because of funding shortfalls in the region, the agency said.
Key projects include adding two high-speed E-ZPass lanes to the I-95 toll plaza near Newark, improvements to the interchange at Del.1 and I-95, the U.S. 301 expressway near Middletown and rail track expansion in New Castle County.
Some projects, including the E-ZPass lanes on I-95, will be funded by the federal stimulus program.
The draft plan is available for public review at www.wilmapco.org/tip or at the WILMAPCO office, 850 Library Ave., Suite 100, Newark. A public workshop is scheduled for 4-7 p.m. Feb. 22 at WILMAPCO.
Nope...those are in suburban Maryland...
Del. 299 upgrades in works (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20100215/NEWS/2150333/1006/Del.-299-upgrades-in-works)
Planning continues for stretch through Middletown near potential hospital site
The last time I was in Delaware, DelDOT was rebuilding the Delaware House. Are we to assume they're going to get rid of those "Duncan Hines logo" shields too?
(https://www.aaroads.com/delaware/delaware050/i-095_nb_exit_003a_06.jpg)
Or are they "Peek Freans logos?" I always thought those were funny names.
Pretty good chance they'll keep them.
From this fall...
(http://www.millenniumhwy.net/2009_Northeast_Day_5/Images/250.jpg)
I really wish they would keep those. They do look really neat, shape wise. They also look more like a Denny's logo.Ah yes, Denny's. Makes a lot more sense than "Peek Freans" or "Duncan Hines."
DelDOT's latest update on the project: "As of this week, all four footers of the bridge are complete. Eventually they will be put underground and not visible, however like the foundation of any structure they are key in giving the bridge its strength and long-term stability."
The new bridge design calls for a 2,600-foot-long bridge with a 900-foot span across the inlet. It will be supported by cables in a design similar to theRoth BridgeSR 1 Turnpike Bridge over the Chesapeake & Delaware Canal.
The current construction is the state's second try at a new bridge over the inlet. Problems with the first bridge approaches came to light in 2007, when fill dirt at the site began to shift and slip, creating a multimillion-dollar setback.
The contract was abandoned and re-advertised and the bridge re-designed. It is expected to be completed in spring 2011.
Drivers can visit the project Web site, www.irib.deldot.gov, to get traffic updates, view cameras or get more information on the construction
14.Corridor Management Plan
ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF A SCENIC BYWAY DESIGNATION IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF A CORRIDOR MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT IDENTIFIES STRATEGIES DESIGNED TO PRESERVE THE UNIQUE AND IRREPLACEABLE ATTRIBUTES OF THE BYWAY.
THE RED CLAY VALLEY SCENIC BYWAY ALLIANCE, COMPRISED OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM NON-PROFIT AGENCIES, PRESERVATION GROUPS, GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, STAKEHOLDERS, RESIDENTS OF THE AREA AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC, COMPLETED SUCH A CORRIDOR MANAGEMENT PLAN IN 2008.
ONE OF THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS OF THAT PLAN WAS TO EXPLORE THE DELISTING OF STATE ROUTE 82 AS A STATE ROUTE, IN ORDER TO HELP PROTECT ITS INTRINSIC QUALITIES.
REMOVING THE STATE ROUTE DESIGNATION IS A STRATEGY THAT HAS BEEN USED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES IN AN EFFORT TO PRESERVE RESOURCES FOUND ALONG THEIR ROADWAY.
FOR EXAMPLE, IN 1998, APPROXIMATELY FIVE-AND-A-HALF MILES OF STATE ROUTE 82 LOCATED IN UNIONVILLE, PENNSYLVANIA WAS DELISTED BY THAT STATE IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC, VILLAGE CHARACTER OF THAT COMMUNITY.
When exactly will DE 82 be taken down? I will try my best at getting down there and getting shots of any DE 82 shields.
I think at that point they should just truncate 82 back to US 1 if DE 82 is canned
Heh, maybe DelDOT will supply us with more NJ 82 shields for Morris Avenue, if NJ thought of extending it into the city of Elizabeth further
Heh, maybe DelDOT will supply us with more NJ 82 shields for Morris Avenue, if NJ thought of extending it into the city of Elizabeth furtherThis is tending toward Fictional Highways, but not in a million years. 82 NEVER went straight. 24-S turned right on what is now 439 (which I'm sure you know). NJDOT is not about to take over another highway just for a number - quite the opposite, it's enjoyed dropping highways in city limits (see 124).
Construction of new high-speed E-ZPass lanes at the I-95 Newark toll plaza will begin in mid-April, the Delaware Department of Transportation announced.
The $32 million project will extend from the Del. 896 interchange to the Otts Chapel Road bridge area. It is being funded by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.
A-Del Construction Co. of Newark was awarded the contract for the work, which will include conversion of the main plaza structure as well as the southbound satellite plaza, DelDOT said.
As many as 125,000 vehicles pass through the toll plaza at peak times during holidays and weekends, causing major backups. DelDOT said construction of the new E-ZPass lanes will allow motorists to maintain highway speed through the area. Similar lanes have been in use at two toll plazas on Del. 1 for several years.
The project is expected to be completed in about 16 months.
Details on the project can be found at http://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/recovery/pages/tollplaza/index.shtml">www.deldot.gov.
Ten more red-light cameras are coming to intersections across Delaware.
The cameras will be installed in all three counties by early summer, the Delaware Department of Transportation announced today, bringing the total number across the state to 30.There will be seven new locations in New Castle County, one in Kent County and two in Sussex County.
The cameras make video recordings of vehicles going through a red light and the registered owner is sent a violation notice requiring payment of a $112.50 fine. The citation is considered a civil offense and does not affect a motorist’s insurance rates or add points to their driving record.
The new locations:
New Castle County
Old Baltimore Pike at Salem Church Road/Salem Woods Drive
Kirkwood Highway at Harmony Road
Kirkwood Highway at Red Mill Road/Polly Drummond Hill Road
Churchmans Road at Del. 1 northbound ramps
Naamans Road at Shipley Road/Brandywine Parkway
Del. 273 at Harmony Road/Gerald Drive
Del. 273 at Del. 7
Kent County
U.S. 13 at Scarborough Road
Sussex County
Del. 1 at Munchy Branch Road/Miller Road
Del. 1 at Old Landing Road
The two Sussex locations will be installed first.
In the first 30 days of operation, motorists will be issued a warning with no fine. “Red light camera enforcement” signs also will be placed at each location.
"We know this program is saving lives and reducing the number of angle crashes, which are more likely to result in serious injury or death," said Transportation Secretary Carolann Wicks.
DelDOT reports that the 20 cameras already installed generate $5.2 million annually, with 41,000
violations issued. DelDOT expects an additional $2.5 million from the new locations.
are fully operational.
Video footage can be viewed and fines paid at http://www.deldot.gov/information/red_light/.
DelDOT has really gotten into the red light camera act. Most new and major intersections accross the state now are equipped with them.
Remind me to find a way to obscure my license plate before my trip into Delaware next month.
Remind me to tell you that doing so is both illegal and of poor character...
QuoteRemind me to find a way to obscure my license plate before my trip into Delaware next month.
Remind me to tell you that doing so is both illegal and of poor character...
Some places got a bad reputation for that, but not eveywhere. For the record, the red light cameras I'm familiar with in this area do not have short yellows. All have the minimum 3 seconds.Rule of thumb is 1 second per 10 mph. Are all your signals on 25-30 mph roads?
...The intersection (DE 2/Harmony Road) is one of 10 statewide that will get new red-light cameras in the next few months, bringing the statewide total to 57 and, officials say, making some of the state’s most dangerous intersections a little safer
Of the roughly $5 million the cameras generated in fines last year, about $2.4 million went to the companies that operate them.
Delaware leases the cameras from American Traffic Solutions Inc. of Arizona for about $4,000 each a month, which includes maintenance, support and operation. The company covers the $1,500 to $2,000 cost of installation, while DelDOT pays to prepare the site.
Fines are $112.50 in Delaware. The fine increases $10 for every month it is late, up to three months.
In other states, it's a criminal offense and carries a heftier fine. Cameras in those states must capture an image of the driver's face so they can be linked to the crime.
Most states require the fine money to be spent on public safety efforts or medical trauma centers.
Access from Del. 1 to Frederica Road at the north end of Frederica will be closed starting today to allow for construction of a new overpass.
The Delaware Department of Transportation says traffic will be detoured to the Del. 1/Frederica Road intersection south of Frederica.
The north intersection will remain closed until late this year or early 2011, DelDOT says.
That strikes me as it being the interchange by which DE 1 traffic would access DE 30, moreso than Wilkins itself necessarily being DE 30. I'm sure it's a State Road linking 30 and 1 anyway, so may as well sign it from 1 to 30 seamlessly.
BTW, Alex, in this project (http://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/sr1_30_gsi/index.shtml), DelDOT themselves still refer to that stretch of Wilkins Rd as DE 30. Could it be that DE 30 wasn't extended along the new frontage road after all? Or could it be a case where they consider BOTH roads to be part of DE 30?
For those who may be interested, here's the proposed layout (http://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/north_frederica/pdfs/preferred_alternative.pdf).
Dover -- The Delaware Department of Transportation (DelDOT) recently completed a Virtual Public Workshop intended to receive public comment on a proposal to declassify State Route 82, removing the state route designation from the roadways that are part of the corridor. As a result of the response generated by the online presentation, DelDOT has announced that no change will be made.
The Virtual Workshop was posted on the DelDOT website on March 4, 2010 and remained available for public viewing and comment for a period of 30 days, until April 4th. Viewers were given an opportunity to respond to the delisting proposal, also online. During the presentation and survey period, DelDOT received 120 responses. Seventy-five percent (75%) of respondents indicated that they opposed the removal of the state route designation from SR82. The main concern expressed by opponents of the proposal was the value of the state route designation when giving directions to visitors who would make their way through the roadways that constitute SR82.
State Route 82 is a five-and-a-half mile corridor in the Red Clay Valley, and is part of a network of roads that were designated by DelDOT as a Scenic Byway in 2004. SR82 includes Campbell Road, New London Road, and Creek Road. The Scenic Byway designation requires the development of a corridor management plan to help preserve the attributes of the byway. The information on the reason for the delisting, including the assurance that it would have no impact on DelDOT's maintenance responsibilities or 911 response, was presented in the online Virtual Workshop. Opponents of the proposal also noted disagreement with the contention that truck and other vehicular traffic would be reduced, and the opinion that the state route designation was part of the historical qualities of the byway.
Concern was also expressed that the new Auburn Heights Preserve on Creek Road in Yorklyn is dependent upon the state route designation in increasing awareness of the location.
A plan to reconfigure several intersections along U.S. 9 has had mixed reception from nearby residents.
Delaware Department of Transportation spokesperson Jason Lang said the changes, through the Highway Safety Improvement Program, are meant to prevent traffic accidents at the intersections of U.S. 9 and Gravel Hill, Hudson, Sweetbriar and Dairy Farm roads.
"There have been enough (accidents) to trigger this project in order to improve safety," he said, though he could not provide exact numbers.
Each intersection is being widened to create separate lanes for through traffic, as well as left and right turns, Lang said.
According to plans, he said Log Cabin Hill Road may be closed or realigned at the Dairy Farm Road intersection, because the road currently funnels traffic almost directly into the intersection.
MILLVILLE – A plan to improve alternative routes for use during the long-gestating Del. 26 improvement project is slated to begin next month, officials said.
Delaware Department of Transportation spokesman Jason Lang said the improvements, which would focus on a series of roads south of the major artery in Millville and Ocean View, will provide a detour when construction on the main project begins.
"The State Route 26 Detour Routes project will cost just under $10 million to build," he said. "And the State Route 26 Mainline project is estimated to cost $30 million."
In 2004, DelDOT released a plan for widening Del. 26, the corridor that connects the beach resorts to U.S. 113, but the project has been repeatedly delayed.
Lang said funding issues have kept the project from moving forward.
Construction on the main project is currently scheduled for fall 2012, pending funding availability, he said.
"We've come a very long way from Hot Shoppes," Gov. Jack Markell said Friday before cutting the ribbon at the 42,657-square-foot Delaware Welcome Center building. The site will open to the public Thursday.
Construction of the center began in fall 2009. The Delaware Department of Transportation owns the site, but no state funding was expended on the project. Delaware makes money from rents and gets a cut of the sales, but more details were unavailable Friday.
Future maintenance will be done by HMSHost, a firm that built and will maintain the center for the next 35 years. HMSHost operated the previous 29,000-square-foot plaza, which was built in 1964.
Everything about the $35 million site -- the only impression many get of Delaware on the state's 24-mile stretch of I-95 -- is bigger and newer.
The previous incarnation saw about 3 million visitors per year. The new center is expected to have 4.5 million visitors. There are 603 parking spaces for cars and 38 for buses.
The site will have 250 employees between restaurants, shops and a 21-pump Sunoco station.
State transportation officials are unveiling a $4 million plan to improve safety at seven intersections along the U.S. 113 corridor in Sussex County.
The plan, which includes work at five crossovers along the dual highway between Millsboro and Dagsboro, has been in the works for several years, and is unrelated to the $839 million long-term bypass plan for the corridor.
The Delaware Department of Transportation said the intersections were identified as having high accident rates. They are in the state's Highway Safety Improvement Program.
"All the sites already demonstrate the need for improvements," said Mike Williams of DelDOT.
Design work should be finished by fall 2011, with construction to begin in spring 2012, Williams said.
The intersections had 217 crashes among them from January 2002 to May 2006, according to DelDOT data.
The proposed work, and crash totals for that period, include:
-Millsboro: Closing the median crossover to prohibit turns from Sheep Pen or Park Pond roads; 19 crashes.
-Millsboro: Blocking left turns from Radish Road and Second Street, creating channels for turns from lanes on U.S. 113; 26 crashes.
-Millsboro: Blocking left turns from Delaware Avenue in both directions, creating channels for turns from U.S. 113; 26 crashes.
-Millsboro -- Del. 20/Hardscrabble Road: Extending acceleration lane along southbound U.S. 113 from eastbound Del. 20; 56 crashes.
-Dagsboro: Blocking left turns from Molly Field Road and Cricket Street, creating channels for turns from U.S. 113 lanes; eight crashes.
-Dagsboro: Creating an additional southbound left turn lane on U.S. 113 onto Dagsboro Road/Del. 20, and closing a median opening north of the intersection; 55 crashes.
-Ellendale: Blocking some turns onto or off Staytonville Road, while allowing some turns off or onto Fleatown Road; 27 crashes.
DelDOT's plans, which are not final, call for designated left-turn lanes in each direction of Kennett Pike, also known as Del. 52.
That would give the state highway separate lanes for turning onto Kirk Road to the east and Campbell Road to the west. DelDOT also plans to add right-turn lanes, bicycle lanes, a street light, a curb along the southbound right-turn lane and new traffic signal masthead arm poles that hang over the intersection.
All the funky shaped rest area signs on I-95 are gone. Looks like they are making some progress on the reconstruction though. The I-95 south ramp from DE-896 south is closed for the express EZ-pass construction. Ironically the detour is the toll shunpike along DE-2 and DE-4 into Maryland.
The state Department of Transportation is about to move forward with a Del. 54 improvement project, which will address safety and traffic issues caused by development along the east-west thoroughfare in southeastern Sussex County.
The project, which has been in the works since an initial survey was conducted in 2003, will increase the width of the road by 40 feet, making room for left turn lanes, a bicycle lane and sidewalks.
Road construction will be conducted in a two-mile span between Selbyville and Fenwick Island, from the west end of the highway at Bayside on Del. 20 to the Mallard Lake Development at Keenwick Road.
DelDOT spokesperson Michael Williams said a bid of about $10 million has been accepted for the project, although an award letter has not yet been issued.
The intersection of Del. 20 and Del. 54 will see a significant improvement through the project, he said.
"With the increased development in that area in the last couple years and the heavy traffic in summer, a dedicated turn lane is the perfect option," he said.
WILMINGTON -- Seven new red-light cameras will be added to the 27 already in place in the city -- and all will soon be converted to digital technology.
The new cameras will be activated Oct. 4, Police Chief Michael Szczerba said.
The new locations are eastbound on Pennsylvania Avenue at Lincoln Street, eastbound Pennsylvania Avenue at Franklin Street, eastbound Lancaster Avenue at Cleveland Avenue, southbound South Heald Street at D Street, westbound Fourth Street at Adams Street, westbound Fourth Street at Washington Street and westbound Lancaster Avenue at Cleveland Avenue.
The digital conversion will provide better-quality images of vehicles traveling through intersections and will better allow city officials to determine if violations actually took place. For example, the new images will make it easier to determine if a vehicle came to a complete stop at a red light before making a right turn, Szczerba said.
Vehicle owners will still get photos sent to them, but they soon will be able to view a 10- second video of the alleged infraction online, city Communications Director John Rago said.
The digital conversion of the 27 current red-light cameras will be done by December.
Mayor James M. Baker said the program has reduced red-light violations at intersections by about 50 percent since the program began in 2001, making them safer.
But critics have called the program a money grab. The $110 tickets generate about $2.2 million a year. About 37 percent of that goes to ACS Government Solutions, the Baltimore company that manages the red-light program for the city.
The land between Millsboro and Frankford is home to many Sussex County poultry farms and cornfields, a quiet, rural area that has co-existed peacefully with U.S. 113 since the highway was built almost a century ago.
But now, as a state road project threatens to split their countryside, residents and farmers are joining forces to fight the $839 million bypass the state says is needed to keep roads from clogging in the decades ahead.
Hundreds of county residents have told state transportation officials they don’t want its U.S. 113 bypass plan, mounting a level of opposition reminiscent of the effort that halted a similar, related project near Milford in 2008.
From her neighbor’s backyard, Nancy Davis looks out at Betts Pond, just outside Millsboro, where the calm water is often used by fishermen and kayakers.
Under DelDOT’s plan, a highway bridge would span part of the pond to route cars around downtown Millsboro, destroying the tranquility she and her neighbors love.
“It’s quiet around here,” Davis said. “We want to keep it that way.”
More than 700 people are on record opposing the Delaware Department of Transportation's preferred route, compared with fewer than 50 people who support state's plan. Millsboro Town Council and the town's mayor have voted to support the plan.
The opposition was documented in petitions, comment forms, letters and e-mails submitted to DelDOT.
DelDOT initially attempted to keep the identities of the writers secret, citing privacy concerns, and released them only after The News Journal appealed to the Attorney General's Office under the Freedom of Information Act. The office agreed that the identities of the commenters were crucial to understanding the agency's decision on the project.
The not-in-my-backyard battle pits DelDOT's portrait of a highway clogged with beach-bound traffic against people who say the plan would run too close to residential neighborhoods, divide or ruin farmland and cost too much money.
"Highway engineers get kind of taken away with their maps and lines and grandiose projects, and sometimes it takes the citizens and Legislature to get them back to the ground level," said Frankford-area orchard owner Jim Bennett, a leading opponent.
The debate has attracted residents not just from the Millsboro-to-Selbyville corridor. A petition drive run by three Millsboro-area residents snagged more than 500 signatures this summer. Davis and her neighbor, David Potter, were among the leaders.
"I didn't talk to anybody in favor of the bypass," Davis said.
The fight has energized farmers whose land would be taken, with the politically powerful county Farm Bureau weighing in against the project.
"They're going to cut off this pristine farmland just so somebody could get to the beach five minutes faster," said third-generation farmer Paul Parsons, who will have three of his family's four Dagsboro-area farm parcels affected -- the bypass slicing them in half or running along the edge. "It's just ridiculous."
Others have expressed concern about the environmental impact as the bypass bridges Indian River, Pepper Creek and Vines Creek.
"They are pristine watersheds, with a major highway," Bennett said.
Linda Mancuso, who lives on Betts Pond Road outside Millsboro, said she understands the need for a bypass but doesn't quite get why it's so close to her home.
"Basically, they're in our backyard," Mancuso said. "It just seems like our central area right there is taking a large brunt of this bypass."
DelDOT officials say they're just proceeding with a traffic-oriented imperative. If something isn't done, they say, in two more decades, U.S. 113 will be almost too clogged to move.
"The people living and doing business in the area in 2030 are going to thank us for having that foresight," said spokesman Mike Williams. "This isn't about today -- it's about 20, 30 years from now."
He said residents' complaints that the plan is simply focused on beach-bound tourists are wrong -- it's meant to address both long-distance and local drivers.
Many of the opponents are demanding the 12.7-mile bypass from north of Millsboro to south of Frankford be dropped in favor of widening and improving the existing highway corridor. That "on-alignment" option is being proposed for other phases of the project in Georgetown and Ellendale.
The state has set aside $1 million for early land purchases and development for the Millsboro-south portion. DelDOT said projects such as this are usually funded up to 80 percent by the federal government, putting Delaware's share at about $167 million.
Today, the dual highway is a main corridor for residents who commute to Georgetown and Dover from the south. Truck traffic still hauls poultry from processing plants, but the chickens have been joined during the summer by a huge flow of beach traffic.
Tourists can head directly south to Ocean City, Md., or use Del. 24, 26 or 54 to get to Delaware's southern resorts, bypassing often-clogged Del. 1 at Lewes and Rehoboth Beach.
DelDOT's preferred plan also turns part of U.S. 113 into a limited-access highway from south of Frankford -- where the bypass would connect -- to the state line at Selbyville. On that portion of the highway, the "on-alignment" element, residents and business owners will be able to access U.S. 113, but will have to use an overpass to head in the opposite direction.
Bennett has a keen perspective on the situation -- he served as a member of the original working group of area residents, business owners and civic leaders who gave input on options.
He and others say instead of building a bypass, DelDOT should widen and improve the existing U.S. 113 footprint, perhaps adding lanes gradually as time and money allows.
Bennett said the state's plan -- to build the bypass first and then improve the southern section of the highway, from south of Frankford to the state line, would create a huge mess when the bypass dumps travelers back onto an unimproved highway.
"This is going to have to be built in its entirety," Bennett said. "You can't just build half of it and end up with people nowhere."
By 2030, traffic along the north-south corridor between Millsboro and the state line at Selbyville could increase by up to 53 percent -- almost 20,000 more cars a day. By 2025 on Del. 24, an east-west route that connects with U.S. 113 in Millsboro, driving will be so slow, it will be more like walking, residents fear.
That's the reason area residents such as Karen Twilley support the project.
Twilley lives on the west side of the highway outside Millsboro, and said it takes too much time to get from one side of town to the other -- up to a half-hour to travel three miles at some times. If she needs to go to a doctor's appointment in Rehoboth, for example, "to get through that mess is torture," she said.
"The traffic is insane," Twilley said. "Something needs to happen."
Noticed 2 more roundabouts in southern New Castle County on Friday: at DE 15/St. Annes Church Rd, and at St. Annes Church Rd/Wiggins Mill Rd. Both junctions involved realignment of all roads involved, and all have a 4th, currently unused leg to serve future development. If you look at Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=39.427243,-75.733545&spn=0.011702,0.02738&z=16), you can see the ROW plats for both junctions.
The $11 million project should be done by the end of the year, but motorists can still expect delays in the meantime
By ROBIN BROWN - The News Journal - October 15, 2010
An $11 million project to improve U.S. 301 in the Middletown area is on schedule to be finished by the end of the year, state road officials said today.
But motorists can expect some daytime delays Monday and Tuesday as the next phase of the project begins.
The massive project -- blamed for creating a variety of traffic issues including minor crashes involving inattentive drivers -- began in July 2008, with A-Del Construction as its primary contractor.
Jim Westhoff, a DelDOT community relations officer, said the upcoming delays will be caused by the removal and replacement of concrete barriers to establish a new traffic pattern.
Traffic will be shifted to the outside lanes of each direction between Del. 299 and Ash Boulevard, Westhoff said.
“This lane shift is necessary to allow contractors to complete new medians and turn lanes,” he said.
The new traffic pattern is expected to last about six weeks, Westhoff said, to be followed by the final placement of asphalt on U.S. 301 north of Del. 299.
But, he said, “because the work is weather sensitive, this phase of the project could be prolonged by poor conditions.”
Construction at the I-95 toll plaza near Newark is expected to cause extreme delays next week because of the Thanksgiving holiday, the Delaware Department of Transportation said.
Travel delays are expected to start as early as Tuesday morning and continue until the evening of Nov. 29. At peak times, delays are expected to stretch for miles.
DelDOT released a chart (http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?template=zoom&Site=BL&Date=20101118&Category=NEWS&ArtNo=101118021&Ref=V1) showing expected peak travel times on I-95 during the holiday weekend.
Motorists are encouraged to use alternative routes or to travel during hours with lower traffic volumes.
Plenty of people come through the door these days at Leon's Garden Center on Elkton Road, not far from the busy I-95 toll plaza near the Delaware-Maryland line.
Too often, owner Leon Silicki said Tuesday, they're looking for a way to beat toll plaza charges and epic interstate traffic snarls near Newark that DelDOT warns could reach meltdown levels this Thanksgiving.
"Traffic is incredible. Our big thing is we probably have 50 people coming in a day, asking 'How do I get back to I-95,' because they don't want to go through the toll or pay the toll," Silicki said. "It's almost to the point where it becomes annoying for local people."
By Sunday, Delaware's stretch of I-95 will likely be annoying for a lot more than locals as an unfinished, $32 million toll plaza expansion turns into the biggest holiday traffic turkey of any predicted by highway, bridge and airport agencies across the mid-Atlantic.
Usually reserved DelDOT officials have admitted publicly that lane and toll-booth closings are likely to cause backups in coming days that will last through Monday. Problems "are expected to be greater than in recent years, and could stretch for miles and take hours to clear."
Jim Lardear, public and government affairs director for AAA Mid-Atlantic, said Tuesday that backups could stretch 20 miles, dwarfing last year's seven-mile crawl.
"It's important that people plan ahead and look for alternatives," Lardear said.
Warnings about the Delaware bottleneck already have gone out to highway agencies from North Carolina to Boston, and roadside message boards have been placed in Pennsylvania and Maryland miles before the Delaware line.
"We seriously considered offering alternate route directions, but it became an overwhelming task, because we have thousands of different destination points from start to end," said Michael Williams of DelDOT.
Newark's toll plaza handled an average 73,000 vehicles daily last year, peaking at 130,000 on the Sunday after Thanksgiving.
Forecasts for travelers elsewhere were relatively serene, by comparison.
The Maryland Transportation Authority holiday advisory focused heavily on Delaware's choke point. MTA officials also cautioned that the U.S. 40 Hatem Memorial Bridge over the Susquehanna River at Perryville was unlikely to offer solace for those abandoning I-95, because of lane closings and construction on that span.
An estimated 700,000 vehicles are expected to travel I-95 in Maryland, and 460,000 are predicted for the Chesapeake Bay Bridge crossing east of Annapolis.
Jenny Robinson of the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation said the Keystone State, like Delaware and Maryland, halts construction projects during the Thanksgiving holiday whenever possible to keep traffic flowing even in heavy hours.
"Thanksgiving is the busiest travel season of the year. There's going to be a lot of volume on the highways regardless of whether or not there's construction," Robinson said. "People certainly should be aware of that and plan on extra time."
Pennsylvania and surrounding states will step up police patrols and enforcement of seat-belt laws and other regulations, Robinson added.
Delaware River and Bay Authority Police Master Cpl. Joseph DiStefano said all lanes and booths will be open on the twin spans of the Delaware Memorial Bridge this holiday, with traffic for Wednesday through Sunday expected to hit 320,000 vehicles, up from 316,000 last year.
Traffic is expected to be heaviest from 3 to 8 p.m. today, DiStefano cautioned.
States all along the Atlantic Coast now maintain websites that offer real-time maps with highways color-coded by current congestion levels. DelDOT's map page is at www.del dot.gov/traffic/map.ejs. PennDOT operates a travel advisory at www.511pa.com. Maryland's version is at www.traffic.md.gov.
In addition, the multi-state I-95 Corridor Coalition maintains an elaborate trip-planning and congestion-monitoring site at www.i95travelinfo.net.
The coalition service allows travelers to get estimates of current travel times and locate bottlenecks at any point along I-95 and nearby interstates between Florida and Maine. By Tuesday afternoon, the Newark-area portion of the coalition's map was locked in a state of perpetual red and purple, codes for heavy and stop-and-go traffic.
Thanksgiving holiday travelers caught some breaks Wednesday as Delaware moved to uncork a potentially historic bottleneck by waiving tolls on its turnpike, and a much-publicized protest at the nation's airports appeared to have fizzled.
The decision to suspend collection of northbound Delaware Turnpike tolls between 3:15 p.m. and 11 p.m. Wednesday came after traffic backed up nearly six miles onto Maryland's John F. Kennedy Memorial Highway. Though the toll plaza at Newark is a well-known bottleneck where hourlong delays are not unusual, it was the first time in at least 15 years the state has waived collections.
The delays were far more severe Wednesday for auto travelers heading through Delaware – at least until the tolls were waived. Shortly before 3 p.m., the Maryland Transportation Authority estimated the delay at the toll plaza at 30 minutes.
In the days leading up to the holiday, transportation officials in the two states had issued public warnings that construction at the toll plaza could result in a traffic jam of historic proportions – perhaps stretching a far back as the Susquehanna River – because of a construction project that has closed three of the nine northbound toll lanes.
The public warnings may have had their intended effect. Teri Moss, a spokeswoman for the Maryland toll authority, said the vehicle count at the Kennedy Highway toll plaza leading to Delaware was 3,000 between 4 p.m. and 5 p.m. Wednesday – compared with 4,200 the same time a year ago. She said that could indicate many travelers changed their routes or travel times.
Moss said that after Delaware waived the tolls, the backups into Maryland eased considerably. By late afternoon, a traffic camera on I-95 at Elkton, which had earlier captured a slow-moving backup, showed that traffic was heavy but flowing freely.
Michael Williams, a spokesman for the Delaware transportation department, said travelers shouldn't necessarily expect that the state will be as generous with southbound travelers this weekend.
The traffic conditions affecting the northbound lanes Wednesday were "certainly exceptional," he said.
"We've never had lane closures that couldn't be opened before a major holiday," he said, adding that it was the first time in the 15 years he's been with the agency that tolls were waived.
REHOBOTH BEACH -- Political opposition grew on Wednesday to a proposed 16-mile bypass of U.S. 113 in Sussex County, threatening the future of the project.
Three state lawmakers met privately with Transportation Secretary Carolann Wicks in Rehoboth Beach in an effort to stop the current plan.
"There's no support for the southern end of the route," said Sen. George Bunting Jr., D-Bethany Beach, referring to residents of Dagsboro, Frankford and Selbyville. "I don't know how there can be a much stronger signal than that."
There's not much support for the northern route, either. Several legislators, including those who attended the meeting, have expressed outrage that the state has been paying a group of developers led by Robert Tunnell Jr. $50,000 a month since 2008 to reserve land for the project near where Del. 24 intersects U.S. 113.
The state is also paying a developer at the Dagsboro end of the route $10,000 a month not to build.
The News Journal reported on Sunday that the deals are costing taxpayers $721,000 a year, ostensibly to prevent the developers from launching new housing complexes during the worst housing market in Sussex County's history.
"My personal opinion is it [the project] costs too much money," said Sen. Robert Venables Sr., D-Laurel, who co-chaired the bond bill committee but did not attend the meeting Wednesday. The proposed eastern bypass does not make sense, he said, because of the need for three bridges, including a span twice as long as the new bridge over the Indian River Inlet. That project has been plagued with problems.
About six years ago, a study group began investigating the feasibility of a U.S. 113 relief route to direct traffic around Millsboro, where the highway has the highest fatality rate of any state highway. Many accidents have occurred at the numerous intersections along the roadway. Traffic on the overburdened road is primarily regulated with stop signs and yield signs.
Traffic in the rural area has increased steadily as vacationers from more populous areas have jammed roads leading to the state's beach towns.
REHOBOTH BEACH -- Political opposition grew on Wednesday to a proposed 16-mile bypass of U.S. 113 in Sussex County, threatening the future of the project.
Three state lawmakers met privately with Transportation Secretary Carolann Wicks in Rehoboth Beach in an effort to stop the current plan.
"There's no support for the southern end of the route," said Sen. George Bunting Jr., D-Bethany Beach, referring to residents of Dagsboro, Frankford and Selbyville. "I don't know how there can be a much stronger signal than that."
There's not much support for the northern route, either. Several legislators, including those who attended the meeting, have expressed outrage that the state has been paying a group of developers led by Robert Tunnell Jr. $50,000 a month since 2008 to reserve land for the project near where Del. 24 intersects U.S. 113.
The state is also paying a developer at the Dagsboro end of the route $10,000 a month not to build.
The News Journal reported on Sunday that the deals are costing taxpayers $721,000 a year, ostensibly to prevent the developers from launching new housing complexes during the worst housing market in Sussex County's history.
"My personal opinion is it [the project] costs too much money," said Sen. Robert Venables Sr., D-Laurel, who co-chaired the bond bill committee but did not attend the meeting Wednesday. The proposed eastern bypass does not make sense, he said, because of the need for three bridges, including a span twice as long as the new bridge over the Indian River Inlet. That project has been plagued with problems.
About six years ago, a study group began investigating the feasibility of a U.S. 113 relief route to direct traffic around Millsboro, where the highway has the highest fatality rate of any state highway. Many accidents have occurred at the numerous intersections along the roadway. Traffic on the overburdened road is primarily regulated with stop signs and yield signs.
Traffic in the rural area has increased steadily as vacationers from more populous areas have jammed roads leading to the state's beach towns.
DelDOT decided in April that the route proposed for a bypass would take traffic to the east of Millsboro, Dagsboro and Frankford. The crescent-shaped highway, known variously as the blue route and Millsboro-South Area, is estimated to affect 1,298 acres. The project needs to be approved by the Federal Highway Administration. Wicks has said the earliest that approval could come would be 2012. It is expected to cost between $687 million and $839 million.
Sen. Harris McDowell, R-Wilmington North, said the residents of Sussex County presented strong arguments when they came before the bond bill committee last spring to oppose the bypass project.
"I thought they made a very good case," he said.
As the meeting with Bunting broke up on Wednesday, Rep. John Atkins, D-Millsboro, and Rep. Gerald Hocker, R-Ocean View, said they asked Wicks to focus first on the Millsboro problem by moving the route north through land already owned by the state, eliminating the need for access to the Tunnell project.
Atkins said he suggested that the route go farther north before rejoining U.S. 113 on state-owned land near Sussex Central High School and the Stockley Center.
"John's idea is the best solution I've heard so far," Bunting said of Atkins' proposal. "I think we brought some things to light."
Wicks said the legislators outlined their objections to the alignment and DelDOT will continue "to work on their concerns and issues." She was accompanied by the recently-named deputy transportation secretary, Cleon Cauley Sr., who is a land-use lawyer.
Gov. Jack Markell and Wicks on Monday announced they would investigate the deals in response to outrage from citizens and legislators.
Markell appointed his chief of staff, Tom McGonigle, to conduct a "thorough review" of the two agreements.
The review will examine the process for making agreements in advance of highway construction. The agency has no formal policy defining or governing such agreements, according to Frederick Schranck, deputy attorney general assigned to DelDOT.
Bunting said Wednesday he is glad Markell has called for the investigation.
The process for acquiring land in advance of highway construction "should be more open," Bunting said.
The legislators were "the last in line" to be told, he said. "The public should know about it."
Angry citizens are contacting local lawmakers to request the project not be funded. Venables said he plans to meet with a group of concerned residents this week.
"I just doubt DelDOT's ability to build three new bridges, including a new span across the Indian River," said Carrie Bennett of Frankford.
Another holiday, another traffic nightmare.
That's the warning Delaware travel authorities are sending to Christmas drivers, who could find themselves stuck in the same kinds of backups that made Thanksgiving a headache for hundreds of thousands of people.
The I-95 toll plaza near Newark is still undergoing reconstruction, so there are fewer travel lanes to handle the crush of holiday traffic, which AAA Mid-Atlantic predicts will be greater than last year.
The Delaware Department of Transportation said this week the delays "could stretch for miles and take hours to clear," the same wording the agency used in its pre-Thanksgiving message.
Combined with some of the region's highest per-mile toll rates, the congestion in Delaware angers people like Greg Cohen, president of the American Highway Users Alliance, a nonprofit group based in Washington, D.C., that pushes for safe and uncongested highways.
"It's still frustrating for people from out of state to pay these tolls year after year and then sit in traffic year after year," Cohen said.
At Thanksgiving, the crush of traffic led to 10-mile backups. On the Wednesday before the holiday, DelDOT waived the tolls for about 21,000 northbound drivers stalled by an overturned tractor-trailer, costing the state about $86,000 in lost income.
DelDOT should consider waiving its tolls again if traffic piles up for Christmas travelers, Cohen said.
"If you're charging people a toll, you should provide a guaranteed level of service," Cohen said. "If you can't do that, you should waive the toll. It's a lot of money, but it would be a nice Christmas present for a lot of people."
DelDOT isn't inclined to do that again, an official told the Delaware Economic and Financial Advisory Council on Friday.
"It was an emergency situation," said Brian Motyl, administrator of DelDOT's Transportation Trust Fund, which pays for road projects statewide. But "we have to be careful when we do that because it is a revenue source."
The Thanksgiving jam could have been worse, DelDOT Secretary Carolann Wicks said in a statement this week.
Drivers heeded the agency's dire warnings and apparently found alternative routes, she said. Traffic through the toll plaza was down nearly 10 percent, or almost 69,000 vehicles, from last year.
Cohen was unmoved.
"In the spirit of the season, I don't want to be mean about it, but that's small comfort for people who want to take the most direct route to their destination," Cohen said.
DelDOT said the toll plaza reconstruction project will help alleviate the kind of congestion it has been causing lately.
Once finished, the plaza will have two high-speed E-ZPass lanes and seven cash lanes in each direction. Also, the plaza will get wider northbound approach lanes, new signs and pavement markings, better lighting and an overhead passage for toll collectors.
The $32 million project is funded by the federal stimulus program, known as the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.
"Perhaps when all the pain of the reconstruction is over, we'll all be cheering Delaware," Cohen said.
AAA Mid-Atlantic predicts more than 25,000 Delawareans will travel at least 50 miles from home during the Christmas season, an increase of 3.4 percent from last year, said spokesman Jim Lardear.
"You can figure most of those people will be on I-95," he said.
Nationwide, 92.3 million Americans are expected to travel between Dec. 23 and Jan. 2, an increase of 3.1 percent from last year, AAA reported.
Nearly all of those travelers -- 94 percent in Delaware, 93 percent nationwide -- are expected to go by car.
AAA has predicted increases in holiday travel all year, which is an indicator of an improving economy, Lardear said.
Drivers may be frustrated by a recent spike in gas prices -- the average is now $3.11 a gallon in Delaware, up from $2.55 last year -- but they're keeping their travel plans intact, he said.
Delaware has a bad reputation among many out-of-state travelers because of its congestion and high toll, Cohen said. Delaware's charge of $4 each way for passenger vehicles is one of the highest per-mile tolls on I-95, which stretches 1,830 miles between Maine and Florida.
There are no tolls on I-95 south of Baltimore all the way to Miami. When the federal government banned tolls on interstate highways in 1956, Delaware and other northeastern states were exempted because they already had tolls on the roads, Cohen said.
"But still, it isn't very nice to take advantage of people," he said.
DelDOT collected $117.2 million in I-95 tolls last year. They money makes up about 28 percent of the state's Transportation Trust Fund, which pays for road projects statewide.
"Most of the locals know to avoid that interchange," Lardear said. But out-of-state travelers "don't know the way around it, so they get stuck in it."
Alternate routes like U.S. 40, U.S. 1 and U.S. 301 aren't designed to handle the 73,000 vehicles that pass through the toll plaza daily, let alone the 130,000 vehicles typical for a peak travel day, Lardear said.
Cohen said he knows the local roads that will take him around the toll plaza and past a doughnut shop or a diner with good milkshakes.
"It's not good for my waistline, but I'd rather stop there because I'd rather not pay the toll," he said.
DelDOT said the toll plaza reconstruction project will help alleviate the kind of congestion it has been causing lately.
Once finished, the plaza will have two high-speed E-ZPass lanes and seven cash lanes in each direction. Also, the plaza will get wider northbound approach lanes, new signs and pavement markings, better lighting and an overhead passage for toll collectors.
If they do that, then I feel it would only be necessary to do that for the Delaware Memorial Bridge, but in the free direction at the border.
DelDOT said the toll plaza reconstruction project will help alleviate the kind of congestion it has been causing lately.
Once finished, the plaza will have two high-speed E-ZPass lanes and seven cash lanes in each direction. Also, the plaza will get wider northbound approach lanes, new signs and pavement markings, better lighting and an overhead passage for toll collectors.
I don't think that will be helpful enough. The best solution here, if not implementing 100% open road tolling, is at least to go to one-way tolling. (Southbound to complement the NB toll at the Susquehanna.) That gives you several more booths in the tolled direction and no more backups in the open direction.
The $150 million Indian River Inlet bridge has been delayed for the second time in recent months and is now not scheduled to open until December.
The latest trouble for the 2,600-foot span centers on massive, hanging frames that will be used in molding each of the over-water segments of the structure...
...Contractor Skanska USA has hoisted one of the frames to a point close to its starting position near the bridge's north tower. A second will be positioned on the south side in several weeks, said Geoff Sundstrom, DelDOT deputy public-relations director.
Months were lost, however, after workers discovered that a key pair of 200-ton metal frames needed extensive reinforcement and modification before they can be used to mold the 24-foot, 400-ton sections of reinforced concrete that will support the roadway.
Construction is set to begin next week on a new bridge over Del. 1 into Christiana Mall.
Mumford & Miller, a Middletown-based contractor, has been awarded the $12.2 million contract to build the bridge, the Delaware Department of Transportation announced Monday.
The project is scheduled to start Monday and be completed within 259 days, DelDOT said.
The work will require nighttime road closures for now, said DelDOT spokesman Bob King. As the project nears completion, daytime closures will be needed for short periods, he said.
"If you're talking about nighttime travel, there will be a lane or two closed," he said. "During the day, there won't be many closures."
The project involves construction of the new bridge about a tenth of a mile south of the existing bridge. The new bridge will tie in to the mall's "ring road."
The bridge project is part of the much larger redesign of the interchange at I-95 and Del. 1, which has become increasingly congested during rush hour and holidays.
High-speed ramps will be built to connect Del. 1 northbound with I-95 northbound and to connect I-95 southbound with Del. 1 southbound.
The bridge over Del. 1 must move south to make space for the elevation and slope of the connection ramps, King said.
Construction of those ramps is expected to begin later this year, DelDOT said. Bids for the contract are scheduled to be opened next month.
The ramps are the final piece of DelDOT's I-95 Improvement Program, which has cost about $135 million so far. That project, which began in the late 1990s, involved:
-Building an interchange at the Churchmans Road and Del. 7 intersection.
-Rebuilding the Churchmans Road bridge over I-95.
-Rehabilitating the ramps at I-95 and Del. 896.
-Adding a fifth lane along I-95 both northbound and southbound near Christiana Mall and Del. 141.
-Building high-speed E-ZPass lanes at the I-95 toll plaza in Newark, which is expected to be finished this summer.
Prodded by Gov. Jack Markell's threat to kill the U.S. 113 project south of Milford, Sussex lawmakers have tentatively agreed to support a scaled-back highway expansion plan that would partially bypass Millsboro but keep improvements to the north and south on the existing alignment.
The consensus approach -- not put to a vote -- could include a two- or four-lane route that would connect U.S. 113 near Sussex Central High School and the Stockley Center to Del. 24 near Mountaire's poultry processing plant, east of Millsboro.
Legislators who attended a meeting on the project at DelDOT's Georgetown offices Wednesday said the connector would divert some east-west traffic and poultry trucks around Millsboro, reducing pressure for a far more costly and expansive highway relocation in that area.
DelDOT has spent about $14 million exploring an elaborate series of options along a 40-mile corridor between Milford and the Maryland line. After legislators began opposing those alternatives in the Millsboro area, Markell late last month threatened to pull the plug, saying lawmakers were wavering in their support of the project.
EWARK -- After five months of construction along Elkton Road, the state transportation department this week announced the work on roughly two miles between Gravenor Lane and Delaware Avenue is expected to be completed by September of 2012.
To make room for bike lanes, the road will be trimmed to one lane of traffic in each direction with a left-turn lane on each side, DelDOT officials said at an informational session.
Mary Whistler, who lives in the Devon neighborhood, said although bike lanes will make the area safer for cyclists, reducing traffic to one lane in each direction will likely worsen traffic on Elkton Road and adjacent streets.
"I don't think, in this day and age, you take two lanes and turn them into one -- not when people are gonna start driving on parallel streets to stay away from it," Whistler said.
"Elkton Road is bad enough to begin with -- why make it smaller?" she asked.
DelDOT engineers took into account traffic flow and growth, saying one lane of traffic and a turn lane in each direction would be enough.
"That was something we looked at very hard and detailed in the planning process," said Mark Tudor, a DelDOT engineer.
Construction is set to be done in four phases, which may run concurrently. The project is still in phase one, which is expected to run through fall 2011, DelDOT officials said.
In the initial phase of development, crews are mainly working in the eastbound lanes and adjacent streets.
Having to relocate utilities such as gas, water lines, storm and sanitary sewer lines, and inclement weather are factors DelDOT officials said could delay the project's completion -- although crews have not yet run into any significant setbacks.
"There haven't been too many days lost to weather, thank goodness," Gary Laing, a DelDOT spokesman, said Monday.
With this particular project, DelDOT officials said, they have worked to tailor their approach to accommodate various segments of the community while getting the job done quickly.
"We're really dealing with a range of constituents," Laing said, adding UD students, Newark residents and business owners -- generally -- have different sets of concerns about the project.
However, easy access to businesses along Elkton Road is an overarching issue, and one Laing said the agency deals with in nearly every project along arterial routes.
For area businesses, the construction has meant more customers grumbling about navigating orange traffic barriers and cracked pavement.
However, for the most part, they're supportive of the project.
"Overall, what they're doing, I think, is good for the community. A little bit of inconvenience is OK," said Abe Santos, owner of Re Ink Advantage on Elkton Road.
Santos gets a panoramic view of the road work from his shop windows. Around the corner from Santos at the Apna Bazaar, owner Rohit Patel said traffic and detours now will pay dividends as the community around the road continues to develop later.
"They're making improvements so, I mean, I don't have any complaints," Patel said. "It's going to improve the community area, down the road -- long term -- it's going to benefit us."
Hmmm... Is this north or south of Del. 4? My favorite route to avoid that absurd toll at the Delaware/Maryland line is (southbound) either Del. 273 west or Del. 896 north to Del. 4; Del. 4 west to Del. 2; Del. 2/Md. 279 back to 95.
(Northbound, I avoid the Susquehanna toll as well by using US 1, unless I'm in a hurry.)
Hmmm... Is this north or south of Del. 4? My favorite route to avoid that absurd toll at the Delaware/Maryland line is (southbound) either Del. 273 west or Del. 896 north to Del. 4; Del. 4 west to Del. 2; Del. 2/Md. 279 back to 95.Consider Chestnut Hill Rd. - not sure if it's faster, but I like the drive on a 2-lane better than the other major routes.
(Northbound, I avoid the Susquehanna toll as well by using US 1, unless I'm in a hurry.)
Temporary lane closures on Del. 1 begin this evening as the Delaware Department of Transportation starts a nearly nine-month project to construct a new bridge into the Christiana Mall.
DelDOT said last week lane closures would be mostly at night as the 259-day project gets under way.
Some daytime lane closures may be necessary for short periods, according to DelDOT.
The new bridge will be south of the current Del. 1 overpass and tie into the mall's "ring road."
DelDOT awarded the $12.2 million construction contract to Mumford & Miller, a Middletown-based contractor.
To date, DelDOT has spent $135 million since the late 1990s on improvements to the busy I-95 and Del. 1 interchange.
Other projects include building an interchange at Churchmans Road and Del. 7 and adding a fifth lane northbound and southbound on I-95.
Later this year, more backups are expected at the interchange as DelDOT begins a multiyear project to build high-speed "flyover" ramps to connect southbound I-95 with southbound Del. 1 and northbound Del. 1 with northbound I-95.
DelDOT officials said last August the ramp project could take several years and cost $191 million.
DelDOT has said the ramps will relieve the rush hour and weekend backups at the current interchange that are the source of aggravation for suburban commuters and mall shoppers.
TOP REVENUE-GENERATING OPTIONS
Raise Del. 1 weekday toll to $2, weekend toll to $3: $36.4 million
Raise all I-95 tolls by $1: $24.5 million
Charge toll for new Indian River Inlet bridge: $7.6 million
Raise Del. 1 commercial vehicle toll by $1: $4.5 million
Increase gas tax by 1 cent: $4.5 million
Estimated state road and transit budget shortfalls have swollen to nearly $1 billion for the next five years and $3.7 billion through 2023, according to an updated tally released late Tuesday by a panel seeking options for closing the gap.
In the first draft of a plan to deal with the growing money shortage, Transportation Trust Fund Task Force members listed possibilities that included hikes in tolls on Del. 1 and I-95, new fees for some types of driver's license renewals and motor vehicle transactions, higher penalties for insurance violations and a boost in billboard fees.
Those actions, however, would barely make a dent in the deficits, which ultimately will have to be settled by lawmakers and Gov. Jack Markell. The 10 largest revenue proposals, including some given little chance of approval, would generate only about $210 million annually.
"This is getting to look to me like it's unobtainable," said Sen. Robert L. Venables, D-Laurel, who co-chairs the Legislature's capital budget committee. He added later: "I don't think the General Assembly realizes what we're working on and how bad these figures are."
Other, more drastic steps that made the list of recommendations included new tolls on Del. 1 ramps that are currently free south of the Chesapeake & Delaware Canal and along the Del. 1 main line south of Milford, as well as higher fuel taxes and fees for transit services used by the disabled and elderly.
Lawmakers formed the trust fund panel last year in response to warnings that DelDOT would run out of money as early as 2012 for projects financed only with state revenues. A report is due to the General Assembly and Markell by March 31.
"We're now down to the core programs, primarily," said outgoing DelDOT Secretary Carolann Wicks. "All we really have are federally funded projects like the U.S. 202 interchange, Route 54 -- they're all federally funded. We've already lost all of the state-only projects."
Markell's office released a cautious written statement late Tuesday after receiving a briefing on the draft list.
Tolling the free ramps from the SR 1 Bridge at South St. Georges (though I doubt they could get the law changed as to why those are free).
Many of things will never fly, such as adding tolls to an arterial highway. But others, like the toll increases and EZPass account maintenance fees probably will.
Speed cameras, eh? Those would certainly cement my decision to take I-95 rather than go up the Eastern Shore in the future.
Northbound Del. 1 near Christiana Mall will be closed for eight hours tonight to allow for overhead sign removal, DelDOT reports.
The work is part of an interchange project to improve the connection with I-95.
The northbound lanes will be closed from 9 tonight until 5 a.m. Thursday.
Northbound traffic will be detoured onto Del. 273 at exit 162, west to I-95 and north to the Del. 1 exit (4A).
The southbound lanes were closed for the work on Tuesday night.
Tolls on the Delaware Memorial Bridge would rise by a $1 for passenger cars and trucks with a similar per-axle increase for commercial vehicles under a proposal to avert a budget crisis at the bridge authority.
The rate hike would help pay for a variety of projects, Salmon said, including $29 million in improvements to I-295, $28 million for painting and structural work on the bridge, $10 million for upgrades at toll collection stations, $9 million for inspection of bridge cables and suspension ropes and $4.3 million to replace the electronic signage system that lets motorists know when lanes on the bridge are closed.
Bridge authority plans $1 toll hike on Delaware Memorial (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110427/NEWS02/104270350/-1/7daysarchives/Bridge-authority-plans-1-toll-hike-Delaware-Memorial)Hopefully incentive to get more traffic off this bridge on summer weekends and onto US 322.QuoteTolls on the Delaware Memorial Bridge would rise by a $1 for passenger cars and trucks with a similar per-axle increase for commercial vehicles under a proposal to avert a budget crisis at the bridge authority.QuoteThe rate hike would help pay for a variety of projects, Salmon said, including $29 million in improvements to I-295, $28 million for painting and structural work on the bridge, $10 million for upgrades at toll collection stations, $9 million for inspection of bridge cables and suspension ropes and $4.3 million to replace the electronic signage system that lets motorists know when lanes on the bridge are closed.
DelDOT expects the cable-supported north and south sections of the bridge deck to meet in the middle by October, with the roadway expected to be opened to traffic in December, about eight months past the original plan.
Markell also gave the Sussex County legislators an ultimatum, telling them to reach a consensus by the end of the legislative session on U.S. 113 improvements or risk having the money spent elsewhere in the state. All planning on the U.S. 113 project, on which $14 million already has been spent, was stopped.
Now, the 12 Sussex lawmakers agree unanimously that they won't support the current bypass plan, according to Rep. Pete Schwartzkopf, D-Rehoboth Beach. The House majority leader said Thursday he had drafted a letter outlining a new proposal for Markell. The delegation said it wants all improvements to U.S. 113 from Milford to Selbyville to be made on the highway's current alignment, with a short bypass diverting traffic east of the town of Millsboro, Schwartzkopf said.
The lawmakers support routing the bypass at Millsboro through as much state land as possible, such as the Stockley Center north of Millsboro, Schwartzkopf said.
Possible locations for Riverfront span to be discussed
A Wilmington Riverfront transportation coalition will take plans for a new bridge over the Christina River to the public from 5 to 7 p.m. next Monday at the Center on the Riverfront.
The session, at 815 Justison St., will include possible locations for the new span, which will expand links to several routes, including I-95, I-495, U.S. 13 and local roads.
The Delaware Department of Transportation's long-range plans call for a bridge that would connect the Riverfront area just south of The Shipyard (formerly the Shipyard Shops) with U.S. 13 south of the South Walnut Street and South Market Street split.
Current estimates peg the cost at about $45 million, including $33.4 million for construction and $8.6 million for right-of-way purchases, possibly beginning as early as next year. Construction is unlikely to begin before 2014, however, with the Federal Highway Administration picking up 80 percent of the cost of land and construction.
Wilmington Initiatives, a group that includes the city of Wilmington, the Wilmington Metropolitan Planning Organization and state transportation agencies, will sponsor the session.
Information will be available on several other projects, ranging from sidewalk and lighting improvements to streetscape and beautification efforts. Most are intended to promote a balance of transportation services, including mass transit, pedestrian, bicycle, rail and motor vehicle.
Although DelDOT has warned that the state's Transportation Trust Fund is short of cash, the Markell administration's proposed Bond Bill for the fiscal year that begins July 1 sets aside $8.6 million to begin land purchases.
The Delaware River and Bay Authority has approved a $1 increase to the toll at the Delaware Memorial Bridge, a spokesman said.
The toll is currently $3. The new $4 rate goes into effect July 1, said DRBA spokesman Jim Salmon.
The $4 toll will apply to passenger vehicles; a $1 per axle increase was also approved for commercial vehicles.
The increases are expected to raise an additional $22 million in revenue annually -- money that will be used for capital improvements at the bridge and the Cape May-Lewes Ferry.
The money raised will be used for a variety of projects -- not just at the bridge. Among them are I-295 highway upgrades that are expected to cost $29 million and dock work and improvements to passenger loading systems at the Cape May-Lewes Ferry that are expected to cost $15 million.
Tolls to go up on Delaware Memorial Bridge (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110517/NEWS/110517026/Tolls-go-up-Delaware-Memorial-Bridge?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Home)QuoteThe Delaware River and Bay Authority has approved a $1 increase to the toll at the Delaware Memorial Bridge, a spokesman said.
The toll is currently $3. The new $4 rate goes into effect July 1, said DRBA spokesman Jim Salmon.
The $4 toll will apply to passenger vehicles; a $1 per axle increase was also approved for commercial vehicles.
NEW CASTLE – New Jersey's E-ZPass service center is taking over management of accounts issued by the Delaware River and Bay Authority.
The authority operates the Delaware Memorial Bridge, which connects New Jersey and Delaware near Wilmington.
It has 43,000 E-ZPass accounts.
The DRBA says it will save $750,000 per year by having the New Jersey operation handle its accounts.
Customers will also save. Their monthly membership fee will be $1 instead of the current $1.50 and they won't have to pay to buy transponders any more. They'll also benefit from additional discount plans.
Southbound I-495 in Claymont will be reduced to one lane for months starting next week as crews peform maintenance on a bridge over the highway, officials announced today.
Both southbound lanes will be closed between the Naamans Road and Philadelphia Pike exits from 9 p.m. Wednesday until 5 a.m. Thursday to allow for placement of a barrier wall to protect workers. Detours will be posted.
One lane of the highway will then reopen.
Contractors will be working behind the barrier wall during the daytime, according to a statement from the Delaware Department of Transportation.
The project also includes rehabilitation of the Naamans Road bridge over I-95.
The northbound and southbound right lanes of I-95 will be closed from 9 p.m. Thursday until 5 a.m. June 17 to allow for placement of barrier walls beneath the Naamans bridge. Then the right shoulders will remain closed around-the-clock until the work is completed in mid-September 2012.
Motorists on Del. 1 will get better access to Del. 12 at Frederica this week, but a new overpass under construction won't be opening until early July.
Starting Monday, southbound motorists on Del. 1 will be allowed to exit onto Del. 12 (Frederica Road) at the north end of the town. And drivers on Del. 12 will be able to enter the southbound lanes of Del. 1 at the north end of the town, said Michael Williams of the state transportation department.
But access to and from northbound Del. 1 will continue to be from Frederica Road at the south end of the town until the overpass is opened.
Went along I-95 southbound through Delaware today and photographed some new signs going up between the service plaza and the Newark tolls. The Newark toll plaza is nearing completion and I must say, it doesn't look half bad...
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5312/5858596886_1d91a48c32_z.jpg)
A new overpass on Del. 1 at Frederica will be open to traffic on Tuesday, officials announced today.
The overpass, to open by the end of the day, will allow traffic entering and exiting the northbound lanes to cross over the highway to connect with Del. 12 at the north end of town.
Ramps for southbound access were opened earlier this week, following more than a year of construction. The project eliminated a stop-sign controlled median crossing that was the scene of numerous accidents, some fatal.
The Delaware Department of Transportation has other overpasses planned for Del. 1, with some awaiting funding:
- Del. 30 (Wilkins Road/Cedar Neck Road). Construction will begin in spring 2012.
- At south end of Frederica, junction with Frederica, Tub Mill Pond and Milford Neck roads. Construction might begin in fall 2013.
- At Little Heaven, junction with Bowers Beach and Clapham roads. Construction could begin late summer or early fall of 2014.
- At Milford, junction with Northeast Front Street and New Wharf Road. Construction might begin in fall 2015.
- Thompsonville Road south of Frederica. Construction could begin late summer or early fall 2015.
- Barratts Chapel Road north of Frederica. Construction and right-of-way plans are currently not funded. No design work is being planned.
An overpass at Del. 9 at the south end of Dover was completed in November 2009.
Went along I-95 southbound through Delaware today and photographed some new signs going up between the service plaza and the Newark tolls. The Newark toll plaza is nearing completion and I must say, it doesn't look half bad...
1. Del. 1 at I-95: Christiana Mall bridge relocation, $12.2 million, through November 2012.
2. I-95 Newark toll plaza: $30 million, could open all lanes by July Fourth weekend.
3. Elkton Road: Casho Mill to Delaware Avenue, $10.5 million, through September 2012.
4. Kirkwood Highway: Del. 7 to Del. 100 at east end of Elsmere, $2.1 million, repair/repaving through mid-November.
5. Del. 141 Newport Bridge: 1-95 at Newport, $14.8 million, through summer 2014.
6. Del. 1: Barkers Landing (St. Jones River south of Dover Air Force Base) to Frederica, repairs/repaving.
7. Indian River Inlet Bridge: $150 million, lane restrictions. Opens in December.
8. Del. 54: West of Fenwick Island, $10 million, widening and improvements through May 2012.
Looks like we have some progress at the Newark Toll plaza. Here's what I saw when I was through that area just now.
I didn't pass through the toll plaza (haven't in years), and I was taking my usual diversion route: MD 279/DE 2, Otts Chapel Road, Welsh Tract Road, DE 896. So I crossed over 95 twice on both Otts Chapel and Welsh Tract. There were signs on I-95 saying "new traffic pattern (today's date)"
Looks like we have some progress at the Newark Toll plaza. Here's what I saw when I was through that area just now.
I didn't pass through the toll plaza (haven't in years), and I was taking my usual diversion route: MD 279/DE 2, Otts Chapel Road, Welsh Tract Road, DE 896. So I crossed over 95 twice on both Otts Chapel and Welsh Tract. There were signs on I-95 saying "new traffic pattern (today's date)"
Southbound was not done yet. Looked like the left lane was going through the high-speed E-ZPass (but not at high speed yet), the center two were going to the booths (the left of 2 lanes signed for E-ZPass Only), and the right lane is still exit-only at DE 896/Exit 1. Traffic was rather heavy in the one cash approach lane, and looked like it was moving at medium speed through the high-speed lane.
Some good news for the road-weary this holiday weekend -- the I-95 toll plaza in Newark, which has been a major chokepoint, will be easing its grip on traffic.
As of Monday, the highway-speed E-ZPass lanes -- where electronic transponders are read without vehicles having to slow down or drive through a traditional tollbooth -- are completed and open for business, said Delaware Department of Transportation spokesman Mike Williams, with two lanes on the northbound side and two lanes on the southbound side.
The expectation is that the lanes will ease congestion at the tolls, which had gotten worse over the past year as construction shut down conventional toll lanes to make way for the new E-ZPass lanes.
"It is not going to magically make backups or delays go away," said Williams, adding that during unusually high-volume times like holiday weekends, that would be next to impossible. But he said the new lanes are a major change and drivers should notice a much more "comfortable" ride through the plaza.
Looks like we have some progress at the Newark Toll plaza. Here's what I saw when I was through that area just now.
I didn't pass through the toll plaza (haven't in years), and I was taking my usual diversion route: MD 279/DE 2, Otts Chapel Road, Welsh Tract Road, DE 896. So I crossed over 95 twice on both Otts Chapel and Welsh Tract. There were signs on I-95 saying "new traffic pattern (today's date)"
Is that faster than Chestnut Hill Rd.? Or about the same?
Looks like we have some progress at the Newark Toll plaza. Here's what I saw when I was through that area just now.
I didn't pass through the toll plaza (haven't in years), and I was taking my usual diversion route: MD 279/DE 2, Otts Chapel Road, Welsh Tract Road, DE 896. So I crossed over 95 twice on both Otts Chapel and Welsh Tract. There were signs on I-95 saying "new traffic pattern (today's date)"
Is that faster than Chestnut Hill Rd.? Or about the same?
Was just going to ask the same thing. Also, is it just me, or are more and more people catching on to skirting the MD/DE state line toll? Last time I skirted it I made the mistake of going all the way up to DE-4 and sat in a 10-15 minute queue (of course, I could sit in that same queue on I-95 and pay $4, too!). That WAS Memorial Day weekend though, if I recall...
Looks like we have some progress at the Newark Toll plaza. Here's what I saw when I was through that area just now.
I didn't pass through the toll plaza (haven't in years), and I was taking my usual diversion route: MD 279/DE 2, Otts Chapel Road, Welsh Tract Road, DE 896. So I crossed over 95 twice on both Otts Chapel and Welsh Tract. There were signs on I-95 saying "new traffic pattern (today's date)"
Is that faster than Chestnut Hill Rd.? Or about the same?
Looks like we have some progress at the Newark Toll plaza. Here's what I saw when I was through that area just now.
I didn't pass through the toll plaza (haven't in years), and I was taking my usual diversion route: MD 279/DE 2, Otts Chapel Road, Welsh Tract Road, DE 896. So I crossed over 95 twice on both Otts Chapel and Welsh Tract. There were signs on I-95 saying "new traffic pattern (today's date)"
Is that faster than Chestnut Hill Rd.? Or about the same?
Was just going to ask the same thing. Also, is it just me, or are more and more people catching on to skirting the MD/DE state line toll? Last time I skirted it I made the mistake of going all the way up to DE-4 and sat in a 10-15 minute queue (of course, I could sit in that same queue on I-95 and pay $4, too!). That WAS Memorial Day weekend though, if I recall...
This past weekend, I was able to get down to Frederica, and check out SR-1's newest interchange, which opened June 28, 2011.
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A Maryland-based company won a $111.9 million contract Wednesday to rebuild the always busy and often snarled I-95/Del. 1 interchange, undercutting DelDOT's estimate by nearly $34 million and shaving 14 months off the state's construction schedule.
Jessup-based Cherry Hill Construction Inc.'s bid was about 23.2 percent lower than the nearly $145.7 million that DelDOT expected to pay for the sprawling, multi-ramp and multi-overpass design.
Revamped I-95 toll plaza gets official rededication (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110726/NEWS02/107260335/-1/7daysarchives/Revamped-95-toll-plaza-gets-official-rededication)
Contract cuts cost, time of I-95 project (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110707/NEWS02/107070340/-1/7daysarchives/Contract-cuts-cost-time-95-project)QuoteA Maryland-based company won a $111.9 million contract Wednesday to rebuild the always busy and often snarled I-95/Del. 1 interchange, undercutting DelDOT's estimate by nearly $34 million and shaving 14 months off the state's construction schedule.
Jessup-based Cherry Hill Construction Inc.'s bid was about 23.2 percent lower than the nearly $145.7 million that DelDOT expected to pay for the sprawling, multi-ramp and multi-overpass design.
Revamped I-95 toll plaza gets official rededication (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110726/NEWS02/107260335/-1/7daysarchives/Revamped-95-toll-plaza-gets-official-rededication)
The pictures PennDOTFan posted give a sense for where the express carriageway begins on the southbound side. Anyone know where it begins going north?
The Delaware Department of Transportation said Monday that the proposed Governor's Square III Shopping Center can be built without having to build a multimillion-dollar overpass of Del. 7 over U.S. 40.
The move clears the way for New Castle County Council to vote on a rezoning request by developer DelleDonne & Associates that would allow the shopping center to be built. The property is now zoned for office space.
DelDOT's conclusion, made as the agency announced it has completed its review of DelleDonne's traffic-impact study, marks a reversal of the agency's comments in March, when it refused DelleDonne's request to waive the study.
At that time, DelDOT officials said huge improvements of the Del. 7 and U.S. 40 intersection might be needed to maintain required traffic-service levels. Monday, DelDOT said new data show that congestion at the intersection has actually dropped from 2009 to 2010.
The improvements include widening Del. 7 to four lanes from Newtown Road to a point north of Rivers End Drive; extending the southbound left-turn lanes at 7 and 40 to 725 feet; improving intersections and adding traffic lights along Del. 7; and sharing in the costs of any of the improvements performed by DelDOT.
The threshold for an intersection to be at "failed" status is for a vehicle to be delayed for 55 seconds at peak-evening driving times, Bhatt said. "The delay for a vehicle to get through routes 7 and 40 is now 53.6 seconds.
"The agency finds acceptable service levels can be maintained if the developer makes certain improvements in the corridor," DelDOT said in a statement.
The new Indian River Inlet Bridge moved a step closer to completion today.
Following final concrete formation for the north side of the bridge, workers removed the steel structure used for its construction, the Delaware Department of Transportation announced.
Removal of the 300-ton structure -- called a form traveler -- also means boaters will now have more clearance for traveling beneath the new bridge.
DelDOT said the channel was closed in cooperation with the Coast Guard between 2 a.m. and 8 a.m. today while the form traveler was lowered onto a barge. Designed specifically for this project, the form traveler will be taken to Virginia and recycled.
A similar structure remains on the south side of the bridge, where four sections remain to be built.
The final concrete pour is expected in late October or early November, with completion of the $150 million bridge planned in December.
The cable-supported span will carry Del. 1 across the inlet, replacing an older, lower bridge that has been plagued by underwater erosion.
Traffic on Del. 1 remains restricted to one lane in each direction during construction.
I have never considered adding a traffic light to be an "improvement"...
The Department of Transportation has announced Middletown-based Mumford & Miller Concrete Inc. has received the winning bid for the I-95 and U.S. 202 reconstruction project.
The construction, slated to begin in November and be completed by fall 2014, will have a price tag of $27,607,113.22, the lowest of five bids received.
DelDOT says the project will include the removal of the I-95 southbound ramp to the U.S. 202 loop ramp and relocating the ramp to become a directional ramp that would tie into U.S. 202 with a new traffic signal.
The project will address a vertical clearance by lowering I-95 southbound under U.S. 202, bridge rehabilitations, widening the ramp from I-95 to U.S. 202 northbound from one to two lanes and extending the two-lane ramp from U.S. 202 to I-95 southbound further down I-95.
US 202 around there has undergone a lot of changes over the last few years. In 2006 I took some pictures of what looked like a new road layout only to find the Augustine Cut Off exit has since been removed. Will the I-95/US 202 ramp be the last work to take place?
This project eliminates Exit 8A of Interstate 95 southbound to make way for a new wider ramp from U.S. 202 south onto I-95 south.
(https://www.aaroads.com/delaware/delaware050/i-095_sb_exit_008a_04.jpg)
Middletown company wins bid for I-95-U.S. 202 project (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20110927/NEWS/110927018/-1/7daysarchives/Middletown-company-wins-bid-95-U-S-202-project)QuoteThe Department of Transportation has announced Middletown-based Mumford & Miller Concrete Inc. has received the winning bid for the I-95 and U.S. 202 reconstruction project.
The construction, slated to begin in November and be completed by fall 2014, will have a price tag of $27,607,113.22, the lowest of five bids received.
DelDOT says the project will include the removal of the I-95 southbound ramp to the U.S. 202 loop ramp and relocating the ramp to become a directional ramp that would tie into U.S. 202 with a new traffic signal.
The project will address a vertical clearance by lowering I-95 southbound under U.S. 202, bridge rehabilitations, widening the ramp from I-95 to U.S. 202 northbound from one to two lanes and extending the two-lane ramp from U.S. 202 to I-95 southbound further down I-95.
The ramp from the Christiana Mall to northbound I-95 will close permanently Tuesday as part of an ongoing road project in the area, state officials announced today.
Instead, traffic will be directed to the ramp for northbound Del. 1 near JCPenny’s, and then be able to exit onto northbound I-95.
Delaware's sometimes notorious I-95 interchange at U.S. 202 will get a three-year, $27.6 million makeover starting next month, under a DelDOT plan that could include weekend-long closings of some ramps and even lanes along the interstate.
"The main reason for the work is to address backups that occur on northound 95 approaching U.S. 202," said project manager Mark Tudor. "The project will provide a two-lane ramp all the way, almost, to the north side of the Brandywine River Bridge.
Widening and improvements also are planned along the ramp between southbound 202 and the interstate, Tudor said, to ease friction and weaving as drivers merge into a single lane before moving onto I-95.
To make room for that work, the ramp from southbound I-95 to southbound Concord Pike will be relocated to the north side of the interchange, with a new traffic signal installed along northbound Concord Pike to allow vehicles to cross onto southbound lanes leading into Wilmington.
NEW CASTLE COUNTY
» Summit Bridge, U.S. 301/Del. 896: Lane closings in both directions through May 1.
» Delaware Memorial Bridge: Weekday closings of two to three southbound lanes through Dec. 16, excluding holidays.
» I-495: Southbound lane restriction between Exit 6 (Naamans Road) and Exit 5 (Philadelphia Pike), and at various times between Edgemoor Road and Christina River bridge.
» Del. 1 at Christiana Mall: Nighttime lane closings, excluding Sundays, through Nov. 22.
» Del. 141 viaduct around Del. 4: Various ramp and lane restrictions.
KENT COUNTY
» U.S. 13 between St. Jones River and Court Street, Court Street between U.S. 13 and Bay Road: Lane closings for repaving.
» U.S. 13 southbound between North State Street and Kings Highway: Nighttime lane closings for water-main installation.
SUSSEX COUNTY
» Del. 1 Indian River Inlet bridge: Speed restrictions, access detours.
» Front Street, Seaford: Nanticoke River bridge closed through Dec. 16.
As part of a $10 million project, workers are stabilizing and stiffening steel gusset plates, sandblasting the 600-foot span and painting it bright blue, according to the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which owns and operates the bridge. Work began in April and should end in December 2012.
Only two of Summit's four lanes have been open since the spring to reduce the amount of weight on the bridge at any one time, said Sarah M. Rivette, a spokeswoman for the corps in Philadelphia.
All four lanes should reopen Monday after contractors strengthen the span by replacing a 700-pound gusset plate below the deck at the bridge's northeast end. The slab of steel connects adjacent bridge beams and girders to trusses.
I don't know the history of that service area, but Hot Shoppes was the name of a big restaurant/cafeteria chain in the Washington area back in the 50s and 60s. Maybe it wasn't that the service area was called Hot Shoppes, but that Hot Shoppes had the food franchise there? Just a guess....
US 202 around there has undergone a lot of changes over the last few years. In 2006 I took some pictures of what looked like a new road layout only to find the Augustine Cut Off exit has since been removed. Will the I-95/US 202 ramp be the last work to take place?
(http://www.speedcam.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/us202.jpg)
Finally :clap: :clap: :clap:
New Indian River Inlet Bridge taking shape (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20100302/NEWS/100302036/1006/New+Indian+River+Inlet+Bridge+taking+shape)QuoteDelDOT's latest update on the project: "As of this week, all four footers of the bridge are complete. Eventually they will be put underground and not visible, however like the foundation of any structure they are key in giving the bridge its strength and long-term stability."QuoteThe new bridge design calls for a 2,600-foot-long bridge with a 900-foot span across the inlet. It will be supported by cables in a design similar to theRoth BridgeSR 1 Turnpike Bridge over the Chesapeake & Delaware Canal.QuoteThe current construction is the state's second try at a new bridge over the inlet. Problems with the first bridge approaches came to light in 2007, when fill dirt at the site began to shift and slip, creating a multimillion-dollar setback.
The contract was abandoned and re-advertised and the bridge re-designed. It is expected to be completed in spring 2011.
Drivers can visit the project Web site, www.irib.deldot.gov, to get traffic updates, view cameras or get more information on the construction
After years and millions of dollars, the new Indian River Inlet Bridge will open to traffic Jan. 20, state officials say.
Following a brief ribbon- cutting ceremony for invited officials, the transition will begin with the rerouting of southbound Del. 1 traffic from the existing bridge, followed by the rerouting of northbound traffic, according to the Delaware Department of Transportation.
The 2,600-foot-long structure will first carry one lane of traffic in each direction on the southbound side of the bridge. This pattern is expected to continue into the spring, while the contractor George & Lynch completes the roadway approaches on the northbound side of the bridge.
Officials say the new traffic pattern will consist of one lane in each direction through the spring, when all four lanes are expected to open.
Through April 2013, phase one of the $27.6-million project...
To help improve traffic flow, crews will widen the ramp from one lane to two, nearly to the north side of the Brandywine River bridge. They will also construct a 12-foot shoulder to the right and a six-foot shoulder to the left
Also during phase one, the ramp from southbound U.S. 202 to I-95 north will be extended to allow for better merging.
In the project's second year, contractors will lower the roadbed of I-95 southbound by three feet where it passes under U.S. 202. This should address a clearance problem -- the risk of large vehicles hitting girders supporting the overpass.
Work has begun in Bear on a project to widen a stretch of Del. 7 that's grown thick with apartment buildings and town home developments in recent years.
Crews will spend the next 20 months adding a lane in each direction to a mile-long section of the highway, known as Bear-Christiana Road, between Del. 273 and Newtown Road.
Sidewalks, bus stops and bike lanes also are planned, as well as a new traffic signal at the intersection with School Bell Road, according to the state Department of Transportation. Construction is expected to conclude in the winter of 2013.
After the work, the section of Bear-Christiana Road will match the corridor's four lanes between Newtown Road and U.S. 40 in the area of Governor's Square, said spokesman Bob King of DelDOT. Both widening projects were approved in 2000 as part of a 20-year plan for improvements along U.S. 40. When DelDOT hosted public workshops about the Newtown to Del. 273 widening in 2003 and 2004, officials anticipated that construction would have concluded by 2005.
Delays followed, in part because of funding shortages but also because traffic along the corridor didn't grow as much as projected -- a trend reflected statewide, according to transportation planners. The Wilmington Area Planning Council has found that few sections or intersections on the U.S. 40 corridor are considered "failing" at this time. Transit usage has grown considerably -- by 11 percent -- along the corridor, said agency planner Dan Blevins.
Plans for more developments in the area have been filed with New Castle County, so things could soon change. Traffic growth along the corridor was greatest in the area of the road widening.
I just found this postcard from US 13 at I-95 during the 1960's. Check out the old BGS:Very nice find! Check out the Esso sign and is that a gas price sign, looks like 26cpg.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retrolandusa/5794864559/in/photostream
Very nice find! Check out the Esso sign and is that a gas price sign, looks like 26cpg.I was thinking more about the "Toll" bannered I-95 sign, but the Esso sign is noteworthy too.
With all of the lanes now open on the Indian River Inlet Bridge, engineers turned on the lights Thursday night for the first time.
The blue LED lights illuminating the stay cables will be on each night. There are 76 low-wattage (55 watt) bulbs and 16 LED fixtures illuminating the outside faces of the pylons, according to the Delaware Department of Transporation, making for a total of 92 lights.
DelDOT says a blue lens was added to soften the lighting, reduce glare and minimize any impacts to migratory birds that can become disoriented in the more traditional bright white lights.
This is one of the first cable stay bridges to use LED lighting technology and will offer substantial energy cost savings for the bridge lighting, DelDOT says.
The last of the four lanes on the new Indian River Inlet Bridge opened this week to traffic, ending a multiyear project that involved numerous lane closures and shifting traffic patterns. The pedestrian walkway is scheduled to open by Friday.
The next phase of construction at Delaware’s most congested interchange soon will close the loop ramp from northbound Interstate 95 to northbound Del. 7 and temporarily alter exit patterns from the Christiana Mall.
Both changes make room for construction of elevated flyover ramps connecting Del. 1 and I-95 that ultimately will allow for smoother merging and less congestion along the corridor, according to the Delaware Department of Transportation.
Also starting July 16, officials will close the Christiana Mall exit near JCPenney until November to allow for construction on the ramp and its tie-in to Del. 7 — also part of the larger interchange project.
Around July 23, crews will reopen the exit to northbound I-95 from Mall Ring Road (near Nordstrom and the Park & Ride lot) after a year’s closure, officials said.
Construction on the interchange is expected to wrap up by the end of next year, DelDOT said.
Indian River bridge lights up (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20120525/NEWS15/305250068/New-Indian-River-Inlet-Bridge-lights-up)Not real good pics, but here it is.QuoteWith all of the lanes now open on the Indian River Inlet Bridge, engineers turned on the lights Thursday night for the first time.
The blue LED lights illuminating the stay cables will be on each night. There are 76 low-wattage (55 watt) bulbs and 16 LED fixtures illuminating the outside faces of the pylons, according to the Delaware Department of Transporation, making for a total of 92 lights.
DelDOT says a blue lens was added to soften the lighting, reduce glare and minimize any impacts to migratory birds that can become disoriented in the more traditional bright white lights.
This is one of the first cable stay bridges to use LED lighting technology and will offer substantial energy cost savings for the bridge lighting, DelDOT says.
The last of the four lanes on the new Indian River Inlet Bridge opened this week to traffic, ending a multiyear project that involved numerous lane closures and shifting traffic patterns. The pedestrian walkway is scheduled to open by Friday.
So they're finally building the I-95 to DE-1 flyover! It's about time!
Wilmington officials announced that an exit on I-95 northbound will be closed from midnight Thursday until 5 a.m. Friday.
Crews will remove overhead signs at Exit 8 (U.S. 202, Concord Pike). There will be signage alerting drivers to the closure and detours.
Drivers headed north should take the Marsh Road exit, turn left and then left onto I-95 southbound to Exit 8B (U.S. 202, Concord Pike/West Chester) or 8A (Concord Avenue).
I don't know if this has been mentioned here, but the SR 1 freeway now extends south over the Barkers Landing Bridge: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=39.1061&lon=-75.4544&zoom=13&layers=MHere's a 24/7 traffic camera at Barkers Landing, click on the yellow circle to the right to view. The next cam at DE 1 and Bowers Beach Rd shows my old homestead when the cam pans (the big white house).
I don't know if this has been mentioned here, but the SR 1 freeway now extends south over the Barkers Landing Bridge: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=39.1061&lon=-75.4544&zoom=13&layers=MHere's a 24/7 traffic camera at Barkers Landing, click on the yellow circle to the right to view. The next cam at DE 1 and Bowers Beach Rd shows my old homestead when the cam pans (the big white house).
www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicCameraDisplay&county=2
From what I can see the freeway is built to just north of Little Heaven. Before DE 1 was built this was US 113, a 2 lane hwy. It was a very dangerous intersection because to turn left off Trap Shooters Rd onto US 113 north (which 99% of traffic did) the structure of the old drawbridge obscurred your view. They didnt have the access roads like now, Trap Shooter Rd intersected directly (and deadended at) US 113. I lost a friend and an aquantiice here in two separate crashs and many many others died here also. :-(
Does anybody have any idea why Google Maps doesn't display any traffic info at all for DE-1 south of Dover (where the expressway portion ends)? I realize that it's not a freeway but I think everyone can agree it's still a major roadway facility, and certainly carries more traffic in the summer than US-13 or US-113 in southern Delaware. So why then, on Labor Day, is there no traffic information??Depends on DelDOT or whatever other agency collects traffic information. The NYC area is well represented by INRIX on freeways, and NJ (as an example) collects their own information through 5-1-1 and interagency coordination to cover state highways and other major roads (even down to the town level). If a major roadway isn't covered, it's because Delaware doesn't have a system set up for that road, not because of Google Maps.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=38.863236,-74.929504&spn=0.559243,1.130219&t=h&z=10&layer=t
Depends on DelDOT or whatever other agency collects traffic information. The NYC area is well represented by INRIX on freeways, and NJ (as an example) collects their own information through 5-1-1 and interagency coordination to cover state highways and other major roads (even down to the town level). If a major roadway isn't covered, it's because Delaware doesn't have a system set up for that road, not because of Google Maps.
Because what is measuring the phones as probes? Hint: it's not the phone companies.Depends on DelDOT or whatever other agency collects traffic information. The NYC area is well represented by INRIX on freeways, and NJ (as an example) collects their own information through 5-1-1 and interagency coordination to cover state highways and other major roads (even down to the town level). If a major roadway isn't covered, it's because Delaware doesn't have a system set up for that road, not because of Google Maps.
This is confusing to me - "if a major roadway isn't covered"? I was under the impression that traffic data for Google maps/maps on an iPhone is generated using phones as probes. I currently live in Fairfax, Virginia; when I check traffic on my phone, I can see traffic on nearly any minor arterial in Virginia or in DC. When I was in Delaware yesterday, I could see traffic for roads in neighborhoods in northern DE. Why then would there be no data along DE-1 south of Dover, with thousands of cars jammed up?
I'm driving from Pocomoke City to Dorsett VA, and I wanted to make it to Delaware since I've never been there. I notice on my map the "First Mason Dixon Stone" is a couple of miles of US 50. Is that stone still the legal corner of Delaware so I can say I've been to the state if I circle the stone?
Workers will soon close the exit ramp from southbound I-95 to southbound U.S. 202 [should reference Delaware 202]/Concord Pike for eight months to make way for the ongoing realignment of ramps at the interchange, officials say.
Starting the week of Sept. 24, motorists will be directed to follow a 2-mile detour north of Wilmington...
The overall interchange project is expected to wrap up in spring 2015, said Vernon Lawton, an area engineer for DelDOT.
Initially, the existing ramp was to remain open while crews built the new one in phases. Crews now hope to complete the replacement ramp by April or May 2013, weather permitting, Torrijos said.
State transportation officials are gearing up for a long-delayed, $65 million project to widen a stretch of Del. 26 between Clarksville and Bethany Beach, with construction expected to begin next fall.
Night construction could reduce the project duration by 18 months as work could continue through the peak tourist season. Construction could then conclude within 2½ years, rather than four, officials estimate.
During peak season (May 16 to Sept. 30), no work will be permitted Fridays through Mondays or on holidays. From Tuesdays through Thursdays, daytime lane restrictions won’t be allowed unless the contractor can maintain two lanes of traffic, Frey said.
In the off-peak season, lane restrictions are possible seven days a week. Winter is also when crews will tackle bridge reconstruction that will close two points of Del. 26 for up to eight weeks and require detours, officials said.
Planned improvements on Del. 26 include expanding the roadway from a width of roughly 40 feet to 64 feet. That will mean two, 11-foot-wide travel lanes; a 12-foot-wide continuous center turning lane; and 5-foot-wide paved shoulders in each direction. That work would extend from the intersection of Del. 26 at Omar and Powell Farm roads to Bethany Beach, to the point where Garfield Parkway expands to three lanes beyond the Assawoman Canal Bridge.
In addition to improving bicycle lanes along the corridor, plans call for installing 3.5 miles of sidewalks, six miles of curbing and delineating 230 entrances for businesses and residences, many of which have open, undefined entryways.
Work began in 2010 to widen and improve five miles of adjacent roads to serve as alternate routes during construction on Del. 26. To expedite that $11 million project after utility-related delays, the contractor began working on more than one section of roadway concurrently. Construction is expected to wrap up by next summer.
Drivers should brace themselves for more detours at the I-95/Del. 1 interchange near Christiana Mall — this time, full closures of Del. 1 starting next weekend and continuing into early November.
Depending on the day, crews will close the highway after 9 p.m. (later on weekends) and work through early morning. The roadway should reopen by 6 a.m. on weekdays, 10 a.m Saturdays and 8 a.m. Sundays. DelDOT’s contractor must maintain the current number of traffic lanes during peak travel hours.
The overnight closures are necessary to make room for the placement of large steel girders — part of the elevated fly-over ramps being built as part of the ongoing interchange project at I-95 and Del. 1.
One new flyover ramp will ultimately carry traffic from northbound Interstate 95 to northbound Del. 7. The other flyover ramp will carry traffic from southbound I-95 to the new mall bridge, Torrijos said.
The multiyear project aims to create smoother merging and less congestion at one of Delaware’s busiest interchanges. Construction is expected to be complete by the end of next year.
State prepares for widening of Del. 26 (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20120927/NEWS1501/309270035/State-prepares-widening-Del-26?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Home)QuoteState transportation officials are gearing up for a long-delayed, $65 million project to widen a stretch of Del. 26 between Clarksville and Bethany Beach, with construction expected to begin next fall.
Interstate 95 will shut down for bridge construction at the U.S. 202 interchange the weekend before Halloween...
Crews will close the highway from 8 p.m. Oct. 26 through 5 a.m. Oct. 29 to place large steel girders over the interstate — part of the new Exit 8 bridge to northbound U.S. 202, said Javier Torrijos, construction group engineer for DelDOT's north district.
Also inaccessible that weekend will be ramps from southbound U.S. 202 to northbound I-95 and from northbound 202 to southbound I-95. Those are in addition to the ramp from southbound I-95 to southbound 202, which is closed through April or May.
The new ramp bridge will have a minimum 18½-foot clearance over the interstate, eliminating a substandard clearance that currently causes problems for oversized trucks, said Vernon Lawton, an area engineer for DelDOT.
The I-95/U.S. 202 project is part of a $27.6 million makeover to improve safety and traffic flow through the heavily congested area. In a recent three-year period, the interchange had the highest crash rate among the six interchanges along I-95 in Delaware, according to a recent analysis by the Wilmington Area Planning Council.
Traffic cork set for I-95 (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20121012/NEWS1501/310110086/Traffic-cork-set-95)Advance VMS on I-95 only mention closing on Oct. 26, with no mention of a reopening date/time. I got the impression that it was going to be long-term based on that - very misleading.QuoteInterstate 95 will shut down for bridge construction at the U.S. 202 interchange the weekend before Halloween...QuoteCrews will close the highway from 8 p.m. Oct. 26 through 5 a.m. Oct. 29 to place large steel girders over the interstate — part of the new Exit 8 bridge to northbound U.S. 202, said Javier Torrijos, construction group engineer for DelDOT's north district.
The Delaware Department of Transportation this week presented plans for a $1.75-million fix to improve safety and reduce congestion along a half-mile stretch of Churchmans Road, between Christiana Hospital and the Del. 1 interchange. Construction is expected to begin next fall.
DelDOT engineers hope that adding a third right-turn lane will help. When crews complete the separate interchange project at I-95/Del. 1, coordination of signals on the corridor should also improve traffic flow, said Jenna Frye, the project engineer.
A major highway for people hoping to evacuate southern Delaware coastal communities is closed after ocean water breached sand dunes along the road.
Sussex County officials say Delaware Route 1 is closed in both directions north of the Indian River Inlet Bridge because of water on the road. The dune breach occurred around dawn Sunday morning. Officials say the highway will remain closed indefinitely as Hurricane Sandy closes in on Delaware.
Construction will begin Monday on a new Del. 1 interchange at Milford’s southern border, state officials announced today.
The work, expected to last about 14 months, will eliminate an accident-prone intersection that includes Wilkins Road, Del. 30 and Cedar Neck Road.
Delaware Department of Transportation officials said the contractor chosen for the work, George & Lynch, Inc. of Dover, submitted a bid of $9,222,466, the lowest of six received.
The initial work will require no lane closures but restrictions will be announced later, DelDOT said.
Work to begin Monday on new Del. 1 interchange at Milford (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20121127/NEWS15/311270023/Work-begin-Monday-new-Del-1-interchange-Milford)QuoteConstruction will begin Monday on a new Del. 1 interchange at Milford’s southern border, state officials announced today.
The work, expected to last about 14 months, will eliminate an accident-prone intersection that includes Wilkins Road, Del. 30 and Cedar Neck Road.
Delaware Department of Transportation officials said the contractor chosen for the work, George & Lynch, Inc. of Dover, submitted a bid of $9,222,466, the lowest of six received.
The initial work will require no lane closures but restrictions will be announced later, DelDOT said.
Part of Newark's Elkton Road now has a new name--South Main Street.
Newark City Council decided back in June to re-name the portion of Elkton Road between West Main Street and West Park Place effective New Year's Day, saying Elkton Road has been part of downtown Newark since Council expanded downtown's boundaries in 2007.
Council members believe the name change will foster growth by associating Elkton Road with Newark's downtown section.
Affected businesses and residents were told of the change in September, and DELDOT has completed changing road signs along the re-named road.
A ceremony recognizing the name change is set for Friday morning in the parking lot of Buffalo Wild Wings at 100 South Main Street.
did this sign get zapped, then?
Part of Newark's Elkton Road now called South Main Street (http://www.wdel.com/story.php?id=48085)
Was told about the renaming of Elkton Road to South Main Street by one of my best friends and a lifelong Newark native. He said that the renaming was more motivated to dissociate Newark with Elkton. After an airport run to PHL on Christmas Day, we rode through the new "South Main Street".
(http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/northeast/de-002b_273_wb_896_nb_app_split.jpg) (http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/northeast/de-002b_273_wb_896_nb_app_split.jpg)
Approaching the split of DE 2 Business/273 and 896 at the end of Newark business district. South Main Street begins to the left over what was Elkton Road.
Northbound Delaware 1 and 7 shifted from the summer onto a new alignment. To go along with this, a new sign bridge style (for DE at least) was posted at the off-ramp to Interstate 95 north. Still lots of work to be done on the flyovers.
According to DelDOT, they will be placing the beams over I-95 in February. There will be multiple 12-hour closures of I-95.
http://www.deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=4605
Why the space next to the I-95 North in the first photo? Seems like the I-295 and I-495 shields could have gone in that space. The shields also look small compared to the text on those panels.
One person did not believe me and said to me "That exit numbers do not go that high." Oh , yes they do and up to 171 as we all know.172. Thanks for playing. Good night.
Hey what about exit 354? :POne person did not believe me and said to me "That exit numbers do not go that high." Oh , yes they do and up to 171 as we all know.172. Thanks for playing. Good night.
Does not belong, and the DRPA's explanation to me (that they were just contining the exit numbering sequence) didn't make sense either!Hey what about exit 354? :POne person did not believe me and said to me "That exit numbers do not go that high." Oh , yes they do and up to 171 as we all know.172. Thanks for playing. Good night.
I counter that with, what about Exit J?Hey what about exit 354? :POne person did not believe me and said to me "That exit numbers do not go that high." Oh , yes they do and up to 171 as we all know.172. Thanks for playing. Good night.
did this sign get zapped, then?
(https://www.aaroads.com/delaware/delaware001/de-002b_273_wb_at_de-896_nb_02.jpg)
Updates on two major interchange projects in Delaware over the holidays:
(http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/de-001_007_nb_exit_165b.jpg) (http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/de-001_007_nb_exit_165b.jpg)
A project at the interchange of Del. 1 and Del. 273 would permanently close East Main Street north of the Christiana Park & Ride lot, state officials say.
The closure would make way for a new loop ramp to and from southbound Del. 1 at Del. 273. The DART bus hub and commuter parking lot would be moved to the Christiana Mall, project manager Darren O’Neill said.
Although construction is years away, DelDOT plans a public workshop next month to discuss the full project — to add a lane to Del. 1 in each direction from the Del. 273 interchange to the Chesapeake & Delaware Canal, including the Roth Bridge.
Does anyone know what became of "Metroform," which used to be a "control city" for either Del. 1 or Del. 4 on I-95?
Does anyone know what became of "Metroform," which used to be a "control city" for either Del. 1 or Del. 4 on I-95?
It was the named coined for the development planned at DE 4 and 7 that never really went anywhere. The name was unpopular and so they took in public feedback and Churchman's Crossing was the most popular. Even still, there is nothing that really exists that is Churchman's Crossing. Stanton is still there and standard development along DE 58 has taken place in the form of shopping centers rather than the master planned concept that Metroform entailed.
Regarding the new signs pictured in the previous post, those have to be temporary in nature, because the sign bridges are still the originals (or at least the ones from the mid-80s) and DelDOT always uses that Maryland-style overhead with the corrugated panels with the sharp corners. Still though I was shocked to see that Exit 4 now departs in unison from I-95 north!
improve safety in high-crash areas
Quoteimprove safety in high-crash areas
More effective (and less costly) than widening the road for this would be installing a median barrier. I'm also doubtful that it needs the extra lanes, especially south of US 13. Even during rush hour, it's not that bad. And widening is only going to further complicate the problem where everyone "shunpikes" off DE 1 at the south end of the bridge.
What they could do is continue the second lane on SB 1 where it merges with 13, extending it as an auxiliary lane to the off-ramp at 72. I think that's the best way to alleviate what congestion exists outside of Christiana.
What bugs me more are the gantries along I-95 north between DE 1/7 and DE 141 that show the right-most lane as "exit-only" for I-295. It's not, you have to use that lane to get to Exit 5B for DE 141 north.
DelDOT explains options for $180 million project to overhaul Del. 1
Written by Jeff Montgomery The News Journal
Apr. 08
A state Department of Transportation workshop on options for a $180 million expansion of a major north-south highway drew dozens of residents to Bear on Monday evening, many concerned about noise or the sacrifice of local access to meet through traffic needs. The project, unlikely to begin before late 2015, would add one lane in each direction along nearly 10 miles of Del. 1, eventually creating three lanes each way between Del. 273 and Tybouts Corner and four lanes between Tybouts and the south side of the Roth Bridge.
Major overhauls of the Del. 273, Tybouts Corner and Del. 72 interchanges are planned, with less extensive work at U.S. 40. The Del. 273 options include a more complex and wider cloverleaf of ramps and overpasses, possibly moving some on- and off-traffic to intersections at Newtowne Road and Del. 7 or nearby School Bell Road . One feature of the proposed design would ease cross-traffic friction by dead-ending Del. 7 just north of Del. 273, along a stretch of road that doubles as East Main Street in the historic and repeatedly flooded crossroads village of Christiana. “I think that’s pretty rude, to shut us out,” said Charles Ford, who has lived along a private road on the south side of Christiana, near the proposed new closing point, for a decade. “It’s going to cause a lot of extra time, extra gas and useless mileage on our vehicles.”
Congestion, safety and long-term needs are driving all of the plans, officials said during the workshop at Leasure Elementary School. Northbound Del. 1 already fails to meet current traffic flow standards between U.S. 40 and Del. 273, and both directions fail immediately south of Tybouts Corner. “A big part of it right now is, you have a congestion problem, we have multiple accident areas that are consistent, they’re not just a fluke,” said Darren M. O’Neill, a project development group engineer with DelDOT. “There’s a projection of growth in this area. If we don’t do something, the level of service at almost every location is going to fail, which will only lead to more congestion and traffic,” he said. Officials expect traffic along the corridor to nearly double in some areas by 2040, reaching 125,000 cars daily north of Tybouts, and 140,000 daily to the south. Current studies are aimed at selecting long-term solutions that meet environmental and federal highway aid requirements.
Much of the early public response to the plan has focused on proposals to rework the Del. 273 interchange south of Christiana Mall, where backups and accidents are common at the Del. 1 on- and off-ramps and the adjacent signal where Del. 273 and 7 meet. The entire area often clogs dangerously, officials said, as through traffic tangles with driver efforts to dog-leg between Del. 1 and heavily developed areas of Del. 7 to the south along a too-short stretch of Del. 273. To some Christiana residents, however, the cul-de-sac plan represents the latest chapter in a sort of “death of a thousand cutoffs” for the long-ago bypassed community.
“When it rains, it floods, and cutting off where they’re proposing to cut off, the people that live there are stuck,” said Saddie Waters, who lives nearby and who has attended Christiana United Methodist Church most of her life. Major highway and commercial developments already have created a dead-end east of the town, forcing traffic through the Del. 1 mall interchange. In the north, commercial development prompted DelDOT to close West Main Street’s direct connection with Del. 273, shunting drivers instead onto a road that doubles as a shopping center access. East-west traffic in Christiana concentrates along a shoulderless, narrow, two-lane section of Old Baltimore Pike already known for epic traffic jams during holidays and summer weekends.
DelDOT plans another workshop from 6-9 p.m. April 18 at Wilbur Elementary School near the Del. 72 interchange. Separate sessions on possible noise consequences are planned during the summer.
Dave Watts on Facebook found a gem on the Delaware State Acrhives site about the Delaware Turnpike. Among other things, there is some discussion of the (long discontinued) ramp tolls on the Turnpike:
DELAWARE TURNPIKE SCRAPBOOK
Delaware Turnpike John F. Kennedy Memorial Highway (http://archives.delaware.gov/exhibits/document/scrapbooks/turnpike.shtml)
Wow. First article I read has to do with people arguing over patronage jobs. "The city was supposed to get that job...We won't take this lying down"
It just seems strange for people from the same party to be arguing publicly over political patronage, something seemingly more appropriate to the 19th century.
Southbound Del. 1 will be closed late tonight near Christiana Mall to allow for installation of an overhead sign structure, the Delaware Department of Transportation reports.
The road will be closed at the I-95 overpass from 11 p.m. until 7 a.m. Saturday.
Southbound traffic will be detoured east on I-95, east on Del. 273 and back to Del. 1.
Sign work to close southbound Del. 1 at I-95 tonight (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130510/NEWS15/305100056/Sign-work-close-southbound-Del-1-95-tonight)QuoteSouthbound Del. 1 will be closed late tonight near Christiana Mall to allow for installation of an overhead sign structure, the Delaware Department of Transportation reports.
The road will be closed at the I-95 overpass from 11 p.m. until 7 a.m. Saturday.
Southbound traffic will be detoured east on I-95, east on Del. 273 and back to Del. 1.
Sign work to close southbound Del. 1 at I-95 tonight (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130510/NEWS15/305100056/Sign-work-close-southbound-Del-1-95-tonight)QuoteSouthbound Del. 1 will be closed late tonight near Christiana Mall to allow for installation of an overhead sign structure, the Delaware Department of Transportation reports.
The road will be closed at the I-95 overpass from 11 p.m. until 7 a.m. Saturday.
Southbound traffic will be detoured east on I-95, east on Del. 273 and back to Del. 1.
Really? Closing a roadway for 8 hours to add a sign structure? Something that normally take a 15+/- minute closure to complete?
Sign work to close southbound Del. 1 at I-95 tonight (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130510/NEWS15/305100056/Sign-work-close-southbound-Del-1-95-tonight)QuoteSouthbound Del. 1 will be closed late tonight near Christiana Mall to allow for installation of an overhead sign structure, the Delaware Department of Transportation reports.
The road will be closed at the I-95 overpass from 11 p.m. until 7 a.m. Saturday.
Southbound traffic will be detoured east on I-95, east on Del. 273 and back to Del. 1.
Really? Closing a roadway for 8 hours to add a sign structure? Something that normally take a 15+/- minute closure to complete?
I dunno. Are they removing an old structure first? A structure that spans an entire roadway (or both roadways), takes more than 15 minutes to install.
It is our experience that most people do not realize that Route 2 comes into Newark from the east off of Capitol Trail, goes down Route 72 to Route 4, and then to the west to Elkton Road, and then to the state line. Nor do most people realize that Main Street and Elkton Road (up to Route 4) are designated as Business Route 2.
Given that very few people or businesses refer to any form of Route 2 in Newark, we propose to end Route 2 at Route 273. We would completely eliminate Business Route 2. Almost all of the roads where we propose to eliminate the Route 2 or Business Route 2 designation are also "braided" with another Delaware route designations which would remain unchanged (such as Route 273, Route 72, and Route 896). The exception is Elkton Road between the Maryland state line and Christina Parkway, which we propose to designate as Delaware Route 279. This then matches the other side of the state line which is designated as Maryland Route 279.
The goal of this effort is to simplify the route designations in Newark, reduce sign clutter, and reduce sign maintenance costs.
I'm not sure what to make of this:
http://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/NewarkRouteChanges/index.shtmlQuoteIt is our experience that most people do not realize that Route 2 comes into Newark from the east off of Capitol Trail, goes down Route 72 to Route 4, and then to the west to Elkton Road, and then to the state line. Nor do most people realize that Main Street and Elkton Road (up to Route 4) are designated as Business Route 2.
Given that very few people or businesses refer to any form of Route 2 in Newark, we propose to end Route 2 at Route 273. We would completely eliminate Business Route 2. Almost all of the roads where we propose to eliminate the Route 2 or Business Route 2 designation are also "braided" with another Delaware route designations which would remain unchanged (such as Route 273, Route 72, and Route 896). The exception is Elkton Road between the Maryland state line and Christina Parkway, which we propose to designate as Delaware Route 279. This then matches the other side of the state line which is designated as Maryland Route 279.
The goal of this effort is to simplify the route designations in Newark, reduce sign clutter, and reduce sign maintenance costs.
http://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/NewarkRouteChanges/pdfs/NewarkProposedRoutes.pdf
Why not just get rid of Business 2 after 25 years (I remember the signs going up in 1988) and route DE 2 through Newark again? Or send DE 4 down Elkton Road and eliminate the need for a DE 279?
I agree with elsemere241, why not just extend DE-4 to the state line, rather than have a new DE-279 arbitrarily change to DE 4 while DE 896 turns?
I would rather DE 2 be restored to its pre-1988 alignment. The current route takes it over Amtrak twice, can be hard to follow, and multiplexes with DE 4 or DE 72 its entire length, sometimes using two-lane roads. If DelDOT is that concerned about multiplexed highways (and difficult turns) it should move DE 896 back from Elkton Road to South College Avenue. As it is, DE 896 north has to go around the block along West Delaware Avenue, South College Avenue, and West Main Street. It might be better to curtail DE 896 at downtown Newark and come up with a new number for South College/Summit Bridge anyway.
If you must curtail DE 2, then Elkton Road below Christina Parkway should be DE 4, rather than bring in a new number. It might be a good idea for that stretch to be DE 2 and DE 4 anyway - something I thought would happen when Christina Parkway was built in 1983.
If you must bring in a DE 279, it should go all the way into downtown, whether or not DE 896 is moved or curtailed. There is no point in creating a new number for just a couple of miles that ends where a new route (in this case DE 4) begins.
If DelDOT is that concerned with route numbers from Maryland carrying over, might I suggest creating DE 285 (Chesapeake City Road, connecting to DE 71); DE 310 (which could replace the current DE 896 along Pole Bridge Road); and/or replacing DE 299 west of Middletown with DE 282. There are several other instances of highways having different numbers in each state and there's no reason to proactively change any of them.
The proposal page now has a place for public comments. Here's what I just posted:QuoteI would rather DE 2 be restored to its pre-1988 alignment. The current route takes it over Amtrak twice, can be hard to follow, and multiplexes with DE 4 or DE 72 its entire length, sometimes using two-lane roads. If DelDOT is that concerned about multiplexed highways (and difficult turns) it should move DE 896 back from Elkton Road to South College Avenue. As it is, DE 896 north has to go around the block along West Delaware Avenue, South College Avenue, and West Main Street. It might be better to curtail DE 896 at downtown Newark and come up with a new number for South College/Summit Bridge anyway.
If you must curtail DE 2, then Elkton Road below Christina Parkway should be DE 4, rather than bring in a new number. It might be a good idea for that stretch to be DE 2 and DE 4 anyway - something I thought would happen when Christina Parkway was built in 1983.
If you must bring in a DE 279, it should go all the way into downtown, whether or not DE 896 is moved or curtailed. There is no point in creating a new number for just a couple of miles that ends where a new route (in this case DE 4) begins.
If DelDOT is that concerned with route numbers from Maryland carrying over, might I suggest creating DE 285 (Chesapeake City Road, connecting to DE 71); DE 310 (which could replace the current DE 896 along Pole Bridge Road); and/or replacing DE 299 west of Middletown with DE 282. There are several other instances of highways having different numbers in each state and there's no reason to proactively change any of them.
I agree with everything you wrote.
One other thought on the proposals they have, if they are going to truncate DE 2 to East Main Street, why not renumber DE 72 from Possum Park Road northward to something else as well, and have DE 72 start at Library Avenue and DE 273. This would eliminate the somewhat odd concept of having DE 2/72 overlap westward with DE 2 ending and DE 72 continuing.
I prefer "concurrent" or "co-signed" or even "share pavement" to "multiplex." Where did that term for two or more routes signed on the same road originate?m.t.r. "Decommissioned" came from Route 66 fandom.
The Delaware Department of Transportation has rescheduled the opening of the new ramp from I-95 southbound to U.S. 202 southbound.
Officials have moved the ramp’s opening – part of a three-year project to improve the interchange – to Tuesday because of recent rains.
The event had been scheduled to occur today.
Rush W sent me this Newark Post article on the Newark route renumbering:
A route to less clutter: DelDOT to consolidate Newark route numbers (http://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/article_081d2586-e14b-11e2-94de-001a4bcf887a.html)
Per the article, were the route changes made official?
A public workshop today in New Castle will discuss upcoming construcÂtion on southbound I-295 and U.S. 13 just south of the interstate’s overpass.
Plans include installing a tunnel under U.S. 13 to accommodate pedestriÂans and bicyclists, as part of a larger recreational trail envisioned between Wilmington and New Castle. Three lanes of traffic will be maintained at all times during construction, with the exception of two planned weekend detours for closings.
Southbound I-295 is also being reconstructed between Del. 9 and I-95, including the removal of five bridges and the replacement of the bridge spanning U.S. 13 and several safety improvements to the ramps in both directions.
Those interested may stop by the meeting between 4 and 7 p.m. at the Howard J. Weston Community Center, 1 Bassett Ave. in the Manor Park community near New Castle.
What five bridges are being removed? I think I can identify four of them. First would be the bridge on I-295 south that goes over the former ramp from US 13 south to I-295 north. Another might be the ramp from US 13 north to I-295 south might be moved so that bridge over I-295 north can be removed. Then there are 2 bridges on I-295 south that are west of US 13 that are not present on I-295 northbound. But I'm stuck on the fifth bridge.
I'm most interested if they will add another lane to I-295 south across US 13. The concrete pavement on I-295 south which is west of US 13 is in quite bad shape.
2) Over US 13 North/SouthThat one doesn't count as a removal. It's covered separately in the article:
...including the removal of five bridges and the replacement of the bridge spanning U.S. 13...Unless they are mistakenly counting that bridge twice (as a replacement and a removal).
Eighty percent of the project is covered by federal funds.WTF? That's a toll road why does it get Fed funding?
QuoteEighty percent of the project is covered by federal funds.WTF? That's a toll road why does it get Fed funding?
The northern part of DE 1 is free and on the NHS, which is why it's in the 80% category.QuoteEighty percent of the project is covered by federal funds.WTF? That's a toll road why does it get Fed funding?
The northern part of DE 1 is free and on the NHS, which is why it's in the 80% category.QuoteEighty percent of the project is covered by federal funds.WTF? That's a toll road why does it get Fed funding?
I read someplace (might have been on Scott Kozel's site (http://www.pennways.com/DE-1_KWVM_Hwy.html)) that the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers owns all of the bridges over the Chesapeake & Delaware Canal, including that big cable-stayed span that carries Del. 1 over the canal - and that the Corps may not charge tolls on those bridges, which is why the northernmost toll barrier on the Relief Route (Del. 1) is just south of interchange immediately adjacent to the interchange on the south side of the bridge.
Rush W sent me this Newark Post article on the Newark route renumbering:
A route to less clutter: DelDOT to consolidate Newark route numbers (http://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/article_081d2586-e14b-11e2-94de-001a4bcf887a.html)
Per the article, were the route changes made official?
According to the DelDOT page I referenced a month ago, no. They're still taking comments.
I read someplace (might have been on Scott Kozel's site (http://www.pennways.com/DE-1_KWVM_Hwy.html)) that the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers owns all of the bridges over the Chesapeake & Delaware Canal, including that big cable-stayed span that carries Del. 1 over the canal - and that the Corps may not charge tolls on those bridges, which is why the northernmost toll barrier on the Relief Route (Del. 1) is just south of interchange immediately adjacent to the interchange on the south side of the bridge.
The project was funded 50% federal/50% state. The toll free portion was built with federal funding while the southern half was funded by the State of Delaware with bonds that are being repaid by tolls. The reason why the C&D bridge is free is that originally the St. Georges/US-13 bridge was going to be removed and DelDOT had to maintain a free crossing over the canal.
Originally, there wasn't an exit on the South side of the DE 1 bridge, so all traffic would have to pay a toll prior to being able to exit."Originally" meaning during planning: https://www.aaroads.com/delaware/sr1_turnpike.htm
The bridge was originally to be tolled, but to garner maintenance of the bridge by the Army Corps of Engineers required at least one toll free crossing at St. Georges. The pending closure and dismantling of the St. Georges Bridge nixed the proposal to include the new bridge as part of the tolled section of the SR 1 Turnpike, and thus the bridge remains a free entity. To maintain the toll free status DelDOT added an exit for U.S. 13 (by way of Lorewood Grove Road) at South St. Georges to the project.
Rush W sent me this Newark Post article on the Newark route renumbering:The latter part of the article makes reference to a rerouting the southern portion of US 202 off of I-95 and DE 141. In that case, the solution there is rather obvious; place the portion of US 202 south of I-95 back to its previous alignment to Business US 13 (currently signed as DE 202).
A route to less clutter: DelDOT to consolidate Newark route numbers (http://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/article_081d2586-e14b-11e2-94de-001a4bcf887a.html)
Per the article, were the route changes made official?
"Braided?" Don't think I've ever heard that term before, but it's better than "multiplex."The writer of the article may not necessarily be an engineer and/or roadgeek. :sombrero:
I prefer "concurrent" or "co-signed" or even "share pavement" to "multiplex." Where did that term for two or more routes signed on the same road originate?
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130807/LIFE04/130807015/Delaware-Spaces-Three-states-backyard-near-Newark
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130807/LIFE04/130807015/Delaware-Spaces-Three-states-backyard-near-Newark
As part of the on-going Route 1/I-95 Interchange Project, DelDOT's contractor, Cherry Hill Construction will be installing barrier walls, overhead signs, and paving. This construction will require lane and exit ramp closures beginning at 7 p.m. on Monday, August 26 and ending at 7 a.m. on Tuesday, August 27. The opening of the new fly-over ramp will eliminate the existing cattle chute on I-95 southbound to Route 1 southbound
[...]
6 a.m. on Tuesday, August 27
Re-open Route 1 southbound, removal of lane restrictions from I-95 southbound, and Opening of Fly-Over Ramp for I-95 southbound to Route 1 southbound.
Sounds like the first flyover for the I-95 interchange at DE 1 will open right before Labor Day.Just in time for the sum...mer... season...
http://www.deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=4865
In a major weekend traffic disruption, I-95 is shut down in both directions to allow for bridge demolition at the Concord Pike/U.S. 202 interchange north of Wilmington.
The road work is expected to divert an estimated 30,000 to 40,000 travelers a day to I-495, the recommended alternate route, before I-95 is reopened at 5 a.m. Monday.
Crews have closed the interstate at Concord Pike several times since last fall as part of the interchange reconstruction project.
Does Beaches really need a symbol?
(Also: right sign should be 7 NORTH 58.)
Delaware DOT is integrating toll collection more tightly into its motor vehicles division which handles the state's motor vehicle registry and issue of vehicle license plates. Division director Jennifer L Cohan told TOLLROADSnews in an interview Friday that with the growth of open road and all-electronic tolling she sees increasing "synergy."
"We are going to be doing more tolling to upgrade our highways. It's going to be free flow toll collection, so the synergy with the motor registry will only grow."
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130817/NEWS15/308170003/I-95-shut-Concord-Pike-until-Monday-morning?nclick_check=1You've inadvertently stepped into my wheelhouse ;) No, you don't need to close the road, but in this case, they realized that I-495 can easily handle the diverted traffic. It's a LOT more efficient to get work done without having to worry about traffic coming by. Instead of 15-minute slowdowns, waiting for traffic to clear, and being limited to overnight hours, they can accomplish in a single weekend what might have taken a month.QuoteIn a major weekend traffic disruption, I-95 is shut down in both directions to allow for bridge demolition at the Concord Pike/U.S. 202 interchange north of Wilmington.
The road work is expected to divert an estimated 30,000 to 40,000 travelers a day to I-495, the recommended alternate route, before I-95 is reopened at 5 a.m. Monday.
Crews have closed the interstate at Concord Pike several times since last fall as part of the interchange reconstruction project.
Completely unnecessary for what they are doing. Removing and installing bridge beams is not something that requires complete highway closures for an entire weekend. As I said before, comparing this to the NJ Turnpike, the turnpike would've been shut down many night and weekend for the past few years if they maintained the same policies.
You've inadvertently stepped into my wheelhouse ;) No, you don't need to close the road, but in this case, they realized that I-495 can easily handle the diverted traffic. It's a LOT more efficient to get work done without having to worry about traffic coming by. Instead of 15-minute slowdowns, waiting for traffic to clear, and being limited to overnight hours, they can accomplish in a single weekend what might have taken a month.
Delaware is getting its first set of overhead arrow-per-lane signs. The two that I've found are off northbound exit 5A, and southbound exit 4B, next to the offramps. Below is the sign assembly to be located at Exit 4B:
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5527/9530374452_2942741eea_c.jpg)
By Tuesday morning’s rush, commuters will be relieved of a long-maligned choke point when the new flyover ramp from southbound I-95 to Del. 1 opens to traffic, officials say.
The new design is meant to eliminate dangerous weaving between lanes at Exit 4A and relieve chronic backups at peak hours.
Motorists exiting the southbound lanes of I-95 near Christiana will no longer have to compete with traffic entering the interstate, and vice versa.
“We’re closing the cattle chute,” Transportation Secretary Shailen Bhatt said Wednesday.
Bhatt was referring to the end of the existing ramp from southbound I-95 to Del. 1, where drivers haltingly merge into heavy mall-bound traffic and other vehicles traveling south on Del. 1/7.
The single lane in that last photo should be temporary, especially as the 'Right Lane Ends' signs are construction signs. I would like to believe the lane to the right of the barriers will merge into the lanes after the barrier and then end. Eventually, Rt. 1 is supposed to be widened from 2 to 3 lanes, and all 3 lanes thru this area will continue thru.
Two lanes will taper to one by the time the ramp meets southbound Del. 1 just north of the interchange with Del. 273, officials said.
He noted that drivers on the ramp won’t have to merge onto Del. 1 but will have the dedicated use of the left, southbound lane. That also should keep the bulk of the traffic entering Del. 1 out of the way of those in the right lane trying to exit the highway for Del. 273, Torrijos said.
DelDOT opened a series of briefings and rekindled a long-smoldering debate Monday over plans to rebuild parts of U.S. 113 in Sussex County, convening meetings in Millsboro and Dagsboro to outline its preference for an up to $839 million proposal to relocate the highway between Millsboro and the Maryland line.
The agency released its choice in a draft environmental impact statement with little fanfare earlier this month. Generally, the plan calls for a bypass of Millsboro, Dagsboro and Frankford along a new alignment swinging well east of the existing highway. The existing road would be upgraded from the Maryland line to north of Selbyville before shifting onto a new path east of the present highway.
Actual construction could be decades away, officials acknowledged. Options for bypassing Millsboro in the draft environmental impact statement retained many key features of an approach outlined in 2007. Town manager Faye Lingo said Monday that local officials still support the design.
Plans for the 16.9-mile stretch include six full interchanges, nine overpasses and five water crossings.
The single lane in that last photo should be temporary, especially as the 'Right Lane Ends' signs are construction signs. I would like to believe the lane to the right of the barriers will merge into the lanes after the barrier and then end. Eventually, Rt. 1 is supposed to be widened from 2 to 3 lanes, and all 3 lanes thru this area will continue thru.
I would not be so sure about the ramp expansion to two lanes. DE 1 currently is relegated to a single lane ramp at its merge with US 13 as well. Plus from the News Journal article:QuoteTwo lanes will taper to one by the time the ramp meets southbound Del. 1 just north of the interchange with Del. 273, officials said.
I would not be so sure about the ramp expansion to two lanes. DE 1 currently is relegated to a single lane ramp at its merge with US 13 as well.
QuoteI would not be so sure about the ramp expansion to two lanes. DE 1 currently is relegated to a single lane ramp at its merge with US 13 as well.
DE 1's right lane was actually extended past the merge to utilize some extra pavement. So technically DE 1 keeps more than one lane through that merge.
Fixed end quote tag - Alex
QuoteI would not be so sure about the ramp expansion to two lanes. DE 1 currently is relegated to a single lane ramp at its merge with US 13 as well.
DE 1's right lane was actually extended past the merge to utilize some extra pavement. So technically DE 1 keeps more than one lane through that merge.
Fixed end quote tag - Alex
We were referring to the movement from Interstate 95 south to Delaware 1 south, which is the predominate source of traffic for DE 1 headed south to Bear and Dover. The configuration heading south will change again once a decision is made on how to upgrade the interchange with DE 273.
QuoteI would not be so sure about the ramp expansion to two lanes. DE 1 currently is relegated to a single lane ramp at its merge with US 13 as well.
DE 1's right lane was actually extended past the merge to utilize some extra pavement. So technically DE 1 keeps more than one lane through that merge.
Fixed end quote tag - Alex
We were referring to the movement from Interstate 95 south to Delaware 1 south, which is the predominate source of traffic for DE 1 headed south to Bear and Dover. The configuration heading south will change again once a decision is made on how to upgrade the interchange with DE 273.
Someone had mentioned the merging of Rtes. 1 and 13 as a comparison to the I-95 south to Rte. 1 south ramp.
Personally, I hope this lays the groundwork for a Delmarva interstate, but that's probably far-fetched. Perhaps a relocated I-97? :biggrin:Well shit, I got it. Extend the recently-approved NC I-495 east to Norfolk, then up the Delmarva and connect it to existing DE I-495. The Capital Beltway can be I-69O.
As I recall, it was NIMBYs that killed the Milford bypass options as well...DelDOT had studied several southern bypass options for tying 113 south of Milford into DE 1.
Not necessarily. Even if traffic becomes more congested, traffic will eventually reach an equilibrium. With *NUMEROUS* examples both across the country and even within Delaware, even if "traffic gets bad", the powers-that-be may well just sit and not do anything about it.
After hearing this thread, I now understand why Delaware only has one interstate in one county and at less than 25 miles. Obviously they hate freeways, and it was because of the heavy beach traffic on US 13 through New Castle and Northern Kent Counties that got the DE 1 Turnpike off the ground.
The state Department of Transportation this month detailed plans to widen a mile-long section of Del. 72 at U.S. 40 by adding a through lane in both directions from Del Laws Road to GBC Drive. The $21-million project would include additional east- and westbound left-turn lanes along U.S. 40 at Del. 72.
DelDOT first proposed the safety and congestion fixes in 1999 but postponed plans in 2005 due to budget constraints. More recently, the intersection made the state’s 2011 list of high-crash sites with 89 collisions over three years.
Construction would begin in late 2016 at the earliest...
Other safety improvements include eliminating left turns onto Broadleaf Drive from northbound Del. 72 and prohibiting left turns from southern end of Fox Run Circle onto northbound Del. 72.
Plans also include a new signal at Wrangle Hill and Del Laws roads.
DelDOT estimates construction would take two years. The agency is accepting comments on the plans through Oct. 10.
I personally think that DelDOT needs to find an alternative without cutting Main Street access. Most other exits are congested, narrow, or empty out in bad places. That, the presence of the fire department, and its flood emergency usage make it IMO un-removable.
Noise relief concessions could account for $10 million or more of the $180 million in costs to widen Del. 1 from Del. 273 to the Roth Bridge, highway officials said Tuesday night.
The project would add one lane in each direction between Del. 273 and the south side of the & D Canal, with work starting with the northernmost — and oldest — two-lane section some time after 2015.
Plans call for a third lane each way between Del. 273 and Tybouts Corner, and a fourth lane each way between Tybouts and the south side of the Roth Bridge, along with reconstruction of four interchanges.
The Roth Bridge was designed to carry four lanes of traffic and will not require additional construction, only re-striping of the lanes, officials have said.
Del. 1 expansion may provide noise relief to some neighborhoods (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130925/NEWS/309250031/Del-1-expansion-may-provide-noise-relief-some-neighborhoods)QuoteNoise relief concessions could account for $10 million or more of the $180 million in costs to widen Del. 1 from Del. 273 to the Roth Bridge, highway officials said Tuesday night.QuoteThe project would add one lane in each direction between Del. 273 and the south side of the & D Canal, with work starting with the northernmost and oldest two-lane section some time after 2015.
Plans call for a third lane each way between Del. 273 and Tybouts Corner, and a fourth lane each way between Tybouts and the south side of the Roth Bridge, along with reconstruction of four interchanges.
The Roth Bridge was designed to carry four lanes of traffic and will not require additional construction, only re-striping of the lanes, officials have said.
Highway officials have said the work is needed to ease traffic congestion, improve safety, provide for emergency needs and accommodate planned and anticipated development.
Alex4897 was referring to this sign:I guess DelDOT didn't get the memo prohibiting the use of state names as control destinations. Although, IMHO, the use of such in this instance makes greater sense.
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3817/10011462335_78deaaf2dd_c.jpg)
Additionally, DelDOT aslo forgot about the only approved/recommended use of the Clearview font is for the control destinations and nothing else.
Maryland's the same way. It seems as though DelDOT copied Maryland's specs. for Clearview applications and exit tab layouts.Additionally, DelDOT aslo forgot about the only approved/recommended use of the Clearview font is for the control destinations and nothing else.
That's one thing they've never understood with Clearview.
I would've liked to see larger shields as well. The lettering is nice and large, but the shields are more suited for a small, low speed roadway, not Rt. 1.Agree. One positive is at least the 3di-shields (the 3-di shields are using the correct FWHA series fonts (series C).
Additionally, DelDOT aslo forgot about the only approved/recommended use of the Clearview font is for the control destinations and nothing else.
That's one thing they've never understood with Clearview.
Additionally, DelDOT aslo forgot about the only approved/recommended use of the Clearview font is for the control destinations and nothing else.
That's one thing they've never understood with Clearview.
I still think Virginia's implementation at the Dulles Access/Toll Road is really butt-ugly. Narrow tab, LEFT banner in Clearview...At least Delaware TRIED for MUTCD compliance.
I still think Virginia's implementation of Clearview is really butt-ugly. At least Delaware TRIED for MUTCD compliance.Fixed.
I guess DelDOT didn't get the memo prohibiting the use of state names as control destinations. Although, IMHO, the use of such in this instance makes greater sense.
Granted, it could be argued that the use of New York could refer to NYC.
I disagree with Takumi's assessment. I actually like how VDOT implemented Clearview on placename signs (http://www.vahighways.com/placenames/index.html).I'll admit it looks good on placename and distance signs, now that they're actually doing it mostly correctly. I still don't like when they use it for everything on overhead displays (even the exit tab) or on gore signs. It's the combination of the numbers and all caps that incenses me in those two cases.
QuoteI guess DelDOT didn't get the memo prohibiting the use of state names as control destinations. Although, IMHO, the use of such in this instance makes greater sense.
Granted, it could be argued that the use of New York could refer to NYC.
"New Jersey" has been a control city for I295 as long as I can remember. You'll also see "NJ/NY" as the control city for I295.
Understood regarding the long-time usage of state names for control destinations on many highways (I-295 in DE included); but, many newer BGS replacements nationwide have eliminated such practices.QuoteI guess DelDOT didn't get the memo prohibiting the use of state names as control destinations. Although, IMHO, the use of such in this instance makes greater sense.
Granted, it could be argued that the use of New York could refer to NYC.
"New Jersey" has been a control city for I295 as long as I can remember. You'll also see "NJ/NY" as the control city for I295.
New Jersey was the original control city for I295 on Deldot maintained signs until the late 80s when NJ-NY was introduced. DRBA signs were shifted to NJ-NY later.
I guess DelDOT's removing the old small-green/yellow-light signals in Odessa along Rtes. 13/299. qq
(can't remember the name, are they eagle signals?)
http://deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=4907 (http://deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=4907)
Where are those u-turn signals that were in the bottom of the album?To the right of the photo in question, there's an EAST 92 reassurance sign just past the intersection; so it's along the stretch of DE 92 (Naaman's Road) between I-95 and US 202.
That works too. :-D
Where are those u-turn signals that were in the bottom of the album?
Where are those u-turn signals that were in the bottom of the album?To the right of the photo in question, there's an EAST 92 reassurance sign just past the intersection; so it's along the stretch of DE 92 (Naaman's Road) between I-95 and US 202.
Anyway, I just drove the DE 1 flyover for the first time. One minute of pure roadgeeking beauty.
I guess DelDOT's removing the old small-green/yellow-light signals in Odessa along Rtes. 13/299. qq
(can't remember the name, are they eagle signals?)
http://deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=4907 (http://deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=4907)
Boo! Though most of the old signals there were already replaced. Took a photo of the one remaining old 12x8x8 Eagle in July at least...
And yet somehow they built up the earth enough to prevent it from being an actual stack interchange. :-/
I went to downtown Newark and noticed that DE-2 now ends at 273 and all traces of Business 2 are gone. I didn't go down Elkton Road (excuse me, its now South Main Street) to see if DE-279 has been born but I imagine it is.
Adding to the Newark sign changes, I received an email from Bob today confirming that DE 2 ends at DE 273 (East Main Street) now:QuoteI went to downtown Newark and noticed that DE-2 now ends at 273 and all traces of Business 2 are gone. I didn't go down Elkton Road (excuse me, its now South Main Street) to see if DE-279 has been born but I imagine it is.
Today was a bit of a nightmare of a morning commute. :crazy:
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20131016/NEWS15/310160051/Del-896-reopened-after-tractor-trailer-crash-cleared (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20131016/NEWS15/310160051/Del-896-reopened-after-tractor-trailer-crash-cleared)
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20131016/NEWS15/310160010/Northbound-US-13-closed-at-St-Georges-Bridge (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20131016/NEWS15/310160010/Northbound-US-13-closed-at-St-Georges-Bridge)
Relevant because of the potential connection between Churchmans Road and Delaware 1:
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20131106/BUSINESS12/311060073/Cavaliers-Country-Club-sell-half-land?gcheck=1
The parcel — which is the course’s western section and back nine holes — will require a variety of approvals from New Castle County and might need to be rezoned before any development takes place, a process that could take three to five years, Carucci said.
I don't see a problem with delaying that interchange. Plenty of other locations along DE 1 that are higher priority for improvements. Of those already within the pipeline: new interchanges at Little Heaven and on the northeast side of Milford (near Royal Farms). Could also see an interchange on DE 1 at DE 16, though I'm not finding anything on DelDOT's website.
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20131106/NEWS02/311060039/Kent-lawmakers-press-Del-1-interchange-feed-sports-complex
For the facility, Kent County donated 85 acres of farmland east of Del. 1 near the intersection of Milford Neck and Tub Mill Pond roads. The latest plans call for 12 synthetic turf fields; a grandstand seating 1,500; and 900 parking spaces.
Relevant because of the potential connection between Churchmans Road and Delaware 1:
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20131106/BUSINESS12/311060073/Cavaliers-Country-Club-sell-half-land?gcheck=1QuoteThe parcel — which is the course’s western section and back nine holes — will require a variety of approvals from New Castle County and might need to be rezoned before any development takes place, a process that could take three to five years, Carucci said.
I am sure this process will be streamlined, because that area is in dire need of more retail and traffic!
Building an entire interchange for a sports complex with 900 parking spots? As a comparison - the Christiana Mall has 6,000 parking spots!
They have a gallery of construction pictures from the '60s, half of the pictures didn't display for me for some reason but the ones that did were pretty cool.
http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=BL&Dato=20131114&Kategori=PHOTOS01&Lopenr=311140107&Ref=PH/The-construction-95?odyssey=mod%7Cdefcon%7Cimg%7CHome&nclick_check=1 (http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=BL&Dato=20131114&Kategori=PHOTOS01&Lopenr=311140107&Ref=PH/The-construction-95?odyssey=mod%7Cdefcon%7Cimg%7CHome&nclick_check=1)
Article on the current status of the US 113 bypass:
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20131203/NEWS/312030050/Lawmakers-push-changes-DelDOT-s-US-113-bypass-plan (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20131203/NEWS/312030050/Lawmakers-push-changes-DelDOT-s-US-113-bypass-plan)
Sussex County lawmakers on Monday pressed DelDOT to rework and step up efforts to develop a northeast bypass around Millsboro, while stressing continuing opposition to the agency’s preferred alignment for a longer U.S. 113 replacement road.
DelDOT’s draft environmental impact statement for the $839 million, 16.9-mile Millsboro-South portion of the U.S. 113 relief project would link the highway north of town to Delaware 24 on the east, then continue south to the Maryland line along a new alignment east of Frankford and Dagsboro.
Sussex lawmakers have threatened to block money for the work, however, citing opposition among residents and communities south of Millsboro where support for widening the existing road is greater.
Legislators and some residents and businesses urged the state to consider Millsboro’s congestion problem separately, and revise its preferred design in a way that pushes the bypass north, away from Millsboro Pond and residential areas. That alignment would cut partly across the protected Doe Run Nature Preserve, an area that state environmental officials say contains rare habitat and endangered species.
DelDOT Secretary Shailen Bhatt said federal agencies usually press highway departments to avoid environmentally sensitive habitats and wetlands whenever alternatives are available. Crossing a portion of the 180-acre Doe Run tract could, in addition, require approval from the full General Assembly.
Article on the current status of the US 113 bypass:
http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20131203/NEWS/312030050/Lawmakers-push-changes-DelDOT-s-US-113-bypass-plan (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20131203/NEWS/312030050/Lawmakers-push-changes-DelDOT-s-US-113-bypass-plan)
Anything worth reading there? I don't want to click to use up one of my few "free" articles for something that is just going to be more of the same (bypass downgraded, delayed, or likely cancelled IOW).
DelDOT replaced some of the BGSs along DE 1 approaching the US 40 interchange. They now include relevant control cities (Glasgow and Bear) as opposed to the unknown or distant places previously mentioned (State Road and Elkton). Its also in Clearview.
State Road doesn't even exist as far as I know. US 40's street name is Pulaski Hwy.State Road is a place, not a road.
An obscure place in Bear's shadow at thatState Road doesn't even exist as far as I know. US 40's street name is Pulaski Hwy.State Road is a place, not a road.
Heading north on Friday, noticed that the ramps at the new DE 1/DE 30 interchange are now open on both sides. The bridge over DE 1 at Wilkins Rd, however, is still under construction and looks like it'll still be a few months before it's completed. Also of note, the guide signage for the northbound exit is completely empty...it's just a green blank. My guess is due to the bridge still being built. Southbound exit is signed as DE 30.
The location of the problem is the Christina Parkway, that stretch of newer road between Elkton Road and South College Avenue that joins Chestnut Hill Road. It is designated as both Del. 4 and Del. 896.
A capital improvement project is in DelDOT’s current Capital Transportation Program to reconstruct Del. 4 to provide the consistent two lanes heading eastbound.
Design is currently underway, said department spokeswoman Sandy Roumillat. Funding for the construction, however, is four to five years out under current plans, she said.
She added restriping is not a recommended solution.
“We are not certain that the existing shoulder, which would become a travel lane, could handle increased traffic loads,” she said.
Been this way for decades and no attempts have been made to deal with it and based upon what the article reads, its still a long way off before it is ever dealt with.
Fix It: Bottleneck on Christina Parkway (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20140113/NEWS18/301130035/Fix-Bottleneck-Christina-Parkway)QuoteThe location of the problem is the Christina Parkway, that stretch of newer road between Elkton Road and South College Avenue that joins Chestnut Hill Road. It is designated as both Del. 4 and Del. 896.QuoteA capital improvement project is in DelDOT’s current Capital Transportation Program to reconstruct Del. 4 to provide the consistent two lanes heading eastbound.
Design is currently underway, said department spokeswoman Sandy Roumillat. Funding for the construction, however, is four to five years out under current plans, she said.
She added restriping is not a recommended solution.
“We are not certain that the existing shoulder, which would become a travel lane, could handle increased traffic loads,” she said.
Gov. Jack Markell is seeking a 10-cent increase in Delaware’s gas tax and borrowing $50 million more a year to fund a $500 million, five-year proposal to improve roads and bridges statewide. The proposals were announced today during a press conference Markell held to outline his infrastructure plan. The new tax and debt would generate about $100 million a year to fund the plan. The Legislature must approve the proposals.
Delawareans now pay 23 cents in state gas tax. A 10-cent increase is expected to generate about $50 million a year.
Been this way for decades and no attempts have been made to deal with it and based upon what the article reads, its still a long way off before it is ever dealt with.
Fix It: Bottleneck on Christina Parkway (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20140113/NEWS18/301130035/Fix-Bottleneck-Christina-Parkway)QuoteThe location of the problem is the Christina Parkway, that stretch of newer road between Elkton Road and South College Avenue that joins Chestnut Hill Road. It is designated as both Del. 4 and Del. 896.QuoteA capital improvement project is in DelDOT’s current Capital Transportation Program to reconstruct Del. 4 to provide the consistent two lanes heading eastbound.
Design is currently underway, said department spokeswoman Sandy Roumillat. Funding for the construction, however, is four to five years out under current plans, she said.
She added restriping is not a recommended solution.
"We are not certain that the existing shoulder, which would become a travel lane, could handle increased traffic loads, she said.
Remove the tolls on I-95. PROBLEM SOLVED.
Instead of creating a dead-end, the state would install a roundabout along Del. 7/East Main Street just north of Del. 273 in Christiana — an alternative that would retain full access to the village and address safety concerns at the intersection, officials say.
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/traffic/2014/05/20/truck-carrying-bees-overturns-on-95-on-ramp/9348173/ (http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/traffic/2014/05/20/truck-carrying-bees-overturns-on-95-on-ramp/9348173/)
nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope
I saw the headline and one photo of the empty, overturned truck. I'm clicking on absolutely nothing related to this story ever.
And that wasn't the only truck accident that day: http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/traffic/2014/05/20/crash-causes-delays-on-del-1-near-95/9333925/
In this one, the truck was hauling a power substation which was completely destroyed when it hit the overpass.
The truck had an 'Oversized Load' banner. And from what I remember there's no clearance plate on that overpass, so it's at least 14'6".
Something must've gone terrible wrong for this truck to go the distance it went, not hit anything, and then suddenly hit this overpass.
Luckily they determined the overpass was OK. It appears to have hit the 95 NB Overpass, which is not one of the new ones in this recently reconstructed interchange.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7414/9604424885_b4145120db_z.jpg)
I it looks like a "cover-up"... APL arrows overlaid on existing pull-through
Is it me or do those shields look smaller in the newer BGS'? I prefer the shield sizes (& direction cardinal sizes) on the older BGS'.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7414/9604424885_b4145120db_z.jpg)
I it looks like a "cover-up"... APL arrows overlaid on existing pull-through
That sign is now this...
(http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd144/roadnut/5AAB51B1-C88C-484E-BFCA-E0B29C76BF65.jpg) (http://s225.photobucket.com/user/roadnut/media/5AAB51B1-C88C-484E-BFCA-E0B29C76BF65.jpg.html)
So I was screwing around on Historic Aerials the other day and found a few things relating back to DE 1's construction that were interesting.
(http://i.imgur.com/1YRBbye.png)
The first was a traffic light at the Christiana Mall that appears to be on the mainline. I knew this configuration existed prior to noticing it on HA, but it reignited curiosity as to what this actually looked like. Does anyone of pictures of this old setup, from satellite or from the ground?
(http://i.imgur.com/LtDLliO.png)
The second appears to be either early plans for the Tybouts Corner interchange, or an early configuration of it. Was the access ramp to DE 1 north ever that far back? A quick glance at Google Maps shows what appears to be grading for this supposed ramp.
DOVER – To pay the toll or not to pay the toll?
That is the question.
It’s a question motorists are pondering more after weekend tolls increased a month ago on Del 1.
Starting Aug 1, the state increased the weekend rate from $2 to $3 for all vehicle classes, except oversized loads, from 7 p.m. Friday to 11 p.m. Sunday.
Weekday and ramp tolls in Smyrna and Dover didn’t change. But Delaware officials announced a $1 increase at the highway’s main plazas in June when it appeared the General Assembly wouldn’t consider the governor’s proposed 10-cents per gallon gasoline tax hike.
The toll increase is anticipated to net the state another $10 million. That money will be combined with $20 million in borrowing this fiscal year to fund statewide paving and transportation projects, officials said.
So, more motorists are looking for alternate routes – on “free” roads – to avoid paying those tolls.
Road, singular - US 13 is just fine.QuoteSo, more motorists are looking for alternate routes – on “free” roads – to avoid paying those tolls.
Must have been an earlier proposal. It makes sense to have the on-ramp to the west, as it serves US 13 southbound better than a left-hand turn onto Hamburg Road would have.
My family has taken to skipping the Biddles Corner toll plaza by exiting/reentering at the exits on either side of the toll. Doing that for a round trip saves us about $10 when we take two cars.Road, singular - US 13 is just fine.QuoteSo, more motorists are looking for alternate routes – on “free” roads – to avoid paying those tolls.
Road, singular - US 13 is just fine.QuoteSo, more motorists are looking for alternate routes – on “free” roads – to avoid paying those tolls.
How does one shunpike that toll? Take MD Exit 109 for MD (and DE) Route 279 North and then onto DE 4/896 South (College Ave)? :PPrecisely! I've done such for many years.
Could this be the first recognition of DE 279 by DelDOT?
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This is northbound on Elkton Road at Christiana Pkwy, if you couldn't tell from the picture.
Sorry for the bad quality, I had to use a friend's phone because my phone's camera went kaput, and I chose a bad spot on the bus to get a good shot. If anyone else wants to get a better shot of this then please do so.
Could this be the first recognition of DE 279 by DelDOT?
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This is northbound on Elkton Road at Christiana Pkwy, if you couldn't tell from the picture.
Sorry for the bad quality, I had to use a friend's phone because my phone's camera went kaput, and I chose a bad spot on the bus to get a good shot. If anyone else wants to get a better shot of this then please do so.
MDRoads photographed end and begin shields for DE 279 back in March. I'll be checking it out later on this month when I am back in Newark.
I spotted the BEGIN DE-279 on the MD line back in June. There was no END sign going south though.The only END sign is NB, and I saw that many months ago.
I don't take that ramp often so I don't exactly recall the signage for advisory limits, but the driver obviously wasn't taking any precautions approaching this curve.
I don't take that ramp often so I don't exactly recall the signage for advisory limits, but the driver obviously wasn't taking any precautions approaching this curve.
I don't seem to remember a large amount of signage warning of the loop. I take the exit for Red Lion Rd. everyday and there's nothing that's visible from that exit.
I see they still haven't fixed that "East" 896 guide in the second photo.
(http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/de-273_end.jpg)Looks like somebody mixed up which shields get Series C and which ones get Series D. IMHO, the DE 141 numerals should be Series D and the 273 shield should be Series C; the opposite of what's shown.
Delaware 273 was dropped from its needless overlap with Delaware 9 in New Castle. A new end sign was installed where the state route east intersects Delaware 141 north and the turn of Delaware 9 to bypass the city street grid. Signage still remains further east for SR 273 however, including the original end assembly.
Anything fits in a circle if you manipulate it enough!
(http://i.imgur.com/62ilYp0.png)
But 896 shields with other narrow ones never became narrow. Mysteries of DelDOT....Never?
By year's end, truckers again could see cops on the lookout for Delaware Turnpike toll evaders along streets in this area, officials said.
The state Department of Transportation stopped paying for heightened enforcement from Delaware State Police and Newark police in 2007, according to police agencies. New agreements are under discussion.
"It was like as soon as we were gone, the truckers knew," Newark City Manager Carol Houck said. "Our guys just can't be out there all the time."
The Transportation Department is looking to reinstate money for special-duty patrols along routes restricted to local deliveries only, such as Delaware 4 and Old Baltimore Pike, also known as Delaware 281. The goal is to slow declining commercial toll revenues on Interstate 95.
USA Today: Delaware eyes truckers evading tolls on I-95 (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/08/toll-evaders/16922061/)QuoteBy year's end, truckers again could see cops on the lookout for Delaware Turnpike toll evaders along streets in this area, officials said.QuoteThe state Department of Transportation stopped paying for heightened enforcement from Delaware State Police and Newark police in 2007, according to police agencies. New agreements are under discussion.Quote"It was like as soon as we were gone, the truckers knew," Newark City Manager Carol Houck said. "Our guys just can't be out there all the time."QuoteThe Transportation Department is looking to reinstate money for special-duty patrols along routes restricted to local deliveries only, such as Delaware 4 and Old Baltimore Pike, also known as Delaware 281. The goal is to slow declining commercial toll revenues on Interstate 95.
USA Today: Delaware eyes truckers evading tolls on I-95 (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/08/toll-evaders/16922061/)Another article excerpt worth noting posted below (bold emphasis added):QuoteBy year's end, truckers again could see cops on the lookout for Delaware Turnpike toll evaders along streets in this area, officials said.QuoteThe state Department of Transportation stopped paying for heightened enforcement from Delaware State Police and Newark police in 2007, according to police agencies. New agreements are under discussion.Quote"It was like as soon as we were gone, the truckers knew," Newark City Manager Carol Houck said. "Our guys just can't be out there all the time."QuoteThe Transportation Department is looking to reinstate money for special-duty patrols along routes restricted to local deliveries only, such as Delaware 4 and Old Baltimore Pike, also known as Delaware 281. The goal is to slow declining commercial toll revenues on Interstate 95.
The weight restrictions on Delaware 4 aren't because of structural limitations on the bridge but to keep large trucks off the roads, said Mark Luszcz, chief traffic engineer for the state Transportation Department.In short, the restrictions weren't safety-driven but rather revenue-driven (surprise-surprise).
"The reason there's a truck restriction on Route 4 is because the viable route is I-95," Luszcz said.
That's what happens when you're too stupid to put in proper ramp plazas on your tollway. Put in ramp plazas that decrease in toll the further you get from the mainline toll plaza, and a lot of the problem will solve itself.Like other toll facilities, that plaza & its related-tolls were likely originally supposed to be torn down & gone after the original bonds that built the highway were paid off. The tolls only existed to expedite the construction of the road. The interchange ramp tolls were eliminated in 1976.
Delaware did charge at one time to exit at all the ramps leading up to the tolls. They were stupid to remove them not to think about installing them.Again, the road was likely destined to be free of all tolls (hence the I-95 shields) when the original bonds were paid off. Plus, the tolls (in terms of dollar amount) were a lot lower back then (10-cent, 25-cent tolls). The shun-piking en masse started in October 2007 when the current tolls rates took effect and the EZ-Pass discounts were eliminated.
I'd argue shun-piking went *down* since they added the Express lanes, as one can get from Exit 1 in Delaware to Exit 109 in Maryland in about 2 minutes, versus the 10 or so minute detour shunpiking would require.From the article:
Transactions fell 8% for the largest commercial category – 5-axle tractor-trailers – during the fiscal year ending June 30 and are down by 25% when compared to 2006 traffic. Overall commercial toll revenue was down by more than $2 million – 7.5% – from 2013, according to state data.
Delaware did charge at one time to exit at all the ramps leading up to the tolls. They were stupid to remove them not to think about installing them.
For those that take the road every day, it's probably worthwhile to detour. $8 a day round trip is $180 or so a month for a normal worker. Even more dramatic with truckers, which can be a $400 monthly expenditure.
I'd argue shun-piking went *down* since they added the Express lanes, as one can get from Exit 1 in Delaware to Exit 109 in Maryland in about 2 minutes, versus the 10 or so minute detour shunpiking would require.From the article:QuoteTransactions fell 8% for the largest commercial category – 5-axle tractor-trailers – during the fiscal year ending June 30 and are down by 25% when compared to 2006 traffic. Overall commercial toll revenue was down by more than $2 million – 7.5% – from 2013, according to state data.
The comparison didn't go into that particular detail (re: EZ-Pass Express Lanes) but nonetheless; shunpiking has indeed increased since the tolls went up and the EZ-Pass discounted were eliminated (for I-95 only, not DE 1).
In Delaware, all of the tolls on the ramps were for traffic entering northbound and exiting southbound. The Delaware Turnpike tolls were at present-day Exits 1, 3, and 4. I don't think there were any ramp tolls at Exit 5. They have been gone for a long time (the Delaware ramp tolls were removed in the 1970's, I think), but I recall the ramp tolls being very low, 5¢, 10¢, 15¢, 20¢ or maybe 25¢ at the most.As posted earlier, the ramp tolls in Delaware were removed in 1976.
But is truck traffic down in general? How does it compare to MD or NJ? And how do traffic volumes compare on the alternative routes?The article (originally from a Delaware source, The Wilmington News Journal) is only focusing on the I-95 toll situation in Delaware and only Delaware. The comparisons are based on when DelDOT raised the tolls (& dropped the EZ-Pass discounts) at the Newark Plaza in 2007.
Not only did MD & NJ not raise their tolls in 2007 (they only raised them within the last 3 years) but they didn't double them within a 3-year period as well like DelDOT did.
Depends on what road you mean when you are talking about MD. If you mean the JFK toll plaza, it didn't quite double. However, the Baltimore bridge/tunnel tolls did double in about a 3-year period (from $2 to $4 each way).
Prior to July 1, 2013, the base toll rate for the Baltimore Bridges/Tunnels was $3 each-way. The increase from $2 to $3 for the Baltimore crossings occurred in 2003; a 10-year period.Not only did MD & NJ not raise their tolls in 2007 (they only raised them within the last 3 years) but they didn't double them within a 3-year period as well like DelDOT did.
Depends on what road you mean when you are talking about MD. If you mean the JFK toll plaza, it didn't quite double. However, the Baltimore bridge/tunnel tolls did double in about a 3-year period (from $2 to $4 each way).
Prior to 2005, the base toll for the Newark Plaza was $2 each-way. It went up to $3 in 2005 and then up to $4 in 2007. Again, the latter increase 86ed all EZ-Pass discounts.
Not only did MD & NJ not raise their tolls in 2007 (they only raised them within the last 3 years) but they didn't double them within a 3-year period as well like DelDOT did. Since the reasoning for the increased shumpiking among trucks in DE is directly related to the exorbitant I-95 tolls in DE; comparing increased shunpiking rates & patterns for MD and/or NJ in this particular case is comparing apples & oranges.
What I'm trying to say though is, is there a corresponding increase in shunpiking? The article mentioned 5 axle trailer revenue is down by 8%. Is that entire 8% shunpiking? Or were there fewer trucks on the road to begin with.While I agree in principle with most of what you just posted; there are several things to note:
What are the traffic counts on the shunpike routes? That would be extremely important to know as well.
That's where the relevance of NJ & MD truck traffic comes in. If truck traffic in NJ & MD was down by 5% in those states, and 8% in Delaware, then it can be reasonably concluded that shunpiking increased by 3%, not 8% as the article is trying to indicate, even if you don't use traffic counts.
Newspapers in general tend to focus on their own states' data. And depending on how they are trying to angle the story, they would include or exclude other data. In this case, it would be prudent to know how much truck traffic is out there in general. Heck - if truck traffic was down 10% in MD & NJ, but only 8% in DE, then it would point out that shunpiking may not have increased at all.
Toll revenues from the Newark plaza on I-95 slipped during the recession and haven't recovered like other comparable highways in the region, said Brian Motyl, assistant director of finance for the Delaware Transportation Department.While it could be argued that the above-quote is more of a catch-all (aka CYA) statement; it's clearly insinuating that the toll revenue collected at the Newark Plaza is not seeing similar revenue trends as other toll plazas.
Revenues for Delaware 1, which is a 51-mile toll road from Dover Air Force Base north to I-95, have not followed the same trend.
Does it not come to a quarter a mile with the 4 bucks? I once read that it is the most expensive toll road in the nation.
Of course that was a few years back, so someone else might of took that title away if it was true when it was posted on Wikipedia.
Officials last week signed new agreements for 13 weeks of "enhanced enforcement" of toll evasion by heavy trucks and commercial vehicles along Del. 4/Christiana Parkway, and Del. 896 — routes restricted to local deliveries only.
The Delaware Department of Transportation hopes that reimplementing the enforcement will slow the decline of commercial toll revenues on I-95, which haven't recovered from the recession as have other tolled highways in the area, officials say.
Technically the $4 toll covers the entire 11-mile Delaware Turnpike, not just the segment between the state line and Exit 1. Same is said for the Susquehanna River Bridge toll for the JFK Memorial Highway in Maryland.
(as IMO they should be in both Maryland and Delaware)
(as IMO they should be in both Maryland and Delaware)
As a local who uses I-95 pretty much everyday, I'd rather not fork over change anytime I want to use the road to head south.
Where is the official end of DE 273?It ends multiplexed with 9 east of 141.
I found eastbound end signage in two places: at the intersection with 141 and 9 and at the intersection with just 9.
Basically, the higher the toll, the more people want to avoid the toll.
The lower the extra distance to bypass the toll, the greater the number of people who will bypass the toll.
The Newark, DE toll crossing is relatively high ($4) and is fairly easy way to avoid, so there will be a lot of shunpiking.
Technically the $4 toll covers the entire 11-mile Delaware Turnpike, not just the segment between the state line and Exit 1. Same is said for the Susquehanna River Bridge toll for the JFK Memorial Highway in Maryland.
I would buy that if the ramp tolls were still there (as IMO they should be in both Maryland and Delaware).
But given that the ramp tolls in Delaware were removed in the mid-1970's and in Maryland in the early 1980's, then there is just one link on each highway that is actually tolled (and Maryland made matters worse by only tolling one direction at that one point).
Where is the official end of DE 273?
I found eastbound end signage in two places: at the intersection with 141 and 9 and at the intersection with just 9.
DelDOT rebuilt the intersection of 273 and 141 recently. New signage reflects this as the new eastern end of DE-273 with DE-9 continuing down Frenchtown Road solo. Interestingly they relocated some older signs rather than all new installs. Photos soon.
(as IMO they should be in both Maryland and Delaware)
As a local who uses I-95 pretty much everyday, I'd rather not fork over change anytime I want to use the road to head south.
So use E-ZPass - or take U.S. 40.
New signage reflects the logical end. Has the official definition followed suit?Where is the official end of DE 273?
I found eastbound end signage in two places: at the intersection with 141 and 9 and at the intersection with just 9.
I posted about this also on October 3 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2010861#msg2010861). I based my earlier comments on the new end sign based upon an email from Bob Chessick on August 24th:QuoteDelDOT rebuilt the intersection of 273 and 141 recently. New signage reflects this as the new eastern end of DE-273 with DE-9 continuing down Frenchtown Road solo. Interestingly they relocated some older signs rather than all new installs. Photos soon.
However I also saw the remaining DE 273 shields. Thankfully the second of two narrow width shields for DE 273 (http://www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=DE19702731) remains opposite the east end.
The overlap was created when DE 9 was routed around New Castle.
When I said south I didn't mean southbound into Maryland, I meant south into Bear or Glasgow. Its far easier to take I-95 from 273 to 896 to get to Glasgow and points south, or I-95 from 273 to 1/7 to get to Bear and points south than it is to take surface arteries.(as IMO they should be in both Maryland and Delaware)
As a local who uses I-95 pretty much everyday, I'd rather not fork over change anytime I want to use the road to head south.
So use E-ZPass - or take U.S. 40.
Isn't Eastbound 40 towards Havre de Grace also tolled across the Susquehanna? Or is this another section you're referring to?
I don't know if DelDOT has official definitions. The closest thing I can find is the traffic counts, which even [http://www.deldot.gov/information/pubs_forms/manuals/traffic_counts/2001/pdf/ts2001_21_41.pdf in 2001] showed 273 ending at 141 (typoed as 41). (Yes, it does show overlaps.) But this could have been the decision of whoever was compiling the traffic counts.
And quite frankly, introducing ramp tolls in Delaware would either exacerbate the already bad traffic on ramps along the Turnpike or force traffic onto surface arteries and worsen the already bad traffic there.
I drove through Stanton today and noticed that the 12-8-8 signals on DE 4 at Stanton Rd are all getting replaced. The switch has been completed eastbound, but for westbound the old signals are still in operation while the new signals are covered. The picture I got wasn't fantastic as the sun was in the way, but one thing that's noticeable is the massive size of the pole supporting the mast.
(http://i.imgur.com/YucRo9Mh.jpg)
Basically, the higher the toll, the more people want to avoid the toll.
The lower the extra distance to bypass the toll, the greater the number of people who will bypass the toll.
The Newark, DE toll crossing is relatively high ($4) and is fairly easy way to avoid, so there will be a lot of shunpiking.Technically the $4 toll covers the entire 11-mile Delaware Turnpike, not just the segment between the state line and Exit 1. Same is said for the Susquehanna River Bridge toll for the JFK Memorial Highway in Maryland.
I would buy that if the ramp tolls were still there (as IMO they should be in both Maryland and Delaware).
But given that the ramp tolls in Delaware were removed in the mid-1970's and in Maryland in the early 1980's, then there is just one link on each highway that is actually tolled (and Maryland made matters worse by only tolling one direction at that one point).
Keep in mind that a lot of the traffic passing through DE on I-95 is not local, but long haul traffic. I drive up north to NJ/NY/New England fairly often for one reason or another. Using the "normal" route...I-95, I-295, NJ Turnpike, Lincoln Tunnel, it costs $66.10 in tolls ($13 Lincoln Tunnel EB, $12.55 NJ Turnpike each way, $4 Delaware Memorial Bridge WB, $4 Delaware Turnpike each way, $8 Tydings Bridge NB, $4 Fort McHenry Tunnel each way). If you pay with E-ZPass, you get a $2 or $4 discount at the Holland Tunnel depending on time of day. Regardless, $66.10, $64.10, or $62.10 is A LOT of money for tolls. Can you really blame people for looking for ways to cut that cost down a bit? Delaware has the unfortunate distinction of being the only one of those that is very easy to bypass.
The $8 at the Tyding Bridge is also fairly simple to avoid, but requires a little upfront planning. You need to get a Maryland E-ZPass account and purchase the "Hatem Bridge Plan" for $20. This allows unlimited use of the parallel Hatem Bridge on US 40 for one year. Hmm...$8 per trip, or $20 per year with a fairly simple detour? Sign me up for the latter, please. Anyone can do it, regardless of where you live, but of course Maryland doesn't exacly want a lot of people to sign up for it, so they don't advertise it much outside of the local area of Harford and Cecil counties. I took the requisite 3 trips to break even within 6 weeks of the plan's renewal date this year, giving me "free" passage until next June.
So doing the Hatem detour one way and the I-95 Neward detour both ways saves $16. Then use I-295 in NJ instead of the Turnpike as far as Exit 4 or 7A and you save another $2.80 to $4.50 each way. Get off the Turnpike at Exit 11 to US 22 to Pulaski Skyway (well, when it is open EB), and you save even more on Turnpike tolls. All combined, it takes maybe 20/25 minutes longer, essentially keeps the same route, and saves $37 in round trip tolls. For someone who doesn't drive the route often, it seems silly to bypass the tolls like that. But for someone who travels that way every few weeks, the savings adds up very quickly.
But now, fuhgettaboutit! I've decided that unless I want to see the highway progress on some of the consturction projects like 295/76 or the ETLs on I-95 north of Baltimore, I'm going to do the "long arc" and avoid all tolls (except for crossing the Hudson and a $1 toll westbound in Easton,PA) by going through York, Lancaster, Reading , and Allentown. Yes it's more miles, but generally very few traffic holdups and would probably take less time than all the necessary shunpiking to keep costs in line. In fact, in today's Washington Post (in an annual post he does this time of year discussing holiday getaways), Dr. Gridlock mentioned the routing through Harrisburg as a way to avoid the crawl along I-95 heading to NY and New England.
a $1 toll westbound in Easton,PAEh, this is one of the easier tolls to bypass in a car. Don't know if the added time is worth it.
Before DE 1 how would people access the beach towns? US 13 perhaps?https://www.aaroads.com/delaware/road_maps.htm
Before DE 1 how would people access the beach towns? US 13 perhaps?https://www.aaroads.com/delaware/road_maps.htm
Does anyone have the story behind this awkward pavement shift on DE 896 south just after US 40? Is it a simple misalignment, or is this leftover from some grand plan for future expansion?
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5966334,-75.7387437,303m/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5966334,-75.7387437,303m/data=!3m1!1e3)
The road shifts the equivelant of two lanes to the left though, so I don't think it's related to Porter Road. Given that map of alternatives, I'm actually wondering if it has something to do with the alternatives leading to I-95. The angle of the shift seems to match up with the alternatives that cross US 40 to the east.
This actually brings up another question, would those alternatives tie into the Pike Creek Expressway should the two have actually been built? There's a trail of ROW leading from I-95 east of DE 72 to about DE 2 / Harmony Road, crossing near the DE 273 / 4 interchange. I'm assuming this has to do with the cancelled Pike Creek project, but I've never seen any alignment maps. Does anyone happen to have any?
Wow. The routing for that ends next to my neighborhood, I wonder how the area would've changed had this have actually been built. I also think the terminus is kind of odd, wouldn't it make sense to try to link this to DE 7 and eventually PA 41 to help establish a more defined route for northward traffic?
Also of note are the apparent grand plans for the Newtown / Reybold Road corridor. I had no clue they extended to 896 and beyond.
Wow. The routing for that ends next to my neighborhood, I wonder how the area would've changed had this have actually been built. I also think the terminus is kind of odd, wouldn't it make sense to try to link this to DE 7 and eventually PA 41 to help establish a more defined route for northward traffic?
Also of note are the apparent grand plans for the Newtown / Reybold Road corridor. I had no clue they extended to 896 and beyond.
I will have to find the disc with the entire map scan on it and upload a copy for you. The Pike Creek Freeway extended northward as an arterial to New Linden Road. Can you imagine trying to build that along the path of Upper Pike Creek Road? What a mammoth undertaking it would have been.
Forgot to mention this earlier, work on the Thompsonville Road interchange on DE 1 started a few days back:
http://www.deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=5427 (http://www.deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=5427)
I've noticed that every bridge over I-95 in DE from the Maryland state line to the 95/495/295/141 interchange is long enough for an NJTP-style expansion. All loop ramps seem to have a jog where they meet the mainline, as if to line up more with the outer carriageways. Also, the DE 1 interchange's old SB collector-distributor has a three-lane wide bridge, despite the C/D road only being two lanes between the loops.
It's as if it were planned to be 2-4-4-2, like I-270 in MD. Clearly it's no longer planned, as the new DE 1 flyovers completely block where it could go, but does anyone know when it was planned, and if any widening at all is still considered? Also, if there would be any major reconfigurations, have any plans been published?
Also, if it were ever a plan, would MD have done anything besides an eight-lane widening that some of the bridges seem to be designed for?
DelDOT has accelerated plans to rework the Del. 72 interchange along Del. 1 to create a “diverging” traffic pattern along on Wrangle Hill Road overpass. The $7.6 million design will eliminate traffic lights at the top of the off-ramps.
"DelDOT has accelerated plans to rework the Del. 72 interchange along Del. 1 to create a “diverging” traffic pattern along on Wrangle Hill Road overpass. The $7.6 million design will eliminate traffic lights at the top of the off-ramps."
With the exception of the big traffic light signs on the proposed drawing, of course.
Also noted... Rt. 1 is 4 lanes per direction in the video.
It's about time! Delaware is bumping the speed limit on I-95 between the Maryland line and I-495 to 65 MPH.
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/traffic/2015/02/24/delaware-speeds/23953659/ (http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/traffic/2015/02/24/delaware-speeds/23953659/)
It's about time! Delaware is bumping the speed limit on I-95 between the Maryland line and I-495 to 65 MPH.
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/traffic/2015/02/24/delaware-speeds/23953659/ (http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/traffic/2015/02/24/delaware-speeds/23953659/)
As best as I can tell, much of I-95 between Baltimore City and the Delaware/Pennsylvania border (using I-495 to bypass downtown Wilmington) could have and probably should have a speed limit of 70 or even 75 MPH.
Finally!
At least the law is already 65 mph, so it's relatively easy to raise the speed limit to that.
Next thu can work with the DRBA to raise the ultra-low 50 mph in its jurisdiction.
PA will have to raise their speed limit next to 65. It is an unreasonable 55, even if it's traveling through the Philly area.
PA will have to raise their speed limit next to 65. It is an unreasonable 55, even if it's traveling through the Philly area.
DelDOT plans to truncate DE 41 at DE 2 and apparently redo DE 62's directional orientation between DE 2 and Boxwood Road. (I never noticed that the signed directions differed along there, hm.)
http://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/de2_41/index.shtml (http://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/de2_41/index.shtml)
Opinions?
Personally, I'd rather them delete DE 62 altogether and extend DE 41 down to DE 4. I don't think Boxwood Road needs a route number, and having two separate numbers serving either side of the Newport Gap Pike seems redundant.
Where was it ever signed north/south?
Where was it ever signed north/south?
According to the signing plan they'll be removing or clarifying one or two South DE 62 signs (depending on how you interpret it) from DE 2 east approaching the intersection.
(http://i.imgur.com/s1WM4Fm.png)
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Another signing plan shows some possible changes for Delaware 141 ranging from simple greenouts over DE 41/Lancaster to new guide signs for Exit 6/Delaware 2:
One potential change will remove the lone Delaware reference of Freeway Ends and replace it with the more typical Expressway Ends.
Isn't freeway the more appropriate terminology here though? I tend to think of expressways as being near-freeways, but not quite.
Also, RIP 'Must Exit'
In addition, truck traffic destined for Route 41 in Pennsylvania is traveling further out of its way to continue on DE Route 41 between DE Route 141 and the DE Route 2/41/62 intersection rather than continue north on DE Route 141 to DE Route 48 (Lancaster Pike).
Per: http://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/de2_41/index.shtml (http://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/de2_41/index.shtml)QuoteIn addition, truck traffic destined for Route 41 in Pennsylvania is traveling further out of its way to continue on DE Route 41 between DE Route 141 and the DE Route 2/41/62 intersection rather than continue north on DE Route 141 to DE Route 48 (Lancaster Pike).
Using Google Maps, using 141 to 48 to 41 takes 1.3 miles longer than using 141 to 2 to 41. Why would DelDOT say that trucks are going out of their way using 2 to 41 when it's clearly the shorter route? (And the route that trucking companies are going to pay their drivers)
In addition, truck traffic destined for Route 41 in Pennsylvania is traveling further out of its way to continue on DE Route 41 between DE Route 141 and the DE Route 2/41/62 intersection rather than continue north on DE Route 141 to DE Route 48 (Lancaster Pike).
State highway engineers are quietly rolling out plans for a scaled-back bypass around northeast Millsboro, spinning the project off from a larger and still bitterly contested proposal to relocate much of U.S. 113 in southernmost Sussex County.
DelDOT officials plan to brief Millsboro's Town Council on the approach Monday, with public workshop likely to follow, according to Geoff Sundstrom, spokeman for the agency. Officials have yet to make maps public, however.
The updated, two-lane approach would link Del. 24 east of Millsboro to U.S. 113 north of the town, crossing tributaries of Millsboro Pond just south of the state-owned, 315-acre Doe Bridge Nature Preserve. The new lanes would provide an alternative for north and west-bound now forced to crawl through Millsboro’s central business district, producing long backups.
Carrie Bennett, whose family owns Frankford-area orchards that would have been lost to the original major highway proposal, said many Frankford, Dagsboro and Selbyville residents will be relieved.
“It was a poorly designed, billion dollar boondoggle of a plan which did nothing to alleviate traffic,” Bennett said. “It just rerouted it and carved up 16 miles of wetlands, farmland and historic minority communities.”
QuoteCarrie Bennett, whose family owns Frankford-area orchards that would have been lost to the original major highway proposal, said many Frankford, Dagsboro and Selbyville residents will be relieved.
“It was a poorly designed, billion dollar boondoggle of a plan which did nothing to alleviate traffic,” Bennett said. “It just rerouted it and carved up 16 miles of wetlands, farmland and historic minority communities.”
Really? A full freeway isn't going to alleviate congestion at all? A full freeway would bypass the traffic lights, low speed limits, and narrow streets of Millsboro. These people are just bitter that they had a highway proposed through their land.
QuoteCarrie Bennett, whose family owns Frankford-area orchards that would have been lost to the original major highway proposal, said many Frankford, Dagsboro and Selbyville residents will be relieved.
“It was a poorly designed, billion dollar boondoggle of a plan which did nothing to alleviate traffic,” Bennett said. “It just rerouted it and carved up 16 miles of wetlands, farmland and historic minority communities.”
Really? A full freeway isn't going to alleviate congestion at all? A full freeway would bypass the traffic lights, low speed limits, and narrow streets of Millsboro. These people are just bitter that they had a highway proposed through their land.
She wants to hold out until a developer offers her a can't-refuse-deal to turn her orchards into an 800-home subdivision...
In LSD (Lower Slower Delaware), the assumption is that all traffic wants to go north/south, and going east/west is irrelevant. So I give DelDOT credit for trying to look a generation into the future on US113, but not for leaving EW routes like DE404, 20, 26, 54 as 2 lane nightmares.
Most of the people in the article are NIMBYs as they are complaining about forced government being DelDOT is going behind their backs to getting the unpopular bypass of Milford built. In this case its a greedy land owner holding out, but if they do not let the state improve the road system now, they will bitch later about not enough roads around to handle upgraded sprawl.
Map of what I understand is being abandoned:
(http://i.imgur.com/bkdbydb.jpg)
Map of what I understand is being abandoned:
(http://i.imgur.com/bkdbydb.jpg)
Could DelDOT motivated to get rid of this segment because of increased oil train traffic to the refinery and the grade crossing at the south end of the segment proposed for abandonment?
Map of what I understand is being abandoned:
(http://i.imgur.com/bkdbydb.jpg)
Could DelDOT motivated to get rid of this segment because of increased oil train traffic to the refinery and the grade crossing at the south end of the segment proposed for abandonment?
I'm glad at least a couple of alternatives deal with the tight weave on the other side involving I-95 NB to DE 273 EB.Not to mention they give DE 273 EB a deserved 2+ lanes of thru traffic.
Taking away the free-flow movement and replacing it with traffic signals just seems like a horrible idea to me.It really is. The only possibly beneficial signal is the proposed WB only one.
Otherwise, I dislike most of these options. That weave concern has always been there, but its mostly an issue during the evening peak hours. You learn to anticipate it and make adjustments to compensate.
65mph now posted along I-95, drove it today from 295 to the MD border.
65mph now posted along I-95, drove it today from 295 to the MD border.
How fast was traffic moving on the whole?
65mph now posted along I-95, drove it today from 295 to the MD border.
How fast was traffic moving on the whole?
On the whole, the speed limit felt good.
70 at least.
Yo guys, I'm making another control city proposal for Delaware.In my opinion our control cities are perfectly reasonable as they are, but I'll just pick out the glaring issues:
I-95 SB: New York up to MP 13.3Traffic headed south is not going to New York because, well, that's the complete opposite direction.
DE 1 NB: Philadelphia and New York up to MP 103What happened to Wilmington?
SB: Atlantic City up to MP 91.9No one using DE 1 SB is going to Atlantic City. AC traffic would've used the Delaware Memorial Bridge.
"Atlantic City" on DE 1 SB is because at exit 94 (I think), DE 1 intersects US 13. US 13 later intersects US 9. Using US 9 EB takes you to the Cape May-Lewes ferry. On the Cape May side, US 9 NB intersects US 30. US 30 EB heads to AC. Basically call it a second chance for lost drivers intended to go there.
Wilmington disappeared in favor of Philadelphia, since Wilmington is pretty close from the I-95 interchange. Philadelphia seemed sensible here.
The "New York" destination at MP 13.3 is that that is the I-295 interchange. I-295 NB will merge on to the NJ Turnpike (briefly) after the Delaware Memorial Bridge. You can continue onto the NJ Turnpike towards New York. That's pretty much your last reminder south of New York City telling you that there is another way to NY and NYC.
65mph now posted along I-95, drove it today from 295 to the MD border.
How fast was traffic moving on the whole?
On the whole, the speed limit felt good.
70 at least.
The cops are out in force as a result though. They all wait at the entrance to I-95 SB at the service area and nab people after the underpass for Salem Church Road. There were three of them with people pulled over within a span of about 100 feet when I went through this morning, and at least four or five more were watching from the service area exit.
SB: Baltimore up to MP 23.4Suggestion: when using southbound references, use the word down instead of up; especially since milesposts decrease as one heads southbound.
SB: Baltimore down to MP 23.4Such makes your posts regarding southbound destination legends much easier to read/follow.
The Overbrook Town Center shopping complex, if approved by Sussex County, would likely take six years to be fully constructed, an attorney for the project's developer said Tuesday. The developer said a key highway interchange for it could cost $15 million, about twice the amount the company will put towards its construction.
Rob Arlett, another councilmember, said he's heard from plenty of constituents with traffic concerns. The developer has consulted with the Department of Transportation and designed a new interchange for Cave Neck Road and Del. 1, including an overpass and traffic flow that would move cars turning west onto Cave Neck Road through the shopping center's side roads.
Louis A. DiBitonto, a Trout Development principal, reiterated the company's previous pledge to spend $8 million on the interchange. But he told Arlett the company would not agree to increase its spending for the overpass to match its true cost, which he said was estimated to be $12 million to $15 million.
Without a developer subsidy, of course, any interchange there would be funded wholly by DelDOT's taxpayer dollars; however, DelDOT does not have any near-term plans to build a Cave Neck Road interchange on its own.
The project seems to be decidedly unpopular in Sussex County. Lawrence Lank, the county's director of planning and zoning, said his office received 1,890 missives in opposition to it, compared to seven letters and emails supporting it. Opponents crowded into the county meeting room for the hearing, some wearing buttons that read "I say no to OTC."
I drove all of 95 in Delaware on Monday evening, except between the MD State Line and Exit 1, DE 896. (No, I wasn't shunpiking...I was at an event near that road). Since it was rush hour and raining heavily, I managed to hit 65 mph for about a mile along that entire stretch.
I drove all of 95 in Delaware on Monday evening, except between the MD State Line and Exit 1, DE 896. (No, I wasn't shunpiking...I was at an event near that road). Since it was rush hour and raining heavily, I managed to hit 65 mph for about a mile along that entire stretch.
Nothing wrong with shunpiking. Hell I managed to shunpike the entire Mid-Atlantic portion of 95 over the weekend coming back from Virginia. Makes for a little more fun drive.
Shunpiking is done to avoid tolls. There are no tolls on 81 & 13 in those areas.
Of course, you can't really shunpike the George Washington Bridge as there is no way south of Albany where you can cross the Husdon River for free unless you go westbound.the Tappan Zee toll is half that of the GW, and for all intents and purposes counts as a shunpike.
In Delaware and Maryland shunpiking these days is a must! The tolls there are too damn ridiculous.
If things have not changed that much over the last two decades, the Bear Mountain Bridge is even cheaper yet.Of course, you can't really shunpike the George Washington Bridge as there is no way south of Albany where you can cross the Husdon River for free unless you go westbound.the Tappan Zee toll is half that of the GW, and for all intents and purposes counts as a shunpike.
The tolls there are too damn ridiculous.
In Delaware and Maryland shunpiking these days is a must! The tolls there are too damn ridiculous.
Exactly. The 95 bridge over the Susquehanna is the worst heading north. $8 is crazy and actually driving up to and over the Conowingo Dam is pretty scenic.
Shunpiking is done to avoid tolls. There are no tolls on 81 & 13 in those areas.
At this point it's just sight-seeing.
Shunpiking is done to avoid tolls. There are no tolls on 81 & 13 in those areas.
At this point it's just sight-seeing.
As ekt said a few posts back, "Makes for a little more fun drive." (Although assuming he used the Chesapeake Bay Bridge, he would've paid the Eastern Shore-bound toll there so it wouldn't have been a pure shunpike.) Maybe it should be called "sixty-sixing" or "66-ing" (think Bobby Troup's favorite road).
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of course the famous 279-4-896 one
Of course, you can't really shunpike the George Washington Bridge as there is no way south of Albany where you can cross the Husdon River for free unless you go westbound.the Tappan Zee toll is half that of the GW, and for all intents and purposes counts as a shunpike.
So within the past month or so, DelDOT replaced the signals at Kirkwood Highway (DE 2) and Cleveland Avenue in Newark. They didn't just replace them with poles and leave the configuration as it was before the work was done, instead they ended up setting up split-phasing for DE 2 for the sake of adding a second left turn lane on DE 2 EB. There was no room to widen DE 2 due to the proximity of the CSX underpass south of the intersection, and traffic was constantly tied up due to the amount of people attempting to turn left onto Cleveland Avenue WB. Is this the first notable example in Delaware of the through movement being given split-phasing at a simple four way intersection?
(http://i.imgur.com/X4mvgKx.jpg)
These signals look like something out of New York, they had to lower them due to sight limitations from the underpass.
(facing EB)
(http://i.imgur.com/Pn2MRcy.jpg)
So within the past month or so, DelDOT replaced the signals at Kirkwood Highway (DE 2) and Cleveland Avenue in Newark. They didn't just replace them with poles and leave the configuration as it was before the work was done, instead they ended up setting up split-phasing for DE 2 for the sake of adding a second left turn lane on DE 2 EB. There was no room to widen DE 2 due to the proximity of the CSX underpass south of the intersection, and traffic was constantly tied up due to the amount of people attempting to turn left onto Cleveland Avenue WB. Is this the first notable example in Delaware of the through movement being given split-phasing at a simple four way intersection?
(http://i.imgur.com/X4mvgKx.jpg)
These signals look like something out of New York, they had to lower them due to sight limitations from the underpass.
(facing EB)
(http://i.imgur.com/Pn2MRcy.jpg)
How is traffic as a result of the change? Generally, split-phasing in a similar manner leads to heavy backups on the main road.
I did a double-take on the Delaware Memorial Bridge the other night. It seriously looked like the Delaware tower of the NB span was replaced with two unconnected concrete poles!Funny, I drove over that last night too. The amount of scaffolding they're using for this is unbelievable. I should've gotten some pictures.
Actually, the tower is being draped in a cloth-covered scaffolding so it can receive a coat of a special (newfangled?) steel-protecting paint. But at night, and from the other span, it looked like two square concrete columns, since the connecting part at the top was not well lit.
http://www.nj.com/south-jersey-voices/index.ssf/2015/06/the_scoop_help_set_a_record_ha.html (http://www.nj.com/south-jersey-voices/index.ssf/2015/06/the_scoop_help_set_a_record_ha.html)
It'd be nice if there was a more major route that allowed you to jump from to US 301 from US 13 in the Dover area and vice-versa, but there's not really a need for it.
None seen as far as I could find on DelDOT's website. There's no projects that have to do with major bridge crossings (crossing Delaware Bay) being built in Kent County.It'd be nice if there was a more major route that allowed you to jump from to US 301 from US 13 in the Dover area and vice-versa, but there's not really a need for it.
On a more serious note, is a Delaware Bay crossing near Dover ever actually been considered? Is it even possible?
None seen as far as I could find on DelDOT's website. There's no projects that have to do with major bridge crossings (crossing Delaware Bay) being built in Kent County.It'd be nice if there was a more major route that allowed you to jump from to US 301 from US 13 in the Dover area and vice-versa, but there's not really a need for it.
On a more serious note, is a Delaware Bay crossing near Dover ever actually been considered? Is it even possible?
None seen as far as I could find on DelDOT's website. There's no projects that have to do with major bridge crossings (crossing Delaware Bay) being built in Kent County.It'd be nice if there was a more major route that allowed you to jump from to US 301 from US 13 in the Dover area and vice-versa, but there's not really a need for it.
On a more serious note, is a Delaware Bay crossing near Dover ever actually been considered? Is it even possible?
I'm well aware nothing's being considered right now. I asked if it's been considered historically.
$ 8.00 on the I-95 Bridge over the "Suzy Q" River from Md. to Del. ?!! Who the ? What the ? ARE THEY CRAZY ??!!!! HECK !!! From the Delaware Memorial Bridge traveling the ENTIRE N.J. Turnpike up to either EXITS 16E or 18E (110 Miles) is $9.35 . They better get it together in Maryland. That's a pure RIP OFF !!!
$ 8.00 on the I-95 Bridge over the "Suzy Q" River from Md. to Del. ?!! Who the ? What the ? ARE THEY CRAZY ??!!!! HECK !!! From the Delaware Memorial Bridge traveling the ENTIRE N.J. Turnpike up to either EXITS 16E or 18E (110 Miles) is $9.35 . They better get it together in Maryland. That's a pure RIP OFF !!!
Besides what Jeff said, that toll at the Susquehanna also supports ALL of I-95 from Baltimore to the Delaware line. MdTA (the toll agency) maintains that entire stretch of I-95...not SHA.It's also worth noting that the toll along the parallel Thomas J. Hatem Memorial Bridge (US 40) is also $8 (one-way eastbound). I believe the MdTA maintains that bridge as well.
It's also worth noting that the toll along the parallel Thomas J. Hatem Memorial Bridge (US 40) is also $8 (one-way eastbound). I believe the MdTA maintains that bridge as well.
Unless otherwise noted (one of the MD-area AARoaders can confirm/clarify); it's a reasonably logical assumption that if MdTA maintains the bridge, the monies (most if not all) collected from the tolls on that bridge goes to them.Quote from: PHLBOSIt's also worth noting that the toll along the parallel Thomas J. Hatem Memorial Bridge (US 40) is also $8 (one-way eastbound). I believe the MdTA maintains that bridge as well.Not sure about the toll, but yes MdTA maintains the Hatem Bridge too.
Unless otherwise noted (one of the MD-area AARoaders can confirm/clarify); it's a reasonably logical assumption that if MdTA maintains the bridge, the monies (most if not all) collected from the tolls on that bridge goes to them.Quote from: PHLBOSIt's also worth noting that the toll along the parallel Thomas J. Hatem Memorial Bridge (US 40) is also $8 (one-way eastbound). I believe the MdTA maintains that bridge as well.Not sure about the toll, but yes MdTA maintains the Hatem Bridge too.
Delaware’s spending on road projects is expected to rival pre-recession expenditures after a legislative deal allowed transportation officials to move forward on long-planned projects that include an overpass in Frederica, the widening of Del. 1 near the Roth Bridge, and an expanded rail station in Newark.
Delaware funds its capital projects with a mix of state and federal money, but for the next several years the state is expected to spend more of its own money on road construction than it has in years.
The increase in spending, laid out in an estimated $3.4 billion capital transportation plan for 2017 through 2022, will go toward projects that would rid potholes from busy streets, keep aging bridges from crumbling and expanding current routes throughout the state.
Some of those projects include:
- $41.7 million to improve the ramps at the I-95 and SR 141 interchange
- $261 million project to widen Del. 1 from the intersection of SR 273, along the Roth Bridge, to U.S. 13/Tybouts Corner and SR 72
- $29.3 million for the South Frederica overpass that would provide access to the proposed Kent County Sports Complex
- $3.1 million for a connector from Del. 1 to New Road in Lewes to alleviate traffic heading into the beach town
DelDOT to spend more cash than before with new projects (http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/local/2015/08/04/deldot-spend-cash-new-projects/31136201/)$261 million dollars, see! These palookas! Look at them spending all of this money willy nilly, see! Disgraceful!QuoteDelaware’s spending on road projects is expected to rival pre-recession expenditures after a legislative deal allowed transportation officials to move forward on long-planned projects that include an overpass in Frederica, the widening of Del. 1 near the Roth Bridge, and an expanded rail station in Newark.
Delaware funds its capital projects with a mix of state and federal money, but for the next several years the state is expected to spend more of its own money on road construction than it has in years.
The increase in spending, laid out in an estimated $3.4 billion capital transportation plan for 2017 through 2022, will go toward projects that would rid potholes from busy streets, keep aging bridges from crumbling and expanding current routes throughout the state.
Some of those projects include:
- $41.7 million to improve the ramps at the I-95 and SR 141 interchange
- $261 million project to widen Del. 1 from the intersection of SR 273, along the Roth Bridge, to U.S. 13/Tybouts Corner and SR 72
- $29.3 million for the South Frederica overpass that would provide access to the proposed Kent County Sports Complex
- $3.1 million for a connector from Del. 1 to New Road in Lewes to alleviate traffic heading into the beach town
So when the DE 1 widening is all done, it's going to be six lanes from 95 to 13, and eight lanes from 13 to 72? Too bad they can't really widen the Roth Bridge to get full eight lanes from 301 north...
Delaware funds its capital projects with a mix of state and federal money, but for the next several years the state is expected to spend more of its own money on road construction than it has in years.
QuoteDelaware funds its capital projects with a mix of state and federal money, but for the next several years the state is expected to spend more of its own money on road construction than it has in years.
Wonder how much of that "own" money comes from interstate drivers paying the $4 (one-way automobile) Delaware Turnpike toll?
The C&D Canal Bridge was designed so that it can be restriped to accommodate eight overall lanes.
Would prefer money go to better upgrade the cloverleaf interchange between I-95/DE 141/(US 202) versus the band-aid improvements being made (http://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/i95/sr141-i95/index.shtml). At the very least something more should be done to eliminate this ramp merge point (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7008835,-75.6024368,446m/data=!3m1!1e3) (the preferred alternative expands the loop ramp to two lanes).
I keep hearing on WDEL during morning rush that the ramp from SB DE 1/7 to SB I-95 is closed. Why? Am I hearing that right? Are they rebuilding the ramp? I'm reluctant to use delawareonline.com because of the limited number of clicks for nonsubscribers, and I don't know where to look on deldot.gov.
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I'm reluctant to use delawareonline.com because of the limited number of clicks for nonsubscribers, and I don't know where to look on deldot.gov.
How's the widening project on Route 26 west of Bethany Beach coming along? I imagine the recent snowstorms put a crimp in the timetable. How will the project be conducted during the summer?
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http://www.deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=5677 (http://www.deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=5677)That's why US 13 is there.
Looks like beach traffic is going to get a whole lot messier on Route 1 in the next few years.
Basic rundown:
Thompsonville Road Grade Separated Intersection project is ongoing.
Little Heaven Grade Separated Intersection project begins in October.
South Frederica Grade Separated Intersection project begins spring 2016.
NE Front St Grade Separated Intersection project begins fall 2017.
http://www.deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=5677 (http://www.deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=5677)That's why US 13 is there.
Looks like beach traffic is going to get a whole lot messier on Route 1 in the next few years.
Basic rundown:
Thompsonville Road Grade Separated Intersection project is ongoing.
Little Heaven Grade Separated Intersection project begins in October.
South Frederica Grade Separated Intersection project begins spring 2016.
NE Front St Grade Separated Intersection project begins fall 2017.
That's why US 13 is there.No, it really isn't.
You mean 113.US 113 would only help for the NE Front Street interchange project.
That's why US 13 is there.No, it really isn't.You mean 113.US 113 would only help for the NE Front Street interchange project.
or DE 20/54 if you're heading towards OC's north end. And if you're coming across the WPL Mem Br, you're more concerned with the upcoming widening of MD 404, a project which had some surveyor activity this afternoon, and deserves its own thread.That's why US 13 is there.No, it really isn't.You mean 113.US 113 would only help for the NE Front Street interchange project.
Depends on which beach you're going to. If you're going to say Ocean City, you're taking US 113 to MD 90 or US 50 anyway.
or DE 20/54 if you're heading towards OC's north end.That's why US 13 is there.No, it really isn't.You mean 113.US 113 would only help for the NE Front Street interchange project.
Depends on which beach you're going to. If you're going to say Ocean City, you're taking US 113 to MD 90 or US 50 anyway.
Barrels along 26 haven't been much of a problem. Wait until the lane closures resume in a few days...
Will there ever be a bridge between Bowers and South Bowers? Per Google Maps, they're about 14 miles apart by road although they are across the narrow Murderkill from each other.Doubtful. They'd either have to take property or build over a tributary just beyond the end of South Bowers Rd. I imagine that people living there are fine with the situation, since they chose to live there.
ixnay
Perhaps the locals use a boat to travel between Bowers & S Bowers.Will there ever be a bridge between Bowers and South Bowers? Per Google Maps, they're about 14 miles apart by road although they are across the narrow Murderkill from each other.Doubtful. They'd either have to take property or build over a tributary just beyond the end of South Bowers Rd. I imagine that people living there are fine with the situation, since they chose to live there.
ixnay
Perhaps the locals use a boat to travel between Bowers & S Bowers.Will there ever be a bridge between Bowers and South Bowers? Per Google Maps, they're about 14 miles apart by road although they are across the narrow Murderkill from each other.Doubtful. They'd either have to take property or build over a tributary just beyond the end of South Bowers Rd. I imagine that people living there are fine with the situation, since they chose to live there.
ixnay
DelDOT has apparently broken ground on the DE 1 Little Heaven Grade Separated Intersection:
http://www.deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=5793 (http://www.deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=5793)
I'm looking forward to its completion, the current setup is notorious for causing miles long backups during he summer months.
In the case of MD/DE 54, it's similar to what J N describes: the route shield (MD or DE) corresponds to who has maintenance/jurisdiction over that segment.Does that mean there's DE shields on the MD side of the border and vice versa?
also on the subject of Delmar, Bi-State Blvd on google maps is Alt US 13 but there are no signs on it to indicate that, is that a former Alt route or just an error on google maps?
MD 675 is pretty well signed however. (The Maryland part of Bi-State Blvd)
also on the subject of Delmar, Bi-State Blvd on google maps is Alt US 13 but there are no signs on it to indicate that, is that a former Alt route or just an error on google maps?
MD 675 is pretty well signed however. (The Maryland part of Bi-State Blvd)
That may have been U.S. 13 itself in the very distant past. I do not ever recall seeing it signed as U.S. 13 or U.S. 13 Alternate, but others here know Delaware better than I.
US 301 spur if anything at all. I could see it being signed as "TO 301" and "TO 896" for south / northbound traffic respectively.Won't DelDOT have to sign Alternate U.S. 301 somewhere when they get the "new" (and tolled) U.S. 301 completed?
Do you remember U.S. 301 North and U.S. 301 South in Delaware?
I was wondering if there were any active plans to do anything with the grading and stub for the NB-SB loop ramp in that interchange. Guess this answers that. I take it removing the useless I-295 SB bridge over nothing from the old configuration is part of that project?
Apparently the DRBA is on the verge of starting another I-295 / US 13 / US 40 interchange project. This time they're moving the US 13 N > I-295 S from its current u-turn ramp configuration to a traditional cloverleaf on the other side of the interstate, adding a third lane to I-295 S for a consistent 3 lanes through the interchange, and tweaking a few other minor things.
Has Delaware ever had a SPUR route before?Anyone care to guess what DE will number the spur to the Summit Point Bridge while we are at it?
US 301 spur if anything at all. I could see it being signed as "TO 301" and "TO 896" for south / northbound traffic respectively.
Won't DelDOT have to sign Alternate U.S. 301 somewhere when they get the "new" (and tolled) U.S. 301 completed?
Do you remember U.S. 301 North and U.S. 301 South in Delaware?
According to this - http://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/us301/pdfs/Section_4BC_Roll_Maps_9-6-2011_1.pdf - it will be 301 SPUR
Mike
Not that I recall.Has Delaware ever had a SPUR route before?Anyone care to guess what DE will number the spur to the Summit Point Bridge while we are at it?
US 301 spur if anything at all. I could see it being signed as "TO 301" and "TO 896" for south / northbound traffic respectively.
Won't DelDOT have to sign Alternate U.S. 301 somewhere when they get the "new" (and tolled) U.S. 301 completed?
Do you remember U.S. 301 North and U.S. 301 South in Delaware?
According to this - http://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/us301/pdfs/Section_4BC_Roll_Maps_9-6-2011_1.pdf - it will be 301 SPUR
Mike
I was wondering if there were any active plans to do anything with the grading and stub for the NB-SB loop ramp in that interchange. Guess this answers that. I take it removing the useless I-295 SB bridge over nothing from the old configuration is part of that project?
Both southbound bridges pass over long abandoned railroads. The northbound spans were removed when they reconstructed I-295 previously, so they should removed. The eastern one however will be the location of a new greenway tunnel.
Has Delaware ever had a SPUR route before?Not that I recall.
Apparently the DRBA is on the verge of starting another I-295 / US 13 / US 40 interchange project. This time they're moving the US 13 N > I-295 S from its current u-turn ramp configuration to a traditional cloverleaf on the other side of the interstate, adding a third lane to I-295 S for a consistent 3 lanes through the interchange, and tweaking a few other minor things.
Delaware Online article (http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2015/12/09/-295-commuters-face-34-months-road-work/77009828/)
PDF of the DRBA's plans (http://www.drba.net/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=sXUcWX4n2yI%3d&tabid=39)
Oh yea, they ended up just signing it as the mainline so I completely forgot about that.Has Delaware ever had a SPUR route before?Not that I recall.
The formal name of the Delaware 141 reroute at Blue Ball is "Route 141 Spur". That is a close as they get with a spur route in the state.
Back to the I-295 project... that DRBA link seems to indicate that the soon to be closed horseshoe ramp from NB 13 to SB 295 is just going to stand and rot for a year before it's dismantled, right?
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Anyone care to guess what DE will number the spur to the Summit Point Bridge while we are at it?
US 301 spur if anything at all. I could see it being signed as "TO 301" and "TO 896" for south / northbound traffic respectively.
SR 279 was just a renumber of SR 2, and its so poorly signed, they might as well have signed it as TO MD 279 and TO DE 4.
SR 279 was just a renumber of SR 2, and its so poorly signed, they might as well have signed it as TO MD 279 and TO DE 4.
But they've had no problem leaving up DE 2 shields from the state route's pre-1988 routing through Newark...
(unless that's Newark's fault, either way it's still ironic)
Those are still alive and well, I walk past them practically everyday.SR 279 was just a renumber of SR 2, and its so poorly signed, they might as well have signed it as TO MD 279 and TO DE 4.
But they've had no problem leaving up DE 2 shields from the state route's pre-1988 routing through Newark...
(unless that's Newark's fault, either way it's still ironic)
I made an effort on my last trip home to document all the remaining ones in Newark. Let's hope the 2di shields for SR 273 continue to live on.
(http://www.aaroads.com/shields/img/DE/DE19702732i1.jpg)
I didn't know about this detour until I was on my way home from Bethany Beach tonight...Been annoying for a month now. Was even more so Thursday, because work was supposed to be done by now as you note. Corrugated drainage pipe rusted out, I believe. I'm on a DelDOT mailing list, and it seems they're always doing one of these somewhere, with accompanying closures and detours.
http://bridgeville.delaware.gov/road-closure-portion-of-state-route-404/
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ma+%26+Pa's+Market/@38.7740983,-75.659721,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x89b88b314a06c427:0x229e0e2be7f296c2!5m1!1e1!8s0ALHuxZqsVlPON8AkqKfFIXQvWzWXGyHqEAChF3d3cuZm9vZGxpb24uY29tLxKyAWh0dHA6Ly9jbGlja3NlcnZlLmRhcnRzZWFyY2gubmV0L2xpbmsvY2xpY2s_bGlkPTQzNzAwMDA3MDE1NDEyNDIwJmRzX3Nfa3dnaWQ9NTg3MDAwMDA0OTE1NzYyMTAmZHNfZV9hZGlkPTgzMzQxMjM0MDMzJmRzX2VfbWF0Y2h0eXBlPXNlYXJjaCZkc19lX2RldmljZT1jJmRzX2VfbmV0d29yaz1nJmRzX3VybF92PTIaGEZvb2RMaW9uLmNvbSAtIEZvb2QgTGlvbiIjRWFzeSwgRnJlc2ggJiBBZmZvcmRhYmxlIEdyb2Nlcmllcy4qIlN0YXJ0IFNhdmluZyBUb2RheSB3aXRoIEZvb2QgTGlvbiE
The detour is still up, so obviously acts of God among other things have done havoc with the schedule.
BTW what's a "crossroad pipe"?
ixnay
I didn't know about this detour until I was on my way home from Bethany Beach tonight...Been annoying for a month now. Was even more so Thursday, because work was supposed to be done by now as you note. Corrugated drainage pipe rusted out, I believe. I'm on a DelDOT mailing list, and it seems they're always doing one of these somewhere, with accompanying closures and detours.
http://bridgeville.delaware.gov/road-closure-portion-of-state-route-404/
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ma+%26+Pa's+Market/@38.7740983,-75.659721,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x89b88b314a06c427:0x229e0e2be7f296c2!5m1!1e1!8s0ALHuxZqsVlPON8AkqKfFIXQvWzWXGyHqEAChF3d3cuZm9vZGxpb24uY29tLxKyAWh0dHA6Ly9jbGlja3NlcnZlLmRhcnRzZWFyY2gubmV0L2xpbmsvY2xpY2s_bGlkPTQzNzAwMDA3MDE1NDEyNDIwJmRzX3Nfa3dnaWQ9NTg3MDAwMDA0OTE1NzYyMTAmZHNfZV9hZGlkPTgzMzQxMjM0MDMzJmRzX2VfbWF0Y2h0eXBlPXNlYXJjaCZkc19lX2RldmljZT1jJmRzX2VfbmV0d29yaz1nJmRzX3VybF92PTIaGEZvb2RMaW9uLmNvbSAtIEZvb2QgTGlvbiIjRWFzeSwgRnJlc2ggJiBBZmZvcmRhYmxlIEdyb2Nlcmllcy4qIlN0YXJ0IFNhdmluZyBUb2RheSB3aXRoIEZvb2QgTGlvbiE
The detour is still up, so obviously acts of God among other things have done havoc with the schedule.
BTW what's a "crossroad pipe"?
ixnay
I just signed up for that list. I don't how long you have been on that list, dave, but when detours are lifted, does DelDOT notify you?About a decade. Generally they don't notify you when a project is wrapped up and a detour lifted, unless they're quite proud of something they've done. On the other hand, announcing that the detour has been extended probably should have been done. I just received notification of the posting of a 12/16/15 Press Release stating that the closure at the intersection of DE 20 with US 113 is scheduled to run until Jan 22, which is nice know, but I wish they'd have done the same for the extended work project on DE 404, which is now a week beyond its projected 4 week closure. (I think the DE20/US113 closure was originally announced as lasting 2 weeks, but they've pulled the original Press Release from the website. Today's received press release (dated a week ago) makes only inferential mention of the original schedule. It's now scheduled for 6 weeks.)
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I was down in Delmar over thanksgiving, if Route 54 is on the border line between Delaware and Maryland, how do they decide if it has the Delaware shield or the Maryland one. the segment in downtown Delmar has the MD shield, but closer to US 13 it has the DE shield.And at the risk of having 2 posts in a row (on different DE topics), I drove 54 westbound a few days ago, and while I wasn't taking notes as I drove, I did remember seeing 2 MD 54 signs on posts stuck into DE soil, but only 1 such DE 54 (I wasn't closely checking my rear view mirror to see what was posted eastbound in MD soil). Most of this road is clearly in DE (except of course the part west of the state), but the stretch between Delmar and Gumboro Road (named E. Line Rd) is basically on the border. MD seems to have jurisdiction/maintenance over the eastern half of this stretch, mostly because it does veer into MD to avoid the Line Church Cemetery. There's a subtle change in the pavement just about the location of the DE 54 sign, making me think that DE maintains the stretch from there to Delmar.
PDF detailing the improvements and construction phases on I-295
http://www.drba.net/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=sXUcWX4n2yI%3d&tabid=39
It appears that the connection to I-295 south to I-95 south will be widened to 3 lanes.
I drove DE 1 through the now mostly finished auxiliary lane project between US 40 and DE 273 and took a couple pictures of the signs that went up in conjunction with the project. The gantries are (at least from what I've seen, correct me if I'm wrong) new to the state, but the signs themselves leave something to be desired.
I drove DE 1 through the now mostly finished auxiliary lane project between US 40 and DE 273 and took a couple pictures of the signs that went up in conjunction with the project. The gantries are (at least from what I've seen, correct me if I'm wrong) new to the state, but the signs themselves leave something to be desired.
Bob C. shared a pic of one with me a few weeks ago and stated the same thing about them being the first monotubes used in Delaware. I concur with both of you.
As for the design, at least they don't read "MUST EXIT", but they have the usual misuses of Clearview.
I just signed up for that list. I don't how long you have been on that list, dave, but when detours are lifted, does DelDOT notify you?Consider yourself notified. New culvert is MUCH wider than just road width.
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http://www.delawareonline.com/videos/news/local/2016/01/08/78505014/ (http://www.delawareonline.com/videos/news/local/2016/01/08/78505014/)
Per DelawareOnline, funding has been secured for the new Christina River crossing at the Wilmington Riverfront, to be dubbed 'New Sweden St.' Alongside this news came a flyover + ground level animation of the proposal. DelDOT seems to be pointing to a Summer 2017 start and Fall 2018 completion for the entire project.
Hopefully the new signage isn't as bad as the animation's. :ded:
(http://i.imgur.com/aDGdFhQ.png)
with the talk of Massachusetts moving to mileage based exits and Connecticut moving towards that eventually, are there any plans for Delaware to move to mileage based exits? My wish list would be if they could remove those confusing kilometer exit numbers on Route 1 and replace them with proper mileage based exits. I doubt the USA is moving to the metric system any time soon.
So all of the mileage based signs that remain will stay, and won't be replaced by kilometer based numbering, but new projects will have the kilometer based numbering (that involves building freeways)?with the talk of Massachusetts moving to mileage based exits and Connecticut moving towards that eventually, are there any plans for Delaware to move to mileage based exits? My wish list would be if they could remove those confusing kilometer exit numbers on Route 1 and replace them with proper mileage based exits. I doubt the USA is moving to the metric system any time soon.
I haven't seen any talk about this from DelDOT. All of the new interchanges along DE 1 have been either signed with kilometer based exit numbers, or simply none at all (DE 30). Future exits, such as the US 301 toll road, also have kilometer based numbers. As for the interstates (which are signed with sequential exit numbers), they aren't adding any new interchanges so the inevitable shifting of exit numbers that would occur upon the addition of a new exit isn't spurring the conversation at all.
So all of the mileage based signs that remain will stay, and won't be replaced by kilometer based numbering, but new projects will have the kilometer based numbering (that involves building freeways)?with the talk of Massachusetts moving to mileage based exits and Connecticut moving towards that eventually, are there any plans for Delaware to move to mileage based exits? My wish list would be if they could remove those confusing kilometer exit numbers on Route 1 and replace them with proper mileage based exits. I doubt the USA is moving to the metric system any time soon.
I haven't seen any talk about this from DelDOT. All of the new interchanges along DE 1 have been either signed with kilometer based exit numbers, or simply none at all (DE 30). Future exits, such as the US 301 toll road, also have kilometer based numbers. As for the interstates (which are signed with sequential exit numbers), they aren't adding any new interchanges so the inevitable shifting of exit numbers that would occur upon the addition of a new exit isn't spurring the conversation at all.
Given that distance signs and milemarkers are in miles on DE 1, IMO DE 1 should switch to mile-based exit numbers. It's confusing to have them be km-based when everything else is in miles.
Also, DE 141's exit numbers would appear to not need changing for a mile-based system based on the measuring I did on Google Maps.
Only if you round down. IMO that's a terrible way to do mile-based numbers - they should be rounded to the nearest milepost, even if that's the next milepost instead of the previous one. Airport Rd (and by extension DE 4) would still be off under a strict interpretation, but I'd be fine with them the way they are.IMO it doesn't matter one iota which method you choose, as long as you're consistent.
Given that distance signs and milemarkers are in miles on DE 1, IMO DE 1 should switch to mile-based exit numbers. It's confusing to have them be km-based when everything else is in miles.
Also, DE 141's exit numbers would appear to not need changing for a mile-based system based on the measuring I did on Google Maps.
theyre off slightly. If you go by wikipedia it should be:
Exit 1A-B - US 13/40 Wilmington Dover
Exit 2A - I-295 North Delaware Memorial Bridge
Exit 2B - I-95/495 US 202 Wilmington
Exit 2C - I-95 South Newark Baltimore
Exit 3A - S James Street Airport Road
Exit 3B - DE 4 Newport Stanton
Exit 4 - DE 62 Boxwood Road
Exit 5A-B - DE 2/41 Elsmere Newark
http://www.deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=5949 (http://www.deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=5949)
And yet another interchange project has begun, the South Frederica interchange on DE 1 started the other day. We now have 4 major interchange projects going on at once on DE 1, woo!
Great to hear! Is the goal to eliminate all of the at grade intersections in that corridor? I go to the DE Beaches and OCMD a lot and I know how DE 1 gets on its bad days.
The overall quality of some of the ramps points to this also, they're a lot narrower and the corners are a lot tighter than ramps you'd see on a corridor that's supposed to be converted to a full freeway. The DE 9 interchange comes to mind, I've used the southbound DE 1 on ramp a couple times and the merge is just uncomfortable between the sharp corner and the lack of a real shoulder.QuoteGreat to hear! Is the goal to eliminate all of the at grade intersections in that corridor? I go to the DE Beaches and OCMD a lot and I know how DE 1 gets on its bad days.
Not really. The goal appears to be to eliminate existing signals and prevent new signals from being needed, but the goal does not appear to be full access control.
QuoteGreat to hear! Is the goal to eliminate all of the at grade intersections in that corridor? I go to the DE Beaches and OCMD a lot and I know how DE 1 gets on its bad days.
Not really. The goal appears to be to eliminate existing signals and prevent new signals from being needed, but the goal does not appear to be full access control.
with the talk of Massachusetts moving to mileage based exits and Connecticut moving towards that eventually, are there any plans for Delaware to move to mileage based exits? My wish list would be if they could remove those confusing kilometer exit numbers on Route 1 and replace them with proper mileage based exits. I doubt the USA is moving to the metric system any time soon.
with the talk of Massachusetts moving to mileage based exits and Connecticut moving towards that eventually, are there any plans for Delaware to move to mileage based exits? My wish list would be if they could remove those confusing kilometer exit numbers on Route 1 and replace them with proper mileage based exits. I doubt the USA is moving to the metric system any time soon.
A better idea - get rid of the U.S. customary units of measurement.
In spite of what right wing radio talk show hosts want people to think, a very large part of the U.S. economy is already metric, including liquor and wine, nearly all motor vehicle parts and all pharmaceuticals.
I don't care what measurement system DE 1 uses, as long as it uses the same one for exit numbers, distance signage, and milemarkers. Either put the distance signage and milemarkers back to km or switch the exit numbers to miles. I can work with miles, I can work with km, but I can't convert between the two willy-nilly; when in Canada, I drop the US units and think in metric (where I'm familiar enough with the metric to do that, which in practice means distance signs and speed limits, but not gas stations, weather reports, or thermostats), but with DE 1, one has to constantly convert the km-based exit numbers back to miles in order for them to be useful. When I traveled that road, I had no reference to neither how close I was to my destination nor how many exits were in between. At least everywhere else, I'd have one or the other.
And I-95 and I-495 should really be switched off of sequential (I'd like to see exit numbers on I-295 as well).
I don't care what measurement system DE 1 uses, as long as it uses the same one for exit numbers, distance signage, and milemarkers. Either put the distance signage and milemarkers back to km or switch the exit numbers to miles. I can work with miles, I can work with km, but I can't convert between the two willy-nilly; when in Canada, I drop the US units and think in metric (where I'm familiar enough with the metric to do that, which in practice means distance signs and speed limits, but not gas stations, weather reports, or thermostats), but with DE 1, one has to constantly convert the km-based exit numbers back to miles in order for them to be useful. When I traveled that road, I had no reference to neither how close I was to my destination nor how many exits were in between. At least everywhere else, I'd have one or the other.
And I-95 and I-495 should really be switched off of sequential (I'd like to see exit numbers on I-295 as well).
I remember when it first opened and there were signs like Toll Plaza 500 m......no one knew where the hell that was. When will you see it? In half an hour? Around the next bend?
It would be interesting to see the exits at the north end go from numbers around 100 to the 160s and back to 100.
I don't care what measurement system DE 1 uses, as long as it uses the same one for exit numbers, distance signage, and milemarkers. Either put the distance signage and milemarkers back to km or switch the exit numbers to miles. I can work with miles, I can work with km, but I can't convert between the two willy-nilly; when in Canada, I drop the US units and think in metric (where I'm familiar enough with the metric to do that, which in practice means distance signs and speed limits, but not gas stations, weather reports, or thermostats), but with DE 1, one has to constantly convert the km-based exit numbers back to miles in order for them to be useful. When I traveled that road, I had no reference to neither how close I was to my destination nor how many exits were in between. At least everywhere else, I'd have one or the other.
And I-95 and I-495 should really be switched off of sequential (I'd like to see exit numbers on I-295 as well).
I remember when it first opened and there were signs like Toll Plaza 500 m......no one knew where the hell that was. When will you see it? In half an hour? Around the next bend?
It would be interesting to see the exits at the north end go from numbers around 100 to the 160s and back to 100.
If DE insists on km exit numbers, they should put the milemarkers on metric as well. For the distance signs, distances should be listed in both US and metric units. So signs list "Main Street 1 mile (1.6 km)" or "Dover 10 miles (16 km)" would probably be the best in this situation.
If you've gotten on the highway, and know you need to get off at exit 166, you should be able to look at any mile/km marker and do the math to figure out how far away you are. You can't do that on DE 1.
You'll find it near the USA/Canada border on both sides. Quebec and Vermont come to mind.I don't care what measurement system DE 1 uses, as long as it uses the same one for exit numbers, distance signage, and milemarkers. Either put the distance signage and milemarkers back to km or switch the exit numbers to miles. I can work with miles, I can work with km, but I can't convert between the two willy-nilly; when in Canada, I drop the US units and think in metric (where I'm familiar enough with the metric to do that, which in practice means distance signs and speed limits, but not gas stations, weather reports, or thermostats), but with DE 1, one has to constantly convert the km-based exit numbers back to miles in order for them to be useful. When I traveled that road, I had no reference to neither how close I was to my destination nor how many exits were in between. At least everywhere else, I'd have one or the other.
And I-95 and I-495 should really be switched off of sequential (I'd like to see exit numbers on I-295 as well).
I remember when it first opened and there were signs like Toll Plaza 500 m......no one knew where the hell that was. When will you see it? In half an hour? Around the next bend?
It would be interesting to see the exits at the north end go from numbers around 100 to the 160s and back to 100.
If DE insists on km exit numbers, they should put the milemarkers on metric as well. For the distance signs, distances should be listed in both US and metric units. So signs list "Main Street 1 mile (1.6 km)" or "Dover 10 miles (16 km)" would probably be the best in this situation.
Wasn't that tried at one point in some state, and found to be much too confusing?
The median, as you can see, is narrow, with very little recovery room. There should be a guardrail in this area to prevent these types of accidents.
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2016/06/09/more-closures-coming-massive-del-141-project/85643364/It's doable in nighttime only, but expensive. You have to construct each piece offline to precise tolerances, stage it somewhere, then bring in all the heavy machinery to break out the old pieces and drop in the new. Typically they at least try to get an entire weekend for it. It can't be done in 1 night, but it can be done over the course of several, in the most extreme cases where weekend closures are infeasible and there's no room for a temporary bypass.
141 Closures at and near I-95.
My favorite question that people ask: Why can't they do the work at night? Hey, if they can remove and replace an entire overpass in 1 night, I'd be very impressed.
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2016/06/09/more-closures-coming-massive-del-141-project/85643364/It's doable in nighttime only, but expensive. You have to construct each piece offline to precise tolerances, stage it somewhere, then bring in all the heavy machinery to break out the old pieces and drop in the new. Typically they at least try to get an entire weekend for it. It can't be done in 1 night, but it can be done over the course of several, in the most extreme cases where weekend closures are infeasible and there's no room for a temporary bypass.
141 Closures at and near I-95.
My favorite question that people ask: Why can't they do the work at night? Hey, if they can remove and replace an entire overpass in 1 night, I'd be very impressed.
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2016/06/09/more-closures-coming-massive-del-141-project/85643364/
141 Closures at and near I-95.
My favorite question that people ask: Why can't they do the work at night? Hey, if they can remove and replace an entire overpass in 1 night, I'd be very impressed.
Looking at some of their other documents, it's rare to see DelDOT design and acknowledge a project where a movement is Level F now, and is projected to still be Level F in the future. But it's one of those things where the rest of the project is an overall benefit, so they'll probably deal with that later. ( http://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/sr141/archivedsite-sr141-i95/index.shtml , see Capacity Analysis for that specific issue)
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2016/06/09/more-closures-coming-massive-del-141-project/85643364/It's doable in nighttime only, but expensive. You have to construct each piece offline to precise tolerances, stage it somewhere, then bring in all the heavy machinery to break out the old pieces and drop in the new. Typically they at least try to get an entire weekend for it. It can't be done in 1 night, but it can be done over the course of several, in the most extreme cases where weekend closures are infeasible and there's no room for a temporary bypass.
141 Closures at and near I-95.
My favorite question that people ask: Why can't they do the work at night? Hey, if they can remove and replace an entire overpass in 1 night, I'd be very impressed.
RIP to the remaining Delaware 2 cutout (http://www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=DE19660021). It was replaced (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7465429,-75.5748024,3a,76.2y,257.21h,90.41t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s3nlKwZ3UsknA6KRCoI2NRA!2e0!5s20160801T000000!7i13312!8i6656) by this year. I figured it would have been removed since Wilmington is generally uninterested in signing state routes.How old do those shields date back from?
Thankfully, the Delaware 4 cutout (http://www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=DE19660041) is still holding on.
RIP to the remaining Delaware 2 cutout (http://www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=DE19660021). It was replaced (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7465429,-75.5748024,3a,76.2y,257.21h,90.41t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s3nlKwZ3UsknA6KRCoI2NRA!2e0!5s20160801T000000!7i13312!8i6656) by this year. I figured it would have been removed since Wilmington is generally uninterested in signing state routes.How old do those shields date back from?
Thankfully, the Delaware 4 cutout (http://www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=DE19660041) is still holding on.
The (Wilmington, Del.) News Journal via USAToday: Delaware eyes truckers evading tolls on I-95 (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/08/toll-evaders/16922061/)
...and Old Baltimore Pike, also known as Delaware 281.
Funnily enough, it doesn't look like anyone picked up on the News Journal trying to will a state route into existence the first time around:Quote...and Old Baltimore Pike, also known as Delaware 281.
The (Wilmington, Del.) News Journal via USAToday: Delaware eyes truckers evading tolls on I-95 (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/10/08/toll-evaders/16922061/)
...from over two years ago.
You posted about it here (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2012358#msg2012358) when the piece was first written. :sombrero:
Funnily enough, it doesn't look like anyone picked up on the News Journal trying to will a state route into existence the first time around:Quote...and Old Baltimore Pike, also known as Delaware 281.
60 MPH speed limit sighting (first in the state?) on Route 1 around Dover
http://deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=6373
60 MPH speed limit sighting (first in the state?) on Route 1 around Dover
http://deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=6373
60 MPH speed limit sighting (first in the state?) on Route 1 around Dover
http://deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=6373
As far as I know, yes, this will be the only current instance of a 60 MPH speed limit in the state. Glad to see DelDOT realizing that pretty much everyone were comfortable driving at a quicker pace on these roads, especially given as there is really no difference in road quality on either side of the speed limit change.
I like to know why DelDOT used one on DE 1 in Sussex County, DE to replace a Bascule Span Bridge instead of your typical high rise that usually replaces an inlet crossing.
Using Wikipedia, for what that's worth, it sounds like a history of scouring has undone many bridges there. Thru just 80 years, 5 bridges have been built on this site; with the other 4 either collapsing or in danger of collapsing. Almost sounds like a long history of bad engineering.
The current bridge was built, it appears, to withstand changes in the ocean and inlet currents for decades to come. It certainly does seem overbuilt for what it needs to cross though!
Scouring was indeed a big problem with at least the 1965 Indian River bridge-it underwent frequent underwater checks in its last years after one inspection revealed that the narrow channel was about 90' deep and there wasn't really much holding up the bridge. Large boulders were routinely dumped into the channel. (Fun fact: highest point in Sussex Co is only about 75'.) I'm too lazy to see if Wikipedia covers it adequately, but the first attempt at building the newest bridge was halted after it was noticed that all the fill (and the ground it was sitting on, namely wet sand) had sunk several feet. Supposedly the tidal flow would be enough to generate serious electricity, if anybody could figure out how to keep the turbines from washing away.
The pre-1965 Indian River bridge was indeed a bascule bridge that was undermined in the March 1962 nor'easter and closed well into that summer.
Although he was just an R&D tech, my late stepdad would probably say about the current bridge, "That bridge was 200% overdesigned!"
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Apologies if this has been discussed before, but what's the deal with DE 1's exit numbers? They are like 40 off of the mile markers and would need to start somewhere in the Virginia part of Delmarva to make any sense.
Distance on DE 1 is measured in km. Part of an experiment with the metric conversion craze of the 1990s.FTFY
Apologies if this has been discussed before, but what's the deal with DE 1's exit numbers? They are like 40 off of the mile markers and would need to start somewhere in the Virginia part of Delmarva to make any sense.
Apologies if this has been discussed before, but what's the deal with DE 1's exit numbers? They are like 40 off of the mile markers and would need to start somewhere in the Virginia part of Delmarva to make any sense.
The Dover-Smyrna portion of DE 1 was signed entirely with metric units when it opened in December 1993. The units were not well received and they were swapped out, with the exception of the exit numbers. The original DE 1 freeway in New Castle County did have mile based exit numbers. They were changed to match the metric units.
The newest exit on DE 1 is 5 km or so off the actual distance from the Maryland line, while the exit for DE 30 is unnumbered.
(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware001/de-001_nb_exit_079_03.jpg)
(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware001/de-001_nb_at_de-030.jpg)
At least the exit tab on the above-example doesn't look like it was copied from Maryland signage.(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware001/de-001_nb_exit_079_03.jpg)My god Delaware sucked at Clearview.
I've seen this before on the Delaware Memorial Bridge: Falling ice from the suspension ropes and tubes case them to shut down the outside lanes. Thus, 2 lanes are open in either direction. Unlike some of the past incidents, weekday, winter closures don't tend to jam up traffic all that much, especially since people aren't necessarily slowing down to see construction work or anything.
http://www.nj.com/salem/index.ssf/2017/03/falling_ice_prompts_lane_closures_on_delaware_memo.html#incart_river_home
Yes. East River bridges in NYC do...but I don't think they shut down outside lanes to deal with it.I've seen this before on the Delaware Memorial Bridge: Falling ice from the suspension ropes and tubes case them to shut down the outside lanes. Thus, 2 lanes are open in either direction. Unlike some of the past incidents, weekday, winter closures don't tend to jam up traffic all that much, especially since people aren't necessarily slowing down to see construction work or anything.
http://www.nj.com/salem/index.ssf/2017/03/falling_ice_prompts_lane_closures_on_delaware_memo.html#incart_river_home
Do other suspension, cable stayed, or cantilever bridges have a problem with this?
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Remember that this wasn't a snow storm though...in DE, it was all sleet and freezing rain...so this was an unusual event.
The spire on top of the Court House, Delaware's Colonial capitol and first state house, was used as the center of the Twelve-Mile Circle forming the northern boundary of Delaware. The Delaware River within this radius to the low water mark on the opposite shore is part of Delaware. Thus the Delaware Memorial Bridge was built as an intrastate span by Delaware, without financial participation by neighboring New Jersey.[citation needed]
The information one can get via Wikipedia is gold. I was looking up something on New Castle, Delaware, and found this interesting tidbit:Considering DRBA is a bi-state agency...QuoteThe spire on top of the Court House, Delaware's Colonial capitol and first state house, was used as the center of the Twelve-Mile Circle forming the northern boundary of Delaware. The Delaware River within this radius to the low water mark on the opposite shore is part of Delaware. Thus the Delaware Memorial Bridge was built as an intrastate span by Delaware, without financial participation by neighboring New Jersey.[citation needed]
For this to be even remotely true, the bridge would have had to touch down at the exact point where the river touches NJ during lowtide. Obviously, it does not.
Take note that a citation is needed...I won't hold my breath waiting for that citation to be provided.
At least the exit tab on the above-example doesn't look like it was copied from Maryland signage.(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware001/de-001_nb_exit_079_03.jpg)My god Delaware sucked at Clearview.
Now that's interesting. But tell me this, does DE 1 plan to get rid of the toll booths once the 301 tollway is finished?I went out to where the old summit bridge was today and took some pictures, i would upload them but i don't know how :confused: . I went on both sides of where the former bridge was, it was very interesting.
If you normally take U.S. 113 to the Quiet Resorts, OCMD, or maybe Berlin and/or Snow Hill, you'll have to deal with this for a fortnight.
http://www.wboc.com/story/35347266/section-of-us-113-closing-tonight-in-milford-for-two-weeks
Notice how the rails have sagged at the crossing.
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Now that's interesting. But tell me this, does DE 1 plan to get rid of the toll booths once the 301 tollway is finished?I went out to where the old summit bridge was today and took some pictures, i would upload them but i don't know how :confused: . I went on both sides of where the former bridge was, it was very interesting.
If you normally take U.S. 113 to the Quiet Resorts, OCMD, or maybe Berlin and/or Snow Hill, you'll have to deal with this for a fortnight.
http://www.wboc.com/story/35347266/section-of-us-113-closing-tonight-in-milford-for-two-weeks
Notice how the rails have sagged at the crossing.
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As previously noted you must have a free way to cross & I believe that when the 301 flyover ramp is built with DE 1 the light where you can join DE 1 before St georges will be removed. Which means you would have to get off at the 896 exit & take U.S all the way up or they will build a correct interchange for the 3 roadsNow that's interesting. But tell me this, does DE 1 plan to get rid of the toll booths once the 301 tollway is finished?I went out to where the old summit bridge was today and took some pictures, i would upload them but i don't know how :confused: . I went on both sides of where the former bridge was, it was very interesting.
If you normally take U.S. 113 to the Quiet Resorts, OCMD, or maybe Berlin and/or Snow Hill, you'll have to deal with this for a fortnight.
http://www.wboc.com/story/35347266/section-of-us-113-closing-tonight-in-milford-for-two-weeks
Notice how the rails have sagged at the crossing.
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Nope. In the tolling sense, the two highways have nothing to do with each other.
As previously noted you must have a free way to cross & I believe that when the 301 flyover ramp is built with DE 1 the light where you can join DE 1 before St georges will be removed. Which means you would have to get off at the 896 exit & take U.S all the way up or they will build a correct interchange for the 3 roadsNow that's interesting. But tell me this, does DE 1 plan to get rid of the toll booths once the 301 tollway is finished?I went out to where the old summit bridge was today and took some pictures, i would upload them but i don't know how :confused: . I went on both sides of where the former bridge was, it was very interesting.
If you normally take U.S. 113 to the Quiet Resorts, OCMD, or maybe Berlin and/or Snow Hill, you'll have to deal with this for a fortnight.
http://www.wboc.com/story/35347266/section-of-us-113-closing-tonight-in-milford-for-two-weeks
Notice how the rails have sagged at the crossing.
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Nope. In the tolling sense, the two highways have nothing to do with each other.
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Do you think its a good idea to push more traffic on the old Us 13 Bridge it is already is terrible condition the best crossing is the C & D canel bridgeAs previously noted you must have a free way to cross & I believe that when the 301 flyover ramp is built with DE 1 the light where you can join DE 1 before St georges will be removed. Which means you would have to get off at the 896 exit & take U.S all the way up or they will build a correct interchange for the 3 roadsNow that's interesting. But tell me this, does DE 1 plan to get rid of the toll booths once the 301 tollway is finished?I went out to where the old summit bridge was today and took some pictures, i would upload them but i don't know how :confused: . I went on both sides of where the former bridge was, it was very interesting.
If you normally take U.S. 113 to the Quiet Resorts, OCMD, or maybe Berlin and/or Snow Hill, you'll have to deal with this for a fortnight.
http://www.wboc.com/story/35347266/section-of-us-113-closing-tonight-in-milford-for-two-weeks
Notice how the rails have sagged at the crossing.
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Nope. In the tolling sense, the two highways have nothing to do with each other.
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So there's still a free way to cross, right?
Also, the old US 13 St. Georges bridge will still be open, so that's another free way to cross.
Interestingly enough (and I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned), a large portion of the Clearview signage at the new DE 1 / 30 interchange has already been replaced with Highway Gothic as of two weekends ago. If memory serves, I believe they added Milford to the destinations instead of just using Lincoln. I didn't get any pictures as I was driving at the time.At least the exit tab on the above-example doesn't look like it was copied from Maryland signage.(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware001/de-001_nb_exit_079_03.jpg)My god Delaware sucked at Clearview.
Has Delaware followed Iowa and abandoned Clearview? I've seen some signs that look brand new (DE 1 at US 13 I think?) that looked like all Highway Gothic.
Speaking of DE 1... are they rebuilding the ramp from SB DE 1 to NB U.S. 13 in Tybouts Corner? Google Maps shows it as closed.
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WHAT: The Delaware Department of Transportation (DelDOT)'s contractor Eastern Highway Specialists Inc. will be removing the existing concrete median barrier and replacing with dual faced guardrail on SR 1.
Speaking of DE 1... are they rebuilding the ramp from SB DE 1 to NB U.S. 13 in Tybouts Corner? Google Maps shows it as closed.
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Bob told me of this in early April and figured it out:
The ramp is closed until May 26: http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicTrafficIncidentDisplay&id=89509
http://www.deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=6486QuoteWHAT: The Delaware Department of Transportation (DelDOT)'s contractor Eastern Highway Specialists Inc. will be removing the existing concrete median barrier and replacing with dual faced guardrail on SR 1.
Speaking of DE 1... are they rebuilding the ramp from SB DE 1 to NB U.S. 13 in Tybouts Corner? Google Maps shows it as closed.
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Bob told me of this in early April and figured it out:
The ramp is closed until May 26: http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicTrafficIncidentDisplay&id=89509
http://www.deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=6486QuoteWHAT: The Delaware Department of Transportation (DelDOT)'s contractor Eastern Highway Specialists Inc. will be removing the existing concrete median barrier and replacing with dual faced guardrail on SR 1.
Did we ever figure out the purpose of this? Especially on that high speed ramp, it seems awfully backwards to remove what appeared to be a perfectly fine jersey barrier and replace it with guardrail.
Speaking of DE 1... are they rebuilding the ramp from SB DE 1 to NB U.S. 13 in Tybouts Corner? Google Maps shows it as closed.When do they plan to rebuild it? I've seen the plans on deldots website. but no mention of a date, its a good plan too.
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Speaking of DE 1... are they rebuilding the ramp from SB DE 1 to NB U.S. 13 in Tybouts Corner? Google Maps shows it as closed.When do they plan to rebuild it? I've seen the plans on deldots website. but no mention of a date, its a good plan too.
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Speaking of DE 1... are they rebuilding the ramp from SB DE 1 to NB U.S. 13 in Tybouts Corner? Google Maps shows it as closed.When do they plan to rebuild it? I've seen the plans on deldots website. but no mention of a date, its a good plan too.
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Do you have a link or have any information on the actual plans?
Speaking of DE 1... are they rebuilding the ramp from SB DE 1 to NB U.S. 13 in Tybouts Corner? Google Maps shows it as closed.
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Bob told me of this in early April and figured it out:
The ramp is closed until May 26: http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicTrafficIncidentDisplay&id=89509
http://www.deldot.gov/home/newsroom/release.shtml?id=6486QuoteWHAT: The Delaware Department of Transportation (DelDOT)'s contractor Eastern Highway Specialists Inc. will be removing the existing concrete median barrier and replacing with dual faced guardrail on SR 1.
Did we ever figure out the purpose of this? Especially on that high speed ramp, it seems awfully backwards to remove what appeared to be a perfectly fine jersey barrier and replace it with guardrail.
Did anyone else notice that Delaware owns a majority of the Delaware memorial bridge, The Water that Delaware claims extends all the way to jerseys side of the bridge right on the coast.
Does that mean that Delaware owns more of the bridge and rights or does DRBA Make it 50-50.
Did anyone else notice that Delaware owns a majority of the Delaware memorial bridge, The Water that Delaware claims extends all the way to jerseys side of the bridge right on the coast.
Does that mean that Delaware owns more of the bridge and rights or does DRBA Make it 50-50.
Delaware doesn't own any of the bridge. Neither does NJ. The majority of the bridge is within the State of Delaware. And that is fairly well known, as all of the Delaware River is considered Delaware State. Look closely on some maps, and you'll see there's a few small sections on the NJ side of the river that are actually part of Delaware as well. This is due to river sediments that have built up over the years and formed land on the Jersey side of the Delaware.
There are two small signs on the 295 South side of the bridge noting the Delaware State Line. There are no such signs on the Jersey bound span.
The bridge is maintained by a bi-state authority, the DRBA. There's no 50/50 split. They fund themselves via the tolls. The DRBA maintains much more than the bridge...they maintain the roadway from approximately US 130 (NJ) to 95/495 (DE).
Posted this in the Signs with 3 Control Cities thread and thought such was worth reposting here:
This pull-through BGS w/3 listings for I-495 South is now no-more.
(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware495/i-495_sb_exit_006_02.jpg)
The 70s-vintage gantry (possibly original) and the 10(?) year-old BGS' were completely replaced with a pipe-style gantry. The new pull-through BGS now longer lists Del Mem Br.
All the new BGS' feature oversized Clearview fonts for the control cities (which overshadow the route shields & make for larger sign panels); but, unlike the Clearview BGS further south along I-95, the exit tabs are thankfully not the MD-style elongated ones (though the tab legends are in Clearview, a long-time FHWA no-no).
Either the designs for these new BGS panels were approved prior to the Feds yanking the interim approval for Clearview or DelDOT or the contractors simply didn't care. I didn't see any other new sign installations on Naaman's Road (DE 92).
Not sure if this was an accident-related replacement or part of an overall sign replacement project. I say that because the previous signs (which were still there 2 weeks ago) were still in decent shape.
It appears as though the new DE 141 SB bridge over I-95 NB is due to go into service next week:
http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2017/06/02/numerous-highway-closures-scheduled-next-week/364952001/ (http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2017/06/02/numerous-highway-closures-scheduled-next-week/364952001/)
Did anyone else notice that Delaware owns a majority of the Delaware memorial bridge, The Water that Delaware claims extends all the way to jerseys side of the bridge right on the coast.
Does that mean that Delaware owns more of the bridge and rights or does DRBA Make it 50-50.
Delaware doesn't own any of the bridge. Neither does NJ. The majority of the bridge is within the State of Delaware. And that is fairly well known, as all of the Delaware River is considered Delaware State. Look closely on some maps, and you'll see there's a few small sections on the NJ side of the river that are actually part of Delaware as well. This is due to river sediments that have built up over the years and formed land on the Jersey side of the Delaware.
There are two small signs on the 295 South side of the bridge noting the Delaware State Line. There are no such signs on the Jersey bound span.
The bridge is maintained by a bi-state authority, the DRBA. There's no 50/50 split. They fund themselves via the tolls. The DRBA maintains much more than the bridge...they maintain the roadway from approximately US 130 (NJ) to 95/495 (DE).
Newly installed signs on SR 2 EB approaching Delaware Park Dr, erected as a part of a project to lengthen the SR 2 EB turn lane to Milltown Road NB. Someone should probably check on the guy who manufactured the middle sign and make sure he's alright.The second sign uses the proper size down arrow for an overhead guide sign! What's wrong with that? :-D
(https://image.prntscr.com/image/asAu3RvuS2exFWQJGg8FKw.png)
Newly installed signs on SR 2 EB approaching Delaware Park Dr, erected as a part of a project to lengthen the SR 2 EB turn lane to Milltown Road NB. Someone should probably check on the guy who manufactured the middle sign and make sure he's alright.
(https://image.prntscr.com/image/asAu3RvuS2exFWQJGg8FKw.png)
EDIT: Fixed picture.
Posted this in the Signs with 3 Control Cities thread and thought such was worth reposting here:
This pull-through BGS w/3 listings for I-495 South is now no-more.
(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware495/i-495_sb_exit_006_02.jpg)
The 70s-vintage gantry (possibly original) and the 10(?) year-old BGS' were completely replaced with a pipe-style gantry. The new pull-through BGS now longer lists Del Mem Br.
All the new BGS' feature oversized Clearview fonts for the control cities (which overshadow the route shields & make for larger sign panels); but, unlike the Clearview BGS further south along I-95, the exit tabs are thankfully not the MD-style elongated ones (though the tab legends are in Clearview, a long-time FHWA no-no).
Either the designs for these new BGS panels were approved prior to the Feds yanking the interim approval for Clearview or DelDOT or the contractors simply didn't care. I didn't see any other new sign installations on Naaman's Road (DE 92).
Not sure if this was an accident-related replacement or part of an overall sign replacement project. I say that because the previous signs (which were still there 2 weeks ago) were still in decent shape.
Funny you commented on this, I had noticed it when I was driving a couple weeks ago, & was gonna post something about it. What made them choose bubble gantry? Is that the new thing now? & on other delaware related things, new High mast lights kn 495/95.
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Again, to be clear; the City/Port of patch was placed over the original Port of patch during a reconstruction of I-95 that took place in the late 90s/early 2000s. That patch was supposed to be removed when the project was completed. The original distinction was just Wilmington for I-95 South and Port of Wilmington for I-495 South.
So a follow-up question: If Wilmington traffic was supposed to take I-495 during this project, was a different greenout patch placed over “Wilmington” on the I-95 side? And if so, what did it say (if anything)?
Nobody trash-talks Clearview!Posted this in the Signs with 3 Control Cities thread and thought such was worth reposting here:
This pull-through BGS w/3 listings for I-495 South is now no-more.
(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware495/i-495_sb_exit_006_02.jpg)
The 70s-vintage gantry (possibly original) and the 10(?) year-old BGS' were completely replaced with a pipe-style gantry. The new pull-through BGS now longer lists Del Mem Br.
All the new BGS' feature oversized Clearview fonts for the control cities (which overshadow the route shields & make for larger sign panels); but, unlike the Clearview BGS further south along I-95, the exit tabs are thankfully not the MD-style elongated ones (though the tab legends are in Clearview, a long-time FHWA no-no).
Either the designs for these new BGS panels were approved prior to the Feds yanking the interim approval for Clearview or DelDOT or the contractors simply didn't care. I didn't see any other new sign installations on Naaman's Road (DE 92).
Not sure if this was an accident-related replacement or part of an overall sign replacement project. I say that because the previous signs (which were still there 2 weeks ago) were still in decent shape.
Funny you commented on this, I had noticed it when I was driving a couple weeks ago, & was gonna post something about it. What made them choose bubble gantry? Is that the new thing now? & on other delaware related things, new High mast lights kn 495/95.
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Got a photo just a couple weeks ago of a tube gantry at Exit 2 on 495 NB. Indeed there is OVERSIZED Clearview on the new sign. Sigh.
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18581762_10108222922848628_761324525481497796_n.jpg?oh=e5248125493f603181ade7b844b72fe9&oe=59A789C8)
The estimate of the age of the existing signage is pretty accurate judging from Street View inspection here and there on 495. The Exit 2 sign I posted appeared sometime in late 2007 or early 2008 based on the street view; the ones at Naamans Road that are now gone are probably from the same project and street view inspection shows the same rough age. Older signs at the same locations are classic DelDOT issue (rounded corners, sheet signs, exit tabs not totally fused to main sign, lighting included) while the signs that are just now being removed are extruded, no lighting, square corners--not classic DelDOT. The new signs really stink compared to the previous ones. The Clearview is WAY TOO LARGE. 9 or 10 years is too young to be getting rid of the existing signs....
I'm guessing this is on the Delaware side of the bridge? I know US Route 13 doesn't enter New Jersey.This is the Delaware thread, great educated guess
I'm guessing this is on the Delaware side of the bridge? I know US Route 13 doesn't enter New Jersey.It doesn't, although Morrisville, Pennsylvania, where it reaches its northern terminus, is close.
I'm guessing this is on the Delaware side of the bridge? I know US Route 13 doesn't enter New Jersey.It doesn't, although Morrisville, Pennsylvania, where it reaches its northern terminus, is close.
U.S. 202 Rededicated as the Gold Star Highway in Honor of Families of Soldiers
The Delaware Department of Transportation (DelDOT) announced today the rededication of U.S. 202 from the Delaware/ Pennsylvania line south to the I 95 interchange as the Gold Star Highway. Transportation Secretary Jennifer Cohan along with Governor John Carney made the announcement to an assembled audience within the sculpture garden of the Blue Ball Barn. Formalizing the event, the Governor proclaimed Monday, September 25, 2017 as "Delaware Gold Star Mothers' and Families' Day".
CNN has described the Gold Star designation as a venerated status that no one wants. For nearly 100 years, inclusion has been earned for losing an immediate family member serving during war/conflict. A Gold Star Lapel Button is issued to immediate family members of those who have lost their lives in the defense of democracy during WWI and II, and any subsequent armed hostilities in which the United States became engaged. It is also issued for Act of Terrorism deaths. Formal recognition of these families was launched in 1947 by an Act of Congress. The Next of Kin Lapel Button was authorized retroactive to March 29, 1973, for those who lost their lives while serving on active duty in other than a combat theatre or act of terrorism.
This is the first I've heard about this, I wonder how hard the new name is going to be pushed over the current "Concord Pike" name on signage.
US 202 between I-95 and the PA state line was rededicated as "Gold Star Highway" today:
http://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=6780 (http://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=6780)QuoteU.S. 202 Rededicated as the Gold Star Highway in Honor of Families of SoldiersQuoteThe Delaware Department of Transportation (DelDOT) announced today the rededication of U.S. 202 from the Delaware/ Pennsylvania line south to the I 95 interchange as the Gold Star Highway. Transportation Secretary Jennifer Cohan along with Governor John Carney made the announcement to an assembled audience within the sculpture garden of the Blue Ball Barn. Formalizing the event, the Governor proclaimed Monday, September 25, 2017 as "Delaware Gold Star Mothers' and Families' Day".
CNN has described the Gold Star designation as a venerated status that no one wants. For nearly 100 years, inclusion has been earned for losing an immediate family member serving during war/conflict. A Gold Star Lapel Button is issued to immediate family members of those who have lost their lives in the defense of democracy during WWI and II, and any subsequent armed hostilities in which the United States became engaged. It is also issued for Act of Terrorism deaths. Formal recognition of these families was launched in 1947 by an Act of Congress. The Next of Kin Lapel Button was authorized retroactive to March 29, 1973, for those who lost their lives while serving on active duty in other than a combat theatre or act of terrorism.
This is the first I've heard about this, I wonder how hard the new name is going to be pushed over the current "Concord Pike" name on signage.
I'm guessing this is on the Delaware side of the bridge? I know US Route 13 doesn't enter New Jersey.It doesn't, although Morrisville, Pennsylvania, where it reaches its northern terminus, is close.
And as it goes through Chester, Trainer, and Marcus Hook, you'd never know 13 is the same highway that's a dual road between Minquadale, DE and the CBBT.
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Thank you for your assistance. Someone will be in contact with you shortly for your award.I'm guessing this is on the Delaware side of the bridge? I know US Route 13 doesn't enter New Jersey.It doesn't, although Morrisville, Pennsylvania, where it reaches its northern terminus, is close.
And as it goes through Chester, Trainer, and Marcus Hook, you'd never know 13 is the same highway that's a dual road between Minquadale, DE and the CBBT.
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And it's southern terminus is at I-95 near Fayetteville, NC. Did anyone know that?
Living in Wilmington for several years, I've noticed how on Interstate 95 at the 9th Street overpass, the pillar on the southbound side is completely different than the ones on the northbound side and in the median. Why do you think that is?Probably magic.
ETA: What the heck, actually? https://goo.gl/maps/QSQhNhBKkVo (https://goo.gl/maps/QSQhNhBKkVo)
ETA2: And it happens with all the pillars at 10th Street, but nowhere else.
ETA: What the heck, actually? https://goo.gl/maps/QSQhNhBKkVo (https://goo.gl/maps/QSQhNhBKkVo)
ETA2: And it happens with all the pillars at 10th Street, but nowhere else.
You are right about how the pillars at the 9th and 10th Street overpasses (minus the one on the southbound end of the 9th street overpass) are very unique. With the 95 connection ramps in Bucks County, PA opening next August, it's possible that very soon, some through traffic will see those unique pillars as well.
No doubt, you likely had this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9085532,-75.1492098,3a,75y,297h,88.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBBA6yn_XigH-j3aFaAQKdQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) in mind when you typed the above.ETA: What the heck, actually? https://goo.gl/maps/QSQhNhBKkVo (https://goo.gl/maps/QSQhNhBKkVo)
ETA2: And it happens with all the pillars at 10th Street, but nowhere else.
You are right about how the pillars at the 9th and 10th Street overpasses (minus the one on the southbound end of the 9th street overpass) are very unique. With the 95 connection ramps in Bucks County, PA opening next August, it's possible that very soon, some through traffic will see those unique pillars as well.
It looks like just some reinforcement to the existing bridge support.
I've seen something like this elsewhere, but not to this extent.
Most thru traffic though will never look at the bridge supports though.
No doubt, you likely had this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9085532,-75.1492098,3a,75y,297h,88.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBBA6yn_XigH-j3aFaAQKdQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) in mind when you typed the above.ETA: What the heck, actually? https://goo.gl/maps/QSQhNhBKkVo (https://goo.gl/maps/QSQhNhBKkVo)
ETA2: And it happens with all the pillars at 10th Street, but nowhere else.
You are right about how the pillars at the 9th and 10th Street overpasses (minus the one on the southbound end of the 9th street overpass) are very unique. With the 95 connection ramps in Bucks County, PA opening next August, it's possible that very soon, some through traffic will see those unique pillars as well.
It looks like just some reinforcement to the existing bridge support.
I've seen something like this elsewhere, but not to this extent.
Most thru traffic though will never look at the bridge supports though.
This is common in other states on aging bridges. It's a cheaper way to reinforce a bridge.Cheaper than what? Extra columns? Also the bridges don't even look that old, though maybe because they're nice and polished white.
This is common in other states on aging bridges. It's a cheaper way to reinforce a bridge.Cheaper than what? Extra columns? Also the bridges don't even look that old, though maybe because they're nice and polished white.
This is common in other states on aging bridges. It's a cheaper way to reinforce a bridge.Cheaper than what? Extra columns? Also the bridges don't even look that old, though maybe because they're nice and polished white.
Ninety-five through Wilmington city was built in the mid-'60's.
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FENWICK ISLAND - The Fenwick Town Council has decided to delay until next month consideration of a replacement for Councilman J. Livingston Edwards, who died two weeks ago. Possible replacements will be discussed at the February council meeting. Edwards' term expires in August. The council has also decided to ask the State Highway Division to rename the portion of Delaware 14 that goes through Fenwick the '"Fisher-Edwards Memorial Highway" for Edmond Fisher, one of the town founders and a former councilman, and Edwards. The two men died within a few months of each other and had been active in town affairs for many years.
Hey, it's the next best thing to making a freeway on the Atlantic Coast.
Hey, it's the next best thing to making a freeway on the Atlantic Coast.
:thumbsup:
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I hope alt 3 is selected just because there's nothing like it anywhere else. But really, what's the problem here? Is it the SB weave between cloverloops? If so 2 is probably the best option, to avoid too much encouragement of shunpiking by making 896 SB any more free-flowing.
I suppose the new 301 connection to DE 1 would take the 301-bound traffic out of this interchange, but I'm sure they took that into account and that it still needs improvements otherwise.Well, if not going to 301, and not diverting to 40 (trucks especially) to shun the pike, what else is the reason to take 896 here? They may as well reinstate the Exit 1 ramp tolls.
There's a lot of locals that take this exit, both towards Newark and Bear. Actually, the 95 South to 896 South may be the heavier of the two during afternoon rush hours. And because of traffic that insists on cutting in at the last moment, there's a lot of accidents in this area. I've seen traffic backing up a few miles approaching this exit, and because of the 'staying left until late' effect, it can slow the whole highway between the Delaware Service Plaza and Exit 1.
Of course, there's the shun-piking that goes on here too, but during the rush hour that's fairly minor compared to all the Delaware tags that are seen using these ramps.
Personally, #2 should do the job. #1 is good but a little overkill. #3 is designed by the intern who absolutely must redesign even the simplest intersection between every driveway and side street into an interchange with a DDI.
301 traffic really isn't a congestion-causing issue here, because the delays come from the locals in the area during rush hour.
If one's in a passenger vehicle, yes; but if one's in a commercial truck, that route does has a signed 'Thru-Truck' traffic prohibition.There's a lot of locals that take this exit, both towards Newark and Bear. Actually, the 95 South to 896 South may be the heavier of the two during afternoon rush hours. And because of traffic that insists on cutting in at the last moment, there's a lot of accidents in this area. I've seen traffic backing up a few miles approaching this exit, and because of the 'staying left until late' effect, it can slow the whole highway between the Delaware Service Plaza and Exit 1.I always thought the most direct shun-piking used 896 NB to DE 4 and DE 279, at least until they rehab DE 279 and take it down to one lane in each direction during construction.
Of course, there's the shun-piking that goes on here too, but during the rush hour that's fairly minor compared to all the Delaware tags that are seen using these ramps.
Personally, #2 should do the job. #1 is good but a little overkill. #3 is designed by the intern who absolutely must redesign even the simplest intersection between every driveway and side street into an interchange with a DDI.
301 traffic really isn't a congestion-causing issue here, because the delays come from the locals in the area during rush hour.
The Delaware Department of Transportation is studying several options for redesigning the Interstate 95 and Del. 896 interchange in Newark.
The busy interchange has seen 400 crashes in the last four years, project manager Breanna Kovach said.
“We have an immediate safety need, and in the future, volumes are going to increase,” Kovach said. “We need to fix it.”
The project is estimated to cost between $124 million and $141 million. Each of the proposals would improve the interchange, but the more expensive option offers the most improvement, Kovach said.
DelDOT is accepting public comments for the next month and will announce its preferred design in the spring.
Construction could begin as early as the summer of 2022 and will take nearly three years to complete, Kovach said.
For more information, visit https://deldot.gov/information/projects/i95/i95_sr896/index.shtml.
More on the I-95/SR 896 interchange redesign Alex posted about up thread.
DelDOT unveils ideas for improving I-95/Del. 896 interchange (http://www.cecildaily.com/news/state_news/article_c8a2a2e9-560d-5ccb-aac1-478514c119e9.html)
^ With AET, you don't even need ramp tolls...just put a mainline overhead up somewhere east of DE 896 and lower the tolls at the state line accordingly.There are two ways to do it and capture all of the traffic you want to capture. Given that you're talking AET, the existing booths would have to be significantly reworked anyway. So you can either build two new mainline gantries, or one new mainline gantry and two ramp gantries. From experience, the easiest solution by far is to get all of the toll points as close together as possible, meaning locate the mainline AET just beyond the 896 interchange so that it can possibly share infrastructure with the ramp tolls.
^ With AET, you don't even need ramp tolls...just put a mainline overhead up somewhere east of DE 896 and lower the tolls at the state line accordingly.
Delaware makes sure that they are inconveniencing their residents the least, which is why I-95 only has one toll at the state border, and why DE 1's tolls are $1 weekdays but $3 on the weekends.
If a toll point were to be installed north of Rt. 896, it would dramatically increase the number of vehicles exiting at Rt. 273. The interchange is already over-utilized at rush hour, and traffic would then try to get to Old Baltimore Pike, a wide but 1-lane per direction roadway which congests already. This would all wind up in the thread regarding fixing one problem but creating problems elsewhere.
In my fantasy world, Delaware would be tolling all traffic on the Delaware Turnpike part of I-95 - from the mainline barrier between the state line and DE-896, as far east (north) as present-day Exit 4 at DE-7.Do keep in mind that the original plan for the Delaware Turnpike portion of I-95 was to have all the tolls eliminated once the original bonds that initially built the road were paid off.
I do not remember there being any tolls on the ramps at DE-141 or beyond.By beyond I'm assuming that you mean north or east of the DE 141 interchange. There's good reason for that. I-95 north of there is not part of the Delaware Turnpike system.
In my fantasy world, Delaware would be tolling all traffic on the Delaware Turnpike part of I-95 - from the mainline barrier between the state line and DE-896, as far east (north) as present-day Exit 4 at DE-7.Do keep in mind that the original plan for the Delaware Turnpike portion of I-95 was to have all the tolls eliminated once the original bonds that initially built the road were paid off.I do not remember there being any tolls on the ramps at DE-141 or beyond.By beyond I'm assuming that you mean north or east of the DE 141 interchange. There's good reason for that. I-95 north of there is not part of the Delaware Turnpike system.
Anyway if Delaware was serious about reducing traffic exiting and bypassing the tollbooths (which are only there because of that portion of I-95 is the Delaware Turnpike and not due to waterway crossing); they could rationalize (i.e. lower) that extortion-like $4 toll and/or reinstate E-ZPass discounts. While doing such would mean that less money would be collected per vehicle; the overall revenue collected could be higher and the local roads won't be as flooded with through-traffic as it is now.
In my fantasy world, Delaware would be tolling all traffic on the Delaware Turnpike part of I-95 - from the mainline barrier between the state line and DE-896, as far east (north) as present-day Exit 4 at DE-7.Do keep in mind that the original plan for the Delaware Turnpike portion of I-95 was to have all the tolls eliminated once the original bonds that initially built the road were paid off.
I do not remember there being any tolls on the ramps at DE-141 or beyond.By beyond I'm assuming that you mean north or east of the DE 141 interchange. There's good reason for that. I-95 north of there is not part of the Delaware Turnpike system.
Anyway if Delaware was serious about reducing traffic exiting and bypassing the tollbooths (which are only there because of that portion of I-95 is the Delaware Turnpike and not due to waterway crossing); they could rationalize (i.e. lower) that extortion-like $4 toll and/or reinstate E-ZPass discounts. While doing such would mean that less money would be collected per vehicle; the overall revenue collected could be higher and the local roads won't be as flooded with through-traffic as it is now.
The mileage sign formerly affixed to the 18th Street overpass was relocated northward in place of what was a sign listing the distances to Chester and Philadelphia (https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware095/i-095_nb_exit_009_01.jpg).
(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware095/i-095_nb_exit_008_05.jpg)
Problem with this is that the sign was not updated to reflect the shorter distance, so the 3 miles listed for SR 3 is actually 1.1 mile. Thanks to Bob for the heads up.
Also unfortunately the state named shield for I-95 at 8th and Jackson Streets in Wilmington is no more. The assembly was removed completely, without a neutered replacement. That leaves just one state-named shield in all of Delaware.
Spotted today also a third monotube assembly for I-95 in Wilmington in addition to the two that Dan posted on the NERoads FB group. The new overhead is on SR 52 / Delaware Avenue north.
[T]he state named shield for I-95 at 8th and Jackson Streets in Wilmington is no more. The assembly was removed completely, without a neutered replacement. That leaves just one state-named shield in all of Delaware.
Delawareonline had a neat '50s picture of the Five Points intersection in Lewes in an
article (http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/local/delaware/2017/12/20/five-points-traffic-lewes/964755001/) today about a rekindled push to fix the intersection.
(https://image.prntscr.com/image/jotSx6DZRwe2djc84zAZYQ.png)
Was heading south from Wilmington last night on I-95 and noticed new APL signs for I-295 North. The interesting thing is they have now assigned an exit number (5C) to I-295 going southbound, whereas there was no exit number previously. However, it has yet to be signed (if it will be) on I-95 North. Also unknown is if the I-495 exit will receive an exit number. Going south from PA, the I-495 split does have an exit number (Exit 11) on I-95, though that is the same exit number as Naamans Road (which shares the I-495 ramp southbound but has its own ramp northbound).
Was heading south from Wilmington last night on I-95 and noticed new APL signs for I-295 North. The interesting thing is they have now assigned an exit number (5C) to I-295 going southbound, whereas there was no exit number previously. However, it has yet to be signed (if it will be) on I-95 North. Also unknown is if the I-495 exit will receive an exit number. Going south from PA, the I-495 split does have an exit number (Exit 11) on I-95, though that is the same exit number as Naamans Road (which shares the I-495 ramp southbound but has its own ramp northbound).
Didn't there used to be one sign (just one) with an exit number for 495 from 95 north? I believe it was called Exit 5D on the one sign, but I don't recall 5C being used which I presume was intended for 295. 5A-B being for 141 with the 141 exits conflating with the split for 295 complicates things.
Was heading south from Wilmington last night on I-95 and noticed new APL signs for I-295 North. The interesting thing is they have now assigned an exit number (5C) to I-295 going southbound, whereas there was no exit number previously. However, it has yet to be signed (if it will be) on I-95 North. Also unknown is if the I-495 exit will receive an exit number. Going south from PA, the I-495 split does have an exit number (Exit 11) on I-95, though that is the same exit number as Naamans Road (which shares the I-495 ramp southbound but has its own ramp northbound).
Didn't there used to be one sign (just one) with an exit number for 495 from 95 north? I believe it was called Exit 5D on the one sign, but I don't recall 5C being used which I presume was intended for 295. 5A-B being for 141 with the 141 exits conflating with the split for 295 complicates things.
Yep - the interchange with 141 and the interchange with 495 shouldn't have anything to do with each other, but because Delaware still uses sequential numbering, and being the MLK Interchange is Exit 6, Delaware has themselves in a tight stop and has to use Exit 5C/D with I-495.
Of the remaining sequentially numbered states, Delaware usually isn't talked about because of how short it is. If DE moved to mileage-based numbering, the exit numbers would roughly double. Rt. 141 should really be Exit 10 or 11; I-495 should be Exit 12.
And then there's DE 1 whose exits (and grade-separated intersections south of Dover) have kilometer-based numbers (but mileposts, rather than kilometer-posts, south of the C&D Canal).
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The DelPike's toll booth actually rated a postcard that found its way to Ebay...Any pics of the original Delaware (Welcome Center) House available?
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/3NMAAOSwn25aJn73/s-l300.jpg)
And here are Kennedy and Govs. J. Millard Tawes (MD) (left) and Elbert "Bert" Carvel (DE) (right) at the dedication of theWilmington-to-BaltimoreDE 141-to-MD 43 segment, with a replica Mason-Dixon stone in the median. The MD segment was originally called the Northeastern Expressway.
A week later, JFK went to Dallas.
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-52856d90/turbine/ph-ag-jfk-highway-50-anniversary-1113-20131114)
And a Baltimore Sun retrospective article about the opening.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/harford/fallston-joppa/ph-ag-jfk-highway-50-anniversary-1113-20131114-story.html
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Has a scheduled completion date been announced for the widening of I-295 in Delaware?
A couple of things:The mileage sign formerly affixed to the 18th Street overpass was relocated northward in place of what was a sign listing the distances to Chester and Philadelphia (https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware095/i-095_nb_exit_009_01.jpg).
(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware095/i-095_nb_exit_008_05.jpg)
Also notable is that they're still placing the BGSs on overpasses. Other states are moving away from that, putting the BGSs on their own structures.
A couple of things:The mileage sign formerly affixed to the 18th Street overpass was relocated northward in place of what was a sign listing the distances to Chester and Philadelphia (https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware095/i-095_nb_exit_009_01.jpg).
(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware095/i-095_nb_exit_008_05.jpg)
Also notable is that they're still placing the BGSs on overpasses. Other states are moving away from that, putting the BGSs on their own structures.
2. Those overpass-mounted BGS' in the pic. are at least a decade old and likely predated states phasing out that practice.
Only the lower EXIT ONLY portion of that Exit 8 sign changed; the green portion of the sign is unchanged (& years older).A couple of things:The mileage sign formerly affixed to the 18th Street overpass was relocated northward in place of what was a sign listing the distances to Chester and Philadelphia (https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware095/i-095_nb_exit_009_01.jpg).
(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware095/i-095_nb_exit_008_05.jpg)
Also notable is that they're still placing the BGSs on overpasses. Other states are moving away from that, putting the BGSs on their own structures.
2. Those overpass-mounted BGS' in the pic. are at least a decade old and likely predated states phasing out that practice.
The 2 lane exit is a result of the recent 95/202 interchange construction project. The sign is newer than June, 2012, which is the date of this historic GSV: https://goo.gl/maps/MRBUb6aDdA42
Only the lower EXIT ONLY portion of that Exit 8 sign changed; the green portion of the sign is unchanged (& years older).A couple of things:The mileage sign formerly affixed to the 18th Street overpass was relocated northward in place of what was a sign listing the distances to Chester and Philadelphia (https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware095/i-095_nb_exit_009_01.jpg).
(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/delaware095/i-095_nb_exit_008_05.jpg)
Also notable is that they're still placing the BGSs on overpasses. Other states are moving away from that, putting the BGSs on their own structures.
2. Those overpass-mounted BGS' in the pic. are at least a decade old and likely predated states phasing out that practice.
The 2 lane exit is a result of the recent 95/202 interchange construction project. The sign is newer than June, 2012, which is the date of this historic GSV: https://goo.gl/maps/MRBUb6aDdA42
Is Delaware still using Clearview in new signs? Good thing they didn't replace the whole sign, since it would've definitely (at least at the time) been Clearview. :PSome recent (within the past year) DelDOT installs along I-495 were still Clearview and oversized. Guess on my part but those likely were approved/submitted just prior to the feds revoking the interim use of the Clearview font.
that being said, the new signage on I-95 NB approaching the I-295 split (for Exit 5 / DE 141 SB (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6950023,-75.6206838,3a,75y,47.57h,82.47t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sS7IjBgB3l58Cm7cJNuAoGg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)) is in FHWA.Is Delaware still using Clearview in new signs? Good thing they didn't replace the whole sign, since it would've definitely (at least at the time) been Clearview. :PSome recent (within the past year) DelDOT installs along I-495 were still Clearview and oversized. Guess on my part but those likely were approved/submitted just prior to the feds revoking the interim use of the Clearview font.
Some of the surrounding signage at the I-95/US 202/DE 202 interchange is newer and features oversized Clearview.
I-495's merge with (NB) and split from (SB) 95 at the north end could use direct connections between 495 and DE 92 (Naamans Rd.), so that users of that road (and patrons of Northtowne Plaza and Tristate Mall) don't have to negotiate U.S. 13 (Philadelphia Pike) to access 495 and vice versa.
https://tinyurl.com/y727sgp2
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Both directions would have weaving. It's less than 2,000 feet from where the ramp would join I-495 SB to the takeoff for US 13.I-495's merge with (NB) and split from (SB) 95 at the north end could use direct connections between 495 and DE 92 (Naamans Rd.), so that users of that road (and patrons of Northtowne Plaza and Tristate Mall) don't have to negotiate U.S. 13 (Philadelphia Pike) to access 495 and vice versa.
https://tinyurl.com/y727sgp2
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Tri-State Mall is virtually dead right now. That said, if any sort of redevelopment occurs (as government officials want), maybe traffic counts will warrant it. The ramp to DE 92 from I-495 NB might be harder due to weaving, but there is less rationale for not building a ramp split from DE 92 to southbound I-495 from the current I-95 onramp.
With the interchanges coming in - why are right-in and right-out movements permitted? Shouldn't these be eliminated in favor of a full freeway?Yeeeeeeah. But the cost of doing so may outweigh the benefit, so you end up with NY Parkway-style median closures instead. It's still technically a freeway, just not up to standards.
I'm thinking that in this case, with the DE 14 interchange being right next to a right-in and right-out for a frontage road that's served by the interchange immediately next to it, why not close it? Going further south, I could see that - considering that DE 1 will never be a full freeway towards Maryland.I was answering more in general, since there are other RIROs south of Dover.
Was heading south from Wilmington last night on I-95 and noticed new APL signs for I-295 North. The interesting thing is they have now assigned an exit number (5C) to I-295 going southbound, whereas there was no exit number previously. However, it has yet to be signed (if it will be) on I-95 North. Also unknown is if the I-495 exit will receive an exit number. Going south from PA, the I-495 split does have an exit number (Exit 11) on I-95, though that is the same exit number as Naamans Road (which shares the I-495 ramp southbound but has its own ramp northbound).
It should be noted that the RIRO in question (next to Royal Farms) is actually going to be part of the interchange. While called the "DE 14 interchange" by some, the actual location of the overpass will be at the next downstream intersection. The existing DE 14 intersection will become a RIRO for local access.
As a longtime resident of New Road, I have a vested interest in seeing a thoughtful, balanced approach in managing the inevitable growth with the need for safe, flowing traffic.
With that in mind, I agree with the Lewes City Council concerning the likelihood of substantially increasing traffic on New Road. That scenario, along with the sale of the Groome land, will make the situation untenable.
Senate Bill 141 would add DelDOT employees who regularly work on roads to the list of state workers who qualify for extra pay on the basis of risky aspects of their job. Under the bill, about 650 employees would receive an extra $2,320 annually, and 350 would earn another $1,100.
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Currently, the only state employees earning hazard duty pay are those who work in the state’s prisons, psychiatric center or juvenile detention facilities.
A bill has been introduced (again) in Dover to give road workers hazard pay.
https://delawarestatenews.net/news/should-deldot-workers-get-hazard-pay/QuoteSenate Bill 141 would add DelDOT employees who regularly work on roads to the list of state workers who qualify for extra pay on the basis of risky aspects of their job. Under the bill, about 650 employees would receive an extra $2,320 annually, and 350 would earn another $1,100.
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A bill has been introduced (again) in Dover to give road workers hazard pay.
https://delawarestatenews.net/news/should-deldot-workers-get-hazard-pay/QuoteSenate Bill 141 would add DelDOT employees who regularly work on roads to the list of state workers who qualify for extra pay on the basis of risky aspects of their job. Under the bill, about 650 employees would receive an extra $2,320 annually, and 350 would earn another $1,100.
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Motorists really don't think anything of it, passing by a person standing just a few feet away at 75 mph. These same people, at home, will yell at someone they perceive going 25 mph in a 20 zone.
A bill has been introduced (again) in Dover to give road workers hazard pay.
https://delawarestatenews.net/news/should-deldot-workers-get-hazard-pay/QuoteSenate Bill 141 would add DelDOT employees who regularly work on roads to the list of state workers who qualify for extra pay on the basis of risky aspects of their job. Under the bill, about 650 employees would receive an extra $2,320 annually, and 350 would earn another $1,100.
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Motorists really don't think anything of it, passing by a person standing just a few feet away at 75 mph. These same people, at home, will yell at someone they perceive going 25 mph in a 20 zone.
It's still dangerous and can be deadly. Ask the family of this PennDOT foreman who was killed setting up flares on I-99 recently.
http://www.mcall.com/opinion/muschick/mc-opi-penndot-worker-killed-accident-construction-zone-20180221-story.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3652018/posts
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But in my estimation, the PTC and other highway agencies undermine their efforts when they set the same low speed limits for nearly every work zone– seemingly without regard for the extent to which work is actively taking place or people are actually in danger.^^This. There have been many times I driven through a posted work zone with the lower speed limit and saw absolutely nothing in terms of barriers, barricades, vehicles, equipment and/or workers. And no, there were no traces of blown-over tarps on the signs.
I generally think that “slow down” PSAs are pretty ineffective, but the ones that the PTC has been using lately are reasonably thought-provoking, in my opinion. The ads, on billboards and banners in service plazas, show a stern-looking construction worker with a caption that reads something like “If you hit me at 55 MPH, you will break my bones. At 70, I will die.” It’s a compelling counterargument for someone who might think... 55, 65, 75–what’s the big difference?
But in my estimation, the PTC and other highway agencies undermine their efforts when they set the same low speed limits for nearly every work zone–seemingly without regard for the extent to which work is actively taking place or people are actually in danger.
But in my estimation, the PTC and other highway agencies undermine their efforts when they set the same low speed limits for nearly every work zone–seemingly without regard for the extent to which work is actively taking place or people are actually in danger.
Noticed on my E-ZPass statement that Delaware does distance based tolling on Route 1, which I did not know existed (and DelDOT does not seem to advertise). Within the tolled sections of Route 1 between Smyrna and Dover, there are E-ZPass readers over ramps where tolls are not normally collected. I had to stop for gas while going southbound and got off at North Smyrna (US 13), re-entering south of town. My E-ZPass statement showed the $1 at the Dover toll plaza but then a $0.25 credit from the South Smyrna ramp.
Noticed on my E-ZPass statement that Delaware does distance based tolling on Route 1, which I did not know existed (and DelDOT does not seem to advertise). Within the tolled sections of Route 1 between Smyrna and Dover, there are E-ZPass readers over ramps where tolls are not normally collected. I had to stop for gas while going southbound and got off at North Smyrna (US 13), re-entering south of town. My E-ZPass statement showed the $1 at the Dover toll plaza but then a $0.25 credit from the South Smyrna ramp.Yup. I've noticed that too. I remember when I first moved to DE, I thought I'd be charged a toll getting on DE-1 North at Exit 142 (DE-896/south of the canal), but never saw it show up on my E-ZPass statement.
I read someplace (here?) that the Maine Turnpike does distance-based tolls for E-ZPass patrons too.They do, but I believe only for Maine E-ZPass holders.
They do, but I believe only for Maine E-ZPass holders.
"[R]roadway departure crashes are one of our strategic safety emphasis areas, and over the past several years, DelDOT has been installing a high-tension cable barrier system along (Del.) 1 in all identified high-risk areas – around curves, smaller width medians, high traffic volumes and high crash areas.
“Beyond installing additional median barriers along our freeways, other programs being implemented related to roadway departure crashes include high friction surface treatments, rumble strips, safety edge and updated horizontal curve warning signs.”
LITTLE HEAVEN, Del. --- Next summer, beach travelers in Delaware will soon be able to pass through Little Heaven without backups from traffic at the intersection with Bowers Beach Road.
DelDOT plans to finish construction on the new grade-separated interchange at Bowers Beach road later this year, which will allow drivers who are passing through Little Heaven to remain on Route 1 by traveling over the existing intersection.
Drivers who are traveling to Bowers Beach or Little Heaven will be able to get off Route 1 and travel underneath Route 1 to access those communities.
Currently, an intersection on Route 1 at Bowers Beach Road uses a street light to allow cars to get across Route 1. The current configuration occasionally backs up traffic on Route 1, especially during beach weekends when vehicles traveling at high rates of speed are forced to come to a stop at the intersection.
MILTON, Del.- After converting part of the Cave Neck Road / Sweetbriar Road / Hudson Road intersection into a one way, the Delaware Department of Transportation says they are planning long term improvements to the area.
"Does the roadway need to be realigned? Would a roundabout possibly work there?" says DelDOT Director of Community Relations C.R. McLeod. "[We are] just looking at all the solutions and we will be partnering with the community to determine what the best long term solution is."
I've lived in 3 states and I heard this in each one. No state is special in this regard....
Reader slams DelDOT over constant road construction
https://www.delawareonline.com/story/opinion/readers/2018/10/02/reader-has-suggestions-fix-deldot/1498714002/ (https://www.delawareonline.com/story/opinion/readers/2018/10/02/reader-has-suggestions-fix-deldot/1498714002/)
I've lived in 3 states and I heard this in each one. No state is special in this regard....
Reader slams DelDOT over constant road construction
https://www.delawareonline.com/story/opinion/readers/2018/10/02/reader-has-suggestions-fix-deldot/1498714002/ (https://www.delawareonline.com/story/opinion/readers/2018/10/02/reader-has-suggestions-fix-deldot/1498714002/)
Yeah I figured. It just gets old hearing the same thing over and over again, even on other issues like, "Oh the weather is unpredictable, that's Delaware for you!" (I heard this all the time in PA and CT, it's not just DE), etc.I've lived in 3 states and I heard this in each one. No state is special in this regard....
Reader slams DelDOT over constant road construction
https://www.delawareonline.com/story/opinion/readers/2018/10/02/reader-has-suggestions-fix-deldot/1498714002/ (https://www.delawareonline.com/story/opinion/readers/2018/10/02/reader-has-suggestions-fix-deldot/1498714002/)
Not supposed to be special, it's just a post. to anyone who wanted to see the stupidity
Yeah I figured. It just gets old hearing the same thing over and over again, even on other issues like, "Oh the weather is unpredictable, that's Delaware for you!" (I heard this all the time in PA and CT, it's not just DE), etc.I've lived in 3 states and I heard this in each one. No state is special in this regard....
Reader slams DelDOT over constant road construction
https://www.delawareonline.com/story/opinion/readers/2018/10/02/reader-has-suggestions-fix-deldot/1498714002/ (https://www.delawareonline.com/story/opinion/readers/2018/10/02/reader-has-suggestions-fix-deldot/1498714002/)
Not supposed to be special, it's just a post. to anyone who wanted to see the stupidity
Yeah I figured. It just gets old hearing the same thing over and over again, even on other issues like, "Oh the weather is unpredictable, that's Delaware for you!" (I heard this all the time in PA and CT, it's not just DE), etc.I've lived in 3 states and I heard this in each one. No state is special in this regard....
Reader slams DelDOT over constant road construction
https://www.delawareonline.com/story/opinion/readers/2018/10/02/reader-has-suggestions-fix-deldot/1498714002/ (https://www.delawareonline.com/story/opinion/readers/2018/10/02/reader-has-suggestions-fix-deldot/1498714002/)
Not supposed to be special, it's just a post. to anyone who wanted to see the stupidity
And thats the problem, why would people complain about things they do use or do not use.
And, finally, a question: How does the Delaware Memorial Bridge end up going from four lanes – which is a rare occurrence to have all four lanes open – to 12 toll lanes feeding into two lanes? Well done!
How close *is* the U.S. 301 toll road to opening?
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How close *is* the U.S. 301 toll road to opening?
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New Years Day according to EZPass's website. (https://www.ezpassde.com/pages/FAQs.shtml) The opening date had been originally pegged for December 2018 but given all the rain we've gotten this year the slight push back doesn't surprise me.
Interestingly the construction plans for the US 301 toll road show the first two interchanges as having toll plazas, even though the newest Google imagery as well as DelDOT's aerial videos show what appear to be the foundations for the E-ZPass gantries being built.Probably miscommunication. Everything on the 301 is paperless & peopleless. They will send you a bill of the toll. If you dont have Ezpass.
Interestingly the construction plans for the US 301 toll road show the first two interchanges as having toll plazas, even though the newest Google imagery as well as DelDOT's aerial videos show what appear to be the foundations for the E-ZPass gantries being built.Probably miscommunication. Everything on the 301 is paperless & peopleless. They will send you a bill of the toll. If you dont have Ezpass.
Interestingly the construction plans for the US 301 toll road show the first two interchanges as having toll plazas, even though the newest Google imagery as well as DelDOT's aerial videos show what appear to be the foundations for the E-ZPass gantries being built.
Did they ever confirm that the spur would be signed as "US 301 Spur"? If so, will that designation end right before the bridge or will it continue north to US 40 or I-95?
Did they ever confirm that the spur would be signed as "US 301 Spur"? If so, will that designation end right before the bridge or will it continue north to US 40 or I-95?They should pull a Wilmington and call it DE 301. But I would honestly be surprised that AASHTO would allow a "Spur" signed US highway. I can think of many plausible state numbers... 340 (from 301 to 40) or 395, 302 or 303, 19 (since it's west of 15).
They will probably build the spur the same time they build the 896/40 interchange & the 896/I-95 Interchange.
So the spur road would likely be completed now or then.They will probably build the spur the same time they build the 896/40 interchange & the 896/I-95 Interchange.
The SR 896 / US 40 interchange is slated for summer 2022 and the SR 896 / I-95 interchange is slated for spring 2023, there is no date set for the spur road.
I wonder when the spur route to the summit bridge will be built. How will that affect the speed of traffic when you approach the first light. Since i know people will be speeding since it will be built to “freeway standards” . Im sure this will cause another housing boom in that part of middletown as wellWhen you say first light, which one do you mean? The one at DE-896 and DE-71/Brennan Boulevard?
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I wonder when the spur route to the summit bridge will be built. How will that affect the speed of traffic when you approach the first light. Since i know people will be speeding since it will be built to “freeway standards” . Im sure this will cause another housing boom in that part of middletown as wellWhen you say first light, which one do you mean? The one at DE-896 and DE-71/Brennan Boulevard?
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When I was commuting down DE-896 from Newark to Dover, I definitely recall being passed by drivers going at least 70 on the road. Personally I wouldn't expect it to be too much different, but if there are enough crashes at the light there, then it would be put up for review for a red light camera.
From the plans I remember seeing, isn't the spur route just two lanes?
Yes. Thats the light & the 2nd light is the reconstructed HowellSchool Road. & then after that is Porter road. You think a red light camera would help? I think it might cause even more crashes.I wonder when the spur route to the summit bridge will be built. How will that affect the speed of traffic when you approach the first light. Since i know people will be speeding since it will be built to “freeway standards” . Im sure this will cause another housing boom in that part of middletown as wellWhen you say first light, which one do you mean? The one at DE-896 and DE-71/Brennan Boulevard?
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When I was commuting down DE-896 from Newark to Dover, I definitely recall being passed by drivers going at least 70 on the road. Personally I wouldn't expect it to be too much different, but if there are enough crashes at the light there, then it would be put up for review for a red light camera.
From the plans I remember seeing, isn't the spur route just two lanes?
Yes. Thats the light & the 2nd light is the reconstructed HowellSchool Road. & then after that is Porter road. You think a red light camera would help? I think it might cause even more crashes.It may cause a few more rear end crashes in the short term, but in the long term it would reduce angle crashes which are generally much nastier than rear endings. However, red light cameras are beyond the scope of my office (they're administered by another division of DelDOT), so I can't really comment much further.
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So would a speed clock be put on the bridge you think? I know undercover State Troopers sit on the bridge sometimes to catch speeders. But I doubt they will do that when traffic on the bridge is doubled because of the spur road. I wonder why they would plan interchanges at all major intersections but try to have it as safe as a neighborhood road.Yes. Thats the light & the 2nd light is the reconstructed HowellSchool Road. & then after that is Porter road. You think a red light camera would help? I think it might cause even more crashes.It may cause a few more rear end crashes in the short term, but in the long term it would reduce angle crashes which are generally much nastier than rear endings. However, red light cameras are beyond the scope of my office (they're administered by another division of DelDOT), so I can't really comment much further.
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Would traffic on the bridge double with the spur road? Middletown-Wilmington traffic would be more likely to just take DE-1 to US-301, right (I get that US-301 will have a hefty toll, but Middletown seems pretty wealthy)? From my experience of driving on US-301 in Maryland (on the Eastern Shore side), I doubt there's enough traffic there to double the traffic on DE-896, especially if it's long-distance traffic between either Washington-Philadelphia or Richmond-Philadelphia.So would a speed clock be put on the bridge you think? I know undercover State Troopers sit on the bridge sometimes to catch speeders. But I doubt they will do that when traffic on the bridge is doubled because of the spur road. I wonder why they would plan interchanges at all major intersections but try to have it as safe as a neighborhood road.Yes. Thats the light & the 2nd light is the reconstructed HowellSchool Road. & then after that is Porter road. You think a red light camera would help? I think it might cause even more crashes.It may cause a few more rear end crashes in the short term, but in the long term it would reduce angle crashes which are generally much nastier than rear endings. However, red light cameras are beyond the scope of my office (they're administered by another division of DelDOT), so I can't really comment much further.
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If traffic "doubles on the bridge", it's not going to be because of the spur road. It'll be because of development in and around Middletown. And most of that development would still be using existing 301 to get to the bridge. It'd be backtracking for most of Middletown to access the spur via the future DE 299 interchange.Well what if De-1 is backed up. Because traffic is already heavy on De-1 with out without 301 merging on to it. & people take the spur road to avoid this traffic jam. Or do you think delaware will widen the 1 to 4 lanes by this time?
Considering the scenes I'd see on DE-896 South when I was going Dover to Newark during rush hour, I don't think people would really consider DE-896 to be an acceptable alternative. I mean it is an alternative, but there are still tons of lights between I-95 and the Summit Bridge they'd have to deal with (though maybe the grade separation at US-40 would be helpful).If traffic "doubles on the bridge", it's not going to be because of the spur road. It'll be because of development in and around Middletown. And most of that development would still be using existing 301 to get to the bridge. It'd be backtracking for most of Middletown to access the spur via the future DE 299 interchange.Well what if De-1 is backed up. Because traffic is already heavy on De-1 with out without 301 merging on to it. & people take the spur road to avoid this traffic jam.
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That is true. That grade Seperation @40 might make all the difference. But I just wonder if the speed limit will remain the same or a change will be made. & with all the housing developments being built. I can asure we can expect big trafficConsidering the scenes I'd see on DE-896 South when I was going Dover to Newark during rush hour, I don't think people would really consider DE-896 to be an acceptable alternative. I mean it is an alternative, but there are still tons of lights between I-95 and the Summit Bridge they'd have to deal with (though maybe the grade separation at US-40 would be helpful).If traffic "doubles on the bridge", it's not going to be because of the spur road. It'll be because of development in and around Middletown. And most of that development would still be using existing 301 to get to the bridge. It'd be backtracking for most of Middletown to access the spur via the future DE 299 interchange.Well what if De-1 is backed up. Because traffic is already heavy on De-1 with out without 301 merging on to it. & people take the spur road to avoid this traffic jam.
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Well the statutory maximum speed limit on a divided highway is 55 (http://delcode.delaware.gov/title21/c041/sc08/), so it can only go down, except on the section north of US-40 where it's 50, I believe.That is true. That grade Seperation @40 might make all the difference. But I just wonder if the speed limit will remain the same or a change will be made. & with all the housing developments being built. I can asure we can expect big trafficConsidering the scenes I'd see on DE-896 South when I was going Dover to Newark during rush hour, I don't think people would really consider DE-896 to be an acceptable alternative. I mean it is an alternative, but there are still tons of lights between I-95 and the Summit Bridge they'd have to deal with (though maybe the grade separation at US-40 would be helpful).If traffic "doubles on the bridge", it's not going to be because of the spur road. It'll be because of development in and around Middletown. And most of that development would still be using existing 301 to get to the bridge. It'd be backtracking for most of Middletown to access the spur via the future DE 299 interchange.Well what if De-1 is backed up. Because traffic is already heavy on De-1 with out without 301 merging on to it. & people take the spur road to avoid this traffic jam.
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I assume people will treat it the same as the folks back then when they made 141 & 13 a interchange. I know those people in the neighborhoods greatly opposed. But between the Airport & the ever growing Route 13. It had to be done.Well the statutory maximum speed limit on a divided highway is 55 (http://delcode.delaware.gov/title21/c041/sc08/), so it can only go down, except on the section north of US-40 where it's 50, I believe.That is true. That grade Seperation @40 might make all the difference. But I just wonder if the speed limit will remain the same or a change will be made. & with all the housing developments being built. I can asure we can expect big trafficConsidering the scenes I'd see on DE-896 South when I was going Dover to Newark during rush hour, I don't think people would really consider DE-896 to be an acceptable alternative. I mean it is an alternative, but there are still tons of lights between I-95 and the Summit Bridge they'd have to deal with (though maybe the grade separation at US-40 would be helpful).If traffic "doubles on the bridge", it's not going to be because of the spur road. It'll be because of development in and around Middletown. And most of that development would still be using existing 301 to get to the bridge. It'd be backtracking for most of Middletown to access the spur via the future DE 299 interchange.Well what if De-1 is backed up. Because traffic is already heavy on De-1 with out without 301 merging on to it. & people take the spur road to avoid this traffic jam.
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Well the statutory maximum speed limit on a divided highway is 55 (http://delcode.delaware.gov/title21/c041/sc08/), so it can only go down, except on the section north of US-40 where it's 50, I believe.That is true. That grade Seperation @40 might make all the difference. But I just wonder if the speed limit will remain the same or a change will be made. & with all the housing developments being built. I can asure we can expect big trafficConsidering the scenes I'd see on DE-896 South when I was going Dover to Newark during rush hour, I don't think people would really consider DE-896 to be an acceptable alternative. I mean it is an alternative, but there are still tons of lights between I-95 and the Summit Bridge they'd have to deal with (though maybe the grade separation at US-40 would be helpful).If traffic "doubles on the bridge", it's not going to be because of the spur road. It'll be because of development in and around Middletown. And most of that development would still be using existing 301 to get to the bridge. It'd be backtracking for most of Middletown to access the spur via the future DE 299 interchange.Well what if De-1 is backed up. Because traffic is already heavy on De-1 with out without 301 merging on to it. & people take the spur road to avoid this traffic jam.
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Well the statutory maximum speed limit on a divided highway is 55 (http://delcode.delaware.gov/title21/c041/sc08/), so it can only go down, except on the section north of US-40 where it's 50, I believe.That is true. That grade Seperation @40 might make all the difference. But I just wonder if the speed limit will remain the same or a change will be made. & with all the housing developments being built. I can asure we can expect big trafficConsidering the scenes I'd see on DE-896 South when I was going Dover to Newark during rush hour, I don't think people would really consider DE-896 to be an acceptable alternative. I mean it is an alternative, but there are still tons of lights between I-95 and the Summit Bridge they'd have to deal with (though maybe the grade separation at US-40 would be helpful).If traffic "doubles on the bridge", it's not going to be because of the spur road. It'll be because of development in and around Middletown. And most of that development would still be using existing 301 to get to the bridge. It'd be backtracking for most of Middletown to access the spur via the future DE 299 interchange.Well what if De-1 is backed up. Because traffic is already heavy on De-1 with out without 301 merging on to it. & people take the spur road to avoid this traffic jam.
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Except for section B, where it states that Delaware can basically make up whatever speed they want on any road they want, which specifically states it can go up or down. That is how 65 mph is permitted on 95 and 495, and 60 mph on the Puncheon Run Connector, even though the statute states 55 mph on divided roadways.
Do you think 495 speed limit would ever be raised again? 70? 75?Well the statutory maximum speed limit on a divided highway is 55 (http://delcode.delaware.gov/title21/c041/sc08/), so it can only go down, except on the section north of US-40 where it's 50, I believe.That is true. That grade Seperation @40 might make all the difference. But I just wonder if the speed limit will remain the same or a change will be made. & with all the housing developments being built. I can asure we can expect big trafficConsidering the scenes I'd see on DE-896 South when I was going Dover to Newark during rush hour, I don't think people would really consider DE-896 to be an acceptable alternative. I mean it is an alternative, but there are still tons of lights between I-95 and the Summit Bridge they'd have to deal with (though maybe the grade separation at US-40 would be helpful).If traffic "doubles on the bridge", it's not going to be because of the spur road. It'll be because of development in and around Middletown. And most of that development would still be using existing 301 to get to the bridge. It'd be backtracking for most of Middletown to access the spur via the future DE 299 interchange.Well what if De-1 is backed up. Because traffic is already heavy on De-1 with out without 301 merging on to it. & people take the spur road to avoid this traffic jam.
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Except for section B, where it states that Delaware can basically make up whatever speed they want on any road they want, which specifically states it can go up or down. That is how 65 mph is permitted on 95 and 495, and 60 mph on the Puncheon Run Connector, even though the statute states 55 mph on divided roadways.
If Route 1, with its long stretches of flat rural area between Dover and Middletown, is going to remain 65, then 495, being in a fairly urban area, probably would remain 65.Do you think 495 speed limit would ever be raised again? 70? 75?Well the statutory maximum speed limit on a divided highway is 55 (http://delcode.delaware.gov/title21/c041/sc08/), so it can only go down, except on the section north of US-40 where it's 50, I believe.That is true. That grade Seperation @40 might make all the difference. But I just wonder if the speed limit will remain the same or a change will be made. & with all the housing developments being built. I can asure we can expect big trafficConsidering the scenes I'd see on DE-896 South when I was going Dover to Newark during rush hour, I don't think people would really consider DE-896 to be an acceptable alternative. I mean it is an alternative, but there are still tons of lights between I-95 and the Summit Bridge they'd have to deal with (though maybe the grade separation at US-40 would be helpful).If traffic "doubles on the bridge", it's not going to be because of the spur road. It'll be because of development in and around Middletown. And most of that development would still be using existing 301 to get to the bridge. It'd be backtracking for most of Middletown to access the spur via the future DE 299 interchange.Well what if De-1 is backed up. Because traffic is already heavy on De-1 with out without 301 merging on to it. & people take the spur road to avoid this traffic jam.
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Except for section B, where it states that Delaware can basically make up whatever speed they want on any road they want, which specifically states it can go up or down. That is how 65 mph is permitted on 95 and 495, and 60 mph on the Puncheon Run Connector, even though the statute states 55 mph on divided roadways.
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If Route 1, with its long stretches of flat rural area between Dover and Middletown, is going to remain 65, then 495, being in a fairly urban area, probably would remain 65.Do you think 495 speed limit would ever be raised again? 70? 75?Well the statutory maximum speed limit on a divided highway is 55 (http://delcode.delaware.gov/title21/c041/sc08/), so it can only go down, except on the section north of US-40 where it's 50, I believe.That is true. That grade Seperation @40 might make all the difference. But I just wonder if the speed limit will remain the same or a change will be made. & with all the housing developments being built. I can asure we can expect big trafficConsidering the scenes I'd see on DE-896 South when I was going Dover to Newark during rush hour, I don't think people would really consider DE-896 to be an acceptable alternative. I mean it is an alternative, but there are still tons of lights between I-95 and the Summit Bridge they'd have to deal with (though maybe the grade separation at US-40 would be helpful).If traffic "doubles on the bridge", it's not going to be because of the spur road. It'll be because of development in and around Middletown. And most of that development would still be using existing 301 to get to the bridge. It'd be backtracking for most of Middletown to access the spur via the future DE 299 interchange.Well what if De-1 is backed up. Because traffic is already heavy on De-1 with out without 301 merging on to it. & people take the spur road to avoid this traffic jam.
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Except for section B, where it states that Delaware can basically make up whatever speed they want on any road they want, which specifically states it can go up or down. That is how 65 mph is permitted on 95 and 495, and 60 mph on the Puncheon Run Connector, even though the statute states 55 mph on divided roadways.
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I assume our highways will never be signed to true speed. Since people will go over that. But, aren’t there studies that show a high speed limit actually causes people to drive within a safe speed?If Route 1, with its long stretches of flat rural area between Dover and Middletown, is going to remain 65, then 495, being in a fairly urban area, probably would remain 65.Do you think 495 speed limit would ever be raised again? 70? 75?Well the statutory maximum speed limit on a divided highway is 55 (http://delcode.delaware.gov/title21/c041/sc08/), so it can only go down, except on the section north of US-40 where it's 50, I believe.That is true. That grade Seperation @40 might make all the difference. But I just wonder if the speed limit will remain the same or a change will be made. & with all the housing developments being built. I can asure we can expect big trafficConsidering the scenes I'd see on DE-896 South when I was going Dover to Newark during rush hour, I don't think people would really consider DE-896 to be an acceptable alternative. I mean it is an alternative, but there are still tons of lights between I-95 and the Summit Bridge they'd have to deal with (though maybe the grade separation at US-40 would be helpful).If traffic "doubles on the bridge", it's not going to be because of the spur road. It'll be because of development in and around Middletown. And most of that development would still be using existing 301 to get to the bridge. It'd be backtracking for most of Middletown to access the spur via the future DE 299 interchange.Well what if De-1 is backed up. Because traffic is already heavy on De-1 with out without 301 merging on to it. & people take the spur road to avoid this traffic jam.
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Except for section B, where it states that Delaware can basically make up whatever speed they want on any road they want, which specifically states it can go up or down. That is how 65 mph is permitted on 95 and 495, and 60 mph on the Puncheon Run Connector, even though the statute states 55 mph on divided roadways.
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I assume our highways will never be signed to true speed. Since people will go over that. But, aren’t there studies that show a high speed limit actually causes people to drive within a safe speed?If Route 1, with its long stretches of flat rural area between Dover and Middletown, is going to remain 65, then 495, being in a fairly urban area, probably would remain 65.Do you think 495 speed limit would ever be raised again? 70? 75?Well the statutory maximum speed limit on a divided highway is 55 (http://delcode.delaware.gov/title21/c041/sc08/), so it can only go down, except on the section north of US-40 where it's 50, I believe.That is true. That grade Seperation @40 might make all the difference. But I just wonder if the speed limit will remain the same or a change will be made. & with all the housing developments being built. I can asure we can expect big trafficConsidering the scenes I'd see on DE-896 South when I was going Dover to Newark during rush hour, I don't think people would really consider DE-896 to be an acceptable alternative. I mean it is an alternative, but there are still tons of lights between I-95 and the Summit Bridge they'd have to deal with (though maybe the grade separation at US-40 would be helpful).If traffic "doubles on the bridge", it's not going to be because of the spur road. It'll be because of development in and around Middletown. And most of that development would still be using existing 301 to get to the bridge. It'd be backtracking for most of Middletown to access the spur via the future DE 299 interchange.Well what if De-1 is backed up. Because traffic is already heavy on De-1 with out without 301 merging on to it. & people take the spur road to avoid this traffic jam.
Except for section B, where it states that Delaware can basically make up whatever speed they want on any road they want, which specifically states it can go up or down. That is how 65 mph is permitted on 95 and 495, and 60 mph on the Puncheon Run Connector, even though the statute states 55 mph on divided roadways.
Hold on Isn’t I-70 in Pa signed 70Mph with *60Mph caution signs on the curves* couldn’t all the curvy highways have limits raised if they just sign the curves?
Exactly. & it goes through mountains, when I first drove that road. That was the first time I seen trucks take a curve faster then me. If this speed is allowed on a highway like this. Why hasnt speed been bumped up on all the Highways. Clearly all people need is advisory curve signage.I assume our highways will never be signed to true speed. Since people will go over that. But, aren’t there studies that show a high speed limit actually causes people to drive within a safe speed?If Route 1, with its long stretches of flat rural area between Dover and Middletown, is going to remain 65, then 495, being in a fairly urban area, probably would remain 65.Do you think 495 speed limit would ever be raised again? 70? 75?Well the statutory maximum speed limit on a divided highway is 55 (http://delcode.delaware.gov/title21/c041/sc08/), so it can only go down, except on the section north of US-40 where it's 50, I believe.That is true. That grade Seperation @40 might make all the difference. But I just wonder if the speed limit will remain the same or a change will be made. & with all the housing developments being built. I can asure we can expect big trafficConsidering the scenes I'd see on DE-896 South when I was going Dover to Newark during rush hour, I don't think people would really consider DE-896 to be an acceptable alternative. I mean it is an alternative, but there are still tons of lights between I-95 and the Summit Bridge they'd have to deal with (though maybe the grade separation at US-40 would be helpful).If traffic "doubles on the bridge", it's not going to be because of the spur road. It'll be because of development in and around Middletown. And most of that development would still be using existing 301 to get to the bridge. It'd be backtracking for most of Middletown to access the spur via the future DE 299 interchange.Well what if De-1 is backed up. Because traffic is already heavy on De-1 with out without 301 merging on to it. & people take the spur road to avoid this traffic jam.
Except for section B, where it states that Delaware can basically make up whatever speed they want on any road they want, which specifically states it can go up or down. That is how 65 mph is permitted on 95 and 495, and 60 mph on the Puncheon Run Connector, even though the statute states 55 mph on divided roadways.
Hold on Isn’t I-70 in Pa signed 70Mph with *60Mph caution signs on the curves* couldn’t all the curvy highways have limits raised if they just sign the curves?
Do you mean the PA Turnpike? The only parts of I-70 in PA that aren't 55 mph are from the WV state line to Washington and the part on the Turnpike from New Stanton to Breezewood. From Washington to New Stanton and to a lesser extent from Breezewood down to Maryland are too substandard for 65, let alone 70.
There are a lot of curves with advisory speeds on the 70 mph Turnpike, at least on the sections I ever drive. They can usually be safely taken at 80 mph like the rest of the road.
Looks like those are guy wires, right? I’ve found a Limestone Drive in a residential area near Dover, but it doesn’t appear to have a Valero nearby. Perhaps a better photo or an understandable description of the location would enable others to provide a better answer to your question, right?Limestone Road New Castle De.
Those are for stability, not lightning protection.So the weight of the lines & gravity is what causes poles to bend in certain directions. Why not just put a metal pole up. It would reduce the need for all those lines to the ground.
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Without them, the tension in the lines following SR 7 would bend the pole away from the camera.
Because a metal pole would still be dealing with the forces that the power lines are causing in the general direction away from the camera. These guy wires add stability to the power pole by helping to negate those forces. I also think we all can agree that a wooden pole (even with the guy wires) would be much less expensive than a metal pole.I guess thats a better choice. Id just think that a metal pole. & 1 guy wire would be more efficient. All those guy wires there. If a car hits them a good speed it will tear into shreds.
I have never seen more than one guy wire for a pole. What is going on that this needs so many?Lmao, same thing I said. But apparently the Weight of the lines & everything will bend the pole like into a letter r.
I have never seen more than one guy wire for a pole.
That isn't really how that works though. The lines all introduce a certain tension to the pole. You do the math and attach the guy wire appropriately to provide an opposite tension. With the number of attachment points, maybe you need two. Max. They attached a guy wire opposite every single wire attachment! Whoever did that is not a utility engineer.I have never seen more than one guy wire for a pole. What is going on that this needs so many?Lmao, same thing I said. But apparently the Weight of the lines & everything will bend the pole like into a letter r.
I said the same thing. I knew I wasn’t crazy!!!That isn't really how that works though. The lines all introduce a certain tension to the pole. You do the math and attach the guy wire appropriately to provide an opposite tension. With the number of attachment points, maybe you need two. Max. They attached a guy wire opposite every single wire attachment! Whoever did that is not a utility engineer.I have never seen more than one guy wire for a pole. What is going on that this needs so many?Lmao, same thing I said. But apparently the Weight of the lines & everything will bend the pole like into a letter r.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4583265,-75.7316491,3514a,35y,38.8t/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4583265,-75.7316491,3514a,35y,38.8t/data=!3m1!1e3)
Looks like the spur road is actually being worked on, from this Google maps image.
Does anyone know when, the Big interchange project for DE-1/273 is slated to begin?
Yea I forgot about it. When I posted.https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4583265,-75.7316491,3514a,35y,38.8t/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4583265,-75.7316491,3514a,35y,38.8t/data=!3m1!1e3)
Looks like the spur road is actually being worked on, from this Google maps image.
The only work they've done on it is grading. I'd be surprised if any of it ends up paved. They didn't even include stubs.
Also, there's a dedicated thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=17015.0) for the 301 project.
Well, at-least if they extend the lane from the christiana mall & push it all the way to the 1/13 merge traffic wont get bunched up and cause that bad rush-hour traffic. I wish Deldot would restrip the merge at Redlion/13, So the 1 has two full lanes and 13 has to merge. But would this cause traffic issues at the two closest signals before the highway?Does anyone know when, the Big interchange project for DE-1/273 is slated to begin?
The overarching SR 1 widening project is on hold indefinitely until the state can get the funds for it. In the meantime, they've been plucking pieces of that project out and building them separately (IE the DDI at SR 72 and the northbound and future southbound auxiliary lanes between SR 273 and US 40) to hold them over until they get enough to finish the whole thing.
Well, at-least if they extend the lane from the christiana mall & push it all the way to the 1/13 merge traffic wont get bunched up and cause that bad rush-hour traffic. I wish Deldot would restrip the merge at Redlion/13, So the 1 has two full lanes and 13 has to merge. But would this cause traffic issues at the two closest signals before the highway?Does anyone know when, the Big interchange project for DE-1/273 is slated to begin?
The overarching SR 1 widening project is on hold indefinitely until the state can get the funds for it. In the meantime, they've been plucking pieces of that project out and building them separately (IE the DDI at SR 72 and the northbound and future southbound auxiliary lanes between SR 273 and US 40) to hold them over until they get enough to finish the whole thing.
Fully agree. For reference, a proper merge would be about 1,200' from the previous stop bar, leaving about 800' of lane ending and a 300' taper. The taper would start opposite the 1S-13N loop ramp and would finish at the 1S-13S physical gore - so plenty of room.Well, at-least if they extend the lane from the christiana mall & push it all the way to the 1/13 merge traffic wont get bunched up and cause that bad rush-hour traffic. I wish Deldot would restrip the merge at Redlion/13, So the 1 has two full lanes and 13 has to merge. But would this cause traffic issues at the two closest signals before the highway?Does anyone know when, the Big interchange project for DE-1/273 is slated to begin?
The overarching SR 1 widening project is on hold indefinitely until the state can get the funds for it. In the meantime, they've been plucking pieces of that project out and building them separately (IE the DDI at SR 72 and the northbound and future southbound auxiliary lanes between SR 273 and US 40) to hold them over until they get enough to finish the whole thing.
It's a half-mile from the traffic light at Bear/Hamburg Roads, and 1/4 mile from the Rt. 71 intersections, to where Rt. 1 merges in. Doing this just based on knowledge without looking at any traffic counts, there should be no traffic issues if Rt. 13 merged down to one lane prior to Rt. 1 coming down the ramp.
Fully agree. For reference, a proper merge would be about 1,200' from the previous stop bar, leaving about 800' of lane ending and a 300' taper. The taper would start opposite the 1S-13N loop ramp and would finish at the 1S-13S physical gore - so plenty of room.Well, at-least if they extend the lane from the christiana mall & push it all the way to the 1/13 merge traffic wont get bunched up and cause that bad rush-hour traffic. I wish Deldot would restrip the merge at Redlion/13, So the 1 has two full lanes and 13 has to merge. But would this cause traffic issues at the two closest signals before the highway?Does anyone know when, the Big interchange project for DE-1/273 is slated to begin?
The overarching SR 1 widening project is on hold indefinitely until the state can get the funds for it. In the meantime, they've been plucking pieces of that project out and building them separately (IE the DDI at SR 72 and the northbound and future southbound auxiliary lanes between SR 273 and US 40) to hold them over until they get enough to finish the whole thing.
It's a half-mile from the traffic light at Bear/Hamburg Roads, and 1/4 mile from the Rt. 71 intersections, to where Rt. 1 merges in. Doing this just based on knowledge without looking at any traffic counts, there should be no traffic issues if Rt. 13 merged down to one lane prior to Rt. 1 coming down the ramp.
Fully agree. For reference, a proper merge would be about 1,200' from the previous stop bar, leaving about 800' of lane ending and a 300' taper. The taper would start opposite the 1S-13N loop ramp and would finish at the 1S-13S physical gore - so plenty of room.Well, at-least if they extend the lane from the christiana mall & push it all the way to the 1/13 merge traffic wont get bunched up and cause that bad rush-hour traffic. I wish Deldot would restrip the merge at Redlion/13, So the 1 has two full lanes and 13 has to merge. But would this cause traffic issues at the two closest signals before the highway?Does anyone know when, the Big interchange project for DE-1/273 is slated to begin?
The overarching SR 1 widening project is on hold indefinitely until the state can get the funds for it. In the meantime, they've been plucking pieces of that project out and building them separately (IE the DDI at SR 72 and the northbound and future southbound auxiliary lanes between SR 273 and US 40) to hold them over until they get enough to finish the whole thing.
It's a half-mile from the traffic light at Bear/Hamburg Roads, and 1/4 mile from the Rt. 71 intersections, to where Rt. 1 merges in. Doing this just based on knowledge without looking at any traffic counts, there should be no traffic issues if Rt. 13 merged down to one lane prior to Rt. 1 coming down the ramp.
At least it'll be a moot point when they do the widening, though that will just raise the question of why is the southbound DE 1 "ramp" only two lanes?
Fully agree. For reference, a proper merge would be about 1,200' from the previous stop bar, leaving about 800' of lane ending and a 300' taper. The taper would start opposite the 1S-13N loop ramp and would finish at the 1S-13S physical gore - so plenty of room.Well, at-least if they extend the lane from the christiana mall & push it all the way to the 1/13 merge traffic wont get bunched up and cause that bad rush-hour traffic. I wish Deldot would restrip the merge at Redlion/13, So the 1 has two full lanes and 13 has to merge. But would this cause traffic issues at the two closest signals before the highway?Does anyone know when, the Big interchange project for DE-1/273 is slated to begin?
The overarching SR 1 widening project is on hold indefinitely until the state can get the funds for it. In the meantime, they've been plucking pieces of that project out and building them separately (IE the DDI at SR 72 and the northbound and future southbound auxiliary lanes between SR 273 and US 40) to hold them over until they get enough to finish the whole thing.
It's a half-mile from the traffic light at Bear/Hamburg Roads, and 1/4 mile from the Rt. 71 intersections, to where Rt. 1 merges in. Doing this just based on knowledge without looking at any traffic counts, there should be no traffic issues if Rt. 13 merged down to one lane prior to Rt. 1 coming down the ramp.
At least it'll be a moot point when they do the widening, though that will just raise the question of why is the southbound DE 1 "ramp" only two lanes?
Maybe to be a little cheap so they don't have to widen the Rt. 71 overpass for a 3rd lane, and/or so there doesn't need to be a merge where 1/13 meet? Looking at the plans online, they show the ROW in that area, and the ROW ends right at the right shoulder's guardrail, so they would need to add the lane on the inside if they didn't want to purchase more land.
I'm thinking it would be nice. The good thing about delaying a project is there's still time to go back and review the project, and/or bug DelDOT to convince them a 3rd lane will be needed.
I'd like to see DE 1 convert to mile-based. Unlike I-19, distance signs are in miles and mile markers are used, not km markers. Thus, many of the benefits of mile-based numbers are lost (especially since, unlike Canada, my odometer would not be in metric mode when driving on it), and you're left only with the ability to add interchanges without suffixes. The novelty ceases to be a draw for me when the benefit for the driver over sequential is only marginal.Well not only is there the issue with the other signage being in miles, but also, as an American, I honestly have no concept of what a kilometer is, because I've never used them for any actual reason and, let's face it, the vast majority of drivers on DE-1 are Americans who have no clue what a kilometer is either (yes I know 1 kilometer = 0.62 miles, but that requires me to do a conversion that is unnatural to me when measuring distances on a road like DE-1, I just know a handful of the mileposts (Exit 95 is mile 59, Exit 98 is mile 61, Exit 152 is mile 94, Exit 162 is mile 99, Exit 164-166 is mile 100)).
Although it would be nice if we converted distances/speeds to metric. Such would provide greater consistency with Canada and Mexico, and ease complaints about alphabet soup and numbers not changing by very much for distance-based exit numbering more developed areas.
It's worth noting that when the older portions of the Expressway version of DE 1 first opened; the interchange numbering was, for a very short period, mileage-based. Its conversion to the current km-based numbers occurred when DelDOT incorrectly assumed that the nationwide conversion to the metric system was going to restart after stalling for many years.I'd like to see DE 1 convert to mile-based. Unlike I-19, distance signs are in miles and mile markers are used, not km markers. Thus, many of the benefits of mile-based numbers are lost (especially since, unlike Canada, my odometer would not be in metric mode when driving on it), and you're left only with the ability to add interchanges without suffixes. The novelty ceases to be a draw for me when the benefit for the driver over sequential is only marginal.Well not only is there the issue with the other signage being in miles, but also, as an American, I honestly have no concept of what a kilometer is, because I've never used them for any actual reason and, let's face it, the vast majority of drivers on DE-1 are Americans who have no clue what a kilometer is either (yes I know 1 kilometer = 0.62 miles, but that requires me to do a conversion that is unnatural to me when measuring distances on a road like DE-1, I just know a handful of the mileposts (Exit 95 is mile 59, Exit 98 is mile 61, Exit 152 is mile 94, Exit 162 is mile 99, Exit 164-166 is mile 100)).
Although it would be nice if we converted distances/speeds to metric. Such would provide greater consistency with Canada and Mexico, and ease complaints about alphabet soup and numbers not changing by very much for distance-based exit numbering more developed areas.
I've always had a joke that the only reason DE-1 uses kilometers is to make Delaware seem bigger than it really is.
It's worth noting that when the older portions of the Expressway version of DE 1 first opened; the interchange numbering was, for a very short period, mileage-based. Its conversion to the current km-based numbers occurred when DelDOT incorrectly assumed that the nationwide conversion to the metric system was going to restart after stalling for many years.Knowing Delaware's "business friendly" reputation and the backlash that Connecticut faced when I-395 switched, I have a feeling DE-1 won't change, at least any time soon...not that any of the places on DE-1 north of Lewes and south of Christiana are real tourist destinations...
But they have plans to redo the whole interchange from the spilt on both sides of 1/13 & redo the 71 road as well.Fully agree. For reference, a proper merge would be about 1,200' from the previous stop bar, leaving about 800' of lane ending and a 300' taper. The taper would start opposite the 1S-13N loop ramp and would finish at the 1S-13S physical gore - so plenty of room.Well, at-least if they extend the lane from the christiana mall & push it all the way to the 1/13 merge traffic wont get bunched up and cause that bad rush-hour traffic. I wish Deldot would restrip the merge at Redlion/13, So the 1 has two full lanes and 13 has to merge. But would this cause traffic issues at the two closest signals before the highway?Does anyone know when, the Big interchange project for DE-1/273 is slated to begin?
The overarching SR 1 widening project is on hold indefinitely until the state can get the funds for it. In the meantime, they've been plucking pieces of that project out and building them separately (IE the DDI at SR 72 and the northbound and future southbound auxiliary lanes between SR 273 and US 40) to hold them over until they get enough to finish the whole thing.
It's a half-mile from the traffic light at Bear/Hamburg Roads, and 1/4 mile from the Rt. 71 intersections, to where Rt. 1 merges in. Doing this just based on knowledge without looking at any traffic counts, there should be no traffic issues if Rt. 13 merged down to one lane prior to Rt. 1 coming down the ramp.
At least it'll be a moot point when they do the widening, though that will just raise the question of why is the southbound DE 1 "ramp" only two lanes?
Maybe to be a little cheap so they don't have to widen the Rt. 71 overpass for a 3rd lane, and/or so there doesn't need to be a merge where 1/13 meet? Looking at the plans online, they show the ROW in that area, and the ROW ends right at the right shoulder's guardrail, so they would need to add the lane on the inside if they didn't want to purchase more land.
I'm thinking it would be nice. The good thing about delaying a project is there's still time to go back and review the project, and/or bug DelDOT to convince them a 3rd lane will be needed.
I'd like to see DE 1 convert to mile-based. Unlike I-19, distance signs are in miles and mile markers are used, not km markers. Thus, many of the benefits of mile-based numbers are lost (especially since, unlike Canada, my odometer would not be in metric mode when driving on it), and you're left only with the ability to add interchanges without suffixes. The novelty ceases to be a draw for me when the benefit for the driver over sequential is only marginal.Well not only is there the issue with the other signage being in miles, but also, as an American, I honestly have no concept of what a kilometer is, because I've never used them for any actual reason and, let's face it, the vast majority of drivers on DE-1 are Americans who have no clue what a kilometer is either (yes I know 1 kilometer = 0.62 miles, but that requires me to do a conversion that is unnatural to me when measuring distances on a road like DE-1, I just know a handful of the mileposts (Exit 95 is mile 59, Exit 98 is mile 61, Exit 152 is mile 94, Exit 162 is mile 99, Exit 164-166 is mile 100)).
Although it would be nice if we converted distances/speeds to metric. Such would provide greater consistency with Canada and Mexico, and ease complaints about alphabet soup and numbers not changing by very much for distance-based exit numbering more developed areas.
I've always had a joke that the only reason DE-1 uses kilometers is to make Delaware seem bigger than it really is.
Knowing Delaware's "business friendly" reputation and the backlash that Connecticut faced when I-395 switched, I have a feeling DE-1 won't change, at least any time soon...not that any of the places on DE-1 north of Lewes and south of Christiana are real tourist destinations...
My conversions from kilometers to miles were based on approximations from what I remembered, straight from memory. I knew they weren't quite exact (I figured Exit 164-166 fit in more with Exit 101), I was just thinking of the guidelines I use when traveling on DE-1, considering that I need to travel from Dover to I-95 from time to time. Typically, I take US-13 from the DE-1/US-13 split, though, just because I prefer to take the most direct route even if it's not the fastest, so I haven't been through the northernmost segment of DE-1 in a while. Plus, I just personally like the idea of thinking of DE-1 as 100 miles, since it's just an easy number to remember (even though I think the highest posted mile marker is 103 or something, it just keeps things more straightforward in my head).I'd like to see DE 1 convert to mile-based. Unlike I-19, distance signs are in miles and mile markers are used, not km markers. Thus, many of the benefits of mile-based numbers are lost (especially since, unlike Canada, my odometer would not be in metric mode when driving on it), and you're left only with the ability to add interchanges without suffixes. The novelty ceases to be a draw for me when the benefit for the driver over sequential is only marginal.Well not only is there the issue with the other signage being in miles, but also, as an American, I honestly have no concept of what a kilometer is, because I've never used them for any actual reason and, let's face it, the vast majority of drivers on DE-1 are Americans who have no clue what a kilometer is either (yes I know 1 kilometer = 0.62 miles, but that requires me to do a conversion that is unnatural to me when measuring distances on a road like DE-1, I just know a handful of the mileposts (Exit 95 is mile 59, Exit 98 is mile 61, Exit 152 is mile 94, Exit 162 is mile 99, Exit 164-166 is mile 100)).
Although it would be nice if we converted distances/speeds to metric. Such would provide greater consistency with Canada and Mexico, and ease complaints about alphabet soup and numbers not changing by very much for distance-based exit numbering more developed areas.
I've always had a joke that the only reason DE-1 uses kilometers is to make Delaware seem bigger than it really is.
Some of the exit numbers north of the 1/13 split do not match the milepost when converted. 162 should be at MP 100 (almost 101), and 164-166 would fall within MP 102-103. My conversion exit numbers north of the split (which would be Exit 97)
Exit 99: US 40
Exit 100: DE 273
Exit 101: DE 7 SOUTH
Exit 102A (NB ONLY): Flyover ramp to I-95 North)
Exit 102B: (Local ramp to) I-95 North
Exit 102C: I-95 South
Exit 103: DE 58Knowing Delaware's "business friendly" reputation and the backlash that Connecticut faced when I-395 switched, I have a feeling DE-1 won't change, at least any time soon...not that any of the places on DE-1 north of Lewes and south of Christiana are real tourist destinations...
I-395 in CT switched because the exit numbers were remnants from the CT Turnpike days, and were a continuation of I-95's numbers. Much as DE 1 was used to test the effects of the metric system, CT used I-395 to test mileage based exits (except for the stretch near the casinos between I-95 and CT 2, it's pretty desolate). A few years after the change, I don't hear much backlash other than it was money not well spent (we have a state fiscal crisis, but most people don't realize federal funding was used to make the changes, not state money. Same with sign replacement projects they complained about). It wasn't an out and out revolt like the Cape Cod residents with US 6.
My conversions from kilometers to miles were based on approximations from what I remembered, straight from memory. I knew they weren't quite exact (I figured Exit 164-166 fit in more with Exit 101), I was just thinking of the guidelines I use when traveling on DE-1, considering that I need to travel from Dover to I-95 from time to time. Typically, I take US-13 from the DE-1/US-13 split, though, just because I prefer to take the most direct route even if it's not the fastest, so I haven't been through the northernmost segment of DE-1 in a while. Plus, I just personally like the idea of thinking of DE-1 as 100 miles, since it's just an easy number to remember (even though I think the highest posted mile marker is 103 or something, it just keeps things more straightforward in my head).
I'm perfectly fine with the Connecticut change (I live southwest of Hartford). I can't speak for DE Route 1 as I've never been on it. Could I-95 in DE ever convert to mile based exits? I'm guessing it's not worth the effort for I-495 in the Wilmington area?
Being that most people are bad at math, couldn't care less about kilometers and have no idea what the true conversion is, current Exit 162 could be Exit 101, 100, 28, 67, whatever!! Most people won't have a clue what it should've been.What's more interesting is how far off the exit numbers are on the segments of DE-1 between Milford and Dover. I have no idea why the exit for Bowers Beach Road/Clapham Road is Exit 88 when it's certainly more than 3 miles (or about 5km) between Exit 88 and 91!
Exit 5 on I-495 would be Exit 10, Exit 3 on I-95 would be Exit 6, etc.For grins & giggles; I did a couple of quick GSV mile marker observations. You're not too far off in saying that I-95's & I-495's current numbers would double, in most instances, if converted.
Exit 5 on I-495 would be Exit 10, Exit 3 on I-95 would be Exit 6, etc.For grins & giggles; I did a couple of quick GSV mile marker observations. You're not too far off in saying that I-95's & I-495's current numbers would double, in most instances, if converted.
Exit 5 off I-495 would be Exit 11 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8075148,-75.4520999,3a,75y,351.03h,74.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sThKljCWEKlfBrEQkUQ6l-w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). MM 11.0 is located within the overall interchange footprint.
Exit 3 off I-95 would be Exit 7 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6707058,-75.6771922,3a,75y,77.14h,75.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_sY2t6OAj5LoRdbZCgsl2Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) due to the DE 273 overpass is located beyond MM 6.5.
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For those that are wondering, DE 1's MM 102.0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6836186,-75.6564752,3a,75y,135.32h,70.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s44rPQGHiphG35GJ5PVDNmA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is located just south of the I-95 overpass. So DE 1's Exit 165 would indeed be Exit 102 if such was (re)converted.
How is 476 numbered? I thought it was in threes but after exit 9 it goes to 13?Exit 5 on I-495 would be Exit 10, Exit 3 on I-95 would be Exit 6, etc.For grins & giggles; I did a couple of quick GSV mile marker observations. You're not too far off in saying that I-95's & I-495's current numbers would double, in most instances, if converted.
Exit 5 off I-495 would be Exit 11 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8075148,-75.4520999,3a,75y,351.03h,74.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sThKljCWEKlfBrEQkUQ6l-w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). MM 11.0 is located within the overall interchange footprint.
Exit 3 off I-95 would be Exit 7 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6707058,-75.6771922,3a,75y,77.14h,75.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_sY2t6OAj5LoRdbZCgsl2Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) due to the DE 273 overpass is located beyond MM 6.5.
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For those that are wondering, DE 1's MM 102.0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6836186,-75.6564752,3a,75y,135.32h,70.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s44rPQGHiphG35GJ5PVDNmA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is located just south of the I-95 overpass. So DE 1's Exit 165 would indeed be Exit 102 if such was (re)converted.
Exit numbers can vary, and often are within the MP, not rounded. There's no actual MUTCD guidance on this from what I can tell, and also depends on their relative locations to each other. Using 295 in NJ as an example, Exits 34 (MP 34.8), Exit 36 (36.9) and Exit 40 (40.6) are examples of such. When you get to Exit 43 (mp 43.1), it retains the MP reference. I-195 in NJ has a mix, especially between Exits 1 and 5. Once you get to the NJ Turnpike and continue east, they appear to remain within the milepost number itself. Exits 21 and 22 are nearly 2 miles away from each other: Exit 21 is at MP 21.05; Exit 22 is at 22.95!
When the Blue Route portion of I-476, between I-95 & I-76 first opened circa Dec. 1991; the interchanges were sequentially numbered. When PA adopted mile-marker-based interchange numbering circa 2000. I-476's interchanges were renumbered with respect to where its mile markers were. Although IMHO, the PA 3 interchange should've been renumbered to Exit 8 rather than 9 due to the actual PA 3 crossing occurs at/around I-476's MM 8.4. PennDOT, in this case, rounded upward rather than downward.How is 476 numbered? I thought it was in threes but after exit 9 it goes to 13?Exit 5 on I-495 would be Exit 10, Exit 3 on I-95 would be Exit 6, etc.For grins & giggles; I did a couple of quick GSV mile marker observations. You're not too far off in saying that I-95's & I-495's current numbers would double, in most instances, if converted.
Exit 5 off I-495 would be Exit 11 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8075148,-75.4520999,3a,75y,351.03h,74.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sThKljCWEKlfBrEQkUQ6l-w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). MM 11.0 is located within the overall interchange footprint.
Exit 3 off I-95 would be Exit 7 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6707058,-75.6771922,3a,75y,77.14h,75.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_sY2t6OAj5LoRdbZCgsl2Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) due to the DE 273 overpass is located beyond MM 6.5.
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For those that are wondering, DE 1's MM 102.0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6836186,-75.6564752,3a,75y,135.32h,70.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s44rPQGHiphG35GJ5PVDNmA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is located just south of the I-95 overpass. So DE 1's Exit 165 would indeed be Exit 102 if such was (re)converted.
Exit numbers can vary, and often are within the MP, not rounded. There's no actual MUTCD guidance on this from what I can tell, and also depends on their relative locations to each other. Using 295 in NJ as an example, Exits 34 (MP 34.8), Exit 36 (36.9) and Exit 40 (40.6) are examples of such. When you get to Exit 43 (mp 43.1), it retains the MP reference. I-195 in NJ has a mix, especially between Exits 1 and 5. Once you get to the NJ Turnpike and continue east, they appear to remain within the milepost number itself. Exits 21 and 22 are nearly 2 miles away from each other: Exit 21 is at MP 21.05; Exit 22 is at 22.95!
Pennsylvania uses mile-based exits (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_476#Exit_list). Any deviations you see on the PA Turnpike Northeast Extension segment (e.g. Exit 56) are likely due to the PA Turnpike Mainline having the exit number too, and they don't want to confuse motorists who have toll tickets (e.g. there is an Exit 57).How is 476 numbered? I thought it was in threes but after exit 9 it goes to 13?Exit 5 on I-495 would be Exit 10, Exit 3 on I-95 would be Exit 6, etc.For grins & giggles; I did a couple of quick GSV mile marker observations. You're not too far off in saying that I-95's & I-495's current numbers would double, in most instances, if converted.
Exit 5 off I-495 would be Exit 11 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8075148,-75.4520999,3a,75y,351.03h,74.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sThKljCWEKlfBrEQkUQ6l-w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). MM 11.0 is located within the overall interchange footprint.
Exit 3 off I-95 would be Exit 7 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6707058,-75.6771922,3a,75y,77.14h,75.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_sY2t6OAj5LoRdbZCgsl2Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) due to the DE 273 overpass is located beyond MM 6.5.
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For those that are wondering, DE 1's MM 102.0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6836186,-75.6564752,3a,75y,135.32h,70.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s44rPQGHiphG35GJ5PVDNmA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is located just south of the I-95 overpass. So DE 1's Exit 165 would indeed be Exit 102 if such was (re)converted.
Exit numbers can vary, and often are within the MP, not rounded. There's no actual MUTCD guidance on this from what I can tell, and also depends on their relative locations to each other. Using 295 in NJ as an example, Exits 34 (MP 34.8), Exit 36 (36.9) and Exit 40 (40.6) are examples of such. When you get to Exit 43 (mp 43.1), it retains the MP reference. I-195 in NJ has a mix, especially between Exits 1 and 5. Once you get to the NJ Turnpike and continue east, they appear to remain within the milepost number itself. Exits 21 and 22 are nearly 2 miles away from each other: Exit 21 is at MP 21.05; Exit 22 is at 22.95!
476 opened in 91? Wtf. That makes sense. Why not just renumber the whole system in the U.S to even everything out.When the Blue Route portion of I-476, between I-95 & I-76 first opened circa Dec. 1991; the interchanges were sequentially numbered. When PA adopted mile-marker-based interchange numbering circa 2000. I-476's interchanges were renumbered with respect to where its mile markers were. Although IMHO, the PA 3 interchange should've been renumbered to Exit 8 rather than 9 due to the actual PA 3 crossing occurs at/around I-476's MM 8.4. PennDOT, in this case, rounded upward rather than downward.How is 476 numbered? I thought it was in threes but after exit 9 it goes to 13?Exit 5 on I-495 would be Exit 10, Exit 3 on I-95 would be Exit 6, etc.For grins & giggles; I did a couple of quick GSV mile marker observations. You're not too far off in saying that I-95's & I-495's current numbers would double, in most instances, if converted.
Exit 5 off I-495 would be Exit 11 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8075148,-75.4520999,3a,75y,351.03h,74.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sThKljCWEKlfBrEQkUQ6l-w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). MM 11.0 is located within the overall interchange footprint.
Exit 3 off I-95 would be Exit 7 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6707058,-75.6771922,3a,75y,77.14h,75.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_sY2t6OAj5LoRdbZCgsl2Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) due to the DE 273 overpass is located beyond MM 6.5.
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For those that are wondering, DE 1's MM 102.0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6836186,-75.6564752,3a,75y,135.32h,70.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s44rPQGHiphG35GJ5PVDNmA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is located just south of the I-95 overpass. So DE 1's Exit 165 would indeed be Exit 102 if such was (re)converted.
Exit numbers can vary, and often are within the MP, not rounded. There's no actual MUTCD guidance on this from what I can tell, and also depends on their relative locations to each other. Using 295 in NJ as an example, Exits 34 (MP 34.8), Exit 36 (36.9) and Exit 40 (40.6) are examples of such. When you get to Exit 43 (mp 43.1), it retains the MP reference. I-195 in NJ has a mix, especially between Exits 1 and 5. Once you get to the NJ Turnpike and continue east, they appear to remain within the milepost number itself. Exits 21 and 22 are nearly 2 miles away from each other: Exit 21 is at MP 21.05; Exit 22 is at 22.95!
OTOH, US 30 crosses I-476 at/around MM 13.1; so that interchange being Exit 13 is completely logical.
As J&N mentioned, there's no hard & fast rule for when to round up or down with respect to the mile markers. As a result, there's bound to be some inconsistency for interchange numbering along a particular highway. In the case of PA's conversion; at least a couple of interchanges had fudged conversions in order so that it's number didn't require a change.
I-476's (Northeast Extension) Exit 31, by right should've changed to Exit 30 due to where PA 63 crossed I-476 but since the old number was only off by one; the PTC let the old number stand.
PennDOT also fudged a couple of numbers along I-95 in Delaware County so that no change to the existing interchange numbers was required for the southernmost 10 miles in PA.
PennDOT also fudged a couple of numbers along I-95 in Delaware County so that no change to the existing interchange numbers was required for the southernmost 10 miles in PA.
476 opened in 91?Yes it did. As a matter of fact, most of the major signage from just south of the I-76 to just north of the MacDade Blvd. interchanges are the original signs; with either the exit number on the tab replaced (Baltimore Pike to PA 3) or a new tab (US 30 & I-76). Prior to it opening, I even biked on the then-unopened portion a few times.
Why not just renumber the whole system in the U.S to even everything out.Because the feds never fully mandated individual states to do such until relatively recent... and even such still has no definitive deadline.
Just the exit numbers.PennDOT also fudged a couple of numbers along I-95 in Delaware County so that no change to the existing interchange numbers was required for the southernmost 10 miles in PA.
Did they fudge the mileage or just the exit numbers?
They discovered that by Bucks County, the mileage was about a mile off, which is why Exit 40 is now Exit 39.In some ways, that correction/adjustment worked out so that the I-276/295 interchange can be an nice even number (40). The corresponding I-95/295 interchange number conversion in PA corrected another oversight. The New Hope/Yardley interchange was Exit 51 despite the fact that the total I-95-PA mileage at the time was just over 50. Such is now I-295's Exit 10.
476 opened in 91?Yes it did. As a matter of fact, most of the major signage from just south of the I-76 to just north of the MacDade Blvd. interchanges are the original signs; with either the exit number on the tab replaced (Baltimore Pike to PA 3) or a new tab (US 30 & I-76). Prior to it opening, I even biked on the then-unopened portion a few times.Why not just renumber the whole system in the U.S to even everything out.Because the feds never fully mandated individual states to do such until relatively recent... and even such still has no definitive deadline.Just the exit numbers.PennDOT also fudged a couple of numbers along I-95 in Delaware County so that no change to the existing interchange numbers was required for the southernmost 10 miles in PA.
Did they fudge the mileage or just the exit numbers?They discovered that by Bucks County, the mileage was about a mile off, which is why Exit 40 is now Exit 39.In some ways, that correction/adjustment worked out so that the I-276/295 interchange can be an nice even number (40). The corresponding I-95/295 interchange number conversion in PA corrected another oversight. The New Hope/Yardley interchange was Exit 51 despite the fact that the total I-95-PA mileage at the time was just over 50. Such is now I-295's Exit 10.
Further north, the NJTA corrected some its interchange numbers along the Garden State Parkway (to better match its mileage markers) a few years ago.
NJ uses the rule of rounding down. Some states will round either way.Exit 5 on I-495 would be Exit 10, Exit 3 on I-95 would be Exit 6, etc.For grins & giggles; I did a couple of quick GSV mile marker observations. You're not too far off in saying that I-95's & I-495's current numbers would double, in most instances, if converted.
Exit 5 off I-495 would be Exit 11 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8075148,-75.4520999,3a,75y,351.03h,74.81t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sThKljCWEKlfBrEQkUQ6l-w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). MM 11.0 is located within the overall interchange footprint.
Exit 3 off I-95 would be Exit 7 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6707058,-75.6771922,3a,75y,77.14h,75.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_sY2t6OAj5LoRdbZCgsl2Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) due to the DE 273 overpass is located beyond MM 6.5.
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For those that are wondering, DE 1's MM 102.0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6836186,-75.6564752,3a,75y,135.32h,70.13t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s44rPQGHiphG35GJ5PVDNmA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is located just south of the I-95 overpass. So DE 1's Exit 165 would indeed be Exit 102 if such was (re)converted.
Exit numbers can vary, and often are within the MP, not rounded. There's no actual MUTCD guidance on this from what I can tell, and also depends on their relative locations to each other. Using 295 in NJ as an example, Exits 34 (MP 34.8), Exit 36 (36.9) and Exit 40 (40.6) are examples of such. When you get to Exit 43 (mp 43.1), it retains the MP reference. I-195 in NJ has a mix, especially between Exits 1 and 5. Once you get to the NJ Turnpike and continue east, they appear to remain within the milepost number itself. Exits 21 and 22 are nearly 2 miles away from each other: Exit 21 is at MP 21.05; Exit 22 is at 22.95!
It seems the I-95 flyover ramps are experiencing merge issues, coming from the 295 flyover ramp. I believe the only way to stop it is they will have to run a lane all the way to 295, like they should have, why would they have that lane end like that? Traffic count wasn’t expecting to bloom?
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The fly over Ramps by the christiana mall. Are there other fly over ramps in de?It seems the I-95 flyover ramps are experiencing merge issues, coming from the 295 flyover ramp. I believe the only way to stop it is they will have to run a lane all the way to 295, like they should have, why would they have that lane end like that? Traffic count wasn’t expecting to bloom?
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Where are you talking about?
The fly over Ramps by the christiana mall. Are there other fly over ramps in de?It seems the I-95 flyover ramps are experiencing merge issues, coming from the 295 flyover ramp. I believe the only way to stop it is they will have to run a lane all the way to 295, like they should have, why would they have that lane end like that? Traffic count wasn’t expecting to bloom?
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Where are you talking about?
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You’re right. Word mixup on my end.The fly over Ramps by the christiana mall. Are there other fly over ramps in de?It seems the I-95 flyover ramps are experiencing merge issues, coming from the 295 flyover ramp. I believe the only way to stop it is they will have to run a lane all the way to 295, like they should have, why would they have that lane end like that? Traffic count wasn’t expecting to bloom?
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Where are you talking about?
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You said the 295 flyover ramps...which doesn't match up with what you appeared to be talking about. If you're referring to how Rt. 1 North's right sided ramp merges onto 95 North without maintaining its lane all the way to 295, that's due to Delaware's decision to have the Rt. 1 North to 95 North left sided ramp having that function. Delaware has consistently given 95 and 495 the priority, even though the 95 to 295 movement congests often. The 141 project will at least allow a 3rd lane to be constructed in the future at the 295 diverge.
You’re right. Word mixup on my end.The fly over Ramps by the christiana mall. Are there other fly over ramps in de?It seems the I-95 flyover ramps are experiencing merge issues, coming from the 295 flyover ramp. I believe the only way to stop it is they will have to run a lane all the way to 295, like they should have, why would they have that lane end like that? Traffic count wasn’t expecting to bloom?
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You said the 295 flyover ramps...which doesn't match up with what you appeared to be talking about. If you're referring to how Rt. 1 North's right sided ramp merges onto 95 North without maintaining its lane all the way to 295, that's due to Delaware's decision to have the Rt. 1 North to 95 North left sided ramp having that function. Delaware has consistently given 95 and 495 the priority, even though the 95 to 295 movement congests often. The 141 project will at least allow a 3rd lane to be constructed in the future at the 295 diverge.
Yea im surprised they haven’t realized that 295 pushes a lot of traffic thru that stretch right there. 295 deserves 3 lanes. Maybe deldot is gonna add that 6th lane, when they make 95 12 lanes.
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What they really should have done was build a flyover from SB I-295 to the right side of I-95 so traffic heading to DE 1 doesn't have to cross all those lanes. I feel that is a major cause of congestion in that direction.Thats kinda tough, with that 141 ramp right there. But they should have definitely made two options available. Like DE 1 Has.
What they really should have done was build a flyover from SB I-295 to the right side of I-95 so traffic heading to DE 1 doesn't have to cross all those lanes. I feel that is a major cause of congestion in that direction.The single biggest cause that I can identify is I-295 narrowing to two lanes. The problem is that on weekdays, you want more lanes for 95/495, but on weekends you want more for 295. There are definitely ways to accommodate that without adding more overall lanes, but that requires active management.
The single biggest cause that I can identify is I-295 narrowing to two lanes. The problem is that on weekdays, you want more lanes for 95/495, but on weekends you want more for 295. There are definitely ways to accommodate that without adding more overall lanes, but that requires active management.
Well there are signs that still point traffic heading towards Dover (DE-1) to use US-13 South upon crossing the Delaware Memorial Bridge. Not that US-13 is really an ideal route there due to the heavy traffic, but that would be my preferred route back to Dover if I was coming from New Jersey.What they really should have done was build a flyover from SB I-295 to the right side of I-95 so traffic heading to DE 1 doesn't have to cross all those lanes. I feel that is a major cause of congestion in that direction.Thats kinda tough, with that 141 ramp right there. But they should have definitely made two options available. Like DE 1 Has.
Depends when you're looking. If 95 is congested maps will recommend 13. But 95 free-flow is faster.Well there are signs that still point traffic heading towards Dover (DE-1) to use US-13 South upon crossing the Delaware Memorial Bridge. Not that US-13 is really an ideal route there due to the heavy traffic, but that would be my preferred route back to Dover if I was coming from New Jersey.What they really should have done was build a flyover from SB I-295 to the right side of I-95 so traffic heading to DE 1 doesn't have to cross all those lanes. I feel that is a major cause of congestion in that direction.Thats kinda tough, with that 141 ramp right there. But they should have definitely made two options available. Like DE 1 Has.
Checking Google Maps does suggest that route actually, but my work computer won't let me access any of the screenshot sharing sites I normally use. Here's a link (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/camden+nj/dover+de/@39.5687714,-75.9099318,10z/data=!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c6c9192e360043:0xdfe36b76a1938686!2m2!1d-75.1196199!2d39.9259463!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c77d7bdec62207:0xf9688d558d6d0e31!2m2!1d-75.6208088!2d39.1676096), hopefully it shows.
Also does the same thing if I go to a beach (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/camden+nj/Bethany+Beach,+DE+19930/@39.2378152,-75.9279976,9z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c6c9192e360043:0xdfe36b76a1938686!2m2!1d-75.1196199!2d39.9259463!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b8ce0af009e22d:0x5ee36f0e2553e504!2m2!1d-75.0669552!2d38.5494249).
Recent articles from the Delaware State News about road projects in LSD...Wow. The nimbys really try to tear them down. If they dont want a DE-1 down there. Then whats the problem with building something in between. They are asking for in-between & that seems to be it. Do they want rural land or urban land? Its 2018 the world is getting bigger. Those little streets down there are gonna get more & more traffic as the sprawl moves south.
https://delawarestatenews.net/news/deldot-update-on-millsboro-projects-draws-questions/
https://delawarestatenews.net/news/key-deldot-projects-updated/
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Beltway you drove Delaware 95 when it first opened? What did the state trooper station in the middle of U.S 13/40 spilt look like? (If you drove that part)The single biggest cause that I can identify is I-295 narrowing to two lanes. The problem is that on weekdays, you want more lanes for 95/495, but on weekends you want more for 295. There are definitely ways to accommodate that without adding more overall lanes, but that requires active management.
I noticed that problem when I first drove the route in the 1970s. The river bridge has 4 lanes each way, NJ I-295 and the NJ Turnpike feed the bridge and each has 2 lanes each way, but a portion of I-295 in Delaware becomes much narrower than 4 lanes directional. It was a design lack 40 years ago and it has gotten worse.
I noticed that problem when I first drove the route in the 1970s. The river bridge has 4 lanes each way, NJ I-295 and the NJ Turnpike feed the bridge and each has 2 lanes each way, but a portion of I-295 in Delaware becomes much narrower than 4 lanes directional. It was a design lack 40 years ago and it has gotten worse.Beltway you drove Delaware 95 when it first opened? What did the state trooper station in the middle of U.S 13/40 spilt look like? (If you drove that part)
I do vaguely recall the state trooper station [at 13 and 40], but no details.
Oh shit!!!!! A greyhound station was right there & the Colonial technology center was the DSP. Why change that area so much? Looks like that corridor could have became more then what it is today, even though they are fixing 13 up now & getting rid of the bullshit stores. Was that exxon always there? & did the road ever go over the tracks across from wilton/walmartI do vaguely recall the state trooper station [at 13 and 40], but no details.
Here's a detail of that location I remember greatly from my childhood and adolescence trips to the DE beaches: the billboard in the median of 13/40, depicting the Grim Reaper (Happy Halloween!) posing next to two tombstones. The first tombstone showed the tally of Delaware highway deaths so far in the current year. The other showed the tally of same for the corresponding period the previous year. That billboard was removed when lanes were added to 13/40.
The smokey house was next door to Clemente's restaurant which was also a busy Greyhound/Trailways bus stop. It closed about 25 years ago and the building eventually became this...
https://tinyurl.com/yaqne53a
The DSP moved that district's barracks to a new facility on U.S. 40 halfway between DE's 896 and 72 a few years ago. The old barracks at 13 and 40 is now the Colonial School District Technology Center.
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Reports that a chunk of concrete fell from the Naamans Road bridge onto a vehicle traveling on I-95 caused state bridge inspectors to close the interstate and check the span Wednesday morning, the Delaware Department of Transportation said.More at: https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/traffic/2018/10/31/report-falling-concrete-closed-95-lanes/1831468002/
All lanes reopened by the early afternoon after DelDOT said inspectors found no significant deterioration to the bridge, which spans I-95 and I-495 interchange.
DelDOT's initial public announcement about the work had said that only I-95 northbound would completely close. Yet, shortly after 11 a.m., state engineers could be seen on traffic cameras peering upwards at the Naamans Road span from a closed I-495 expressway.
Wow thats what happened? I had to cross the median to get on 13. Traffic was very bad on 495. Had to go all the way thru Chester & get on from the Commodore berry.QuoteReports that a chunk of concrete fell from the Naamans Road bridge onto a vehicle traveling on I-95 caused state bridge inspectors to close the interstate and check the span Wednesday morning, the Delaware Department of Transportation said.More at: https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/traffic/2018/10/31/report-falling-concrete-closed-95-lanes/1831468002/
All lanes reopened by the early afternoon after DelDOT said inspectors found no significant deterioration to the bridge, which spans I-95 and I-495 interchange.
DelDOT's initial public announcement about the work had said that only I-95 northbound would completely close. Yet, shortly after 11 a.m., state engineers could be seen on traffic cameras peering upwards at the Naamans Road span from a closed I-495 expressway.
The entire proposed route north of Suburban Plaza has been developed over in Delaware, and the remainder was never a serious consideration other than early planning.
The entire proposed route north of Suburban Plaza has been developed over in Delaware, and the remainder was never a serious consideration other than early planning.
I see that. But it is not developed up to Barksdale & W Main https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6783562,-75.7803516,14z/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6783562,-75.7803516,14z/data=!3m1!1e3)
& it should have been more thought of. That would have relieved traffic in that neck of the woods & made it easier for everyone/thing to move around. They should have considered todays traffic & the fact that it could have made main street more then just one street. Id like to have seen a whole beltway loop in Delaware. Especially in that area. White clay park would have been a nice drive.
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Wasn’t it going to go that way anyway? Are there any known pictures of the proposal?The entire proposed route north of Suburban Plaza has been developed over in Delaware, and the remainder was never a serious consideration other than early planning.
I see that. But it is not developed up to Barksdale & W Main https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6783562,-75.7803516,14z/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6783562,-75.7803516,14z/data=!3m1!1e3)
& it should have been more thought of. That would have relieved traffic in that neck of the woods & made it easier for everyone/thing to move around. They should have considered todays traffic & the fact that it could have made main street more then just one street. Id like to have seen a whole beltway loop in Delaware. Especially in that area. White clay park would have been a nice drive.
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You're talking about the strip of land where the Christiana River is located. So no, they're not building on the river.
Some of the proposals go back pretty far, and the land it was proposed on (a paper proposal) has long been built upon. And Maryland really doesn't have any interest in building it since they won't get any real benefit from such a bypass except for more sprawl.Maryland shouldn’t be involved with that anyway, Even though “its” right there they would just deal with the traffic on a two lane road they “didnt” upgrade. Would newark ever have a chance of a real Highway connection? Yes 95 is right there but what about the hills & city of newark?
Some of the proposals go back pretty far, and the land it was proposed on (a paper proposal) has long been built upon. And Maryland really doesn't have any interest in building it since they won't get any real benefit from such a bypass except for more sprawl.Maryland shouldnt be involved with that anyway, Even though its right there they would just deal with the traffic on a two lane road they didnt upgrade. Would newark ever have a chance of a real Highway connection? Yes 95 is right there but what about the hills & city of newark?
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Sheesh, all these unfinished highways, Delaware is gonna be sorry in years to come. They are gonna wish they built a full Newport freeway & a full Newark freeway. They wonder why 95 has such bad traffic? Uhh cause you got the whole delaware getting off at exits 273 & 896. Why? Cause we let people that probably don’t even drive everyday tell us what roads to build & shoot down every project that Deldot presents. & you say where will they build it? Gee maybe the same way they did Wilmington, pick a spot with the lowest housing prices. Of course white clay & that area has money. The state doesn’t wanna pay 1 million for people to leave their mansions? Understandable. Should have purchased their right of way a long time ago & stop letting people bully them.
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I guess my tax dollars are going to use. Because the roads in my area are going thru construction. & ok so Route 1 has chance for freeway standards pass christiana mall you think? & I know the whole state doesnt live off of 273/896. But a good MAJORITY lives in newark & the Glasgow bear area. & the closest exit to get to red mill road is 95@273 or 141 @kirkwood hwy. so because of the missing movements people all swarm at these exits, If the Newark highway was at least built. Would 273 need a whole need multimillion interchange? Would 896 need flyover ramps? & if I had the money I would. I would invest in the city & area. & make the area better, instead of expecting everyone else to do it.Sheesh, all these unfinished highways, Delaware is gonna be sorry in years to come. They are gonna wish they built a full Newport freeway & a full Newark freeway. They wonder why 95 has such bad traffic? Uhh cause you got the whole delaware getting off at exits 273 & 896. Why? Cause we let people that probably don’t even drive everyday tell us what roads to build & shoot down every project that Deldot presents. & you say where will they build it? Gee maybe the same way they did Wilmington, pick a spot with the lowest housing prices. Of course white clay & that area has money. The state doesn’t wanna pay 1 million for people to leave their mansions? Understandable. Should have purchased their right of way a long time ago & stop letting people bully them.
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The 'whole Delaware' getting off at 273 and 896? Route 1 dude. Route 1. Or how about Hockessin? Or North Wilmington? Or Middletown. You are wearing horse blinders if you think the entire state lives off 2 exits of a highway.
Also, how much do you pay in taxes? How about you increase it to a few billion so that Delaware has the money to build the roads you so desperately want?
Delaware has a pretty good road network. You're not going to get highways near every home, and many people don't want those highways near their homes anyway.
It also doesn't serve anything of major importance to the north, except for subdivisions and houses in Pennsylvania. It only adds to the burden that Delaware taxpayers have to maintain for out-of-state residents - to bypass a city. They chose to live out that far, and so they can deal with the traffic of Newark. Ideally, Newark's city center would be even more traffic calmed - it's a college town, after all.
Newark Beltway & Newport 141 never being completed or constructedIt also doesn't serve anything of major importance to the north, except for subdivisions and houses in Pennsylvania. It only adds to the burden that Delaware taxpayers have to maintain for out-of-state residents - to bypass a city. They chose to live out that far, and so they can deal with the traffic of Newark. Ideally, Newark's city center would be even more traffic calmed - it's a college town, after all.
What roads are being discussed here? I-476? US-202?
It also doesn't serve anything of major importance to the north, except for subdivisions and houses in Pennsylvania. It only adds to the burden that Delaware taxpayers have to maintain for out-of-state residents - to bypass a city. They chose to live out that far, and so they can deal with the traffic of Newark. Ideally, Newark's city center would be even more traffic calmed - it's a college town, after all.You think they wouldn’t toll that route? Coming from Pa?
What roads are being discussed here? I-476? US-202?Newark Beltway & Newport 141 never being completed or constructed
Yea, well AAroads has some information on the website. But 141 is partial built (with plans to upgrade it?) & The Newark Beltway was halted in discussion. We might be able to find grading on HA. But other then that The documents are probably in Deldot custody.What roads are being discussed here? I-476? US-202?Newark Beltway & Newport 141 never being completed or constructed
I didn't know there were ever any plans for them. Any maps online of the routes?
Yea, well AAroads has some information on the website. But 141 is partial built (with plans to upgrade it?) & The Newark Beltway was halted in discussion. We might be able to find grading on HA. But other then that The documents are probably in Deldot custody.What roads are being discussed here? I-476? US-202?Newark Beltway & Newport 141 never being completed or constructed
I didn't know there were ever any plans for them. Any maps online of the routes?
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The best source for old plans may actually be at the University of Delaware Library. Colleges, Universities and State Libraries are typical locations where plans of old wound up.Yea, well AAroads has some information on the website. But 141 is partial built (with plans to upgrade it?) & The Newark Beltway was halted in discussion. We might be able to find grading on HA. But other then that The documents are probably in Deldot custody.Newark Beltway & Newport 141 never being completed or constructedI didn't know there were ever any plans for them. Any maps online of the routes?
Draft EIS, 1970
DE-4, Newark Beltway, Ogletown to New London Road, New Castle County
https://tinyurl.com/y88qv3pm
Project about 7.7 miles long, a divided multi-lane arterial. Page down and you can see a map of the alternatives.
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I don't see the DE 141 extension yet, but I will note that I saw the viaduct under construction in 1976 and the scale and size and straightness looked like it would be part of a major freeway (and I later noticed that it never did).
When they make 95 six lanes will they add the lane to 495 southbound, or 141 C/D Roadway
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Oh so the bottleneck from those two highways emptying traffic will continue to get worse for the years to come.When they make 95 six lanes will they add the lane to 495 southbound, or 141 C/D Roadway
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What do you mean "when"? There's no plans to do so, so your question doesn't have an answer.
Oh so the bottleneck from those two highways emptying traffic will continue to get worse for the years to come.When they make 95 six lanes will they add the lane to 495 southbound, or 141 C/D Roadway
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What do you mean "when"? There's no plans to do so, so your question doesn't have an answer.
Of course. I have the Deldot projects page on my desktop. I know that adding another lane is going to be hard. As some of you already said. & The marshlands & etc which is harder to build on then a normal highway. But I said “when” as to future dates & if deldot will even be needed to do that. I said a 6th lane because the problem with traffic isn’t more so 95 but the fact that 141 exits doesn’t have its own lane for all the traffic is carries & The 495 extended merge lane, has helped push traffic onto 95 instead of blocking the 495 To 141 flyover ramp to the right. So I wouldn’t call that fixed. If you’ve been in the area at the crucial traffic times then you would have seen this. I still take the flyover 141 ramp & fly by everyone else. While I see how 95 is packed with traffic that looks worse then what it did before. So check you’re sources when you say it has improved conditions, I seen the deldot news article saying it has improved conditions of traffic. WHERE? On 495? Yea. 95 No! Now, my ideas are crazy. But am I looking at future or now? Ill give you an example. If the Newark beltway was created. Would Red Mill road & Harmony road (turning from kirkwood/capitol trail) need turning lanes thats double what Ive ever seen in any state for a local road? Now this is what Newark deals with since, they shot down their chances at a highway. Shit maybe they will build the highway in a couple years, because its only gonna get worse & adding MORE traffic lights & photo cameras will not help!Oh so the bottleneck from those two highways emptying traffic will continue to get worse for the years to come.When they make 95 six lanes will they add the lane to 495 southbound, or 141 C/D Roadway
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What do you mean "when"? There's no plans to do so, so your question doesn't have an answer.
The state only has so much money to fix so many issues, your expectations are entirely unrealistic. Widening I-95 again as discussed previously would be prohibitively expensive given the scope and location of the project in an environmentally sensitive area. This especially given how many other areas in the state desperately need more attention than that stretch of road, which is not as bad as you're making it out to be. From what I understand, the extended lane on I-495 has improved conditions along the I-95 / 495 SB merge anyway.
DelDOT for the most part posts all of their near-term projects on their website, which you can easily cross-check to see if these projects you're talking about even exist.
Are you talking about 6-laning I-95 thru downtown Wilmington?No the part where 495-295-141 Exits merge.
Are you talking about 6-laning I-95 thru downtown Wilmington?No the part where 495-295-141 Exits merge.
Yea its 10 lanes total, its needs to be 12 lanes total.Are you talking about 6-laning I-95 thru downtown Wilmington?No the part where 495-295-141 Exits merge.
I just checked and it looks like I-95 has 3 lanes each way thruout, no 2-lane section between Maryland and the downtown.
Ill give you an example. If the Newark beltway was created. Would Red Mill road & Harmony road (turning from kirkwood/capitol trail) need turning lanes thats double what Ive ever seen in any state for a local road?
I said the turn lanes from kirkwood highway to redmill road. & Harmony road They are not double turn lanes. They are 1 lane & extend double what a normal one lane turning lane is because there is no room for 2 turning lanes. And im giving an example of how not fixing a problem will only make it worse. Was my statement confusing?Ill give you an example. If the Newark beltway was created. Would Red Mill road & Harmony road (turning from kirkwood/capitol trail) need turning lanes thats double what Ive ever seen in any state for a local road?
y-yes?
How is a circumferential highway on the other side of town supposed to help traffic get from the Ogletown area and points south up to Kirkwood Highway, Pike Creek, and points north? And in what world is double turn lanes on a two-lane arterial roadway absurd?
I said the turn lanes from kirkwood highway to redmill road. & Harmony road They are not double turn lanes. They are 1 lane & extend double what a normal one lane turning lane is because there is no room for 2 turning lanes. And im giving an example of how not fixing a problem will only make it worse. Was my statement confusing?Ill give you an example. If the Newark beltway was created. Would Red Mill road & Harmony road (turning from kirkwood/capitol trail) need turning lanes thats double what Ive ever seen in any state for a local road?
y-yes?
How is a circumferential highway on the other side of town supposed to help traffic get from the Ogletown area and points south up to Kirkwood Highway, Pike Creek, and points north? And in what world is double turn lanes on a two-lane arterial roadway absurd?
Was my statement confusing?To be completely honest most of them are. For one thing, that long turn lane doesn't go anywhere near Red Mill Road.
Im sorry the road with the other long turning lane is Polly Drummond road. I forgot all roads do not, always carry the same name when crossing another.I said the turn lanes from kirkwood highway to redmill road. & Harmony road They are not double turn lanes. They are 1 lane & extend double what a normal one lane turning lane is because there is no room for 2 turning lanes. And im giving an example of how not fixing a problem will only make it worse. Was my statement confusing?Ill give you an example. If the Newark beltway was created. Would Red Mill road & Harmony road (turning from kirkwood/capitol trail) need turning lanes thats double what Ive ever seen in any state for a local road?
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How is a circumferential highway on the other side of town supposed to help traffic get from the Ogletown area and points south up to Kirkwood Highway, Pike Creek, and points north? And in what world is double turn lanes on a two-lane arterial roadway absurd?
That long left turn lane from Kirkwood Highway was created by combining the old left turn lane for Old Harmony Road with the existing lane, it was a clever way to expand the turning capacity without spending millions of dollars on road widening that wasn't top priority yet. Now that saved money can be used elsewhere until any potential widening becomes absolutely necessary. You don't seem to understand that the state does not have unlimited funds to acquire hundreds of properties or permits etc. for these projects you've dreamed up. They're being as wise with the money they do have as they can, blowing it all on an expensive beltway that no one seems to be asking for and no one has any room to build is not fiscal prudence.QuoteWas my statement confusing?To be completely honest most of them are. For one thing, that long turn lane doesn't go anywhere near Red Mill Road.
Im sorry the road with the other long turning lane is Polly Drummond road. I forgot all roads do not, always carry the same name when crossing another.I said the turn lanes from kirkwood highway to redmill road. & Harmony road They are not double turn lanes. They are 1 lane & extend double what a normal one lane turning lane is because there is no room for 2 turning lanes. And im giving an example of how not fixing a problem will only make it worse. Was my statement confusing?Ill give you an example. If the Newark beltway was created. Would Red Mill road & Harmony road (turning from kirkwood/capitol trail) need turning lanes thats double what Ive ever seen in any state for a local road?
y-yes?
How is a circumferential highway on the other side of town supposed to help traffic get from the Ogletown area and points south up to Kirkwood Highway, Pike Creek, and points north? And in what world is double turn lanes on a two-lane arterial roadway absurd?
That long left turn lane from Kirkwood Highway was created by combining the old left turn lane for Old Harmony Road with the existing lane, it was a clever way to expand the turning capacity without spending millions of dollars on road widening that wasn't top priority yet. Now that saved money can be used elsewhere until any potential widening becomes absolutely necessary. You don't seem to understand that the state does not have unlimited funds to acquire hundreds of properties or permits etc. for these projects you've dreamed up. They're being as wise with the money they do have as they can, blowing it all on an expensive beltway that no one seems to be asking for and no one has any room to build is not fiscal prudence.QuoteWas my statement confusing?To be completely honest most of them are. For one thing, that long turn lane doesn't go anywhere near Red Mill Road.
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Thats good then. How will they widen the road with the grave yard right there. Its gonna be hard to do with all those houses & businesses. & My rants are more how these projects could have helped the area. Every city has a well connected road system & Delaware, well I cant say that so much.Im sorry the road with the other long turning lane is Polly Drummond road. I forgot all roads do not, always carry the same name when crossing another.I said the turn lanes from kirkwood highway to redmill road. & Harmony road They are not double turn lanes. They are 1 lane & extend double what a normal one lane turning lane is because there is no room for 2 turning lanes. And im giving an example of how not fixing a problem will only make it worse. Was my statement confusing?Ill give you an example. If the Newark beltway was created. Would Red Mill road & Harmony road (turning from kirkwood/capitol trail) need turning lanes thats double what Ive ever seen in any state for a local road?
y-yes?
How is a circumferential highway on the other side of town supposed to help traffic get from the Ogletown area and points south up to Kirkwood Highway, Pike Creek, and points north? And in what world is double turn lanes on a two-lane arterial roadway absurd?
That long left turn lane from Kirkwood Highway was created by combining the old left turn lane for Old Harmony Road with the existing lane, it was a clever way to expand the turning capacity without spending millions of dollars on road widening that wasn't top priority yet. Now that saved money can be used elsewhere until any potential widening becomes absolutely necessary. You don't seem to understand that the state does not have unlimited funds to acquire hundreds of properties or permits etc. for these projects you've dreamed up. They're being as wise with the money they do have as they can, blowing it all on an expensive beltway that no one seems to be asking for and no one has any room to build is not fiscal prudence.QuoteWas my statement confusing?To be completely honest most of them are. For one thing, that long turn lane doesn't go anywhere near Red Mill Road.
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Polly Drummond's isn't terribly long either. That whole intersection is getting redone anyhow in a few years, and I believe a project at the Harmony intersection got added to the CTP this past year also.
Every city has a well connected road system & Delaware, well I cant say that so much.
Sorry should have said “Every city needs to have a well connected road system” I am aware that this is a “everywhere” issue.Every city has a well connected road system & Delaware, well I cant say that so much.
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You haven't left Delaware much, have you?
Thats good then. How will they widen the road with the grave yard right there. Its gonna be hard to do with all those houses & businesses. & My rants are more how these projects could have helped the area. Every city has a well connected road system & Delaware, well I cant say that so much.US-202 between King of Prussia PA and New Hope PA... Hartford could make use of a beltway, but those plans are long gone... etc.
You see how many roads you have to go up & down. Thats my point right there, I know about the back roads that are good when its traffic. But all this thru traffic is clogging the roads we use to simply get from home & work, highways definitely help deference local & commuter traffic. As well as it being vice versa. So maybe so many local roads wouldnt have to be upgraded if we had highways.Thats good then. How will they widen the road with the grave yard right there. Its gonna be hard to do with all those houses & businesses. & My rants are more how these projects could have helped the area. Every city has a well connected road system & Delaware, well I cant say that so much.US-202 between King of Prussia PA and New Hope PA... Hartford could make use of a beltway, but those plans are long gone... etc.
In my experience of driving through some rush hour traffic in Wilmington and in Hartford, I don't find Wilmington/Newark to be too bad. If you know the back roads, it's manageable. It definitely would take longer than traffic-less I-95 (e.g. my old alternate route between Wilmington and Newark was US-13 to DE-273 to DE-58 to DE-4 to DE-72, that usually took 35-40 minutes, I-95 took about 20-25 minutes), but at least I was moving.
It's a mixed bag. I am a huge fan of complete streets (https://www.citylab.com/topics/complete-streets/), which can not only make a lot of roadways safer for all users - motorists, pedestrians, and cyclists (for example), but can alleviate traffic on arterials. By having a well-connected network of roads - and not a mess of cul-de-sacs, looping subdivisions with no through routes, and high-speed arterials dividing everything - you can benefit both local and commuter traffic.Wow that sounds nice. A well connected road system. I wonder if Nimbys would allow that.
It's a mixed bag. I am a huge fan of complete streets (https://www.citylab.com/topics/complete-streets/), which can not only make a lot of roadways safer for all users - motorists, pedestrians, and cyclists (for example), but can alleviate traffic on arterials. By having a well-connected network of roads - and not a mess of cul-de-sacs, looping subdivisions with no through routes, and high-speed arterials dividing everything - you can benefit both local and commuter traffic.Wow that sounds nice. A well connected road system. I wonder if Nimbys would allow that.
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Cmon jeff thats like saying a beltway wouldn’t help philly, Delaware needs a connecting highway aka Beltway. Too many people are going in circles to main points such as Wilmington-Newark-Kirkwood-New castle & Bear.It's a mixed bag. I am a huge fan of complete streets (https://www.citylab.com/topics/complete-streets/), which can not only make a lot of roadways safer for all users - motorists, pedestrians, and cyclists (for example), but can alleviate traffic on arterials. By having a well-connected network of roads - and not a mess of cul-de-sacs, looping subdivisions with no through routes, and high-speed arterials dividing everything - you can benefit both local and commuter traffic.Wow that sounds nice. A well connected road system. I wonder if Nimbys would allow that.
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Delaware has a well connected road system. It also has a lot of traffic. Another short bypass or two isn't going to suddenly make the state congestion free.
Philadelphia has a metro area of 6 million, Delaware doesn't even have a population of 1 million (and New Castle County is 560,000). Hartford has a metro area of 1.2 million, with similar characteristics to Wilmington, and it doesn't have a beltway and, outside of rush hour, it's tolerable.Delaware has a well connected road system. It also has a lot of traffic. Another short bypass or two isn't going to suddenly make the state congestion free.Cmon jeff thats like saying a beltway wouldn’t help philly, Delaware needs a connecting highway aka Beltway. Too many people are going in circles to main points such as Wilmington-Newark-Kirkwood-New castle & Bear.
Cmon jeff thats like saying a beltway wouldn’t help philly
Too many people are going in circles to main points such as Wilmington-Newark-Kirkwood-New castle & Bear.
The fact that I drive thru all these areas everyday. Tells me alot about how the traffic is flowing. Do you know how many people are just driving thru harmony road or red mill just to get to 273 then 95 or vice versa to kirkwood? They arent even making any stops but have to drive thru the area because there is no limited access freeway in the area. The best bet for deldot in the future is to upgrade 273 to limited access status. But maybe they already have that idea in mind. Sure Newark is small. But If you look at the statistics from the beltway project from the 60s/70’s, that I posted on here. Traffic was bad at that point as-well. You mean to tell me its lightened up? Then UD is building more campus, with a new train station coming along as well. Whats gonna happen to the 4 & elkton road? Are they gonna add another lane on both roads? Are they gonna grade separate the already bad 896/4 ?Cmon jeff thats like saying a beltway wouldn’t help philly
...saying a college town of 30,000+ people doesn't need a beltway is absolutely nothing like saying a metropolitan area of several million people doesn't need a beltway.Too many people are going in circles to main points such as Wilmington-Newark-Kirkwood-New castle & Bear.
And how do you suppose this exactly?
They don't. Not every road needs to be a freeway. Or 55 MPH. If your life choices dictate you living far from your destinations, from work, from school - then perhaps you should live closer. Delaware has far more pressing matters with the limited funds it has.I cannot believe you would say that to me. LIVE CLOSER? I already do. Im just pointing out the fact of thru traffic & local traffic. & hold on. Isnt Middletown building a brand new highway & that towns population isnt half of what New Castle is, they are building it for thru traffic to get of the streets right?
CHILL. OUT. No one has been able to figure out what you've been rambling on about for the last 3 pages. Take a step back and, my suggestion, take a break for 2 days and come back.They don't. Not every road needs to be a freeway. Or 55 MPH. If your life choices dictate you living far from your destinations, from work, from school - then perhaps you should live closer. Delaware has far more pressing matters with the limited funds it has.I cannot believe you would say that to me. LIVE CLOSER? I already do. Im just pointing out the fact of thru traffic & local traffic. & hold on. Isnt Middletown building a brand new highway & that towns population isnt half of what New Castle is, they are building it for thru traffic to get of the streets right?
The fact that I drive thru all these areas everyday. Tells me alot about how the traffic is flowing. Do you know how many people are just driving thru harmony road or red mill just to get to 273 then 95 or vice versa to kirkwood? They arent even making any stops but have to drive thru the area because there is no limited access freeway in the area. The best bet for deldot in the future is to upgrade 273 to limited access status. But maybe they already have that idea in mind. Sure Newark is small. But If you look at the statistics from the beltway project from the 60s/70’s, that I posted on here. Traffic was bad at that point as-well. You mean to tell me its lightened up? Then UD is building more campus, with a new train station coming along as well. Whats gonna happen to the 4 & elkton road? Are they gonna add another lane on both roads? Are they gonna grade separate the already bad 896/4 ?I've driven through the 896/4 intersection in rush hour (7am and 5:30pm). I never thought driving through that intersection was that bad. If anything, DE-72 southbound in the evening rush hour looks painful, but outside of rush hour it's totally fine. It may seem like a good idea to add more lanes/more roads/etc. but typically that brings about even more sprawl. That's what happened to Dover in the 1950s when they built the Dover bypass (US-13 at the time) and in Central Connecticut with the Berlin Turnpike (US-5/CT-15), necessitating another major highway to take their place (DE-1 and I-91, respectively).
The fact that I drive thru all these areas everyday. Tells me alot about how the traffic is flowing. Do you know how many people are just driving thru harmony road or red mill just to get to 273 then 95 or vice versa to kirkwood? They arent even making any stops but have to drive thru the area because there is no limited access freeway in the area.
Are they gonna grade separate the already bad 896/4 ?
DE 1 helped bypass much of this to Dover but just furthered sprawl much further down the state. What was a mostly rural state with an urban core around Wilmington is now sprawled out down to Dover and along the ocean. I can't help but find that sad in comparison and wished that they had developed the growth boundaries that Maryland has to preserve its rural areas.I was wondering why the Eastern Shore of Maryland seems so much less sprawling than Delaware. I thought it was just because getting down there from Philadelphia was so much more difficult (US-301) than the Delaware part (DE-1) of Delmarva. I remember seeing on Wikipedia that the population of Kent County MD is 18% of that of Kent County DE! (even though they're right next to each other) And it seems like there's new construction everywhere around Dover and Camden...and south. It's difficult since I do generally like that things here are less congested.
Philadelphia has a metro area of 6 million, Delaware doesn't even have a population of 1 million (and New Castle County is 560,000). Hartford has a metro area of 1.2 million, with similar characteristics to Wilmington, and it doesn't have a beltway and, outside of rush hour, it's tolerable.
Thanks for mentioning it that way, Beltway. I hadn't really thought of 495, since my mind was more centered on the whole concept of "beltways," and not bypasses in general. Not only does 495 provide an alternate route around Wilmington, it serves as a good alternate route into the city (at least downtown) via US-13.Philadelphia has a metro area of 6 million, Delaware doesn't even have a population of 1 million (and New Castle County is 560,000). Hartford has a metro area of 1.2 million, with similar characteristics to Wilmington, and it doesn't have a beltway and, outside of rush hour, it's tolerable.
I've always thought that Delaware did very, very well to get an Interstate bypass (I-495) of Wilmington, and that was allocated all the way back in the 1955 "Yellow Book". If that had been denied (and the planners back then easily could have) then presumably DelDOT would have built I-95 thru Wilmington with 6 lanes and left it at that, as an 8-lane widening looks difficult or impossible in the downtown section. Instead with the opening of I-495 in 1977, there is a 10-lane corridor with one urban Interstate and one bypass Interstate, between the Delaware Turnpike and the PA border. I-495 also provides direct access to the Port of Wilmington, something that I-95 does not.
I-295 also bypasses Wilmington, but that highway had already been built in 1951 to connect US-13 across the river to the NJ Turnpike. But still the planners allocated both Interstate highways, one a bypass of SE PA (separate from the NJ Turnpike) and one a bypass of Wilmington only, in addition to I-95 thru the downtown. Pretty generous provision of highways, IMHO.
I guess Tony wasn't around for the good ol' days when 273 had the gap in it between 4 and Ogletown Road, forcing traffic thru the 10' clearance Avon Underpass which flooded every time it drizzled. The resulting roadway is a curvy, poor sightlined road, with gems such as this Jersey-style jughandle ( https://goo.gl/maps/ZWFD2wrhcuy ) that serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever. And it brought about a fair amount of the congestion points on 273 that is being complained about (especially around Harmony Road), showing that simply building a roadway or bypass doesn't completely relieve congestion, and can bring about new congestion points.I am only 20, I only know so much, off of my own research & my own eyes.Thus I depend on this fantastic group of people to fill me in. I am sorry if I can get a little “Ranty” I do love history.
But think of how much more congested that northern Delaware would be if I-295 didn't exist.Yes, you are right. I should have been more clear, but that's what I meant by my "longer distance" comment. I tend to come from Pennsylvania more which is why I didn't really think of 295 much.
But think of how much more congested that northern Delaware would be if I-295 didn't exist.Yes, you are right. I should have been more clear, but that's what I meant by my "longer distance" comment. I tend to come from Pennsylvania more which is why I didn't really think of 295 much.
I have designed maintenance of traffic layouts for Interstate highway projects, back in the days when I worked in traffic engineering. One of the 6-lane widening projects on I-95 in Hanover County VA.Typically it's the contractor trying to shortcut things... or else formal plans were never developed... which I find hard to believe but you see so many things out there...
It takes a lot of engineering thought and planning to do something like that in the Delaware project where several miles of transitions and lane closures need to be designed and detailed on plan sheets.
Then the resident engineer and the contractor needs to follow the plans and set it up exactly right on the ground.
I just returned home from a short drive into Maryland, and I must say that DelDOT did a remarkably poor job handling a planned lane closure on I-95 at DE 141/US 202 (which coincidently is at a crucial point in the I-95/I-495/I-295 sequence of splits).
All four lanes carrying through I-95/I-495 traffic were closed–apparently to accommodate work underneath the DE 141/US 202 overpass. So all I-95/I-495 traffic was forced to merge into the two lanes marked for I-295, and vehicles came to a crawl back to the Christiana Mall and beyond. But I’m not complaining about the backup; that’s perhaps unavoidable if the lane closure was necessary.
What I found troublesome was the lack of any temporary guide signage whatsoever. The only signage I saw merely warned of the impending lane closure. As I passed the point where the I-95 and I-295 carriageways begin to separate, I began to worry that there was no path back to I-95 and that I’d have to make a quick exit onto US 13 and detour through Wilmington to avoid an unscheduled (and unwanted) trip to New Jersey. But again, no detour signs were posted.
Then as I was looking up ahead at the US 13 signage preparing to detour, I noticed a car, two vehicles in front of me, shoot through a gap in the construction barrels, across an emergency turnaround, and back into the I-95 carriageway. Looking further, I could see a few more vehicles further ahead on I-95, and way off in the distance, I could make out an “END CONSTRUCTION” sign. So I quickly concluded that these weren’t lawbreakers–just a ridiculously poorly signed work area–and I shot through the gap.
I’d really be interested to hear whoever at DelDOT was responsible for the handling at traffic controls through this work area attempt to offer a defense.
I just returned home from a short drive into Maryland, and I must say that DelDOT did a remarkably poor job handling a planned lane closure on I-95 at DE 141/US 202 (which coincidently is at a crucial point in the I-95/I-495/I-295 sequence of splits).
All four lanes carrying through I-95/I-495 traffic were closed–apparently to accommodate work underneath the DE 141/US 202 overpass. So all I-95/I-495 traffic was forced to merge into the two lanes marked for I-295, and vehicles came to a crawl back to the Christiana Mall and beyond. But I’m not complaining about the backup; that’s perhaps unavoidable if the lane closure was necessary.
What I found troublesome was the lack of any temporary guide signage whatsoever. The only signage I saw merely warned of the impending lane closure. As I passed the point where the I-95 and I-295 carriageways begin to separate, I began to worry that there was no path back to I-95 and that I’d have to make a quick exit onto US 13 and detour through Wilmington to avoid an unscheduled (and unwanted) trip to New Jersey. But again, no detour signs were posted.
Then as I was looking up ahead at the US 13 signage preparing to detour, I noticed a car, two vehicles in front of me, shoot through a gap in the construction barrels, across an emergency turnaround, and back into the I-95 carriageway. Looking further, I could see a few more vehicles further ahead on I-95, and way off in the distance, I could make out an “END CONSTRUCTION” sign. So I quickly concluded that these weren’t lawbreakers–just a ridiculously poorly signed work area–and I shot through the gap.
I’d really be interested to hear whoever at DelDOT was responsible for the handling at traffic controls through this work area attempt to offer a defense.
Or Chester and Philadelphia. If someone (can't remember who?) was complaining of the six-lanes through the gulch of Chester now, dumping I-295/NJ Turnpike traffic onto it would have been a nightmare.I believe that was, I who said that. I would hope to think that Chester would have been 10 lanes, If 295 was not built.
What causes the slowdown is way too much traffic squeezing into 2 lanes, the ramp from 141 that has no merge area, a left US 13 North exit, and an unnecessary 50 mph speed limit.So a 3rd lane from the The 141 New Castle Exit,
It's considerably better than back when traffic from the 95/495 South ramp on the left could cross the 2, 295 North lanes to take the 13 South/40 West ramp.
If 295 North was widened to 3 lanes here, it would greatly reduce the congestion. When the US 13S/40W ramp was modified, they added enough room for a 3rd 295 North lane. When they rebuilt the 141 overpasses, they were constructed to allow a future 3rd 295 North lane. So a few of the obstacles have been eliminated.
Now, to answer your next question...when will a 3rd lane be built? I don't know of any plans right now. Both DelDOT and the DRBA will have areas of jurisdiction for such a project.
Now, to answer your next question...when will a 3rd lane be built? I don't know of any plans right now. Both DelDOT and the DRBA will have areas of jurisdiction for such a project.
^^(Love the way I-295 is either northbound or westbound.)
Delaware 95 NB is backed up all the way to the Service center.It's the day before Thanksgiving, I'm not surprised at all. I remember a few years ago it took me 30 minutes to get from the middle of the Delaware Memorial Bridge to I-295/DE-9 on the Saturday after Thanksgiving.
295 just needs fly over ramps. Push that traffic to 295 like they did De 1.Delaware 95 NB is backed up all the way to the Service center.It's the day before Thanksgiving, I'm not surprised at all. I remember a few years ago it took me 30 minutes to get from the middle of the Delaware Memorial Bridge to I-295/DE-9 on the Saturday after Thanksgiving.
It appears an alternative has been chosen by DelDOT for the I-95 / DE 896 interchange improvements:Thats the best choice, it will eliminate many problems with that area.
Project Website (https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/i95/i95_sr896/index.shtml)
Selected Alternative (https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/i95/i95_sr896/pdfs/publicWorkshops/I95-896-Newsletter-Fall-2018.pdf)
It appears an alternative has been chosen by DelDOT for the I-95 / DE 896 interchange improvements:Thats the best choice, it will eliminate many problems with that area.
Project Website (https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/i95/i95_sr896/index.shtml)
Selected Alternative (https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/i95/i95_sr896/pdfs/publicWorkshops/I95-896-Newsletter-Fall-2018.pdf)
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I think they did that jeff, because from experience of driving thru the area, more traffic comes off the ramps & that causes more slowdown then thru traffic. When they redid the 13/141 bridge, they cut off the To 141 two lanes & turned into 1 lane, while giving merging 13 southbound to 141 on ramp a lane, this greatly reduced accidents/merging areas & backups on both 141 & 13, even though its one lane, it seems one lane of traffic moves faster then two lanes & a merging ramp. So it might help the area more, but I do see what you’re saying, 2 lanes is really needed in that area.It appears an alternative has been chosen by DelDOT for the I-95 / DE 896 interchange improvements:Thats the best choice, it will eliminate many problems with that area.
Project Website (https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/i95/i95_sr896/index.shtml)
Selected Alternative (https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/i95/i95_sr896/pdfs/publicWorkshops/I95-896-Newsletter-Fall-2018.pdf)
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I agree with the Ramp C (95 South to 896 South).
However, look at 896 South thru the interchange area. It's actually reduced to one lane, seemingly for no reason as there's still room for 2 lanes. Coming from Newark, the right lane becomes an exit only lane for 95 South; a ramp not often used because you immediately hit the $4 toll plaza. The ramp from 896 South to 95 North also seems to be greatly exaggerated...when the current ramp from 95 South to 896 South is removed, they won't have the weaving movement that currently exists. The new 95 North to 896 Ramp seems to ride the current path of that ramp, but it really doesn't need to change from its current position. The new 95 South to 896 South ramp can use a retaining wall to reduce the footprint (ie: the 95 North to 1/7 North Ramp at Interchange 4).
896 North is also reduced to 1 lane momentarily where the ramp departs for 95 North.
Overall, the flyover ramp from 95 South to 896 South is by far the best and most needed part of this interchange. However, what they're doing to thru traffic on 896 is numbing, and will cause congestion and last-second merging issues.
Is it just me, or has DelDOT never truly given up on the original US 301 expressway plan and has instead decided to take the DE 1 approach for 896, slowly upgrading it one intersection at a time?Wow roadsguy, I never thought of it like that, maybe in the end 896 will be a full highway & De-1 will be completed by turning De-7 into De-1.
It appears an alternative has been chosen by DelDOT for the I-95 / DE 896 interchange improvements:Thats the best choice, it will eliminate many problems with that area.
Project Website (https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/i95/i95_sr896/index.shtml)
Selected Alternative (https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/i95/i95_sr896/pdfs/publicWorkshops/I95-896-Newsletter-Fall-2018.pdf)
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I agree with the Ramp C (95 South to 896 South).
However, look at 896 South thru the interchange area. It's actually reduced to one lane, seemingly for no reason as there's still room for 2 lanes. Coming from Newark, the right lane becomes an exit only lane for 95 South; a ramp not often used because you immediately hit the $4 toll plaza. The ramp from 896 South to 95 North also seems to be greatly exaggerated...when the current ramp from 95 South to 896 South is removed, they won't have the weaving movement that currently exists. The new 95 North to 896 Ramp seems to ride the current path of that ramp, but it really doesn't need to change from its current position. The new 95 South to 896 South ramp can use a retaining wall to reduce the footprint (ie: the 95 North to 1/7 North Ramp at Interchange 4).
896 North is also reduced to 1 lane momentarily where the ramp departs for 95 North.
Overall, the flyover ramp from 95 South to 896 South is by far the best and most needed part of this interchange. However, what they're doing to thru traffic on 896 is numbing, and will cause congestion and last-second merging issues.
Someone hit the BGS On 1-95 SB at this https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6933964,-75.6267418,3a,75y,243.37h,96.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7-cvE_G8TJ1jMR7f5lS-ow!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6933964,-75.6267418,3a,75y,243.37h,96.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7-cvE_G8TJ1jMR7f5lS-ow!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) Location, in the 4th lane, I wonder what happened, because the one right before the DE-1 Flyover-ramps are not affected.You can report damages to DelDOT using this form: https://www.deldot.gov/Traffic/ReportRoadCondition/index.shtml
Interesting story, on what happened to the original Saint gorges bridge, (Link inside of story about current bridge construction)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.delawareonline.com/amp/2541667002 (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.delawareonline.com/amp/2541667002)
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I agree that could have easily tore that bridge down & created ANOTHER park.Interesting story, on what happened to the original Saint gorges bridge, (Link inside of story about current bridge construction)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.delawareonline.com/amp/2541667002 (https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.delawareonline.com/amp/2541667002)
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Delawarians are very fortunate that bridge is still open and Delaware is spending money on it.
Eyeroll. But at 77 years old, the bridge will be facing a replacement or major rehabilitation option in 30 years, and with it carrying so little traffic, I don't see it being replaced. It's very expensive to build a bridge over the canal because of its height and span length, and if you are serving 11,300 vehicles per day (2016), could traffic simply be diverted to SR 1 or SR 9? At its current configuration, it carries one car lane and a protected bike lane in each direction.Is the Sr9 Bridge the same age? How about the summit bridge? If they close the St.Georges bridge, that will cause traffic on the 1 to double, just like they said. They will have to restrip De-1 to 4 lanes all the way to the merge & then it will have to be 3 lanes all the way to 95.
Is the Sr9 Bridge the same age? How about the summit bridge?
If they close the St.Georges bridge, that will cause traffic on the 1 to double, just like they said.
Your right I exaggerated the number, but with the amount of new neighborhoods being built including the 3 NEW ONES around the bridge & the 301 opening. Traffic could definitely be doubled in maybe 5-10 years. & the timing of the other two bridges built is not that far off, seems like those bridges will have 25 years max before they will have to be rehabbed like the current St.Georges bridge is.Quote from: TonytoneIs the Sr9 Bridge the same age? How about the summit bridge?
No. Route 9 bridge was built in 1968, 26 years after the St. Georges Bridge. Summit Bridge is also newer than St. Georges...built in 1960.QuoteIf they close the St.Georges bridge, that will cause traffic on the 1 to double, just like they said.
First off, WHO said?
Second, traffic volume on the St. Georges Bridge is just over 11K. Volume on the Route 1 bridge is around 90K. Even if all of the St. Georges traffic shifted to the Route 1 bridge, that is not even close to a "doubling of traffic".
Your right I exaggerated the number, but with the amount of new neighborhoods being built including the 3 NEW ONES around the bridge & the 301 opening. Traffic could definitely be doubled in maybe 5-10 years. & the timing of the other two bridges built is not that far off, seems like those bridges will have 25 years max before they will have to be rehabbed like the current St.Georges bridge is.Quote from: TonytoneIs the Sr9 Bridge the same age? How about the summit bridge?
No. Route 9 bridge was built in 1968, 26 years after the St. Georges Bridge. Summit Bridge is also newer than St. Georges...built in 1960.QuoteIf they close the St.Georges bridge, that will cause traffic on the 1 to double, just like they said.
First off, WHO said?
Second, traffic volume on the St. Georges Bridge is just over 11K. Volume on the Route 1 bridge is around 90K. Even if all of the St. Georges traffic shifted to the Route 1 bridge, that is not even close to a "doubling of traffic".
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Ok yall are right, so I assume yall dont see the traffic doubling anytime soon, even with all the new construction. With all the traffic being pushed onto the 1 I assume traffic levels are going to go up in due time. What else would have to be added if traffic was doubled?Your right I exaggerated the number, but with the amount of new neighborhoods being built including the 3 NEW ONES around the bridge & the 301 opening. Traffic could definitely be doubled in maybe 5-10 years. & the timing of the other two bridges built is not that far off, seems like those bridges will have 25 years max before they will have to be rehabbed like the current St.Georges bridge is.Quote from: TonytoneIs the Sr9 Bridge the same age? How about the summit bridge?
No. Route 9 bridge was built in 1968, 26 years after the St. Georges Bridge. Summit Bridge is also newer than St. Georges...built in 1960.QuoteIf they close the St.Georges bridge, that will cause traffic on the 1 to double, just like they said.
First off, WHO said?
Second, traffic volume on the St. Georges Bridge is just over 11K. Volume on the Route 1 bridge is around 90K. Even if all of the St. Georges traffic shifted to the Route 1 bridge, that is not even close to a "doubling of traffic".
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You're still exaggerating.
If volumes doubled, there would be a helluva lot more traffic issues than just adding a lane on the bridge.
Still, at 90K AADT, 8 lanes is a reasonable consideration. Add another 11K and it becomes an issue with peak period congestion. So they'll need to address this long-term unless they rebuild 13.They are rebuilding the 1/13 merge soon (Idk how long till then) but I noticed De-1 around middletown & up to tybouts corner is pretty crazy in the morning and evening rush. De-1 needed 4 lanes 3 years ago. I wonder when they will be adding the extra lane all the way up to the NB Route 7.
I keep hoping that the 301 connector to Summit Bridge will relieve some traffic from SR 1, but I'm not sure of that.
I keep hoping that the 301 connector to Summit Bridge will relieve some traffic from SR 1, but I'm not sure of that.
Well, with the interchange upgrades planned on DE 896 at I-95 and US 40, the spur road may make it a real contender for a DE 1 relief route. (Something something turned tables...) It's a limited access surface expressway between the bridge and I-95 and could still easily be upgraded to a full freeway, especially south of US 40. They could make it a long-term strategy like DE 1 south of Dover, one interchange at a time.
On a related note, did we ever figure out what's up with the seemingly misaligned southbound lanes adjusting south of Glasgow? I remember it being brought up a while ago on this forum, but can't remember if we reached any conclusion.
I keep hoping that the 301 connector to Summit Bridge will relieve some traffic from SR 1, but I'm not sure of that.
Well, with the interchange upgrades planned on DE 896 at I-95 and US 40, the spur road may make it a real contender for a DE 1 relief route. (Something something turned tables...) It's a limited access surface expressway between the bridge and I-95 and could still easily be upgraded to a full freeway, especially south of US 40. They could make it a long-term strategy like DE 1 south of Dover, one interchange at a time.
On a related note, did we ever figure out what's up with the seemingly misaligned southbound lanes adjusting south of Glasgow? I remember it being brought up a while ago on this forum, but can't remember if we reached any conclusion.
Surveying error, they just poured the concrete in the wrong place, im shocked that police dont sit there and wait for people to speed by, Im glad they dont tho.
and they have the interchange upgrades planned, but what are they gonna do with the Old cooches bridge road across from 4 seasons, the Glasgow high road and old baltimore pike road, thats either 3 more interchanges or they will be cutting those roads off and redirecting the traffic elsewhere.
Yes, I think we all know that will definitely be the final plan, Then after that they can turn Route 7 after the last 95 Exit into De-1 all the way to Hockessin :PI keep hoping that the 301 connector to Summit Bridge will relieve some traffic from SR 1, but I'm not sure of that.
Well, with the interchange upgrades planned on DE 896 at I-95 and US 40, the spur road may make it a real contender for a DE 1 relief route. (Something something turned tables...) It's a limited access surface expressway between the bridge and I-95 and could still easily be upgraded to a full freeway, especially south of US 40. They could make it a long-term strategy like DE 1 south of Dover, one interchange at a time.
On a related note, did we ever figure out what's up with the seemingly misaligned southbound lanes adjusting south of Glasgow? I remember it being brought up a while ago on this forum, but can't remember if we reached any conclusion.
Surveying error, they just poured the concrete in the wrong place, im shocked that police dont sit there and wait for people to speed by, Im glad they dont tho.
and they have the interchange upgrades planned, but what are they gonna do with the Old cooches bridge road across from 4 seasons, the Glasgow high road and old baltimore pike road, thats either 3 more interchanges or they will be cutting those roads off and redirecting the traffic elsewhere.
I don't know and I'm sure they don't have immediate plans. I'm just saying it's comparatively easier to upgrade 896 than, say, US 13 between Tybouts Corner and I-295 or DE 141 between DE 2 and US 202.
I keep hoping that the 301 connector to Summit Bridge will relieve some traffic from SR 1, but I'm not sure of that.On a related note, did we ever figure out what's up with the seemingly misaligned southbound lanes adjusting south of Glasgow? I remember it being brought up a while ago on this forum, but can't remember if we reached any conclusion.
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So yeaa what could have caused this?
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People are pretty mad about this upcoming project, Main street needs to be upgraded. But Deldot should definitely not add more meters during construction on different streets to continue getting their money. I wish planners back in the day would have made mainstreet & the City of Newark a lot bigger, so much more could have been in Newark.
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As far as the construction goes, unfortunately it's probably needed. They question why doesn't Deldot wait until the summer because of move out. Well...what about move in? Its going to affect them too, for two years. They can't just delay the project forever.There were many times at UD when I'd be biking to the university and Main Street was just a disaster as a bicyclist because of all the potholes. I'm surprised I never crashed there (I did crash once on College Avenue though, but that was my fault).
^ I looked at the full graphic (https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/crb/pdf/latest_graphics/Aerial_with_graphic.pdf). It does not show a new ramp to 95. What you're confusing for a new ramp is in reality planned as connecting New Sweeden St to Beech St underneath the I-95 Viaduct.Are you sure froggie? Look again, you can see a orange ramp going up to 95, I see the dotted road under the viaduct.
Edit: Froggie is correct, my eyes fooled me for a sec.^ I looked at the full graphic (https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/crb/pdf/latest_graphics/Aerial_with_graphic.pdf). It does not show a new ramp to 95. What you're confusing for a new ramp is in reality planned as connecting New Sweeden St to Beech St underneath the I-95 Viaduct.Are you sure froggie? Look again, you can see a orange ramp going up to 95, I see the dotted road under the viaduct.
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If Newark wants meters added wouldnt they just make Deldot install them? Or do they use another company?
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I wonder why Delaware got rid of the trolleys.
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But look at philly! I know philly is way bigger & more populous, but they still use trolleys & are adding some old lines back. I think Delaware messed up by removing every single Trolly track. One to the riverfront would greatly bring more tourists & people for example.I wonder why Delaware got rid of the trolleys.
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Cars.
When you go back in history, there were quite a number of towns, cities and regions that had trolleys and trains. As ownership of private vehicles increased, the trolley lines experienced less traffic and were shut down. In some cases, the rail lines are still under the pavement we drive on today. Sometimes they're known; sometimes they're unexpectedly hit when a road is being dug up!
But look at philly! I know philly is way bigger & more populous, but they still use trolleys & are adding some old lines back. I think Delaware messed up by removing every single Trolly track. One to the riverfront would greatly bring more tourists & people for example.I wonder why Delaware got rid of the trolleys.
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Cars.
When you go back in history, there were quite a number of towns, cities and regions that had trolleys and trains. As ownership of private vehicles increased, the trolley lines experienced less traffic and were shut down. In some cases, the rail lines are still under the pavement we drive on today. Sometimes they're known; sometimes they're unexpectedly hit when a road is being dug up!
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Well they are building two new hotels at the riverfront, & all the improvements such as the new bridge & roads, will create more development. Now that Im thinking about it buses are basically trackless trolleys, I assume the pro of a trolley is to pass all the bs that you would deal with on the street. Delaware’s roads aren’t even wide enough to handle the traffic of Multiple transit modes, but the app taxis seems to be the best choice, not many taxis in Wilmington anyway. im surprised they fit the trolly tracks on the streets they did. In fact im shocked that we dont have a subway system, Wilmington is small enough for a compact system that could travel the whole city & some suburbs.But look at philly! I know philly is way bigger & more populous, but they still use trolleys & are adding some old lines back. I think Delaware messed up by removing every single Trolly track. One to the riverfront would greatly bring more tourists & people for example.I wonder why Delaware got rid of the trolleys.
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Cars.
When you go back in history, there were quite a number of towns, cities and regions that had trolleys and trains. As ownership of private vehicles increased, the trolley lines experienced less traffic and were shut down. In some cases, the rail lines are still under the pavement we drive on today. Sometimes they're known; sometimes they're unexpectedly hit when a road is being dug up!
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Where are tourists going to stay that they would make use of a trolley line to the Riverfront?
Also, they are way slower than most public-transit modes of transportation. And when there's an option of not driving to a tourist destination, rideshares (Uber/Lyft) are the overwhelming favorite mode of choice.
In fact im shocked that we dont have a subway system, Wilmington is small enough for a compact system that could travel the whole city & some suburbs.
Now Alex, I thought of the same thing, until I found out that boston has a subway system & they are smaller then us right?In fact im shocked that we dont have a subway system, Wilmington is small enough for a compact system that could travel the whole city & some suburbs.
More like small enough that a subway system isn't remotely feasible for the relatively meager amount of traffic it'd get. No city of Wilmington's stature and population is going to put billions of dollars into a subway system, at least not here in the US.
Now Alex, I thought of the same thing, until I found out that boston has a subway system & they are smaller then us right?In fact im shocked that we dont have a subway system, Wilmington is small enough for a compact system that could travel the whole city & some suburbs.
More like small enough that a subway system isn't remotely feasible for the relatively meager amount of traffic it'd get. No city of Wilmington's stature and population is going to put billions of dollars into a subway system, at least not here in the US.
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Im sorry, I should have done the research. Looking on the map I can see that Boston it self is bigger than the whole state of Delaware, I dont know what I was thinking rhode island size, that being said I still dont think Delaware should have gotten rid of it light rail. This would have added some type of culture That Delaware is trying to build.Now Alex, I thought of the same thing, until I found out that boston has a subway system & they are smaller then us right?In fact im shocked that we dont have a subway system, Wilmington is small enough for a compact system that could travel the whole city & some suburbs.
More like small enough that a subway system isn't remotely feasible for the relatively meager amount of traffic it'd get. No city of Wilmington's stature and population is going to put billions of dollars into a subway system, at least not here in the US.
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...the Boston metro area has over 4.5x as many people as the entire state of Delaware.
:-oI'm sorry, I should have done the research. Looking on the map I can see that Boston it self is bigger than the whole state of Delaware, I dont know what I was thinking Rhode Island size, that being said I still dont think Delaware should have gotten rid of it light rail. This would have added some type of culture That Delaware is trying to build....the Boston metro area has over 4.5x as many people as the entire state of Delaware.Now Alex, I thought of the same thing, until I found out that Boston has a subway system & they are smaller then us right?In fact im shocked that we dont have a subway system, Wilmington is small enough for a compact system that could travel the whole city & some suburbs.More like small enough that a subway system isn't remotely feasible for the relatively meager amount of traffic it'd get. No city of Wilmington's stature and population is going to put billions of dollars into a subway system, at least not here in the US.
I see, so Wilmington's population falling after 1950 furthermore insured that Trolley lines were removed, and subway plans never even came up, and lastly the city limits were never pushed making The City of Wilmington bigger. That's a shame because if the Wilmington City limits were to be the whole top of Delaware down to Kirkwood Hwy as the stopping point, the population of Wilmington would be 200,000+ right? Maybe even more, if that was the case Id Assume we would have more Transit options.... Please just stop dragging this thread down unnecessary Fictional roads? Please?
Gotcha sorry about that, just trying to make convo.I see, so Wilmington's population falling after 1950 furthermore insured that Trolley lines were removed, and subway plans never even came up, and lastly the city limits were never pushed making The City of Wilmington bigger. That's a shame because if the Wilmington City limits were to be the whole top of Delaware down to Kirkwood Hwy as the stopping point, the population of Wilmington would be 200,000+ right? Maybe even more, if that was the case Id Assume we would have more Transit options.... Please just stop dragging this thread down unnecessary Fictional roads? Please?
In regards to expanding the city, I've heard the purpose of allowing the really tall building on the Concord Pike (I forget who owns it now) as an effort to expand the city to the north. It never happened, and left that area with an out-of-place semi-skyscraper.
Woww, is that really why that building is there. Explains it now, why did the plan fall through? Concord Pike seems like it should already be in the city limits along with other parts.In regards to expanding the city, I've heard the purpose of allowing the really tall building on the Concord Pike (I forget who owns it now) as an effort to expand the city to the north. It never happened, and left that area with an out-of-place semi-skyscraper.
I remember it as the Rollins Building. You can see it from the Roth Bridge over the C&D Canal, and the DuPont Country Club (where the LPGA used to have one of its major tournaments every year) is a couple of blocks behind the building.
I went to that building one time for a job interview in the '90s, and while killing time before going inside, this couple parked next to me, got a pair of lawn chairs out of their trunk, and headed off in the direction of the DuPont Country Club, no doubt possessing tickets to the LPGA tournament, which was going on that day. :)
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That's a shame because if the Wilmington City limits were to be the whole top of Delaware down to Kirkwood Hwy as the stopping point, the population of Wilmington would be 200,000+ right?About 2 years ago I pulled Census data to see what Wilmington's population would be if all of its ZIP codes (19801-19810) were part of the city limits and I think it came to 216,000. On that note, I think Newark (19702, 19711-19717) was around 150,000.
Hold on, Newark has more population then Wilmington? Or were you counting all the newark zip codes together?That's a shame because if the Wilmington City limits were to be the whole top of Delaware down to Kirkwood Hwy as the stopping point, the population of Wilmington would be 200,000+ right?About 2 years ago I pulled Census data to see what Wilmington's population would be if all of its ZIP codes (19801-19810) were part of the city limits and I think it came to 216,000. On that note, I think Newark (19702, 19711-19717) was around 150,000.
I think you misread what I said. All of the "Wilmington" ZIP codes (including ones like 19808, which doesn't enter the city limits) added up to around 216,000. All of the "Newark" ZIP codes (including 19702, which I don't think enters the city limits) added up to 150,000 or so.Hold on, Newark has more population then Wilmington? Or were you counting all the newark zip codes together?That's a shame because if the Wilmington City limits were to be the whole top of Delaware down to Kirkwood Hwy as the stopping point, the population of Wilmington would be 200,000+ right?About 2 years ago I pulled Census data to see what Wilmington's population would be if all of its ZIP codes (19801-19810) were part of the city limits and I think it came to 216,000. On that note, I think Newark (19702, 19711-19717) was around 150,000.
I thought thats what you meant, I was unsure if you meant the city of Newark alone, but you included the other Zips, for all that they should erase some districts & combine them up so the cities would be bigger, why doesnt Delaware want big population cities?I think you misread what I said. All of the "Wilmington" ZIP codes (including ones like 19808, which doesn't enter the city limits) added up to around 216,000. All of the "Newark" ZIP codes (including 19702, which I don't think enters the city limits) added up to 150,000 or so.Hold on, Newark has more population then Wilmington? Or were you counting all the newark zip codes together?That's a shame because if the Wilmington City limits were to be the whole top of Delaware down to Kirkwood Hwy as the stopping point, the population of Wilmington would be 200,000+ right?About 2 years ago I pulled Census data to see what Wilmington's population would be if all of its ZIP codes (19801-19810) were part of the city limits and I think it came to 216,000. On that note, I think Newark (19702, 19711-19717) was around 150,000.
The best source for old plans may actually be at the University of Delaware Library. Colleges, Universities and State Libraries are typical locations where plans of old wound up.
Draft EIS, 1970
DE-4, Newark Beltway, Ogletown to New London Road, New Castle County
https://tinyurl.com/y88qv3pm
Project about 7.7 miles long, a divided multi-lane arterial. Page down and you can see a map of the alternatives.
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I don't see the DE 141 extension yet, but I will note that I saw the viaduct under construction in 1976 and the scale and size and straightness looked like it would be part of a major freeway (and I later noticed that it never did).
Alex you know im down to the bone interested, so thats 1 vote for yay.The best source for old plans may actually be at the University of Delaware Library. Colleges, Universities and State Libraries are typical locations where plans of old wound up.
The Hugh Morris Library at UDel is where Cary Todd and I found the document on the Newark Beltway way back in 1993. What I presented on AARoads, some of which dates back to the old Geocities days, was from my recollection of us going through them.
Draft EIS, 1970
DE-4, Newark Beltway, Ogletown to New London Road, New Castle County
https://tinyurl.com/y88qv3pm
Project about 7.7 miles long, a divided multi-lane arterial. Page down and you can see a map of the alternatives.
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I don't see the DE 141 extension yet, but I will note that I saw the viaduct under construction in 1976 and the scale and size and straightness looked like it would be part of a major freeway (and I later noticed that it never did).
I scanned several News Journal articles I saved from the early 1990s about completing the Delaware 141 freeway back in 2005. IIRC I posted a 1994 article that included graphics for all the projects envisioned for finishing Delaware 141 to Steve Anderson's phillyroads FB group several years back. I can dig that out and post it here at some point if there is interest.
Alex you know im down to the bone interested, so thats 1 vote for yay.The best source for old plans may actually be at the University of Delaware Library. Colleges, Universities and State Libraries are typical locations where plans of old wound up.
The Hugh Morris Library at UDel is where Cary Todd and I found the document on the Newark Beltway way back in 1993. What I presented on AARoads, some of which dates back to the old Geocities days, was from my recollection of us going through them.
Draft EIS, 1970
DE-4, Newark Beltway, Ogletown to New London Road, New Castle County
https://tinyurl.com/y88qv3pm
Project about 7.7 miles long, a divided multi-lane arterial. Page down and you can see a map of the alternatives.
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I don't see the DE 141 extension yet, but I will note that I saw the viaduct under construction in 1976 and the scale and size and straightness looked like it would be part of a major freeway (and I later noticed that it never did).
I scanned several News Journal articles I saved from the early 1990s about completing the Delaware 141 freeway back in 2005. IIRC I posted a 1994 article that included graphics for all the projects envisioned for finishing Delaware 141 to Steve Anderson's phillyroads FB group several years back. I can dig that out and post it here at some point if there is interest.
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Alex you know im down to the bone interested, so thats 1 vote for yay.Here's another yes vote. Let's see it. I've driven the 141 freeway many times.
Uploaded the scans to the gallery section of the forum. Turns out the article was not from 1994, but instead was published on November 29, 1992.So basically Deldot plans for the future, but Residents are not satisfied with the plans (or any plans). Did dupont & the other business ever expand? Or did they cancel their plans because the highway wasn’t built. Its a shame that Deldot planned all our roads to handle capacity till 2030, but plans were shot down because, residents sight of view changed or maybe some people are scared of highways. Now look, Delaware is lacking in road infrastructure & connections & that causes people to think twice about living or working in De. IMHO. Thanks Nimbys. You live in the strip of houses on porter road or Red lion & you control all the say in the whole New Castle. What a corrupt county.
It outlined a pretty optimistic time table for completing SR 141... Besides the grade separation at Rockland Road, none of this moved forward.
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Apparently you are completely unaware of all the road projects throughout the nation that were cancelled or changed due to community opposition. I'm not sure how the lack of a 141 as proposed by Deldot results in a corrupt county.141 is just one project J & N, you should know New Castle is famous for corruption, For a state in a Major area in the northeast, why are major projects always shot down by people who only go outside to buy groceries & go home, No disrespect intended, but the past generation of “important people” didn’t do their job. I understand projects were scaled down after the 70’s & up.
So basically Deldot plans for the future, but Residents are not satisfied with the plans (or any plans). Did dupont & the other business ever expand? Or did they cancel their plans because the highway wasn’t built. Its a shame that Deldot planned all our roads to handle capacity till 2030, but plans were shot down because, residents sight of view changed or maybe some people are scared of highways. Now look, Delaware is lacking in road infrastructure & connections & that causes people to think twice about living or working in De. IMHO. Thanks Nimbys. You live in the strip of houses on porter road or Red lion & you control all the say in the whole New Castle. What a corrupt county.You know Delaware is booming fairly rapidly in population, right? Every other commercial on TV in the Dover/Salisbury market is for home builders (primarily in Sussex).
And I see the Boom going on down state, and it’s great, Im happy they are building homes down there, but up here in New Castle , this area needs help, The city of Wilmington is the top of the Iceberg with plans shot down & projects failing, now some plans might have been bad & some good, Ill give you that. But look at Delawares location IMO situated between 3 major cities Baltimore, Philly and New York, You would think planners & developers would think a little more creatively, using models from Bigger cities to atleast become a moderate sized city with options for everyone & everything, I get upset when I drive to philly and see how great everything looks, but you drive to Delaware & thats a 35 minute trip ( with no traffic) & you wonder what the fuck happened.So basically Deldot plans for the future, but Residents are not satisfied with the plans (or any plans). Did dupont & the other business ever expand? Or did they cancel their plans because the highway wasn’t built. Its a shame that Deldot planned all our roads to handle capacity till 2030, but plans were shot down because, residents sight of view changed or maybe some people are scared of highways. Now look, Delaware is lacking in road infrastructure & connections & that causes people to think twice about living or working in De. IMHO. Thanks Nimbys. You live in the strip of houses on porter road or Red lion & you control all the say in the whole New Castle. What a corrupt county.You know Delaware is booming fairly rapidly in population, right? Every other commercial on TV in the Dover/Salisbury market is for home builders (primarily in Sussex).
To use a New Castle reference, Middletown's population was 6,000 in 2000 and is now 21,000. They're building everywhere in this state.
Good luck fixing those problems. You're gonna need it!Thank you, Its a long road of potholes.
I get upset when I drive to philly and see how great everything looks, but you drive to Delaware & thats a 35 minute trip ( with no traffic) & you wonder what the fuck happened.
Newark could have been a even better city with the UD Campus, some of you know the rant I threw about the Newark beltway.
I get upset when I drive to philly and see how great everything looks, but you drive to Delaware & thats a 35 minute trip ( with no traffic) & you wonder what the fuck happened.
...are we living in the same universe?
The trip to and through Philly is a traffic choked slog along a woefully overcapacity and under-maintained stretch of I-95. Meanwhile, headed southbound, the instant you cross into Delaware quality and north / south capacity increases greatly.Newark could have been a even better city with the UD Campus, some of you know the rant I threw about the Newark beltway.
The complaints you've been lobbing out about Delaware's roadway systems have largely either been hugely exaggerated or make no sense at all. I really don't think you understand how public opinion or public policy works, or how history unfolded that led to where we are today. Yes these cancelled projects would've been cool to see come to fruition, and yes they could've solved a few traffic problems, but practically every post of yours is complaining about how no one in Delaware decided to overbuild the heck out of our infrastructure to support the major metropolis you want plopped on top of Newark. Nobody wants Newark to be a gigantic metropolitan area except you, certainly not the people who live here, and not supporting these cancelled roadway plans in no way shape or form correlates with corruption. Bigger is not necessarily better when it comes to cities, and nobody in their right mind is going to set out to just plop a gigantic city on top of a college town where's there's no demand for such a thing.
Please just take a moment and come back to reality before you post, because this is getting kinda old.
As unexciting as Dover (a city of similar size to Newark in Delaware) may be, I am glad that it is fairly small and not terribly congested. I get overwhelmed by the crowds, rush, and massive infrastructure fairly easily, so I enjoy the quieter and slower pace of life. Not everybody wants to live in a big city.Newark could have been a even better city with the UD Campus, some of you know the rant I threw about the Newark beltway.
The complaints you've been lobbing out about Delaware's roadway systems have largely either been hugely exaggerated or make no sense at all. I really don't think you understand how public opinion or public policy works, or how history unfolded that led to where we are today. Yes these cancelled projects would've been cool to see come to fruition, and yes they could've solved a few traffic problems, but practically every post of yours is complaining about how no one in Delaware decided to overbuild the heck out of our infrastructure to support the major metropolis you want plopped on top of Newark. Nobody wants Newark to be a gigantic metropolitan area except you, certainly not the people who live here, and not supporting these cancelled roadway plans in no way shape or form correlates with corruption. Bigger is not necessarily better when it comes to cities, and nobody in their right mind is going to set out to just plop a gigantic city on top of a college town where's there's no demand for such a thing.
Please just take a moment and come back to reality before you post, because this is getting kinda old.
And you must not know the area I live in like I do. I talk to people & see what goes on around me, I didn’t blame canceled projects for corruption, I said only a certain group of people control the say in Delaware & thats corruption.I served on a transportation committee in Newark for 8 months and now work for the state in a transportation office. I have seen the process firsthand.
I served on a transportation committee in Newark for 8 months and now work for the state in a transportation office. I have seen the process firsthand.
I said without traffic, did you read my paragraph right?
I didn’t say anything about a big major city in Newark.
And you must not know the area I live in like I do.
Uploaded the scans to the gallery section of the forum. Turns out the article was not from 1994, but instead was published on November 29, 1992.
It outlined a pretty optimistic time table for completing SR 141... Besides the grade separation at Rockland Road, none of this moved forward.
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That's really what I enjoy about the whole field of transportation and the field of planning. It's the challenge of satisfying as many people as possible and reducing the dissatisfaction of others (that seemed redundant), it's seeing the odd compromises that were made to ensure that at least something was built.I served on a transportation committee in Newark for 8 months and now work for the state in a transportation office. I have seen the process firsthand.
Attending numerous public meetings, I've learned to be creative in my recommendations, especially in towns where I don't live. People don't like congestion; they don't like having their front yard taken for a road expansion even more. Nearly everyone speeds; but nearly everyone wants everyone else to slow down. When I'm looking at plans for a project, I'm listening to those around me as much as I'm looking at the proposals. Also, the consultants and engineers at these meetings often have little to say, and I've found that some employees at a meeting are basically low-level newbies that may not even be familiar with the project.
Depending on the history of these projects, a large scale expansion may have been whittled down to intersection improvements. I know little ole' me won't succeed in telling them they have to do the expansion, but talk to the right people and suggesting longer turn lanes or right-green arrows on a cross street left arrow may get serious consideration.
Anyway, we're dragging out this issue way too long, I feel.
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That post makes little sense either way you read it.I didn’t say anything about a big major city in Newark.
Okay, New Castle County in general. The point remains that if people here wanted to live in a gigantic city or viewed a gigantic city as preferable to the general suburban nature of the county, they'd move to an actual city or there'd be a bigger drive to start plopping skyscrapers and high rises everywhere. But there isn't, in fact it's the opposite.And you must not know the area I live in like I do.
I do, and I can say with absolute certainty that you aren't in touch with reality. The northern end of the county is largely built out and people are largely content with the density. Efforts to redevelop the remaining open space gets met with stiff resistance from the surrounding areas regularly, people don't want more density here and people certainly don't want their homes taken by the construction of new highway facilities that will likely increase the population density. Obviously there's support for spot improvements in troublesome areas on existing corridors, or maybe the occasional new roadway connection to fill a gap in the system (the Churchman's Road extension to SR 2 near Delaware Park comes to mind, that still shows up on WILMAPCO's aspirations projects lists), but things like the Newark Beltway, or the SR 141 upgrades, or the fictional light rail system failed to come to fruition (or were never even considered) because people don't want to be pushed out of the way to build these things or they don't want the character of the area to radically change.
Building a new highway is not as easy as you make it sound, and neither is building a comprehensive light rail system.
You've been acting as though the traffic issues here are as bad those in New York City or in Los Angeles, which just simply isn't true. Opposition to highway projects does not equate to corruption, New Castle County is most certainly not well-known for corruption like you say it is.
Fun Fact: I lived in Cavalier Apartments for a while during my college years. Cavalier is the apartment complex you see off Interchange 4 of I-95, with the "If you lived here you'll be home now" sign. I lived on Capano Drive. The elder Capano was a developer as well, and simply named the main street for the Apartment Complex after himself!
This was during the time he was accused of dumping Anne Marie Fahey's body into the ocean, stuffed into a cooler.
I guess crime runs in the family!
Fun Fact: I lived in Cavalier Apartments for a while during my college years. Cavalier is the apartment complex you see off Interchange 4 of I-95, with the "If you lived here you'll be home now" sign. I lived on Capano Drive. The elder Capano was a developer as well, and simply named the main street for the Apartment Complex after himself!
This was during the time he was accused of dumping Anne Marie Fahey's body into the ocean, stuffed into a cooler.
I guess crime runs in the family!
Power hungry with no limits, these people control Delaware like a snake, did the property have high rent back in the day too? & did you go to UD jeff?
I was shocked when I read this & learned what they are about. Ive heard from other “real estate” people, that Pettinaro is no better.
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Hold on $700 for 2 bed 2 bath? Studio bedrooms are now $700+. You know how much you gotta pay for a 2 Bed 2 Bath in Delaware now? $1200+. Was the golf course built yet & busy or no? I believe the apartment complex still has the charm of a nice area since its close to the mall & not easy to get to. Wait you said the rent was was higher then other complexes, what year was this? I was really born in the wrong time.Fun Fact: I lived in Cavalier Apartments for a while during my college years. Cavalier is the apartment complex you see off Interchange 4 of I-95, with the "If you lived here you'll be home now" sign. I lived on Capano Drive. The elder Capano was a developer as well, and simply named the main street for the Apartment Complex after himself!
This was during the time he was accused of dumping Anne Marie Fahey's body into the ocean, stuffed into a cooler.
I guess crime runs in the family!
Power hungry with no limits, these people control Delaware like a snake, did the property have high rent back in the day too? & did you go to UD jeff?
I was shocked when I read this & learned what they are about. Ive heard from other “real estate” people, that Pettinaro is no better.
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I went to Goldey Beacom.
The rent was higher than other apartment complexes, at least at the time (may still be true). I think we paid $700 for a 2 bed 2 bath about 20+ years ago. But the neighborhood was pretty nice for an apartment complex. We were also the first complex as you entered. There were 3 buildings around the parking lot, not 4 like on other areas of the complex, and thus the parking lot was never filled. I guess that was to "show" the complex to potential tenants in a positive light.
Hold on $700 for 2 bed 2 bath? Studio bedrooms are now $700+. You know how much you gotta pay for a 2 Bed 2 Bath in Delaware now? $1200+. Was the golf course built yet & busy or no? I believe the apartment complex still has the charm of a nice area since its close to the mall & not easy to get to. Wait you said the rent was was higher then other complexes, what year was this? I was really born in the wrong time.Fun Fact: I lived in Cavalier Apartments for a while during my college years. Cavalier is the apartment complex you see off Interchange 4 of I-95, with the "If you lived here you'll be home now" sign. I lived on Capano Drive. The elder Capano was a developer as well, and simply named the main street for the Apartment Complex after himself!
This was during the time he was accused of dumping Anne Marie Fahey's body into the ocean, stuffed into a cooler.
I guess crime runs in the family!
Power hungry with no limits, these people control Delaware like a snake, did the property have high rent back in the day too? & did you go to UD jeff?
I was shocked when I read this & learned what they are about. Ive heard from other “real estate” people, that Pettinaro is no better.
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I went to Goldey Beacom.
The rent was higher than other apartment complexes, at least at the time (may still be true). I think we paid $700 for a 2 bed 2 bath about 20+ years ago. But the neighborhood was pretty nice for an apartment complex. We were also the first complex as you entered. There were 3 buildings around the parking lot, not 4 like on other areas of the complex, and thus the parking lot was never filled. I guess that was to "show" the complex to potential tenants in a positive light.
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Boston also has the oldest subway in the U.S., so they started the bandwagon.And some of those subways took over the trolley lines.
From reading reports , there used to be Trains that went all the way to the bottom of Delaware, but they removed the tracks. The best option would be a commuter system like you said that goes from wilmington newark & Dover.Boston also has the oldest subway in the U.S., so they started the bandwagon.And some of those subways took over the trolley lines.
I was going to ask if a Wilmington-Newark or Wilmington-Dover light rail line would be more suitable, but now that I think about it, either one of these would be better for a commuter rail system more than light rail.
SEPTA already runs (albeit extremely limited) service between Wilmington and Newark, with tracks specifically for the local SEPTA trains separated from the intercity Amtrak trains, so the infrastructure is there.Boston also has the oldest subway in the U.S., so they started the bandwagon.And some of those subways took over the trolley lines.
I was going to ask if a Wilmington-Newark or Wilmington-Dover light rail line would be more suitable, but now that I think about it, either one of these would be better for a commuter rail system more than light rail.
Oh, yes. I forgot it went that far. And I should've known better with all my Wikipedia work, not to mention the work I've wanted to do there.SEPTA already runs (albeit extremely limited) service between Wilmington and Newark, with tracks specifically for the local SEPTA trains separated from the intercity Amtrak trains, so the infrastructure is there.Boston also has the oldest subway in the U.S., so they started the bandwagon.And some of those subways took over the trolley lines.
I was going to ask if a Wilmington-Newark or Wilmington-Dover light rail line would be more suitable, but now that I think about it, either one of these would be better for a commuter rail system more than light rail.
^ The signal at 16? Or has that also been replaced?1 at 16 still has a signal. That's the only one on DE-1 north of Lewes (after the new Bowers Beach Road overpass opens).
Looks like that Bowers Beach overpass has opened.I'll have to check it out. I could go out now (it's less than 15 minutes from me), but I'm too lazy. :biggrin:
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicTrafficIncidentDisplay&id=103072
http://www.wboc.com/story/40066925/little-heaven-intersection-on-route-1-makes-kent-county-travel-easier
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Looks like that Bowers Beach overpass has opened.I'll have to check it out. I could go out now (it's less than 15 minutes from me), but I'm too lazy. :biggrin:
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicTrafficIncidentDisplay&id=103072
http://www.wboc.com/story/40066925/little-heaven-intersection-on-route-1-makes-kent-county-travel-easier
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They uncovered the Exit 88 sign as of yesterday evening, but northbound, "Magnolia" is still covered (photos from yesterday evening, in the first photo, in the distance you can see the new overpass open). Clapham Road from the DE-1 SB ramp to the entrance to DE-1 is still one way southbound.Looks like that Bowers Beach overpass has opened.I'll have to check it out. I could go out now (it's less than 15 minutes from me), but I'm too lazy. :biggrin:
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicTrafficIncidentDisplay&id=103072
http://www.wboc.com/story/40066925/little-heaven-intersection-on-route-1-makes-kent-county-travel-easier
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Finally got to look at the overpass on DelDOT's webcams and yep, the bridge is open.
https://delawarestatenews.net/news/del-1-overpass-at-bowers-beach-road-opens/
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Construction on phase whatever had begun on De 141 to Expand the bridge that crosses SB I-95, they have put up construction barriers & started cutting down the trees around the overpass.
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I noticed that aswell, sometimes I look on the site to check if any projects have been updated. Hopefully they fix it & its not a permanent thing.Construction on phase whatever had begun on De 141 to Expand the bridge that crosses SB I-95, they have put up construction barriers & started cutting down the trees around the overpass.
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I was going to check out the project to figure out what this next phase is going to entail because I couldn't remember off the top of my head, but it seems DelDOT completely disabled their old project listing page in favor of the new page... which contains next to no actual detailed information or maps for any upcoming projects.
This is all the information you can get from their website now:
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Construction on phase whatever had begun on De 141 to Expand the bridge that crosses SB I-95, they have put up construction barriers & started cutting down the trees around the overpass.
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I was going to check out the project to figure out what this next phase is going to entail because I couldn't remember off the top of my head, but it seems DelDOT completely disabled their old project listing page in favor of the new page... which contains next to no actual detailed information or maps for any upcoming projects...
It might be time to say goodbye to DE Route 34, DelDOT looks poised to remove signage for it by this summer:What's the last time they decommissioned an active (not Alt) route?
https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf (https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf)
It might be time to say goodbye to DE Route 34, DelDOT looks poised to remove signage for it by this summer:What's the last time they decommissioned an active (not Alt) route?
https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf (https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf)
DE 30 is the only time a road was outright decommissioned instead of renumbered. I really thought there was more precedent than that.It might be time to say goodbye to DE Route 34, DelDOT looks poised to remove signage for it by this summer:What's the last time they decommissioned an active (not Alt) route?
https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf (https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf)
That honor belongs to DE Route 28, decommissioned in 1974 and replaced with US Route 9.
Prior to that:
- DE Route 32 was replaced by DE Route 54 in 1969 after having only lasted a year, as DE and MD decided to sign a consistent number for the road straddling the state line.
- DE Route 4 was replaced by DE Route 299 in 1957 then resigned 10 years later on its current alignment.
- DE Route 30 was decommissioned in 1938 along Atlanta and Dublin Hill Roads north of Seaford and immediately recommissioned along a portion of its current alignment north of Millsboro.
- DE Route 22 was decommissioned in 1938 having been replaced by DE Route 5 from Milton to Long Neck, and eventually DE Route 23 on the rest of the Long Neck portion.
- DE Route 796 (cited by Alex on AAR's state route log) may have been part of what became DE Route 896 north of Newark, I remember somebody posting a picture of an old DE Route 796 rectangular shield, though I can't seem to find any sources that back up the route's existence.
TLDR: Delaware doesn't do a lot of decommissioning and when they do there's a decent chance the number will end up getting reused.
As did I. I didn't actually know about DE 30's prior alignment prior to researching this, it seems like a strange route to commission though I suppose that's why it didn't end up lasting in that condition for very long.DE 30 is the only time a road was outright decommissioned instead of renumbered. I really thought there was more precedent than that.It might be time to say goodbye to DE Route 34, DelDOT looks poised to remove signage for it by this summer:What's the last time they decommissioned an active (not Alt) route?
https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf (https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf)
That honor belongs to DE Route 28, decommissioned in 1974 and replaced with US Route 9.
Prior to that:
- DE Route 32 was replaced by DE Route 54 in 1969 after having only lasted a year, as DE and MD decided to sign a consistent number for the road straddling the state line.
- DE Route 4 was replaced by DE Route 299 in 1957 then resigned 10 years later on its current alignment.
- DE Route 30 was decommissioned in 1938 along Atlanta and Dublin Hill Roads north of Seaford and immediately recommissioned along a portion of its current alignment north of Millsboro.
- DE Route 22 was decommissioned in 1938 having been replaced by DE Route 5 from Milton to Long Neck, and eventually DE Route 23 on the rest of the Long Neck portion.
- DE Route 796 (cited by Alex on AAR's state route log) may have been part of what became DE Route 896 north of Newark, I remember somebody posting a picture of an old DE Route 796 rectangular shield, though I can't seem to find any sources that back up the route's existence.
TLDR: Delaware doesn't do a lot of decommissioning and when they do there's a decent chance the number will end up getting reused.
- DE Route 4 was replaced by DE Route 299 in 1957 then resigned 10 years later on its current alignment.
I think you're misreading - one and the same
- DE Route 4 was replaced by DE Route 299 in 1957 then resigned 10 years later on its current alignment.
Where did the pre-1957 DE 4 run? And what was the current DE 299 before it became DE 299?
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Nice. Now they need to convert the rest of the highway from Little Heaven to Dover into limited-access freeway to create one continuous system.They uncovered the Exit 88 sign as of yesterday evening, but northbound, "Magnolia" is still covered (photos from yesterday evening, in the first photo, in the distance you can see the new overpass open). Clapham Road from the DE-1 SB ramp to the entrance to DE-1 is still one way southbound.Looks like that Bowers Beach overpass has opened.I'll have to check it out. I could go out now (it's less than 15 minutes from me), but I'm too lazy. :biggrin:
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicTrafficIncidentDisplay&id=103072
http://www.wboc.com/story/40066925/little-heaven-intersection-on-route-1-makes-kent-county-travel-easier
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Finally got to look at the overpass on DelDOT's webcams and yep, the bridge is open.
https://delawarestatenews.net/news/del-1-overpass-at-bowers-beach-road-opens/
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(https://i.ibb.co/nf5mNz1/IMG-4642.jpg) (https://ibb.co/J2Mtw5p)
Also, Exit 86 (DE-12, North Frederica) is now a southbound exit only.
(https://i.ibb.co/QXtNQn0/IMG-4644.jpg) (https://ibb.co/stzwRQ7)
Nice. Now they need to convert the rest of the highway from Little Heaven to Dover into limited-access freeway to create one continuous system.
I agree the choke points should be the first priority. As those are completed, linking the pieces in between should be the next goal, with frontage roads, rural interchanges, etc. They'd discuss in the past shifting a freeway down the US-113 corridor heading to Salisbury, Maryland, which wouldn't be a bad idea for a US-13 build-out, along with DE-1. US 13 through Maryland is fully limited-access (with at-grade intersections) and could easily be upgraded as well. Then there's Virginia... (four-lane, non-limited-access, traffic lights scattered everywhere, narrow footprint, NIMBY heavy)Nice. Now they need to convert the rest of the highway from Little Heaven to Dover into limited-access freeway to create one continuous system.
That wouldn't be too difficult, there's all of one driveway, a couple of farm access points, and a sub-standard exit to contend with along that portion. I don't see anything like that happening anytime soon though. DelDOT seems more interested in simply getting the traffic moving through the choke points along DE 1 rather than a complete limited access rebuild, which I'll happily settle for as the former still gets rid of most of the headaches.
US 13 through Maryland is fully limited-access (with at-grade intersections) and could easily be upgraded as well.
Nice. Now they need to convert the rest of the highway from Little Heaven to Dover into limited-access freeway to create one continuous system.
That wouldn't be too difficult, there's all of one driveway, a couple of farm access points, and a sub-standard exit to contend with along that portion. I don't see anything like that happening anytime soon though. DelDOT seems more interested in simply getting the traffic moving through the choke points along DE 1 rather than a complete limited access rebuild, which I'll happily settle for as the former still gets rid of most of the headaches.
US-13 between Pocomoke City and Salisbury has no private driveway access directly to US-13. There are numerous frontage roads which serve these properties, though again, not connecting directly to the main highway. Only public road access is permitted. (I.E. limited-access, at-grade) There's a few exceptions, but besides those, the rest follows that standard.US 13 through Maryland is fully limited-access (with at-grade intersections) and could easily be upgraded as well.
The Salisbury Bypass is limited access, but I am not sure what other parts are, maybe none. I just took a "ride" on GMSV, and there are driveways and minor intersections all along the rest of the route, and plenty of major intersections, and no interchanges.
I went to Salisbury this morning, US-13 between Salisbury and Delmar is not limited access: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.4180595,-75.565429,3a,75y,3.59h,85.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sH0WH5SdUiHl8PbiF8gjzgA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656US-13 between Pocomoke City and Salisbury has no private driveway access directly to US-13. There are numerous frontage roads which serve these properties, though again, not connecting directly to the main highway. Only public road access is permitted. (I.E. limited-access, at-grade) There's a few exceptions, but besides those, the rest follows that standard.US 13 through Maryland is fully limited-access (with at-grade intersections) and could easily be upgraded as well.
The Salisbury Bypass is limited access, but I am not sure what other parts are, maybe none. I just took a "ride" on GMSV, and there are driveways and minor intersections all along the rest of the route, and plenty of major intersections, and no interchanges.
US-13 between Pocomoke City and Virginia however (4 miles) is non-limited-access with numerous connections, etc. The same applies to all of US-13 in Virginia.
Now, yes, the Salisbury Bypass is a limited-access freeway, but the rest is limited-access, at-grade.
A limited-access, at-grade roadway can have public roadway intersections, but prohibits private access.
Nice. Now they need to convert the rest of the highway from Little Heaven to Dover into limited-access freeway to create one continuous system.
That wouldn't be too difficult, there's all of one driveway, a couple of farm access points, and a sub-standard exit to contend with along that portion. I don't see anything like that happening anytime soon though. DelDOT seems more interested in simply getting the traffic moving through the choke points along DE 1 rather than a complete limited access rebuild, which I'll happily settle for as the former still gets rid of most of the headaches.
The issue is how many tens of millions will they need to spend to build roads to remove a few driveways from the highway?
Now, yes, the Salisbury Bypass is a limited-access freeway, but the rest is limited-access, at-grade.I went to Salisbury this morning, US-13 between Salisbury and Delmar is not limited access:
I went to Salisbury this morning, US-13 between Salisbury and Delmar is not limited access: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.4180595,-75.565429,3a,75y,3.59h,85.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sH0WH5SdUiHl8PbiF8gjzgA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
US-13 between Pocomoke City and the state line is nonlimited-access with numerous driveways and field entrances.I clearly stated between Pocomoke City and Salisbury, I didn't say anywhere else.
Whether or not the other at-grade sections are limited access, I would have to go look at the highway and see and make a determination.Hard to say if it's officially declared "limited-access" right of way, though almost all of the driveway connections are handled by frontage roads which connect to the highway. There's very few direct connections however. That would make it a lot easier if upgraded to freeway standards then having numerous connecting driveway directly to US-13. The frontage roads are already there for you.
US-113 is setup as the limited access bypass of US-13 in MD. Delaware is trying to upgrade their segment (the proposed Millsboro and Milford bypasses) with limited success. Literature from the CBBT recommends US-113 as it has less traffic lights.Certainly not limited-access as there are numerous driveway connections, however it's a nicer alternative with few lights, and more scenic IMHO (forested areas, divided highway, etc) I do agree. Most of it is four-lane, and the rest is either under construction to 4-lanes or programmed in the near future for 4-lanes I believe.
If a DE-1 superhighway concept were extended as a toll road to Salisbury from Milford on new location, it would likely be built on new location in Maryland as well, seamlessly tying into the Salisbury Bypass. Upgrading the rest south of there is mainly on limited-access roadway, and the connection to Virginia is debatable on what even happens in Virginia. If it's a new location in Virginia, then it would likely be new location for those 4 miles in Maryland as well.
Obviously all of this talk for a full freeway build out is fictional, since the I-99 proposal a decade ago, it's not been discussed heavily. Delaware mentioned in the I-99 "study" they have considered constructing a parallel freeway to US 113 like they've done with US 13 in the 80s and 90s with the DE 1 superhighway. Since Delaware is interested more with US 113, and Maryland is more interested in US 13, IMHO the best option would be to build a seamless connection between the two. Basically, upgrade 6 miles of DE-1 south of Dover to freeway standards (no tolling), then at Milford, construct 42 miles of limited-access toll freeway from Milford to Salisbury, seamlessly tying into the Salisbury Bypass about half way between the US 50 eastern exit, and the US 13 northern exit, and upgrade the rest of existing US 13 down to Pocomoke City. If Virginia were to do a similar concept stretching down to the CBBT, it would likely involve an additional 66 miles of toll freeway paralleling existing US 13, tying into the existing limited-access US 13 north of the CBBT, then upgrading it to the CBBT. On the southside, Northampton Blvd is limited-access to Diamond Springs Road, and from there to I-64, that's where it gets messy.If a DE-1 superhighway concept were extended as a toll road to Salisbury from Milford on new location, it would likely be built on new location in Maryland as well, seamlessly tying into the Salisbury Bypass. Upgrading the rest south of there is mainly on limited-access roadway, and the connection to Virginia is debatable on what even happens in Virginia. If it's a new location in Virginia, then it would likely be new location for those 4 miles in Maryland as well.
Regardless of how well built US-13 is in Maryland, Delaware has always been the obstacle. Little if any of US-13 south of Dover would be useable for a freeway upgrade, probably all of it would need to be bypassed by a new location highway. Much the same for US-113 south of Milford.
Delaware's priorities for corridor preservation have been 1) DE-1 south of DAFB to beaches, 2) US-113 south of Milford, and 3) US-13 south of Dover. US-13 is at the bottom of the barrel. Also no cross-connection between US-113 and US-13.
Delaware hasn't yet coalesced on over whether to utilize US-13 or US-113 as its future main north-south corridor, and that obviously influences what Maryland can do to coordinate with what Delaware decides sometime in the future.
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So about $6.4 billion to create over 210 miles of freeway from Norfolk to I-95 in Wilmington, DE, which would be backed with tolling.
I wouldn’t count it out so quickly Beltway, the 301 was intalks since the 70’s & it was finally built. This might come in the next 5-10 years, especially the way they are moving with pushing De-1 South & other statements above ^.[ … snip … ]
So about $6.4 billion to create over 210 miles of freeway from Norfolk to I-95 in Wilmington, DE, which would be backed with tolling.
Belongs over in Fictional Highways.
I wouldn’t count it out so quickly Beltway, the 301 was intalks since the 70’s & it was finally built. This might come in the next 5-10 years, especially the way they are moving with pushing De-1 South & other statements above ^.So about $6.4 billion to create over 210 miles of freeway from Norfolk to I-95 in Wilmington, DE, which would be backed with tolling.Belongs over in Fictional Highways.
Yes, and if you look on the projects website, (Atleast the old one) they have U.S. 13 in the works as well, just nothing yet. I would assume this is because of all the missing links in the populated areas, they would finish those first before trying to start a new Highway or bypass correct?I wouldn’t count it out so quickly Beltway, the 301 was intalks since the 70’s & it was finally built. This might come in the next 5-10 years, especially the way they are moving with pushing De-1 South & other statements above ^.So about $6.4 billion to create over 210 miles of freeway from Norfolk to I-95 in Wilmington, DE, which would be backed with tolling.Belongs over in Fictional Highways.
DE US-301 is 12 miles of highway and it addressed a missing link dating at least to 1972 when all of MD US-301 was 4 lanes but Delaware did not have a 4-lane highway between there and US-13.
It was programmed in the STIP. Anything that makes it to a STIP is not fictional. The DE-1 improvements are also programmed in a STIP and they are heading down to the beaches, far from the US-13 corridor.
The DE-1 improvements are also programmed in a STIP and they are heading down to the beaches, far from the US-13 corridor.Yes, and if you look on the projects website, (Atleast the old one) they have U.S. 13 in the works as well, just nothing yet. I would assume this is because of all the missing links in the populated areas, they would finish those first before trying to start a new Highway or bypass correct?
It was in projects. It could be in in there, Ill look around.The DE-1 improvements are also programmed in a STIP and they are heading down to the beaches, far from the US-13 corridor.Yes, and if you look on the projects website, (Atleast the old one) they have U.S. 13 in the works as well, just nothing yet. I would assume this is because of all the missing links in the populated areas, they would finish those first before trying to start a new Highway or bypass correct?
It is in Corridor Preservation and as I said the third priority after DE-1 and US-113. Corridor Preservation as DelDOT defines it could range from access management studies to improve at-grade access and driveway consolidation, up to something much higher such as the interchanges they are building on DE-1.
DelDOT also is studying at least one east-west route, that being Route 404, since Maryland has now 4-laned most of theirs, and Delaware may want to follow suit to help the east-west beach traffic.
So DelDOT already has a full plate in its STIP.
So DelDOT already has a full plate in its STIP.It was in projects. It could be in in there, Ill look around.
Why is it taking so long for them to get stuff done? Does Deldot have a shortage of workers? Do they need to expand in order to get this sh*t done?
I know, those prices are crazy. But it seems like back in the day, they built these roads so fast & now it takes 15 years just to get everyone to agree. Can the people just let certain areas be built to handle the traffic it needs to handle & they can go live in the areas where the highway & big roads that scare them aren’t.So DelDOT already has a full plate in its STIP.It was in projects. It could be in in there, Ill look around.
Why is it taking so long for them to get stuff done? Does Deldot have a shortage of workers? Do they need to expand in order to get this sh*t done?
Highway construction has always been expensive, but especially so in the last 10 to 15 years.
$400 million to build the US-301 tollroad.
$400 million to build the US-301 tollroad.I know, those prices are crazy. But it seems like back in the day, they built these roads so fast & now it takes 15 years just to get everyone to agree. Can the people just let certain areas be built to handle the traffic it needs to handle & they can go live in the areas where the highway & big roads that scare them aren’t.
The same people that complain about roads in Delaware are the same people who want them improved, either get a horse or drive a car, the choice is yours.
Which section? Because I know it was built in different times. You are talking about the portion from Christiana mall to Middletown?$400 million to build the US-301 tollroad.I know, those prices are crazy. But it seems like back in the day, they built these roads so fast & now it takes 15 years just to get everyone to agree. Can the people just let certain areas be built to handle the traffic it needs to handle & they can go live in the areas where the highway & big roads that scare them aren’t.
The same people that complain about roads in Delaware are the same people who want them improved, either get a horse or drive a car, the choice is yours.
The DE-1 "Relief Route" took 15 years to build. Engineering started in 1983, construction in 1988, all completed by 2003. 51 miles of highway at $900 million.
210 miles of freeway from Norfolk to I-95 in Wilmington, DE, is beyond fictional, and I see that there was no mention of the major environmental obstacles that would be encountered.The only real "issues" would be in Virginia, it's a narrow peninsula with not all the room in the world to build. It's likely possible though if an effort was put into doing it. New alignments could hug the old road in many areas, and be an upgrade of the existing road in others. Not the easiest build, but certainly possible. Delaware is studying a limited-access corridor, and Maryland's is already mostly limited-access, at-grade.
It is in Corridor Preservation and as I said the third priority after DE-1 and US-113. Corridor Preservation as DelDOT defines it could range from access management studies to improve at-grade access and driveway consolidation, up to something much higher such as the interchanges they are building on DE-1.https://www.deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T200212701#project-details1
DelDOT also is studying at least one east-west route, that being Route 404, since Maryland has now 4-laned most of theirs, and Delaware may want to follow suit to help the east-west beach traffic.
So DelDOT already has a full plate in its STIP.
Which section? Because I know it was built in different times. You are talking about the portion from Christiana mall to Middletown?https://goo.gl/ABjZEk
900 Million sheesh. How much money would they have saved/made if they would have built the whole highway from top to bottom with tolls ?The southern part is tolled, it costs $2 on weekdays and $6 on weekends to drive the entire corridor. The northern part is a heavy local route as well, therefore there's not tolls around those locations.
I know which sections are tolled, Im saying if the highway were built past where it ends at its new location, to wherever an ending point would be at the bottom of De. Delaware could have made more money because people would take De-1 instead of Us-13 or Us-113.210 miles of freeway from Norfolk to I-95 in Wilmington, DE, is beyond fictional, and I see that there was no mention of the major environmental obstacles that would be encountered.The only real "issues" would be in Virginia, it's a narrow peninsula with not all the room in the world to build. It's likely possible though if an effort was put into doing it. New alignments could hug the old road in many ways, and be an exact upgrade of the existing road in others. Not the easiest build, but certainly possible. Delaware is studying a limited-access corridor, and Maryland's is already mostly limited-access, at-grade.It is in Corridor Preservation and as I said the third priority after DE-1 and US-113. Corridor Preservation as DelDOT defines it could range from access management studies to improve at-grade access and driveway consolidation, up to something much higher such as the interchanges they are building on DE-1.https://www.deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T200212701#project-details1
DelDOT also is studying at least one east-west route, that being Route 404, since Maryland has now 4-laned most of theirs, and Delaware may want to follow suit to help the east-west beach traffic.
So DelDOT already has a full plate in its STIP.
US 113, North / South Improvements
"This project will continue to work on viable alternatives for a limited access highway throughout Sussex County to address existing and future transportation needs along US 113 while preserving environmental and historic resources and accommodating planned economic growth. The expectation is that Ellendale Area will be an Environmental Assessment (EA) project, the Georgetown Area will be an EA project, and the Millsboro through Selbyville Area will be an Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) project. Milford will be an EIS Project as well."
It's on the long range plans, it's not "fictional" anyways throughout Delaware. Sussex County stretches from DE-1 down to Maryland, and includes both the US-13 and US-113 corridor.Which section? Because I know it was built in different times. You are talking about the portion from Christiana mall to Middletown?https://goo.gl/ABjZEk
Interactive maps with different opening dates. Click on each segment to see the date.900 Million sheesh. How much money would they have saved/made if they would have built the whole highway from top to bottom with tolls ?The southern part is tolled, it costs $2 on weekdays and $6 on weekends to drive the entire corridor. The northern part is a heavy local route as well, therefore there's not tolls around those locations.
It would not have saved any money, it still would have cost the same either way.
210 miles of freeway from Norfolk to I-95 in Wilmington, DE, is beyond fictional, and I see that there was no mention of the major environmental obstacles that would be encountered.US 113, North / South Improvements
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It's on the long range plans, it's not "fictional" anyways throughout Delaware.
It's fictional. Take it to Fictional Highways.Not fictional through Delaware. I'll stop discussing Virginia and Maryland if it will make you happy (oh who am I kidding anything I discuss won't make you happy) but I've already proven it's on the long-range plans & has been discussed in Delaware.
US 113, North / South Improvements
"This project will continue to work on viable alternatives for a limited access highway throughout Sussex County to address existing and future transportation needs along US 113 while preserving environmental and historic resources and accommodating planned economic growth. The expectation is that Ellendale Area will be an Environmental Assessment (EA) project, the Georgetown Area will be an EA project, and the Millsboro through Selbyville Area will be an Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) project. Milford will be an EIS Project as well."
It's on the long range plans, it's not "fictional" anyways throughout Delaware. Sussex County stretches from DE-1 down to Maryland, and includes both the US-13 and US-113 corridor.
I know, those prices are crazy. But it seems like back in the day, they built these roads so fast & now it takes 15 years just to get everyone to agree. Can the people just let certain areas be built to handle the traffic it needs to handle & they can go live in the areas where the highway & big roads that scare them aren’t.So DelDOT already has a full plate in its STIP.It was in projects. It could be in in there, Ill look around.
Why is it taking so long for them to get stuff done? Does Deldot have a shortage of workers? Do they need to expand in order to get this sh*t done?
Highway construction has always been expensive, but especially so in the last 10 to 15 years.
$400 million to build the US-301 tollroad.
The same people that complain about roads in Delaware are the same people who want them improved, either get a horse or drive a car, the choice is yours.
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While it seems that way, many plans took years or decades before they became reality. When you look back, especially before you were alive, it appears everything went fast. In reality, projects like a Route 1 moved very slowly. No doubt if you were around in the 1980's you would've question and argued the point of building Rt. 1 from Smyrna to Dover first, rather than from 95 to Smyrna. But today, you look back and act as if it was one quick process in which it was done seamlessly and effortlessly.
And today, we have many more regulations than we did in the past...Which requires a lot more time to complete. You may think that's a bad idea...but then again these are the same regs that make sure you're not inhaling asbestos and lead paint from your walls.
The US 113 project as you understand it is dead in the water for the time beingand is not on long range plans. The information you see on DelDOT's website is extremely out-of-date, and their new project page format eliminated all of the following, more recent information: Milford and Lincoln killed their section off years ago and Millsboro killed off their bypass 4-ish years ago. All that remains are sporadic interchange construction projects in problem areas, a widening project in Millsboro, and a neutered northern bypass of Millsboro for DE Route 24. There are no cohesive long range plans for a freeway facility along the entirety of US 113, let alone even part of it. If something like this were to be resurrected it would take literal decades before construction began unless an inordinate amount of cash from an outside source was siphoned into it.
EDIT: I take back what I said about long range plans, DelDOT still has a line for it in their budget for FY20 - FY25, though they only plan on spending on ROW for the next five years.
DE-1 is clearly high on the list as a vital corridor to Delaware, with the segments south of DAFB to the beaches receiving improvements including new interchanges.I think the highest priority for DE-1 is bringing up to "expressway" standards, a non-limited-access roadway but with no traffic signals to impede traffic flow. That's what all the grade-separation and interchange projects are accomplishing.
Bringing a busy 2-lane corridor up to a 4-lane standard is a much higher priority than addressing US-13 and US-113 which already provide two ample north-south 4-lane corridors in Delaware.Then why were the rural segments of the DE-1 superhighway completed? Between Dover and Smyrna (5 miles), Smyrna to Odessa (10 miles), and Odessa to St. Georges (10 miles), 4-lane rural non-limited-access US 13 existed at mainly 55 MPH. Besides from the town bypasses, one could argue building DE-1 as one continuous freeway wasn't needed, for the same reasons you're arguing a freeway in the US-13 / US-113 corridor is not needed. A lot of traffic signals and towns impede US-13 south of Dover, and some, but less so, for US-113. It's kind of in the same boat US-13 was north of Dover before the superhighway was built. 4-lane rural highway passing thru towns with traffic signals.
The Delmarva is like certain Canadian provinces that utilize 4-lane at-grade highways for the long distance routes. I noticed this back in 1972 when I first started driving there. The strategy has been to build more of those type highways rather than build a central freeway or two.Debatable, but the DE-1 superhighway begs to differ. US-13 between Dover and St. Georges is in the same condition as US-13 is south of Dover. Just with no 65 MPH limited-access freeway paralleling it. If a freeway parallel to US-13 from Dover northward was arguable and justified enough that it was actually constructed, the same could occur south of there in the future for the same reasons.
I mapped out a proposal back then to build a beach freeway between the Bay Bridge and the beaches. Dunno if it ever will come to fruition.An interesting concept. I think the biggest priority should be 4-lane the Ocean City Expressway, then upgrade the limited-access, at-grade roadway to Salisbury. North of there is more of a task.
Bringing a busy 2-lane corridor up to a 4-lane standard is a much higher priority than addressing US-13 and US-113 which already provide two ample north-south 4-lane corridors in Delaware.Then why were the rural segments of the DE-1 superhighway completed? Between Dover and Smyrna (5 miles), Smyrna to Odessa (10 miles), and Odessa to St. Georges (10 miles), 4-lane rural non-limited-access US 13 existed at mainly 55 MPH. Besides from the town bypasses, one could argue building DE-1 as one continuous freeway wasn't needed, for the same reasons you're arguing a freeway in the US-13 / US-113 corridor is not needed. A lot of traffic signals and towns impede US-13 south of Dover, and some, but less so, for US-113. It's kind of in the same boat US-13 was north of Dover before the superhighway was built. 4-lane rural highway passing thru towns with traffic signals.
Did you ever drive it back then? It was overloaded, especially on summer weekends and holidays, the St. Georges Bridge was especially problematic, and the old US-13 Dover Bypass was all developed alongside and had poor traffic handling ability.Building town bypasses up to freeway-standards is one thing. What's happening on DE-1 down to the beaches to convert it into "expressway" with non-limited-access four-lane highway with no signals but rather interchanges is also one thing. Constructing a rural four-lane freeway parallel to a four-lane rural roadway with no traffic signals is different. It allows traffic to flow faster, being 65 MPH over 55 MPH, but when we're talking rural stretches with no signals, it's not much different.
Traffic volumes south of Dover on US-13 were much lower and even today between US-13 and DE-1/US-113 these highways operate well enough.It's certainly growing. US-13 and US-113 have about 30,000 AADT from Dover southwards to Maryland. The signals can cause some recurring congestion as well. Certainly the volumes warrant a freeway build, or at least an expressway build, with no signals. Though a full freeway would be the most ideal, clearly they thought so on the Dover northward portion, instead of freeway bypasses and non-limited-access, expressway in the rural sections.
Did you ever drive it back then? It was overloaded, especially on summer weekends and holidays, the St. Georges Bridge was especially problematic, and the old US-13 Dover Bypass was all developed alongside and had poor traffic handling ability.Building town bypasses up to freeway-standards is one thing. What's happening on DE-1 down to the beaches to convert it into "expressway" with non-limited-access four-lane highway with no signals but rather interchanges is also one thing. Constructing a rural four-lane freeway parallel to a four-lane rural roadway with no traffic signals is different. It allows traffic to flow faster, being 65 MPH over 55 MPH, but when we're talking rural stretches with no signals, it's not much different.
Traffic volumes south of Dover on US-13 were much lower and even today between US-13 and DE-1/US-113 these highways operate well enough.It's certainly growing. US-13 and US-113 have about 30,000 AADT from Dover southwards to Maryland. The signals can cause some recurring congestion as well. Certainly the volumes warrant a freeway build, or at least an expressway build, with no signals. Though a full freeway would be the most ideal, clearly they thought so on the Dover northward portion, instead of freeway bypasses and non-limited-access, expressway in the rural sections.
So what exactly are DelDOT's current plans for north-south highway improvements?
DelDOT also is studying at least one east-west route, that being DE-404, since Maryland has now 4-laned most of theirs, and Delaware wants to follow suit to help the east-west beach traffic. Bringing a busy 2-lane corridor up to a 4-lane standard is a much higher priority than addressing US-13 and US-113 which already provide two ample north-south 4-lane corridors in Delaware.
So what exactly are DelDOT's current plans for north-south highway improvements?At the moment they're at the drawing board figuring that out I suppose. Things aren't too bad now on US 13 and US 113 outside of a few hotspots during beach season, but I know they'd certainly like to get ahead of the curve and get a limited-access highway built before the county fills in with new development and traffic gets irreparably bad.
https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/us113/So what exactly are DelDOT's current plans for north-south highway improvements?At the moment they're at the drawing board figuring that out I suppose. Things aren't too bad now on US 13 and US 113 outside of a few hotspots during beach season, but I know they'd certainly like to get ahead of the curve and get a limited-access highway built before the county fills in with new development and traffic gets irreparably bad.
Looking for actual official studies. Official studies for Dover Extension of the Delaware Turnpike went back to 1971.
US-113 trends down to the upper teens in some places and US-13 trends down to the lower twenties in some places.The long-distance nature of the corridor, and those volumes alone warrant freeway. Back down here in Virginia, you've stated that while I-73 isn't a priority, it should come eventually, and that corridor gets max 13,000 AADT in some locations. You've also supported I-42 in NC, which gets about 20,000 AADT, less in some areas.
Looking for actual official studies. Official studies for Dover Extension of the Delaware Turnpike went back to 1971.https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/us113/
https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/us113/pdf/113-Roll-Map-Preferred.pdf
Currently they're looking to upgrade US 113 between south of Milford to Millsboro (18 miles) to interstate standards. Nothing planned for Milford and Millsboro specifically, due to opposition blocking previous studies & preferred alignments.
Delaware poster is not DelDOT officially, not to mention that at least there is a factual source.Looking for actual official studies. Official studies for Dover Extension of the Delaware Turnpike went back to 1971.https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/us113/ (https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/us113/)
https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/us113/pdf/113-Roll-Map-Preferred.pdf (https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/us113/pdf/113-Roll-Map-Preferred.pdf)
Currently they're looking to upgrade US 113 between south of Milford to Millsboro (18 miles) to interstate standards. Nothing planned for Milford and Millsboro specifically, due to opposition blocking previous studies & preferred alignments.
We were told by a Delaware poster that DelDOT website material for US-113 and US-13 is way out of date and that nearly all proposals have been canceled.
Now it is sad that they would leave obsolete material on their website but they apparently have.
How many projects will Lower Slower Delaware Residents kill off? They do not whatsoever want sprawl to come down there, and I understand. But there comes a time when you need to upgrade for everyone.Looking for actual official studies. Official studies for Dover Extension of the Delaware Turnpike went back to 1971.https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/us113/
https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/us113/pdf/113-Roll-Map-Preferred.pdf
Currently they're looking to upgrade US 113 between south of Milford to Millsboro (18 miles) to interstate standards. Nothing planned for Milford and Millsboro specifically, due to opposition blocking previous studies & preferred alignments.
We were told by a Delaware poster that DelDOT website material for US-113 and US-13 is way out of date and that nearly all proposals have been canceled.
Now it is sad that they would leave obsolete material on their website but they apparently have.
Looking for actual official studies. Official studies for Dover Extension of the Delaware Turnpike went back to 1971.https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/us113/
https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/us113/pdf/113-Roll-Map-Preferred.pdf
Currently they're looking to upgrade US 113 between south of Milford to Millsboro (18 miles) to interstate standards. Nothing planned for Milford and Millsboro specifically, due to opposition blocking previous studies & preferred alignments.
We were told by a Delaware poster that DelDOT website material for US-113 and US-13 is way out of date and that nearly all proposals have been canceled.
Now it is sad that they would leave obsolete material on their website but they apparently have.
The US 113 project as you understand it is dead in the water for the time beingand is not on long range plans. The information you see on DelDOT's website is extremely out-of-date, and their new project page format eliminated all of the following, more recent information: Milford and Lincoln killed their section off years ago and Millsboro killed off their bypass 4-ish years ago. All that remains are sporadic interchange construction projects in problem areas, a widening project in Millsboro, and a neutered northern bypass of Millsboro for DE Route 24. There are no cohesive long range plans for a freeway facility along the entirety of US 113, let alone even part of it. If something like this were to be resurrected it would take literal decades before construction began unless an inordinate amount of cash from an outside source was siphoned into it.
EDIT: I take back what I said about long range plans, DelDOT still has a line for it in their budget for FY20 - FY25, though they only plan on spending on ROW for the next five years. I have no idea what their plan for this is. They've been splitting out individual projects from the North / South Study in the wake of the freeway proposals getting knocked down, so I don't know if they've gone back to the drawing board to try and work on a corridor-wide on-alignment reconstruction or what. They have construction pegged at $180,000,000 for this "project", so something to watch for I guess...?
How many projects will Lower Slower Delaware Residents kill off? They do not whatsoever want sprawl to come down there, and I understand. But there comes a time when you need to upgrade for everyone.It's real bad. They've killed the urban bypasses of a US-113 freeway from Milford to Maryland, leaving only an 18 mile stretch of rural freeway remaining. They complain about traffic, so when DelDOT says hey, we'll construct a US-113 freeway to get rid of the problems, they cry and complain. Even better, so when DelDOT proposes urban solutions (which aren't really a true fix, that's what a bypass is for), they still complain, no it removes access to my business, etc. They want their problems fixed, but when people try to fix them, they don't like it. DelDOT needs to just move forward and build the bypasses, and it will end up being for the better in the end despite initial opposition.
This is what Im talking about when I say only certain “Parties” control what goes on. These projects are supposed to move long commuting traffic & short commuting traffic. But these people dont want a highway anywhere near their towns-NOT EVEN A BYPASS?! I think congress of Delaware would have to sign a bill in order to get a full De-1 all the way through the state at this rate. Its not fair for everyone & then they complain about beach traffic. Its a shame what we have to do to get things done.
This is why Delaware is losing opportunities, because people only think about their selves. Very very selfish.
Looking for actual official studies. Official studies for Dover Extension of the Delaware Turnpike went back to 1971.https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/us113/
https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/us113/pdf/113-Roll-Map-Preferred.pdf
Currently they're looking to upgrade US 113 between south of Milford to Millsboro (18 miles) to interstate standards. Nothing planned for Milford and Millsboro specifically, due to opposition blocking previous studies & preferred alignments.
We were told by a Delaware poster that DelDOT website material for US-113 and US-13 is way out of date and that nearly all proposals have been canceled.
Now it is sad that they would leave obsolete material on their website but they apparently have.
We were told by a Delaware poster that DelDOT website material for US-113 and US-13 is way out of date and that nearly all proposals have been canceled.The links sprjus4 posted are what's more up to date, they were put up on the old project portal within the last year-ish but aren't directly accessible now from the new project portal. The new project portal has a super general description that I'm fairly certain is what they've been using for the project for quite a while now. But of course as Alps said, I'm not DelDOT and they could be completely reworking everything such that a brand new freeway might be on the table within a few years or that the 2017 roll map is all we're getting, who knows.
Now it is sad that they would leave obsolete material on their website but they apparently have.
The intent was to have an entire freeway built on the entire US-113 corridor from Milford to Maryland, however due to community opposition, and really a careless mindset the towns have to enhancing the US-113 corridor, the project has been split into four separate ones to address issues in each locality, and the goal to have a full freeway from Maryland to Milford has decreased slightly, though that 18 mile rural stretch is still being considered.We were told by a Delaware poster that DelDOT website material for US-113 and US-13 is way out of date and that nearly all proposals have been canceled.The links sprjus4 posted are what's more up to date, they were put up on the old project portal within the last year-ish but aren't directly accessible now from the new project portal. The new project portal has a super general description that I'm fairly certain is what they've been using for the project for quite a while now. But of course as Alps said, I'm not DelDOT and they could be completely reworking everything such that a brand new freeway might be on the table within a few years or that the 2017 roll map is all we're getting, who knows.
Now it is sad that they would leave obsolete material on their website but they apparently have.
OK, I can accept those explanations, but I still find the DelDOT links posted to be confusing and not very coherent, and most of them didn't cite any final decision; and why chop US-113 into 5 segments and not have one EIS/location study for the whole corridor?
Like I said, I followed the DE-1 "Relief Route" from its early planning stages and there was always a concise and well-organized project plan for the route. The US-113 material has little in comparison.
We were told by a Delaware poster that DelDOT website material for US-113 and US-13 is way out of date and that nearly all proposals have been canceled.The links sprjus4 posted are what's more up to date, they were put up on the old project portal within the last year-ish but aren't directly accessible now from the new project portal. The new project portal has a super general description that I'm fairly certain is what they've been using for the project for quite a while now. But of course as Alps said, I'm not DelDOT and they could be completely reworking everything such that a brand new freeway might be on the table within a few years or that the 2017 roll map is all we're getting, who knows.
Now it is sad that they would leave obsolete material on their website but they apparently have.
OK, I can accept those explanations, but I still find the DelDOT links posted to be confusing and not very coherent, and most of them didn't cite any final decision; and why chop US-113 into 5 segments and not have one EIS/location study for the whole corridor?
Like I said, I followed the DE-1 "Relief Route" from its early planning stages and there was always a concise and well-organized project plan for the route. The US-113 material has little in comparison.
While this page has a lot of outdated material, it provides a good idea of what the original intents were before the towns and communities decided to block the proposals.
Why does every one of your posts ask a question negating what has been posted previously?While this page has a lot of outdated material, it provides a good idea of what the original intents were before the towns and communities decided to block the proposals.
Then what is the use of discussing it? You might just as well advocate building the Crosstown Expressway in Chicago, or I-70 thru Leakin Park in Baltimore, or a new freeway in North Jersey.
Why does every one of your posts ask a question negating what has been posted previously?While this page has a lot of outdated material, it provides a good idea of what the original intents were before the towns and communities decided to block the proposals.Then what is the use of discussing it? You might just as well advocate building the Crosstown Expressway in Chicago, or I-70 thru Leakin Park in Baltimore, or a new freeway in North Jersey.
The intent was to have an entire freeway built on the entire US-113 corridor from Milford to Maryland, however due to community opposition, and really a careless mindset the towns have to enhancing the US-113 corridor, the project has been split into four separate ones to address issues in each locality, and the goal to have a full freeway from Maryland to Milford has decreased slightly, though that 18 mile rural stretch is still being considered.We were told by a Delaware poster that DelDOT website material for US-113 and US-13 is way out of date and that nearly all proposals have been canceled.The links sprjus4 posted are what's more up to date, they were put up on the old project portal within the last year-ish but aren't directly accessible now from the new project portal. The new project portal has a super general description that I'm fairly certain is what they've been using for the project for quite a while now. But of course as Alps said, I'm not DelDOT and they could be completely reworking everything such that a brand new freeway might be on the table within a few years or that the 2017 roll map is all we're getting, who knows.
Now it is sad that they would leave obsolete material on their website but they apparently have.
OK, I can accept those explanations, but I still find the DelDOT links posted to be confusing and not very coherent, and most of them didn't cite any final decision; and why chop US-113 into 5 segments and not have one EIS/location study for the whole corridor?
Like I said, I followed the DE-1 "Relief Route" from its early planning stages and there was always a concise and well-organized project plan for the route. The US-113 material has little in comparison.
https://www.deldot.gov/information/projects/us113/
While this page has a lot of outdated material, it provides a good idea of what the original intents were before the towns and communities decided to block the proposals.
The older project overview for the study was -
"The overall purpose of the US 113 North/South Study is to identify an alignment for a continuous limited access roadway from the Maryland/Delaware state line north to SR 1 north of the City of Milford, a total distance of approximately 40 miles. When completed, there will be a north-south limited access highway throughout the state of Delaware. The study also identifies improvements to major east/west routes."
It also indicates that this would be a long-range proposal, so it could still indeed be on the long-term plan for the next 10 - 20 years. There's no updated information on that however.
"The short-term purpose of this project is to identify, select, and protect an alignment for a limited access US 113 highway through Sussex County. While the road will not be built at this time, choosing the alignment will enable DelDOT to protect the alignment until both need and available funds dictate the timing of construction. This project will provide a road that serves regional and seasonal traffic to points north and south while addressing future local traffic needs. Separating local from through traffic will help to facilitate the current, planned and projected development in Sussex County and its municipalities."
To answer the last question about the US-13 Relief Route study in the 70s and 80s, the US 113 study originally had a set end-goal, which is a limited-access freeway from Milford to Maryland. The only issue that is because of community opposition, instead of working with the communities and coming up with realignments and different alternatives to best fit their needs and desires like was done with the US 13 Relief Route / DE 1 superhighway, they've decided to just drop freeway plans completely in those areas, while keeping them in the rural areas.
Delaware DOT also has a new page (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T200212701#project-details1|travel-tab2[/url) which appears would re-evaluate this entire corridor once again based on the previous NEPA studies. The page is extremely unclear as to what the scope of this new study / EIS is really out to do. Continue to appeal to the towns with local improvements, or a full-freeway / long-range solution build out like originally intended. It indicates -
"This project will continue to work on viable alternatives for a limited access highway throughout Sussex County to address existing and future transportation needs along US 113 while preserving environmental and historic resources and accommodating planned economic growth."
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the opposition is due to the thinking that 113 is really supposed to be a minor spur route off of US 13, and they do have a point. Why are they not upgrading or paralleling US 13 instead? Did Dover feel that the residents on US 113 are of a lower class, and the pols could get what they wanted blasted thru? What would've worked 40 or 50 years ago isn't going to work today. It also doesn't help that the view is to help get people to/from Maryland, which never usually sits well with your own state's residents. And everyone can see that if you widen this road, now they've opened up the possibility for other roads in their communities for more traffic.
It might be time to say goodbye to DE Route 34, DelDOT looks poised to remove signage for it by this summer:
https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf (https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf)
Residents and legislators believe that the designation as Delaware Route 34 may be increasing traffic volumes and heavy truck usage
Declassification of SR 34 may indirectly encourage drivers to use alternate routes such as SR 48 to the north, or SR 2 to the south
I would suggest that south of Milford they should just build a freeway that is west of US 113 and then have it at a shallow angle that the further south it goes it moves away from US 113 and closer to US 13 so it meets the NE corner of the Salisbury Bypass.I had the same kind of thought. I thought about transitioning from the US 113 corridor to the US 13 corridor via US 9. Unfortunately I don't think that part of US 9 is used much by beach traffic.
This way both US 13 and 113 remain as independent routes and keep the interchanges like Turnpike distances where maybe only roads like US 9, DE 404, etc only have access to and from it.
Although Gov Hogan has been taking advantage of the previous Gov's gas tax increase to send a bit more money to the eastern shore. See MD 404.
The only freeway segment I think would be likely for the eastern shore would be US 50 between US 301 and MD 404. Even that will come piecemeal instead of all at once. They've already broken it down into 8 phases. And those look like they could be done independently.
I would suggest that south of Milford they should just build a freeway that is west of US 113 and then have it at a shallow angle that the further south it goes it moves away from US 113 and closer to US 13 so it meets the NE corner of the Salisbury Bypass.That's sort of the concept I envisioned. It would leave the existing US-113 highway intact, not impact local traffic flow, and allow long-distance traffic to continue on freeway into Maryland, and if Maryland tied it seamlessly into the Salisbury Bypass, that would be even more efficient. US-13 south of Salisbury has mostly limited-access with frontage roads and public road access only, and would be an easier freeway upgrade if they wished to continue the concept to Pocomoke City, as opposed to the four-lane non-limited-access highway US-113 is in Maryland.
This way both US 13 and 113 remain as independent routes and keep the interchanges like Turnpike distances where maybe only roads like US 9, DE 404, etc only have access to and from it.
That's sort of the concept I envisioned. It would leave the existing US-113 highway intact, not impact local traffic flow, and allow long-distance traffic to continue on freeway into Maryland, and if Maryland tied it seamlessly into the Salisbury Bypass, that would be even more efficient. US-13 south of Salisbury has mostly limited-access with frontage roads and public road access only, and would be an easier freeway upgrade if they wished to continue the concept to Pocomoke City, as opposed to the four-lane non-limited-access highway US-113 is in Maryland.
Then Virginia could construct limited-access tollway paralleling the existing US-13 closely (really closely similar to how DE-1 is to US-13 to minimize impacts) tying into the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel. It's not impossible, it's certainly workable, and if it was toll financed, it would definitely make it fundable. If it was tolled at $20 or so one-way for 200+ miles of 65-70 MPH limited-access freeway over existing 35-55 MPH US-13 with traffic signals & towns, I'm sure it would get a good amount of revenue to pay back toll bonds.
No one was talking about US 9 having a freeway. $40-$50? You sure? Probably more like $20 to pay back the bonds. See, I can play that same game.That's sort of the concept I envisioned. It would leave the existing US-113 highway intact, not impact local traffic flow, and allow long-distance traffic to continue on freeway into Maryland, and if Maryland tied it seamlessly into the Salisbury Bypass, that would be even more efficient. US-13 south of Salisbury has mostly limited-access with frontage roads and public road access only, and would be an easier freeway upgrade if they wished to continue the concept to Pocomoke City, as opposed to the four-lane non-limited-access highway US-113 is in Maryland.
US-9 as pointed out is not a busy road. It would not need a freeway paralleling it.Then Virginia could construct limited-access tollway paralleling the existing US-13 closely (really closely similar to how DE-1 is to US-13 to minimize impacts) tying into the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel. It's not impossible, it's certainly workable, and if it was toll financed, it would definitely make it fundable. If it was tolled at $20 or so one-way for 200+ miles of 65-70 MPH limited-access freeway over existing 35-55 MPH US-13 with traffic signals & towns, I'm sure it would get a good amount of revenue to pay back toll bonds.
You're sure? Probably more like $40 or $50 to pay back the bonds. What about environmental impacts on that narrow strip of land? That has been the main stated obstacle in the past.
I get an average speed of 51 mph on Goggle Maps between I-64 and Pocomoke City. The access management project proposed for Eastern Shore US-13 back 15 years ago included a couple bypass extensions and a few interchanges, and in conjunction with 60 mph maximum speeds limits, could likely boost that average speed to 55 or 56 mph.
Heck, I just find enjoyment in how tolls can be estimated without discussing how much construction and future maintenance would actually cost.
Let's say the cost to build the road is $1 Billion, and they want to issue 20 year bonds, so the average payback will need to be $50,000,000 per year (I'm using extremely simple math here).
If an estimated 1 vehicle per year will use the road, then the toll would need to be $50 million per vehicle just to pay off the bonds.
But if an estimated 100,000 vehicles per day were to use the road, that's 36,500,000 per year. Now the toll only needs to be about $1.37 per vehicle to go towards the bond payments.
And you need to add in money for maintenance, bond interest, and dozens of other expenses.
So, the point is, you can't just throw random numbers out there to say that's what the toll is going to be.
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Could you please bold the section in my quote where I say a freeway needs to be built for US 9?That's sort of the concept I envisioned. It would leave the existing US-113 highway intact, not impact local traffic flow, and allow long-distance traffic to continue on freeway into Maryland, and if Maryland tied it seamlessly into the Salisbury Bypass, that would be even more efficient. US-13 south of Salisbury has mostly limited-access with frontage roads and public road access only, and would be an easier freeway upgrade if they wished to continue the concept to Pocomoke City, as opposed to the four-lane non-limited-access highway US-113 is in Maryland.
US-9 as pointed out is not a busy road. It would not need a freeway paralleling it.
Then Virginia could construct limited-access tollway paralleling the existing US-13 closely (really closely similar to how DE-1 is to US-13 to minimize impacts) tying into the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel. It's not impossible, it's certainly workable, and if it was toll financed, it would definitely make it fundable. If it was tolled at $20 or so one-way for 200+ miles of 65-70 MPH limited-access freeway over existing 35-55 MPH US-13 with traffic signals & towns, I'm sure it would get a good amount of revenue to pay back toll bonds.
You're sure? Probably more like $40 or $50 to pay back the bonds. What about environmental impacts on that narrow strip of land? That has been the main stated obstacle in the past.For the Virginia portion - about 65 miles of new location freeway. Using a $50 million per mile figure, about $3.2 billion. At 15 cents per mile, that's $9.75 total. State and federal funding would also support the project, in conjunction with toll bonds. It would not be fully toll dependent.
I get an average speed of 51 mph on Goggle Maps between I-64 and Pocomoke City. The access management project proposed for Eastern Shore US-13 back 15 years ago included a couple bypass extensions and a few interchanges, and in conjunction with 60 mph maximum speeds limits, could likely boost that average speed to 55 or 56 mph.Hard to say Google Maps estimates are always correct. I'll have to run an analysis basing each speed zone (55 MPH for xx miles, 45 MPH for xx miles, etc.) and get an average that way to get a detailed time. Also realize neither Google Maps nor the more detailed estimate factor in traffic signals. US-13 is 55 MPH in rural areas, though frequently drops to 35 MPH on town bypasses littered with businesses, traffic signals, etc. Not to mention the corridor carries about 20,000 AADT.
Heck, I just find enjoyment in how tolls can be estimated without discussing how much construction and future maintenance would actually cost.See my analysis above. Using a high $50 million per mile estimate, it's about $3.2 billion. Using 15 cents per mile, that's about $9.75 total. Not to mention, a lot of the $3.2 billion would have come from state and federal sources if a project this large was undertaken. If you toll support all $3.2 billion, then you'd need an extremely high toll, which they wouldn't build a road knowing this.
Let's say the cost to build the road is $1 Billion, and they want to issue 20 year bonds, so the average payback will need to be $50,000,000 per year (I'm using extremely simple math here).
If an estimated 1 vehicle per year will use the road, then the toll would need to be $50 million per vehicle just to pay off the bonds.
But if an estimated 100,000 vehicles per day were to use the road, that's 36,500,000 per year. Now the toll only needs to be about $1.37 per vehicle to go towards the bond payments.
And you need to add in money for maintenance, bond interest, and dozens of other expenses.
So, the point is, you can't just throw random numbers out there to say that's what the toll is going to be.
You're sure? Probably more like $40 or $50 to pay back the bonds. What about environmental impacts on that narrow strip of land? That has been the main stated obstacle in the past.For the Virginia portion - about 65 miles of new location freeway. Using a $50 million per mile figure, about $3.2 billion. At 15 cents per mile, that's $9.75 total. State and federal funding would also support the project, in conjunction with toll bonds. It would not be fully toll dependent.
The environmental impacts certainly do exist. There's about 1.5 miles of farmland on either side of the existing corridor, or in some areas it's only on one side, and freeway could be constructed in that corridor. Take DE-1 for example. It was built parallel to US-13. Literally parallel in many areas, it runs right next to it or less than half a mile away from it, and crosses it many times. Such a design could be used here as well to reduce the footprint.
See my analysis above. Using a high $50 million per mile estimate, it's about $3.2 billion. Using 15 cents per mile, that's about $9.75 total. Not to mention, a lot of the $3.2 billion would have come from state and federal sources if a project this large was undertaken. If you toll support all $3.2 billion, then you'd need an extremely high toll, which they wouldn't build a road knowing this.
The US 301 toll route in DE cost over $50 million per mile. While much of Delmarva is more rural, just the simple fact that this fictional road won't be built for many years will easily push the road well above your 'high' estimate of $50 million per mile.
It costs $4 to cross the border, let's be real here.The US 301 toll route in DE cost over $50 million per mile. While much of Delmarva is more rural, just the simple fact that this fictional road won't be built for many years will easily push the road well above your 'high' estimate of $50 million per mile.
It could be less than $50 million per mile; I've actually done engineering estimates for construction on highway projects professionally, and in a nutshell you really don't know the total costs until you design the project and then add up all the costs. This business of picking figures out of the air ("$50 million per mile") is really humorous in these threads.
The US-301 tollroad costs $4 for an automobile for 12 miles of freeway. That is 33 cents per mile. It is a fairly routine freeway with no major bridges or cuts or fills.
What makes you think it wouldn't be federally funded? What makes you think it would be 30 or 40 cents per mile?You're sure? Probably more like $40 or $50 to pay back the bonds. What about environmental impacts on that narrow strip of land? That has been the main stated obstacle in the past.For the Virginia portion - about 65 miles of new location freeway. Using a $50 million per mile figure, about $3.2 billion. At 15 cents per mile, that's $9.75 total. State and federal funding would also support the project, in conjunction with toll bonds. It would not be fully toll dependent.
You made sound like it would be fully toll funded. What makes you think that there would be substantial amounts of state and federal funding? Just how much federal funding is there on the ERT and HRBT? Times are quite different from even 20 years ago.
What makes you think that it wouldn't be 30 or 40 cents per mile? The obvious flaw in your figures is that there is no figure for traffic volume.
What makes you think it wouldn't be federally funded? 'For the Virginia portion - about 65 miles of new location freeway. Using a $50 million per mile figure, about $3.2 billion. At 15 cents per mile, that's $9.75 total. State and federal funding would also support the project, in conjunction with toll bonds. It would not be fully toll dependent.You made sound like it would be fully toll funded. What makes you think that there would be substantial amounts of state and federal funding? Just how much federal funding is there on the ERT and HRBT? Times are quite different from even 20 years ago.
What makes you think that it wouldn't be 30 or 40 cents per mile? The obvious flaw in your figures is that there is no figure for traffic volume.
What makes you think it would be 30 or 40 cents per mile?
I get an average speed of 51 mph on Goggle Maps between I-64 and Pocomoke City. The access management project proposed for Eastern Shore US-13 back 15 years ago included a couple bypass extensions and a few interchanges, and in conjunction with 60 mph maximum speeds limits, could likely boost that average speed to 55 or 56 mph.Hard to say Google Maps estimates are always correct. I'll have to run an analysis basing each speed zone (55 MPH for xx miles, 45 MPH for xx miles, etc.) and get an average that way to get a detailed time. Also realize neither Google Maps nor the more detailed estimate factor in traffic signals. US-13 is 55 MPH in rural areas, though frequently drops to 35 MPH on town bypasses littered with businesses, traffic signals, etc. Not to mention the corridor carries about 20,000 AADT.
CBBT is 8,800 AADT. The next 30 miles trending from 10,000 at the south end gradually trending upward to about 14,000. The next 35 miles mostly in the upper teens.Between the US-60 Shore Dr / US-13 interchange in Virginia Beach to the Maryland State Line, it's 88 miles.
Google Maps certainly does include signals. I just ran a 9-mile segment of US-60 Midlothian Turnpike with 14 signals and it does not compute to the speed limit of 45 mph, the average is 29 mph. Based on there being some synchronization between signals, and based on my experiences there, that average sounds about right for this day of week and time of day.Differences between urban and rural. I looked at that same stretch, and it detects traffic backup from the signals, creating red areas on the traffic map at each of them. On a highway like US-13 in a mainly rural environment with towns, there's not enough time for backup to be detected, but certainly when you're stopping at signal after signal through each town, it adds maybe 5 minutes or slightly more to your drive. I've added at least 5 or 10 minutes from this alone going up the Eastern Shore myself. Not significant, but it's there. I'll run a speed analysis as I've done on US-58 in the past to see what the travel time is without signals and using the official speed limits for each section.
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To conclude, of the entire 88 mile corridor from Virginia Beach to Maryland, 59 miles or 67% of the corridor has a volume at or over 15,000 AADT. Like you had done, if you cut 20 miles off and only consider the 68 miles on the Eastern Shore, 87% of the corridor carries at or over 15,000 AADT. 62% of the Eastern Shore portion of the corridor carries at or over 18,000 AADT. Certainly not "30 miles below 14,000 AADT, and 35 miles above". In reality, it's 9 miles below 15,000 AADT, and 59 miles above. 42 of those miles is at or above 18,000 AADT.
Google Maps certainly does include signals. I just ran a 9-mile segment of US-60 Midlothian Turnpike with 14 signals and it does not compute to the speed limit of 45 mph, the average is 29 mph. Based on there being some synchronization between signals, and based on my experiences there, that average sounds about right for this day of week and time of day.Differences between urban and rural. I looked at that same stretch, and it detects traffic backup from the signals, creating red areas on the traffic map at each of them. On a highway like US-13 in a mainly rural environment with towns, there's not enough time for backup to be detected, but certainly when you're stopping at signal after signal through each town, it adds maybe 5 minutes or slightly more to your drive. I've added at least 5 or 10 minutes from this alone going up the Eastern Shore myself. Not significant, but it's there. I'll run a speed analysis as I've done on US-58 in the past to see what the travel time is without signals and using the official speed limits for each section.
Upgrading the existing highway along the lines of the Access Management Project of about 15 years ago, I think is the best way to handle this highway. Consolidation of driveways where feasible, building J-cut intersections where feasible, building interchanges at selected strategic intersections, build the two bypass extensions, roadway segments less than 24 feet widened to 24 feet, build 10 foot paved right shoulders where not already in place, build 4 foot left shoulders where not already in place, build sufficient length right-turn and left-turn lanes, urban undivided 4-lane sections widened to 5 lanes with center lane for left-turn only, build median barriers in narrow medians, purchase limited access controls on pre-existing bypasses as they were built without that, add signal synchronization and loop-activated signals where feasible if not already in place. That project was estimated at about $200 million for the 65 miles back then.I've taken a good look through that study, and that's honestly the next best approach to a freeway IMHO. Limiting the access on the entire corridor, constructing frontage roads in certain areas, widening the median to 50 feet where it's currently smaller than 30 feet, and constructing about 10 miles of new location, limited-access at-grade bypasses.
The part west of Centerville Road has an 8% grade (https://www.aaroads.com/de/034/de-034-e-at-oakland-dr.jpg). Do trucks ever use that to connect between SR 41 and SR 141? I could see trucks using it to get to the Dupont Chestnut Run site, and that would not change with SR 34 removed.
Upgrading the existing highway along the lines of the Access Management Project of about 15 years ago, I think is the best way to handle this highway. [. . . . . .] That project was estimated at about $200 million for the 65 miles back then.I've taken a good look through that study, and that's honestly the next best approach to a freeway IMHO. Limiting the access on the entire corridor, constructing frontage roads in certain areas, widening the median to 50 feet where it's currently smaller than 30 feet, and constructing about 10 miles of new location, limited-access at-grade bypasses.
The only issue is the cost estimates in 2019 dollars. The entire corridor would cost about $200 million per the estimates, and looking at the cost breakdown, that would be way higher today.
That $334 million estimate seems reasonable. If it was segment divided, likely the 4 mile Nelsonia / Mappsville bypass would be the first priority, then the Temperanceville / Oak Hall bypass, then the urban improvements, and lastly the median widening.Upgrading the existing highway along the lines of the Access Management Project of about 15 years ago, I think is the best way to handle this highway. [. . . . . .] That project was estimated at about $200 million for the 65 miles back then.I've taken a good look through that study, and that's honestly the next best approach to a freeway IMHO. Limiting the access on the entire corridor, constructing frontage roads in certain areas, widening the median to 50 feet where it's currently smaller than 30 feet, and constructing about 10 miles of new location, limited-access at-grade bypasses.
The only issue is the cost estimates in 2019 dollars. The entire corridor would cost about $200 million per the estimates, and looking at the cost breakdown, that would be way higher today.
Actually I see that was estimated at $139 million in 2002, and that included upgrading VA-175 on the mainland as well. Naturally it would cost a lot more in today's dollars.
Inflation factored at 5% since then would 2.4x or $334 million. It could be divided into probably at least 10 segments that could be built independent of the others, each segment providing benefits as it is completed.
http://virginiadot.org/projects/resources/hampton_roads/rte13_final_report.pdf
Would this prove the fact that they will continue the 404 Eastward ?
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378 (https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378)
Would this prove the fact that they will continue the 404 Eastward ?
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378 (https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378)
Also this has some more information regarding U.S. 113
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1365700&iProjectObjectID=48378 (https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1365700&iProjectObjectID=48378)
Yes I know, but if they are making it grade separated, then it has a chance to be built out later onWould this prove the fact that they will continue the 404 Eastward ?
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378 (https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378)
Also this has some more information regarding U.S. 113
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1365700&iProjectObjectID=48378 (https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1365700&iProjectObjectID=48378)
It's an intersection improvements project that was part of the US 113 Study, it isn't related to any potential corridor-wide improvements for DE 404.
Ok, it looks pretty detailed like they are gonna do it.Would this prove the fact that they will continue the 404 Eastward ?
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378 (https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378)
It proves they studied it and proposed improvements. Until they've put it out to bid and a bid has been approved, it doesn't prove that they will actually build and/or continue it.
Yes I know, but if they are making it grade separated, then it has a chance to be built out later onWould this prove the fact that they will continue the 404 Eastward ?
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378 (https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378)
Also this has some more information regarding U.S. 113
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1365700&iProjectObjectID=48378 (https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1365700&iProjectObjectID=48378)
It's an intersection improvements project that was part of the US 113 Study, it isn't related to any potential corridor-wide improvements for DE 404.
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Not really, the grade separation proposed favors US 113 traffic over DE 404 traffic and does not address the fact that DE 404 immediately enters downtown Georgetown and narrows down. If DE 404 were to be dualized there would likely have to be significant new construction to get around the core of Georgetown which is not being studied, let alone being proposed. This project is not a step towards a dualized DE 404.
Yes I know, but if they are making it grade separated, then it has a chance to be built out later onWould this prove the fact that they will continue the 404 Eastward ?
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378 (https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1377202&iProjectObjectID=48378)
Also this has some more information regarding U.S. 113
https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1365700&iProjectObjectID=48378 (https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=1365700&iProjectObjectID=48378)
It's an intersection improvements project that was part of the US 113 Study, it isn't related to any potential corridor-wide improvements for DE 404.
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Not really, the grade separation proposed favors US 113 traffic over DE 404 traffic and does not address the fact that DE 404 immediately enters downtown Georgetown and narrows down. If DE 404 were to be dualized there would likely have to be significant new construction to get around the core of Georgetown which is not being studied, let alone being proposed. This project is not a step towards a dualized DE 404.
Agreed, this interchange improvement is mainly favors US-113 traffic as it's apart of the overall corridor improvements for the U.S. 113 corridor to eliminate a traffic signal. It does benefit DE-404 slightly, as it results in more green time not having to wait for US-113 cross traffic, but any large improvement to DE-404 would likely be either a northern bypass, or a southern bypass tying into the existing US-9 bypass. Whatever is chosen is dependent on how important DE-404 is. If the goal is to provide a 4-lane divided highway or freeway, then a northern bypass would be the best answer. If it's just simply a road to deter DE-404 traffic away from downtown, tying into the US 9 bypass could also work.Not really, the grade separation proposed favors US 113 traffic over DE 404 traffic and does not address the fact that DE 404 immediately enters downtown Georgetown and narrows down. If DE 404 were to be dualized there would likely have to be significant new construction to get around the core of Georgetown which is not being studied, let alone being proposed. This project is not a step towards a dualized DE 404.
DE-404 would have a northern bypass of Georgetown in a 4-lane DE-404 corridor, that would be my prediction.
Happy Spring, can y’all guess these locations
Newport had a train station!? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190329/ec23e09be87c1a2002c88af82764b8e1.jpg)
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Meanwhile, on the DE 1 approach to the Delaware beach zone...Amazing, would the increase in traffic & economy growth in Delaware & surrounding areas be the cause to finally fix these problems? Is Delaware finally realizing they need atleast 1 “Real Hwy” inorder to make the state run correctly. Hmm we will find out in the next episode of “AA FORUMS” .
https://www.capegazette.com/article/deldot-set-fast-track-cave-neck-overpass/177921
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Delaware has had several interchange and access consolidation projects planned along DE 1 for years...I believe they called it the "Route 1 Capacity Preservation Plan" or something along those lines 15 years ago. They're building them as funding allows.Not dramatic, I just care. From looking at plans & researching Delaware things, they only do anything based on money, yes everyone does because the world runs on money, but why wait on handouts when you can possibly find a way to fund the things you need.
You need to learn to be a bit less dramatic and stop thinking that DelDOT is only now responding to recent trends. They've been a lot more proactive on DE 1 than you're suggesting.
You need to learn to be a bit less dramaticHow about just ignoring his dramatic responses? It's not hurting you.
Delaware has had several interchange and access consolidation projects planned along DE 1 for years...I believe they called it the "Route 1 Capacity Preservation Plan" or something along those lines 15 years ago. They're building them as funding allows.
You need to learn to be a bit less dramatic and stop thinking that DelDOT is only now responding to recent trends. They've been a lot more proactive on DE 1 than you're suggesting.
but why wait on handouts when you can possibly find a way to fund the things you need.
I guess you’re right. It’s not like building infrastructure brings growth to places. I guess I shouldn’t invest in my business. Investing is badddd.Delaware has had several interchange and access consolidation projects planned along DE 1 for years...I believe they called it the "Route 1 Capacity Preservation Plan" or something along those lines 15 years ago. They're building them as funding allows.
You need to learn to be a bit less dramatic and stop thinking that DelDOT is only now responding to recent trends. They've been a lot more proactive on DE 1 than you're suggesting.
Seconded, it's kinda frustrating checking this topic for interesting information only for it to be filled with replies acting like this state is stuck in the stone age because it hasn't built out its entire Capital Transportation Plan along with every project that WILMAPCO has proposed.Quotebut why wait on handouts when you can possibly find a way to fund the things you need.
Because there isn't a way to build these projects on your time frame in a financially responsible manner. If there were a way they would have done it by now, it's not like DelDOT is trying to delay projects intentionally just to spite the population.
Without any break in traffic flowing south from Route 16, travelers, including cars, school buses, trucks and motorcycles, will have to make dangerous attempts to cross over in front of nonstop traffic heading south at any of the 12 crossovers that exist on Route 1 in this area. There are several businesses that depend on this access, and access to residential roads, existing on either side of Route 1 here in Milton, Nassau and Lewes.
Does DE 1 need all those overpasses between the Lincoln exit and Nassau? Did they need them 15 years ago? Does shoulder season and winter time traffic on DE 1 warrant them?Did I read that correctly? Im trying to understand how an overpass creates a dangerous situation for people to get to the other side.
And what about the safety of those attempting to access residences and businesses?
https://www.capegazette.com/article/letter-route-1-16-crossover-will-cause-big-problems/178114QuoteWithout any break in traffic flowing south from Route 16, travelers, including cars, school buses, trucks and motorcycles, will have to make dangerous attempts to cross over in front of nonstop traffic heading south at any of the 12 crossovers that exist on Route 1 in this area. There are several businesses that depend on this access, and access to residential roads, existing on either side of Route 1 here in Milton, Nassau and Lewes.
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I've been caught at the light at DE 1 and 16 a few times and it's never bothered me as much as the megalight at 1 and 9/404.
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^ It's safer for those at the overpass location. It's those folks a few miles upstream or downstream of the overpass who now have a more dangerous crossing because the elimination of the signal eliminates gaps in traffic. In this case, it would make the Route 5 intersection and the junctions down by the Eagle Crest Airport (and everyone who lives in between) more problematic.If thats the case they can build over pass bridges that cross the highway like they do everywhere else. Is that to much to do? They did it on I-95 60 years ago & they did it on the New 301 in present time.
again, there's significant cost involved.^ It's safer for those at the overpass location. It's those folks a few miles upstream or downstream of the overpass who now have a more dangerous crossing because the elimination of the signal eliminates gaps in traffic. In this case, it would make the Route 5 intersection and the junctions down by the Eagle Crest Airport (and everyone who lives in between) more problematic.If thats the case they can build over pass bridges that cross the highway like they do everywhere else. Is that to much to do? They did it on I-95 60 years ago & they did it on the New 301 in present time.
So we are already building a highway right? The people in the area that you want to compromise with in order to build the highway want a way to get over the highway safely & effectively, but taking a couple more planning days & earning more budget to do the project correctly is not worth the money &/ time spent.again, there's significant cost involved.^ It's safer for those at the overpass location. It's those folks a few miles upstream or downstream of the overpass who now have a more dangerous crossing because the elimination of the signal eliminates gaps in traffic. In this case, it would make the Route 5 intersection and the junctions down by the Eagle Crest Airport (and everyone who lives in between) more problematic.If thats the case they can build over pass bridges that cross the highway like they do everywhere else. Is that to much to do? They did it on I-95 60 years ago & they did it on the New 301 in present time.
^^^ There's a huge difference you're completely ignoring. I-95 and the New 301 were new-construction/new-alignment projects. Route 1 south of Milford (really south of Little Heaven) is an existing, long-established roadway with homes, businesses, and private driveways all along it. You can't just ramrod interchanges and overpasses along such a roadway without planning, accommodation, property purchase, mitigation, or funding. But you seem to think it's DelDOT's failure that they haven't.How about DelDOT launch a study to evaluate upgrading DE-1 to interstate standards, or constructing that new alignment? I'm not saying that's the option they should choose, but it should at least be considered to get a cost estimate.
^^^ There's a huge difference you're completely ignoring. I-95 and the New 301 were new-construction/new-alignment projects. Route 1 south of Milford (really south of Little Heaven) is an existing, long-established roadway with homes, businesses, and private driveways all along it.Yes & also there are many stretches where it is just trees and farm fields. But maybe if they create these new overpasses over the highway it will cause new roads to be built & then the infamous home builders will start breathing down deldots neck. So I can understand they dont want to do that.
Completely agree on the NIMBYs causing issues. They were the ones who prevented US-301 from getting upgraded between DE-1 and Maryland to interstate standards. Now, only spot improvements proposed like DE-1 is getting.^^^ There's a huge difference you're completely ignoring. I-95 and the New 301 were new-construction/new-alignment projects. Route 1 south of Milford (really south of Little Heaven) is an existing, long-established roadway with homes, businesses, and private driveways all along it.Yes & also there are many stretches where it is just trees and farm fields. But maybe if they create these new overpasses over the highway it will cause new roads to be built & then the infamous home builders will start breathing down deldots neck. So I can understand they dont want to do that.
But people are complaining Nimbys are 75% why projects get canceled alot of times & its a shame to see. Is it hard to have a simple highway from the Christiana mall to the beaches. That should have been completed.
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Delaware Memorial Bridge Toll is now officially @$5
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Oh my goodness, are those discounts I see for Ezpass & frequent travelers. I thought discounts were a myth nowadays.Delaware Memorial Bridge Toll is now officially @$5
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The below link shows the new toll rates.
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2019/05/01/delaware-memorial-bridge-toll-rates-to-increase-may-1/
DelDOT is pushing even harder in Sussex County to get some of their traffic woes resolved according to this article published by the Cape Gazette. (https://www.capegazette.com/article/deldot-upgrade-cape-region-intersections/181369)It makes sense that they're considering partial closures of the crossovers on DE-1. I've thought of DE-1 between US-9 and DE-9 as a much more heavily used version of US-301 on the Eastern Shore of Maryland. Very high speed traffic (experience has shown me that traffic moves around 70-75 on both roads, despite 55mph limits) combined with intersections with rural roads, I always question how people have the courage to cross DE-1, especially in the summer.
DelDOT is pushing even harder in Sussex County to get some of their traffic woes resolved according to this article published by the Cape Gazette. (https://www.capegazette.com/article/deldot-upgrade-cape-region-intersections/181369)It makes sense that they're considering partial closures of the crossovers on DE-1. I've thought of DE-1 between US-9 and DE-9 as a much more heavily used version of US-301 on the Eastern Shore of Maryland. Very high speed traffic (experience has shown me that traffic moves around 70-75 on both roads, despite 55mph limits) combined with intersections with rural roads, I always question how people have the courage to cross DE-1, especially in the summer.
I've crossed US-301 (at MD-302) coming from Dover a few times to get to the Bay Bridge, but at least there's usually a break in traffic on 301, but as I said, volumes are so much lower on that road that it's a completely different animal.
The speed limit on DE 1 from Tybouts Corner to I-95 is being raised from 55 mph to 60 mph. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=7697)
The speed limit on DE 1 from Tybouts Corner to I-95 is being raised from 55 mph to 60 mph. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=7697)
Personally, unless I'm heading up towards Christiana Mall or somewhere on Limestone Road/Kennett Square, I never drive on that stretch of DE-1, it's just too crowded. I take US-13/40 if I'm heading towards Wilmington, Philadelphia, or New Jersey or take DE-71 or DE-896 if I'm heading towards Newark/Lancaster.The speed limit on DE 1 from Tybouts Corner to I-95 is being raised from 55 mph to 60 mph. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=7697)
Thank goodness, that limit drove me nuts. It's pretty much universally ignored.
Its a good transition from the 1 to 95 & etc. It will help people who were driving from 55-65 to now 60-80.Personally, unless I'm heading up towards Christiana Mall or somewhere on Limestone Road/Kennett Square, I never drive on that stretch of DE-1, it's just too crowded. I take US-13/40 if I'm heading towards Wilmington, Philadelphia, or New Jersey or take DE-71 or DE-896 if I'm heading towards Newark/Lancaster.The speed limit on DE 1 from Tybouts Corner to I-95 is being raised from 55 mph to 60 mph. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=7697)
Thank goodness, that limit drove me nuts. It's pretty much universally ignored.
The speed limit on DE 1 from Tybouts Corner to I-95 is being raised from 55 mph to 60 mph. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=7697)
If you can even go that fast, especially southbound during afternoon rush hour or during peak beach traffic on weekends
Its funny how 13/40 moves faster then 95 sometimes. Even airport road is the fastest when 95/295 are backed up.For me, it's not even a matter of 13/40 moving faster than 95 at 295, I just really don't like driving on that stretch of road. Granted, 13/40 isn't much fun either, but at least all the lanes generally move consistently. Also, I tend to have a preference for the shorter route vs. the "faster" route.
That makes sense. From my driving experience. I don’t know if I’m correct or not. But the highway (fastest route) & the local roads (shortest route) usually get you to the location you are going at the same time, that is unless there isn’t any accidents on either routes making the travel time lengthy.Its funny how 13/40 moves faster then 95 sometimes. Even airport road is the fastest when 95/295 are backed up.For me, it's not even a matter of 13/40 moving faster than 95 at 295, I just really don't like driving on that stretch of road. Granted, 13/40 isn't much fun either, but at least all the lanes generally move consistently. Also, I tend to have a preference for the shorter route vs. the "faster" route.
Doesn't look like the DE 1/US 9/DE 404/Business US 9 intersection is going to be bypassed any time soon...
https://www.capegazette.com/article/deldot-road-projects-will-not-be-five-points-bypass/184007
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The title is a bit misleading,
I can't recall if any were to the scale of the Western Parkway project from the 2000s.
Any links to maps of that project available?
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A big part of the problem is the local governments approving development willy-nilly without protecting a corridor or right-of-way that could be used for a DE 1 alternative.
Any links to maps of that project available?
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Here you go!
https://deldot.gov/information/projects/FivePoints/pdfs/Studies/WesternParkway/WesternParkway-FivePointsPresentation02-11-2008.pdf (https://deldot.gov/information/projects/FivePoints/pdfs/Studies/WesternParkway/WesternParkway-FivePointsPresentation02-11-2008.pdf)
https://deldot.gov/information/projects/FivePoints/pdfs/Studies/WesternParkway/WesternParkway-PresentationtoSussexCouncil-2006.pdf (https://deldot.gov/information/projects/FivePoints/pdfs/Studies/WesternParkway/WesternParkway-PresentationtoSussexCouncil-2006.pdf)
DelDOT posted a bunch of old area studies on the main Five Points page. (https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/fivepoints/)
A big part of the problem is the local governments approving development willy-nilly without protecting a corridor or right-of-way that could be used for a DE 1 alternative.I'm just going to say one word.
Question, for those of you that have driven over the Delaware Memorial Bridge, have any of you noticed the antenna towers of Roxborough in the distance. Drawing a line from the DMB to the Roxborough towers on a map, they are just to the left of the Commodore Barry Bridge. It will probably be easier to spot them at night with their red blinking lights. So again, have any of you noticed them from DMB, if not, see if you could spot them by looking to the left of the CBB.
Here’s what I have for DE 1 exits going mileage based, including some of the newer Milford area exits.Exit 88 (present day) Bowers Beach is missing, for now I think that would be good as 52 (don't have a list in front of me right now).
Exit 39: DE 30 Lincoln
Exit 40 (NB ONLY): DE 1 BUS NORTH Milford
Exit 41: DE 36 Milford/Slaughter Beach
Exit 42: DE 14 WEST NE Front St
Exit 44 (SB ONLY): US 113 SOUTH TO DEL 1 BUS SOUTH Milford/Georgetown
Exit 46: Thompsonville Rd
Exit 48: Frederica Rd
Exit 50: DE 12 WEST N Frederica
Exit 56A (56 SB): DE 9 NORTH Kitts Hummock/Little Creek
Exit 56B (NB ONLY) Dover AFB Commercial Gate
Exit 57: Dover AFB Main Gate/Visitors
Exit 58: NB: DE 10 WEST Dover/Camden; SB: TO DE 10 South Dover/Camden//Dover AFB North Gate
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Exit 101: DE 7 Christiana Mall Rd
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Does anyone know the answer to this:
On DE 1 NB only, in Smyrna at the overpass of US 13 at Exit 119, there are signs for trucks over 5T GWV to use the right lane. There is also a sign for trucks to view a message on a VMS when flashing. All of this has been around for a few years now.
It seems like there is a pretty good sized bump up in the left lane to get onto that overpass...like there has been some undermining of the approach slab - is that it? Or something else?
Does anyone know the answer to this:
On DE 1 NB only, in Smyrna at the overpass of US 13 at Exit 119, there are signs for trucks over 5T GWV to use the right lane. There is also a sign for trucks to view a message on a VMS when flashing. All of this has been around for a few years now.
It seems like there is a pretty good sized bump up in the left lane to get onto that overpass...like there has been some undermining of the approach slab - is that it? Or something else?
It's an electronic weigh-in-motion scale for trucks, I believe.
Hello everyone, I hope everyone is having a happy fall. If you dont know already there has been many projects completed or started in New Castle county.
1. RED MILL RD RECONSTRUCTION. Has been completed. I will take pictures & post the new configuration of the intersection.
2. Limestone road has been repaved from Kirkwood Hwy To the PA Border. Also in the news the speed limit will be decreased from 50-45.
3. 141 SB RECONSTRUCTION is moving along & the Newark 95 exit has been closed for sometime & they are already pouring concrete for the ramp.
4. Work on DE-1 has begun again, it seems they have started the bridge widening on Road A as well & thats moving along fast.
5. 95 from Concord ave exit to the PA border has been repaved in both directions. Is this what it looked like when it was first built? , marsh road exit is still closed due to a reconstruction & signs along 95 are being updated.
6. Main St RECONSTRUCTION seems to be moving along steadily. Curb bumps have been installed on the left side with new parking ticket machines (like the ones in Philly) the right side is now being finished & pavement all around is getting redone. Many new buildings are also getting renovated as Well.
7. Wilmingtons projects including the new bus station & bridge are moving along. The bridge & 13 intersection are nearing completion. While the new bus terminal is being built & the road in front of the train station has been reconfigured. Talks of Wilmington Parking Authority being ran poorly was in the papers. Ill find the link & post it as Well.
8. Bear De intersection Route 40/7 has been updated with mass arm lights. Cross walks & sidewalks have been added as Well.
9. Wrangle Hill road widening is in full progress from De 1 all the way too porter road. A new business district in the old farm by Red-lion Rd & Wrangle Hill has started construction, as Well as a new Wawa & shopping center on the corner of Red-lion rd & Wrangle Hill Rd. Further down the road @the Route 40 intersection with fox run that intersection is nearing completion as they start the Del Law road reconfiguration.
That is all I can think of for now but its a-lot going on, a sign of progress!!
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9. Wrangle Hill road widening is in full progress from De 1 all the way too porter road. A new business district in the old farm by Red-lion Rd & Wrangle Hill has started construction, as Well as a new Wawa & shopping center on the corner of Red-lion rd & Wrangle Hill Rd. Further down the road @the Route 40 intersection with fox run that intersection is nearing completion as they start the Del Law road reconfiguration.
I was wondering if they were preparing the area for the widening project. They opened the lanes back up again. So I assume they will start doing some more work again soon.Hello everyone, I hope everyone is having a happy fall. If you dont know already there has been many projects completed or started in New Castle county.
1. RED MILL RD RECONSTRUCTION. Has been completed. I will take pictures & post the new configuration of the intersection.
2. Limestone road has been repaved from Kirkwood Hwy To the PA Border. Also in the news the speed limit will be decreased from 50-45.
3. 141 SB RECONSTRUCTION is moving along & the Newark 95 exit has been closed for sometime & they are already pouring concrete for the ramp.
4. Work on DE-1 has begun again, it seems they have started the bridge widening on Road A as well & thats moving along fast.
5. 95 from Concord ave exit to the PA border has been repaved in both directions. Is this what it looked like when it was first built? , marsh road exit is still closed due to a reconstruction & signs along 95 are being updated.
6. Main St RECONSTRUCTION seems to be moving along steadily. Curb bumps have been installed on the left side with new parking ticket machines (like the ones in Philly) the right side is now being finished & pavement all around is getting redone. Many new buildings are also getting renovated as Well.
7. Wilmingtons projects including the new bus station & bridge are moving along. The bridge & 13 intersection are nearing completion. While the new bus terminal is being built & the road in front of the train station has been reconfigured. Talks of Wilmington Parking Authority being ran poorly was in the papers. Ill find the link & post it as Well.
8. Bear De intersection Route 40/7 has been updated with mass arm lights. Cross walks & sidewalks have been added as Well.
9. Wrangle Hill road widening is in full progress from De 1 all the way too porter road. A new business district in the old farm by Red-lion Rd & Wrangle Hill has started construction, as Well as a new Wawa & shopping center on the corner of Red-lion rd & Wrangle Hill Rd. Further down the road @the Route 40 intersection with fox run that intersection is nearing completion as they start the Del Law road reconfiguration.
That is all I can think of for now but its a-lot going on, a sign of progress!!
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I think they start Elkton Road construction next year - they were doing some sort of work this summer that might have been preparation. So much for that shunpike starting next year.
They have already moved the utilities back. Put the black protector barrier for run off. & tilled the dirt for the next part. From the looks of it. It looks like the widening is going to about the train tracks. Maybe they will just be doing improvements. But they really have that area staged & ready. I guess we will know when the asphalt is laid.9. Wrangle Hill road widening is in full progress from De 1 all the way too porter road. A new business district in the old farm by Red-lion Rd & Wrangle Hill has started construction, as Well as a new Wawa & shopping center on the corner of Red-lion rd & Wrangle Hill Rd. Further down the road @the Route 40 intersection with fox run that intersection is nearing completion as they start the Del Law road reconfiguration.
IIRC that widening project should only be going from DE 1 to a little beyond DE 71, have they started the actual widening project or are they just doing advanced utility relocations?
Hello everyone, I hope everyone is having a happy fall. If you dont know already there has been many projects completed or started in New Castle county.
5. 95 from Concord ave exit to the PA border has been repaved in both directions. Is this what it looked like when it was first built? , marsh road exit is still closed due to a reconstruction & signs along 95 are being updated.
7. Wilmingtons projects including the new bus station & bridge are moving along. The bridge & 13 intersection are nearing completion. While the new bus terminal is being built & the road in front of the train station has been reconfigured. Talks of Wilmington Parking Authority being ran poorly was in the papers. Ill find the link & post it as Well.
Hello everyone, I hope everyone is having a happy fall. If you dont know already there has been many projects completed or started in New Castle county.
5. 95 from Concord ave exit to the PA border has been repaved in both directions. Is this what it looked like when it was first built? , marsh road exit is still closed due to a reconstruction & signs along 95 are being updated.
Not quite, prior to 2000, the 1960s concrete roadway was still in use. Some of the photos on the AARoads Archives (https://www.aaroads.com/albums/nggallery/delaware):
I-95 north at the Rockwood Road underpass in 1985:
(https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/i-095-de-archive-north/i-095_nb_exit_009_25.jpg)
I-95 north at the SR 3 underpass in 1985:
(https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/i-095-de-archive-north/i-095_nb_exit_010_21.jpg)
I-95 north at the PA line in 1985:
(https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/i-095-de-archive-north/i-095_nb_exit_011_26.jpg)
I-95 south after SR 3 in 1985:
(https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/i-095-de-archive-south/i-095_sb_exit_008_21.jpg)
7. Wilmingtons projects including the new bus station & bridge are moving along. The bridge & 13 intersection are nearing completion. While the new bus terminal is being built & the road in front of the train station has been reconfigured. Talks of Wilmington Parking Authority being ran poorly was in the papers. Ill find the link & post it as Well.
What is the status of the Front St/Walnut Street reconfiguration?
https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201504109
Alternatives for the latest interchange project along SR 1 have been posted on DelDOT's website, this one being at Cave Neck Road just north of Lewes.
It seems like they're following the same idea as the Minos Conaway Road interchange just to the south by scooting SR 1 off to the side and converting one of the old carriageways into a frontage road for local access. This interchange and the development project to the east that you see marked as "to be built by others" on the plans have been the focus of intense debate about expanding residential and commercial development radiating outward from the beaches.
Project Website (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201912201)
Found out from Bob that this classic set of signals in Marshallton is no more:There's also this assembly on Foulk Road (DE-261) at Brandywine High School (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8005661,-75.5224006,3a,75y,214.35h,90.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLvl8Cjv2X2XvMsNM8WQULg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). I was there probably 2 months ago and it was still around. I doubt it's been replaced.
(https://www.aaroads.com/de/002/old-capitol-tr-e-at-newport-rd.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/de/002/old-capitol-tr-e-at-newport-rd.jpg)
These were recently replaced with mast arm supported signals. This leaves just the 12-8-8 signals at Kiamensi/Newport Roads near Newport and Baynard Boulevard/Shipley Road near Brandywine Hundred as the lone area hold outs.
Found out from Bob that this classic set of signals in Marshallton is no more:There's also this assembly on Foulk Road (DE-261) at Brandywine High School (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.8005661,-75.5224006,3a,75y,214.35h,90.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLvl8Cjv2X2XvMsNM8WQULg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). I was there probably 2 months ago and it was still around. I doubt it's been replaced.
(https://www.aaroads.com/de/002/old-capitol-tr-e-at-newport-rd.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/de/002/old-capitol-tr-e-at-newport-rd.jpg)
These were recently replaced with mast arm supported signals. This leaves just the 12-8-8 signals at Kiamensi/Newport Roads near Newport and Baynard Boulevard/Shipley Road near Brandywine Hundred as the lone area hold outs.
3. 141 SB RECONSTRUCTION is moving along & the Newark 95 exit has been closed for sometime & they are already pouring concrete for the ramp.Something I noticed on DE-141 SB today at I-95 SB was that there appeared to be a traffic signal assembly installed where the I-95 SB to DE-141 SB ramp merges with DE-141. I'm not sure what this will be used for, but the I-287 EB/Hutchinson Parkway interchange in the White Plains NY area (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.014232,-73.7218519,3a,41.7y,98.88h,99.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0tdTNF2jqPj0Dx9fZkU6nQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) came to mind (they have lights at that interchange I'm assuming to prevent weaving).
I was wondering that aswell. Maybe thats what its for good call. We will know when its finished. Unless it’s temporary for night construction.3. 141 SB RECONSTRUCTION is moving along & the Newark 95 exit has been closed for sometime & they are already pouring concrete for the ramp.Something I noticed on DE-141 SB today at I-95 SB was that there appeared to be a traffic signal assembly installed where the I-95 SB to DE-141 SB ramp merges with DE-141. I'm not sure what this will be used for, but the I-287 EB/Hutchinson Parkway interchange in the White Plains NY area (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.014232,-73.7218519,3a,41.7y,98.88h,99.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0tdTNF2jqPj0Dx9fZkU6nQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) came to mind (they have lights at that interchange I'm assuming to prevent weaving).
3. 141 SB RECONSTRUCTION is moving along & the Newark 95 exit has been closed for sometime & they are already pouring concrete for the ramp.Something I noticed on DE-141 SB today at I-95 SB was that there appeared to be a traffic signal assembly installed where the I-95 SB to DE-141 SB ramp merges with DE-141. I'm not sure what this will be used for, but the I-287 EB/Hutchinson Parkway interchange in the White Plains NY area (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.014232,-73.7218519,3a,41.7y,98.88h,99.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0tdTNF2jqPj0Dx9fZkU6nQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) came to mind (they have lights at that interchange I'm assuming to prevent weaving).
I was wondering that aswell. Maybe thats what its for good call. We will know when its finished. Unless it’s temporary for night construction.3. 141 SB RECONSTRUCTION is moving along & the Newark 95 exit has been closed for sometime & they are already pouring concrete for the ramp.Something I noticed on DE-141 SB today at I-95 SB was that there appeared to be a traffic signal assembly installed where the I-95 SB to DE-141 SB ramp merges with DE-141. I'm not sure what this will be used for, but the I-287 EB/Hutchinson Parkway interchange in the White Plains NY area (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.014232,-73.7218519,3a,41.7y,98.88h,99.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0tdTNF2jqPj0Dx9fZkU6nQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) came to mind (they have lights at that interchange I'm assuming to prevent weaving).
Also 295 in Nj by the Mega Weave has a light right before the tunnel, is this to stop people from going into the tunnel incase of back ups?
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I was wondering that aswell. Maybe thats what its for good call. We will know when its finished. Unless it’s temporary for night construction.3. 141 SB RECONSTRUCTION is moving along & the Newark 95 exit has been closed for sometime & they are already pouring concrete for the ramp.Something I noticed on DE-141 SB today at I-95 SB was that there appeared to be a traffic signal assembly installed where the I-95 SB to DE-141 SB ramp merges with DE-141. I'm not sure what this will be used for, but the I-287 EB/Hutchinson Parkway interchange in the White Plains NY area (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.014232,-73.7218519,3a,41.7y,98.88h,99.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0tdTNF2jqPj0Dx9fZkU6nQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) came to mind (they have lights at that interchange I'm assuming to prevent weaving).
Also 295 in Nj by the Mega Weave has a light right before the tunnel, is this to stop people from going into the tunnel incase of back ups?
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That light on 295 in NJ is in case of a major incident within the tunnel, such as a fire, to keep people from traveling into the tunnel.
Otherwise, that tunnel experiences congestion on a daily basis as traffic goes from 5 lanes to 3 about 1/2 mile after the tunnel!
From context, just north of 76/42.I was wondering that aswell. Maybe thats what its for good call. We will know when its finished. Unless it’s temporary for night construction.3. 141 SB RECONSTRUCTION is moving along & the Newark 95 exit has been closed for sometime & they are already pouring concrete for the ramp.Something I noticed on DE-141 SB today at I-95 SB was that there appeared to be a traffic signal assembly installed where the I-95 SB to DE-141 SB ramp merges with DE-141. I'm not sure what this will be used for, but the I-287 EB/Hutchinson Parkway interchange in the White Plains NY area (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.014232,-73.7218519,3a,41.7y,98.88h,99.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0tdTNF2jqPj0Dx9fZkU6nQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) came to mind (they have lights at that interchange I'm assuming to prevent weaving).
Also 295 in Nj by the Mega Weave has a light right before the tunnel, is this to stop people from going into the tunnel incase of back ups?
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That light on 295 in NJ is in case of a major incident within the tunnel, such as a fire, to keep people from traveling into the tunnel.
Otherwise, that tunnel experiences congestion on a daily basis as traffic goes from 5 lanes to 3 about 1/2 mile after the tunnel!
Uh.... where *is* the Mega Weave?
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I was wondering that aswell. Maybe thats what its for good call. We will know when its finished. Unless it’s temporary for night construction.3. 141 SB RECONSTRUCTION is moving along & the Newark 95 exit has been closed for sometime & they are already pouring concrete for the ramp.Something I noticed on DE-141 SB today at I-95 SB was that there appeared to be a traffic signal assembly installed where the I-95 SB to DE-141 SB ramp merges with DE-141. I'm not sure what this will be used for, but the I-287 EB/Hutchinson Parkway interchange in the White Plains NY area (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.014232,-73.7218519,3a,41.7y,98.88h,99.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0tdTNF2jqPj0Dx9fZkU6nQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) came to mind (they have lights at that interchange I'm assuming to prevent weaving).
Also 295 in Nj by the Mega Weave has a light right before the tunnel, is this to stop people from going into the tunnel incase of back ups?
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That light on 295 in NJ is in case of a major incident within the tunnel, such as a fire, to keep people from traveling into the tunnel.
Otherwise, that tunnel experiences congestion on a daily basis as traffic goes from 5 lanes to 3 about 1/2 mile after the tunnel!
Uh.... where *is* the Mega Weave?
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I was digging through bids on DelDOT's website at work earlier today and came across some interesting details concerning the latter half of the SR 141 / I-95 interchange improvements project. It turns out the plan is to basically separate and extend I-295 SB through the interchange to a merge point near the "sand box." At the same time, I-95 SB will be widened to 4 lanes from the gore at Exit 5 through to the new merge point with I-295 SB. After everything finishes merging in, I-95 will have 4 through lanes continue through the marsh while I-295 will have, with its left lane ending prior to the Christina River. The split at Exit 5 will be updated to include an option lane to accommodate the new lane on I-95 SB. The end result will be 8 lanes total passing beneath SR 141, 2 lanes of I-295, 4 lanes of I-95, and another 2 lanes of CD road for Exit 5.
The general layout will look like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/5YNpY6T.png)
Source:
http://gssdocs.deldot.delaware.gov/bids/T201109001%20-%20Plans.pdf (http://gssdocs.deldot.delaware.gov/bids/T201109001%20-%20Plans.pdf)
I'm pretty surprised I'm just finding out about this now given how big this is for the interstate, I don't believe DelDOT ever marketed this aspect of the project anywhere unless they've been skimping out on uploading workshop documents to the website. Interestingly enough, I think the section of roadway where I-295 and both ramps from SR 141 merge onto I-95 will qualify for the widest segment of standalone carriageway in the state (aside toll plazas) at 8 full width lanes (granted this section doesn't last long as the ramps from SR 141 merge into one lane after a few hundred feet).
I'd rather them build a flyover from I-295 to the right side of I-95 for beach traffic to eliminate all the weaving over the Marsh. They should also separate out I-295 earlier going northbound (though that could just move the backups further south).
This is true. But the time for that was in the 50’s when they built the highway. The best they can do now is fix the merges or make this whole area a 3-3-3-3 Config.I was digging through bids on DelDOT's website at work earlier today and came across some interesting details concerning the latter half of the SR 141 / I-95 interchange improvements project. It turns out the plan is to basically separate and extend I-295 SB through the interchange to a merge point near the "sand box." At the same time, I-95 SB will be widened to 4 lanes from the gore at Exit 5 through to the new merge point with I-295 SB. After everything finishes merging in, I-95 will have 4 through lanes continue through the marsh while I-295 will have, with its left lane ending prior to the Christina River. The split at Exit 5 will be updated to include an option lane to accommodate the new lane on I-95 SB. The end result will be 8 lanes total passing beneath SR 141, 2 lanes of I-295, 4 lanes of I-95, and another 2 lanes of CD road for Exit 5.
The general layout will look like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/5YNpY6T.png)
Source:
http://gssdocs.deldot.delaware.gov/bids/T201109001%20-%20Plans.pdf (http://gssdocs.deldot.delaware.gov/bids/T201109001%20-%20Plans.pdf)
I'm pretty surprised I'm just finding out about this now given how big this is for the interstate, I don't believe DelDOT ever marketed this aspect of the project anywhere unless they've been skimping out on uploading workshop documents to the website. Interestingly enough, I think the section of roadway where I-295 and both ramps from SR 141 merge onto I-95 will qualify for the widest segment of standalone carriageway in the state (aside toll plazas) at 8 full width lanes (granted this section doesn't last long as the ramps from SR 141 merge into one lane after a few hundred feet).
I’d rather them build a flyover from I-295 to the right side of I-95 for beach traffic to eliminate all the weaving over the Marsh. They should also separate out I-295 earlier going northbound (though that could just move the backups further south).
Shit before they fix that NB295 141 Lane. They will have to fix the back up that happens on the curve before the bridge. The slowdown that occurs before & after the bridge even though there is no traffic is confusing, 295 on the jersey side is always clear. But traffic slows down. Is that due to State troopers being more aggressive then a black wasp or people merging ?
I'd rather them build a flyover from I-295 to the right side of I-95 for beach traffic to eliminate all the weaving over the Marsh. They should also separate out I-295 earlier going northbound (though that could just move the backups further south).
Yeah, the backup location would just change. The ramp from 141 South to 295 North also doesn't have an accel lane which causes confusion and slowdowns as well. The real issue for 95 North is that there's only 2 lanes for 295 North. Not a problem Monday - Thursday. A horrendous problem Friday - Sunday. The new 141 overpass allows for such widening; the former construction of the barrier on 295 approaching US 13 allows for such widening as well. But as far as I know the DRBA has no such plans to complete the widening process for any time in the near future.
The new 141 overpass allows for such widening; the former construction of the barrier on 295 approaching US 13 allows for such widening as well. But as far as I know the DRBA has no such plans to complete the widening process for any time in the near future.
Looking further down in those plans, I notice that the new signage for DE 141 omits US 202. Is DelDOT planning to truncate 202 to the interchange north of Wilmington, or are they just de-emphasizing it?I've not seen any official chatter about truncation, but there's already precedent for truncating more useful US route designations elsewhere in the state, see US 113 from Milford to Dover for instance. Given how I rarely if ever hear anybody outside of here refer to anything south of Concord Pike as US 202, it's certainly a possibility.
Isn't that part of I-295 maintained by the DRBA? They had mileposts there at one time, but no clear jurisdictional markers that I can recall.
Isn't that part of I-295 maintained by the DRBA? They had mileposts there at one time, but no clear jurisdictional markers that I can recall.
I believe DRBA jurisdiction starts at US 13 / 40 interchange, which would make sense given that's where the Delaware Memorial Bridge approaches initially dumped you prior to the interstates being built.
I guess that means the 1 will Definitely not be extended! .The new 141 overpass allows for such widening; the former construction of the barrier on 295 approaching US 13 allows for such widening as well. But as far as I know the DRBA has no such plans to complete the widening process for any time in the near future.
DelDOT's latest spend plan has what I can only assume is widening tentatively slated to begin along I-295 NB between SR 141 and US 13 in FY26.
See rows 90-95: https://deldot.gov/Publications/reports/CTP/pdfs/CTP-FY20-FY26-Spend-Plan-COT-Revised.pdf?cache=1571798452414 (https://deldot.gov/Publications/reports/CTP/pdfs/CTP-FY20-FY26-Spend-Plan-COT-Revised.pdf?cache=1571798452414)Looking further down in those plans, I notice that the new signage for DE 141 omits US 202. Is DelDOT planning to truncate 202 to the interchange north of Wilmington, or are they just de-emphasizing it?I've not seen any official chatter about truncation, but there's already precedent for truncating more useful US route designations elsewhere in the state, see US 113 from Milford to Dover for instance. Given how I rarely if ever hear anybody outside of here refer to anything south of Concord Pike as US 202, it's certainly a possibility.
This reminded me of something else I stumbled upon today, the bridge twinning project on Road A over SR 1 by the Christiana Mall seems to be further de-emphasizing SR 1's short trek beyond I-95 to SR 58. The signing and striping plans on pages 130-137 of the link below show a couple of distant references to SR 1 NB past Road A, but none of the signage directly adjacent to the ramps includes any mention of it. Only SR 7 NB and directions to I-95 are referenced. DelDOT's going as far as to post a new 'SR 1 Ends' sign just prior to the new overpass.
http://gssdocs.deldot.delaware.gov/bids/T201009002%20-%20Plans.pdf (http://gssdocs.deldot.delaware.gov/bids/T201009002%20-%20Plans.pdf)
3. 141 SB RECONSTRUCTION is moving along & the Newark 95 exit has been closed for sometime & they are already pouring concrete for the ramp.Something I noticed on DE-141 SB today at I-95 SB was that there appeared to be a traffic signal assembly installed where the I-95 SB to DE-141 SB ramp merges with DE-141. I'm not sure what this will be used for, but the I-287 EB/Hutchinson Parkway interchange in the White Plains NY area (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.014232,-73.7218519,3a,41.7y,98.88h,99.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0tdTNF2jqPj0Dx9fZkU6nQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) came to mind (they have lights at that interchange I'm assuming to prevent weaving).
When the ramps are reopened there will be a new traffic pattern with new traffic lights for southbound Route 141.
The Route 141 southbound right lane will have a traffic signal while the left lane will be on constant green, and traffic coming off the ramp from southbound I-95 to southbound 141 will be subject to a traffic light.
That said, I wouldn't rely on "Joe Joe" knowledge. He just said that the gas at Wawa is from his refinery...then says it's from China. Oil comes from the ground. It doesn't care what country it's under.This right here! It was more sarcasm on my part. Sorry if yall couldnt tell. The people on nextdoor talk about the craziest things. You should have seen how they were acting when they were fixing Harmony road & Redmill @ the same time. Talk about crazy.
https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201811001#project-details1 (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201811001#project-details1)
Are the traffic nightmares of De-1 at Christiana mall finally over?! Looks like the 3rd lane going SB is finally getting completed. Slated to start Spring 2020 & end summer 2020.
Aww damn did I read it wrong. I thought it was adding a thru lane from the 273exit to 40 :/. Not after it.https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201811001#project-details1 (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201811001#project-details1)
Are the traffic nightmares of De-1 at Christiana mall finally over?! Looks like the 3rd lane going SB is finally getting completed. Slated to start Spring 2020 & end summer 2020.
Considering the traffic stems from traffic exiting SB at SR 273 and this project addresses the segment between SR 273 and US 40, this project likely isn't going to make any impact on the back-ups into the mall interchange.
Has anyone see these projects they have planned?
I-95/273 Improvements to be made before the big reconstruction https://deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=3912421&iProjectObjectID=1475 (https://deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=3912421&iProjectObjectID=1475)
They are still doing that. This was uploaded in Nov of this year. As a temp construction till then (I believe) Look at the chosen plan its a big ass DDI.Has anyone see these projects they have planned?
I-95/273 Improvements to be made before the big reconstruction https://deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=3912421&iProjectObjectID=1475 (https://deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=3912421&iProjectObjectID=1475)
They went real basic with this one. Some of the alternatives included keeping the bridges but making a huge DDI out of them, with traffic flowing the opposite way it does now.
Woah! so I found out that the WILMAPCO site has all the projects from the past to now. Check out this monorail project and its pretty extensive
http://www.wilmapco.org/monorail/ (http://www.wilmapco.org/monorail/)
Woah! so I found out that the WILMAPCO site has all the projects from the past to now. Check out this monorail project and its pretty extensive
http://www.wilmapco.org/monorail/ (http://www.wilmapco.org/monorail/)
Not extensive enough. There's no link to that monorail production number on The Simpsons. :)
Mono-D'OH!
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What's being constructed there?Which pic P?
All three pics. One of them is clearly near Frawley Stadium/Judy Johnson Field where the Blue Rocks play.What's being constructed there?Which pic P?
I wondered how they were gonna do that intersection with the gas lines right there. I guess we know now. LOL.
Image 1 is a new road going from the movie theater intersection.All three pics. One of them is clearly near Frawley Stadium/Judy Johnson Field where the Blue Rocks play.What's being constructed there?Which pic P?
I wondered how they were gonna do that intersection with the gas lines right there. I guess we know now. LOL.
Everything can be moved. It's just how much money they want to spend dealing with it!
I wondered how they were gonna do that intersection with the gas lines right there. I guess we know now. LOL.
Everything can be moved. It's just how much money they want to spend dealing with it!
Thats very true. I wonder what cane first though, the pipes or the riverfront?!
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Image 2 is the new bus depot for Dart, by the train station.
You know thats a good question, I have no idea where those businesses moved.Image 2 is the new bus depot for Dart, by the train station.
Looking at GSV, as recently as June 2018, the bus depot site (Walnut [US Bus. 13 NB] and Front Sts.) was home to Hertz, Avis, Budget, and Enterprise used car lots. Where did they move to?
Also this will be an intercity bus depot, right? Or will DART have a major presence as well?
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Image 2 is the new bus depot for Dart, by the train station.
Looking at GSV, as recently as June 2018, the bus depot site (Walnut [US Bus. 13 NB] and Front Sts.) was home to Hertz, Avis, Budget, and Enterprise used car lots. Where did they move to?
Also this will be an intercity bus depot, right? Or will DART have a major presence as well?
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They have like 3 parking garages in front of the train station dont they? They were all full!?? Thats crazy that definitely means it’s time for some skyscrapers & underground parking.Image 2 is the new bus depot for Dart, by the train station.
Looking at GSV, as recently as June 2018, the bus depot site (Walnut [US Bus. 13 NB] and Front Sts.) was home to Hertz, Avis, Budget, and Enterprise used car lots. Where did they move to?
Also this will be an intercity bus depot, right? Or will DART have a major presence as well?
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They moved the rental cars to a surface lot that had been used for paid parking. It has made parking at the station much more difficult (I had to park on the street to catch a train to a meeting and have a co-worker move my car into our office garage because all the garages were full).
They have like 3 parking garages in front of the train station dont they? They were all full!?? Thats crazy that definitely means it’s time for some skyscrapers & underground parking.Image 2 is the new bus depot for Dart, by the train station.
Looking at GSV, as recently as June 2018, the bus depot site (Walnut [US Bus. 13 NB] and Front Sts.) was home to Hertz, Avis, Budget, and Enterprise used car lots. Where did they move to?
Also this will be an intercity bus depot, right? Or will DART have a major presence as well?
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They moved the rental cars to a surface lot that had been used for paid parking. It has made parking at the station much more difficult (I had to park on the street to catch a train to a meeting and have a co-worker move my car into our office garage because all the garages were full).
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Creativity behind DelDOT VMS's has become news fodder for a Salisbury TV station (and its sister serving the Delaware beaches).I used to work with Scott in my old job! He's a really good guy. I suggested one and apparently it was put on a VMS somewhere, but I never saw it.
https://www.wrde.com/story/41733513/meet-the-mastermind-behind-the-deldot-message-boards
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I hope this means we get more trains coming & going to Delaware :hmmm:
https://delawarebusinessnow.com/2020/03/septa-announces-schedule-changes-to-regional-rail-line/ (https://delawarebusinessnow.com/2020/03/septa-announces-schedule-changes-to-regional-rail-line/)
Yea... I kinda noticed at the end its time changes due to construction “ditto” this postI hope this means we get more trains coming & going to Delaware :hmmm:
https://delawarebusinessnow.com/2020/03/septa-announces-schedule-changes-to-regional-rail-line/ (https://delawarebusinessnow.com/2020/03/septa-announces-schedule-changes-to-regional-rail-line/)
no, it's clearly just timetable changes. the article isn't that long; it would've taken less time to just read it than to post that speculation.
It looks like DelDOT is planning on adding a dynamic shoulder lane to I-95 SB between DE 141 and DE 58 in an upcoming project that'll rehab the pavement through the marsh, as well as widen the DE 58 exit to two lanes and replace the WB yield with a traffic signal. This managed shoulder lane will be the first of its kind in the state to my knowledge.
More Info (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201906109)
It looks like DelDOT is planning on adding a dynamic shoulder lane to I-95 SB between DE 141 and DE 58 in an upcoming project that'll rehab the pavement through the marsh, as well as widen the DE 58 exit to two lanes and replace the WB yield with a traffic signal. This managed shoulder lane will be the first of its kind in the state to my knowledge.
More Info (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201906109)
The one thing about hard shoulder running is that DelDOT should be prepared to provide significantly more and better freeway service patrol (FSP) units along that part of I-95, so that stalled vehicles and crashes can be quickly resolved or pushed to a pull-off area.
Absolutely, the write-up they provided talked about a closed-circuit camera system they plan to set up to allow them to monitor it continually. The straight shot through the marsh should be relatively easy to monitor, sight obstruction wise.
The one thing about hard shoulder running is that DelDOT should be prepared to provide significantly more and better freeway service patrol (FSP) units along that part of I-95, so that stalled vehicles and crashes can be quickly resolved or pushed to a pull-off area. The DelDOT FSP units assigned to that area should all be 3/4 ton or 1 ton pickup trucks or wreckers with Diesel engines, heavy-duty transmissions and have heavy-duty push bumpers on the front (I have seen the DelDOT FSP trucks on the road but have not had the opportunity to look at one up-close like I have with the Maryland and Virginia trucks).
Wait wait, FSP does provide good service to that part of 95. They clear accidents pretty quickly as well as removing objects from the road.The one thing about hard shoulder running is that DelDOT should be prepared to provide significantly more and better freeway service patrol (FSP) units along that part of I-95, so that stalled vehicles and crashes can be quickly resolved or pushed to a pull-off area. The DelDOT FSP units assigned to that area should all be 3/4 ton or 1 ton pickup trucks or wreckers with Diesel engines, heavy-duty transmissions and have heavy-duty push bumpers on the front (I have seen the DelDOT FSP trucks on the road but have not had the opportunity to look at one up-close like I have with the Maryland and Virginia trucks).
The state and local police vehicles need to be kept well stocked with shovels and body bags.
It looks like DelDOT is planning on adding a dynamic shoulder lane to I-95 SB between DE 141 and DE 58 in an upcoming project that'll rehab the pavement through the marsh, as well as widen the DE 58 exit to two lanes and replace the WB yield with a traffic signal. This managed shoulder lane will be the first of its kind in the state to my knowledge.Ahhh so they are gonna run the lane from the 141 C/D lane exit? All the way to the 38?
More Info (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201906109)
DelDOT is going AET temporarily on I-95 and Route 1 due to COVID-19.It would be really interesting if this random event causes the entire nation to end up AET in 2020 and they don't go back.
https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8027&type=News (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8027&type=News)
NOOO! They just put the signs up for the work on De-1DelDOT is going AET temporarily on I-95 and Route 1 due to COVID-19.It would be really interesting if this random event causes the entire nation to end up AET in 2020 and they don't go back.
https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8027&type=News (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8027&type=News)
It would be really interesting if this random event causes the entire nation to end up AET in 2020 and they don't go back.Every toll booth would need an optical license plate reader first.
DelDOT is going AET temporarily on I-95 and Route 1 due to COVID-19.
https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8027&type=News
They don't have readers right now and that isn't stopping them.It would be really interesting if this random event causes the entire nation to end up AET in 2020 and they don't go back.Every toll booth would need an optical license plate reader first.
So that would mean that vehicles without ET wouldn't get tolled.They don't have readers right now and that isn't stopping them.It would be really interesting if this random event causes the entire nation to end up AET in 2020 and they don't go back.Every toll booth would need an optical license plate reader first.
I was driving on US-13 in North Dover this morning and came across a portable VMS saying "STOP THE SPREAD" / "STAY HOME" This is combined with the governor saying he may issue a stay at home order today.
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I was driving on US-13 in North Dover this morning and came across a portable VMS saying "STOP THE SPREAD" / "STAY HOME" This is combined with the governor saying he may issue a stay at home order today.
(this might be considered off topic)
I was driving on US-13 in North Dover this morning and came across a portable VMS saying "STOP THE SPREAD" / "STAY HOME" This is combined with the governor saying he may issue a stay at home order today.
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All the signs in South Carolina on I-77, I-26, and I-95 were displaying basically the same "stay home" message.
I don't think it's necessary. It's a Delaware observation.I was driving on US-13 in North Dover this morning and came across a portable VMS saying "STOP THE SPREAD" / "STAY HOME" This is combined with the governor saying he may issue a stay at home order today.
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I was going to move these to the coronavirus thread except I do not have the power as a regional moderator to merge it in there. -Mark
I don't think it's necessary. It's a Delaware observation.I was driving on US-13 in North Dover this morning and came across a portable VMS saying "STOP THE SPREAD" / "STAY HOME" This is combined with the governor saying he may issue a stay at home order today.
(this might be considered off topic)
I was going to move these to the coronavirus thread except I do not have the power as a regional moderator to merge it in there. -Mark
So that would mean that vehicles without ET wouldn't get tolled.They don't have readers right now and that isn't stopping them.It would be really interesting if this random event causes the entire nation to end up AET in 2020 and they don't go back.Every toll booth would need an optical license plate reader first.
At the state's three toll plazas, there will be no toll collectors working to collect cash payments. All traffic will be directed through the EZPass lanes and motorists without EZPass will receive a bill in the mail for the toll with no penalty or processing fee. The Route 896 southbound ramp to I-95 southbound will temporarily close due to the road configuration that does not permit access to the EZPass lanes.
Even "less than 20% ... or $2 whichever is greater" can still be a massive increase for some of the small amounts on ticket systems. Between exits 44 and 45 on the Thruway is only 20 cents each way, and a lot of traffic goes between those two exits because they connect Canandaigua Lake to Rochester via I-490. Some of that traffic only makes the trip a few times a year, and doesn't use the Thruway for much else, making an E-ZPass account difficult to justify. That would still be quite the increase.
In the good old days, you had the cash rate, and an E-ZPass discount. No added fees at all. Then we started getting AET and its associated fees (usually in addition to higher base tolls) and things like transponder discrimination. Even if this were all fixed, I still wouldn't like bill by mail because of the many horror stories with people not receiving the first bill until such point that a ton of late fees have been added. No thanks. I'll stick to E-ZPass and places where I can by cash or credit card at a booth. Doing otherwise is just too risky and involves lots of price gouging.
My idea of "less than 20% ... or $2 whichever is greater" is essentially to replicate the E-Z pass discount froom the cash rate, but from the perspective of EZ-Pass being the base rate and the cash charge being the premium. If "less than 20% ... or $2 whichever is greater" is still too high, then it can be further reduced.
But we should absolutely get rid of the fines that currently exist on many all-electronic roads that REQUIRE transponders and charge a fine in the $200 range for driving it without the transponder. Every road should be AET, with an appropriate discount for transponders, and normal fees for everyone else. I would also prohibit any monthly charge on transponders and require that the full costs of administration of the toll roads be paid for by regular tolls that are based on usage, not monthly charges simply for having the device.
Are the costs of running AET higher than the costs of employing toll takers? I don't believe they are.
I think you'll find that just about any flat amount is a lot on some of the ticket system tolls. My parents, for example, only drive the Thruway four times a year (round trip) between Canandaigua and Victor, which is 20 cents each way. Your "less than 20% ... or $2 whichever is greater" would still allow a surcharge per trip that's greater than the amount my parents pay annually in tolls!Even "less than 20% ... or $2 whichever is greater" can still be a massive increase for some of the small amounts on ticket systems. Between exits 44 and 45 on the Thruway is only 20 cents each way, and a lot of traffic goes between those two exits because they connect Canandaigua Lake to Rochester via I-490. Some of that traffic only makes the trip a few times a year, and doesn't use the Thruway for much else, making an E-ZPass account difficult to justify. That would still be quite the increase.
In the good old days, you had the cash rate, and an E-ZPass discount. No added fees at all. Then we started getting AET and its associated fees (usually in addition to higher base tolls) and things like transponder discrimination. Even if this were all fixed, I still wouldn't like bill by mail because of the many horror stories with people not receiving the first bill until such point that a ton of late fees have been added. No thanks. I'll stick to E-ZPass and places where I can by cash or credit card at a booth. Doing otherwise is just too risky and involves lots of price gouging.
My idea of "less than 20% ... or $2 whichever is greater" is essentially to replicate the E-Z pass discount froom the cash rate, but from the perspective of EZ-Pass being the base rate and the cash charge being the premium. If "less than 20% ... or $2 whichever is greater" is still too high, then it can be further reduced.
But we should absolutely get rid of the fines that currently exist on many all-electronic roads that REQUIRE transponders and charge a fine in the $200 range for driving it without the transponder. Every road should be AET, with an appropriate discount for transponders, and normal fees for everyone else. I would also prohibit any monthly charge on transponders and require that the full costs of administration of the toll roads be paid for by regular tolls that are based on usage, not monthly charges simply for having the device.
Are the costs of running AET higher than the costs of employing toll takers? I don't believe they are.
My idea of "less than 20% ... or $2 whichever is greater" is essentially to replicate the E-Z pass discount froom the cash rate, but from the perspective of EZ-Pass being the base rate and the cash charge being the premium. If "less than 20% ... or $2 whichever is greater" is still too high, then it can be further reduced.
But we should absolutely get rid of the fines that currently exist on many all-electronic roads that REQUIRE transponders and charge a fine in the $200 range for driving it without the transponder. Every road should be AET, with an appropriate discount for transponders, and normal fees for everyone else. I would also prohibit any monthly charge on transponders and require that the full costs of administration of the toll roads be paid for by regular tolls that are based on usage, not monthly charges simply for having the device.
Are the costs of running AET higher than the costs of employing toll takers? I don't believe they are.
AET is much, much less expensive for toll road operators, especially when the cost of crashes approaching toll plazas, fuel burned and tailpipe emissions are considered - and the cost of handling, counting, transporting, securing and accounting for large sums of cash are accounted for.
I agree that excessive charges should not be required of drivers without transponders. And that transponders should not be mandated. Ideally those extra charges should be high enough to encourage drivers to get that transponder.
Note that the toll lanes in Northern Virginia (95Express, 395Express and 495Express as well as I-66 inside the Beltway in the peak directions) currently require a transponder.
Wooohooo Looks like we are getting a Maryland/Delaware commuter-train connectionAbove-link fixed.
https://delawarebusinessnow.com/2020/04/delaware-legislators-offer-bill-aimed-at-getting-maryland-commuter-trains-to-Newark (https://delawarebusinessnow.com/2020/04/delaware-legislators-offer-bill-aimed-at-getting-maryland-commuter-trains-to-Newark)
My idea of "less than 20% ... or $2 whichever is greater" is essentially to replicate the E-Z pass discount froom the cash rate, but from the perspective of EZ-Pass being the base rate and the cash charge being the premium. If "less than 20% ... or $2 whichever is greater" is still too high, then it can be further reduced.
But we should absolutely get rid of the fines that currently exist on many all-electronic roads that REQUIRE transponders and charge a fine in the $200 range for driving it without the transponder. Every road should be AET, with an appropriate discount for transponders, and normal fees for everyone else. I would also prohibit any monthly charge on transponders and require that the full costs of administration of the toll roads be paid for by regular tolls that are based on usage, not monthly charges simply for having the device.
Are the costs of running AET higher than the costs of employing toll takers? I don't believe they are.
AET is much, much less expensive for toll road operators, especially when the cost of crashes approaching toll plazas, fuel burned and tailpipe emissions are considered - and the cost of handling, counting, transporting, securing and accounting for large sums of cash are accounted for.
I agree that excessive charges should not be required of drivers without transponders. And that transponders should not be mandated. Ideally those extra charges should be high enough to encourage drivers to get that transponder.
Note that the toll lanes in Northern Virginia (95Express, 395Express and 495Express as well as I-66 inside the Beltway in the peak directions) currently require a transponder.
I agree. I have an EZ-Pass to save time and to take advantage of certain local discounts. (For the most part, I don't use the local toll facilities in the DC area, but mostly go through toll barriers on the way to Philly and NYC.) But, if I take a trip to Florida or some other state outside of the EZ-Pass region, it would be nice to be able to just simply drive and pay a nominal extra charge for the tolls, instead of the hassle involved in getting a new transponder for an area that I don't really frequent. And some fair system to account for rental cars.
I see the construction for the 3rd lane on De-1 is underway, however what are they doing on De-1 by tybouts corner? Are they adding the 4th lane up to the bridge as well?Unfortunately, DelDOT's website isn't as good as it used to be with posting comprehensive project updates, but they hint at a widening between DE-273 and the Roth Bridge (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T200511001#project-details1|travel-tab3). Whether that means they are actually widening on the Roth Bridge itself, I'm not sure.
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Alot of construction projects have taken place. They added a 3rd lane on 273 by Red Mill Rd.I see the construction for the 3rd lane on De-1 is underway, however what are they doing on De-1 by tybouts corner? Are they adding the 4th lane up to the bridge as well?Unfortunately, DelDOT's website isn't as good as it used to be with posting comprehensive project updates, but they hint at a widening between DE-273 and the Roth Bridge (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T200511001#project-details1|travel-tab3). Whether that means they are actually widening on the Roth Bridge itself, I'm not sure.
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That said, since the quarantine started, I haven't been in New Castle County. I've just stuck to Kent and Sussex.
I see the construction for the 3rd lane on De-1 is underway, however what are they doing on De-1 by tybouts corner? Are they adding the 4th lane up to the bridge as well?Unfortunately, DelDOT's website isn't as good as it used to be with posting comprehensive project updates, but they hint at a widening between DE-273 and the Roth Bridge (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T200511001#project-details1|travel-tab3). Whether that means they are actually widening on the Roth Bridge itself, I'm not sure.
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Salem church bridge is now closed, so I assume this is the widening & reconstruction project.
Oh ok they are rebuilding Chapman bridge not the Salem bridge, got it.I see the construction for the 3rd lane on De-1 is underway, however what are they doing on De-1 by tybouts corner? Are they adding the 4th lane up to the bridge as well?Unfortunately, DelDOT's website isn't as good as it used to be with posting comprehensive project updates, but they hint at a widening between DE-273 and the Roth Bridge (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T200511001#project-details1|travel-tab3). Whether that means they are actually widening on the Roth Bridge itself, I'm not sure.
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Their stated intention for the Roth Bridge was to simply restripe it since they left themselves the extra shoulder space when they built it originally. Unfortunately they've removed most of the information from the last attempt they made at getting this widening project off the ground, so we'll have to wait until they get a public workshop together for this. Hopefully the newer iteration of work includes some better interchange redesigns, the SR 273 one touched off a lot of controversy with Christiana with the proposed closure of SR 7, and the US 13 one seemed like it was missing movements and still not giving enough priority to SR 1 SB in terms of # of lanes.Salem church bridge is now closed, so I assume this is the widening & reconstruction project.
Just some deck repairs ahead of the Chapman Road bridge rebuild, nothing crazy.
https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8086&type=Traffic (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8086&type=Traffic)
Hopefully the newer iteration of work includes some better interchange redesigns, the SR 273 one touched off a lot of controversy with Christiana with the proposed closure of SR 7, and the US 13 one seemed like it was missing movements and still not giving enough priority to SR 1 SB in terms of # of lanes.Funny thing is, on that DE-1/US-13 interchange one (Exit 156 trumpet interchange), I mentioned it during a workshop in Newark a few years back. As it turns out, in light traffic, DE-1 SB through traffic in that interchange has enough time to redistribute across the 3 lanes, despite the far right lane (originally the right lane of 2 lanes coming from the north into that ramp) ending. What's annoying, though, is that people tend to move a little too soon - before merging in with US-13 traffic - and it disrupts traffic flow. Last time I was driving through there, an 18-wheeler cut me off a little too soon and caused me to drop from 75 to 60.
I believe the plans for 273 interchange were picked. They chose a roundabout/exit lane for the locals in the area to exit from route 7 to 273.
They seem to be adding a 3rd lane on the Tybouts curve NB & SB that will be interesting to see.
Funny thing is, on that DE-1/US-13 interchange one (Exit 156 trumpet interchange), I mentioned it during a workshop in Newark a few years back. As it turns out, in light traffic, DE-1 SB through traffic in that interchange has enough time to redistribute across the 3 lanes, despite the far right lane (originally the right lane of 2 lanes coming from the north into that ramp) ending. What's annoying, though, is that people tend to move a little too soon - before merging in with US-13 traffic - and it disrupts traffic flow. Last time I was driving through there, an 18-wheeler cut me off a little too soon and caused me to drop from 75 to 60.
Uhh bro you might want go to drive over on De-1 They have barriers set up from the 273 exit all the way to the De-1 Us-13 merge. They are adding a 3rd lane all the way.I believe the plans for 273 interchange were picked. They chose a roundabout/exit lane for the locals in the area to exit from route 7 to 273.
I don't believe that roundabout was their final choice last time this project came up, I think the idea of throwing a roundabout on a high-speed ramp with a tendency to back up all the way to the mainline was pretty resoundingly balked at. Regardless I'm fairly certain they're coming back with fresh / refined alternatives since the last time this project was seriously evaluated was the better part of a decade ago.They seem to be adding a 3rd lane on the Tybouts curve NB & SB that will be interesting to see.
You mean between SR 273 and US 40? All they're working on right now is adding an auxiliary lane for SB SR 1 to mirror the northbound one while they figure out what they want to do with widening the entire corridor.Funny thing is, on that DE-1/US-13 interchange one (Exit 156 trumpet interchange), I mentioned it during a workshop in Newark a few years back. As it turns out, in light traffic, DE-1 SB through traffic in that interchange has enough time to redistribute across the 3 lanes, despite the far right lane (originally the right lane of 2 lanes coming from the north into that ramp) ending. What's annoying, though, is that people tend to move a little too soon - before merging in with US-13 traffic - and it disrupts traffic flow. Last time I was driving through there, an 18-wheeler cut me off a little too soon and caused me to drop from 75 to 60.
Even if it's fine during light traffic, the fact that US 13 gets favored through that merge despite carrying less than half the traffic SR 1 carries (if DelDOT's traffic counts page is to be believed) is baffling.
Uhh bro you might want go to drive over on De-1 They have barriers set up from the 273 exit all the way to the De-1 Us-13 merge. They are adding a 3rd lane all the way.I believe the plans for 273 interchange were picked. They chose a roundabout/exit lane for the locals in the area to exit from route 7 to 273.
I don't believe that roundabout was their final choice last time this project came up, I think the idea of throwing a roundabout on a high-speed ramp with a tendency to back up all the way to the mainline was pretty resoundingly balked at. Regardless I'm fairly certain they're coming back with fresh / refined alternatives since the last time this project was seriously evaluated was the better part of a decade ago.They seem to be adding a 3rd lane on the Tybouts curve NB & SB that will be interesting to see.
You mean between SR 273 and US 40? All they're working on right now is adding an auxiliary lane for SB SR 1 to mirror the northbound one while they figure out what they want to do with widening the entire corridor.Funny thing is, on that DE-1/US-13 interchange one (Exit 156 trumpet interchange), I mentioned it during a workshop in Newark a few years back. As it turns out, in light traffic, DE-1 SB through traffic in that interchange has enough time to redistribute across the 3 lanes, despite the far right lane (originally the right lane of 2 lanes coming from the north into that ramp) ending. What's annoying, though, is that people tend to move a little too soon - before merging in with US-13 traffic - and it disrupts traffic flow. Last time I was driving through there, an 18-wheeler cut me off a little too soon and caused me to drop from 75 to 60.
Even if it's fine during light traffic, the fact that US 13 gets favored through that merge despite carrying less than half the traffic SR 1 carries (if DelDOT's traffic counts page is to be believed) is baffling.
They also have the median of Us-13 blocked off & preparing the dirt. With a “road closed sign”
Same for the NB side & Curve.
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Any word on when the construction on the Route 1 bridge over the Rehoboth canal will be done and it becomes 4 lanes again?Project listing says late spring 2020, so they've gotta be wrapping up soon.
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DelDOT decided to pave over SR 1 from the Appoquinimink River to Exit 119 in Smyrna because of ride quality issues..? I guess? I'm kinda surprised they chose this method, SR 896's Glasgow Bypass had even worse ride quality issue that were solved with a good grinding.
Just to clarify, that's not "internal correspondence." Those are bidder questions that are revealed to all bidders and therefore part of what's available to the public.
I did some digging for the bid for this project and came across a Q&A doc with internal correspondence between the contractor and DelDOT. The contractor asked a couple questions to the effect of "is this going to make any difference at all?" with DelDOT replying with the government equivalent of "lol idk." Can't wait for the subbase to fall apart beneath the flimsy layer of asphalt and turn the road into a minefield.
http://contracts.delaware.gov/contracts_detail.asp?i=5784 (http://contracts.delaware.gov/contracts_detail.asp?i=5784)
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Project listing says late spring 2020, so they've gotta be wrapping up soon.
Any word on when the construction on the Route 1 bridge over the Rehoboth canal will be done and it becomes 4 lanes again?When they make the rest of the road from Tybouts to the bridge 4 lanes.
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Thanks for the documents. Yea they might just be doing shoulder improvements, because they went crazy on barriers.Uhh bro you might want go to drive over on De-1 They have barriers set up from the 273 exit all the way to the De-1 Us-13 merge. They are adding a 3rd lane all the way.I believe the plans for 273 interchange were picked. They chose a roundabout/exit lane for the locals in the area to exit from route 7 to 273.
I don't believe that roundabout was their final choice last time this project came up, I think the idea of throwing a roundabout on a high-speed ramp with a tendency to back up all the way to the mainline was pretty resoundingly balked at. Regardless I'm fairly certain they're coming back with fresh / refined alternatives since the last time this project was seriously evaluated was the better part of a decade ago.They seem to be adding a 3rd lane on the Tybouts curve NB & SB that will be interesting to see.
You mean between SR 273 and US 40? All they're working on right now is adding an auxiliary lane for SB SR 1 to mirror the northbound one while they figure out what they want to do with widening the entire corridor.Funny thing is, on that DE-1/US-13 interchange one (Exit 156 trumpet interchange), I mentioned it during a workshop in Newark a few years back. As it turns out, in light traffic, DE-1 SB through traffic in that interchange has enough time to redistribute across the 3 lanes, despite the far right lane (originally the right lane of 2 lanes coming from the north into that ramp) ending. What's annoying, though, is that people tend to move a little too soon - before merging in with US-13 traffic - and it disrupts traffic flow. Last time I was driving through there, an 18-wheeler cut me off a little too soon and caused me to drop from 75 to 60.
Even if it's fine during light traffic, the fact that US 13 gets favored through that merge despite carrying less than half the traffic SR 1 carries (if DelDOT's traffic counts page is to be believed) is baffling.
They also have the median of Us-13 blocked off & preparing the dirt. With a “road closed sign”
Same for the NB side & Curve.
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No, they're not.
Project Plans (http://gssdocs.deldot.delaware.gov/bids/T201811001%20-%20Plans.pdf)
Project Listing (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201811001)
DelDOT decided to pave over SR 1 from the Appoquinimink River to Exit 119 in Smyrna because of ride quality issues..? I guess? I'm kinda surprised they chose this method, SR 896's Glasgow Bypass had even worse ride quality issue that were solved with a good grinding.I assume relaying concrete was not easy since they decided to pave it.
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I did some digging for the bid for this project and came across a Q&A doc with internal correspondence between the contractor and DelDOT. The contractor asked a couple questions to the effect of "is this going to make any difference at all?" with DelDOT replying with the government equivalent of "lol idk." Can't wait for the subbase to fall apart beneath the flimsy layer of asphalt and turn the road into a minefield.
http://contracts.delaware.gov/contracts_detail.asp?i=5784 (http://contracts.delaware.gov/contracts_detail.asp?i=5784)
(https://image.prntscr.com/image/3Vt4sxXkQlO2n65OjmsqZw.png)Any word on when the construction on the Route 1 bridge over the Rehoboth canal will be done and it becomes 4 lanes again?Project listing says late spring 2020, so they've gotta be wrapping up soon.
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Just to clarify, that's not "internal correspondence." Those are bidder questions that are revealed to all bidders and therefore part of what's available to the public.Oops you're right, that would explain the almost duplicate questions!
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Look at Wilmington’s new baby.
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Look at Wilmington’s new baby.
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Too bad you couldn't rotate it 90 degrees left. My tablet and maybe others' won't let me rotate the tablet without the picture rotating with it.
Is that the renovated Amtrak parking garage on the south side of the stone trestle?
They havDelDOT decided to pave over SR 1 from the Appoquinimink River to Exit 119 in Smyrna because of ride quality issues..? I guess? I'm kinda surprised they chose this method, SR 896's Glasgow Bypass had even worse ride quality issue that were solved with a good grinding.
The grinding they did earlier this year was AWFUL...it made the ride rougher than before...not from a bump, but it feels like you're riding on asphalt-milled pavement. I guess I'm surprised they didn't try a finer grinding, but something needs to be done.
If I look on DelDOT's toll rates website, there are 2 different rates for Exit 119A and 119B Southbound on DE 1. Both for Cash and EZPass, 119B is 25 cents higher. Is there an actual toll collection point on that ramp? I know 114 has a toll collection point.
Any word on when the construction on the Route 1 bridge over the Rehoboth canal will be done and it becomes 4 lanes again?Later than you expected to get this, but I went down to the beach today and DE-1 was back to its full width. It looked like there were some finishing touches being put in.
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Any word on when the construction on the Route 1 bridge over the Rehoboth canal will be done and it becomes 4 lanes again?Later than you expected to get this, but I went down to the beach today and DE-1 was back to its full width. It looked like there were some finishing touches being put in.
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200612/6e2bb41d97a726d49feeb588e8b6374c.jpg)An awful one - or is it the spacing. Is that a current photo? That looks like the entrance from 141. Looking at the Streetview image, the different sign shown on that gantry in the October 2019 capture looks better and in perfectly good condition. Was the "Exit Only" on that sign not applicable anymore - It looks like it still is, but that might be temporary for the construction.
What font is this? This isn’t the regular deldot font.
Yup it is 141 295 Exit.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200612/6e2bb41d97a726d49feeb588e8b6374c.jpg)An awful one - or is it the spacing. Is that a current photo? That looks like the entrance from 141. Looking at the Streetview image, the different sign shown on that gantry in the October 2019 capture looks better and in perfectly good condition. Was the "Exit Only" on that sign not applicable anymore - It looks like it still is, but that might be temporary for the construction.
What font is this? This isn’t the regular deldot font.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6991075,-75.6034972,3a,76.5y,177.24h,85.95t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDccnwp4wN7pX-od4AJG0Ug!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DDccnwp4wN7pX-od4AJG0Ug%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D56.655712%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6991075,-75.6034972,3a,76.5y,177.24h,85.95t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDccnwp4wN7pX-od4AJG0Ug!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DDccnwp4wN7pX-od4AJG0Ug%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D56.655712%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
It’s not great but it’s better than Clearview (I’m biased there). I saw a similar font near the Birmingham area last year. I don’t know why they decided to use this font (in Alabama or Delaware).Yup it is 141 295 Exit.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200612/6e2bb41d97a726d49feeb588e8b6374c.jpg)An awful one - or is it the spacing. Is that a current photo? That looks like the entrance from 141. Looking at the Streetview image, the different sign shown on that gantry in the October 2019 capture looks better and in perfectly good condition. Was the "Exit Only" on that sign not applicable anymore - It looks like it still is, but that might be temporary for the construction.
What font is this? This isn’t the regular deldot font.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6991075,-75.6034972,3a,76.5y,177.24h,85.95t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDccnwp4wN7pX-od4AJG0Ug!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DDccnwp4wN7pX-od4AJG0Ug%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D56.655712%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6991075,-75.6034972,3a,76.5y,177.24h,85.95t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDccnwp4wN7pX-od4AJG0Ug!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DDccnwp4wN7pX-od4AJG0Ug%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D56.655712%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
Alot of construction is currently going on in that area so im not sure why they changed a already new sign again.
But that font is really ugly, Just as bad as clearview.
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200612/6e2bb41d97a726d49feeb588e8b6374c.jpg)That looks so childish looking. I HATE it.
What font is this? This isn’t the regular deldot font.
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It’s not great but it’s better than Clearview (I’m biased there). I saw a similar font near the Birmingham area last year. I don’t know why they decided to use this font (in Alabama or Delaware).Yup it is 141 295 Exit.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200612/6e2bb41d97a726d49feeb588e8b6374c.jpg)An awful one - or is it the spacing. Is that a current photo? That looks like the entrance from 141. Looking at the Streetview image, the different sign shown on that gantry in the October 2019 capture looks better and in perfectly good condition. Was the "Exit Only" on that sign not applicable anymore - It looks like it still is, but that might be temporary for the construction.
What font is this? This isn’t the regular deldot font.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6991075,-75.6034972,3a,76.5y,177.24h,85.95t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDccnwp4wN7pX-od4AJG0Ug!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DDccnwp4wN7pX-od4AJG0Ug%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D56.655712%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6991075,-75.6034972,3a,76.5y,177.24h,85.95t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sDccnwp4wN7pX-od4AJG0Ug!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DDccnwp4wN7pX-od4AJG0Ug%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D56.655712%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
Alot of construction is currently going on in that area so im not sure why they changed a already new sign again.
But that font is really ugly, Just as bad as clearview.
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200612/6e2bb41d97a726d49feeb588e8b6374c.jpg)it is, actually - just done completely wrong.
What font is this? This isn’t the regular deldot font.
which is why I always comment on plans to only specify the upper case text height.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200612/6e2bb41d97a726d49feeb588e8b6374c.jpg)it is, actually - just done completely wrong.
What font is this? This isn’t the regular deldot font.
the definitions for the typefaces specify that lowercase letters are 75% the height of uppercase characters. this means that a lowercase "x" is 75% the height of an uppercase "X" - and also means that a lowercase "b" is the SAME height as an uppercase "B." in computer terms, they're the same font size.
unfortunately, a common error made by sign designers is to misinterpret that to mean "lowercase letters should be 75% of the type size used for uppercase letters" - that is, in computer terms, using a smaller font size for lowercase letters.
It Ends Up Looking Like This.
Alps you work in deldot? Will you get this sign fixed.which is why I always comment on plans to only specify the upper case text height.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200612/6e2bb41d97a726d49feeb588e8b6374c.jpg)it is, actually - just done completely wrong.
What font is this? This isn’t the regular deldot font.
the definitions for the typefaces specify that lowercase letters are 75% the height of uppercase characters. this means that a lowercase "x" is 75% the height of an uppercase "X" - and also means that a lowercase "b" is the SAME height as an uppercase "B." in computer terms, they're the same font size.
unfortunately, a common error made by sign designers is to misinterpret that to mean "lowercase letters should be 75% of the type size used for uppercase letters" - that is, in computer terms, using a smaller font size for lowercase letters.
It Ends Up Looking Like This.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200612/6e2bb41d97a726d49feeb588e8b6374c.jpg)it is, actually - just done completely wrong.
What font is this? This isn’t the regular deldot font.
the definitions for the typefaces specify that lowercase letters are 75% the height of uppercase characters. this means that a lowercase "x" is 75% the height of an uppercase "X" - and also means that a lowercase "b" is the SAME height as an uppercase "B." in computer terms, they're the same font size.
unfortunately, a common error made by sign designers is to misinterpret that to mean "lowercase letters should be 75% of the type size used for uppercase letters" - that is, in computer terms, using a smaller font size for lowercase letters.
It Ends Up Looking Like This.
Get ready for some more poorly designed replace in kind sign installs on SR 141 at I-95. The one Tonytone posted above was manufactured exactly as designed as well. :banghead: Additional signs will be added be added at the split for Airport Road:One of your pics is broken Alex.
(http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/sr-141-at-i-095-sign-plans-1.jpg) (http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/sr-141-at-i-095-sign-plans-1.jpg)
Most guide signs on SR 141 between I-95 and SR 4 will be replaced with the same improper font sizing, and no more advance sign for SR 62 (https://www.aaroads.com/de/141/de-141-n-exit-005-01.jpg):
(http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/sr-141-at-i-095-sign-plans-2.jpg) (http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/sr-141-at-i-095-sign-plans-2.jpg)
More replace in kind nonsense on the interchange sequence sign because most people in Delaware use route numbers and not road names. :eyebrow: At least the MUST EXIT nomenclature finally goes away:
(http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/sr-141-at-i-095-sign-plans-3.jpg) (http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/sr-141-at-i-095-sign-plans-3.jpg)
And those superfluous stand alone shields (https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/de-141-archive-north/de-141_nb_exit_003_29.jpg) for U.S. 202 (https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/de-141-archive-north/de-141_nb_exit_003_32.jpg) posted before construction began make an inane return:
(http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/sr-141-at-i-095-sign-plans-4.jpg) (http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/sr-141-at-i-095-sign-plans-4.jpg) (http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/sr-141-at-i-095-sign-plans-5.jpg) (http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/sr-141-at-i-095-sign-plans-5.jpg)
More Font Fun:
(http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/sr-141-at-i-095-sign-plans-6.jpg) (http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/sr-141-at-i-095-sign-plans-6.jpg) (http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/sr-141-at-i-095-sign-plans-7.jpg) (http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/sr-141-at-i-095-sign-plans-7.jpg)
And an overhaul of the signs along Interstate 95 southbound for SR 141U.S. 202 south
APL's and one less sign bridge. US 202 eliminated completely
(http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/i-095-at-sr-141-sign-plans-1.jpg) (http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/i-095-at-sr-141-sign-plans-1.jpg)
Another sign bridge removed. The welcome center sign is tweaked, copied and installed at ground level to the left and right. Is that useful? :hmmm: Also the Delaware Turnpike sign will be replicated and posted at ground level further southbound.
(http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/i-095-at-sr-141-sign-plans-2.jpg) (http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/i-095-at-sr-141-sign-plans-2.jpg)
Another interchange sequence sign for I-95 goes away. TO U.S. 13 is here to stay for SR 141 south.
(http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/i-095-at-sr-141-sign-plans-3.jpg) (http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/i-095-at-sr-141-sign-plans-3.jpg)
I recall when this sign went up, and I thought, U.S. 202 is finally getting respect. So much for that:
(http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/i-095-at-sr-141-sign-plans-4.jpg) (http://www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/i-095-at-sr-141-sign-plans-4.jpg)
Spent way to much time composing this post, but my home state of Delaware does that to me sometimes (takes up too much of my attention). :crazy:
The sign plan screen shots were made from a 955 page document (http://gssdocs.deldot.delaware.gov/bids/T201109001%20-%20Plans.pdf) for the project.
What you see above is very typical, and misunderstood by the best of people.
When signs are made, often times it's not the sign maker at fault. It's the fault of the person/people at the transportation department or the contractor who designed the signs. These plans typically undergo many reviews before approved.
The shop where the sign is made is to make the sign to specifications of what they're told. Frankly, it's not their job to argue with their customers, who in this case are the licensed engineers on the job.
What you see above is very typical, and misunderstood by the best of people.For a plan set as comprehensive as this, it's the designer. Sometimes the designer has to correct the agency on this, too. But you see what happens when the best of intentions goes astray.
When signs are made, often times it's not the sign maker at fault. It's the fault of the person/people at the transportation department or the contractor who designed the signs. These plans typically undergo many reviews before approved.
The shop where the sign is made is to make the sign to specifications of what they're told. Frankly, it's not their job to argue with their customers, who in this case are the licensed engineers on the job.
$143 million I-95-896 interchange project gets $57 million fed grant that moves up construction date to fall 2022
Delaware’s congressional delegation announced a nearly $57 million grant from the U.S. Department of Transportation to the Delaware Department of Transportation for the construction of a redesigned interchange at I-95 and State Route 896. The new interchange will improve safety and reduce congestion by adding two flyovers, realigning existing ramps, and addressing other deficiencies with the current roadway geometry.
At present, 60 percent of vehicles on I-95 traveling southbound exit at State Route 896, creating congestion and safety issues.
This project will create a dedicated exit ramp for southbound 896 for motorists off of I-95, as well as a dedicated on-ramp from 896 to northbound I-95. The total project cost is $143 million, and with this grant award, construction will now begin in the fall of 2022, two years earlier than expected.
The funding for this project comes from the U.S. DOT’s Nationally Significant Freight and Highway Projects Program, or INFRA Grants program.
“As the leading Democrat on the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, one of my top priorities is to improve our nation’s transportation systems so that our drivers, bicyclists and pedestrians do not put their lives at risk simply by using our roadways. This major grant of federal funding will go a long way to improve safety and, ultimately, save lives along the I-95 corridor in Delaware. By reducing traffic and easing congestion, this project will greatly reduce fatalities and serious injuries while better facilitating commerce in our state. These safety improvements will spur economic growth and less congestion will enable greater access to the City of Newark, the University of Delaware and its blossoming STAR Campus,” Senator Tom Carper said.
“This funding and this project are really about the safety of Delaware commuters, including students who use this interchange almost every day. Any parent who uses this intersection or has kids who frequently drive toandfrom GlasgowHigh School, NewarkHigh School, or other schools farther down 896,knows that improving the safety and capacity of this interchange is long overdue,” said Sen. Chris Coons.“As a member of the Appropriations Committee, I fought hard to secure this funding, and I’m excited that these long-awaitedimprovementswill soon be underway to help ourgrowing Newark and Middletown communitiesstay safe on the road.”
“Improving the safety of the I-95 and 896 interchange has been a priority for our state for a long time now. This INFRA Grant from the Department of Transportation means that we can finally address the safety and capacity issues on 896,” said Congresswoman Lisa Blunt Rochester. “I want to thank DelDOT for their work in securing the grant and spearheading the project, Senator Carper, who sits on the Environment and Public Works Committee, and Senator Coons, who sits on the Appropriations Committee, for their tireless efforts on behalf of all Delawareans, and the Federal Department of Transportation for recognizing the importance of this project for Delaware.”
Additional information can be found on the DelDOT project page (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201609002).
https://delawarebusinessnow.com/2020/06/143-million-i-95-896-interchange-project-gets-57-million-fed-grant-that-moves-up-construction-date-to-fall-2022/Holy I didnt think it would get picked up so soon!Quote$143 million I-95-896 interchange project gets $57 million fed grant that moves up construction date to fall 2022
Delaware’s congressional delegation announced a nearly $57 million grant from the U.S. Department of Transportation to the Delaware Department of Transportation for the construction of a redesigned interchange at I-95 and State Route 896. The new interchange will improve safety and reduce congestion by adding two flyovers, realigning existing ramps, and addressing other deficiencies with the current roadway geometry.
At present, 60 percent of vehicles on I-95 traveling southbound exit at State Route 896, creating congestion and safety issues.
This project will create a dedicated exit ramp for southbound 896 for motorists off of I-95, as well as a dedicated on-ramp from 896 to northbound I-95. The total project cost is $143 million, and with this grant award, construction will now begin in the fall of 2022, two years earlier than expected.
The funding for this project comes from the U.S. DOT’s Nationally Significant Freight and Highway Projects Program, or INFRA Grants program.
“As the leading Democrat on the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, one of my top priorities is to improve our nation’s transportation systems so that our drivers, bicyclists and pedestrians do not put their lives at risk simply by using our roadways. This major grant of federal funding will go a long way to improve safety and, ultimately, save lives along the I-95 corridor in Delaware. By reducing traffic and easing congestion, this project will greatly reduce fatalities and serious injuries while better facilitating commerce in our state. These safety improvements will spur economic growth and less congestion will enable greater access to the City of Newark, the University of Delaware and its blossoming STAR Campus,” Senator Tom Carper said.
“This funding and this project are really about the safety of Delaware commuters, including students who use this interchange almost every day. Any parent who uses this intersection or has kids who frequently drive toandfrom GlasgowHigh School, NewarkHigh School, or other schools farther down 896,knows that improving the safety and capacity of this interchange is long overdue,” said Sen. Chris Coons.“As a member of the Appropriations Committee, I fought hard to secure this funding, and I’m excited that these long-awaitedimprovementswill soon be underway to help ourgrowing Newark and Middletown communitiesstay safe on the road.”
“Improving the safety of the I-95 and 896 interchange has been a priority for our state for a long time now. This INFRA Grant from the Department of Transportation means that we can finally address the safety and capacity issues on 896,” said Congresswoman Lisa Blunt Rochester. “I want to thank DelDOT for their work in securing the grant and spearheading the project, Senator Carper, who sits on the Environment and Public Works Committee, and Senator Coons, who sits on the Appropriations Committee, for their tireless efforts on behalf of all Delawareans, and the Federal Department of Transportation for recognizing the importance of this project for Delaware.”
Additional information can be found on the DelDOT project page (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201609002).
At present, 60 percent of vehicles on I-95 traveling southbound exit at State Route 896, creating congestion and safety issues.
If that damn toll was past the elkton-newark road exit. We would see less traffic on. 896.QuoteAt present, 60 percent of vehicles on I-95 traveling southbound exit at State Route 896, creating congestion and safety issues.
I never realized that much traffic percentage-wise was exiting here. I guess between shunpikers and in-state traffic not continuing into Maryland, it adds up pretty fast :-o
That doesn't sound accurate at all.QuoteAt present, 60 percent of vehicles on I-95 traveling southbound exit at State Route 896, creating congestion and safety issues.
I never realized that much traffic percentage-wise was exiting here. I guess between shunpikers and in-state traffic not continuing into Maryland, it adds up pretty fast :-o
That doesn't sound accurate at all.QuoteAt present, 60 percent of vehicles on I-95 traveling southbound exit at State Route 896, creating congestion and safety issues.
I never realized that much traffic percentage-wise was exiting here. I guess between shunpikers and in-state traffic not continuing into Maryland, it adds up pretty fast :-o
That doesn't sound accurate at all.QuoteAt present, 60 percent of vehicles on I-95 traveling southbound exit at State Route 896, creating congestion and safety issues.
I never realized that much traffic percentage-wise was exiting here. I guess between shunpikers and in-state traffic not continuing into Maryland, it adds up pretty fast :-o
Exactly my thought too.
If I were to somehow validate that number, I would say 60% of I-95's traffic exits AT RUSH HOUR. And due to the significant congestion at that time in the right lane, that would probably be what's happening.
But at all other times? 60% of the traffic exiting to 2, 25 mph ramps with only 40% of the traffic staying on 4 lanes of I-95? Not normal and not possible.
Honestly, I'm surprised DelDOT isn't considering adding tolls to these ramps. Sure, there would be a cascading issue where some traffic will use interchanges 3 or 4 instead, but for those trying to skip the mainline toll, it's a greater inconvenience. It also helps to fight the cost of sprawl, where in-state residents living off of 896/301 but working in Wilmington or points north are doing so due to cheaper land/housing prices, and thus requiring wider roads to accommodate them.
Related to the earlier Newark signage discussion, these SR 2 shields at Apple Road and SR 896 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6773704,-75.7617594,3a,39.5y,335h,89.54t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sEupTNQ1WmFEo-5p4Sp7OZw!2e0!5s20190801T000000!7i16384!8i8192) went up sometime after SR 2 was truncated through Newark. It's interesting to see where Newark's remembering or forgetting about the changes that've been made through town.
(https://i.imgur.com/sIy3jHF.png)
I also need get down to the Ogletown Bypass at some point. The work down there at the intersection between SR 273 and Bala Road (the Red Mill Road connector) resulted in an additional eastbound lane being constructed through the intersection to tie into the SR 4 exit, but the updates that were made to the overhead signage for that exit are atrocious and I need to grab some pictures of them. For reference, this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6814605,-75.6993462,3a,75y,174.92h,81.65t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4ieDoNlzRnTVUtiPc2oI5g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) was the one that was updated.
https://delawarebusinessnow.com/2020/06/143-million-i-95-896-interchange-project-gets-57-million-fed-grant-that-moves-up-construction-date-to-fall-2022/Quote$143 million I-95-896 interchange project gets $57 million fed grant that moves up construction date to fall 2022
Delaware’s congressional delegation announced a nearly $57 million grant from the U.S. Department of Transportation to the Delaware Department of Transportation for the construction of a redesigned interchange at I-95 and State Route 896. The new interchange will improve safety and reduce congestion by adding two flyovers, realigning existing ramps, and addressing other deficiencies with the current roadway geometry.
At present, 60 percent of vehicles on I-95 traveling southbound exit at State Route 896, creating congestion and safety issues.
This project will create a dedicated exit ramp for southbound 896 for motorists off of I-95, as well as a dedicated on-ramp from 896 to northbound I-95. The total project cost is $143 million, and with this grant award, construction will now begin in the fall of 2022, two years earlier than expected.
The funding for this project comes from the U.S. DOT’s Nationally Significant Freight and Highway Projects Program, or INFRA Grants program.
“As the leading Democrat on the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, one of my top priorities is to improve our nation’s transportation systems so that our drivers, bicyclists and pedestrians do not put their lives at risk simply by using our roadways. This major grant of federal funding will go a long way to improve safety and, ultimately, save lives along the I-95 corridor in Delaware. By reducing traffic and easing congestion, this project will greatly reduce fatalities and serious injuries while better facilitating commerce in our state. These safety improvements will spur economic growth and less congestion will enable greater access to the City of Newark, the University of Delaware and its blossoming STAR Campus,” Senator Tom Carper said.
“This funding and this project are really about the safety of Delaware commuters, including students who use this interchange almost every day. Any parent who uses this intersection or has kids who frequently drive toandfrom GlasgowHigh School, NewarkHigh School, or other schools farther down 896,knows that improving the safety and capacity of this interchange is long overdue,” said Sen. Chris Coons.“As a member of the Appropriations Committee, I fought hard to secure this funding, and I’m excited that these long-awaitedimprovementswill soon be underway to help ourgrowing Newark and Middletown communitiesstay safe on the road.”
“Improving the safety of the I-95 and 896 interchange has been a priority for our state for a long time now. This INFRA Grant from the Department of Transportation means that we can finally address the safety and capacity issues on 896,” said Congresswoman Lisa Blunt Rochester. “I want to thank DelDOT for their work in securing the grant and spearheading the project, Senator Carper, who sits on the Environment and Public Works Committee, and Senator Coons, who sits on the Appropriations Committee, for their tireless efforts on behalf of all Delawareans, and the Federal Department of Transportation for recognizing the importance of this project for Delaware.”
Additional information can be found on the DelDOT project page (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201609002).
Which alternative was chosen?
I wonder if they considered building Interchange 2 as an alternative to reducing traffic at Interchange 1.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200619/4aa5c551be64621c56cf175dbfaf7702.jpg)Related to the earlier Newark signage discussion, these SR 2 shields at Apple Road and SR 896 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6773704,-75.7617594,3a,39.5y,335h,89.54t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sEupTNQ1WmFEo-5p4Sp7OZw!2e0!5s20190801T000000!7i16384!8i8192) went up sometime after SR 2 was truncated through Newark. It's interesting to see where Newark's remembering or forgetting about the changes that've been made through town.
(https://i.imgur.com/sIy3jHF.png)
Last visit to Delaware, I saw those SR 2 shields on Apple Road and did a double take. :wow: Swung around in the parking lot and shot this:
(https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/newark-de/apple-rd-n-at-de-896.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/newark-de/apple-rd-n-at-de-896.jpg)
Photo from 01-02-19
While going through the remaining Newark (https://www.aaroads.com/delaware/newark/) photos shot two Christmas's ago that I never got around to posting on the site, I checked GSV on all of the other remaining SR 2 installs across the city (Academy Street, Chapel Street, College Avenue). All assemblies were replaced last year and now only show SR 273 with two exceptions. The shield assembly on Chapel Street south at E Main Street (https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/newark-de/chapel-st-s-at-main-st-3.jpg) and the one on Academy Street north at Main Street (https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/newark-de/academy-st-n-at-main-st-1.jpg) were both removed all together.I also need get down to the Ogletown Bypass at some point. The work down there at the intersection between SR 273 and Bala Road (the Red Mill Road connector) resulted in an additional eastbound lane being constructed through the intersection to tie into the SR 4 exit, but the updates that were made to the overhead signage for that exit are atrocious and I need to grab some pictures of them. For reference, this sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6814605,-75.6993462,3a,75y,174.92h,81.65t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4ieDoNlzRnTVUtiPc2oI5g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192) was the one that was updated.
*awaits with eager anticipation* :coffee:
That will be the third install of that sign since the bypass opened in 1997. The second (the one pictured above) was a carbon copy of the original:
(https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/de-273-archive/de-273_eb_at_de-004_21.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200619/4aa5c551be64621c56cf175dbfaf7702.jpg)
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We will like to thank Sally from Grade 2 for the winning sign design. Her creative art work will be on display for all to see for the next 15 years.
You'd think for that cost they could just eliminate the state line toll considering how much revenue it has generated over decades.
Put the toll at the Pa/De stateline. Lets become like NY.You'd think for that cost they could just eliminate the state line toll considering how much revenue it has generated over decades.
I do wonder how that interchange would function if the tolls were hypothetically removed. There'd probably still be a decent amount of southbound traffic on 95 exiting to head into Newark or down towards Glasgow/Middletown, but removing shunpikers from the equation might make a noticeable difference.
OTOH, exit 109 on the Maryland side seems to function just fine with shunpikers factored in (it was previously upgraded from a diamond to a full cloverleaf, if memory serves).
Of course, I don't think DelDOT would ever want to give up that cash cow, even if part of the need for the exit 1 upgrade stems from shunpiking.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200619/4aa5c551be64621c56cf175dbfaf7702.jpg)
DelDOT:QuoteWe will like to thank Sally from Grade 2 for the winning sign design. Her creative art work will be on display for all to see for the next 15 years.
I-95 NB being repaved again
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200619/4aa5c551be64621c56cf175dbfaf7702.jpg)
DelDOT:QuoteWe will like to thank Sally from Grade 2 for the winning sign design. Her creative art work will be on display for all to see for the next 15 years.
My dash cam footage doesn't do the heinousness much more justice, but the shield actually has a thin black outline around it...
Your pic is much better. Its not a bad copy. But they could have done it better.
(https://i.imgur.com/w80xtGk.png)I-95 NB being repaved again
What's the word on SB? That side was supposed to have a shoulder lane running to the SR 58 exit, but for something so unique to Delaware I've heard surprisingly little about it.
The Thruway uniformly allows people to exit before encountering a toll barrier; the only places a toll exists at the state line is when crossing in to NYC on a Port Authority bridge or tunnel... and half of those booths are on the NJ side!Put the toll at the Pa/De stateline. Lets become like NY.You'd think for that cost they could just eliminate the state line toll considering how much revenue it has generated over decades.
I do wonder how that interchange would function if the tolls were hypothetically removed. There'd probably still be a decent amount of southbound traffic on 95 exiting to head into Newark or down towards Glasgow/Middletown, but removing shunpikers from the equation might make a noticeable difference.
OTOH, exit 109 on the Maryland side seems to function just fine with shunpikers factored in (it was previously upgraded from a diamond to a full cloverleaf, if memory serves).
Of course, I don't think DelDOT would ever want to give up that cash cow, even if part of the need for the exit 1 upgrade stems from shunpiking.
Added bonus (Charge $20 per car).
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So the port authority charges tolls for maintenance on all the bridges & tunnels or does it go to NY as well?The Thruway uniformly allows people to exit before encountering a toll barrier; the only places a toll exists at the state line is when crossing in to NYC on a Port Authority bridge or tunnel... and half of those booths are on the NJ side!Put the toll at the Pa/De stateline. Lets become like NY.You'd think for that cost they could just eliminate the state line toll considering how much revenue it has generated over decades.
I do wonder how that interchange would function if the tolls were hypothetically removed. There'd probably still be a decent amount of southbound traffic on 95 exiting to head into Newark or down towards Glasgow/Middletown, but removing shunpikers from the equation might make a noticeable difference.
OTOH, exit 109 on the Maryland side seems to function just fine with shunpikers factored in (it was previously upgraded from a diamond to a full cloverleaf, if memory serves).
Of course, I don't think DelDOT would ever want to give up that cash cow, even if part of the need for the exit 1 upgrade stems from shunpiking.
Added bonus (Charge $20 per car).
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If DE were like NY, from Maryland to exit 1 would be free, and the toll would be after that.
I like how Florida does their Mast arms, however I think Delaware has them beat.The ones at DE-72 and Old Baltimore Pike freak me out a bit. A few coworkers and I were up there for work a few months ago and I remember us seeing the horizontal arm just slightly bouncing up and down.
Also noteworthy is that instead of partitioning traffic to I-95 northbound via SR 4 and southbound and all trucks via SR 279, a single I-95 trailblazer will direct motorists southward on MSR 279 to Exit 109 in MD...
At first I thought, SR 896 is getting truncated south of Elkton Road? But nope, its just an erroneous Begin shield added for SR 896 north. The begin shield for SR 279 will be replaced and include a South banner (no begin shield for SR 4 east though).
Good news everyone. The Christiana bridge in Wilmington was opened this weekend.That's this, right?
The construction of the parking lot & roads in the riverfront is about 80% complete with one intersection by the imax almost completed.
I can say this has made the riverfront look very good
CorrectGood news everyone. The Christiana bridge in Wilmington was opened this weekend.That's this, right?
The construction of the parking lot & roads in the riverfront is about 80% complete with one intersection by the imax almost completed.
I can say this has made the riverfront look very good
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7277684,-75.5612067,394m/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7277684,-75.5612067,394m/data=!3m1!1e3)
What is the project going on at I-95 just south of the junction with I-295?
So it's just a shoulder?What is the project going on at I-95 just south of the junction with I-295?
I think you are referring to this.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2484164#msg2484164
No its a new lane.So it's just a shoulder?What is the project going on at I-95 just south of the junction with I-295?
I think you are referring to this.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2484164#msg2484164
No its a new lane.So it's just a shoulder?What is the project going on at I-95 just south of the junction with I-295?
I think you are referring to this.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2484164#msg2484164
Have you drove on I-95 yet? They are digging the lane for I-95/295 merge & they are prepping to put the metal beams on the 141 bridges.No its a new lane.So it's just a shoulder?What is the project going on at I-95 just south of the junction with I-295?
I think you are referring to this.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2484164#msg2484164
It's both, but they haven't started on anything beyond the SR 141 interchange project yet, at least within the past couple weeks.
OK so they are adding a lane between the 95/295 SB junction and the SR1 exit?Have you drove on I-95 yet? They are digging the lane for I-95/295 merge & they are prepping to put the metal beams on the 141 bridges.No its a new lane.So it's just a shoulder?What is the project going on at I-95 just south of the junction with I-295?
I think you are referring to this.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2484164#msg2484164
It's both, but they haven't started on anything beyond the SR 141 interchange project yet, at least within the past couple weeks.
Edit: if thats the plans for the 896 project. I dont think thats what the guy was asking about. He was asking about 95/295.
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They are increasing the merge for the 295/95 merge on the left.OK so they are adding a lane between the 95/295 SB junction and the SR1 exit?Have you drove on I-95 yet? They are digging the lane for I-95/295 merge & they are prepping to put the metal beams on the 141 bridges.No its a new lane.So it's just a shoulder?What is the project going on at I-95 just south of the junction with I-295?
I think you are referring to this.
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2484164#msg2484164
It's both, but they haven't started on anything beyond the SR 141 interchange project yet, at least within the past couple weeks.
Edit: if thats the plans for the 896 project. I dont think thats what the guy was asking about. He was asking about 95/295.
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Gotcha, so this is just from the 295/95 merge to SR1, an extra aux lane?I believe the 295/95 Merge will be 3 lanes now.
I guess though 295 when it merges with 95 will still be only 2 lanes at the entrance?
Gotcha, so this is just from the 295/95 merge to SR1, an extra aux lane?
I guess though 295 when it merges with 95 will still be only 2 lanes at the entrance?
This will greatly help the merge area though. It gets really tight right there especially including the C/D so pushing the merge up a mile plus adding that new lane will make this like the NJTP.Gotcha, so this is just from the 295/95 merge to SR1, an extra aux lane?
I guess though 295 when it merges with 95 will still be only 2 lanes at the entrance?
It will, yes. After I-295 merges in, its left lane will end and its right lane will continue on as the left-most lane of I-95.
(https://image.prntscr.com/image/M-3OwTRhQnab-BVi50UKPw.png)
The right shoulder lane will come in from the SR 141 C/D road. (http://gssdocs.deldot.delaware.gov/bids/T201906109%20-%20Repost%20Construction%20Plans.pdf)
Churchman Xing is what exit?
OK...so right nowIf I recall correctly from [mention]Alex4897 [/mention] or [mention]Alps [/mention]said it will be 7 or 8 lanes.
-295 SB goes 2 lanes after the 495 exit until it meets 95
-At the junction it becomes 5 lanes until exit 4B
So with construction it will become...
OK...so right nowIf I recall correctly from [mention]Alex4897 [/mention] or [mention]Alps [/mention]said it will be 7 or 8 lanes.
-295 SB goes 2 lanes after the 495 exit until it meets 95
-At the junction it becomes 5 lanes until exit 4B
So with construction it will become...
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2. 95 SB from the junction with 295 to exit 4B will go from 5 lanes to 6 lanes
OK...so right nowIf I recall correctly from [mention]Alex4897 [/mention] or [mention]Alps [/mention]said it will be 7 or 8 lanes.
-295 SB goes 2 lanes after the 495 exit until it meets 95
-At the junction it becomes 5 lanes until exit 4B
So with construction it will become...
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Damn that is a confusing interchange.Yes & this will help the traffic move along better during rush hour. Wait till the project is done & youll see the upgrades.
OK so basically:
1. 295 after 495 to 95 junction will go from 2 to 3 lanes SB
2. 95 SB between 295 and exit 5 will be 5 or 6 lanes?
3. 95 SB from exit 5 to exit 4 will be 5+1 extra shoulder lane at peak
That it?
Anyone know the status of this project.
https://www.wilmingtonde.gov/home/showdocument?id=8716 (https://www.wilmingtonde.gov/home/showdocument?id=8716)
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This will be great for the connection of 495 & the Riverfront area of NE. There would be big changes when this happens.
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I have drove past & saw a gate with a warp on it saying “Wilmington public water works”Anyone know the status of this project.
https://www.wilmingtonde.gov/home/showdocument?id=8716 (https://www.wilmingtonde.gov/home/showdocument?id=8716)
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This will be great for the connection of 495 & the Riverfront area of NE. There would be big changes when this happens.
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Anything I'm finding seems to indicate the project started in 2019. Have you been in the area lately to see if was already worked on?
DelDOT has started work on the widening of DE 279 EB. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8282&type=Traffic)
One can still use US 40.DelDOT has started work on the widening of DE 279 EB. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8282&type=Traffic)There goes one shunpike for a while (although fewer vehicles on the road might offset this).
Eww US 40. All the traffic is on there & the I-95 exit is in Northeast.One can still use US 40.DelDOT has started work on the widening of DE 279 EB. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8282&type=Traffic)There goes one shunpike for a while (although fewer vehicles on the road might offset this).
That's not an effective shunpike because you're paying to cross the Susquehanna anyway. Once you're up on 1 there are other ways back to 95.DelDOT has started work on the widening of DE 279 EB. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8282&type=Traffic)
There goes one shunpike for a while (although fewer vehicles on the road might offset this).
That's not an effective shunpike because you're paying to cross the Susquehanna anyway. Once you're up on 1 there are other ways back to 95.DelDOT has started work on the widening of DE 279 EB. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8282&type=Traffic)
There goes one shunpike for a while (although fewer vehicles on the road might offset this).
That's not an effective shunpike because you're paying to cross the Susquehanna anyway. Once you're up on 1 there are other ways back to 95.DelDOT has started work on the widening of DE 279 EB. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8282&type=Traffic)
There goes one shunpike for a while (although fewer vehicles on the road might offset this).
If you have the Hatem Bridge E-ZPass, you pay $20 for the entire year. Besides, that toll pays for both directions of a 40-mile long highway (versus a 10-mile stretch in DE).
I tried to shunpike using 1 from around Havre de Grace and it took forever to get to 1. Then you're so far west that it takes forever to get back to 95, unless you go all the way to US 322 or I-476 in PA.
Interesting and good updates to I-95/896
https://deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=7590687&iProjectObjectID=49427 (https://deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=7590687&iProjectObjectID=49427)
Are there any plans for that toll plaza going AET? Such a conversion would ultimately address/resolve most of the fore-mentioned I-95 southbound traffic issues near/at that interchange.Interesting and good updates to I-95/896
https://deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=7590687&iProjectObjectID=49427 (https://deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=7590687&iProjectObjectID=49427)
Regarding the 3rd graphic - the interim plan in 2021 to provide 95 3 thru lanes at 896, and the right lane being an Exit Only lane:
I don't know if I'm too much of a fan of the right lane at 896 being a permanent Exit Only lane, for what amounts to a max 2 hour-per-weekday rush hour issue. This seems like it'll create more of an issue for thru traffic heading towards the cash lanes of the toll plaza, and won't resolve the issue of motorists trying to cut in to the right lane at the last moment to avoid the congestion getting off at 896.
I was never for the extremely elongated EZ Pass/Cash split for the toll plaza Southbound, where they brought the split all the way back to the 896 interchange. When it comes to the current plans, they are probably a bit limited in what they could do because of this issue.
Also noted: While they're seemingly going to modify the signage with a bunch of layovers, they're not changing the "LANES DIVIDE - X MILE" panel, which will leave this awkwardly right-justified over the 3 lanes it's referring to.
I did notice, going thru the toll plaza Northbound this week, that they narrowed NB 95 to 3 lanes after the toll plaza making the right lane an Exit Only lane for 896, leaving 95 with 3 lanes under 896. Some of me now thinks this was a 'test' to see if it'll work for 95 South, although the conditions are vastly different. 896 North to 95 North is now a continuous lane, forming the 4th lane for 95 North.
Are there any plans for that toll plaza going AET? Such a conversion would ultimately address/resolve most of the fore-mentioned I-95 southbound traffic issues near/at that interchange.Interesting and good updates to I-95/896
https://deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=7590687&iProjectObjectID=49427 (https://deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=7590687&iProjectObjectID=49427)
Regarding the 3rd graphic - the interim plan in 2021 to provide 95 3 thru lanes at 896, and the right lane being an Exit Only lane:
I don't know if I'm too much of a fan of the right lane at 896 being a permanent Exit Only lane, for what amounts to a max 2 hour-per-weekday rush hour issue. This seems like it'll create more of an issue for thru traffic heading towards the cash lanes of the toll plaza, and won't resolve the issue of motorists trying to cut in to the right lane at the last moment to avoid the congestion getting off at 896.
I was never for the extremely elongated EZ Pass/Cash split for the toll plaza Southbound, where they brought the split all the way back to the 896 interchange. When it comes to the current plans, they are probably a bit limited in what they could do because of this issue.
Also noted: While they're seemingly going to modify the signage with a bunch of layovers, they're not changing the "LANES DIVIDE - X MILE" panel, which will leave this awkwardly right-justified over the 3 lanes it's referring to.
I did notice, going thru the toll plaza Northbound this week, that they narrowed NB 95 to 3 lanes after the toll plaza making the right lane an Exit Only lane for 896, leaving 95 with 3 lanes under 896. Some of me now thinks this was a 'test' to see if it'll work for 95 South, although the conditions are vastly different. 896 North to 95 North is now a continuous lane, forming the 4th lane for 95 North.
I see no backups at the toll plaza. The back ups are as jeff mentioned above..... people trying to go ahead of the traffic & cut into the 896 exit lanes.Are there any plans for that toll plaza going AET? Such a conversion would ultimately address/resolve most of the fore-mentioned I-95 southbound traffic issues near/at that interchange.Interesting and good updates to I-95/896
https://deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=7590687&iProjectObjectID=49427 (https://deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=7590687&iProjectObjectID=49427)
Regarding the 3rd graphic - the interim plan in 2021 to provide 95 3 thru lanes at 896, and the right lane being an Exit Only lane:
I don't know if I'm too much of a fan of the right lane at 896 being a permanent Exit Only lane, for what amounts to a max 2 hour-per-weekday rush hour issue. This seems like it'll create more of an issue for thru traffic heading towards the cash lanes of the toll plaza, and won't resolve the issue of motorists trying to cut in to the right lane at the last moment to avoid the congestion getting off at 896.
I was never for the extremely elongated EZ Pass/Cash split for the toll plaza Southbound, where they brought the split all the way back to the 896 interchange. When it comes to the current plans, they are probably a bit limited in what they could do because of this issue.
Also noted: While they're seemingly going to modify the signage with a bunch of layovers, they're not changing the "LANES DIVIDE - X MILE" panel, which will leave this awkwardly right-justified over the 3 lanes it's referring to.
I did notice, going thru the toll plaza Northbound this week, that they narrowed NB 95 to 3 lanes after the toll plaza making the right lane an Exit Only lane for 896, leaving 95 with 3 lanes under 896. Some of me now thinks this was a 'test' to see if it'll work for 95 South, although the conditions are vastly different. 896 North to 95 North is now a continuous lane, forming the 4th lane for 95 North.
Given that plaza was only just rebuilt a few years ago, I'd be shocked if DelDOT elected to tear it down so soon. I could see AET conversion happening at the Delaware Memorial Bridge or along SR 1 before it's even considered on I-95.
Given that plaza was only just rebuilt a few years ago, I'd be shocked if DelDOT elected to tear it down so soon. I could see AET conversion happening at the Delaware Memorial Bridge or along SR 1 before it's even considered on I-95.
Whereas the studies show that the common terminal of these two U.S. Routes should be moved from State Road to Farnhurst in order to terminate each route at an interchange on a major corridor, Interstate Route 295.
The elimination of U.S. 13 By-pass Route is requested because:
It no longer serves the purpose of a by-pass route due to traffic congestion on the route created by roadside development.
In short, the by-pass route does not by-pass or provide relief, now, for traffic between Naaman's Corner and Philadelphia through Chester.
The purpose of this switch in numbering is to make the routes agree with the route definition found in the 1962 Policy Manual...
Policy calls for the "shortest and best available route between major control points on the system". U.S. 13 Alternate located over Governor Printz is obviously the higher design facility, less congested, and has shorter travel time. The mixing of high speed through traffic and slow moving locally orientated traffic is highly undesirable."
It is recommended that the existing U.S. 202 at the intersection of I-95 and U.S. 202 be stopped, and the section of U.S. 202 North of I-295 and I-95 interchange be eliminated.
Since the completion of I-95 (November 1968), the U.S. 202 traffic through Wilmington is moving via I-95, this being the fastest and the best possible route connecting U.S. 202 and I-295.
we do not feel redesignation of U.S. Route 13 Alternate to U.S. Route 13 Business, in Dover, conforms with the definition of "Business Route" or is in the best interest of the public.
U.S. Route 13 Alternate does not provide the variety of services associated with a Business Route. Primarily, the route serves residential areas having scattered commercial development. We respectfully suggest that the existing U.S. Route designation in Dover is quite adequate and that no further changes are necessary at this point in time.
This is to provide a high capacity safe connection between U.S. 13, a major north-south route, and U.S. 202, a major route into Pennsylvania and the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Prior to I-95 opening, U.S. 202 connected to U.S. 13 across City of Wilmington Streets. The Department has received continuing requests for a re-establishment of a connection."
The truncation of U.S. 202 in 1970 was a logical one. The formal reasoning:QuoteIt is recommended that the existing U.S. 202 at the intersection of I-95 and U.S. 202 be stopped, and the section of U.S. 202 North of I-295 and I-95 interchange be eliminated.
Since the completion of I-95 (November 1968), the U.S. 202 traffic through Wilmington is moving via I-95, this being the fastest and the best possible route connecting U.S. 202 and I-295.
Maybe when Interstate 95 was moved to Interstate 495's route temporarily in the late 1970's, with the existing 95 becoming Interstate 895, they should have left those designations intact. If I'm not mistaken, Interstate 495 is six lanes until Exit 5, while 95 has some portions that are only four lanes wide.
Is there any way Interstate 95 in Wilmington could be expanded to six lanes through its entire length between the two 495 junctions without wreaking the entire city? How congested is the existing roadway on a day-to-day basis, and could the route use additional traffic lanes (even if such a proposal could only exist in Fictional Highways)?
Is there any way Interstate 95 in Wilmington could be expanded to six lanes through its entire length between the two 495 junctions without wreaking the entire city? How congested is the existing roadway on a day-to-day basis, and could the route use additional traffic lanes (even if such a proposal could only exist in Fictional Highways)?
Ironically, the.most congested part is often the section with 6 lanes.
I don't think the 4 lane section north of Wilmington is a huge issue in terms of traffic volume. Its more an issue of left lane hogs, which both DE and PA are well known for.
The area in the immediate vicinity of downtown Wilmington could use another lane each way, and there is enough room to do it.
I think all of the above goes back to the point of whether or not it was a good idea to route 95 through Wilmington. The long distance traffic mixes with the local traffic. A lot more bypass traffic would probably take 495 if it were numbered 95.
Based on what I've seen, traffic is pretty well balanced either way. If 95 were signed around the city, it might end up overloaded outside of rush hour relative to what's now 95.Is there any way Interstate 95 in Wilmington could be expanded to six lanes through its entire length between the two 495 junctions without wreaking the entire city? How congested is the existing roadway on a day-to-day basis, and could the route use additional traffic lanes (even if such a proposal could only exist in Fictional Highways)?
Ironically, the.most congested part is often the section with 6 lanes.
I don't think the 4 lane section north of Wilmington is a huge issue in terms of traffic volume. Its more an issue of left lane hogs, which both DE and PA are well known for.
The area in the immediate vicinity of downtown Wilmington could use another lane each way, and there is enough room to do it.
I think all of the above goes back to the point of whether or not it was a good idea to route 95 through Wilmington. The long distance traffic mixes with the local traffic. A lot more bypass traffic would probably take 495 if it were numbered 95.
I think all of the above goes back to the point of whether or not it was a good idea to route 95 through Wilmington. The long distance traffic mixes with the local traffic. A lot more bypass traffic would probably take 495 if it were numbered 95.
I-495 in Delaware is signed (in terms of control cities) to encourage "thru" trips to use it as a bypass of I-95.
That, combined with drivers that know that I-495 is a better (as in faster with less interchanges) road than I-95 are probably taking it now. I have never had issues taking either one, except during the problem in 2014 with the I-495 bridge over the Christiana River that forced a hard closure of I-495 that lasted several weeks.
I am STILL confused on what is going on SB 295/95 junction.
Can someone explain:
-What it was before
-What it will be
-What it is now?
I am STILL confused on what is going on SB 295/95 junction.
Can someone explain:
-What it was before
-What it will be
-What it is now?
It appears that the 295 lanes will remain separated from the I-95 lanes until after the DE 141 overpass, and then merge in.
I am STILL confused on what is going on SB 295/95 junction.
Can someone explain:
-What it was before
-What it will be
-What it is now?
It appears that the 295 lanes will remain separated from the I-95 lanes until after the DE 141 overpass, and then merge in.
OK but how many lanes was 295 before/now/once done?
Gotcha, so this is just from the 295/95 merge to SR1, an extra aux lane?
I guess though 295 when it merges with 95 will still be only 2 lanes at the entrance?
It will, yes. After I-295 merges in, its left lane will end and its right lane will continue on as the left-most lane of I-95.
(https://i.imgur.com/4HXqTQL.png)
The right shoulder lane will come in from the SR 141 C/D road. (http://gssdocs.deldot.delaware.gov/bids/T201906109%20-%20Repost%20Construction%20Plans.pdf)
The right shoulder lane will come in from the SR 141 C/D road. (http://gssdocs.deldot.delaware.gov/bids/T201906109%20-%20Repost%20Construction%20Plans.pdf)
The right shoulder lane will come in from the SR 141 C/D road. (http://gssdocs.deldot.delaware.gov/bids/T201906109%20-%20Repost%20Construction%20Plans.pdf)
Nice! Thanks for this link.
Although it appears on Page 33, the incorrect Lane Ending sign is used. The left lane from 495 South ends after it meets 95 South. The sign appears to indicate the right lane ends.
Ok so pre-construcytion:
295 SB was 2 lanes approaching 95 which was 4 lanes
and post-construction....
Thanks, so basically all this does is add a peak shoulder land for 141 CD on SB 95 at the 295 junction?Ok so pre-construcytion:
295 SB was 2 lanes approaching 95 which was 4 lanes
and post-construction....
BEFORE:
295 SB was 2 lanes, merges into one to become the far left lane of a 5 lane roadway
95 SB was 4 lanes, becomes the right 4 lanes of a 5 lane roadway
141 CD was 1 lane, merges completely into the far right lane
AFTER
295 SB was 2 lanes, merges into one to become the far left lane
95 SB was 4 lanes, will becomes the right 4 lanes of the 5 lane roadway
141 CD was 1 lane, will become shoulder lane when active, otherwise will merge into far right lane
Shoulder lane will drop at the DE 58 exit
Far right lane drops (and will still drop) at the DE 1 South exit
Thanks, so basically all this does is add a peak shoulder land for 141 CD on SB 95 at the 295 junction?Ok so pre-construcytion:
295 SB was 2 lanes approaching 95 which was 4 lanes
and post-construction....
BEFORE:
295 SB was 2 lanes, merges into one to become the far left lane of a 5 lane roadway
95 SB was 4 lanes, becomes the right 4 lanes of a 5 lane roadway
141 CD was 1 lane, merges completely into the far right lane
AFTER
295 SB was 2 lanes, merges into one to become the far left lane
95 SB was 4 lanes, will becomes the right 4 lanes of the 5 lane roadway
141 CD was 1 lane, will become shoulder lane when active, otherwise will merge into far right lane
Shoulder lane will drop at the DE 58 exit
Far right lane drops (and will still drop) at the DE 1 South exit
This will modernize the overpasses, and allow for a 3rd lane to be built on 295 merging into 95 in the future if it's necessary to do so.Um... it already is?
This will modernize the overpasses, and allow for a 3rd lane to be built on 295 merging into 95 in the future if it's necessary to do so.Um... it already is?
Oh ok, so 295 SB at 95 will have the capacity to add a 3rd lane at the merge in the future?Thanks, so basically all this does is add a peak shoulder land for 141 CD on SB 95 at the 295 junction?Ok so pre-construcytion:
295 SB was 2 lanes approaching 95 which was 4 lanes
and post-construction....
BEFORE:
295 SB was 2 lanes, merges into one to become the far left lane of a 5 lane roadway
95 SB was 4 lanes, becomes the right 4 lanes of a 5 lane roadway
141 CD was 1 lane, merges completely into the far right lane
AFTER
295 SB was 2 lanes, merges into one to become the far left lane
95 SB was 4 lanes, will becomes the right 4 lanes of the 5 lane roadway
141 CD was 1 lane, will become shoulder lane when active, otherwise will merge into far right lane
Shoulder lane will drop at the DE 58 exit
Far right lane drops (and will still drop) at the DE 1 South exit
Basically...depending what you meant there. The shoulder lane is on 95 South from 141 to 58.
It does seem like a lot for little return, but it also involves the DE 141 bridges being reconstructed. This will modernize the overpasses, and allow for a 3rd lane to be built on 295 merging into 95 in the future if it's necessary to do so. The bridge needed to be reconstructed anyway, so they're just preparing for the future as well.
I'm not terribly convinced the shoulder lane will help much. From 141 thru the Marsh, it'll be ok. At Route 58 though, my worry is that too many people will try to cut out from that shoulder lane to continue on 95 to DE 1, and that'll form a weaving/conflict point. Considering how many people try cutting in to the exit lanes for DE 1 already, this may further compound that issue.
Oh ok, so 295 SB at 95 will have the capacity to add a 3rd lane at the merge in the future?Thanks, so basically all this does is add a peak shoulder land for 141 CD on SB 95 at the 295 junction?Ok so pre-construcytion:
295 SB was 2 lanes approaching 95 which was 4 lanes
and post-construction....
BEFORE:
295 SB was 2 lanes, merges into one to become the far left lane of a 5 lane roadway
95 SB was 4 lanes, becomes the right 4 lanes of a 5 lane roadway
141 CD was 1 lane, merges completely into the far right lane
AFTER
295 SB was 2 lanes, merges into one to become the far left lane
95 SB was 4 lanes, will becomes the right 4 lanes of the 5 lane roadway
141 CD was 1 lane, will become shoulder lane when active, otherwise will merge into far right lane
Shoulder lane will drop at the DE 58 exit
Far right lane drops (and will still drop) at the DE 1 South exit
Basically...depending what you meant there. The shoulder lane is on 95 South from 141 to 58.
It does seem like a lot for little return, but it also involves the DE 141 bridges being reconstructed. This will modernize the overpasses, and allow for a 3rd lane to be built on 295 merging into 95 in the future if it's necessary to do so. The bridge needed to be reconstructed anyway, so they're just preparing for the future as well.
I'm not terribly convinced the shoulder lane will help much. From 141 thru the Marsh, it'll be ok. At Route 58 though, my worry is that too many people will try to cut out from that shoulder lane to continue on 95 to DE 1, and that'll form a weaving/conflict point. Considering how many people try cutting in to the exit lanes for DE 1 already, this may further compound that issue.
The Delaware Department of Transportation (DelDOT) announces that the new Route 1 southbound auxiliary lane between Route 273 and Route 40 is now open to traffic.
If it were my choices, I'd go with Alt 2 or 3. Alt 1 really doesn't change much. Alt 4...I never cared for interchanges that involve a separate roadway to enter or exit from.Alt 3 looks like the best option especially with the newtown ramp.
I was also trying to figure out how the Park and Ride is affected. It looks like it can't be accessed in Alt 4 at all, but it appears crossed out in the other 3 Alts also.
If it were my choices, I'd go with Alt 2 or 3. Alt 1 really doesn't change much. Alt 4...I never cared for interchanges that involve a separate roadway to enter or exit from.Alt 3 looks like the best option especially with the newtown ramp.
I was also trying to figure out how the Park and Ride is affected. It looks like it can't be accessed in Alt 4 at all, but it appears crossed out in the other 3 Alts also.
The park & ride will be gone. They are building a transit center at the Christiana mall that is currently in the development page according to the DELDOT projects site
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Well when they build the connector road from 58 thru the capano development to the fashion center it will alleviate some traffic. I think the park & ride/transit center is perfect for the mall or 273-13. It needs to be in an area that people can walk to & also connect people to. The current location of the park & ride is only good for cars which I see mostly parked there. I have never seen anyone walk 273 even with the sidewalks they plan to add.If it were my choices, I'd go with Alt 2 or 3. Alt 1 really doesn't change much. Alt 4...I never cared for interchanges that involve a separate roadway to enter or exit from.Alt 3 looks like the best option especially with the newtown ramp.
I was also trying to figure out how the Park and Ride is affected. It looks like it can't be accessed in Alt 4 at all, but it appears crossed out in the other 3 Alts also.
The park & ride will be gone. They are building a transit center at the Christiana mall that is currently in the development page according to the DELDOT projects site
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https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201353111
I see *near* the mall, so not sure if that refers to the parking lot around the mall, or somewhere else close by.
Either way, it seems like a waste to get rid of this one by 1 & 273. Many times, the purpose of these park and rides are that people don't need to travel far, or need to travel on busy roads or the highways. By consolidating them into one place in a busy area, they're eliminating some of the purposes of them. Even by leaving the lot open without bus service, it would still serve as a carpooling meeting location.
On a completely different note from what's been discussed, here's something interesting I've noticed when it comes to the DE state route system. Usually, the odd numbered routes are north-south, and the even numbered routes are east-west similarly to the Interstate and US Highway systems with the exception of routes that are continuations of PA and MD state routes like route 52 and route 273 for instance. One exception I notice is route 72 which is a north-south route despite the fact it's an even number, and it doesn't continue as a PA or MD state route. Does anyone know why that's the case there? What confuses me even more is that DE doesn't have a route 73, so why couldn't they have made this route 73 given that it's a north-south route?"DE 72 was designated by 1942 to run from DE 2 (Main Street) in Newark north to DE 7, following Chapel Street and Paper Mill Road."
On a completely different note from what's been discussed, here's something interesting I've noticed when it comes to the DE state route system. Usually, the odd numbered routes are north-south, and the even numbered routes are east-west similarly to the Interstate and US Highway systems with the exception of routes that are continuations of PA and MD state routes like route 52 and route 273 for instance. One exception I notice is route 72 which is a north-south route despite the fact it's an even number, and it doesn't continue as a PA or MD state route. Does anyone know why that's the case there? What confuses me even more is that DE doesn't have a route 73, so why couldn't they have made this route 73 given that it's a north-south route?"DE 72 was designated by 1942 to run from DE 2 (Main Street) in Newark north to DE 7, following Chapel Street and Paper Mill Road."
If Wiki is accurate, it was numbered to connect 7 to 2, so a better suggestion would be Route 27.
On a completely different note from what's been discussed, here's something interesting I've noticed when it comes to the DE state route system. Usually, the odd numbered routes are north-south, and the even numbered routes are east-west similarly to the Interstate and US Highway systems with the exception of routes that are continuations of PA and MD state routes like route 52 and route 273 for instance. One exception I notice is route 72 which is a north-south route despite the fact it's an even number, and it doesn't continue as a PA or MD state route. Does anyone know why that's the case there? What confuses me even more is that DE doesn't have a route 73, so why couldn't they have made this route 73 given that it's a north-south route?"DE 72 was designated by 1942 to run from DE 2 (Main Street) in Newark north to DE 7, following Chapel Street and Paper Mill Road."
If Wiki is accurate, it was numbered to connect 7 to 2, so a better suggestion would be Route 27.
So with that being said, why route 72 as opposed to route 27, since Delaware doesn't have a route 27 either.
My thought was that, because DE has DE-52, DE-62, DE-72, DE-82, and DE-92 all running in the northern part of the state, they were numbered to imply relation to DE-2. But I can't think of any other roads in DE that work like that (and what gives with DE-42?).On a completely different note from what's been discussed, here's something interesting I've noticed when it comes to the DE state route system. Usually, the odd numbered routes are north-south, and the even numbered routes are east-west similarly to the Interstate and US Highway systems with the exception of routes that are continuations of PA and MD state routes like route 52 and route 273 for instance. One exception I notice is route 72 which is a north-south route despite the fact it's an even number, and it doesn't continue as a PA or MD state route. Does anyone know why that's the case there? What confuses me even more is that DE doesn't have a route 73, so why couldn't they have made this route 73 given that it's a north-south route?"DE 72 was designated by 1942 to run from DE 2 (Main Street) in Newark north to DE 7, following Chapel Street and Paper Mill Road."
If Wiki is accurate, it was numbered to connect 7 to 2, so a better suggestion would be Route 27.
My thought was that, because DE has DE-52, DE-62, DE-72, DE-82, and DE-92 all running in the northern part of the state, they were numbered to imply relation to DE-2. But I can't think of any other roads in DE that work like that (and what gives with DE-42?).On a completely different note from what's been discussed, here's something interesting I've noticed when it comes to the DE state route system. Usually, the odd numbered routes are north-south, and the even numbered routes are east-west similarly to the Interstate and US Highway systems with the exception of routes that are continuations of PA and MD state routes like route 52 and route 273 for instance. One exception I notice is route 72 which is a north-south route despite the fact it's an even number, and it doesn't continue as a PA or MD state route. Does anyone know why that's the case there? What confuses me even more is that DE doesn't have a route 73, so why couldn't they have made this route 73 given that it's a north-south route?"DE 72 was designated by 1942 to run from DE 2 (Main Street) in Newark north to DE 7, following Chapel Street and Paper Mill Road."
If Wiki is accurate, it was numbered to connect 7 to 2, so a better suggestion would be Route 27.
My thought was that, because DE has DE-52, DE-62, DE-72, DE-82, and DE-92 all running in the northern part of the state, they were numbered to imply relation to DE-2. But I can't think of any other roads in DE that work like that (and what gives with DE-42?).On a completely different note from what's been discussed, here's something interesting I've noticed when it comes to the DE state route system. Usually, the odd numbered routes are north-south, and the even numbered routes are east-west similarly to the Interstate and US Highway systems with the exception of routes that are continuations of PA and MD state routes like route 52 and route 273 for instance. One exception I notice is route 72 which is a north-south route despite the fact it's an even number, and it doesn't continue as a PA or MD state route. Does anyone know why that's the case there? What confuses me even more is that DE doesn't have a route 73, so why couldn't they have made this route 73 given that it's a north-south route?"DE 72 was designated by 1942 to run from DE 2 (Main Street) in Newark north to DE 7, following Chapel Street and Paper Mill Road."
If Wiki is accurate, it was numbered to connect 7 to 2, so a better suggestion would be Route 27.
What about DE 24, DE 44, and DE 54, which are nowhere near DE 4? :)
And DE 16, DE 26, and DE 36, which are nowhere near DE 6? :biggrin:
ixnay
(https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/wdel.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/8/2c/82c1010c-4b8f-11eb-b10b-7ba64d7b73fd/5fee0d887285b.image.jpg?resize=640%2C480)What a sexy ramp. Good job Deldot.
The rebuilt 2nd Street ramp to I-95 SB in Wilmington opened yesterday according to WDEL (https://www.wdel.com/news/new-2nd-street-on-ramp-opens-in-wilmington/article_79d83196-4b8f-11eb-9c68-bf7ca7ac6023.html).
What a sexy ramp.
Delaware is one of the remaining states that still numbers their exits sequentially (excluding, DE-1 which has kilometer-based exits, and US-301 (I think) is mile-based). Has the state announced any sort of plan to convert I-95, I-295 and I-495 to mileage-based exits?
Delaware is one of the remaining states that still numbers their exits sequentially (excluding, DE-1 which has kilometer-based exits, and US-301 (I think) is mile-based). Has the state announced any sort of plan to convert I-95, I-295 and I-495 to mileage-based exits?
US 301 is indeed mileage based. You would think DelDOT could do it relatively quickly, but I haven't heard anything (and in the case of 295, it would be adding numbers). If you did, it wouldn't be too hard:
I-95:
2 (A/B SB): DE 896
6 (A/B NB): DE 273
8 A/B: DE 1/DE 7
11 A/B: US 202 SOUTH/DE 141
12A (12 SB): I-295 NORTH
12B (NB ONLY): I-495 NORTH
14 (NB ONLY): DE 4
15A (SB ONLY): DE 4/DE 9
15 (NB) / 15B/C (SB) : DE 52
17: US 202 NORTH/DE 202 SOUTH
19: DE 3
21 (NB ONLY): Harvey Rd
23: DE 92 (NB; SB access via I-495) / I-495 SOUTH (SB).
I-295:
1A (SB ONLY): DE 141 NORTH
1B (SB ONLY): I-95 NORTH
1C (SB ONLY): I-495 NORTH
2 A/B: US 13/US 40 WEST
2C (NB ONLY): Landers Lane
3 A/B: DE 9
I-495:
0 (SB ONLY): I-295 NORTH
1 (SB ONLY): DE 141
2: US 13 BUS (NB)/US 13 (SB)
3: DE 9A
4: 12th St
6 (A/B SB): US 13/DE 3
11 (A SB): US 13 (TO DE 92 NB)
11B (SB ONLY): DE 92
While technically true, that's where the similarity ends. Whereas the entire Delaware Turnpike is I-95; the entire length of the NJ Turnpike is not.Delaware is one of the remaining states that still numbers their exits sequentially (excluding, DE-1 which has kilometer-based exits, and US-301 (I think) is mile-based). Has the state announced any sort of plan to convert I-95, I-295 and I-495 to mileage-based exits?
US 301 is indeed mileage based. You would think DelDOT could do it relatively quickly, but I haven't heard anything (and in the case of 295, it would be adding numbers). If you did, it wouldn't be too hard:
I-95:
2 (A/B SB): DE 896
6 (A/B NB): DE 273
8 A/B: DE 1/DE 7
11 A/B: US 202 SOUTH/DE 141
12A (12 SB): I-295 NORTH
12B (NB ONLY): I-495 NORTH
14 (NB ONLY): DE 4
15A (SB ONLY): DE 4/DE 9
15 (NB) / 15B/C (SB) : DE 52
17: US 202 NORTH/DE 202 SOUTH
19: DE 3
21 (NB ONLY): Harvey Rd
23: DE 92 (NB; SB access via I-495) / I-495 SOUTH (SB).
I-295:
1A (SB ONLY): DE 141 NORTH
1B (SB ONLY): I-95 NORTH
1C (SB ONLY): I-495 NORTH
2 A/B: US 13/US 40 WEST
2C (NB ONLY): Landers Lane
3 A/B: DE 9
I-495:
0 (SB ONLY): I-295 NORTH
1 (SB ONLY): DE 141
2: US 13 BUS (NB)/US 13 (SB)
3: DE 9A
4: 12th St
6 (A/B SB): US 13/DE 3
11 (A SB): US 13 (TO DE 92 NB)
11B (SB ONLY): DE 92
Although the more I think about this, Delaware may be able to get away with keeping its sequential numbering on the Delaware Turnpike section of I-95 since that stretch is financed and maintained with toll revenues, not federal funding. It's the same reason why the New Jersey Turnpike still retains sequential exit numbering and non-standard highway signage.
I-95:
2 (A/B SB): DE 896
6 (A/B NB): DE 273
8 A/B: DE 1/DE 7
11 A/B: US 202 SOUTH/DE 141
12A (12 SB): I-295 NORTH
12B (NB ONLY): I-495 NORTH
14 (NB ONLY): DE 4
15A (SB ONLY): DE 4/DE 9
15 (NB) / 15B/C (SB) : DE 52
17: US 202 NORTH/DE 202 SOUTH
19: DE 3
21 (NB ONLY): Harvey Rd
23: DE 92 (NB; SB access via I-495) / I-495 SOUTH (SB).
Virtual public meetings are scheduled for the I-95/DE 896 Interchange (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=14652) and the DE 24 Corridor (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=14650) on February 16th and 25th respectively.
Agreed.
I-95:
2 (A/B SB): DE 896
6 (A/B NB): DE 273
8 A/B: DE 1/DE 7
11 A/B: US 202 SOUTH/DE 141
12A (12 SB): I-295 NORTH
12B (NB ONLY): I-495 NORTH
14 (NB ONLY): DE 4
15A (SB ONLY): DE 4/DE 9
15 (NB) / 15B/C (SB) : DE 52
17: US 202 NORTH/DE 202 SOUTH
19: DE 3
21 (NB ONLY): Harvey Rd
23: DE 92 (NB; SB access via I-495) / I-495 SOUTH (SB).
Something ain't right about the suggested Exit numbers on 95 for 295 and 495. The 2 interchanges are 1.4 miles apart, so they shouldn't both be associated with Interchange 12.
While technically true, that's where the similarity ends. Whereas the entire Delaware Turnpike is I-95; the entire length of the NJ Turnpike is not.Delaware is one of the remaining states that still numbers their exits sequentially (excluding, DE-1 which has kilometer-based exits, and US-301 (I think) is mile-based). Has the state announced any sort of plan to convert I-95, I-295 and I-495 to mileage-based exits?
US 301 is indeed mileage based. You would think DelDOT could do it relatively quickly, but I haven't heard anything (and in the case of 295, it would be adding numbers). If you did, it wouldn't be too hard:
I-95:
2 (A/B SB): DE 896
6 (A/B NB): DE 273
8 A/B: DE 1/DE 7
11 A/B: US 202 SOUTH/DE 141
12A (12 SB): I-295 NORTH
12B (NB ONLY): I-495 NORTH
14 (NB ONLY): DE 4
15A (SB ONLY): DE 4/DE 9
15 (NB) / 15B/C (SB) : DE 52
17: US 202 NORTH/DE 202 SOUTH
19: DE 3
21 (NB ONLY): Harvey Rd
23: DE 92 (NB; SB access via I-495) / I-495 SOUTH (SB).
I-295:
1A (SB ONLY): DE 141 NORTH
1B (SB ONLY): I-95 NORTH
1C (SB ONLY): I-495 NORTH
2 A/B: US 13/US 40 WEST
2C (NB ONLY): Landers Lane
3 A/B: DE 9
I-495:
0 (SB ONLY): I-295 NORTH
1 (SB ONLY): DE 141
2: US 13 BUS (NB)/US 13 (SB)
3: DE 9A
4: 12th St
6 (A/B SB): US 13/DE 3
11 (A SB): US 13 (TO DE 92 NB)
11B (SB ONLY): DE 92
Although the more I think about this, Delaware may be able to get away with keeping its sequential numbering on the Delaware Turnpike section of I-95 since that stretch is financed and maintained with toll revenues, not federal funding. It's the same reason why the New Jersey Turnpike still retains sequential exit numbering and non-standard highway signage.
The former has no real challenges with converting all its interchanges while the latter one could debate which mileage the I-95 portion of the NJ Turnpike north of Exit 6 will take; the shorter I-95 mileage (Exit 6 falls coincidentally along I-95's projected Mile Marker 6) or the NJ Turnpike's mileage (Exit 6 is at/near the Turnpike's Mile Marker 51).
And the other thought I had that when Delaware gets around to converting to mile-based exit numbers, would they convert DE-1 from kilometer-based to mile-based as well? I recall that DE-1 was built in the 1990s at a time when there was a big push for the US to adopt the metric system, an initiative that ultimately fizzled out.
Meanwhile, AZ has km, normal miles, and I-17's numbers that don't start anywhere near zero.And the other thought I had that when Delaware gets around to converting to mile-based exit numbers, would they convert DE-1 from kilometer-based to mile-based as well? I recall that DE-1 was built in the 1990s at a time when there was a big push for the US to adopt the metric system, an initiative that ultimately fizzled out.
For the northernmost exits, such would be a return to mile-based numbers. I remember when starting at UD seeing exits 96-101 at the northern end, with Mall Road being 100 and I-95 being 101. I wonder if they would get the same numbers today, or if it matters. With changes in routing based on the more recently constructed sections, I could see things being changed by 1 or so.
Delaware has to be the only place with mileage (US 301), consecutive (I-95, 495), and km-based (DE 1) exit numbers simultaneously. Route 141 seems to have numbers that are close enough already for mileage; good enough to stay as they are.
[Route 141 seems to have numbers that are close enough already for mileage; good enough to stay as they are.
Virtual public meetings are scheduled for the I-95/DE 896 Interchange (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=14652) and the DE 24 Corridor (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=14650) on February 16th and 25th respectively.
Tangential note: States that have been mile-based for decades tend to have more unposted interchanges or even routes, because there's no need to fear the FHWA. US 1/9, NJ 3, NJ 4, NJ 18 through New Brunswick, NJ 208, NJ 495... I could add so many more stretches to this.But what is interesting is that some states have added numbers to tiny little short stretches of freeway that previously did not have them. CT added numbers to SR 796 (the Milford Connector), CT 349 and CT 184, and will add numbers to CT 3, CT 17 and CT 82. All of these are freeways (in the case of CT 17, multiple sections thereof), that are less than 3 miles in length and/or have 1 or 2 exits. All but SR 796 were/will be the result of mileage based conversion (CT 72 was another example 20 years ago, and will be changing again).
Most curious. I'll have to hit up Milford again and 3 once it's converted. It's their choice though.Tangential note: States that have been mile-based for decades tend to have more unposted interchanges or even routes, because there's no need to fear the FHWA. US 1/9, NJ 3, NJ 4, NJ 18 through New Brunswick, NJ 208, NJ 495... I could add so many more stretches to this.But what is interesting is that some states have added numbers to tiny little short stretches of freeway that previously did not have them. CT added numbers to SR 796 (the Milford Connector), CT 349 and CT 184, and will add numbers to CT 3, CT 17 and CT 82. All of these are freeways (in the case of CT 17, multiple sections thereof), that are less than 3 miles in length and/or have 1 or 2 exits. All but SR 796 were/will be the result of mileage based conversion (CT 72 was another example 20 years ago, and will be changing again).
Virtual public meetings are scheduled for the I-95/DE 896 Interchange (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=14652) and the DE 24 Corridor (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=14650) on February 16th and 25th respectively.
The ground level signs for SR 3 (Marsh Road) on I-95 northbound (https://www.aaroads.com/guides/i-095-north-de/) were recently replaced:ah, yes, Marsh Rd
I was wondering how Maryland handled the transition of U.S. 301 north into a toll road. They posted this set of signs north of MD 313:
(https://www.aaroads.com/md/301/us-301-n-at-jacobs-cr.jpg)
But nothing else with an exception of a truck weigh restriction sign (https://www.aaroads.com/md/301/us-301-n-at-md-299-1.jpg) indicating that truckers should stay on U.S. 301.
Looks like the I-95 construction zone is having a rough first week. I have periodically checked traffic reports and there is at least one wreck a day. Today, one blocked the NB ramp into downtown (the car literally wedged itself between the barriers).Interesting that people are having such a big issue. Philly has I-95 by the stadium’s & The 1 going towards Roosevelt Blvd in the same fashion & people manage it well.
Looks like the I-95 construction zone is having a rough first week. I have periodically checked traffic reports and there is at least one wreck a day. Today, one blocked the NB ramp into downtown (the car literally wedged itself between the barriers).That always happens with new work zones. Give it time.
Looks like the I-95 construction zone is having a rough first week. I have periodically checked traffic reports and there is at least one wreck a day. Today, one blocked the NB ramp into downtown (the car literally wedged itself between the barriers).
A project was recently bid by DelDOT for the I-95/DE 273 Interchange (http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicFinalBidtabDisplay&id=T200800713) that includes changes on DE 273 WB and the I-95 off-ramps there.
A project was recently bid by DelDOT for the I-95/DE 273 Interchange (http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicFinalBidtabDisplay&id=T200800713) that includes changes on DE 273 WB and the I-95 off-ramps there.
This project will begin on March 15th. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8513)
Im glad they are doing this temporary fix it will resolve that merge for now.A project was recently bid by DelDOT for the I-95/DE 273 Interchange (http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicFinalBidtabDisplay&id=T200800713) that includes changes on DE 273 WB and the I-95 off-ramps there.
This project will begin on March 15th. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8513)
General plans for this project here. (https://deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=3912421&iProjectObjectID=1475)
I kinda wish they'd take it all the way and give the realigned I-95 SB ramp to 273 WB a third right turn lane at the new signal to link directly to the turn lane for Harmony Road.
EDIT: I just looked at the bid tabs document again, whose brilliant idea was it to flip it landscape so you could only fit like two or three table entries onto each page???
An end sign was added for SR 1 north at the Road A (SR 7) overpass by Christiana Mall
While many motorists eyes have been focused on the Restore the Corridor project through downtown Wilmington, contractors will now be starting up a more than year long project reconfiguring the I-95/Route 273 interchange.
On Monday night, March 15, 2021, crews started preliminary work setting up barrier walls and applying new surface striping which will continue during overnight hours this week.
The multi-phase project will ultimately result in a new configuration of several ramps including the I-95 southbound ramp to westbound Route 273 approaching Harmony Road.
I drove on I-295 from the Del Mar Bridge and noticed the work is basically done but it still goes down to two lanes before I-95. Has that project helped at all? I'm like what's the point if it goes down to two lanes before I-95 anyway?!
A project was recently bid by DelDOT for the I-95/DE 273 Interchange (http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicFinalBidtabDisplay&id=T200800713) that includes changes on DE 273 WB and the I-95 off-ramps there.
This project will begin on March 15th. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8513)
A cap over the interstate would be fantastic for those neighborhoods, I don't see it becoming a national park though. Their only referred precedent is the I-395 tunnel under the National Mall in DC, a completely unrelated set of circumstances. Hopefully the push for that pipe dream doesn't become a detriment to getting the project built in the first place.
A mystery to solve...
Delaware did not assign state route numbers until the late 1930s. The 1930 and 1932 annual reports talk about the benefit of making an effort to do that.
However, this 1924 picture (https://cdm16397.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p15323coll6/id/80589/rec/52) at the original US 13-113 split below Dover clearly shows State route No. 3 heading off to the right (with the DuPont Highway off to the left).
Annual reports back to 1917 are available at the Hathi library, but they don't mention route numbers of any kind.
Anyone know what's happening here?
DelDOT sounding out input on plans for DE 16 and 404...
https://www.coastalpoint.com/news/sussexcounty/deldot-wants-public-s-input-on-traffic-on-routes-404-16/article_472a15ba-873b-11eb-acee-bf910041e412.html
https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/404/index.shtml
ixnay
Fixed Link. -Mark
DelDOT sounding out input on plans for DE 16 and 404...
https://www.coastalpoint.com/news/sussexcounty/deldot-wants-public-s-input-on-traffic-on-routes-404-16/article_472a15ba-873b-11eb-acee-bf910041e412.html
https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/404/index.shtml
ixnay
Fixed Link. -Mark
This was funny before when i was driving from New Jersey down to North Carolina...
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.69682,-75.5698099,3a,36.2y,283.32h,98.56t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s5qX0MlIIAVyj8IwnUlvkbA!2e0!5s20121001T000000!7i13312!8i6656
REDUCE SPEED NOW!This was funny before when i was driving from New Jersey down to North Carolina...
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.69682,-75.5698099,3a,36.2y,283.32h,98.56t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s5qX0MlIIAVyj8IwnUlvkbA!2e0!5s20121001T000000!7i13312!8i6656
Funny how?
I will say this was one "improvement" that wasn't. When this interchange was rebuilt, it had a sharper curve than before. Vehicles kept flying off the ramp as they were going too fast. That arrow was installed to encourage traffic to slow down.
REDUCE SPEED NOW!This was funny before when i was driving from New Jersey down to North Carolina...
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.69682,-75.5698099,3a,36.2y,283.32h,98.56t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s5qX0MlIIAVyj8IwnUlvkbA!2e0!5s20121001T000000!7i13312!8i6656
Funny how?
I will say this was one "improvement" that wasn't. When this interchange was rebuilt, it had a sharper curve than before. Vehicles kept flying off the ramp as they were going too fast. That arrow was installed to encourage traffic to slow down.
Here's how the area looks today (as of Sept. 2019) (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6967568,-75.569244,3a,75y,271.59h,82.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjKVe6FeRNYK3mTXWL8auFg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).REDUCE SPEED NOW!This was funny before when i was driving from New Jersey down to North Carolina...
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.69682,-75.5698099,3a,36.2y,283.32h,98.56t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s5qX0MlIIAVyj8IwnUlvkbA!2e0!5s20121001T000000!7i13312!8i6656
Funny how?
I will say this was one "improvement" that wasn't. When this interchange was rebuilt, it had a sharper curve than before. Vehicles kept flying off the ramp as they were going too fast. That arrow was installed to encourage traffic to slow down.
Ah. Yeah, that sign was a result of what I mentioned. Part of the project was realigning the ramps for US 13 North and South, but by doing so they created a more dangerous condition than what existed.
DelDOT: TRAFFIC ALERT - Intersection Improvements Will Require the Closure of US 9/East Market Street
(https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8576)
This is part of the Georgetown East Gateway Project.
DelDOT: TRAFFIC ALERT - UPDATED: Closure of Westbound Route 4/Christina Parkway for Reconstruction (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8624&type=Traffic)
US 40 is still open for the shunpikers. :clap:
95 South Exit 3: 273 East thru Univ of Delaware to 279.
I personally prefer Walsh Tract Rd. over Chestnut Hill. Its a direct left off of 896 and less hilly.I came here to suggest this. I think it works better since they closed the direct left onto 279.
But the bridge bringing Christina Pkwy. over Amtrak will *still* be only two lanes, right? Was it deliberately built that way to discourage shunpiking truckers (along with the signed weight restrictions)?
ixnay
But the bridge bringing Christina Pkwy. over Amtrak will *still* be only two lanes, right? Was it deliberately built that way to discourage shunpiking truckers (along with the signed weight restrictions)?
ixnay
DelDOT: TRAFFIC ALERT - UPDATED: Closure of Westbound Route 4/Christina Parkway for Reconstruction (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8624&type=Traffic)
US 40 is still open for the shunpikers. :clap:
https://twitter.com/DelawareDOT/status/1402245566319452169
Here's a screenshot of traffic conditions as of the time of this post - looks like an absolute nightmare :ded:
(https://i.ibb.co/dPkwJfG/DE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tqYTPH8)
Probably just the law of averages, as nothing significant has changed in that area lately. There's always been an issue of motorists merging at the last moment in that area, often quickly merging right to get to 295. Plenty of signage also to note which lanes to be in between DE 1 and the 95/295 split.
If these crashes are the result of someone doing what I just describe, hopefully they are involved (but not seriously injured) so they can be charged as appropriate, and insurance companies from those involved can go after the motorist that caused the issue.
Probably just the law of averages, as nothing significant has changed in that area lately. There's always been an issue of motorists merging at the last moment in that area, often quickly merging right to get to 295. Plenty of signage also to note which lanes to be in between DE 1 and the 95/295 split.
If these crashes are the result of someone doing what I just describe, hopefully they are involved (but not seriously injured) so they can be charged as appropriate, and insurance companies from those involved can go after the motorist that caused the issue.
It's worse now - road is closed all the way to the DE 896 exit after the toll plaza going NB
Probably just the law of averages, as nothing significant has changed in that area lately. There's always been an issue of motorists merging at the last moment in that area, often quickly merging right to get to 295. Plenty of signage also to note which lanes to be in between DE 1 and the 95/295 split.
If these crashes are the result of someone doing what I just describe, hopefully they are involved (but not seriously injured) so they can be charged as appropriate, and insurance companies from those involved can go after the motorist that caused the issue.
It's worse now - road is closed all the way to the DE 896 exit after the toll plaza going NB
With DelDOT now forcing NB traffic off at exit 1 (presumably an attempt to spread out the detour traffic), the resulting backup has now reached exit 109 in Maryland - a quick peak at the MDOT traffic camera at that interchange (https://chart.maryland.gov/video/video.php?feed=0f019fd7443a0032004606363d235daa) showed several vehicles reversing along the shoulder back to exit 109B (and MD/DE 279 appears to be quickly clogging up as well).
Although that's just a 2 mile backup.
What's worse: Traffic pays the $4 (or more) toll, then they're forced off the highway less than a mile later.
I'll say this for the original version of the I-295-US 13 and 40 interchange; At least that version didn't make it harder for southbound traffic on US 13 to get to northbound I-295. Now, they have to stop in the middle of the median and hope somebody lets them through.
To finalize the I-95 closure, I-95 and all ramps have been reopened as of last night. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8645)It looks like the press release was rescinded.
To finalize the I-95 closure, I-95 and all ramps have been reopened as of last night. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8645)It looks like the press release was rescinded.
To finalize the I-95 closure, I-95 and all ramps have been reopened as of last night. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8645)It looks like the press release was rescinded.
To finalize the I-95 closure, I-95 and all ramps have been reopened as of last night. (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8645)It looks like the press release was rescinded.
That is odd. I am not sure why they would rescind it. Doing a quick Google news search on "I-95 Delaware" does not show any new closures.
DelDOT: TRAFFIC ALERT - UPDATED: Closure of Westbound Route 4/Christina Parkway for Reconstruction (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8624&type=Traffic)
US 40 is still open for the shunpikers. :clap:
Another one related to the DE 279 widening. (TRAFFIC ALERT - Elkton Road Left Turn Lane Closed for Reconstruction (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8638))
6-7-2021 Update: TRAFFIC ALERT - UPDATED: Closure of Westbound Route 4/Christina Parkway for Reconstruction (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8624)
Traffic Information: Due to a crash, the Delaware Department of Transportation announces to motorists that I-495 Northbound at the I-95/I-495 Split and all ramps are also closed.
Traffic is being diverted to I-95 Northbound.
Traffic Information: The Delaware Department of Transportation announces to motorists that two left lanes are now OPEN to traffic on I-495 Northbound at the I-95/I-495 Split. Two right lanes remain closed on I-495 Northbound.
DelDOT:TRAFFIC ALERT - Incident Closes I-495 NB at the I-95/I-495 Split (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8657)QuoteTraffic Information: Due to a crash, the Delaware Department of Transportation announces to motorists that I-495 Northbound at the I-95/I-495 Split and all ramps are also closed.
Traffic is being diverted to I-95 Northbound.
10:16 AM Update: TRAFFIC ALERT - I-495 NB Two Left Lanes OPEN to traffic (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8657)QuoteTraffic Information: The Delaware Department of Transportation announces to motorists that two left lanes are now OPEN to traffic on I-495 Northbound at the I-95/I-495 Split. Two right lanes remain closed on I-495 Northbound.
I have not seen any further news releases on this since what I posted at 10:16 AM....
Right-of-way acquisition is expected to be completed this summer on the Route 16-Route 1 interchange project, followed by bid advertisement.
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The Rookery Golf Club, located near the intersection, will be required to relocate a portion of a cart path and a sand trap on the par-5 18th hole to install a safety net between the course and the northbound Route 1 off-ramp. Lank Road, which connects Route 1 and Broadkill Road beside the golf course, will be removed.
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In addition, deck work on the two Route 1 bridges over the Broadkill River is expected to begin this October. McLeod said the bridge where work is occurring will be closed to traffic, with motorists diverted to the other bridge, which will carry two-way traffic.
The project includes replacement of decking, beams and joints, and substructure work under the bridges.
Is DelDOT ever going to do improvements along US-113 in the nature they are doing SH-1? The continuous towns the route passes through, traffic signals, high traffic volumes, etc. warrants at minimum a free-flowing corridor, if not limited access highway.
Is DelDOT ever going to do improvements along US-113 in the nature they are doing SH-1? The continuous towns the route passes through, traffic signals, high traffic volumes, etc. warrants at minimum a free-flowing corridor, if not limited access highway.
DelDOT has been looking into it, but I do not think it is to DE 1 level for now. (Study (https://deldot.gov/information/projects/us113/), North Millsboro Bypass (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201912701))
Is DelDOT ever going to do improvements along US-113 in the nature they are doing SH-1? The continuous towns the route passes through, traffic signals, high traffic volumes, etc. warrants at minimum a free-flowing corridor, if not limited access highway.
DelDOT has been looking into it, but I do not think it is to DE 1 level for now. (Study (https://deldot.gov/information/projects/us113/), North Millsboro Bypass (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201912701))
They'd been pushing for a limited access highway between Milford and the Maryland line comparable to that of the DE 1 tollway. Local opposition got it canned though, which IMO was pretty short sighted. Sussex County is going to continue to grow regardless of whether the highway projects that'll make that growth bearable get completed.
DE 1's traffic volumes are higher. That said, DelDOT has plans to build 3 interchanges in the coming years along US 113, at DE 20 West (2023, includes a connector east to DE 24), DE 404 West (2024), and DE 16 (2027).Slightly, but not to a large extent. Both corridors are comparable. US-113 is also a regional corridor, DE-1 is a local connector to the beaches and Lewes.
They'd been pushing for a limited access highway between Milford and the Maryland line comparable to that of the DE 1 tollway. Local opposition got it canned though, which IMO was pretty short sighted. Sussex County is going to continue to grow regardless of whether the highway projects that'll make that growth bearable get completed.What a joke. The corridor should've been built out to the same design DE-1 is north of Dover, all the way south to Maryland, whether on entirely new location (put another toll on it), or partially upgrading the existing route / building new town bypasses. It's a shame some local opposition causes an entire corridor to be scaled back or removed, largely political driven ultimately. The corridor is needed to handle existing and future regional volumes, and a viable alternative for not only US-113, but also US-13.
There's actually a better corridor for a freeway, and that's halfway between 113 and 13 where density of development (towns or farms) is lowest and it then can tie into the Salisbury Bypass. But that's more expensive than upgrading in place.DE 1's traffic volumes are higher. That said, DelDOT has plans to build 3 interchanges in the coming years along US 113, at DE 20 West (2023, includes a connector east to DE 24), DE 404 West (2024), and DE 16 (2027).Slightly, but not to a large extent. Both corridors are comparable. US-113 is also a regional corridor, DE-1 is a local connector to the beaches and Lewes.They'd been pushing for a limited access highway between Milford and the Maryland line comparable to that of the DE 1 tollway. Local opposition got it canned though, which IMO was pretty short sighted. Sussex County is going to continue to grow regardless of whether the highway projects that'll make that growth bearable get completed.What a joke. The corridor should've been built out to the same design DE-1 is north of Dover, all the way south to Maryland, whether on entirely new location (put another toll on it), or partially upgrading the existing route / building new town bypasses. It's a shame some local opposition causes an entire corridor to be scaled back or removed, largely political driven ultimately. The corridor is needed to handle existing and future regional volumes, and a viable alternative for not only US-113, but also US-13.
At least they got the corridor north of Dover right.
An expressway design (free-flow, no signals) is planed in some areas it seems, but with the volumes the road handles during peak weekends and in the summer in general, full limited access is warranted. The local opposition is the same group of people that have to deal with turning onto a highway (where no signal or proposed interchange exists) with heavy, dense 70+ mph traffic, which is a significant safety hazard. It's not some lightly traveled corridor where spot upgrades are acceptable.
There's actually a better corridor for a freeway, and that's halfway between 113 and 13 where density of development (towns or farms) is lowest and it then can tie into the Salisbury Bypass. But that's more expensive than upgrading in place.Agreed, and that's what I ultimately think Delaware should focus on. Construct a new toll road between either Frederica or Milford (upgrading SH-1 north of there to interstate standards) to Salisbury. If Maryland was ever to get on board with interstate-standard upgrades, US-13 is a much easier corridor for them to upgrade compared to US-113 given that US-13 is limited access (albeit with intersections) for the most part in the entire state.
There's actually a better corridor for a freeway, and that's halfway between 113 and 13 where density of development (towns or farms) is lowest and it then can tie into the Salisbury Bypass. But that's more expensive than upgrading in place.Agreed, and that's what I ultimately think Delaware should focus on. Construct a new toll road between either Frederica or Milford (upgrading SH-1 north of there to interstate standards) to Salisbury. If Maryland was ever to get on board with interstate-standard upgrades, US-13 is a much easier corridor for them to upgrade compared to US-113 given that US-13 is limited access (albeit with intersections) for the most part in the entire state.
Virginia is what would be any blockage to an Eastern Shore freeway, and IMO the state that is due for the most upgrades. The sheer amount of towns you pass through and intersections is ridiculous.
There's actually a better corridor for a freeway, and that's halfway between 113 and 13 where density of development (towns or farms) is lowest and it then can tie into the Salisbury Bypass. But that's more expensive than upgrading in place.Agreed, and that's what I ultimately think Delaware should focus on. Construct a new toll road between either Frederica or Milford (upgrading SH-1 north of there to interstate standards) to Salisbury. If Maryland was ever to get on board with interstate-standard upgrades, US-13 is a much easier corridor for them to upgrade compared to US-113 given that US-13 is limited access (albeit with intersections) for the most part in the entire state.
Virginia is what would be any blockage to an Eastern Shore freeway, and IMO the state that is due for the most upgrades. The sheer amount of towns you pass through and intersections is ridiculous.
The bigger concern Delaware has really amounts to the ever expanding communities springing up around its and Maryland's beach communities, not so much traffic spanning the length of the peninsula to the CBBT. In my opinion, the closer any facility is to US 113 and points east, the better. A facility further west would certainly run into fewer ROW issues, but I don't think it'd serve to alleviate near as much traffic around areas like Georgetown / Millsboro and points east especially given how short the area is on good E - W capacity. Much of DelDOT's original plans went eastward around significant towns, most notably with a significant eastern bypass of the Millsboro - Dagsboro - Frankford area. As complicated as it would've been to build it compared to a western bypass, I think it would've been far more beneficial to the area in the long run in terms of traffic flow. Millsboro is getting to be a mess even outside the summer months, and I'm not super convinced that the DE 24 bypass they're going to be kicking off soon is going to make much of a difference.
(For DE 9) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Portion of Route 9 to be Closed for Replacement of Tidal Flood Gates (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8697)
I know I am being a tad redundant but I have to ask:
1. The construction at the junction of SB I-295 and I-95, what is being done and when will it be completed?
-I believe I was told they were making it so the shoulder lane on one side could be used for travel during peak times, but given the clearance and time it has taken, this seems like something more is being done.
2. Back in 2017 there was a lot of construction on I-295 between I-95 and the DEMB, what exactly was done?
Are there now EZPass arches on DE 1 between the DE 299 (Odessa/Middletown) and North Smyrna interchanges (or on ramps)? DelDOT's toll calculator shows a toll between that pair of interchanges (which are consecutive without an intervening interchange), but I don't see any arches in that stretch on GoogleSat.
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It might be time to say goodbye to DE Route 34, DelDOT looks poised to remove signage for it by this summer:
https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf (https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf)QuoteDeclassification of SR 34 may indirectly encourage drivers to use alternate routes such as SR 48 to the north, or SR 2 to the south
It might be time to say goodbye to DE Route 34, DelDOT looks poised to remove signage for it by this summer:
https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf (https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf)QuoteDeclassification of SR 34 may indirectly encourage drivers to use alternate routes such as SR 48 to the north, or SR 2 to the south
And what does DelDOT do two years later? Post signs for "Alt Route to Wilmington" for Faulkland Road east on SR 141 north from SR 2/Kirkwood Hwy...
Spotted two of these today.
It might be time to say goodbye to DE Route 34, DelDOT looks poised to remove signage for it by this summer:
https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf (https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf)QuoteDeclassification of SR 34 may indirectly encourage drivers to use alternate routes such as SR 48 to the north, or SR 2 to the south
And what does DelDOT do two years later? Post signs for "Alt Route to Wilmington" for Faulkland Road east on SR 141 north from SR 2/Kirkwood Hwy...
Spotted two of these today.
It might be time to say goodbye to DE Route 34, DelDOT looks poised to remove signage for it by this summer:
https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf (https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/FaulklandRoadDeclassificatioofDE34/pdf/Faulkland.pdf)QuoteDeclassification of SR 34 may indirectly encourage drivers to use alternate routes such as SR 48 to the north, or SR 2 to the south
And what does DelDOT do two years later? Post signs for "Alt Route to Wilmington" for Faulkland Road east on SR 141 north from SR 2/Kirkwood Hwy...
Spotted two of these today.
They put a ton of those signs up all over the place in response to the I-95 construction through town. I have to wonder what interstate trips could possibly be using Faulkland Road as a reasonable detour though.
https://www.wdel.com/news/cash-collection-temporarily-suspended-at-newark-toll-plaza/article_faf6317e-ffcb-11eb-b225-2b7c6a0ebb6e.html
Might as well switch towards AET while we are at it... :hmmm:
https://www.wdel.com/news/cash-collection-temporarily-suspended-at-newark-toll-plaza/article_faf6317e-ffcb-11eb-b225-2b7c6a0ebb6e.html
Might as well switch towards AET while we are at it... :hmmm:
https://www.wdel.com/news/cash-collection-temporarily-suspended-at-newark-toll-plaza/article_faf6317e-ffcb-11eb-b225-2b7c6a0ebb6e.html
Might as well switch towards AET while we are at it... :hmmm:
If months of Covid didn't end collections, I don't think a small sewage leak will change their minds at this time either.
https://www.wdel.com/news/cash-collection-temporarily-suspended-at-newark-toll-plaza/article_faf6317e-ffcb-11eb-b225-2b7c6a0ebb6e.html
Might as well switch towards AET while we are at it... :hmmm:
If months of Covid didn't end collections, I don't think a small sewage leak will change their minds at this time either.
Maybe they would if the mainline plazas on both I-95 & DE 1 didn't already have express lanes, but yes DelDOT does seem content with their current tolling setup.
(In a perfect world, a 3rd lane would be added to the express lanes thru the Newark Plaza...the past couple times I've been thru there, I've noticed that most of the traffic squeezes into the 2 E-ZPass lanes while very little traffic takes the outer 2 lanes that feed into the toll booths. But given that the entire plaza was just reconstructed about a decade ago and that widening the express lanes would likely require some substantial reconstruction, I can't imagine it'll happen anytime soon - DelDOT going fully AET and simply removing the booths at some point in the future is probably the more likely outcome.)
https://www.wdel.com/news/cash-collection-temporarily-suspended-at-newark-toll-plaza/article_faf6317e-ffcb-11eb-b225-2b7c6a0ebb6e.html
Might as well switch towards AET while we are at it... :hmmm:
If months of Covid didn't end collections, I don't think a small sewage leak will change their minds at this time either.
Maybe they would if the mainline plazas on both I-95 & DE 1 didn't already have express lanes, but yes DelDOT does seem content with their current tolling setup.
(In a perfect world, a 3rd lane would be added to the express lanes thru the Newark Plaza...the past couple times I've been thru there, I've noticed that most of the traffic squeezes into the 2 E-ZPass lanes while very little traffic takes the outer 2 lanes that feed into the toll booths. But given that the entire plaza was just reconstructed about a decade ago and that widening the express lanes would likely require some substantial reconstruction, I can't imagine it'll happen anytime soon - DelDOT going fully AET and simply removing the booths at some point in the future is probably the more likely outcome.)
https://www.wdel.com/news/cash-collection-temporarily-suspended-at-newark-toll-plaza/article_faf6317e-ffcb-11eb-b225-2b7c6a0ebb6e.html
Might as well switch towards AET while we are at it... :hmmm:
If months of Covid didn't end collections, I don't think a small sewage leak will change their minds at this time either.
Maybe they would if the mainline plazas on both I-95 & DE 1 didn't already have express lanes, but yes DelDOT does seem content with their current tolling setup.
(In a perfect world, a 3rd lane would be added to the express lanes thru the Newark Plaza...the past couple times I've been thru there, I've noticed that most of the traffic squeezes into the 2 E-ZPass lanes while very little traffic takes the outer 2 lanes that feed into the toll booths. But given that the entire plaza was just reconstructed about a decade ago and that widening the express lanes would likely require some substantial reconstruction, I can't imagine it'll happen anytime soon - DelDOT going fully AET and simply removing the booths at some point in the future is probably the more likely outcome.)
If anything, the Delaware Memorial Bridge toll is the most likely candidate for AET reconstruction anytime in the near future. Every other booth in the state flows perfectly fine.
That plaza flows perfectly fine also. It's the squeezing onto I-95 that kills it.https://www.wdel.com/news/cash-collection-temporarily-suspended-at-newark-toll-plaza/article_faf6317e-ffcb-11eb-b225-2b7c6a0ebb6e.html
Might as well switch towards AET while we are at it... :hmmm:
If months of Covid didn't end collections, I don't think a small sewage leak will change their minds at this time either.
Maybe they would if the mainline plazas on both I-95 & DE 1 didn't already have express lanes, but yes DelDOT does seem content with their current tolling setup.
(In a perfect world, a 3rd lane would be added to the express lanes thru the Newark Plaza...the past couple times I've been thru there, I've noticed that most of the traffic squeezes into the 2 E-ZPass lanes while very little traffic takes the outer 2 lanes that feed into the toll booths. But given that the entire plaza was just reconstructed about a decade ago and that widening the express lanes would likely require some substantial reconstruction, I can't imagine it'll happen anytime soon - DelDOT going fully AET and simply removing the booths at some point in the future is probably the more likely outcome.)
If anything, the Delaware Memorial Bridge toll is the most likely candidate for AET reconstruction anytime in the near future. Every other booth in the state flows perfectly fine.
That's true, I meant to point out more that every other booth had free-flowing options. Worded that poorly. Between the age of the booths and the lack of any sort of express lanes I'd expect it to get a significant rebuild before any other facility in the state, though it definitely shouldn't be a priority project for the DRBA.That plaza flows perfectly fine also. It's the squeezing onto I-95 that kills it.https://www.wdel.com/news/cash-collection-temporarily-suspended-at-newark-toll-plaza/article_faf6317e-ffcb-11eb-b225-2b7c6a0ebb6e.html
Might as well switch towards AET while we are at it... :hmmm:
If months of Covid didn't end collections, I don't think a small sewage leak will change their minds at this time either.
Maybe they would if the mainline plazas on both I-95 & DE 1 didn't already have express lanes, but yes DelDOT does seem content with their current tolling setup.
(In a perfect world, a 3rd lane would be added to the express lanes thru the Newark Plaza...the past couple times I've been thru there, I've noticed that most of the traffic squeezes into the 2 E-ZPass lanes while very little traffic takes the outer 2 lanes that feed into the toll booths. But given that the entire plaza was just reconstructed about a decade ago and that widening the express lanes would likely require some substantial reconstruction, I can't imagine it'll happen anytime soon - DelDOT going fully AET and simply removing the booths at some point in the future is probably the more likely outcome.)
If anything, the Delaware Memorial Bridge toll is the most likely candidate for AET reconstruction anytime in the near future. Every other booth in the state flows perfectly fine.
That's true, I meant to point out more that every other booth had free-flowing options. Worded that poorly. Between the age of the booths and the lack of any sort of express lanes I'd expect it to get a significant rebuild before any other facility in the state, though it definitely shouldn't be a priority project for the DRBA.That plaza flows perfectly fine also. It's the squeezing onto I-95 that kills it.https://www.wdel.com/news/cash-collection-temporarily-suspended-at-newark-toll-plaza/article_faf6317e-ffcb-11eb-b225-2b7c6a0ebb6e.html
Might as well switch towards AET while we are at it... :hmmm:
If months of Covid didn't end collections, I don't think a small sewage leak will change their minds at this time either.
Maybe they would if the mainline plazas on both I-95 & DE 1 didn't already have express lanes, but yes DelDOT does seem content with their current tolling setup.
(In a perfect world, a 3rd lane would be added to the express lanes thru the Newark Plaza...the past couple times I've been thru there, I've noticed that most of the traffic squeezes into the 2 E-ZPass lanes while very little traffic takes the outer 2 lanes that feed into the toll booths. But given that the entire plaza was just reconstructed about a decade ago and that widening the express lanes would likely require some substantial reconstruction, I can't imagine it'll happen anytime soon - DelDOT going fully AET and simply removing the booths at some point in the future is probably the more likely outcome.)
If anything, the Delaware Memorial Bridge toll is the most likely candidate for AET reconstruction anytime in the near future. Every other booth in the state flows perfectly fine.
That's true, I meant to point out more that every other booth had free-flowing options. Worded that poorly. Between the age of the booths and the lack of any sort of express lanes I'd expect it to get a significant rebuild before any other facility in the state, though it definitely shouldn't be a priority project for the DRBA.That plaza flows perfectly fine also. It's the squeezing onto I-95 that kills it.https://www.wdel.com/news/cash-collection-temporarily-suspended-at-newark-toll-plaza/article_faf6317e-ffcb-11eb-b225-2b7c6a0ebb6e.html (https://www.wdel.com/news/cash-collection-temporarily-suspended-at-newark-toll-plaza/article_faf6317e-ffcb-11eb-b225-2b7c6a0ebb6e.html)
Might as well switch towards AET while we are at it... :hmmm:
If months of Covid didn't end collections, I don't think a small sewage leak will change their minds at this time either.
Maybe they would if the mainline plazas on both I-95 & DE 1 didn't already have express lanes, but yes DelDOT does seem content with their current tolling setup.
(In a perfect world, a 3rd lane would be added to the express lanes thru the Newark Plaza...the past couple times I've been thru there, I've noticed that most of the traffic squeezes into the 2 E-ZPass lanes while very little traffic takes the outer 2 lanes that feed into the toll booths. But given that the entire plaza was just reconstructed about a decade ago and that widening the express lanes would likely require some substantial reconstruction, I can't imagine it'll happen anytime soon - DelDOT going fully AET and simply removing the booths at some point in the future is probably the more likely outcome.)
If anything, the Delaware Memorial Bridge toll is the most likely candidate for AET reconstruction anytime in the near future. Every other booth in the state flows perfectly fine.
What I don't like is how the lanes are striped after you go thru the plaza.
Here's an overhead view... https://goo.gl/maps/dLKfsG8RYMADA1ys8 (https://goo.gl/maps/dLKfsG8RYMADA1ys8) . You'll need to move it around to see everything, and even then a still picture just doesn't justify the issue because you're seeing it as a still picture, not as you're speeding up to 50 or 60 mph with other traffic right beside you.
Looking at the lanes from left to right (or in the case of the link I provided, from bottom to top), there are 13 toll lanes. By the time you get to Route 9:
Lanes 1 - 5 Merge into 1 lane. (Lanes 1 - 4 are typically EZ Pass only lanes).
Lane 6 continues as a single lane.
Lane 7 continues as a single lane.
Lane 8 continues as a single lane.
Lanes 9 - 13 merge into the C/D exit lane for DE 9. (Lanes 10 & 11 are typically EZ Pass only lanes)
As a result, there's an unnecessary amount of merging of traffic into a single lane for the 5 left toll lanes. The 2 middle lanes have their own, unimpeded lane leaving the toll plaza, and the 5 right toll lanes merge into a single lane that's marked for an exit, forcing most of them to merge over again. While DE 9 is a relatively lightly used exit just after the plaza, there's no signage prior to the plaza indicating that motorists should try to keep to the right at the plaza.
When normal, everyday traffic goes thru the plaza, it works well. When motorists not familiar with the traffic patterns use the plaza (especially weekend/holiday traffic), there's a lot more weaving after the plaza than should be necessary.
What I don't like is how the lanes are striped after you go thru the plaza.
Here's an overhead view... https://goo.gl/maps/dLKfsG8RYMADA1ys8 . You'll need to move it around to see everything, and even then a still picture just doesn't justify the issue because you're seeing it as a still picture, not as you're speeding up to 50 or 60 mph with other traffic right beside you.
Looking at the lanes from left to right (or in the case of the link I provided, from bottom to top), there are 13 toll lanes. By the time you get to Route 9:
Lanes 1 - 5 Merge into 1 lane. (Lanes 1 - 4 are typically EZ Pass only lanes).
Lane 6 continues as a single lane.
Lane 7 continues as a single lane.
Lane 8 continues as a single lane.
Lanes 9 - 13 merge into the C/D exit lane for DE 9. (Lanes 10 & 11 are typically EZ Pass only lanes)
As a result, there's an unnecessary amount of merging of traffic into a single lane for the 5 left toll lanes. The 2 middle lanes have their own, unimpeded lane leaving the toll plaza, and the 5 right toll lanes merge into a single lane that's marked for an exit, forcing most of them to merge over again. While DE 9 is a relatively lightly used exit just after the plaza, there's no signage prior to the plaza indicating that motorists should try to keep to the right at the plaza.
When normal, everyday traffic goes thru the plaza, it works well. When motorists not familiar with the traffic patterns use the plaza (especially weekend/holiday traffic), there's a lot more weaving after the plaza than should be necessary.
That throws me off every time I head through that area as I usually keep left to hit those EZPass lanes.
I've always been more fond of the way Maryland separates it into chunks and eases those chunks together coming off the Tydings Bridge toll.
What I don't like is how the lanes are striped after you go thru the plaza...
That throws me off every time I head through that area as I usually keep left to hit those EZPass lanes.
Totally agreed here - I usually hit the E-ZPass lanes towards the right for the exact reason of avoiding the crunch of cars merging together from those left 5 toll lanes.
The part I find ironic is that DRBA does stripe the lanes to gradually fan out (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6958408,-75.5410465,3a,37.3y,282.73h,85.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6yNFaqf9r9lR-oMFaiqvtw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?hl=en) approaching the toll plaza...so why they didn't do that on the side that's (arguably) more important, I will never know!
I've always been more fond of the way Maryland separates it into chunks and eases those chunks together coming off the Tydings Bridge toll.
That was a relatively recent addition when MDTA resurfaced the approach/departure from the toll plaza...prior to that, it was a massive unmarked blob (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.5888734,-76.0720656,3a,75y,52.77h,86.46t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s36dJu83QptUBDaUoRrnkog!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1?hl=en) with lane lines only resuming once the roadway narrowed back to the standard 3-lane width.
(And of course, the removal of that toll plaza is now well underway.)
Parts are TriState Mall are being demolished while another section is completely shuttered. The signal for it on SR 92 (Naamans Road) should be removed at this point.
I know I am being a tad redundant but I have to ask:
1. The construction at the junction of SB I-295 and I-95, what is being done and when will it be completed?
-I believe I was told they were making it so the shoulder lane on one side could be used for travel during peak times, but given the clearance and time it has taken, this seems like something more is being done.
295 will remain separate from 95 for a bit longer than present. It'll go under 141 before it merges with I-95.
The shoulder lane is a completely separate project. I haven't seen anything done about that, and don't know its timeline.2. Back in 2017 there was a lot of construction on I-295 between I-95 and the DEMB, what exactly was done?
The ramp from US 13/40 North to I-295 South was moved from being a flyover to a cloverleaf ramp. I-495 North lost its "Exit Only" lane, and the right lane became an exit lane for both I-495 North and I-95 North. That, in turn, modified I-295 South to be 3 continuous lanes from the toll plaza to the DE 141 Exit, where the left lane became an Exit Only lane for 141 South.
The project now will do what exactly?
-Will it add a lane on I-295 SB so it retains 3 lanes from the 141 exit to the 95 merge (will that be the shoulder)?
-Where will the merge occur, just how far after 141 underpass?
-Why would the 13/40 flyover to cloverleaf help traffic? Normally flyovers are better.
-Why would the 13/40 flyover to cloverleaf help traffic? Normally flyovers are better.
1) OK ok so let me get this straight...right now I-295 SB from the DE Bridge toll plaza is 4 lanes to the 95 NB exit
3 lanes to the 141 exit
2 lanes from the 141 exit to the 95 merge just before the 141 overpass
The project now will do what exactly?
-Will it add a lane on I-295 SB so it retains 3 lanes from the 141 exit to the 95 merge (will that be the shoulder)?
-Where will the merge occur, just how far after 141 underpass?
I guess DelDOT caught the Exit 0 mistake on I-495 (for the I-295 exit) because the exit number was gone when I drove through today.
I guess DelDOT caught the Exit 0 mistake on I-495 (for the I-295 exit) because the exit number was gone when I drove through today.
The lone sign for Left Exit 0 was still posted as of August 24. Photo from 12-23-18:
(https://www.aaroads.com/de/495/i-495-s-exit-001-1.jpg)
The remaining overheads omit an exit number with yellow/black Left tabs
WTF happened tonight?
Was driving at 7 PM SB on 295 approaching the ramp to 95….when all the sudden cops blockaded the exit.
I was maybe 12 rows back, was able to luckily get on 95 N and detour at MD street to 95 south.
When I got on 95 south, at the 295 merge no cars were coming.
Construction?
Freak accident?
WTF happened tonight?
Was driving at 7 PM SB on 295 approaching the ramp to 95….when all the sudden cops blockaded the exit.
I was maybe 12 rows back, was able to luckily get on 95 N and detour at MD street to 95 south.
When I got on 95 south, at the 295 merge no cars were coming.
Construction?
Freak accident?
WTF happened tonight?
Was driving at 7 PM SB on 295 approaching the ramp to 95….when all the sudden cops blockaded the exit.
I was maybe 12 rows back, was able to luckily get on 95 N and detour at MD street to 95 south.
When I got on 95 south, at the 295 merge no cars were coming.
Construction?
Freak accident?
Presidential motorcade if I had to guess. I believe Biden was home in Delaware this past weekend, they usually shut down SR 141 and all cross streets whenever he goes back and forth to DC.
WTF happened tonight?
Was driving at 7 PM SB on 295 approaching the ramp to 95….when all the sudden cops blockaded the exit.
I was maybe 12 rows back, was able to luckily get on 95 N and detour at MD street to 95 south.
When I got on 95 south, at the 295 merge no cars were coming.
Construction?
Freak accident?
Presidential motorcade if I had to guess. I believe Biden was home in Delaware this past weekend, they usually shut down SR 141 and all cross streets whenever he goes back and forth to DC.
I thought of that too...but then 95 South would've been stopped as well.
(For DE 1) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Nighttime Closure of Route 1 for Overhead Sign Installation (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8766&type=Traffic)
There must be overhead replacement going on in this area at the moment.
No. It was not a presidential motorcade. There were no motorcycles and the cops were DE state troopers.WTF happened tonight?
Was driving at 7 PM SB on 295 approaching the ramp to 95….when all the sudden cops blockaded the exit.
I was maybe 12 rows back, was able to luckily get on 95 N and detour at MD street to 95 south.
When I got on 95 south, at the 295 merge no cars were coming.
Construction?
Freak accident?
Presidential motorcade if I had to guess. I believe Biden was home in Delaware this past weekend, they usually shut down SR 141 and all cross streets whenever he goes back and forth to DC.
No. It was not a presidential motorcade. There were no motorcycles and the cops were DE state troopers.WTF happened tonight?
Was driving at 7 PM SB on 295 approaching the ramp to 95….when all the sudden cops blockaded the exit.
I was maybe 12 rows back, was able to luckily get on 95 N and detour at MD street to 95 south.
When I got on 95 south, at the 295 merge no cars were coming.
Construction?
Freak accident?
Presidential motorcade if I had to guess. I believe Biden was home in Delaware this past weekend, they usually shut down SR 141 and all cross streets whenever he goes back and forth to DC.
WTF was this, I mean WHO plans this on Labor Day?
No. It was not a presidential motorcade. There were no motorcycles and the cops were DE state troopers.WTF happened tonight?
Was driving at 7 PM SB on 295 approaching the ramp to 95….when all the sudden cops blockaded the exit.
I was maybe 12 rows back, was able to luckily get on 95 N and detour at MD street to 95 south.
When I got on 95 south, at the 295 merge no cars were coming.
Construction?
Freak accident?
Presidential motorcade if I had to guess. I believe Biden was home in Delaware this past weekend, they usually shut down SR 141 and all cross streets whenever he goes back and forth to DC.
WTF was this, I mean WHO plans this on Labor Day?
Delaware does tend to screw over the out-of-town motorists travelling thru by scheduling construction on holiday weekends frequently. I recall reading many years ago that DelDOT "apologized" for shutting down 2 of (then) 4 lanes on 95 during Columbus Day weekend to do roadwork, but that wasn't an anomaly...they do holiday road work frequently.
DelDOT's latest FY23 - FY28 CTP (https://deldot.gov/Publications/reports/CTP/index.shtml) is available to poke through, offering a glimpse at upcoming projects over the next 8 or so years. Notable projects include 3 more interchanges along US 113 in Sussex County, a 2 mile extension of Mulberry Knoll Road northward to US 9 in Lewes, and a variety of smaller improvements projects throughout the state.
Poking through the spend plan (https://deldot.gov/Publications/reports/CTP/pdfs/FY23-FY28%20Development%20Plan.pdf) reveals a bit of a deeper glimpse into the possible projects in the pipeline:
- The SR 1 / US 13 Tybouts Corner interchange now has its own rebuild project earmarked for $70m.
- The Tyler McConnell Bridge rebuild on SR 141 now specifically notes the project as extending to Alapocas Drive, indicating some possible significant reworking to SR 141's alignment and the elimination of the turn SR 141 traffic has to make to stay on the route.
- The US 40 / SR 7 intersection is still earmarked for $50m in construction costs, making me wonder if they're considering grade separation at the location.
- The US 113 North / South Improvements project is still earmarked for $261m. Not sure if this means DelDOT's keeping the idea of a significant freeway bypass alive around some of the larger towns along US 113, or if they're just keeping the money set aside for on-alignment improvements.
I guess DelDOT caught the Exit 0 mistake on I-495 (for the I-295 exit) because the exit number was gone when I drove through today.
The lone sign for Left Exit 0 was still posted as of August 24. Photo from 12-23-18:
(https://www.aaroads.com/de/495/i-495-s-exit-001-1.jpg)
The remaining overheads omit an exit number with yellow/black Left tabs
I guess DelDOT caught the Exit 0 mistake on I-495 (for the I-295 exit) because the exit number was gone when I drove through today.
The lone sign for Left Exit 0 was still posted as of August 24. Photo from 12-23-18:
(https://www.aaroads.com/de/495/i-495-s-exit-001-1.jpg)
The remaining overheads omit an exit number with yellow/black Left tabs
I saw that too today. I thought the signs further south had exit tabs, but maybe my memory failed me.
I did notice new signs on NB I-95 at the 495 split that say only 2 axle vehicles and buses are to proceed through the construction zone. I guess there have been too many wrecks involving tractor trailers. I didn’t see any signs in reverse coming from PA.
Not sure the multiple access points is an excuse for not enforcing on I-95 southbound. There are only three points you need to watch - south of 202 (for any trucks proceeding past the exit), the North Jackson Street on-ramp, and the ramp from the Riverfront area. When they switch sides next year, I imagine that goes down to two.
There is a big and disastrous change for motorists on 295 South approaching 95 South.
The big change: Traffic on 295 South has now switched over to a new roadway that maintains separation of 295 from 95 for another 1/2 mile or so, after motorists have traveled under the DE 141 Overpasses. https://www.sr141improvements.com/2021/09/10/new-traffic-pattern-on-i95-i295-new-i-295-travel-lanes/
The disastrous change: Motorists on 295 South now don't have 2 thru lanes after the merge with 95 South. Just after the merge point, the left lane from 295 ends, effectively narrowing 295 down to 1 lane just as it merges with 95! I took notice to this Friday evening. Traffic on 295 South was backed up from US 13 to I-95. I figured just normal Friday evening volume. Nope...it was due to this very ill-advised lane merge! Traffic otherwise was fairly light from this point on South to Baltimore. I believe the change greatly benefits southbound motorists coming from 95 & 495 from Wilmington, which will now have 4 continuous lanes thru the interchange area. While traffic on I-95 can be heavy, it didn't seem to abnormally congest. Instead, they will severely impact traffic coming from NJ, which gets horribly pinched as it approaches 95.
Before I posted this, I tried doing some research. DelDOT appears to be keeping this aspect of the project very, very quiet, as the closest hint I could find easily regarding this lane loss is in a vague, color-coded project phase status page, which doesn't show the actual lanes on I-295: https://live-deldot-sr-141.pantheonsite.io/construction-information/
There is a big and disastrous change for motorists on 295 South approaching 95 South.
The big change: Traffic on 295 South has now switched over to a new roadway that maintains separation of 295 from 95 for another 1/2 mile or so, after motorists have traveled under the DE 141 Overpasses. https://www.sr141improvements.com/2021/09/10/new-traffic-pattern-on-i95-i295-new-i-295-travel-lanes/
The disastrous change: Motorists on 295 South now don't have 2 thru lanes after the merge with 95 South. Just after the merge point, the left lane from 295 ends, effectively narrowing 295 down to 1 lane just as it merges with 95! I took notice to this Friday evening. Traffic on 295 South was backed up from US 13 to I-95. I figured just normal Friday evening volume. Nope...it was due to this very ill-advised lane merge! Traffic otherwise was fairly light from this point on South to Baltimore. I believe the change greatly benefits southbound motorists coming from 95 & 495 from Wilmington, which will now have 4 continuous lanes thru the interchange area. While traffic on I-95 can be heavy, it didn't seem to abnormally congest. Instead, they will severely impact traffic coming from NJ, which gets horribly pinched as it approaches 95.
Before I posted this, I tried doing some research. DelDOT appears to be keeping this aspect of the project very, very quiet, as the closest hint I could find easily regarding this lane loss is in a vague, color-coded project phase status page, which doesn't show the actual lanes on I-295: https://live-deldot-sr-141.pantheonsite.io/construction-information/
We talked about this a while back, (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2542741#msg2542741) I'd found evidence of this change in the construction plans but it definitely wasn't advertised as being a major part of the project anywhere. It didn't occur to me how much of a potential mess that altered lane drop was going to create, I'm curious to see how long it holds before they reconsider the layout.
There is a big and disastrous change for motorists on 295 South approaching 95 South.
The big change: Traffic on 295 South has now switched over to a new roadway that maintains separation of 295 from 95 for another 1/2 mile or so, after motorists have traveled under the DE 141 Overpasses. https://www.sr141improvements.com/2021/09/10/new-traffic-pattern-on-i95-i295-new-i-295-travel-lanes/
The disastrous change: Motorists on 295 South now don't have 2 thru lanes after the merge with 95 South. Just after the merge point, the left lane from 295 ends, effectively narrowing 295 down to 1 lane just as it merges with 95! I took notice to this Friday evening. Traffic on 295 South was backed up from US 13 to I-95. I figured just normal Friday evening volume. Nope...it was due to this very ill-advised lane merge! Traffic otherwise was fairly light from this point on South to Baltimore. I believe the change greatly benefits southbound motorists coming from 95 & 495 from Wilmington, which will now have 4 continuous lanes thru the interchange area. While traffic on I-95 can be heavy, it didn't seem to abnormally congest. Instead, they will severely impact traffic coming from NJ, which gets horribly pinched as it approaches 95.
Before I posted this, I tried doing some research. DelDOT appears to be keeping this aspect of the project very, very quiet, as the closest hint I could find easily regarding this lane loss is in a vague, color-coded project phase status page, which doesn't show the actual lanes on I-295: https://live-deldot-sr-141.pantheonsite.io/construction-information/
That movement to DE-1 is common for more travelers now that the US-301 Middletown bypass is open. It provides an alternate route to DC and points south vs. taking I-95.
That movement to DE-1 is common for more travelers now that the US-301 Middletown bypass is open. It provides an alternate route to DC and points south vs. taking I-95.
The 301 exit is south of the US 13 merge, so you could still take 13, if not for all the traffic lights
That movement to DE-1 is common for more travelers now that the US-301 Middletown bypass is open. It provides an alternate route to DC and points south vs. taking I-95.
The 301 exit is south of the US 13 merge, so you could still take 13, if not for all the traffic lights
Even though using 13 is 4 miles shorter, those lights generally create a longer trip overall. I don't know what most people do, but going south, I almost always just take 295 to 95 South to 1 South. Heading North, I'm more inclined to take US 13, mostly because 95 North approaching 295 is jammed the times I'm coming thru the area.
There is a big and disastrous change for motorists on 295 South approaching 95 South.
The big change: Traffic on 295 South has now switched over to a new roadway that maintains separation of 295 from 95 for another 1/2 mile or so, after motorists have traveled under the DE 141 Overpasses. https://www.sr141improvements.com/2021/09/10/new-traffic-pattern-on-i95-i295-new-i-295-travel-lanes/
The disastrous change: Motorists on 295 South now don't have 2 thru lanes after the merge with 95 South. Just after the merge point, the left lane from 295 ends, effectively narrowing 295 down to 1 lane just as it merges with 95! I took notice to this Friday evening. Traffic on 295 South was backed up from US 13 to I-95. I figured just normal Friday evening volume. Nope...it was due to this very ill-advised lane merge! Traffic otherwise was fairly light from this point on South to Baltimore. I believe the change greatly benefits southbound motorists coming from 95 & 495 from Wilmington, which will now have 4 continuous lanes thru the interchange area. While traffic on I-95 can be heavy, it didn't seem to abnormally congest. Instead, they will severely impact traffic coming from NJ, which gets horribly pinched as it approaches 95.
Before I posted this, I tried doing some research. DelDOT appears to be keeping this aspect of the project very, very quiet, as the closest hint I could find easily regarding this lane loss is in a vague, color-coded project phase status page, which doesn't show the actual lanes on I-295: https://live-deldot-sr-141.pantheonsite.io/construction-information/
To me, an equally significant disaster is giving SB I-295 traffic a half-mile less to cross four lanes over to the right for SR 1. I don’t know how much traffic makes that move (I imagine most beach traffic, if anyone from NJ goes to the Delaware beaches over the Jersey Shore, would exit onto US 13) but you would definitely have traffic for tax-free shopping at Christiana Mall make that move.
295 is so bad that enough people exit to 13 that they generally balance each other and you're better off using 9.That movement to DE-1 is common for more travelers now that the US-301 Middletown bypass is open. It provides an alternate route to DC and points south vs. taking I-95.
The 301 exit is south of the US 13 merge, so you could still take 13, if not for all the traffic lights
Even though using 13 is 4 miles shorter, those lights generally create a longer trip overall. I don't know what most people do, but going south, I almost always just take 295 to 95 South to 1 South. Heading North, I'm more inclined to take US 13, mostly because 95 North approaching 295 is jammed the times I'm coming thru the area.
^ IIRC, Delaware also signs the main route to/from Dover and the NJTP as following US-13 as opposed to DE-1 and I-95/I-295.
And as you mention, if all traffic was truly following the freeway route, how much worse would traffic be on there?
US-13 is at grade, but it’s still a higher quality design and isn’t the worst. I’ve personally utilized both routes before, though usually just follow US-13.
In reality, US-13 should just be upgraded to a full freeway design between DE-1 and I-295, but that’s likely to never happen. It almost serves as a “gap” in the freeway system for that heavy traffic movement between DE-1 and the NJTP.
Delaware doesn't really sign any route as the main route. The DRBA has signage (advertising) to get to the CBBT and the Cape May Lewis Ferry, which instructs motorists to us Exit 4A to DE 1 (They apparently forget to omit that Exit 4A is on I-95 South!) https://goo.gl/maps/YfxfbukWcsDXmYaR6Northbound, at the US-13 / DE-1 split, US-13 is signed as “To I-295” and “NJ-NY” .
The BGS for the 13/40 exit coming up is signed for Dover and Wilmington, as they are appropriate control cities for those routes.Which is where Dover is… much further south.
But for motorists who are eventually getting to DE 1 and points south (across the C&D canal), no transportation department encourages any specific route.
Delaware doesn't really sign any route as the main route. The DRBA has signage (advertising) to get to the CBBT and the Cape May Lewis Ferry, which instructs motorists to us Exit 4A to DE 1 (They apparently forget to omit that Exit 4A is on I-95 South!) https://goo.gl/maps/YfxfbukWcsDXmYaR6Northbound, at the US-13 / DE-1 split, US-13 is signed as “To I-295” and “NJ-NY” .
https://goo.gl/maps/w89HUZ3jPB7GyDzv7QuoteThe BGS for the 13/40 exit coming up is signed for Dover and Wilmington, as they are appropriate control cities for those routes.Which is where Dover is… much further south.
But for motorists who are eventually getting to DE 1 and points south (across the C&D canal), no transportation department encourages any specific route.
Yeah I would leave things exactly the way they are (of course improving I-295 and I-95 even more in the area would certainly be welcomed). I use either the all freeway route or the US 13 route, depends on the time of day and/or wether or not I want to make a stop. It's actually pretty nice to have that option there.I would use all that swampland and build a freeway connecting DE 1 directly into I-295, bypassing the stretch of I-95.
Yeah I would leave things exactly the way they are (of course improving I-295 and I-95 even more in the area would certainly be welcomed). I use either the all freeway route or the US 13 route, depends on the time of day and/or wether or not I want to make a stop. It's actually pretty nice to have that option there.I would use all that swampland and build a freeway connecting DE 1 directly into I-295, bypassing the stretch of I-95.
Why not? An elevated freeway with minimal disturbance, a ton of unused land sitting there.Yeah I would leave things exactly the way they are (of course improving I-295 and I-95 even more in the area would certainly be welcomed). I use either the all freeway route or the US 13 route, depends on the time of day and/or wether or not I want to make a stop. It's actually pretty nice to have that option there.I would use all that swampland and build a freeway connecting DE 1 directly into I-295, bypassing the stretch of I-95.
I hope you're not serious.
Why not? An elevated freeway with minimal disturbance, a ton of unused land sitting there.Yeah I would leave things exactly the way they are (of course improving I-295 and I-95 even more in the area would certainly be welcomed). I use either the all freeway route or the US 13 route, depends on the time of day and/or wether or not I want to make a stop. It's actually pretty nice to have that option there.I would use all that swampland and build a freeway connecting DE 1 directly into I-295, bypassing the stretch of I-95.
I hope you're not serious.
Drainage, wetlands, and whatever natural habitat is left just east of the mall? There would have to be some real fancy flyovers here. Almost Glen Canyon like.*shrug* wetlands disturbances can always be mitigated. I imagine the reason they're not doing anything in there is because there's not really that much demand for that land. If Wilmington was like, say, Charlotte NC, you'd see it get filled in and mitigated elsewhere.
Why not? An elevated freeway with minimal disturbance, a ton of unused land sitting there.Yeah I would leave things exactly the way they are (of course improving I-295 and I-95 even more in the area would certainly be welcomed). I use either the all freeway route or the US 13 route, depends on the time of day and/or wether or not I want to make a stop. It's actually pretty nice to have that option there.I would use all that swampland and build a freeway connecting DE 1 directly into I-295, bypassing the stretch of I-95.
I hope you're not serious.
I have always thought that a US 13 freeway from DE 1 to I-495 was the best option here.
In other news: TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Delaware Memorial Bridge UHPC Project Requires Continuous Lane Closures
(https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8793)
Why not? An elevated freeway with minimal disturbance, a ton of unused land sitting there.Yeah I would leave things exactly the way they are (of course improving I-295 and I-95 even more in the area would certainly be welcomed). I use either the all freeway route or the US 13 route, depends on the time of day and/or wether or not I want to make a stop. It's actually pretty nice to have that option there.I would use all that swampland and build a freeway connecting DE 1 directly into I-295, bypassing the stretch of I-95.
I hope you're not serious.
I have always thought that a US 13 freeway from DE 1 to I-495 was the best option here.
In other news: TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Delaware Memorial Bridge UHPC Project Requires Continuous Lane Closures
(https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8793)
Wednesday
October 27, 2021
5:00 PM to 6:00 PM
Virtual Public Workshop: Live Q&A with the Project Team
Presentation to begin at 5:00 PM. There will be a Q&A with the project team after the presentation ends. The workshop will end when there are no further questions.
Register to participate in the virtual public workshop.
(For I-95) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Temporary Closure of Newark Toll Plaza EZ Pass Lanes for Patching and Striping (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8828)
(For I-95) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Temporary Closure of Newark Toll Plaza EZ Pass Lanes for Patching and Striping (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8828)
I wonder if they meant "overnight" lane closures.
Looking at the DelDOT webcams at https://deldot.gov/map/index.shtml , I see activity/equipment/coils of what looks like black electrical cables ready to be buried. This is in the NW corner of the SR 1 & 16 intersection. Is this an indicator of the start of prelim work re building the interchange at that junction?
(For I-95) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Temporary Closure of Newark Toll Plaza EZ Pass Lanes for Patching and Striping (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8828)
I wonder if they meant "overnight" lane closures.
(For I-95) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - UPDATED: Temporary Closure of Newark Toll Plaza EZ Pass Lanes for Patching and Striping (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8828)
It seems to be a continuous closure.
I see when they redid Delaware House they replaced the guides that were Denny” s restaurant shaped signs.There seems to be a lot of unique signage in the Wilmington area that's getting replaced. I wasn't around to see the Denny's shaped signs though since I only moved here in 2017.
Haven’t been that way in over twelve years, but I always thought they were cool. You have to go back to 2008 on GSV to find crappy photos of those neat guides. Also the ball park parking lot mast lighting poles were neat too. Now typical lighting as the LEDs provide same electrics usage as the fewer old ones that were there.
I see when they redid Delaware House they replaced the guides that were Denny” s restaurant shaped signs.
I see when they redid Delaware House they replaced the guides that were Denny” s restaurant shaped signs.
Not sure what they were originally, but the shape reminded me of Sinclair Oil
signs from the 1960's (Sinclair was once quite common in the East before
selling their assets to BP).
DelDOT is suggesting replacing the DE 1 / DE 273 interchange with a SPUI. They've also included an extra signalized right turn lane coming off the DE 1 SB ramp to provide access to DE 7 SB, a feature deliberately left out in previous concepts. If built, the SPUI would be the state's first.
Workshop Presentation (https://deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=8768501&iProjectObjectID=2579)
I noticed that they claim this design allows the Park and Ride to remain. Alternatives 1, 2 & 3 all have similar conditions at the 273 & 1 light, but they said the P&R couldn't remain. Modified Alternatives 1, 2 & 3 don't really change the proposed redesign of DE 7 North approaching and north of DE 273, yet allow the P&R to remain.
I don't have a problem with the SPUI itself, but it doesn't really appear to resolve some of the objectives of the project; namely the issues of traffic between 1 & 7. Alternative 4 actually does a decent job with that aspect, albeit at the expense of an extra intersection to access DE 273 East.
Speaking of which, what is the construction going on just north of the rest stop?
The DE 16 bridge over the Nanticoke River between US 13 and DE 36 is closed for deck repair.
https://www.wrde.com/story/45112356/construction-repairs-for-a-bridge-on-route-16-causes-detours-in-greenwood
Times and Dates: 7 AM on Tuesday, November 2 until 11 PM on Wednesday, November 24, pending weather. (The work has been extended to Wednesday, November 24)
(For I-95 SB) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Temporary Closure of Newark Toll Plaza EZ Pass Lanes for Patching and Striping (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8828)
But we have to be careful not to let Maryland know about this possibility, or else they'll back out for fear of losing toll revenue from 95.
^ He may be referring to "through traffic", conveniently forgetting that any such traffic using the Delmarva will still have to contend with the CBBT toll and about 2-dozen signals on the Virginia Eastern Shore.
So no, it won't have a big impact on I-95 MD...
Something else he's conveniently forgetting: a Milford bypass is dead.
^ He may be referring to "through traffic", conveniently forgetting that any such traffic using the Delmarva will still have to contend with the CBBT toll and about 2-dozen signals on the Virginia Eastern Shore.
So no, it won't have a big impact on I-95 MD...
Something else he's conveniently forgetting: a Milford bypass is dead.
I played with the options for a bit. If one is already in Delmarva, it'll add well over 1 hour just to get back to 95 in regular traffic. There's no reason to avoid lower Delaware now.
If one is below the CBBT, depending on their starting/ending point, times are relatively equal if one takes 95 or drives thru Delmarva into Delaware. But the CBBT toll, along with the DE 1 toll, would be equal or greater than the 95 tolls. A limited access 113 would speed things up a little bit, but over 6+ hours and hundreds of miles, too many variables to deal with.
Agreed… but there would be no viable competition with I-95 unless the entirety of US-13 / US-113 was upgraded through Delaware, Maryland, and Virginia.^ He may be referring to "through traffic", conveniently forgetting that any such traffic using the Delmarva will still have to contend with the CBBT toll and about 2-dozen signals on the Virginia Eastern Shore.
So no, it won't have a big impact on I-95 MD...
Something else he's conveniently forgetting: a Milford bypass is dead.
I played with the options for a bit. If one is already in Delmarva, it'll add well over 1 hour just to get back to 95 in regular traffic. There's no reason to avoid lower Delaware now.
If one is below the CBBT, depending on their starting/ending point, times are relatively equal if one takes 95 or drives thru Delmarva into Delaware. But the CBBT toll, along with the DE 1 toll, would be equal or greater than the 95 tolls. A limited access 113 would speed things up a little bit, but over 6+ hours and hundreds of miles, too many variables to deal with.
I-95 between Richmond and Baltimore, particularly between Fredericksburg and the Beltway, is one of the worst traffic bottlenecks in the country.
A Delmarva Freeway, combined with the planned I-87, would offer an alternative to that mess. Not only would it be faster, but the travel times would be more consistent, which is crucial for modern just-in-time supply chains.
A Delmarva Freeway, combined with the planned I-87, would offer an alternative to that mess. Not only would it be faster, but the travel times would be more consistent, which is crucial for modern just-in-time supply chains.After what happened in March 2020, I'm of the opinion that just-in-time supply chains should be outlawed.
US-13 in Maryland (between Salisbury and Pocomoke) is higher quality than US-113, IMO, given it has limited access throughout without private driveway connections, then of course the full freeway bypass around Salisbury.13 in VA on the north side of the CBBT is absolutely miserable. One local yokel triggers the light to turn red at various signals through there. It's absurd and infuriating.
The only problem that makes US-13 less viable, however, is Delaware.
US-113 in Maryland is still a high quality roadway though.
If a true freeway was ever sought after on the Eastern Shore, I’d say use a majority of Delaware’s US-113, a majority of Maryland’s US-13, then build a connector between the two north of Salisbury.
US-13 in Virginia is a joke - and they have still continued to add new signals.
Pretty much. After slogging through 2-4 signals in a town that are definitely not timed together, the speed limit bumps up to 55 mph, you might get to cruise for a few minutes at 65-70 mph, then you hit the next town, and repeat. 60-ish miles later, you enter Maryland, get to US-113, and finally where you can set the cruise at 70 mph and go on about your day without any more interruptions, at least not nearly as frequently.US-13 in Maryland (between Salisbury and Pocomoke) is higher quality than US-113, IMO, given it has limited access throughout without private driveway connections, then of course the full freeway bypass around Salisbury.13 in VA on the north side of the CBBT is absolutely miserable. One local yokel triggers the light to turn red at various signals through there. It's absurd and infuriating.
The only problem that makes US-13 less viable, however, is Delaware.
US-113 in Maryland is still a high quality roadway though.
If a true freeway was ever sought after on the Eastern Shore, I’d say use a majority of Delaware’s US-113, a majority of Maryland’s US-13, then build a connector between the two north of Salisbury.
US-13 in Virginia is a joke - and they have still continued to add new signals.
VDOT seemingly treats US-13 as a local roadway, and not as a high quality arterial highway with a goal of limiting signals through RIRO, J-Cuts, and even strategically placed interchanges at high volume intersections. A few town bypasses as well. Even without a full freeway treatment, US-13 needs some sort of upgrading in Virginia.
^ The problem with that, is from the Hampton Roads area itself, US-13 functions as the main north-south highway to the Northeast. It may a “shortcut” or “alternative” for I-95 traffic, but it is the main highway for a metropolitan area of nearly 2 million to Philadelphia, New York City, and all of the Northeast. Sure, you can head inland on I-64 to I-95, but you’re easily adding over an hour, especially if you factor in Northern Virginia and I-95 traffic in general.
I don’t think the issue of suburbanization is one, especially with the bridge-tunnel’s high toll acting as an artificial barrier.
The southern few miles of US-13 on the Eastern Shore is already high quality, limited access design, and it hasn’t attracted development on that southern portion, the most likely starting point for sprawl from Hampton Roads to begin.
With the improvements being planned on US 113, my dream of a Delmarva North South Freeway is getting closer to reality
(https://i.imgur.com/spk8mPb.jpg)
But we have to be careful not to let Maryland know about this possibility, or else they'll back out for fear of losing toll revenue from 95.
DE 30 is looking at a pretty significant truncation within the next couple months, everything southwest of Millsboro is getting deleted. Most of the to-be-deleted portion of DE 30 consists of relatively untouched rural back roads, however the proposed changes do leave an awkward 0.9mi stretch of Millsboro Highway unsigned between DE 24 / 26.
DelDOT Truncation Study (https://deldot.gov/projects/Studies/proposed-SR30-declassification-west-of-Millsboro/)
In an effort to increase safety and enhance mobility along rural roadways in Delaware, DelDOT’s Traffic Engineering Section is proposing the partial removal of the SR 30 designation in south-central Sussex County due to the complex, tangled nature of its routing amongst SRs 24, 26, and 54.
The tangled concurrencies amongst SRs 24, 26, 30, and 54 in southern Sussex County are a source of motorist confusion and sign clutter, and the declassification of SR 30 in this area will eliminate many of these issues.
SR 30 has no shoulders between Bi-State Boulevard and Millsboro Highway, whereas SR 24, SR 26, and SR 54 have full-width shoulders.
DelDOT is proposing to declassify approximately 22 miles of SR 30 in south-central Sussex County, from Bi-State Boulevard (ALT US 13 between Laurel and Delmar)
SR 30’s new southern terminus would be at SR 24 (John J Williams Highway) in Millsboro, therefore the entirety of the route would connect the City of Milford and Town of Millsboro.
Declassifying SR 30 between Bi-State Boulevard and Gravel Hill Road may encourage long-distance travelers and trucks to use SRs 24, 26, and 54 instead, reducing volumes on SR 30.
With the improvements being planned on US 113, my dream of a Delmarva North South Freeway is getting closer to reality
But we have to be careful not to let Maryland know about this possibility, or else they'll back out for fear of losing toll revenue from 95.
Are all those dots on that map going to be interchanges? :confused:
Newark City Council voted unanimously to annex property at the corner of Elkton and Otts Chapel Road that could potentially lead to a second Wawa less than a mile from one in Maryland.
The 6.05-acre site is almost completely surrounded by the City of Newark, but engineers working on the annexation and potential redevelopment were questioned about a branch of the Persimmon Run Creek that makes up part of its boundary.
Engineers said DELDOT is on board with the potential Wawa construction, even permitting a direct left turn from northbound Otts Chapel Road, not very far from when it intersects Elkton Road.
If it does become a Wawa, it would become the second one in less than a half-mile. There is a location just off the southbound lanes of Elkton Road (Route 279) at Fletchwood Road (Route 277) situated over the line in Maryland. The Newark location would be on the northbound side of Elkton Road.
U.S. 13 ALT on Bi-State Boulevard? What data is DelDOT using?
The Delaware State Highway Department proposed designating Bi-State Boulevard as U.S. 13 ALT initially in 1952. AASHO deferred approving it pending action by the state of Maryland.
In 1955, AASHO disallowed the establishment of U.S. 13 ALT between the state line and a point north of Seaford, instead suggesting the use of a business route. With no further action by either state, a bannered route for U.S. 13 was never formally established along Bi-State Boulevard, and the 1957-58 Official Delaware Highway Map removed U.S. 13 ALT between Delmar and Laurel.
SR 82 has no shoulders (DelDOT unsuccessfully tried to decommission SR 82 in 2010).
Lastly, Bob mentioned some discussion to me that in Milford SR 30 might get extended north over SR 1 Business, with SR 1 Business decommissioned. This would coincide with the removal of the wye interchange joining SR 1 with SR 1 Business on Rehoboth Boulevard. Has something to do with access to the Bayhealth Hospital built on SR 30 by the exchange with SR 1.
QuoteSR 82 has no shoulders (DelDOT unsuccessfully tried to decommission SR 82 in 2010).
Do you know if PennDOT was related to that unsuccessful decommission?
From the workshop website transcript:Quote14.Corridor Management Plan
ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF A SCENIC BYWAY DESIGNATION IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF A CORRIDOR MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT IDENTIFIES STRATEGIES DESIGNED TO PRESERVE THE UNIQUE AND IRREPLACEABLE ATTRIBUTES OF THE BYWAY.
THE RED CLAY VALLEY SCENIC BYWAY ALLIANCE, COMPRISED OF REPRESENTATIVES FROM NON-PROFIT AGENCIES, PRESERVATION GROUPS, GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, STAKEHOLDERS, RESIDENTS OF THE AREA AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC, COMPLETED SUCH A CORRIDOR MANAGEMENT PLAN IN 2008.
ONE OF THE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS OF THAT PLAN WAS TO EXPLORE THE DELISTING OF STATE ROUTE 82 AS A STATE ROUTE, IN ORDER TO HELP PROTECT ITS INTRINSIC QUALITIES.
REMOVING THE STATE ROUTE DESIGNATION IS A STRATEGY THAT HAS BEEN USED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES IN AN EFFORT TO PRESERVE RESOURCES FOUND ALONG THEIR ROADWAY.
FOR EXAMPLE, IN 1998, APPROXIMATELY FIVE-AND-A-HALF MILES OF STATE ROUTE 82 LOCATED IN UNIONVILLE, PENNSYLVANIA WAS DELISTED BY THAT STATE IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE HISTORIC, VILLAGE CHARACTER OF THAT COMMUNITY.
QuoteLastly, Bob mentioned some discussion to me that in Milford SR 30 might get extended north over SR 1 Business, with SR 1 Business decommissioned. This would coincide with the removal of the wye interchange joining SR 1 with SR 1 Business on Rehoboth Boulevard. Has something to do with access to the Bayhealth Hospital built on SR 30 by the exchange with SR 1.
At the end of the day, I guess I was right to extend DE 30 to DE 1 Business in Travel Mapping a couple years ago.
SR 896 south from Glasgow alongside SR 71 to Mt. Pleasant. The turn of SR 896 south at Hillside Road has not been marked since 2012. Truncate SR 896 at SR 71 and renumber the east-west leg from Mt. Pleasant to Boyds Corner or decertify it. Or realign SR 71 northeast from Lums Pond over SR 896 to SR 4 in Newark. The north end of SR 71 may be realigned or truncated due to planned improvements at the exchange joining U.S. 13 and SR 1 at Tybouts Corner.
Alex, on those maps, the second map shows a relocated Speedway Road - right through one end of Georgetown Speedway. Guess this means that old racetrack's days may be numbered, right?
Speedway Road: Mr. Hite related that this area is of concern due to impacts to the Seacoast Speedway. Mr. Hall cited a group of citizens that have expressed concern about impacts to the speedway and asked why the property was not determined eligible for the National Register. Ms. Davis said that for a property to be recommended eligible, both significance and integrity are needed. Although the speedway may be considered to be significant from a historic point of view, it is the opinion of SHPO and DelDOT that the site lacks integrity because many later-period additions exist. Mr. Oliver added that impacts to the speedway are only being considered to avoid impacting several homes on the opposite side of Speedway Road. Mr. Hite added that the property has been proposed for development for some time; Mr. Hall confirmed that there is an active PLUS application for the site.
So is the SB 295/SB 95 junction complete?
If so, nice, but IMO I-95 in DE needs to be 6 lanes from 295 to DE-1, then 5 lanes to the Service Station.
Any plans or possibility this happens?
So is the SB 295/SB 95 junction complete?It needs 2 lanes from 495 and 3 lanes from 295, for starters.
If so, nice, but IMO I-95 in DE needs to be 6 lanes from 295 to DE-1, then 5 lanes to the Service Station.
Any plans or possibility this happens?
So is the SB 295/SB 95 junction complete?It needs 2 lanes from 495 and 3 lanes from 295, for starters.
If so, nice, but IMO I-95 in DE needs to be 6 lanes from 295 to DE-1, then 5 lanes to the Service Station.
Any plans or possibility this happens?
I-495 is not 3 lanes of traffic. It's 2 lanes of traffic built with 3. I-95 also is relatively light outside commuting hours. I-295 is the chokepoint and there's a balance between I-95 and US 13/40 corridors that is broken right now.So is the SB 295/SB 95 junction complete?It needs 2 lanes from 495 and 3 lanes from 295, for starters.
If so, nice, but IMO I-95 in DE needs to be 6 lanes from 295 to DE-1, then 5 lanes to the Service Station.
Any plans or possibility this happens?
When it comes down to it, it's just a bad pinchpoint. 4 lanes crossing the Bridge, 3 lanes from 495, 3 lanes from 95. There's some variables with traffic jumping onto 13, 40 & 141, but it's never really going to have the right number of lanes, or the proper lane allocation at all times, between 295 and DE 1.
The Phase 2 of the I-95 Restore the Corridor Public Meeting will be on December 2, 2021, at 6 PM. (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15436)
Found this circulating online:
(https://i.imgur.com/sEq7J5K.jpg)
DELWARE
Found this circulating online:
(https://i.imgur.com/sEq7J5K.jpg)
DELWARE
Isn't that the state next to Marland?
That sign would've been a candidate for the News Journal's weekly (I want to day Mondays in section B) "Fix It" feature highlighting defective signs, traffic control devices, curbs, etc., back in the day. I don't know if TNJ's site (delawareonline.com) has that feature. Being adverse to dealing with paywalls, I choose not to go to that site.
That sign would've been a candidate for the News Journal's weekly (I want to day Mondays in section B) "Fix It" feature highlighting defective signs, traffic control devices, curbs, etc., back in the day. I don't know if TNJ's site (delawareonline.com) has that feature. Being adverse to dealing with paywalls, I choose not to go to that site.
DelDOT beat the News Journal to it, posting about the Delware sign on their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/100064534726421/posts/278381937656295/
If the state had the plans correct and didn't yet sign off on inspection, the contractor would be at fault, so the state wouldn't be paying for it.That sign would've been a candidate for the News Journal's weekly (I want to day Mondays in section B) "Fix It" feature highlighting defective signs, traffic control devices, curbs, etc., back in the day. I don't know if TNJ's site (delawareonline.com) has that feature. Being adverse to dealing with paywalls, I choose not to go to that site.
DelDOT beat the News Journal to it, posting about the Delware sign on their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/100064534726421/posts/278381937656295/
They say the sign is getting replaced... really? It couldn't be patched? What a waste of money if that's true.
New Castle County - I-95 Rehabilitation Project Virtual Public Meeting on Tuesday, December 14, 2021 (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8900)
So what would be the ideal setup for the junction?So is the SB 295/SB 95 junction complete?It needs 2 lanes from 495 and 3 lanes from 295, for starters.
If so, nice, but IMO I-95 in DE needs to be 6 lanes from 295 to DE-1, then 5 lanes to the Service Station.
Any plans or possibility this happens?
When it comes down to it, it's just a bad pinchpoint. 4 lanes crossing the Bridge, 3 lanes from 495, 3 lanes from 95. There's some variables with traffic jumping onto 13, 40 & 141, but it's never really going to have the right number of lanes, or the proper lane allocation at all times, between 295 and DE 1.
So what would be the ideal setup for the junction?So is the SB 295/SB 95 junction complete?It needs 2 lanes from 495 and 3 lanes from 295, for starters.
If so, nice, but IMO I-95 in DE needs to be 6 lanes from 295 to DE-1, then 5 lanes to the Service Station.
Any plans or possibility this happens?
When it comes down to it, it's just a bad pinchpoint. 4 lanes crossing the Bridge, 3 lanes from 495, 3 lanes from 95. There's some variables with traffic jumping onto 13, 40 & 141, but it's never really going to have the right number of lanes, or the proper lane allocation at all times, between 295 and DE 1.
Got a visual?So what would be the ideal setup for the junction?So is the SB 295/SB 95 junction complete?It needs 2 lanes from 495 and 3 lanes from 295, for starters.
If so, nice, but IMO I-95 in DE needs to be 6 lanes from 295 to DE-1, then 5 lanes to the Service Station.
Any plans or possibility this happens?
When it comes down to it, it's just a bad pinchpoint. 4 lanes crossing the Bridge, 3 lanes from 495, 3 lanes from 95. There's some variables with traffic jumping onto 13, 40 & 141, but it's never really going to have the right number of lanes, or the proper lane allocation at all times, between 295 and DE 1.
the ideal, pie-in-the-sky, no-worries-about-budget-let-alone-property-acquisition setup would likely include flyovers from I-495 and I-295 to a braided approach to the DE 1 interchange, which would carry all of the traffic headed in that direction and reduce the pressure on the through lanes.
Got a visual?So what would be the ideal setup for the junction?So is the SB 295/SB 95 junction complete?It needs 2 lanes from 495 and 3 lanes from 295, for starters.
If so, nice, but IMO I-95 in DE needs to be 6 lanes from 295 to DE-1, then 5 lanes to the Service Station.
Any plans or possibility this happens?
When it comes down to it, it's just a bad pinchpoint. 4 lanes crossing the Bridge, 3 lanes from 495, 3 lanes from 95. There's some variables with traffic jumping onto 13, 40 & 141, but it's never really going to have the right number of lanes, or the proper lane allocation at all times, between 295 and DE 1.
the ideal, pie-in-the-sky, no-worries-about-budget-let-alone-property-acquisition setup would likely include flyovers from I-495 and I-295 to a braided approach to the DE 1 interchange, which would carry all of the traffic headed in that direction and reduce the pressure on the through lanes.
the ideal, pie-in-the-sky, no-worries-about-budget-let-alone-property-acquisition setup would likely include flyovers from I-495 and I-295 to a braided approach to the DE 1 interchange, which would carry all of the traffic headed in that direction and reduce the pressure on the through lanes.
TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Nighttime Closure of Northbound I-95 at Chapman Road Overpass (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8925)
TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Nighttime Closure of Northbound I-95 at Chapman Road Overpass (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8925)
I imagine most will take Old Baltimore Pike rather than go all the way to US 40.
TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Nighttime Closure of Northbound I-95 at Chapman Road Overpass (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8925)
Statewide - Electronic Speed Safety Program to Begin in I-95 Restore the Corridor Construction Zone (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8937)
Statewide - Electronic Speed Safety Program to Begin in I-95 Restore the Corridor Construction Zone (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8937)
Notable within the links provided, there is no leeway written into the law. So if they want to send you a ticket for 46 in a 45, it'll be completely within their right to do so.
Statewide - Electronic Speed Safety Program to Begin in I-95 Restore the Corridor Construction Zone (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8937)
Notable within the links provided, there is no leeway written into the law. So if they want to send you a ticket for 46 in a 45, it'll be completely within their right to do so.
The more I think of it the more I realize DelDOT is borrowing Maryland’s sign design in multiple cases. Between using the same work zone speed camera signs, the “Lane Ends” with arrow signs, and some of the same BGS designs on I-95 with the square corners and exit tabs (all unique), it’s too hard to ignore. There’s probably no copyright on the designs but you have to wonder if Maryland knows.
The more I think of it the more I realize DelDOT is borrowing Maryland’s sign design in multiple cases. Between using the same work zone speed camera signs, the “Lane Ends” with arrow signs, and some of the same BGS designs on I-95 with the square corners and exit tabs (all unique), it’s too hard to ignore. There’s probably no copyright on the designs but you have to wonder if Maryland knows.
Where else are they going to get the sign specs from?
(For DE 273) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - New Ramp Configuration on Route 273 at I-95 (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8948)
(For DE 141) New Castle County - DelDOT Announces Completion of Route 141 Projects (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8920)
(For DE 141) New Castle County - DelDOT Announces Completion of Route 141 Projects (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8920)
But they didn't build the ramp from DE 141 NB to I-295 NB that was part of the original plan.
Sussex County - Work to Move the Lewes Swing Bridge Commences Tomorrow Morning (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=8969)
Got a visual?So what would be the ideal setup for the junction?So is the SB 295/SB 95 junction complete?It needs 2 lanes from 495 and 3 lanes from 295, for starters.
If so, nice, but IMO I-95 in DE needs to be 6 lanes from 295 to DE-1, then 5 lanes to the Service Station.
Any plans or possibility this happens?
When it comes down to it, it's just a bad pinchpoint. 4 lanes crossing the Bridge, 3 lanes from 495, 3 lanes from 95. There's some variables with traffic jumping onto 13, 40 & 141, but it's never really going to have the right number of lanes, or the proper lane allocation at all times, between 295 and DE 1.
the ideal, pie-in-the-sky, no-worries-about-budget-let-alone-property-acquisition setup would likely include flyovers from I-495 and I-295 to a braided approach to the DE 1 interchange, which would carry all of the traffic headed in that direction and reduce the pressure on the through lanes.
nope.
I'm sure if one of the design-engineering-oriented folks were interested, they could draw up the concept and polish any gaps i overlooked. however, given how utterly impractical it would be from a budgetary perspective, i doubt it's worth the effort.
US 9 (Kings Highway) from SR 1 to Freeman Highway Online Virtual Public Workshop: February 23rd, 2022 (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15596)
US 9 (Kings Highway) from SR 1 to Freeman Highway Online Virtual Public Workshop: February 23rd, 2022 (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15596)
The documents for the US 9 Widening are up on the project website. (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T202212901)
US 9 (Kings Highway) from SR 1 to Freeman Highway Online Virtual Public Workshop: February 23rd, 2022 (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15596)
The documents for the US 9 Widening are up on the project website. (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T202212901)
Looks like the engineers who love roundabouts had a hand in the design here.
US 9 (Kings Highway) from SR 1 to Freeman Highway Online Virtual Public Workshop: February 23rd, 2022 (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15596)
The documents for the US 9 Widening are up on the project website. (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T202212901)
Looks like the engineers who love roundabouts had a hand in the design here.
Got a visual?So what would be the ideal setup for the junction?So is the SB 295/SB 95 junction complete?It needs 2 lanes from 495 and 3 lanes from 295, for starters.
If so, nice, but IMO I-95 in DE needs to be 6 lanes from 295 to DE-1, then 5 lanes to the Service Station.
Any plans or possibility this happens?
When it comes down to it, it's just a bad pinchpoint. 4 lanes crossing the Bridge, 3 lanes from 495, 3 lanes from 95. There's some variables with traffic jumping onto 13, 40 & 141, but it's never really going to have the right number of lanes, or the proper lane allocation at all times, between 295 and DE 1.
the ideal, pie-in-the-sky, no-worries-about-budget-let-alone-property-acquisition setup would likely include flyovers from I-495 and I-295 to a braided approach to the DE 1 interchange, which would carry all of the traffic headed in that direction and reduce the pressure on the through lanes.
nope.
I'm sure if one of the design-engineering-oriented folks were interested, they could draw up the concept and polish any gaps i overlooked. however, given how utterly impractical it would be from a budgetary perspective, i doubt it's worth the effort.
I can’t seem to think how that would work, as I am not familiar with a braided approach.
So how would it work both NB and SB I-95 between 1/295?
let us leave this for Fictional plzGot a visual?So what would be the ideal setup for the junction?So is the SB 295/SB 95 junction complete?It needs 2 lanes from 495 and 3 lanes from 295, for starters.
If so, nice, but IMO I-95 in DE needs to be 6 lanes from 295 to DE-1, then 5 lanes to the Service Station.
Any plans or possibility this happens?
When it comes down to it, it's just a bad pinchpoint. 4 lanes crossing the Bridge, 3 lanes from 495, 3 lanes from 95. There's some variables with traffic jumping onto 13, 40 & 141, but it's never really going to have the right number of lanes, or the proper lane allocation at all times, between 295 and DE 1.
the ideal, pie-in-the-sky, no-worries-about-budget-let-alone-property-acquisition setup would likely include flyovers from I-495 and I-295 to a braided approach to the DE 1 interchange, which would carry all of the traffic headed in that direction and reduce the pressure on the through lanes.
nope.
I'm sure if one of the design-engineering-oriented folks were interested, they could draw up the concept and polish any gaps i overlooked. however, given how utterly impractical it would be from a budgetary perspective, i doubt it's worth the effort.
I can’t seem to think how that would work, as I am not familiar with a braided approach.
So how would it work both NB and SB I-95 between 1/295?
southbound: at a very high level, exits to DE 1 would depart I-95 and I-495 prior to their merge point and form a roadway running parallel to I-95. an exit to DE 1 from I-295 prior to its merge with 95 would join that roadway, which would pass over or under the other ramps between its origin and DE 1.
applying the concept northbound is left as an exercise for the reader.
note that a similar (but smaller-scale) approach is used on I-95 SB in MD approaching MD 200, getting WB MD 200 traffic off of the I-95 mainline well in advance of the actual interchange.
Improvements will include adding flashers, beacons, signage, and a CCTV for traffic monitoring. In addition, the project will involve the installation of "clankers", a crossbar with a series of chains attached to it, as an enhancement to other warning systems to prevent bridge strikes due to over height vehicles. The "clankers" are designed to make a lot of noise when a vehicle tries to enter the underpass alerting drivers of the low clearance without damaging the vehicle itself.
US 13, US 40 to Memorial Drive Pedestrian Improvements Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15656)
Pretty stupid, especially since the one northwest of US 13-40 could easily be changed to US 202. But what I really don't like is that they're still making it difficult for southbound US 13 drivers to head north on I-295.US 13, US 40 to Memorial Drive Pedestrian Improvements Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15656)
Note that this map (https://deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=9008514&iProjectObjectID=49425) on the project webpage (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201601102) has US 141 shields on it.
US 13, US 40 to Memorial Drive Pedestrian Improvements Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15656)
Note that this map (https://deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicProjectPortalDocument&iDID=9008514&iProjectObjectID=49425) on the project webpage (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201601102) has US 141 shields on it.
As of Saturday, DE 30 signage has not been removed (at least along the DE 24 concurrency, seeing it there made it clear to me not to bother on the rest that is planned to be removed).
Delaware has a history of missigning SR 141 as US 141:
(https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/de-141-archive-north/de-141_nb_exit_001_26.jpg)
US 13 between Wrangle Hill and Dover is not daunting - I used it to shunpike DE 1 yesterday.
(For DE 141) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - SB Rt 141 Ramp on to NB I-95 to Close for Contruction (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9079)
When will they break ground on the DE 1/DE 16 interchange? Isn't that supposed to begin this year?
Design and right-of-way acquisitions are complete. Utility relocations began in Fall 2021 and the road/bridge construction work is expected to begin in Spring 2022. The project was awarded to Adel Construction. Construction is expected to begin mid-June.
Five Points Transportation Study Public Meeting (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15875)
Public Hearing For The Abandonment & Vacation of a Portion of Millers Neck Road Frankford, Delaware (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15915)Five Points Transportation Study Public Meeting (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15875)
I received an email yesterday noting that this meeting has been postponed due to yesterday's severe weather.
Plans for the I-295 NB third lane project got an update recently as well, with a roundabout now planned at the end of the I-95 Airport Road ramp.
https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T202109101 (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T202109101)
Plans for the I-295 NB third lane project got an update recently as well, with a roundabout now planned at the end of the I-95 Airport Road ramp.
https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T202109101 (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T202109101)
After endless construction here, now they decide to add a lane?
Agreed.Plans for the I-295 NB third lane project got an update recently as well, with a roundabout now planned at the end of the I-95 Airport Road ramp.
https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T202109101 (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T202109101)
After endless construction here, now they decide to add a lane?
What they did before was all part of the process to add that 3rd lane. This should be pretty easy to put in a lane now.
The biggest project with the preferred alternative...even though it'll be 3 lanes for about 1/2 mile prior to the split, we'll still find a lot of crowding into the right 2 lanes from Rt. 1 to that point.
Still not happy with the way they took I-295 on the SB side and made them lose a lane just after the merge with 95. Seriously congests 295 now, especially during times when traffic was lighter and no congestion existed earlier.
This workshop will be available online until 06/22/2022. View the workshop at: https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T202007504
(For US 13 and DE 1) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - NB Rt 13 Free Ramp onto NB DE Rt 1 to Close for Construction (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9102&type=Traffic)
(For DE 72) Possum Park Road and Old Possum Park Road Intersection Improvements Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15917)
A relocation of the Old Possum Park Road/Possum Park Road intersection is needed because it is too close to the existing Possum Park intersection with St. Regis Drive.
(For DE 72) Possum Park Road and Old Possum Park Road Intersection Improvements Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15917)QuoteA relocation of the Old Possum Park Road/Possum Park Road intersection is needed because it is too close to the existing Possum Park intersection with St. Regis Drive.
And it's been that way for how long?
Wait they finally are going to add a third NB lane at the 95/295 split?Plans for the I-295 NB third lane project got an update recently as well, with a roundabout now planned at the end of the I-95 Airport Road ramp.
https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T202109101 (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T202109101)
After endless construction here, now they decide to add a lane?
???????Wait they finally are going to add a third NB lane at the 95/295 split?Plans for the I-295 NB third lane project got an update recently as well, with a roundabout now planned at the end of the I-95 Airport Road ramp.
https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T202109101 (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T202109101)
After endless construction here, now they decide to add a lane?
Really?
Because that is such an obvious need and what seems to be an easy fix, NB at least.
DelDOT announces intermittent lane closures at US 13 at Rifle Range Road on Tuesday, June 21st. Work will consist of installing signing, pavement markings and tubular markers to implement intersection safety improvements at the intersection of US 13 and Rifle Range Road in Bridgeville.
The improvements will modify the existing median crossover to prevent traffic on Rifle Range Road from crossing or making a left-turn onto US 13. Traffic from eastbound or westbound Rifle Range Road will only be permitted to make a right-turn onto US 13. Traffic from US 13 will still be able to turn left or right onto eastbound or westbound Rifle Range Road.
The improvements are recommendations from DelDOT's Hazard Elimination Program. This intersection has a history of angle crashes, and the improvements will reduce intersection conflict points and eliminate the majority of cross-traffic, resulting in reductions in crashes at the intersection.
During implementation of the improvements, motorists should expect lane closures and possible traffic delays. Motorists are urged to use caution traveling through the work zone. Once the improvements are complete, motorists coming from the west wanting to travel north on US 13 should utilize S. Main Street to the signalized intersection at US 13 and SR 404. Motorists from the east wanting to travel south on US 13 should utilize Tatman Farm Road to SR 404 west to US 13 north. Directional signs will be installed to guide motorists to alternate routes.
For more information, visit DelDOT's website at www.deldot.gov or tune to WTMC-AM 1380.
Forum to provide update on traffic study of West Fenwick area
https://www.coastalpoint.com/news/state/forum-to-provide-update-on-traffic-study-of-west-fenwick-area/article_17707526-e83d-11ec-b611-7bc4e9d2dfab.html
DE 54 (from Selbyville) and DE 20 (from Dagsboro, Millsboro, and Seaford) converge in West Fenwick. Backups on DE 20/54 between there and DE 1 in Fenwick Island are common.
Looking at the DelDOT cam at 1 and 16, it looks like they're getting ready to start on split-leveling that intersection. The equipment and portapotty are east of DE 1, especially on the golf course corner. Barrels are up on the edges of the median (not blocking any lanes [yet]).
https://deldot.gov/map/index.shtml
Official link: https://news.delaware.gov/2022/06/21/deldot-marks-start-of-route-1-and-16-project/Looking at the DelDOT cam at 1 and 16, it looks like they're getting ready to start on split-leveling that intersection. The equipment and portapotty are east of DE 1, especially on the golf course corner. Barrels are up on the edges of the median (not blocking any lanes [yet]).
https://deldot.gov/map/index.shtml
The groundbreaking was today.
https://www.wrde.com/news/construction-starts-on-overpass-at-route-1-and-route-16/article_0c0f10c6-f1a1-11ec-bbc8-7b26761bb119.html
https://www.capegazette.com/article/overpass-project-route-1-and-route-16-underway/241984
I'm proposing a 2024 roadmeet for this one. Never had a meet in Lower Slower Delaware.
I certainly wasn't at that one, but now I vaguely recall it being brought up.I'm proposing a 2024 roadmeet for this one. Never had a meet in Lower Slower Delaware.
Not counting the Indian River meet?
Isn't it Slower Lower? :DYou are correct upon a search, but there are plenty the way I had it, including one abbreviation: LSD > SLD
LSD stickers are on many cars. Never seen an SLD one.Isn't it Slower Lower? :DYou are correct upon a search, but there are plenty the way I had it, including one abbreviation: LSD > SLD
(For DE 1) SR 1 at Tybouts Corner Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15996)
(For DE 1) SR 1 at Tybouts Corner Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15996)
I'm looking forward to seeing what ideas they have for this project, hopefully SR 1 will be prioritized as the more important thru route going forward.
Still present as of Sun 7/3, both west of US 113 AND US 13. Was on North 13 and saw a “West 30” sign for a left turn.As of Saturday, DE 30 signage has not been removed (at least along the DE 24 concurrency, seeing it there made it clear to me not to bother on the rest that is planned to be removed).
As of this past Sat 4/23, DE 30 signage still exists west of US 113.
(For DE 1) SR 1 at Tybouts Corner Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15996)
I'm looking forward to seeing what ideas they have for this project, hopefully SR 1 will be prioritized as the more important thru route going forward.
It 100% is now.
As it has been before but the completion of 301 and a Freeway to Middletown/Maryland really signifies the growth of the area and need to beef up infrastructure.
Tybouts Corner clearly hasn't really been modified since it's birth and has handled the traffic the growth has emerged; but its time for an upgrade and they should really turn that interchange into a 95/1 interchange that can fully handle all traffic for now and the future.
(For US 13 and DE 12) TRAFFIC ALERT - Kent County - Road Closure of US 13 Northbound at SR12 between Killens Pond Road and Memorial Ave (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9132)
(For US 13 and DE 14) TRAFFIC ALERT - Kent County - US 13 Northbound at SR14 between Porter St. and Gordon St. (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9133)
https://www.drba.net/drba-schedules-bridge-deck-overlay-project-virtual-public-town-hallsIt's been used for crossovers at times one bridge needs to be closed.
Starting just after Labor Day, construction on the NJ-bound span will be taking place on the Delaware Memorial Bridge.
This includes what I believe is the first contra-flow lane into NJ via the Delaware-bound span since shortly after the bridge opened! It was used for 2 way travel just after its opening while the original span was rehabbed. While the crossovers and signage were placed in the medians for emergency crossovers, I don't believe it was ever used for such until barriers were put up to deter such a movement.
https://www.drba.net/drba-schedules-bridge-deck-overlay-project-virtual-public-town-hallsIt's been used for crossovers at times one bridge needs to be closed.
Starting just after Labor Day, construction on the NJ-bound span will be taking place on the Delaware Memorial Bridge.
This includes what I believe is the first contra-flow lane into NJ via the Delaware-bound span since shortly after the bridge opened! It was used for 2 way travel just after its opening while the original span was rehabbed. While the crossovers and signage were placed in the medians for emergency crossovers, I don't believe it was ever used for such until barriers were put up to deter such a movement.
They are going to use 2-way traffic on the WB span for an upcoming project. 2 lanes will remain open on the EB bridge but a "bypass lane" will be put on the other span specifically for vehicles heading for the NJ Turnpike.
https://www.drba.net/drba-schedules-bridge-deck-overlay-project-virtual-public-town-halls
They are going to use 2-way traffic on the WB span for an upcoming project. 2 lanes will remain open on the EB bridge but a "bypass lane" will be put on the other span specifically for vehicles heading for the NJ Turnpike.
https://www.drba.net/drba-schedules-bridge-deck-overlay-project-virtual-public-town-halls
I know - that's what I wrote along with the link in my post! :-D
https://www.drba.net/drba-schedules-bridge-deck-overlay-project-virtual-public-town-hallsSo this means 3 lanes of traffic each way across the bay. The contraflow lane will use the existing crossovers, but there's no way any of that traffic could safely exit onto either I-295 or US-130. The bridge gets redecked in 2 stages, and carries 2 lanes (most of the time) towards NJ.
Starting just after Labor Day, construction on the NJ-bound span will be taking place on the Delaware Memorial Bridge.
This includes what I believe is the first contra-flow lane into NJ via the Delaware-bound span since shortly after the bridge opened! It was used for 2 way travel just after its opening while the original span was rehabbed. While the crossovers and signage were placed in the medians for emergency crossovers, I don't believe it was ever used for such until barriers were put up to deter such a movement.
https://www.drba.net/drba-schedules-bridge-deck-overlay-project-virtual-public-town-hallsSo this means 3 lanes of traffic each way across the bay. The contraflow lane will use the existing crossovers, but there's no way any of that traffic could safely exit onto either I-295 or US-130. The bridge gets redecked in 2 stages, and carries 2 lanes (most of the time) towards NJ.
Starting just after Labor Day, construction on the NJ-bound span will be taking place on the Delaware Memorial Bridge.
This includes what I believe is the first contra-flow lane into NJ via the Delaware-bound span since shortly after the bridge opened! It was used for 2 way travel just after its opening while the original span was rehabbed. While the crossovers and signage were placed in the medians for emergency crossovers, I don't believe it was ever used for such until barriers were put up to deter such a movement.
To accommodate anticipated traffic volumes, a bypass lane will also be provided diverting traffic around the construction. This bypass lane will divert traffic to the exterior lane of the Delaware-bound structure and will accommodate traffic bound for the New Jersey Turnpike only.
As of Saturday, DE 30 signage has not been removed (at least along the DE 24 concurrency, seeing it there made it clear to me not to bother on the rest that is planned to be removed).
As of Saturday, DE 30 signage has not been removed (at least along the DE 24 concurrency, seeing it there made it clear to me not to bother on the rest that is planned to be removed).
I toured that route recently (along with every other route in Kent and Sussex, working my way north thru New Castle presently)… what is being removed exactly?
Also, having now driven all of DE 15… why does it exist? I get the section from 13 to 14, but north of there, I see little purpose for its existence.
As of Saturday, DE 30 signage has not been removed (at least along the DE 24 concurrency, seeing it there made it clear to me not to bother on the rest that is planned to be removed).
I toured that route recently (along with every other route in Kent and Sussex, working my way north thru New Castle presently)… what is being removed exactly?
Also, having now driven all of DE 15… why does it exist? I get the section from 13 to 14, but north of there, I see little purpose for its existence.
It was supposed to be the entire route south of the north end of the DE 24 concurrency just north of Millsboro. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2680762#msg2680762)
In regard to DE 15, I think you just manifested an appearance of Mr. Angery from the roadwaywiz webinars. :-D
However, I think there are plenty of PA routes that are just as crazy with turns as DE 15 is. A few that I can think of offhand that have sections that seem similar to DE 15 (though usually with less concurrencies) are PA 645, PA 125, PA 372, PA 235, PA 63, PA 32, PA 997, PA 441, etc.
(For DE 1) SR 1 at Tybouts Corner Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15996)
I'm looking forward to seeing what ideas they have for this project, hopefully SR 1 will be prioritized as the more important thru route going forward.
It 100% is now.
As it has been before but the completion of 301 and a Freeway to Middletown/Maryland really signifies the growth of the area and need to beef up infrastructure.
Tybouts Corner clearly hasn't really been modified since it's birth and has handled the traffic the growth has emerged; but its time for an upgrade and they should really turn that interchange into a 95/1 interchange that can fully handle all traffic for now and the future.
A (now-retired afaik) traffic reporter on WDEL radio always referred tothe flyover bringing nb 1 over 13interchange 156 as "the jughandle at Tybouts Corner", as if that spot on the map was in New Jersey.
Another question: DelDOT seems quite sure that US 202 ends at 95 north of Wilmington, but I see references to it continuing along 95 down to 141 on the internet. Was it truncated?
Another question: DelDOT seems quite sure that US 202 ends at 95 north of Wilmington, but I see references to it continuing along 95 down to 141 on the internet. Was it truncated?
It is still posted from US 13/US 40 in New Castle last I checked. (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6785414,-75.5918825,3a,75y,40.37h,80.33t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sa9hAc06sxj8omh5UWriLAQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Da9hAc06sxj8omh5UWriLAQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D245.53139%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
(For DE 1) SR 1 at Tybouts Corner Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15996)
I'm looking forward to seeing what ideas they have for this project, hopefully SR 1 will be prioritized as the more important thru route going forward.
It 100% is now.
As it has been before but the completion of 301 and a Freeway to Middletown/Maryland really signifies the growth of the area and need to beef up infrastructure.
Tybouts Corner clearly hasn't really been modified since it's birth and has handled the traffic the growth has emerged; but its time for an upgrade and they should really turn that interchange into a 95/1 interchange that can fully handle all traffic for now and the future.
A (now-retired afaik) traffic reporter on WDEL radio always referred tothe flyover bringing nb 1 over 13interchange 156 as "the jughandle at Tybouts Corner", as if that spot on the map was in New Jersey.
Here's a video on the preferred alternative for improving the SR 1 at the Tybouts Corner area.
(For DE 1) SR 1 at Tybouts Corner Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15996)
I'm looking forward to seeing what ideas they have for this project, hopefully SR 1 will be prioritized as the more important thru route going forward.
It 100% is now.
As it has been before but the completion of 301 and a Freeway to Middletown/Maryland really signifies the growth of the area and need to beef up infrastructure.
Tybouts Corner clearly hasn't really been modified since it's birth and has handled the traffic the growth has emerged; but its time for an upgrade and they should really turn that interchange into a 95/1 interchange that can fully handle all traffic for now and the future.
A (now-retired afaik) traffic reporter on WDEL radio always referred tothe flyover bringing nb 1 over 13interchange 156 as "the jughandle at Tybouts Corner", as if that spot on the map was in New Jersey.
Here's a video on the preferred alternative for improving the SR 1 at the Tybouts Corner area.
I agree with you 100%. It really seems like they are just putting a bandaid on the area with some upgrades that should have been done years ago. If they really wanted to improve this area they would redo the NB & SB 1 ramps to handle traffic & speed correctly, and also realign Hamburg Rd away from SB 1.(For DE 1) SR 1 at Tybouts Corner Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15996)
I'm looking forward to seeing what ideas they have for this project, hopefully SR 1 will be prioritized as the more important thru route going forward.
It 100% is now.
As it has been before but the completion of 301 and a Freeway to Middletown/Maryland really signifies the growth of the area and need to beef up infrastructure.
Tybouts Corner clearly hasn't really been modified since it's birth and has handled the traffic the growth has emerged; but its time for an upgrade and they should really turn that interchange into a 95/1 interchange that can fully handle all traffic for now and the future.
A (now-retired afaik) traffic reporter on WDEL radio always referred tothe flyover bringing nb 1 over 13interchange 156 as "the jughandle at Tybouts Corner", as if that spot on the map was in New Jersey.
Here's a video on the preferred alternative for improving the SR 1 at the Tybouts Corner area.
Other than the 2 continuous lanes for DE 1 SB, and merging US 13 SB down to 1 lane, the rest seems to be a bit of a waste. The traffic light they want to remove on US 13 isn't causing that much of an issue.
(For DE 1) SR 1 at Tybouts Corner Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=15996)
I'm looking forward to seeing what ideas they have for this project, hopefully SR 1 will be prioritized as the more important thru route going forward.
It 100% is now.
As it has been before but the completion of 301 and a Freeway to Middletown/Maryland really signifies the growth of the area and need to beef up infrastructure.
Tybouts Corner clearly hasn't really been modified since it's birth and has handled the traffic the growth has emerged; but its time for an upgrade and they should really turn that interchange into a 95/1 interchange that can fully handle all traffic for now and the future.
A (now-retired afaik) traffic reporter on WDEL radio always referred tothe flyover bringing nb 1 over 13interchange 156 as "the jughandle at Tybouts Corner", as if that spot on the map was in New Jersey.
Here's a video on the preferred alternative for improving the SR 1 at the Tybouts Corner area.
Other than the 2 continuous lanes for DE 1 SB, and merging US 13 SB down to 1 lane, the rest seems to be a bit of a waste. The traffic light they want to remove on US 13 isn't causing that much of an issue.
Another question: DelDOT seems quite sure that US 202 ends at 95 north of Wilmington, but I see references to it continuing along 95 down to 141 on the internet. Was it truncated?
Haven’t driven that way just yet but will before months end. Otherwise refs to 202 along 95 are absent from Wilmington proper south.
Extend U.S. 202 from existing U.S. 202 and I-95 along I-95 to Route 141 and along Route 141 to U.S. 13.
This is to provide a high capacity safe connection between U.S. 13, a major north-south route, and U.S. 202, a major route into Pennsylvania and the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Prior to I-95 opening, U.S. 202 connected to U.S. 13 across City of Wilmington Streets. The Department has received continuing requests for a re-establishment of a connection.
The rationale behind Delaware Department of Transportation's proposal to use Delaware Route 141 link with U.S. Route 13 over I-295 is as follows:
1) The section of I-295, just west of the Farnhurst Interchange is considered a high hazard location. A total of 34 accidents were reported in 1981-82-83.
2) The short weaving distance where I-495 merges with I-295 is undesirable for high traffic volume. Eastbound traffic from I-295 toward the U.S. Route 13 exit at the Farnhurst Interchange must weave to the right hand lane which conflicts with the thru traffic and is potentially hazardous.
3) Westbound traffic from U.S. Route 13 onto I-295 has to use a heavily impacted ramp that features a poor Level of Service. The average annual daily traffic (AADT) at this ramp in 1983 was 18,332–the highest in the State.
4) I-295 is used as a major truck corridor between New York City and those states south of Delaware.
Another question: DelDOT seems quite sure that US 202 ends at 95 north of Wilmington, but I see references to it continuing along 95 down to 141 on the internet. Was it truncated?
It is still posted from US 13/US 40 in New Castle last I checked. (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6785414,-75.5918825,3a,75y,40.37h,80.33t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sa9hAc06sxj8omh5UWriLAQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Da9hAc06sxj8omh5UWriLAQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D245.53139%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
Haven’t driven that way just yet but will before months end. Otherwise refs to 202 along 95 are absent from Wilmington proper south.
Another question: DelDOT seems quite sure that US 202 ends at 95 north of Wilmington, but I see references to it continuing along 95 down to 141 on the internet. Was it truncated?
It is still posted from US 13/US 40 in New Castle last I checked. (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6785414,-75.5918825,3a,75y,40.37h,80.33t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sa9hAc06sxj8omh5UWriLAQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Da9hAc06sxj8omh5UWriLAQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D245.53139%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
Haven’t driven that way just yet but will before months end. Otherwise refs to 202 along 95 are absent from Wilmington proper south.
while there's nothing along the majority of the concurrency, there is at its south end (1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7075678,-75.5977525,3a,75y,224.72h,89.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4NtlmnbWXjl0oStxXDMvSA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192), 2 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7070418,-75.5987227,3a,75y,216.95h,98.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shxFce7JE23W3ipS2MUOjow!2e0!7i16384!8i8192), 3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7053384,-75.601537,3a,75y,243.59h,101.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOfieSUA_ca1cZoshvgaEIw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)).
Another question: DelDOT seems quite sure that US 202 ends at 95 north of Wilmington, but I see references to it continuing along 95 down to 141 on the internet. Was it truncated?
It is still posted from US 13/US 40 in New Castle last I checked. (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6785414,-75.5918825,3a,75y,40.37h,80.33t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sa9hAc06sxj8omh5UWriLAQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Da9hAc06sxj8omh5UWriLAQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D245.53139%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
Haven’t driven that way just yet but will before months end. Otherwise refs to 202 along 95 are absent from Wilmington proper south.
while there's nothing along the majority of the concurrency, there is at its south end (1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7075678,-75.5977525,3a,75y,224.72h,89.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4NtlmnbWXjl0oStxXDMvSA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192), 2 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7070418,-75.5987227,3a,75y,216.95h,98.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shxFce7JE23W3ipS2MUOjow!2e0!7i16384!8i8192), 3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7053384,-75.601537,3a,75y,243.59h,101.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOfieSUA_ca1cZoshvgaEIw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)).
This signage is gone. It's been replaced by some awful looking APL signage (large if not large/thick arrows, then small shields and font using the 3/4 height error), then only references 141 North for Exit 5B, and South 141 To US 13 for Exit 5A.
(For DE 1) TRAFFIC ALERT - Kent County - Dover Toll Plaza Northbound EZ-Pass Highway Speed Lane Closure - 8/10/22 (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9166&type=Traffic)
(For DE 2) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Traffic Pattern Shift on Kirkwood Highway Bridge (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9165&type=Traffic)
Re the new 4-way stop at DE 14 and Killens Pond Rd./Deep Creek Lane: Was a stoplight ever considered at that accident prone intersection?
I am currently wondering if it has been proposed that DE 10 be aligned onto the Camden (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201709503) Bypass (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201709502) once it is complete.
(For DE 12?) Frederica Road Concept Plans Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=16198)
What are the long-term plans for improvements to DE 404 between the state line and the Bridgeville bypass?
The hope has always been if Maryland gets their portion of 404 widened, then hopefully Delaware will get really angry at the backups on their state line from 404 dropping from 4 to 2 lanes and actually do something about it.
If I were a betting man, I would say Delaware widens 404 from the coast to US 113 first because that is where more population growth is happening.
With Maryland, I just looked at the State Transportation Plan and the only thing on the plan related to 404 is a $450,000 study for the 404 corridor from Sennett Road (where road goes from 4 to 2 lanes currently) out to MD 16.
No actual construction will start until 2029 at the earliest and then it's a matter of having a Governor who is going to be friendly to the Eastern Shore when it comes to highway projects. Hogan was great, O'Malley was fair, but Glendening was horrible.
So let me ask, pre 2017, from 95/295 to the DEMB, what were the improvements that were made?
I recall 295 NB at the 95 junction was under construction.
DelDOT has a new arcgis page set up for archived projects here:
https://deldot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=2fb554d1888a4f9c8c4a3085852a9f55 (https://deldot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=2fb554d1888a4f9c8c4a3085852a9f55)
Notable things I've found include a set of plans for the "Bay Bridge Connector Highway", or what would have been US 301, between US 40 and I-95. There's also some linework for the unbuilt SR 72 connector between the north end of Paper Mill Road and Stoney Batter Road that I've never been able to find any history on.
DelDOT has a new arcgis page set up for archived projects here:
https://deldot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=2fb554d1888a4f9c8c4a3085852a9f55 (https://deldot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=2fb554d1888a4f9c8c4a3085852a9f55)
Notable things I've found include a set of plans for the "Bay Bridge Connector Highway", or what would have been US 301, between US 40 and I-95. There's also some linework for the unbuilt SR 72 connector between the north end of Paper Mill Road and Stoney Batter Road that I've never been able to find any history on.
I clicked the link. It brought up a blank map devoid of symbols and blurb.
Still present as of Sun 7/3, both west of US 113 AND US 13. Was on North 13 and saw a “West 30” sign for a left turn.As of Saturday, DE 30 signage has not been removed (at least along the DE 24 concurrency, seeing it there made it clear to me not to bother on the rest that is planned to be removed).
As of this past Sat 4/23, DE 30 signage still exists west of US 113.
Later I took DE 24 from Seaford over to pickup DE 26 to Dagsboro. On Sat 7/1 I took DE 26 down to MD. Can confirm still signed as 24/30.
Still present as of Sun 7/3, both west of US 113 AND US 13. Was on North 13 and saw a “West 30” sign for a left turn.As of Saturday, DE 30 signage has not been removed (at least along the DE 24 concurrency, seeing it there made it clear to me not to bother on the rest that is planned to be removed).
As of this past Sat 4/23, DE 30 signage still exists west of US 113.
Later I took DE 24 from Seaford over to pickup DE 26 to Dagsboro. On Sat 7/1 I took DE 26 down to MD. Can confirm still signed as 24/30.
The DE 30 truncation page on DelDOT's website shows sign removal as beginning in Summer 2022.... (https://deldot.gov/projects/archived/proposed-SR30-declassification-west-of-Millsboro/)
DelDOT has a new arcgis page set up for archived projects here:
https://deldot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=2fb554d1888a4f9c8c4a3085852a9f55 (https://deldot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=2fb554d1888a4f9c8c4a3085852a9f55)
Notable things I've found include a set of plans for the "Bay Bridge Connector Highway", or what would have been US 301, between US 40 and I-95. There's also some linework for the unbuilt SR 72 connector between the north end of Paper Mill Road and Stoney Batter Road that I've never been able to find any history on.
I clicked the link. It brought up a blank map devoid of symbols and blurb.
Need to zoom in at least 4 levels. Project show up zoomed in.
(For DE 72, I-95, and sort of for DE 896) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Utility Relocation on Rt 72 Under I-95 (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9228&type=Traffic) (update (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9229&type=Traffic))
(For DE 15) McKee/Saulsbury Road Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=16357) (I really wish there was more notice on this one.)
(For DE 15) McKee/Saulsbury Road Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=16357) (I really wish there was more notice on this one.)
Apparently so did DelDOT, the announcement got taken down. I don't even see a project on their Projects Portal for this yet.
(For DE 15) McKee/Saulsbury Road Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=16357) (I really wish there was more notice on this one.)
Apparently so did DelDOT, the announcement got taken down. I don't even see a project on their Projects Portal for this yet.
That is weird. I did attend this last night so it did happen.
(For DE 15) McKee/Saulsbury Road Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=16357) (I really wish there was more notice on this one.)
Apparently so did DelDOT, the announcement got taken down. I don't even see a project on their Projects Portal for this yet.
That is weird. I did attend this last night so it did happen.
Oh wow that WAS short notice. Was this for the whole of the corridor up to Scarborough Road? The only project in the area I see is slated for the intersection at SR 8, and that's so close to construction I'd think it'd be beyond the point of holding another workshop.
Specifically, what is proposed to be done with the 8 & 15 intersection? A mega enlargment?
(For DE 279) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - New Traffic Pattern on Elkton Road (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9234)
^This link works fine: https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201912701
Good lord the DEMB has a lot of construction, when will it ever end or is it like painting the Golden Gate Bridge(GGB); forever?
(For DE 72) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Utility Relocation on Rt 72 under I-95 (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9242)
TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - James Street Bridge to Close for a Day (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9262)
(For DE 896) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Paving I-95 at the Route 896 Interchange and Through the Toll Plaza at the State Line (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9280)
TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - James Street Bridge to Close for a Day (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9262)
TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - James Street Bridge to Close for a Day (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9262)
TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - James Street Bridge in Newport will be CLOSED this Saturday, November 19th (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9290)
I just opened the DE 30 Declassification site and the PDFs on the page are now 404s... (https://deldot.gov/projects/archived/proposed-SR30-declassification-west-of-Millsboro/)
QuoteTRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - James Street Bridge to Close for a Day (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9262)
TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - James Street Bridge in Newport will be CLOSED this Saturday, November 19th (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9290)
(For DE 24) TRAFFIC ALERT - Sussex County - Nighttime Road Closure of SR 24 between Robinsonville Road and Hollymount Road (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9317)
DelDOT finally posted the workshop materials (https://deldot.gov/projects/vw/corridor-capacity/) from the SR 1 - Corridor Capacity Preservation Program meetings from early this month, detailing plans to convert SR 1 between Dover and Five Points into an expressway (sort of... every link is broken except for the GIS page with the full plans (https://kleinfelder.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=25615b55fe1d4b6db101a4a348e137c4)).So looking at the plans... does this mean that the portion of DE-1 between Dover and Milford would become a fully controlled access six-lane freeway? It would be certainly nice to have six lanes and controlled access on that portion, along with possibly a 65 mph speed limit... I recall driving it a couple years ago during the summer and it was quite full and fast moving (70+ mph) for being non-limited-access design.
Highlights include preliminary plans for a number of new grade separations, new frontage roads, intersection and driveway removals, master plans for Little Heaven and Frederica, and the addition of a third lane between Dover and the US 113 split in Milford. Curiously the new third lane isn't depicted as extending through Dover using the existing roadbed that's striped as a wide left shoulder, though I imagine that's due to anything north of Dover being out of the project's scope.
I-95 is blocked near Newark due to a police-involved shooting. Looks like a nightmare to travel on any of the alternate routes.
https://www.wdel.com/news/shooting-closes-i-95/article_c295d8f0-724a-11ed-bfb5-9b118e7948f3.html
I-95 is blocked near Newark due to a police-involved shooting. Looks like a nightmare to travel on any of the alternate routes.
https://www.wdel.com/news/shooting-closes-i-95/article_c295d8f0-724a-11ed-bfb5-9b118e7948f3.html
The guy involved carjacked multiple people, including a friend of mine's mother, starting in Newport before working his way onto 95, reportedly going the wrong direction on the interstate at some point. Apparently the police had were firing on the suspect from a helicopter once they had him pinned down. Wild day, luckily it seems like no one else was seriously hurt.
Downtown Newark has been a nightmare all day with all the trucks from Maryland trying to squeeze down Delaware Avenue.
I-95 is blocked near Newark due to a police-involved shooting. Looks like a nightmare to travel on any of the alternate routes.
https://www.wdel.com/news/shooting-closes-i-95/article_c295d8f0-724a-11ed-bfb5-9b118e7948f3.html
The guy involved carjacked multiple people, including a friend of mine's mother, starting in Newport before working his way onto 95, reportedly going the wrong direction on the interstate at some point. Apparently the police had were firing on the suspect from a helicopter once they had him pinned down. Wild day, luckily it seems like no one else was seriously hurt.
Downtown Newark has been a nightmare all day with all the trucks from Maryland trying to squeeze down Delaware Avenue.
Knowing that the police have an investigation on their hands, it's amazing other troops or agencies aren't handling traffic. I witnessed traffic on cameras trying to make left turns around vehicles stopped in the intersection (and cross traffic trying to do the same at the same time). At least it appears the truck restriction on 4/896 is being waived.
^ Some of those look more like RIRO than actual interchange ramps. Or are ramps with VERY TIGHT turning radii. Wouldn't quite call that a freeway. Nor do I expect them to actually build 6 lanes.It’s still a freeway… no different than US-50 / US-301 in Maryland.
I-95 is blocked near Newark due to a police-involved shooting. Looks like a nightmare to travel on any of the alternate routes.
https://www.wdel.com/news/shooting-closes-i-95/article_c295d8f0-724a-11ed-bfb5-9b118e7948f3.html
The guy involved carjacked multiple people, including a friend of mine's mother, starting in Newport before working his way onto 95, reportedly going the wrong direction on the interstate at some point. Apparently the police had were firing on the suspect from a helicopter once they had him pinned down. Wild day, luckily it seems like no one else was seriously hurt.
Downtown Newark has been a nightmare all day with all the trucks from Maryland trying to squeeze down Delaware Avenue.
Knowing that the police have an investigation on their hands, it's amazing other troops or agencies aren't handling traffic. I witnessed traffic on cameras trying to make left turns around vehicles stopped in the intersection (and cross traffic trying to do the same at the same time). At least it appears the truck restriction on 4/896 is being waived.
Someone from DelDOT showed up to manually control the light at SR 896 / Amstel Avenue around 1pm, though that light wasn't nearly as much of a problem for traffic as all the lights on Delaware Avenue are. I didn't walk down Delaware Avenue though so I'm not sure if anyone's controlling the lights to free up the bottleneck through town there.
EDIT
As the afternoon / evening rush starts to pick up with the interstate still closed, it looks like most of the traffic is being shunted away from Newark and forced onto SR 4, which isn't making for a good time. Backups are approaching 50 minutes long from 273 to 896.
Don't forget, Delaware also road dieted Main St (which becomes Elkton Road and DE/MD 279) over the years. Great for pedestrian safety. Not great when you have to close a major interstate. Even if the intersections are controlled, traffic is still limited by the short distance of a single lane on this road.
Don't forget, Delaware also road dieted Main St (which becomes Elkton Road and DE/MD 279) over the years. Great for pedestrian safety. Not great when you have to close a major interstate. Even if the intersections are controlled, traffic is still limited by the short distance of a single lane on this road.
AFAIK, S Main St had one lane bottlenecks entering Delaware Ave and leaving Main St even before the road diet that saw the 4 lane section end between Apple and Beverly. Northbound the right lane threw you onto Amstel, and southbound you were still limited by that one lane left turn from Main Street onto South Main St. Even then, the traffic lights in downtown were backing traffic up so much yesterday that the lane drops didn't even matter.
(For DE 54) Bridge 3-437 on Lighthouse Rd over Assawoman Bay (https://www.deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=16660)
Why is State Street in Dover closed between Cecil Street (next to Wesley College/DSU) and Pennsylvania Avenue through Feb. 27? Is it a city street for maintenance purposes? (US 13 Alt. follows Governors Ave.)
Edit: I just went to the City of Dover question page and emailed inquiry about this closure.
Why is State Street in Dover closed between Cecil Street (next to Wesley College/DSU) and Pennsylvania Avenue through Feb. 27? Is it a city street for maintenance purposes? (US 13 Alt. follows Governors Ave.)
Edit: I just went to the City of Dover question page and emailed inquiry about this closure.
See here: https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9353&type=Traffic (and FTFY)
Why is State Street in Dover closed between Cecil Street (next to Wesley College/DSU) and Pennsylvania Avenue through Feb. 27? Is it a city street for maintenance purposes? (US 13 Alt. follows Governors Ave.)
Edit: I just went to the City of Dover question page and emailed inquiry about this closure.
See here: https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9353&type=Traffic (and FTFY)
Undertaking the project: A-Del Construction, according to the attachment to the response email I received from the city.
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Btw 74/141 how did you find DelDOT's announcement? Did you type state street dover water main in DelDOT's website's search engine
Why is State Street in Dover closed between Cecil Street (next to Wesley College/DSU) and Pennsylvania Avenue through Feb. 27? Is it a city street for maintenance purposes? (US 13 Alt. follows Governors Ave.)
Edit: I just went to the City of Dover question page and emailed inquiry about this closure.
See here: https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9353&type=Traffic (and FTFY)
Undertaking the project: A-Del Construction, according to the attachment to the response email I received from the city.
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Btw 74/141 how did you find DelDOT's announcement? Did you type state street dover water main in DelDOT's website's search engine
Just "State Street" I think. I remembered seeing the news release about it, but did not consider it important enough to link here at first.
(For DE 299) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Nighttime Delays on Route 299 in Middletown (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9398)
(For DE 299) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Nighttime Delays on Route 299 in Middletown (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9398)
Any target date for the completion of the DE 299 widening?
(For US 13) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - St. Georges Bridge to Close for 18 Months for Repairs (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9399&type=Traffic)
The history of the spanning of Indian River Inlet...
https://www.capegazette.com/article/inlet-bridge-history-dates-back-nearly-nine-decades/252471
The Delmarva Central Railroad Company, with support from DelDOT's Railroad Section, will perform railroad crossing safety improvements at DOT Crossing No. 516122H in Ellendale. The Delmarva Central Railroad Company, and their Subcontractors, will replace the existing railroad crossing surface, install new railroad warning signals, perform sidewalk modifications in the area of the crossing, make improvements to existing drainage, and pave the approaches to the crossing.
The work will require a full closure of SR 16 Main Street at the Delmarva Central Railroad crossing with detours posted in the area. The local eastbound detour will direct traffic on SR 16 Main Street onto Washington Avenue to Willow Street to Prettyman Avenue back to SR 16 Main Street. The local westbound detour will direct traffic on SR 16 Main Street onto Prettyman Avenue to Willow Street to Washington Avenue back to SR 16 Main Street. Additional signs will be posted for a truck detour outside Town limits. The current schedule (weather dependent) will close SR 16 Main Street beginning Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 5:00 am. The road will be open by Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 10:00 pm. Some intermittent lane closures may occur before March 9, 2023 to prepare for the work and after March 23, 2023 to perform the final work items.
A Public Information Session will be held on Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at the Ellendale Volunteer Fire Company. Project information and display boards will be set up from 5:00pm to 6:00pm, where questions will be answered in an open format. There will be no presentation.
On DE 54, apparently there won't be any detours during replacement of the Assawoman bridge...
https://www.coastalpoint.com/closures-won-t-come-with-bridge-replacement/article_117f7074-a352-11ed-a83e-cf12ef744d4f.html
(For DE 279) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - New Traffic Pattern on Elkton Road (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9274)
Yes they were very thorough. Though there is (or at least, was in July) an erroneous "Begin 896" sign at the end of 279.(For DE 279) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - New Traffic Pattern on Elkton Road (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9274)
I drove through the project yesterday and got to see the third lane NB. The most interesting thing with this project basically being done is that there is much more DE 279 signage than there had been previously.
Yes they were very thorough. Though there is (or at least, was in July) an erroneous "Begin 896" sign at the end of 279.(For DE 279) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - New Traffic Pattern on Elkton Road (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9274)
I drove through the project yesterday and got to see the third lane NB. The most interesting thing with this project basically being done is that there is much more DE 279 signage than there had been previously.
there's a few brand-new APLs on I-95 SB at DE 141 that suffer from both the 3/4 error and a wide-enough gap between the two component panels that it can be mistaken for a divider line if the sky is bright enough behind them.
glancing up while driving, it looked like all of the new signage just installed on DE 141 itself also suffers from the 3/4 error.
Yes they were very thorough. Though there is (or at least, was in July) an erroneous "Begin 896" sign at the end of 279.
Still there as of Christmas Eve:
(https://www.aaroads.com/de/896/de-896-n-at-de-004-3.jpg)
The begin shield assembly was part of the sign plans for the Elkton Road reconstruction, so it was legitimately installed unfortunately. I posted some of the plans in a previous post in this thread.
Prior to that work there was only one SR 279 shield remaining per direction. Nice improvement now.
https://delawarebusinessnow.com/2020/06/143-million-i-95-896-interchange-project-gets-57-million-fed-grant-that-moves-up-construction-date-to-fall-2022/Quote$143 million I-95-896 interchange project gets $57 million fed grant that moves up construction date to fall 2022
Delaware’s congressional delegation announced a nearly $57 million grant from the U.S. Department of Transportation to the Delaware Department of Transportation for the construction of a redesigned interchange at I-95 and State Route 896. The new interchange will improve safety and reduce congestion by adding two flyovers, realigning existing ramps, and addressing other deficiencies with the current roadway geometry.
At present, 60 percent of vehicles on I-95 traveling southbound exit at State Route 896, creating congestion and safety issues.
This project will create a dedicated exit ramp for southbound 896 for motorists off of I-95, as well as a dedicated on-ramp from 896 to northbound I-95. The total project cost is $143 million, and with this grant award, construction will now begin in the fall of 2022, two years earlier than expected.
The funding for this project comes from the U.S. DOT’s Nationally Significant Freight and Highway Projects Program, or INFRA Grants program.
“As the leading Democrat on the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, one of my top priorities is to improve our nation’s transportation systems so that our drivers, bicyclists and pedestrians do not put their lives at risk simply by using our roadways. This major grant of federal funding will go a long way to improve safety and, ultimately, save lives along the I-95 corridor in Delaware. By reducing traffic and easing congestion, this project will greatly reduce fatalities and serious injuries while better facilitating commerce in our state. These safety improvements will spur economic growth and less congestion will enable greater access to the City of Newark, the University of Delaware and its blossoming STAR Campus,” Senator Tom Carper said.
“This funding and this project are really about the safety of Delaware commuters, including students who use this interchange almost every day. Any parent who uses this intersection or has kids who frequently drive toandfrom GlasgowHigh School, NewarkHigh School, or other schools farther down 896,knows that improving the safety and capacity of this interchange is long overdue,” said Sen. Chris Coons.“As a member of the Appropriations Committee, I fought hard to secure this funding, and I’m excited that these long-awaitedimprovementswill soon be underway to help ourgrowing Newark and Middletown communitiesstay safe on the road.”
“Improving the safety of the I-95 and 896 interchange has been a priority for our state for a long time now. This INFRA Grant from the Department of Transportation means that we can finally address the safety and capacity issues on 896,” said Congresswoman Lisa Blunt Rochester. “I want to thank DelDOT for their work in securing the grant and spearheading the project, Senator Carper, who sits on the Environment and Public Works Committee, and Senator Coons, who sits on the Appropriations Committee, for their tireless efforts on behalf of all Delawareans, and the Federal Department of Transportation for recognizing the importance of this project for Delaware.”
Additional information can be found on the DelDOT project page (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T201609002).
TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Lane Restrictions and a Closure on I-95 (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9428&type=Traffic)
At present, 60 percent of vehicles on I-95 traveling southbound exit at State Route 896, creating congestion and safety issues.
QuoteAt present, 60 percent of vehicles on I-95 traveling southbound exit at State Route 896, creating congestion and safety issues.
That seems...high. Maybe during the weekday afternoon rush that is relatively close to being accurate, but certainly not all the time.
QuoteAt present, 60 percent of vehicles on I-95 traveling southbound exit at State Route 896, creating congestion and safety issues.
That seems...high. Maybe during the weekday afternoon rush that is relatively close to being accurate, but certainly not all the time.
QuoteAt present, 60 percent of vehicles on I-95 traveling southbound exit at State Route 896, creating congestion and safety issues.
That seems...high. Maybe during the weekday afternoon rush that is relatively close to being accurate, but certainly not all the time.
Something about a tollbooth . . .
(For US 9) TRAFFIC ALERT - Sussex County - Work begins at Freeman Highway Intersection with Monroe Avenue (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9434)
https://goo.gl/maps/UcEa4iRX2P47SHc17Re-decking project on the other span. Probably similar to how the Chesapeake Bay Bridge works in peak flow periods (except there, there's no barrier).
What’s up with this configuration along the Delaware Memorial Bridge?
Well it’s the first time in years that those crossovers are being used. It’s a shame the overhead at the NJ side crossover that once told I-295/ US 130 and Route 49 ( on two panels)to keep right is now gone as it would be of handy for that configuration.
Well it’s the first time in years that those crossovers are being used. It’s a shame the overhead at the NJ side crossover that once told I-295/ US 130 and Route 49 ( on two panels)to keep right is now gone as it would be of handy for that configuration.
Not in this case. That lane is signed on the Delaware side for the NJ Turnpike only. On the NJ side, pylons keep that lane on the left directing that traffic for the Turnpike.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/G2v78PLsPEtdzQGN6
TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - I-95 to Close for Several More Nights (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9437)
State officials are seeking to remove the traffic light at the intersection of West Park Place and Apple Road and convert the intersection to a four-way stop sign.
Peter Haag, chief of traffic engineering for the Delaware Department of Transportation, made the request to the Newark Traffic Committee last week.
DelDOT was doing inspections of traffic lights around the city and found structural issues with one of the poles at the intersection. The city's electric department made temporary repairs, but the incident sparked conversation over whether the light is needed.
Haag said that neither the traffic volume nor the number of crashes at the intersection justify having a traffic light there. In the last three years, there were four documented crashes at the intersection.
“We're not even near the threshold of justifying a traffic signal,” he said.
Modeling shows that converting the intersection to a four-way stop sign would improve traffic flow, Haag added.
...
Filasky said the city has looked at removing the traffic light at West Park Place and Orchard Road too, but the angle of the roads could make it a more challenging four-way stop.
“Obviously, we'd prefer not to have any lights on that stretch,” he said. “It's certainly something we're looking at. Let's see how successful this one is before we move down the road.”
DelDOT and Newark are looking at removing the signal at W Park Place and Apple Road, and possibly even the signal a couple blocks down at Orchard Road as well.
https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/deldot-proposes-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_9f06eee0-4e05-58f4-805c-e71e3da5f8f0.html (https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/deldot-proposes-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_9f06eee0-4e05-58f4-805c-e71e3da5f8f0.html)QuoteState officials are seeking to remove the traffic light at the intersection of West Park Place and Apple Road and convert the intersection to a four-way stop sign.
Peter Haag, chief of traffic engineering for the Delaware Department of Transportation, made the request to the Newark Traffic Committee last week.
DelDOT was doing inspections of traffic lights around the city and found structural issues with one of the poles at the intersection. The city's electric department made temporary repairs, but the incident sparked conversation over whether the light is needed.
Haag said that neither the traffic volume nor the number of crashes at the intersection justify having a traffic light there. In the last three years, there were four documented crashes at the intersection.
“We're not even near the threshold of justifying a traffic signal,” he said.
Modeling shows that converting the intersection to a four-way stop sign would improve traffic flow, Haag added.
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Filasky said the city has looked at removing the traffic light at West Park Place and Orchard Road too, but the angle of the roads could make it a more challenging four-way stop.
“Obviously, we'd prefer not to have any lights on that stretch,” he said. “It's certainly something we're looking at. Let's see how successful this one is before we move down the road.”
If they get to the Orchard Road intersection, I might have to ask around and try snagging one for my collection :biggrin:
(https://img001.prntscr.com/file/img001/B8OzCEOPSmualg4Amcirhw.png)
DelDOT and Newark are looking at removing the signal at W Park Place and Apple Road, and possibly even the signal a couple blocks down at Orchard Road as well.
https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/deldot-proposes-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_9f06eee0-4e05-58f4-805c-e71e3da5f8f0.html (https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/deldot-proposes-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_9f06eee0-4e05-58f4-805c-e71e3da5f8f0.html)QuoteState officials are seeking to remove the traffic light at the intersection of West Park Place and Apple Road and convert the intersection to a four-way stop sign.
Peter Haag, chief of traffic engineering for the Delaware Department of Transportation, made the request to the Newark Traffic Committee last week.
DelDOT was doing inspections of traffic lights around the city and found structural issues with one of the poles at the intersection. The city's electric department made temporary repairs, but the incident sparked conversation over whether the light is needed.
Haag said that neither the traffic volume nor the number of crashes at the intersection justify having a traffic light there. In the last three years, there were four documented crashes at the intersection.
“We're not even near the threshold of justifying a traffic signal,” he said.
Modeling shows that converting the intersection to a four-way stop sign would improve traffic flow, Haag added.
...
Filasky said the city has looked at removing the traffic light at West Park Place and Orchard Road too, but the angle of the roads could make it a more challenging four-way stop.
“Obviously, we'd prefer not to have any lights on that stretch,” he said. “It's certainly something we're looking at. Let's see how successful this one is before we move down the road.”
If they get to the Orchard Road intersection, I might have to ask around and try snagging one for my collection :biggrin:
(https://img001.prntscr.com/file/img001/B8OzCEOPSmualg4Amcirhw.png)
It's two roads that don't even have a center line. Kinda wonder what the justification was to put the light up in the first place.
But I'm also intrigued at what the 'structural issue' of the pole is. They're just standard utility poles. Put one in right next to the other. Occurs all the time when there's a crash where a car hit a pole. Why does DelDOT need multiple months to deal with something that Delmarva Power can do on an emergency call basis in a few hours?
DelDOT and Newark are looking at removing the signal at W Park Place and Apple Road, and possibly even the signal a couple blocks down at Orchard Road as well.
https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/deldot-proposes-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_9f06eee0-4e05-58f4-805c-e71e3da5f8f0.html (https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/deldot-proposes-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_9f06eee0-4e05-58f4-805c-e71e3da5f8f0.html)
(For DE 7) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Southbound Route 7 to Close Under I-95 (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9443)
(For DE 273) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - I-95 Northbound Onramp to Close This Weekend (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9457)
(For US 13/DE 9) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Winchester Bridge on 4th Street to Close for Two Weeks (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9427&type=Traffic)
(For DE 273) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - I-95 Northbound Onramp to Close This Weekend (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9457)
TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - POSTPONED--I-95 Northbound Onramp to Close This Weekend (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9460)
(For US 13) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - St. Georges Bridge to Close for 18 Months for Repairs (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9399&type=Traffic)
Just in time for the Reedy Point Bridge reopening in March. The bridge deck is in horrendous shape so this'll be a welcome improvement.
(For US 13) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - St. Georges Bridge to Close for 18 Months for Repairs (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9399&type=Traffic)
Just in time for the Reedy Point Bridge reopening in March. The bridge deck is in horrendous shape so this'll be a welcome improvement.
TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - St. Georges Bridge to Close for 18 Months for Repairs (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9468)
I wonder how likely it may be that DE 30 gets put on it now that it is truncated to DE 24.
I wonder how likely it may be that DE 30 gets put on it now that it is truncated to DE 24.
Did they actually follow through with this in the field? When I passed through the area last fall it still looked to be signed.
Based on construction plans and DelDOT's previous willingness to let bits and pieces of longer corridors go without signed designations (old US 301 between DE 299 and DE 71, old DE 30 between DE 24 and 26, and to a lesser extent old US 113 into Dover) it looks like 30 is going to be left dangling partway into Millsboro ending at old DE 24.
You can find the construction plans here (https://mmp.delaware.gov/Contracts) if you search 'Millsboro'.
I wonder how likely it may be that DE 30 gets put on it now that it is truncated to DE 24.
Also can't rule out that the bypass may become a rerouted DE 24.
(For US 13/DE 9) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Winchester Bridge on 4th Street to Close for Two Weeks (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9427&type=Traffic)
The reality is that functionally, motorists don’t consider 202 to go past its northern junction with 95. No one thinks of the section of 95 thru Wilmington as part of 202, and the 141 overlap is exclusively considered to be 141 to motorists. DelDOT should truncate 202 to 95.
DelDOT and Newark are looking at removing the signal at W Park Place and Apple Road, and possibly even the signal a couple blocks down at Orchard Road as well.
https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/deldot-proposes-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_9f06eee0-4e05-58f4-805c-e71e3da5f8f0.html (https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/deldot-proposes-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_9f06eee0-4e05-58f4-805c-e71e3da5f8f0.html)
Those are the only two signal arrays in Newark remaining with any character, especially at W Park Place/Orchard Road.
(https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/newark-de/w-park-pl-e-at-orchard-rd-1.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/newark-de/w-park-pl-e-at-orchard-rd-1.jpg)
W Park Place at Orchard Road in 2017
(https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/newark-de/park-pl-w-at-apple-rd-1.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/newark-de/park-pl-w-at-apple-rd-1.jpg)
W Park Place at Apple Road in 2014
Get two and I'll meet ya. Actually get three for signalian.DelDOT and Newark are looking at removing the signal at W Park Place and Apple Road, and possibly even the signal a couple blocks down at Orchard Road as well.
https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/deldot-proposes-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_9f06eee0-4e05-58f4-805c-e71e3da5f8f0.html (https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/deldot-proposes-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_9f06eee0-4e05-58f4-805c-e71e3da5f8f0.html)
Those are the only two signal arrays in Newark remaining with any character, especially at W Park Place/Orchard Road.
(https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/newark-de/w-park-pl-e-at-orchard-rd-1.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/newark-de/w-park-pl-e-at-orchard-rd-1.jpg)
W Park Place at Orchard Road in 2017
(https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/newark-de/park-pl-w-at-apple-rd-1.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/newark-de/park-pl-w-at-apple-rd-1.jpg)
W Park Place at Apple Road in 2014
DelDOT's moving ahead with testing out the decommissioning of the light at Park Place and Apple Road.
https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/newark-oks-proposal-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_28d0ea3a-e323-5fa9-98cf-84fa1228e106.html (https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/newark-oks-proposal-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_28d0ea3a-e323-5fa9-98cf-84fa1228e106.html)
I might have to ask around and see if I can bum one of the signals off them before they get scrapped. :-P
(For I-95 and DE 896) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - I-95/896 Construction to Begin (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9502&type=Traffic)
(For I-95 and DE 896) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - I-95/896 Construction to Begin (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9502&type=Traffic)
TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - UPDATE--I-95/896 Construction to Begin (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9506)
TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - I-95/896 Interchange --Upcoming Lane and Ramp Closures (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9519)
TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - New Traffic Pattern on Southbound I-95 (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9520&type=Traffic)
That would be here, right?: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6168731,-75.3320017,1507m/data=!3m1!1e3.
That would be here, right?: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6168731,-75.3320017,1507m/data=!3m1!1e3.
Yes.
(For DE 404 BUS (Bridgeville)) BR 3-114 on Seashore Highway Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=17080)
(For DE 1/DE 16) TRAFFIC ALERT - Sussex County - New Route 1 Northbound Travel Pattern at Route 16 Begins Next Week (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9545)
(For DE 1/DE 16) TRAFFIC ALERT - Sussex County - New Route 1 Northbound Travel Pattern at Route 16 Begins Next Week (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9545)
Get two and I'll meet ya. Actually get three for signalian.DelDOT and Newark are looking at removing the signal at W Park Place and Apple Road, and possibly even the signal a couple blocks down at Orchard Road as well.
https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/deldot-proposes-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_9f06eee0-4e05-58f4-805c-e71e3da5f8f0.html (https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/deldot-proposes-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_9f06eee0-4e05-58f4-805c-e71e3da5f8f0.html)
Those are the only two signal arrays in Newark remaining with any character, especially at W Park Place/Orchard Road.
(https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/newark-de/w-park-pl-e-at-orchard-rd-1.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/newark-de/w-park-pl-e-at-orchard-rd-1.jpg)
W Park Place at Orchard Road in 2017
(https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/newark-de/park-pl-w-at-apple-rd-1.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/albums/newark-de/park-pl-w-at-apple-rd-1.jpg)
W Park Place at Apple Road in 2014
DelDOT's moving ahead with testing out the decommissioning of the light at Park Place and Apple Road.
https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/newark-oks-proposal-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_28d0ea3a-e323-5fa9-98cf-84fa1228e106.html (https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/newark-oks-proposal-to-remove-traffic-light-on-west-park-place/article_28d0ea3a-e323-5fa9-98cf-84fa1228e106.html)
I might have to ask around and see if I can bum one of the signals off them before they get scrapped. :-P
Facing blowback from the public, Newark officials are pumping the brakes on a plan to remove the traffic light at the corner of West Park Place and Apple Road.
Residents of the area packed into council chambers last week to ask council members to reconsider their earlier decision to approve the Delaware Department of Transportation’s request to convert the intersection to a four-way stop.
DelDOT recommended removing the light because it said neither the traffic volume nor the number of crashes at the intersection justify having a light there. Officials cited studies showing that converting unnecessary traffic lights to four-way stops actually make intersections safer.
Ultimately, council decided it will hold a public meeting so residents can hear from DelDOT on the issue, and vice versa. If public sentiment remains strongly opposed to removing the light, council will schedule a vote to reject the plan.
In the interim, the plan will remain on hold.
The Delaware Department of Transportation (DelDOT) announces to motorists that the left lane will be closed on southbound I-495 from the Delaware/Pennsylvania state line to the Yale Avenue Emergency Access Point (a quarter mile south of the Philadelphia Pike interchange). The lane will be closed from 9:00 am to 3:00 pm tomorrow and Wednesday, June 6th and 7th for the installation of new signs.
(For DE 24) CM/GC, North Millsboro Bypass, US 113 to SR24 has been awarded (http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicFinalBidtabDisplay&id=T202112701)
Discussion upthread indicates that it will be a rerouted DE 24. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2833009#msg2833009)
Discussion upthread indicates that it will be a rerouted DE 24. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2833009#msg2833009)
Wow, I didn’t think DE 24 was gonna be rerouted onto it since the bypass would add a lot of mileage to the route since it would have to take US 113 northwest to connect to the west end of the bypass. I thought maybe it would have remained unnumbered and been signed “To DE 24” eastbound and “To US 113” westbound
Discussion upthread indicates that it will be a rerouted DE 24. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2833009#msg2833009)
Wow, I didn’t think DE 24 was gonna be rerouted onto it since the bypass would add a lot of mileage to the route since it would have to take US 113 northwest to connect to the west end of the bypass. I thought maybe it would have remained unnumbered and been signed “To DE 24” eastbound and “To US 113” westbound
Unnumbered a la the POW/MIA Pkwy. on Dover's sw side, although that road ought to be signed "TO [DE 15 shield]" West Dover bound, and "TO [US 13 shield]" South Dover bound.
Discussion upthread indicates that it will be a rerouted DE 24. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2833009#msg2833009)
Wow, I didn’t think DE 24 was gonna be rerouted onto it since the bypass would add a lot of mileage to the route since it would have to take US 113 northwest to connect to the west end of the bypass. I thought maybe it would have remained unnumbered and been signed “To DE 24” eastbound and “To US 113” westbound
Discussion upthread indicates that it will be a rerouted DE 24. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2833009#msg2833009)
Wow, I didn’t think DE 24 was gonna be rerouted onto it since the bypass would add a lot of mileage to the route since it would have to take US 113 northwest to connect to the west end of the bypass. I thought maybe it would have remained unnumbered and been signed “To DE 24” eastbound and “To US 113” westbound
It adds about 2 miles. But avoids the 1-way/1-lane slog through downtown Millsboro and a very long wait for the light at the 24/113 intersection.
Discussion upthread indicates that it will be a rerouted DE 24. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2833009#msg2833009)
Wow, I didn’t think DE 24 was gonna be rerouted onto it since the bypass would add a lot of mileage to the route since it would have to take US 113 northwest to connect to the west end of the bypass. I thought maybe it would have remained unnumbered and been signed “To DE 24” eastbound and “To US 113” westbound
It adds about 2 miles. But avoids the 1-way/1-lane slog through downtown Millsboro and a very long wait for the light at the 24/113 intersection.
I wonder if DelDOT will designate the alignment through Millsboro as DE 24 Business once the bypass is completed.
Discussion upthread indicates that it will be a rerouted DE 24. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2833009#msg2833009)
Wow, I didn’t think DE 24 was gonna be rerouted onto it since the bypass would add a lot of mileage to the route since it would have to take US 113 northwest to connect to the west end of the bypass. I thought maybe it would have remained unnumbered and been signed “To DE 24” eastbound and “To US 113” westbound
It adds about 2 miles. But avoids the 1-way/1-lane slog through downtown Millsboro and a very long wait for the light at the 24/113 intersection.
I wonder if DelDOT will designate the alignment through Millsboro as DE 24 Business once the bypass is completed.
Considering the apparent reluctance of DelDOT to establish any new routes, I doubt it. Old SR 1 along Bay Road and old U.S. 301 between SR 71 and SR 299 became unnumbered roads. Plus the last state route added to the system was SR 404 Business in 1999 (not counting the renumbering of SR 2 along Elkton Road in Newark to SR 279). The bannered routes for SR 24, SR 30 and SR 54 have since come and gone.
Discussion upthread indicates that it will be a rerouted DE 24. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2833009#msg2833009)
Wow, I didn’t think DE 24 was gonna be rerouted onto it since the bypass would add a lot of mileage to the route since it would have to take US 113 northwest to connect to the west end of the bypass. I thought maybe it would have remained unnumbered and been signed “To DE 24” eastbound and “To US 113” westbound
Unnumbered a la the POW/MIA Pkwy. on Dover's sw side, although that road ought to be signed "TO [DE 15 shield]" West Dover bound, and "TO [US 13 shield]" South Dover bound.
There are signs along DE 15 at Saulsbury Road and North Street and the connector road from Wyoming Mill Road that sign the POW/MIA Parkway southbound as “To US 13” . In addition, a sign along the connector road from Wyoming Mill Road signs the POW/MIA Parkway northbound as “To DE 8” . However, there is no to signage for DE 8 or DE 15 along US 13.
Discussion upthread indicates that it will be a rerouted DE 24. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2833009#msg2833009)
Wow, I didn’t think DE 24 was gonna be rerouted onto it since the bypass would add a lot of mileage to the route since it would have to take US 113 northwest to connect to the west end of the bypass. I thought maybe it would have remained unnumbered and been signed “To DE 24” eastbound and “To US 113” westbound
Unnumbered a la the POW/MIA Pkwy. on Dover's sw side, although that road ought to be signed "TO [DE 15 shield]" West Dover bound, and "TO [US 13 shield]" South Dover bound.
There are signs along DE 15 at Saulsbury Road and North Street and the connector road from Wyoming Mill Road that sign the POW/MIA Parkway southbound as “To US 13” . In addition, a sign along the connector road from Wyoming Mill Road signs the POW/MIA Parkway northbound as “To DE 8” . However, there is no to signage for DE 8 or DE 15 along US 13.
But no reassurance "TO [route #]" signs along POW/MIA Pkwy. itself, right? There ought to be.
(For DE 1 and DE 16) TRAFFIC ALERT - Sussex County - New Traffic Pattern at SR 1 and SR 16 (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9611)
(For DE 1 and DE 1 BUS (Milford)) TRAFFIC ALERT - Kent and Sussex County - Ramp Closure: Route 1 Northbound Ramp to Business Route 1, South Side of Milford (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9612) (So I guess DE 1 BUS is staying now?)
(For DE 1 and DE 1 BUS (Milford)) TRAFFIC ALERT - Kent and Sussex County - Ramp Closure: Route 1 Northbound Ramp to Business Route 1, South Side of Milford (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9612) (So I guess DE 1 BUS is staying now?)
Wait, there are plans to eliminate the DE 1 Business designation? This sounds like news to me.
(For DE 1 and DE 1 BUS (Milford)) TRAFFIC ALERT - Kent and Sussex County - Ramp Closure: Route 1 Northbound Ramp to Business Route 1, South Side of Milford (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9612) (So I guess DE 1 BUS is staying now?)
Wait, there are plans to eliminate the DE 1 Business designation? This sounds like news to me.
From upthread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2681105#msg2681105 (last paragraph from Alex)
(For DE 1 and DE 1 BUS (Milford)) TRAFFIC ALERT - Kent and Sussex County - Ramp Closure: Route 1 Northbound Ramp to Business Route 1, South Side of Milford (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9612) (So I guess DE 1 BUS is staying now?)
Wait, there are plans to eliminate the DE 1 Business designation? This sounds like news to me.
From upthread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2681105#msg2681105 (last paragraph from Alex)
Wow, I never knew. But guess since they working on this ramp must mean that the business route is staying.
(For DE 1 and DE 16) TRAFFIC ALERT - Sussex County - New Traffic Pattern at SR 1 and SR 16 (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9611)
That’s interesting they’re gonna shift southbound traffic to the former northbound lanes rather than build the southbound ramps and shift southbound traffic there like they did with northbound traffic.
(For DE 1 and DE 16) TRAFFIC ALERT - Sussex County - New Traffic Pattern at SR 1 and SR 16 (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9611)
That’s interesting they’re gonna shift southbound traffic to the former northbound lanes rather than build the southbound ramps and shift southbound traffic there like they did with northbound traffic.
Hardly resembling the (temporary) relocation of the DE 1 roadways during the construction of the Bowers Beach interchange. There the ramps-to-be IIRC served as the roadways while the overpass that now carries DE 1 itself was under construction.
(For DE 2, DE 72, and DE 273) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Library Ave and Main Street Intersection to Close (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9626&type=Traffic)
(For DE 2, DE 72, and DE 273) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Library Ave and Main Street Intersection to Close (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9626&type=Traffic)
I'm curious what this is about, this is a significant near-month long closure but DelDOT has no active projects listed at the intersection and I've not found the contract for the project on the state's website at all.
Does anyone else have any insight?
EDIT: Looks like the closure is for a full-depth reconstruction of the intersection, with the pavement being converted to concrete.
https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/library-avenue/article_7c61e123-4fdc-56bb-b0a7-6ac484bb1171.html (https://www.newarkpostonline.com/news/library-avenue/article_7c61e123-4fdc-56bb-b0a7-6ac484bb1171.html)
(For DE 1 and DE 16) TRAFFIC ALERT - Sussex County - New Traffic Pattern at SR 1 and SR 16 (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9611)
Cary Todd shared this Facebook post (https://www.facebook.com/RememberWhenDE/posts/pfbid0KLTWYvnUPQM2zWNHj3GZMCWveRM2QorGaa1tMLQP1YE3W6j4eda4mdUe4rbP4y29l) with me showing this 1941 photo of US 13/202 cutouts on Front Street in Wilmington. Looking at some of the map scans I have on the site, I believe the intersection to be French Street instead of Walnut Street as the post references, since U.S. 13 used French Street at that time.
(https://www.aaroads.com/wp-content/uploads/maps/mid-atlantic/delaware_wilmington_1950.jpg)
https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2023/07/20/where-new-emoji-radar-speed-signs-will-be-installed-in-delaware/70432736007/ DelDOT using emojis on speed limit radar signs lol.
"And notice that Maryland Av. wasn't signed as DE 4 in 1941, and DE 9 didn't exist designationwise, at least in Wilmington."
First post here, native Wilmingtonian (born there 1967). Probably didn't do quoting correctly, sorry about that.
Delaware 48 went down what is now Christina Avenue all the way down to what is now the Port of Wilmington -- on the south side of where the Christina River goes into the Delaware River (not far downstream from current I-495 bridge over Christina River). At the end of Delaware 48 was the ferry terminal to Penns Grove. This was one of (if not the only one, not sure about that) the ferries that the Delaware Memorial Bridge (opened 1951) replaced.
I do not know about Delaware 9 at that time.
Welcome to the forum, glad to have you here.
A question for both you & max, were there any trolley routes still around when you guys were coming up? it's sad Wilmington removed every trolley from the city, they should have at least kept two lines.
TRAFFIC ALERT - Sussex County - Traffic Signal Activation at US 9 (Freeman Highway) at Monroe Ave - White's Pond Meadow (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9683)
TRAFFIC ALERT - Sussex County - Traffic Signal Activation at US 9 (Freeman Highway) at Monroe Ave - White's Pond Meadow (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9683)
Anticipating added traffic from the Olde Town development now under construction. The Lewes library is at that intersection too, as are the access points to two rail trails (one going to Rehoboth, the other currently going west to Harbeson but slated to go on to Georgetown).
https://www.capegazette.com/article/new-monroe-freeman-traffic-signal-goes-live-aug-7/262296
Even though production is now in Milton, purchasing of the sweet treats will still have to be done at the Rehoboth Beach location.Italics are mine, and I agree with DelDOT's thinking.
A storefront was a part of the original plans for the new production facility, but was denied by DelDOT because it falls within the Corridor Capacity Preservation Program. According to [Dolle's owner Tom] Ibach, DelDOT said retail at the site would cause too much congestion on this part of the highway.
TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Airport Road Closed Indefinitely (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9696&type=Traffic)
I-295 Northbound, DE 141 to US 13 Virtual Workshop (https://deldot.gov/projects/vw/T202109101/)
I-295 Northbound, DE 141 to US 13 Virtual Workshop (https://deldot.gov/projects/vw/T202109101/)That is awesome, that should finally take care of the NB 95/295 bottleneck.
I-295 Northbound, DE 141 to US 13 Virtual Workshop (https://deldot.gov/projects/vw/T202109101/)That is awesome, that should finally take care of the NB 95/295 bottleneck.
If only they could do something about the SB bottleneck....
The one on SR 273 and US 13 can’t be built due to the runway at New Castle Airport unless they realign SR 273 further south.
When the East and West Camden bypasses are built, will DE 10 be realigned onto the bypass and the former alignment possibly become a business route?
Any chance one of those future projects includes a conversion to mileage-based exit numbers?
QuoteThe one on SR 273 and US 13 can’t be built due to the runway at New Castle Airport unless they realign SR 273 further south.
I was thinking that DelDOT would squeeze this in as a SPUI.
QuoteThe one on SR 273 and US 13 can’t be built due to the runway at New Castle Airport unless they realign SR 273 further south.
I was thinking that DelDOT would squeeze this in as a SPUI.
I disagree with John here. If they dig into the hill, they can keep 273 at its existing grade and have 13 go underneath 273. It'd be a construction phasing nightmare, but it's possible.
QuoteThe one on SR 273 and US 13 can’t be built due to the runway at New Castle Airport unless they realign SR 273 further south.
I was thinking that DelDOT would squeeze this in as a SPUI.
I disagree with John here. If they dig into the hill, they can keep 273 at its existing grade and have 13 go underneath 273. It'd be a construction phasing nightmare, but it's possible.
Yep. If this couldn't be done, it wouldn't have been allocated funding.
Moving the travel lanes close and doing a diamond-the interchange to the outside, similar to the NB side of DE 7 at 58, would work here also.
I wouldn't be surprised if at least 2 of the businesses on the corners are acquired for the ROW for this project.
Another publication, updated yearly, https://deldot.gov/Publications/reports/CTP/pdfs/ctp-book/FY23-FY28-CTP-book.pdf?cache=1692196439391 , provides a summery description of proposed funding, but again, nothing related to renumbering exits from what I found.
Im surprised they chose to persue grade separated for 13-273 before 13/40 which can be a much bigger headache especially in current times with the increased sprawl and warehouses further down 13 and beyond now.
However like someone mentioned above a huge warehouse, and booming airport probably sparked this.
The Airport has been doing so good they are back on for Aviation funding, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a brand new terminal being built in the next 5 years.
Im surprised they chose to persue grade separated for 13-273 before 13/40 which can be a much bigger headache especially in current times with the increased sprawl and warehouses further down 13 and beyond now.
However like someone mentioned above a huge warehouse, and booming airport probably sparked this.
The Airport has been doing so good they are back on for Aviation funding, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a brand new terminal being built in the next 5 years.
That one I think is even harder to unweave. While there's a few straightforward options, the numerous businesses, a nearby fire station, and the above-grade railroad crossing make for a tricky situation. It's not impossible, but there's a bit there to work around.
QuoteThe one on SR 273 and US 13 can’t be built due to the runway at New Castle Airport unless they realign SR 273 further south.
I was thinking that DelDOT would squeeze this in as a SPUI.
I disagree with John here. If they dig into the hill, they can keep 273 at its existing grade and have 13 go underneath 273. It'd be a construction phasing nightmare, but it's possible.
Yep. If this couldn't be done, it wouldn't have been allocated funding.
Moving the travel lanes close and doing a diamond-the interchange to the outside, similar to the NB side of DE 7 at 58, would work here also.
I wouldn't be surprised if at least 2 of the businesses on the corners are acquired for the ROW for this project.
Full LED speed limit signs are working on 495 now
QuoteThe one on SR 273 and US 13 can’t be built due to the runway at New Castle Airport unless they realign SR 273 further south.
I was thinking that DelDOT would squeeze this in as a SPUI.
I disagree with John here. If they dig into the hill, they can keep 273 at its existing grade and have 13 go underneath 273. It'd be a construction phasing nightmare, but it's possible.
Yep. If this couldn't be done, it wouldn't have been allocated funding.
Moving the travel lanes close and doing a diamond-the interchange to the outside, similar to the NB side of DE 7 at 58, would work here also.
I wouldn't be surprised if at least 2 of the businesses on the corners are acquired for the ROW for this project.
What would happen to the New Castle Farmers Market? I had some of the best cheesburgers and fries in my life there. It's not quite on the ne corner but...
Considering the shallow angle, a SPUI wouldn’t work. Keeping 273 at grade and depressing 13/40 would be the only option to keep the runway operating across the intersection.QuoteThe one on SR 273 and US 13 can’t be built due to the runway at New Castle Airport unless they realign SR 273 further south.
I was thinking that DelDOT would squeeze this in as a SPUI.
I disagree with John here. If they dig into the hill, they can keep 273 at its existing grade and have 13 go underneath 273. It'd be a construction phasing nightmare, but it's possible.
So they are just going to leave it as it, my god that is awful.I-295 Northbound, DE 141 to US 13 Virtual Workshop (https://deldot.gov/projects/vw/T202109101/)That is awesome, that should finally take care of the NB 95/295 bottleneck.
If only they could do something about the SB bottleneck....
Best solution there would be to reverse the split they have on NB Route 1 - keep thru traffic on the left side and traffic on 295 SB looking to reach Route 1 would take a flyover to the right side of the road. Eliminates all of the weaving. Unfortunately, the marshland surrounding 95 limits what they can do.
Also how long is this 896 mess going to be?
General observation about the I-95/DE 896 interchange project: I just realized the closure of the I-95 NB offramp is continuous for the duration of the project, and it seems, er, interesting that the official detour is to continue to exit 3, u-turn, and access DE 896 from the I-95 SB offramps.
Setting aside the matter of a certain toll plaza, I would think that exiting early at MD 279 would be faster (toll or no toll) than the exit 3 u-turn for most destinations involving NB exit 1. Currently the only indication of anything out of the ordinary ahead of the MD 279 interchange is these red & blue detour signs right before exit 109B (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6409964,-75.8035266,3a,41.2y,121.98h,88.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-9zEJuORf3a5s6owV8RzAg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu) which I presume are related to the project but provide no additional context beyond being, well, color-coded detours. I would also venture a guess that even if you continue past exit 1 to exit 3, that it might still be faster to not bother getting back on I-95 SB depending on destination.Also how long is this 896 mess going to be?
Have you checked the project website? I'd imagine it has an estimated timeline for completion.
General observation about the I-95/DE 896 interchange project: I just realized the closure of the I-95 NB offramp is continuous for the duration of the project, and it seems, er, interesting that the official detour is to continue to exit 3, u-turn, and access DE 896 from the I-95 SB offramps.
Setting aside the matter of a certain toll plaza, I would think that exiting early at MD 279 would be faster (toll or no toll) than the exit 3 u-turn for most destinations involving NB exit 1. Currently the only indication of anything out of the ordinary ahead of the MD 279 interchange is these red & blue detour signs right before exit 109B (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6409964,-75.8035266,3a,41.2y,121.98h,88.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-9zEJuORf3a5s6owV8RzAg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu) which I presume are related to the project but provide no additional context beyond being, well, color-coded detours. I would also venture a guess that even if you continue past exit 1 to exit 3, that it might still be faster to not bother getting back on I-95 SB depending on destination.Also how long is this 896 mess going to be?
Have you checked the project website? I'd imagine it has an estimated timeline for completion.
Of course DelDOT doesn’t want detour traffic bypassing their toll plaza. They’re all about getting money from motorists so they make them pay the toll and then detour by going out of the way.
General observation about the I-95/DE 896 interchange project: I just realized the closure of the I-95 NB offramp is continuous for the duration of the project, and it seems, er, interesting that the official detour is to continue to exit 3, u-turn, and access DE 896 from the I-95 SB offramps.
Setting aside the matter of a certain toll plaza, I would think that exiting early at MD 279 would be faster (toll or no toll) than the exit 3 u-turn for most destinations involving NB exit 1. Currently the only indication of anything out of the ordinary ahead of the MD 279 interchange is these red & blue detour signs right before exit 109B (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6409964,-75.8035266,3a,41.2y,121.98h,88.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-9zEJuORf3a5s6owV8RzAg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu) which I presume are related to the project but provide no additional context beyond being, well, color-coded detours. I would also venture a guess that even if you continue past exit 1 to exit 3, that it might still be faster to not bother getting back on I-95 SB depending on destination.
That DE896/95 display is really confusing.Yes.
I cannot figure out if 896 through traffic is going to have traffic signals or be a diverging diamond.
(For DE 71 and DE 72) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - Upcoming Closure of Route 72/71 Intersection w/Corrected Detour (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9727&type=Traffic)
Thanks. Still wish DELDOT would fix 295 junction with 95SB.That DE896/95 display is really confusing.Yes.
I cannot figure out if 896 through traffic is going to have traffic signals or be a diverging diamond.
https://95896improvements.com/
has videos showing improvements
try the videos
Thanks. Still wish DELDOT would fix 295 junction with 95SB.That DE896/95 display is really confusing.Yes.
I cannot figure out if 896 through traffic is going to have traffic signals or be a diverging diamond.
https://95896improvements.com/
has videos showing improvements
try the videos
General observation about the I-95/DE 896 interchange project: I just realized the closure of the I-95 NB offramp is continuous for the duration of the project, and it seems, er, interesting that the official detour is to continue to exit 3, u-turn, and access DE 896 from the I-95 SB offramps.
Setting aside the matter of a certain toll plaza, I would think that exiting early at MD 279 would be faster (toll or no toll) than the exit 3 u-turn for most destinations involving NB exit 1. Currently the only indication of anything out of the ordinary ahead of the MD 279 interchange is these red & blue detour signs right before exit 109B (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6409964,-75.8035266,3a,41.2y,121.98h,88.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-9zEJuORf3a5s6owV8RzAg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu) which I presume are related to the project but provide no additional context beyond being, well, color-coded detours. I would also venture a guess that even if you continue past exit 1 to exit 3, that it might still be faster to not bother getting back on I-95 SB depending on destination.Also how long is this 896 mess going to be?
Have you checked the project website? I'd imagine it has an estimated timeline for completion.
Of course DelDOT doesn’t want detour traffic bypassing their toll plaza. They’re all about getting money from motorists so they make them pay the toll and then detour by going out of the way.
General observation about the I-95/DE 896 interchange project: I just realized the closure of the I-95 NB offramp is continuous for the duration of the project, and it seems, er, interesting that the official detour is to continue to exit 3, u-turn, and access DE 896 from the I-95 SB offramps.
Setting aside the matter of a certain toll plaza, I would think that exiting early at MD 279 would be faster (toll or no toll) than the exit 3 u-turn for most destinations involving NB exit 1. Currently the only indication of anything out of the ordinary ahead of the MD 279 interchange is these red & blue detour signs right before exit 109B (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6409964,-75.8035266,3a,41.2y,121.98h,88.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-9zEJuORf3a5s6owV8RzAg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu) which I presume are related to the project but provide no additional context beyond being, well, color-coded detours. I would also venture a guess that even if you continue past exit 1 to exit 3, that it might still be faster to not bother getting back on I-95 SB depending on destination.Also how long is this 896 mess going to be?
Have you checked the project website? I'd imagine it has an estimated timeline for completion.
Of course DelDOT doesn’t want detour traffic bypassing their toll plaza. They’re all about getting money from motorists so they make them pay the toll and then detour by going out of the way.
I just think it's hilarious, that this 896/95 project is only happening to due traffic shunpiking the toll to go past it into Maryland, and Newark.
They are literally building a huge ramp to handle the volume of shunpiking.
General observation about the I-95/DE 896 interchange project: I just realized the closure of the I-95 NB offramp is continuous for the duration of the project, and it seems, er, interesting that the official detour is to continue to exit 3, u-turn, and access DE 896 from the I-95 SB offramps.
Setting aside the matter of a certain toll plaza, I would think that exiting early at MD 279 would be faster (toll or no toll) than the exit 3 u-turn for most destinations involving NB exit 1. Currently the only indication of anything out of the ordinary ahead of the MD 279 interchange is these red & blue detour signs right before exit 109B (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6409964,-75.8035266,3a,41.2y,121.98h,88.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-9zEJuORf3a5s6owV8RzAg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu) which I presume are related to the project but provide no additional context beyond being, well, color-coded detours. I would also venture a guess that even if you continue past exit 1 to exit 3, that it might still be faster to not bother getting back on I-95 SB depending on destination.Also how long is this 896 mess going to be?
Have you checked the project website? I'd imagine it has an estimated timeline for completion.
Of course DelDOT doesn’t want detour traffic bypassing their toll plaza. They’re all about getting money from motorists so they make them pay the toll and then detour by going out of the way.
I just think it's hilarious, that this 896/95 project is only happening to due traffic shunpiking the toll to go past it into Maryland, and Newark.
They are literally building a huge ramp to handle the volume of shunpiking.
It is dealing with weaving traffic on SR 896 southbound between the two loop ramps with I-95, and finally addressing the growth in commuter traffic from I-95 onto SR 896 south of Newark, started with the completion of the four laning back in 1993.
Why would DelDOT consider shunpiking traffic as a reason to upgrade something?
Of the estimated Annual Average Daily Traffic of about 127,000 vehicles per day (89% passenger vehicles, 11% heavy-duty vehicles) traveling through this part of the I-95 corridor, over half (60%!) of these vehicles utilize this interchange to enter/exit I-95.
Also from 896 project page https://95896improvements.com/about/project-overview#purpose-and-need (https://95896improvements.com/about/project-overview#purpose-and-need)QuoteOf the estimated Annual Average Daily Traffic of about 127,000 vehicles per day (89% passenger vehicles, 11% heavy-duty vehicles) traveling through this part of the I-95 corridor, over half (60%!) of these vehicles utilize this interchange to enter/exit I-95.
Over 60% of people taking an exit sounds like Skipping the toll to me.
Careful. You're taking numbers before and after the interchange and assuming that's pure exit. People do enter there also. If you account for them, this traffic engineer bets that 50% is totally what's happening.Also from 896 project page https://95896improvements.com/about/project-overview#purpose-and-need (https://95896improvements.com/about/project-overview#purpose-and-need)QuoteOf the estimated Annual Average Daily Traffic of about 127,000 vehicles per day (89% passenger vehicles, 11% heavy-duty vehicles) traveling through this part of the I-95 corridor, over half (60%!) of these vehicles utilize this interchange to enter/exit I-95.
Over 60% of people taking an exit sounds like Skipping the toll to me.
We determined that number was mis-stated. Going back to this post: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2820412#msg2820412 , the traffic count North of Interchange 1 in 2021 is 117,657, and south of Interchange 1 was 79,581, showing about 33% of the traffic exited and entered here.
That said, looking at the more recent 2022 data: https://deldot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=4f76a1fa5b5c493cb3e1fad44a50dad1 , it shows traffic volumes went up prior to the interchange, but down after the interchange, which is...odd. It now shows 120,328 vehicles north of Int. 1, and 69,847 south of Int 1, revealing 42% of traffic is now exiting at the interchange in 2022. Yet looking at the traffic counts on and and near 896, they don't really reflect any major difference, and I think they actually decreased in some cases. Not sure where the additional 20,000 vehicles went.
Either way, it's not close to the 60% figure cited by the news article.
Remember also that people live, work, and go to school off 896. The traffic counts in the above show there's a significant dropoff the closer you get to the DE/MD state line via various routes that people could take to shunpike. Looking at DE 279, there's only about a 2,000 vehicle increase south of DE 4 & Red Lion Road compared to North of it. And on the other side, there's significant volume drops prior to the MD State Line.
It's also notable that even without a toll plaza, many of the people entering MD from various roads off of 896 would do so anyway if they live close to the state line. There's some significant developments within a mile of the state line that would require backtracking if someone were to enter/exit at MD 279 and go thru the toll plaza.
And finally, motorists using 95 to 896 South could be also shunpiking...DE 1 & US 301. Of the various toll free options to get to Middletown, 95 to 896 to 71 is the fastest; usually faster than taking DE 1 to US 13 south of the C&D Canal.
So, yes, people are shunpiking. Is it 60%? No - the media got that wrong, and DelDOT's traffic counts prove that. What's the actual percentage? If I had to guess some numbers, probably in the neighborhood of 10-15%, with another few percentage points of people living in MD that would utilize the interchange regardless.
Careful. You're taking numbers before and after the interchange and assuming that's pure exit. People do enter there also. If you account for them, this traffic engineer bets that 50% is totally what's happening.Also from 896 project page https://95896improvements.com/about/project-overview#purpose-and-need (https://95896improvements.com/about/project-overview#purpose-and-need)QuoteOf the estimated Annual Average Daily Traffic of about 127,000 vehicles per day (89% passenger vehicles, 11% heavy-duty vehicles) traveling through this part of the I-95 corridor, over half (60%!) of these vehicles utilize this interchange to enter/exit I-95.
Over 60% of people taking an exit sounds like Skipping the toll to me.
We determined that number was mis-stated. Going back to this post: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=372.msg2820412#msg2820412 , the traffic count North of Interchange 1 in 2021 is 117,657, and south of Interchange 1 was 79,581, showing about 33% of the traffic exited and entered here.
That said, looking at the more recent 2022 data: https://deldot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=4f76a1fa5b5c493cb3e1fad44a50dad1 , it shows traffic volumes went up prior to the interchange, but down after the interchange, which is...odd. It now shows 120,328 vehicles north of Int. 1, and 69,847 south of Int 1, revealing 42% of traffic is now exiting at the interchange in 2022. Yet looking at the traffic counts on and and near 896, they don't really reflect any major difference, and I think they actually decreased in some cases. Not sure where the additional 20,000 vehicles went.
Either way, it's not close to the 60% figure cited by the news article.
Remember also that people live, work, and go to school off 896. The traffic counts in the above show there's a significant dropoff the closer you get to the DE/MD state line via various routes that people could take to shunpike. Looking at DE 279, there's only about a 2,000 vehicle increase south of DE 4 & Red Lion Road compared to North of it. And on the other side, there's significant volume drops prior to the MD State Line.
It's also notable that even without a toll plaza, many of the people entering MD from various roads off of 896 would do so anyway if they live close to the state line. There's some significant developments within a mile of the state line that would require backtracking if someone were to enter/exit at MD 279 and go thru the toll plaza.
And finally, motorists using 95 to 896 South could be also shunpiking...DE 1 & US 301. Of the various toll free options to get to Middletown, 95 to 896 to 71 is the fastest; usually faster than taking DE 1 to US 13 south of the C&D Canal.
So, yes, people are shunpiking. Is it 60%? No - the media got that wrong, and DelDOT's traffic counts prove that. What's the actual percentage? If I had to guess some numbers, probably in the neighborhood of 10-15%, with another few percentage points of people living in MD that would utilize the interchange regardless.
Do they have the numbers for the 3 Minor roads I brought up?
Do they have the numbers for the 3 Minor roads I brought up?
Just whatever was on this link (copied from earlier): https://deldot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=4f76a1fa5b5c493cb3e1fad44a50dad1
DelDOT's website does have other traffic count links, but I haven't clicked in them to see what they offer. (Do a Google search on DelDOT traffic counts; that's the easiest way to pull up their info.)
Do they have the numbers for the 3 Minor roads I brought up?
Just whatever was on this link (copied from earlier): https://deldot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=4f76a1fa5b5c493cb3e1fad44a50dad1
DelDOT's website does have other traffic count links, but I haven't clicked in them to see what they offer. (Do a Google search on DelDOT traffic counts; that's the easiest way to pull up their info.)
Interesting thank you for that link now we can look at some data.
28,000 vehicles take those three roads I mentioned, thats not including Ironhill road which is another 11K. (I wonder if MD had this same GIS map so we can see their end)
Let’s hypothetically say 28K people got off at the ramp everyday to shunpike the toll via those three roads.
If we add 28K too the number that continues after the exit which was around 69K that brings the vehicles continuing on through the Toll at 97K
A substantial amount of vehicles.
Now looking at the 279 in Newark the averages for that road is around 27K pretty high, I didn’t expect that number, however it is a very traversed road.
I would assume that a good amount of vehicles looking at this data is in fact getting off at the Newark exit to Shunpike the toll.
What do you think?
Says a lot of smart things.Can be an idiot more often than he will admit.
Do they have the numbers for the 3 Minor roads I brought up?
Just whatever was on this link (copied from earlier): https://deldot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=4f76a1fa5b5c493cb3e1fad44a50dad1
DelDOT's website does have other traffic count links, but I haven't clicked in them to see what they offer. (Do a Google search on DelDOT traffic counts; that's the easiest way to pull up their info.)
Interesting thank you for that link now we can look at some data.
28,000 vehicles take those three roads I mentioned, thats not including Ironhill road which is another 11K. (I wonder if MD had this same GIS map so we can see their end)
Let’s hypothetically say 28K people got off at the ramp everyday to shunpike the toll via those three roads.
If we add 28K too the number that continues after the exit which was around 69K that brings the vehicles continuing on through the Toll at 97K
A substantial amount of vehicles.
Now looking at the 279 in Newark the averages for that road is around 27K pretty high, I didn’t expect that number, however it is a very traversed road.
I would assume that a good amount of vehicles looking at this data is in fact getting off at the Newark exit to Shunpike the toll.
What do you think?
There are thousands of homes in the Newark-Elkton-Glasgow triangle that are served by the SR 896 exit, and thousands more served by the SR 279 exit that can easily be served by 896 with five minutes of extra driving. Delaware's population and employment centers live north of these exits, it's only natural for trips generated by these thousands of homes to trend northward up the interstate. People are taking these exits and using the secondary roads in its vicinity because they live there. The notion of toll-skipping even being a notable source of traffic generation at these exits is ridiculous, if that were true the reciprocal exit and collecting intersections on SR 279 would be just as heinous.
EDIT - To expound on this further, here's the dividing line in terms of travel times for a trip from SB I-95 to points in Elkton / Glasgow. West of the line you're better off taking the SR 279 exit, east of it SR 896. This was assuming clear conditions, however if you define a Depart By time for the evening rush hour it does not change the dividing line appreciably. Observe just how much of Elkton and its suburbs are better off being accessed by SR 896. These exits are busy because the area around them is busy, and any additional traffic generated by people toll-skipping is a drop in the bucket compared to the sheer number of people just taking the quickest route home.
(https://i.imgur.com/zK0oXdb.png)
I do wonder if there was no toll how many more people would take that exit compared to 896 or would they continue doing the same thing.
Thanks. Still wish DELDOT would fix 295 junction with 95SB.That DE896/95 display is really confusing.Yes.
I cannot figure out if 896 through traffic is going to have traffic signals or be a diverging diamond.
https://95896improvements.com/
has videos showing improvements
try the videos
...Right now, 5 lanes* of SB 95 (combined with 495) approach DE-141 exit. The 5th lane forces an exit to Newport and the 4th lane allows for either an exit onto the C/D road or to remain on the main lanes. Let's say we force the 4th lane onto the C/D road, which will leave 3 lanes of 95 in the main lanes.
Right now, 3 lanes of 295 SB approach the merge. The left lane forces an exit onto DE-141 Newport and the right two lanes continue onto the merge. Let's instead make the left lane not force an exit, so that three lanes of 295 can continue to the merge.
As the main lanes of 95 have been reduced from 4 to 3, there now exists room for 295 to increase from 2 to 3.
(Also for US 13) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - I-495 SB Exit 1 Ramp to Rt 13 to Close for Overnight Work (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9748&type=Traffic)
Right now, 3 lanes of 295 SB approach the merge. The left lane forces an exit onto DE-141 Newport and the right two lanes continue onto the merge. Let's instead make the left lane not force an exit, so that three lanes of 295 can continue to the merge.
QuoteRight now, 3 lanes of 295 SB approach the merge. The left lane forces an exit onto DE-141 Newport and the right two lanes continue onto the merge. Let's instead make the left lane not force an exit, so that three lanes of 295 can continue to the merge.
I grew up near there. For whatever reason, way back when, it was deemed necessary to provide a ramp from I-295 south to DE 141. I'm not sure how much usage that ramp got then, or gets now.
QuoteRight now, 3 lanes of 295 SB approach the merge. The left lane forces an exit onto DE-141 Newport and the right two lanes continue onto the merge. Let's instead make the left lane not force an exit, so that three lanes of 295 can continue to the merge.
I grew up near there. For whatever reason, way back when, it was deemed necessary to provide a ramp from I-295 south to DE 141. I'm not sure how much usage that ramp got then, or gets now.
From observations, it gets a lot of usage. I've certainly used it numerous times myself going to college from NJ and going to the Newport area when I worked there and to visit people.
...Right now, 5 lanes* of SB 95 (combined with 495) approach DE-141 exit. The 5th lane forces an exit to Newport and the 4th lane allows for either an exit onto the C/D road or to remain on the main lanes. Let's say we force the 4th lane onto the C/D road, which will leave 3 lanes of 95 in the main lanes.
This is what formerly existed. DelDOT recently modified the traffic pattern giving 95 South 4 lanes past 141.QuoteRight now, 3 lanes of 295 SB approach the merge. The left lane forces an exit onto DE-141 Newport and the right two lanes continue onto the merge. Let's instead make the left lane not force an exit, so that three lanes of 295 can continue to the merge.
I believe the new overpass allows for 3 lanes. However, under the current lane structure, 2 lanes continue under 141. Just as 295 merges with 95, the left lane ends, leaving only 1 thru lane for 295 to continue onto 95.
Because the signage for the ending of the left lane is posted prior to the merge of 295 and 95, those all-too-kind motorists who want to immediately vacate the ending lane rather than staying in it until near the end point wind up creating the effect where 295 only really gets 1 lane merging into 95, as the remaining 1/2 mile or so of the left lane from 295 is often unused.
I'm figuring that DelDOT wants to give motorists that commute to/from Wilmington the wider configuration so they incur less congestion. In the meantime, the traffic that is coming in from NJ, especially Friday - Sunday, encounters a lot more congestion than they did previously.
And this is after the DRBA spent a lot of money widening 295 to improve traffic flow in their jurisdiction.QuoteAs the main lanes of 95 have been reduced from 4 to 3, there now exists room for 295 to increase from 2 to 3.
Just to note...I'm not sure if your intention is to increase the number of lanes to 6 on 95 between 141 & 1, because currently there's only 5.
...Right now, 5 lanes* of SB 95 (combined with 495) approach DE-141 exit. The 5th lane forces an exit to Newport and the 4th lane allows for either an exit onto the C/D road or to remain on the main lanes. Let's say we force the 4th lane onto the C/D road, which will leave 3 lanes of 95 in the main lanes.
This is what formerly existed. DelDOT recently modified the traffic pattern giving 95 South 4 lanes past 141.QuoteRight now, 3 lanes of 295 SB approach the merge. The left lane forces an exit onto DE-141 Newport and the right two lanes continue onto the merge. Let's instead make the left lane not force an exit, so that three lanes of 295 can continue to the merge.
I believe the new overpass allows for 3 lanes. However, under the current lane structure, 2 lanes continue under 141. Just as 295 merges with 95, the left lane ends, leaving only 1 thru lane for 295 to continue onto 95.
Because the signage for the ending of the left lane is posted prior to the merge of 295 and 95, those all-too-kind motorists who want to immediately vacate the ending lane rather than staying in it until near the end point wind up creating the effect where 295 only really gets 1 lane merging into 95, as the remaining 1/2 mile or so of the left lane from 295 is often unused.
I'm figuring that DelDOT wants to give motorists that commute to/from Wilmington the wider configuration so they incur less congestion. In the meantime, the traffic that is coming in from NJ, especially Friday - Sunday, encounters a lot more congestion than they did previously.
And this is after the DRBA spent a lot of money widening 295 to improve traffic flow in their jurisdiction.QuoteAs the main lanes of 95 have been reduced from 4 to 3, there now exists room for 295 to increase from 2 to 3.
Just to note...I'm not sure if your intention is to increase the number of lanes to 6 on 95 between 141 & 1, because currently there's only 5.
Ideally, the wider, the better. But the plan as outlined basically maintains the existing 5 lanes that cross the Christina River (south of DE 141). This is probably a big constraint that can't be easily fixed, but how the lanes approach that point could be addressed.
The key problem is that of three lanes coming from 295, only one of which remains a thru lane onto 95 south of the merge. On weekends, arguably, the heavier traffic load is coming from 295. My idea was to implement a minimal plan so that at least two lanes of 295 become 2 lanes of 95 south of the merge.
The changes that they made were certainly better than the old configuration, but the problem was that the new configuration favored 95 over 295 to such a great degree.
THe key problem is that ultimately only one lane of 295 ends up as a thru lane on 95 approaching the DE 1 interchange. That's ultimately a large amount of merging considering 4 lanes coming from the Del Mem Bridge. Two lanes of 295 need to end up on 95.
So for the 5 lanes crossing at Cristina River, the left two should be from 295. The right 3 should be from 95. The current configuration is more like 1 lane from 295 and 4 lanes from 95, which is so greatly imbalanced.
So with the existing construction in place, an easy fix can be had just by way of striping:
Three lanes of 295 approaching. The left lane will either exit at DE-141 or merge in just a short while later. This leaves two lanes of 295 in the left most lanes that are separated by barrier. Instead of having the left of these two lanes merge just south of the end of the barrier, these two left lanes become the two left lanes of the combined 95.
The five lanes of 95 that approach can keep their existing pattern at the DE-141 exit: 3 lanes thru, 1 option lane to thru or C/D, and 1 exiting lane. This leaves 4 lanes of 95 on the main approach around the DE 141 exit (that is separated from 295 and C/D traffic by barriers). But at some point in time before the C/D lane ends and merges in, the rightmost of those lanes should end so that traffic will merge in. THe best location for this is just south of the DE 141 SB overcrossing. [To some extent this is like the original configuration, but gives a little more time for the 4th lane to merge in and not force all of the 4th lane traffic onto the C/D lane.] The end result will leave 3 lanes of 95 at the point where the C/D lane begins to merge back in to the main flow of traffic.
The C/D lane remains unchanged.
What is odd to me is that 95 itself is only 2 lanes SB thru Downtwon Wilmington. It gets a third lane from MLK and maintains the three lanes through the merge with 495, not forcing any of its lanes to merge onto 295 or 141, for that matter. It is far different from 495 which arguably is designed to be the main route from Philadelphia (most signs encouraging thru traffic to use 495 instead of 95) and is at least 3 lanes through most of the port area. The left of those forces an exit onto 295 and the remaining two have to merge with each other when 495 merges with 95. This also seems harsh for the traffic from 495 having to make more merges than 95 traffic. It would seem easier to somehow get 95 back to two lanes as it approaches 495, since it is 3 lanes for a much smaller distance.
There had been talk of a shoulder lane being built over the marsh the next time DelDOT repaved this segment of I-95, but the plans for it have disappeared off their website so I have no idea if they're still considering it. And even then I don't remember the proposed layout well enough, it may have just benefited I-95 further.
Ultimately, the Churchman's Marsh area of 95 South in Delaware can be a huge chokepoint. North of 141, there's 3 lanes from 95, 3 lanes from 495, and 4 lanes from 295. That's 10 lanes, that all need to somehow narrow down to 5 lanes on 95 south of 141.
I-495 loses one where it exits onto 295 North, then the left lane ends after meeting up with 95, so we're down to 8 lanes merging into 5. 295 South loses 1 at the 13/40 exit, then another at the 141 exit, then another as it merges with 95, giving us the remaining 5 lanes.
Pulling up DelDOT's traffic count page again: https://deldot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=4f76a1fa5b5c493cb3e1fad44a50dad1 , if you zoom in on the 95/295/495 interchange area, the first thing that's notable is that the counts are for both directions, so roughly divide them in half for a single direction. It shows I-95 AADT of 98k, and I-295 Traffic of 96k just before the merge. Since these appear to be 2 way counts, cut them in half so 95 traffic is roughly 49k and 295 is 48k. Since the counts are probably before the 141 interchange, some traffic will be exiting there before the 95/295 merge. However, DelDOT has allocated 4 thru lanes to 95, and 1 thru lane to 295, after the 95/295 merge, even though traffic counts are fairly similar on both roadways at this point. No wonder why congestion is significantly worse on 295 approaching 95.
Now, granted, these aren't exact figures because of omitted data including ramp data, I don't know the time period of when the counts occurred, and of course don't have the breakdown of weekday vs weekend, summer vs winter, etc. But there's some fairly reasonable numbers here that show that DelDOT is screwing with traffic that is mainly coming from NJ.
Very cynical me even wonders if Delaware is intentionally trying to create congestion on 295 in hopes that GPSs will register a quicker way by crossing a bridge into PA then go thru Delaware, using either 95 or 495, to "show off" more of Delaware to passing motorists in hopes that they'll stop and visit.There had been talk of a shoulder lane being built over the marsh the next time DelDOT repaved this segment of I-95, but the plans for it have disappeared off their website so I have no idea if they're still considering it. And even then I don't remember the proposed layout well enough, it may have just benefited I-95 further.
I had noticed discussion of this went quiet. I could see Delaware State Police and fire companies wanting those shoulders available without traffic riding on them to get to incidents and to move crashes onto them and dissuaded DelDOT from using them as occasional travel lanes.
Does anyone know the reason why the 295 Ramp just wasn't built on the right? I can assume it was probably cost savings at that time, but that would have eliminated majority of the merging issues on that side, for the left at least.
Does anyone know the reason why the 295 Ramp just wasn't built on the right? I can assume it was probably cost savings at that time, but that would have eliminated majority of the merging issues on that side, for the left at least.
Given I-295 serves more regional traffic, I'd imagine forcing that regional traffic to conflict even more with local traffic on the right side of I-95 coming from DE 141 and going to DE 1, 273, etc. would make for a bigger mess. I don't know if this was the line of thinking back in the '60s when this was built, or if it was just a matter of simplifying the already convoluted interchange.
Does anyone know the reason why the 295 Ramp just wasn't built on the right? I can assume it was probably cost savings at that time, but that would have eliminated majority of the merging issues on that side, for the left at least.
Given I-295 serves more regional traffic, I'd imagine forcing that regional traffic to conflict even more with local traffic on the right side of I-95 coming from DE 141 and going to DE 1, 273, etc. would make for a bigger mess. I don't know if this was the line of thinking back in the '60s when this was built, or if it was just a matter of simplifying the already convoluted interchange.
Does anyone know the reason why the 295 Ramp just wasn't built on the right? I can assume it was probably cost savings at that time, but that would have eliminated majority of the merging issues on that side, for the left at least.
Given I-295 serves more regional traffic, I'd imagine forcing that regional traffic to conflict even more with local traffic on the right side of I-95 coming from DE 141 and going to DE 1, 273, etc. would make for a bigger mess. I don't know if this was the line of thinking back in the '60s when this was built, or if it was just a matter of simplifying the already convoluted interchange.
DE 1 intersecting with I-95 did not exist in the '60s. that came much later.
At that time, that interchange was just a "regular one" for DE 7.
Christiana Mall at that interchange did not come along until 1978.
The future mushrooming of that DE 1/DE 7 interchange was not known. Southbound traffic back then would get off at US 13/US 40 interchange further east (which at times was also southbound US 301). The growth in traffic in general was not adequately anticipated in the '60s (but that could probably be said for many places).
BTW, if you look up this interchange area on www.historicaerials.com , you'll see how the Christiana River was significantly rerouted in the area when the interchange was built.
And how there used to be an I-495 SB to I-95 NB ramp included in the interchange's original design that seemed to only last <10 years in service before being replaced by the I-495 to DE 141 ramp. I often wonder what the thinking was in including this originally, perhaps there were concerns the Port of Wilmington would need the access?
Yes, that part of that spaghetti bowl was a landmark on my trips (as a passenger) to the Delaware beaches when I was growing up in Boothwyn, PA. Pre I-495, we'd go by way of 95, 295, and 13/40 to the split where 84 Lumber is now, then down 13.
I noticed on the "Interstate 95 in Delaware" Wikipedia page that "In April 2021, Wilmington city council unanimously approved backing a plan for constructing an urban park over I-95 in the city", guessing similar to what was done in Boston and downtown Philadelphia. That's now 2 1/2 years ago, not sure what has transpired since then.
I mentioned in an earlier post that building I-95 through downtown Wilmington was very divisive in the 1960s because of the neighborhoods destroyed for it to be built (Washington DC must have gotten at least some of its cue from what happened in Wilmington; I don't know as much about what happened in Boston).
I noticed on the "Interstate 95 in Delaware" Wikipedia page that "In April 2021, Wilmington city council unanimously approved backing a plan for constructing an urban park over I-95 in the city", guessing similar to what was done in Boston and downtown Philadelphia. That's now 2 1/2 years ago, not sure what has transpired since then.
I mentioned in an earlier post that building I-95 through downtown Wilmington was very divisive in the 1960s because of the neighborhoods destroyed for it to be built (Washington DC must have gotten at least some of its cue from what happened in Wilmington; I don't know as much about what happened in Boston).
A feasibility study cosponsored by DelDOT, WILMAPCO, and Wilmington itself wrapped up earlier this year, you can see the results here: http://www.wilmapco.org/i95cap/ (http://www.wilmapco.org/i95cap/)
Unfortunately it seems the project has hit the inevitable brick wall that is its bill. (https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/local/2023/06/14/i95-park-project-wilmington-interstate-lacks-money/70303819007/) The article indicates it'll run $400m and that the state's trying to cover a significant chunk of it through federal grants.
They may receive less than 50%. States will look for multiple funding sources for projects and take whatever they can get, not necessarily all-or-nothing.I noticed on the "Interstate 95 in Delaware" Wikipedia page that "In April 2021, Wilmington city council unanimously approved backing a plan for constructing an urban park over I-95 in the city", guessing similar to what was done in Boston and downtown Philadelphia. That's now 2 1/2 years ago, not sure what has transpired since then.
I mentioned in an earlier post that building I-95 through downtown Wilmington was very divisive in the 1960s because of the neighborhoods destroyed for it to be built (Washington DC must have gotten at least some of its cue from what happened in Wilmington; I don't know as much about what happened in Boston).
A feasibility study cosponsored by DelDOT, WILMAPCO, and Wilmington itself wrapped up earlier this year, you can see the results here: http://www.wilmapco.org/i95cap/ (http://www.wilmapco.org/i95cap/)
Unfortunately it seems the project has hit the inevitable brick wall that is its bill. (https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/local/2023/06/14/i95-park-project-wilmington-interstate-lacks-money/70303819007/) The article indicates it'll run $400m and that the state's trying to cover a significant chunk of it through federal grants.
Per that article:
"President Joe Biden’s infrastructure bill allocated $1 billion to reconnect communities divided by highways and other roads. Proponents of the I-95 cap in Wilmington are confident this project meets the standards necessary to obtain grant money but acknowledged the federal grant process is extremely competitive. Even if the grant were awarded, it covers only 50% of costs, leaving the state to find a way to pay for the rest."
Based on the article, the project could receive $200 million. Even with the President being a state resident, they're not going to award 1/5th of the available money to a medium size city that the state is constantly trying to get the thru-traffic to avoid.
They may receive less than 50%. States will look for multiple funding sources for projects and take whatever they can get, not necessarily all-or-nothing.I noticed on the "Interstate 95 in Delaware" Wikipedia page that "In April 2021, Wilmington city council unanimously approved backing a plan for constructing an urban park over I-95 in the city", guessing similar to what was done in Boston and downtown Philadelphia. That's now 2 1/2 years ago, not sure what has transpired since then.
I mentioned in an earlier post that building I-95 through downtown Wilmington was very divisive in the 1960s because of the neighborhoods destroyed for it to be built (Washington DC must have gotten at least some of its cue from what happened in Wilmington; I don't know as much about what happened in Boston).
A feasibility study cosponsored by DelDOT, WILMAPCO, and Wilmington itself wrapped up earlier this year, you can see the results here: http://www.wilmapco.org/i95cap/ (http://www.wilmapco.org/i95cap/)
Unfortunately it seems the project has hit the inevitable brick wall that is its bill. (https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/local/2023/06/14/i95-park-project-wilmington-interstate-lacks-money/70303819007/) The article indicates it'll run $400m and that the state's trying to cover a significant chunk of it through federal grants.
Per that article:
"President Joe Biden’s infrastructure bill allocated $1 billion to reconnect communities divided by highways and other roads. Proponents of the I-95 cap in Wilmington are confident this project meets the standards necessary to obtain grant money but acknowledged the federal grant process is extremely competitive. Even if the grant were awarded, it covers only 50% of costs, leaving the state to find a way to pay for the rest."
Based on the article, the project could receive $200 million. Even with the President being a state resident, they're not going to award 1/5th of the available money to a medium size city that the state is constantly trying to get the thru-traffic to avoid.
Ultimately, the Churchman's Marsh area of 95 South in Delaware can be a huge chokepoint. North of 141, there's 3 lanes from 95, 3 lanes from 495, and 4 lanes from 295. That's 10 lanes, that all need to somehow narrow down to 5 lanes on 95 south of 141.
I-495 loses one where it exits onto 295 North, then the left lane ends after meeting up with 95, so we're down to 8 lanes merging into 5. 295 South loses 1 at the 13/40 exit, then another at the 141 exit, then another as it merges with 95, giving us the remaining 5 lanes.
Pulling up DelDOT's traffic count page again: https://deldot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=4f76a1fa5b5c493cb3e1fad44a50dad1 , if you zoom in on the 95/295/495 interchange area, the first thing that's notable is that the counts are for both directions, so roughly divide them in half for a single direction. It shows I-95 AADT of 98k, and I-295 Traffic of 96k just before the merge. Since these appear to be 2 way counts, cut them in half so 95 traffic is roughly 49k and 295 is 48k. Since the counts are probably before the 141 interchange, some traffic will be exiting there before the 95/295 merge. However, DelDOT has allocated 4 thru lanes to 95, and 1 thru lane to 295, after the 95/295 merge, even though traffic counts are fairly similar on both roadways at this point. No wonder why congestion is significantly worse on 295 approaching 95.
Now, granted, these aren't exact figures because of omitted data including ramp data, I don't know the time period of when the counts occurred, and of course don't have the breakdown of weekday vs weekend, summer vs winter, etc. But there's some fairly reasonable numbers here that show that DelDOT is screwing with traffic that is mainly coming from NJ.
Ultimately, the Churchman's Marsh area of 95 South in Delaware can be a huge chokepoint. North of 141, there's 3 lanes from 95, 3 lanes from 495, and 4 lanes from 295. That's 10 lanes, that all need to somehow narrow down to 5 lanes on 95 south of 141.
I-495 loses one where it exits onto 295 North, then the left lane ends after meeting up with 95, so we're down to 8 lanes merging into 5. 295 South loses 1 at the 13/40 exit, then another at the 141 exit, then another as it merges with 95, giving us the remaining 5 lanes.
Pulling up DelDOT's traffic count page again: https://deldot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=4f76a1fa5b5c493cb3e1fad44a50dad1 , if you zoom in on the 95/295/495 interchange area, the first thing that's notable is that the counts are for both directions, so roughly divide them in half for a single direction. It shows I-95 AADT of 98k, and I-295 Traffic of 96k just before the merge. Since these appear to be 2 way counts, cut them in half so 95 traffic is roughly 49k and 295 is 48k. Since the counts are probably before the 141 interchange, some traffic will be exiting there before the 95/295 merge. However, DelDOT has allocated 4 thru lanes to 95, and 1 thru lane to 295, after the 95/295 merge, even though traffic counts are fairly similar on both roadways at this point. No wonder why congestion is significantly worse on 295 approaching 95.
Now, granted, these aren't exact figures because of omitted data including ramp data, I don't know the time period of when the counts occurred, and of course don't have the breakdown of weekday vs weekend, summer vs winter, etc. But there's some fairly reasonable numbers here that show that DelDOT is screwing with traffic that is mainly coming from NJ.
This basically sums it up. Even though traffic counts of the combined 95/495 and 295 are roughly equal, all of 295 traffic has to be shrunk down to only one thru lane, whereas the d95/495 traffic gets 4 thru lanes. Ideally, of course, it should be two and three.
And if one were to say that the rightmost lane doesn't count since it forces an exit to DE-1, then the split in traffic should be two and two. Of the four lanes that "survive" leading to the MD border, two of which should be from 295 and two of which should be from 95/495. Based on traffic counts it makes sense. But since DE is paying for it, More of DE traffic is coming from 95/495 so that is the preferred movement, unfortunately.
And things may be even worse if De Mem Bridge becomes all electronic tolling. 4 lanes of bridge traffic (sourced from the combination of NJTP and 295 in NJ, which certainly requires 4 lanes minimum), unadulterated by the toll plaza is forced in a relatively short time into only one thru lane. It simply doesn't work.
IMO, the easiest fix, based on what is currently there, is to simply end the right lane of the combined 95/495 thru lanes, 4->3 as the roadway passes under DE-141. The 4th lane traffic will have to merge left. This will allow 2 lanes of 295 to become the 2 left lanes south of the junction. And the remaining 3 lanes are sourced from 95/495, but all of that traffic has several opportunities to merge with each other to become 3 lanes far more smoothly.
Is Elsmere a control city now, in between Newport and Fairfax on 141? One sign that I go past on my commute, in Newport, was recently changed to "DE-141 north, Elsmere".
Is Elsmere a control city now, in between Newport and Fairfax on 141? One sign that I go past on my commute, in Newport, was recently changed to "DE-141 north, Elsmere".
DE 141 doesn’t go directly to Elsmere, but it does have access to it via the DE 2 interchange. Prices Corner might be a better control city or should have just left it as Fairfax.
Now that you mention it, Greenville would make more sense as a control city. And no, Prices Corner and Fairfax are not incorporated. (Neither is Greenville, but it's more identifiable as a place.) I never quite know what DelDOT is thinking.
I don't know what the Rollins building is technicially called now. (And I work for New Castle County, even.) Greenville would work at least as well as Fairfax for a control city, probably better than Elsmere. DelDOT is so scattershot with its signage that the fact that they didn't just carbon-copy this sign is significant enough, but I have no idea why they picked Elsmere.
I would like to know why Newport is a solo control city in both directions on 141, besides that fact that it's incorporated and 141 goes right on top of it. Most traffic in either direction isn't getting off there.
I don't know what the Rollins building is technicially called now. (And I work for New Castle County, even.) Greenville would work at least as well as Fairfax for a control city, probably better than Elsmere. DelDOT is so scattershot with its signage that the fact that they didn't just carbon-copy this sign is significant enough, but I have no idea why they picked Elsmere.
I would like to know why Newport is a solo control city in both directions on 141, besides that fact that it's incorporated and 141 goes right on top of it. Most traffic in either direction isn't getting off there.
Now that you mention it, Greenville would make more sense as a control city. And no, Prices Corner and Fairfax are not incorporated. (Neither is Greenville, but it's more identifiable as a place.) I never quite know what DelDOT is thinking.[E]xplaining to out-of-state people where I grew up, to those who know the area but not well, I always mention the Rolllns Building which was about half a mile due west of where I lived. Everyone seems to remember that building if they have seen it. It is across the street from the Fairfax Shopping Center, which is what I think of when I see "Fairfax" as a control city.
Now that I live in Baltimore-DC area, I have had several occasions on airplane flights to/from New England cities to fly near Wilmington at altitude, and that Rollins Building is very prominent from the air, being on the Piedmont which is itself a couple hundred feet elevation above Wilmington, and also very isolated (nothing remotely challenges its height in that area with except some radio towers (e.g., WDEL/WSTW and WJBR) which you can't see well from the air).
Now that you mention it, Greenville would make more sense as a control city. And no, Prices Corner and Fairfax are not incorporated. (Neither is Greenville, but it's more identifiable as a place.) I never quite know what DelDOT is thinking.[E]xplaining to out-of-state people where I grew up, to those who know the area but not well, I always mention the Rolllns Building which was about half a mile due west of where I lived. Everyone seems to remember that building if they have seen it. It is across the street from the Fairfax Shopping Center, which is what I think of when I see "Fairfax" as a control city.
Now that I live in Baltimore-DC area, I have had several occasions on airplane flights to/from New England cities to fly near Wilmington at altitude, and that Rollins Building is very prominent from the air, being on the Piedmont which is itself a couple hundred feet elevation above Wilmington, and also very isolated (nothing remotely challenges its height in that area with except some radio towers (e.g., WDEL/WSTW and WJBR) which you can't see well from the air).
It's also prominent if you are driving north on I-495 and bravely glance to your left at the apex of the Christina River bridge.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7262821,-75.5322545,3a,15y,352.05h,91.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s10njWZKSeHTK505FyaKlUg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Now that you mention it, Greenville would make more sense as a control city. And no, Prices Corner and Fairfax are not incorporated. (Neither is Greenville, but it's more identifiable as a place.) I never quite know what DelDOT is thinking.[E]xplaining to out-of-state people where I grew up, to those who know the area but not well, I always mention the Rolllns Building which was about half a mile due west of where I lived. Everyone seems to remember that building if they have seen it. It is across the street from the Fairfax Shopping Center, which is what I think of when I see "Fairfax" as a control city.
Now that I live in Baltimore-DC area, I have had several occasions on airplane flights to/from New England cities to fly near Wilmington at altitude, and that Rollins Building is very prominent from the air, being on the Piedmont which is itself a couple hundred feet elevation above Wilmington, and also very isolated (nothing remotely challenges its height in that area with except some radio towers (e.g., WDEL/WSTW and WJBR) which you can't see well from the air).
It's also prominent if you are driving north on I-495 and bravely glance to your left at the apex of the Christina River bridge.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7262821,-75.5322545,3a,15y,352.05h,91.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s10njWZKSeHTK505FyaKlUg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Also from the Delaware Memorial Bridge which is the same view in the same direction but a couple miles farther away (in other words, from the DMB, the 495 bridge is in that viewline too). As a driver, easier to see driving westbound on the DMB (you would look about 45 degrees to the right) but for obvious reasons I wouldn't recommend doing that in traffic.
Now that you mention it, Greenville would make more sense as a control city. And no, Prices Corner and Fairfax are not incorporated. (Neither is Greenville, but it's more identifiable as a place.) I never quite know what DelDOT is thinking.[E]xplaining to out-of-state people where I grew up, to those who know the area but not well, I always mention the Rolllns Building which was about half a mile due west of where I lived. Everyone seems to remember that building if they have seen it. It is across the street from the Fairfax Shopping Center, which is what I think of when I see "Fairfax" as a control city.
Now that I live in Baltimore-DC area, I have had several occasions on airplane flights to/from New England cities to fly near Wilmington at altitude, and that Rollins Building is very prominent from the air, being on the Piedmont which is itself a couple hundred feet elevation above Wilmington, and also very isolated (nothing remotely challenges its height in that area with except some radio towers (e.g., WDEL/WSTW and WJBR) which you can't see well from the air).
It's also prominent if you are driving north on I-495 and bravely glance to your left at the apex of the Christina River bridge.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7262821,-75.5322545,3a,15y,352.05h,91.59t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s10njWZKSeHTK505FyaKlUg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Also from the Delaware Memorial Bridge which is the same view in the same direction but a couple miles farther away (in other words, from the DMB, the 495 bridge is in that viewline too). As a driver, easier to see driving westbound on the DMB (you would look about 45 degrees to the right) but for obvious reasons I wouldn't recommend doing that in traffic.
Which is why I included "bravely" in my Christina River bridge reference. Iykwim. :cool:
Down in Nassau, a house has been moved to make way for the New Road extension that will take New Road under DE 1. The project includes a pair of roundabouts.
https://www.capegazette.com/article/house-moved-make-way-new-nassau-road/267585
(For DE 20) US 113 AT SR 20 GRADE SEPARATED INTERSECTION has been awarded (https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicFinalBidtabDisplay&id=T202112702)
(For DE 20) US 113 AT SR 20 GRADE SEPARATED INTERSECTION has been awarded (https://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicFinalBidtabDisplay&id=T202112702)
Plans for this can be found here - [DIRECT PDF DOWNLOAD] (https://gssdocs.deldot.delaware.gov/bids/T202112702%20Construction%20Plans.pdf)
The plan set re-confirms that DE 24 will be routed onto the bypass then back down US 113, and confirms that old DE 24 through downtown Millsboro will be signed as Business 24. Interestingly, this will also be signed as Exit 12 off US 113.
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Interestingly, this will also be signed as Exit 12 off US 113.
Right, but are there any other numbered exits on 113?Interestingly, this will also be signed as Exit 12 off US 113.
Makes sense…it’s 12 miles from the Maryland line…
Right, but are there any other numbered exits on 113?Interestingly, this will also be signed as Exit 12 off US 113.
Makes sense…it’s 12 miles from the Maryland line…
This new interchange will be the first interchange along US 113 in the state of Delaware, save for the one at its northern terminus with DE 1. 113 used to continue up DE 1 to end at US 13 in Dover, but was truncated in 2004.
(Affects DE 41, and the presentation mentions former DE 34) Bridges 1-162, 1-183, 1-615 and 1-616 over Hyde Run Virtual Workshop (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T202007104)
(Affects DE 41, and the presentation mentions former DE 34) Bridges 1-162, 1-183, 1-615 and 1-616 over Hyde Run Virtual Workshop (https://deldot.gov/projects/index.shtml?dc=details&projectNumber=T202007104)
I don’t know why DelDOT would refer to a road by a designation it decommissioned a few years ago. Almost seems like they should have just left DE 34 stay.
Statewide - DelDOT Honored for Reducing Severe Crashes at Intersections Using All-Way Stop Control (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9890&type=News)
2023 National Roadway Safety Awards recognize innovations to protect pedestrians, cyclists and motorists as pandemic spike in U.S. road fatalities continues largely unabated.
Statewide - DelDOT Honored for Reducing Severe Crashes at Intersections Using All-Way Stop Control (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9890&type=News)Quote2023 National Roadway Safety Awards recognize innovations to protect pedestrians, cyclists and motorists as pandemic spike in U.S. road fatalities continues largely unabated.
How is an All Way Stop intersection innovative?
Between 2017 and 2020, DelDOT converted 20 low-volume intersections statewide, mostly in rural and suburban areas, from two-way to all-way stops. In the two years after the change (2021 and 2022), the number of crashes at those intersections fell by 71 percent overall. Fatal crashes dropped by 75 percent, while crashes with injuries plummeted by 90 percent.
This new interchange will be the first interchange along US 113 in the state of Delaware, save for the one at its northern terminus with DE 1. 113 used to continue up DE 1 to end at US 13 in Dover, but was truncated in 2004.
Construction should begin next year on an interchange between US 113 and DE 18/DE 404 in Georgetown. There are also plans to build an interchange at US 113 and DE 16 in Ellendale.
This new interchange will be the first interchange along US 113 in the state of Delaware, save for the one at its northern terminus with DE 1. 113 used to continue up DE 1 to end at US 13 in Dover, but was truncated in 2004.
Construction should begin next year on an interchange between US 113 and DE 18/DE 404 in Georgetown. There are also plans to build an interchange at US 113 and DE 16 in Ellendale.
A Hardee's on the site of the project has closed its doors, apparently forever, without waiting for condemnation.
https://www.wrde.com/news/business-closes-due-to-georgetown-overpass-construction/article_df20650a-8d95-11ee-892a-df9af3a695bc.html
This new interchange will be the first interchange along US 113 in the state of Delaware, save for the one at its northern terminus with DE 1. 113 used to continue up DE 1 to end at US 13 in Dover, but was truncated in 2004.
Construction should begin next year on an interchange between US 113 and DE 18/DE 404 in Georgetown. There are also plans to build an interchange at US 113 and DE 16 in Ellendale.
A Hardee's on the site of the project has closed its doors, apparently forever, without waiting for condemnation.
https://www.wrde.com/news/business-closes-due-to-georgetown-overpass-construction/article_df20650a-8d95-11ee-892a-df9af3a695bc.html
The US 9 TRUCK Route realignment in Georgetown apparently opened in September, and I just now found out about it. (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6712478,-75.3857963,3a,75y,128.01h,86.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVRvBkDZdtr5fk-TVRIxl3Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
The US 9 TRUCK Route realignment in Georgetown apparently opened in September, and I just now found out about it. (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6712478,-75.3857963,3a,75y,128.01h,86.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVRvBkDZdtr5fk-TVRIxl3Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
The Street View imagery from September shows the sign blade showing the new alignment of US 9 Truck along Arrow Safety Road, yet past the intersection is a sign pointing for US 9 Truck/DE 404 Truck to continue south along US 113 to South Bedford Street. Also there is no US 9 Truck reassurance markers along Arrow Safety Road past US 113. Construction may have not been 100 percent complete at the time of the imagery or else DelDOT did not bother to update all the signage to reflect the new truck route. The Park Avenue Relocation project for the new truck route isn’t due to be complete until 2024 according to DelDOT’s website, so it’s likely US 9 Truck is still on its old alignment and the sign blade is just getting ahead for when the new alignment will be implemented.
This new interchange will be the first interchange along US 113 in the state of Delaware, save for the one at its northern terminus with DE 1. 113 used to continue up DE 1 to end at US 13 in Dover, but was truncated in 2004.
Construction should begin next year on an interchange between US 113 and DE 18/DE 404 in Georgetown. There are also plans to build an interchange at US 113 and DE 16 in Ellendale.
A Hardee's on the site of the project has closed its doors, apparently forever, without waiting for condemnation.
https://www.wrde.com/news/business-closes-due-to-georgetown-overpass-construction/article_df20650a-8d95-11ee-892a-df9af3a695bc.html
Per the article the land was acquired by the State. So the condemnation process has already taken place, the property sold and it's no longer their building.
The US 9 TRUCK Route realignment in Georgetown apparently opened in September, and I just now found out about it. (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6712478,-75.3857963,3a,75y,128.01h,86.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVRvBkDZdtr5fk-TVRIxl3Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
The Street View imagery from September shows the sign blade showing the new alignment of US 9 Truck along Arrow Safety Road, yet past the intersection is a sign pointing for US 9 Truck/DE 404 Truck to continue south along US 113 to South Bedford Street. Also there is no US 9 Truck reassurance markers along Arrow Safety Road past US 113. Construction may have not been 100 percent complete at the time of the imagery or else DelDOT did not bother to update all the signage to reflect the new truck route. The Park Avenue Relocation project for the new truck route isn’t due to be complete until 2024 according to DelDOT’s website, so it’s likely US 9 Truck is still on its old alignment and the sign blade is just getting ahead for when the new alignment will be implemented.
Yeah, I had forgotten that there was a relocation east of Arrow Safety Rd.
I noticed that Thompson Road in Milford didn’t exist prior to the interchange on DE 1 opened in circa 2017. Older imagery prior to 2016 shows no former intersection at that location that the interchange replaced.
Is Thompson Road one of those development enhancements that either Sussex County or Milford built to encourage economic growth?
I noticed that Thompson Road in Milford didn’t exist prior to the interchange on DE 1 opened in circa 2017. Older imagery prior to 2016 shows no former intersection at that location that the interchange replaced.
Is Thompson Road one of those development enhancements that either Sussex County or Milford built to encourage economic growth?
I don’t recall a Thompson Road in Milford. Are you referring to Thompsonville Road? That road previously headed east from DE 1 at an intersection before the interchange was built. When the interchange was built, a connector road was built from the interchange west to Church Hill Road.
I noticed that Thompson Road in Milford didn’t exist prior to the interchange on DE 1 opened in circa 2017. Older imagery prior to 2016 shows no former intersection at that location that the interchange replaced.
Is Thompson Road one of those development enhancements that either Sussex County or Milford built to encourage economic growth?
I don’t recall a Thompson Road in Milford. Are you referring to Thompsonville Road? That road previously headed east from DE 1 at an intersection before the interchange was built. When the interchange was built, a connector road was built from the interchange west to Church Hill Road.
Yeah that what I set out to type. Either I made an error or autocorrect changed my name. I’ll have to check GSV previous older images, but I recall seeing no intersection there.
This new interchange will be the first interchange along US 113 in the state of Delaware, save for the one at its northern terminus with DE 1. 113 used to continue up DE 1 to end at US 13 in Dover, but was truncated in 2004.
Construction should begin next year on an interchange between US 113 and DE 18/DE 404 in Georgetown. There are also plans to build an interchange at US 113 and DE 16 in Ellendale.
A Hardee's on the site of the project has closed its doors, apparently forever, without waiting for condemnation.
https://www.wrde.com/news/business-closes-due-to-georgetown-overpass-construction/article_df20650a-8d95-11ee-892a-df9af3a695bc.html
Per the article the land was acquired by the State. So the condemnation process has already taken place, the property sold and it's no longer their building.
This new interchange will be the first interchange along US 113 in the state of Delaware, save for the one at its northern terminus with DE 1. 113 used to continue up DE 1 to end at US 13 in Dover, but was truncated in 2004.
Construction should begin next year on an interchange between US 113 and DE 18/DE 404 in Georgetown. There are also plans to build an interchange at US 113 and DE 16 in Ellendale.
A Hardee's on the site of the project has closed its doors, apparently forever, without waiting for condemnation.
https://www.wrde.com/news/business-closes-due-to-georgetown-overpass-construction/article_df20650a-8d95-11ee-892a-df9af3a695bc.html
Per the article the land was acquired by the State. So the condemnation process has already taken place, the property sold and it's no longer their building.
The neighborhood Arby's is history too, now.
https://www.wboc.com/news/georgetown-faces-temporary-disruptions-as-u-s-113-improvement-project-progresses/article_298bb51a-9a19-11ee-ac5b-b7f6674ab832.html
This new interchange will be the first interchange along US 113 in the state of Delaware, save for the one at its northern terminus with DE 1. 113 used to continue up DE 1 to end at US 13 in Dover, but was truncated in 2004.
Construction should begin next year on an interchange between US 113 and DE 18/DE 404 in Georgetown. There are also plans to build an interchange at US 113 and DE 16 in Ellendale.
A Hardee's on the site of the project has closed its doors, apparently forever, without waiting for condemnation.
https://www.wrde.com/news/business-closes-due-to-georgetown-overpass-construction/article_df20650a-8d95-11ee-892a-df9af3a695bc.html
Per the article the land was acquired by the State. So the condemnation process has already taken place, the property sold and it's no longer their building.
The neighborhood Arby's is history too, now.
https://www.wboc.com/news/georgetown-faces-temporary-disruptions-as-u-s-113-improvement-project-progresses/article_298bb51a-9a19-11ee-ac5b-b7f6674ab832.html
The article talks about the Arby’s further “down” the road; it’s actually a tad north of the Hardee’s which I’d call “up” the road. Surprised the Royal Farms is closing; I assumed when it was built a few years ago (after the Ford dealer moved to a new building a few hundred feet east) that it would stay because the new plan doesn’t include any ramps in the NE corner.
How will the 113/404 project affect the shopping center in the NW corner (Walmart, Walgreens, and other merchants in that quarter)?
(For DE 896) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - I-95/Rt 896 Interchange--Upcoming Lane and Ramp Closures (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9945)
(For DE 896) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - I-95/Rt 896 Interchange--Upcoming Lane and Ramp Closures (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9945)
Glad they are redoing that interchange. I always found the 896 SB to 95 NB (which is really EB here) movement to be odd.
(For DE 896) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - I-95/Rt 896 Interchange--Upcoming Lane and Ramp Closures (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9945)
Glad they are redoing that interchange. I always found the 896 SB to 95 NB (which is really EB here) movement to be odd.
It's just a normal cloverleaf. The only odd part was the width of the ramp where the toll plaza formerly was located.
(For DE 896) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - I-95/Rt 896 Interchange--Upcoming Lane and Ramp Closures (https://www.deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9945)
Glad they are redoing that interchange. I always found the 896 SB to 95 NB (which is really EB here) movement to be odd.
(For DE 896) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - FULL I-95 CLOSURE for I-95 and Rt 896 Interchange Bridge Girder Installation (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9967&type=Traffic)
(For DE 896) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - FULL I-95 CLOSURE for I-95 and Rt 896 Interchange Bridge Girder Installation (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9967&type=Traffic)
Using the shunpike route. Definitely losing toll revenue with this detour.
And you're always free (pun) to go that way if you want.(For DE 896) TRAFFIC ALERT - New Castle County - FULL I-95 CLOSURE for I-95 and Rt 896 Interchange Bridge Girder Installation (https://deldot.gov/About/news/index.shtml?dc=release&id=9967&type=Traffic)
Using the shunpike route. Definitely losing toll revenue with this detour.
It's overnight. Low volume time period, so low loss. Just part of the cost of construction.
I don't know if this has been discussed already, but when did Delaware steal Maryland's "lane ends" signs? Just noticed it on I-95 southbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7000444,-75.6106016,3a,41.4y,245.21h,87.06t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sPIy_G8fLQIx-yfcCsN0zZg!2e0!5s20230901T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) this past weekend.
I don't know if this has been discussed already, but when did Delaware steal Maryland's "lane ends" signs? Just noticed it on I-95 southbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7000444,-75.6106016,3a,41.4y,245.21h,87.06t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sPIy_G8fLQIx-yfcCsN0zZg!2e0!5s20230901T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) this past weekend.
Probably 20+ years ago. They have them scattered around.
I don't know if this has been discussed already, but when did Delaware steal Maryland's "lane ends" signs? Just noticed it on I-95 southbound (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7000444,-75.6106016,3a,41.4y,245.21h,87.06t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sPIy_G8fLQIx-yfcCsN0zZg!2e0!5s20230901T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) this past weekend.
Probably 20+ years ago. They have them scattered around.
The only thing missing is the "Merge Left" or "Merge Right" sign underneath
Delaware "steals" things like that from neighboring states, but doesn't really have a statewide pattern with signage. (It does have too many carbon-copy signs. I feel sorry for anyone trying to follow US 202.)
On the subject of Delaware signage, DelDOT's gotten creative again with new signs at the intersection of Cave Neck Road and SR 1. The signs sort of follow the same design vein as the custom signs made for the Casho Mill Road underpass in Newark.
(https://www.capegazette.com/sites/capegazette/files/2024/02/field/image/_DSC8339.JPG)
Courtesy of Cape Gazette. (https://www.capegazette.com/article/more-improvements-route-1-cave-neck-intersection/270759)
On the subject of Delaware signage, DelDOT's gotten creative again with new signs at the intersection of Cave Neck Road and SR 1. The signs sort of follow the same design vein as the custom signs made for the Casho Mill Road underpass in Newark.
(https://www.capegazette.com/sites/capegazette/files/2024/02/field/image/_DSC8339.JPG)
Courtesy of Cape Gazette. (https://www.capegazette.com/article/more-improvements-route-1-cave-neck-intersection/270759)
DelDOT always has a sense of humor.
(Affects DE 8) K104, Kenton Road, SR8 to Chestnut Grove Road Public Meeting (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=17694)
(For DE 72) Old Baltimore Pike, Battle Drive to SR 72 Public Workshop (https://deldot.gov/About/publicevents/workshops/index.shtml?dc=workshop&id=17737)
(For DE 24) CM/GC, North Millsboro Bypass, US 113 to SR24 has been awarded (http://www.deldot.gov/public.ejs?command=PublicFinalBidtabDisplay&id=T202112701)Interchange of new bypass on US-113 underway. Surveyors flags and “this project funded by the bipartisan inflation reduction act” signs installed last week.
A crew will be installing a weather meter on the bridge.