I-74 Virginia: Just sign it already!

[HighwayMaster]

To be honest, I don't know why I-74 in Virginia isn't signed yet, even as FUTURE. Really, it's only a multiplex of I-77. Why isn't it signed yet?

[vtk]

Agreed. Though it might make slightly more sense to only sign it south of I-81. VDOT probably believes it makes most sense not to sign it north on the 74/77 split in NC.

[hbelkins]

To be honest, I don't know why I-74 in Virginia isn't signed yet, even as FUTURE. Really, it's only a multiplex of I-77. Why isn't it signed yet?

Because it would be redundant and unnecessary.

Especially considering it will never exist between Virginia and Cincinnati.

[Beltway]

To be honest, I don't know why I-74 in Virginia isn't signed yet, even as FUTURE. Really, it's only a multiplex of I-77. Why isn't it signed yet?

Because it would be redundant and unnecessary.

Especially considering it will never exist between Virginia and Cincinnati.

I agree!

I agree!

[Takumi]

To be honest, I don't know why I-74 in Virginia isn't signed yet, even as FUTURE. Really, it's only a multiplex of I-77. Why isn't it signed yet?

Because it would be redundant and unnecessary.

Especially considering it will never exist between Virginia and Cincinnati.

I agree!

I agree!

As do I. I doubt VDOT could afford such a waste of money right now anyway, even if they wanted to sign it.

[OracleUsr]

Wait, signing it concurrent with I-77 in Surry County ISN'T redundant but signing it with I-77 in VA is??

[Beltway]

To be honest, I don't know why I-74 in Virginia isn't signed yet, even as FUTURE. Really, it's only a multiplex of I-77. Why isn't it signed yet?

Because it would be redundant and unnecessary.

Especially considering it will never exist between Virginia and Cincinnati.

I agree!

I agree!

As do I. I doubt VDOT could afford such a waste of money right now anyway, even if they wanted to sign it.

The cost of the signs would be a negligible part of the budget.

I just think it would be useless to sign I-74 over I-77.

It was useless for the Tarheel State to sign several miles of I-74 over I-77, and they didn't talk to VA about it first.

[hbelkins]

Signing it from the state line to the split was, and is redundant.

Actually, I-74 in North Carolina is a stupid concept, if you ask me. This is a prime candidate for an I-4x or possibly an I-3x.

[vtk]

Signing it from the state line to the split was, and is redundant.

Actually, I-74 in North Carolina is a stupid concept, if you ask me. This is a prime candidate for an I-4x or possibly an I-3x.

If all of I-74 were built, it would make perfect sense to me as a relatively straight diagonal route.  With the big gap in the middle that's not going away anytime soon, I can understand arguments to number the new part separately, in which case I-38 makes most sense to me.  But it was and is intended to be a single route, and I'll treat it as such (similar to US 2).

[rickmastfan67]

Actually, I-74 in North Carolina is a stupid concept, if you ask me. This is a prime candidate for an I-4x or possibly an I-3x.

If anything, I-74 in NC should have been I-79.  Then you could have multiplexed I-79 with I-77 from Charleston, WV, and then the problem is solved.

[Beltway]

Signing it from the state line to the split was, and is redundant.

Actually, I-74 in North Carolina is a stupid concept, if you ask me. This is a prime candidate for an I-4x or possibly an I-3x.

It was especially stupid to overlap part of it with US-74 ... that is confusing to motorists.

[SP Cook]

Actually, I-74 in North Carolina is a stupid concept, if you ask me. This is a prime candidate for an I-4x or possibly an I-3x.

Yes.  I-74 in NC is confusing to the motorist for multiple reasons.  It really isn't an interstate.  It starts and stops.  The shortest route between one point on it and another isn't it.  And it doesn't run N-S in many areas.  And it intersects and multiplexes with US 74.  Its stupid, and 73 ads to it.

Just sign the part from 77 to 40 as a 3di (177), the part SW of Greensboro as one (840) and leave US 220 as US 220 and the soon to be completed US 311 as US 311. 

[CanesFan27]

To be honest, I don't know why I-74 in Virginia isn't signed yet, even as FUTURE. Really, it's only a multiplex of I-77. Why isn't it signed yet?

Because they read this forum and knew you wouldn't like it.

[CanesFan27]

So is the signing of I-74 in NC the new version of I-99 for folks within roadgeeking?  Does it really matter what parts are signed or not?

If TN signed I-69 through Memphis would you all be just as irked?  Afterall, I-74 is the same situation as I-69 in TN and MS.  NC got approval to sign it and decided to.  Virginia hasn't asked or has decided against it.  It really doesn't matter if they did or didn't.

[hbelkins]

So is the signing of I-74 in NC the new version of I-99 for folks within roadgeeking?  Does it really matter what parts are signed or not?

If TN signed I-69 through Memphis would you all be just as irked?  Afterall, I-74 is the same situation as I-69 in TN and MS.  NC got approval to sign it and decided to.  Virginia hasn't asked or has decided against it.  It really doesn't matter if they did or didn't.

There is going to be a continuous I-69 from Indianapolis to Memphis and beyond. Indiana's building away at a new route and Kentucky has already posted signs on the WK Parkway. (But not on I-24, from what I hear.) Therefore signing I-69 in Memphis would be logical.

The issue is that there will never be an I-74 in West Virginia, or between the Ashland/Huntington area and Cincinnati. Virginia could sign I-74 all the way from Fancy Gap up to Bluefield and then I-74 would just disappear, only to surface again north of downtown Cincinnati at an interchange with I-75.

I guess West Virginia and Ohio could always post "To I-74" signs along US 52. 

[NE2]

It's not like US 52 will be any better than the existing route through Charleston...

[CanesFan27]

There is no guarantee that I-69 is going to be a continuous route.

[vdeane]

There are plans on the books for it to be continuous between TN, KY, IN, and MI.  On the other hand, WV and OH have outright rejected their I-74 segments.

To be honest, I don't know why I-74 in Virginia isn't signed yet, even as FUTURE. Really, it's only a multiplex of I-77. Why isn't it signed yet?

You answered your own question.  It's all multiplex.  There's no point.  Multiplexes are typically the LAST areas of new interstates to be signed for that reason.  There is no point to having a multiplex if one of the routes ends in the multiplex.  Take a look at I-81 and future I-86 in Binghamton.  I-86 is designated to the east.  The future multiplex is I-81 and NY 17 only.

As posted earlier, the future I-69 and I-24 multiplex is I-24 alone as well, despite I-69 to the east.

[froggie]

There are plans on the books for it to be continuous between TN, KY, IN, and MI.

Still VERY dependent on funding.  Will it eventually happen?  Maybe.  But I have my doubts as to whether I'll see it...and this is with a route that HAS been planned and on the books, unlike I-74.

[NE2]

Just plop I-69 onto I-30 and I-40 between Texarkana and Memphis. Voila, Arkansas gap filled.

[hbelkins]

The last gap between Memphis and Indy will be the Ohio River bridge.

[Henry]

Actually, I-74 in North Carolina is a stupid concept, if you ask me. This is a prime candidate for an I-4x or possibly an I-3x.

If anything, I-74 in NC should have been I-79.  Then you could have multiplexed I-79 with I-77 from Charleston, WV, and then the problem is solved.

I had the same idea for a southern I-79 many years back! It would follow US 52 to US 220, then take I-73's routing to Myrtle Beach. Seeing that I-73 will never exist in WV, OH or MI, it would be better off as part of a southern extension of I-83. Just my two cents...

[amroad17]

Signing it from the state line to the split was, and is redundant.

Actually, I-74 in North Carolina is a stupid concept, if you ask me. This is a prime candidate for an I-4x or possibly an I-3x.

My pick would be I-34, being there aren't any odd numbers left for this predominately N-S route from Rockingham to Mt. Airy.