Virginia

[Mapmikey]

My comment about people unfamiliar with the road finding it disturbing was directed at something else, though.

Disconcerting to me because I never see this view in the daylight.  Always about 5:30 a.m. when I battle traffic through there...

If you go through there at 5:30 AM, I really hope you never encounter the precise view seen in that image.

Only in my rear view mirror at 5 p.m....

[bluecountry]

Two things about Route 28:

1.  I noticed on 28 just south of 29, there is a mile marker.  I guess they are putting them in with the construction?
2.  What is going at the Innovation area, that interchange area?

[jb_va23]

Just something neat I saw yesterday while driving around in western Albemarle County. Many public schools have entrance roads that are in the Virginia Secondary System numbered 9xxx. However, these are usually unsigned or only signed on the small white rectangle signs. However, I found this on, SR 9570 signed on an actual circle shield. Screen grab from Google Maps, because I could not get a picture, while driving.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/xVtsyuz657fVpRt68

[Rothman]

I often wonder if VA is consistent in shielding of primary routes that are only there for access to state-owned facilities and if there's rhyme or reason behind which ones get shielded and which ones don't.

I doubt there is.

[WillWeaverRVA]

Just something neat I saw yesterday while driving around in western Albemarle County. Many public schools have entrance roads that are in the Virginia Secondary System numbered 9xxx. However, these are usually unsigned or only signed on the small white rectangle signs. However, I found this on, SR 9570 signed on an actual circle shield. Screen grab from Google Maps, because I could not get a picture, while driving.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/xVtsyuz657fVpRt68

I often wonder if VA is consistent in shielding of primary routes that are only there for access to state-owned facilities and if there's rhyme or reason behind which ones get shielded and which ones don't.

I doubt there is.

Just something neat I saw yesterday while driving around in western Albemarle County. Many public schools have entrance roads that are in the Virginia Secondary System numbered 9xxx. However, these are usually unsigned or only signed on the small white rectangle signs. However, I found this on, SR 9570 signed on an actual circle shield. Screen grab from Google Maps, because I could not get a picture, while driving.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/xVtsyuz657fVpRt68

The school postings are a lot more common in some other VDOT districts. The Fredericksburg district posts them extremely well. The Richmond district hardly posts them at all.

As for state facilities...I guess it's up to the district whether it wants to post them. The problem is, I think they should all be posted - for example, the Central Virginia 511 Twitter account once reported an accident in Chesterfield County on Old Bon Air Road near VA 324. VA 324 isn't posted and most people have no idea that it's the access road to the Bon Air Juvenile Facility.

[Hunty2022]

Just something neat I saw yesterday while driving around in western Albemarle County. Many public schools have entrance roads that are in the Virginia Secondary System numbered 9xxx. However, these are usually unsigned or only signed on the small white rectangle signs. However, I found this on, SR 9570 signed on an actual circle shield. Screen grab from Google Maps, because I could not get a picture, while driving.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/xVtsyuz657fVpRt68

Here's a double one in Pittsylvania County on US 29:

[74/171FAN]

^I saw that one on US 29 back in December.

Anyway, I did find a newer rectangle for one in Prince George County back in February for the new Middle Road Elementary School.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220044924113908&set=a.10220045064317413)



The only other one I remember seeing in Prince George County is this one for the Old JEJ Moore Middle School on VA 156, which is apparently now called the Prince George Central Wellness Center.

[Mapmikey]

^I saw that one on US 29 back in December.

Anyway, I did find a newer rectangle for one in Prince George County back in February for the new Middle Road Elementary School.  (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10220044924113908&set=a.10220045064317413)


The only other one I remember seeing in Prince George County is this one for the Old JEJ Moore Middle School on VA 156, which is apparently now called the Prince George Central Wellness Center.

9001 used to be in Accomack County at this location - https://maps.app.goo.gl/XukJQAjgD9ZW3StM7

PG County posts 9332 - https://maps.app.goo.gl/w6EGQoz8ZWtzJMVR8
PG County used to post 9331 - https://maps.app.goo.gl/mnrvGWPtyHq7MVau8

[plain]

It appears you've posted the same GSV link for all 3 of them.

[Mapmikey]

It appears you've posted the same GSV link for all 3 of them.

Shazbot

copy to clipboard is apparently not working for me.  Fixed the links.

[74/171FAN]

PG County posts 9332 - https://maps.app.goo.gl/w6EGQoz8ZWtzJMVR8
PG County used to post 9331 - https://maps.app.goo.gl/mnrvGWPtyHq7MVau8

I never drove by the Rowanty Technical School hence why I did not know about 9332.

9331 would have been for Burrowsville Elementary School, which was closed along with Carson Elementary School in 2003 when PG County decided to consolidate into 5 K-5 elementary schools instead of multiple K-2 schools and 2 3-5 schools (one of the latter being the now closed Walton Elementary which was replaced by Middle Road Elementary).

[roadman65]

What year did they remove the old Slaters Lane Bridge over the CSX tracks on US 1 south of Crystal City? I can't find any Google street view that shows the original overpass over the tracks between Alexandria and Arlington .

The last time I was there was in 03 and the original bridge was still there with the left turn NB at Slaters Lane.

[davewiecking]

What year did they remove the old Slaters Lane Bridge over the CSX tracks on US 1 south of Crystal City? I can't find any Google street view that shows the original overpass over the tracks between Alexandria and Arlington .

The last time I was there was in 03 and the original bridge was still there with the left turn NB at Slaters Lane.

Historicaerials.com shows it in place in 2007 and gone in 2008.

[Mapmikey]

What year did they remove the old Slaters Lane Bridge over the CSX tracks on US 1 south of Crystal City? I can't find any Google street view that shows the original overpass over the tracks between Alexandria and Arlington .

The last time I was there was in 03 and the original bridge was still there with the left turn NB at Slaters Lane.

Historicaerials.com shows it in place in 2007 and gone in 2008.

Here's a not great GMSV view of it from US 1 NB - https://maps.app.goo.gl/hK6m8z6r4XDXBcf69
Better quality view from Monroe showing both bridges - https://maps.app.goo.gl/AwLDUzkdumwzuqpf7
poor view from US 1 SB - https://maps.app.goo.gl/CSLTKGqDBNifqyJAA
best view i can get from Slaters Ln - https://maps.app.goo.gl/qKQJDGpnpTJ9eJJQ9

[roadman65]

Is it my understanding that Y suffix routes in the commonwealth are designated for spur or branch routes connecting other highways?

[Mapmikey]

Is it my understanding that Y suffix routes in the commonwealth are designated for spur or branch routes connecting other highways?

Y routes have been used to do two things in Virginia:

1. connect two routes, usually (but not always) in a Y-intersection setup
2. short spurs of a route to a town/village

Virginia no longer designates new Y routes.  The last one was added in the 1970s.

[roadman65]

Is it my understanding that Y suffix routes in the commonwealth are designated for spur or branch routes connecting other highways?

Y routes have been used to do two things in Virginia:

1. connect two routes, usually (but not always) in a Y-intersection setup
2. short spurs of a route to a town/village

Virginia no longer designates new Y routes.  The last one was added in the 1970s.

So VA 132Y is the latter serving Colonial Williamsburg.

Defunct VA 168Y near Toano was the former.

[Mapmikey]

Is it my understanding that Y suffix routes in the commonwealth are designated for spur or branch routes connecting other highways?

Y routes have been used to do two things in Virginia:

1. connect two routes, usually (but not always) in a Y-intersection setup
2. short spurs of a route to a town/village

Virginia no longer designates new Y routes.  The last one was added in the 1970s.

So VA 132Y is the latter serving Colonial Williamsburg.

Defunct VA 168Y near Toano was the former.

VA 132Y is tricky because the Colonial Pkwy is technically VA 90003.  VA 205Y to Colonial Beach is a truer example.

[WillWeaverRVA]

Is it my understanding that Y suffix routes in the commonwealth are designated for spur or branch routes connecting other highways?

Y routes have been used to do two things in Virginia:

1. connect two routes, usually (but not always) in a Y-intersection setup
2. short spurs of a route to a town/village

Virginia no longer designates new Y routes.  The last one was added in the 1970s.

So VA 132Y is the latter serving Colonial Williamsburg.

Defunct VA 168Y near Toano was the former.

And then you have odd cases like VA 165Y, which serves a water treatment plant in Norfolk and isn't even publicly drivable. It connected to US 13 before I-64 was built, but now has no reason to exist.

VA 300Y in Powhatan is the same way, it's only 211 feet long and doesn't connect to anything (and never has).

[Dirt Roads]

Is it my understanding that Y suffix routes in the commonwealth are designated for spur or branch routes connecting other highways?

Y routes have been used to do two things in Virginia:

1. connect two routes, usually (but not always) in a Y-intersection setup
2. short spurs of a route to a town/village

Virginia no longer designates new Y routes.  The last one was added in the 1970s.

We railroaders prefer to spell it as "wye-intersection".   

[1995hoo]

Is it my understanding that Y suffix routes in the commonwealth are designated for spur or branch routes connecting other highways?

Only you would be able to tell us what your understanding is (or was). Whether that understanding is right or wrong is a separate matter.

[roadman65]

Is it my understanding that Y suffix routes in the commonwealth are designated for spur or branch routes connecting other highways?

Only you would be able to tell us what your understanding is (or was). Whether that understanding is right or wrong is a separate matter.

Well I was curious to the true nature of the short Y routes. I assumed they were connectors and verifying my assumption.

If what Mapmikey said, VA 162 could be VA 143Y (if those were still being used) being it's a spur now that the city decommissioned the rest of that route.  It connects to a historical city now instead of entering it.

No every state has its own way of doing things, other than knowing that 600 or higher are reserved for state secondary routes ( exception VA 895). I was curious to know that method of the Y on short routes.