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Started by US71, January 20, 2009, 10:21:33 PM

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pianocello

There's a temporary VMS (the ones IDOT uses for construction) on I-80 leading to the I-57 interchange informing drivers that the ramp from 57 to 294 is open. I wonder if that will ever become permanent signage in the future?


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Stephane Dumas

One guy had posted a video on Youtube going southbound on I-294 to I-57 south
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY907J-aAbQ


Stratuscaster

Odd that the BGS doesn't read "I-57 SOUTH".

And I don't think the white "I-PASS or PAY ONLINE" panel needs to be that big. Makes the signs needlessly tall.

NE2

Quote from: Stratuscaster on November 05, 2014, 04:14:36 PM
Odd that the BGS doesn't read "I-57 SOUTH".
I suppose you can get to I-57 north by U-turning at US 6. But it's probably a cockup, since the mileage sign at 0:16 does say south.
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Quote from: Stratuscaster on November 05, 2014, 04:14:36 PM
Odd that the BGS doesn't read "I-57 SOUTH".

And I don't think the white "I-PASS or PAY ONLINE" panel needs to be that big. Makes the signs needlessly tall.

It's intended to be a ramp for both I-57 north and south eventually.
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CtrlAltDel

I drove the North 57 to North 294 ramp last night (at midnight because I was bored), and I was surprised at how long it takes to merge onto 294. I may be estimating wrong, but there was a lot of distance traveling parallel to 294 before you got to the toll cameras, and then another fairly long bit until you merged. I'm not sure what engineering went into that decision.

Past that, I had the road all to myself, and I thought the ramp was nice and smooth. There's nothing quite like driving on a brand new road.
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Brandon

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on November 07, 2014, 01:29:04 PM
I drove the North 57 to North 294 ramp last night (at midnight because I was bored), and I was surprised at how long it takes to merge onto 294. I may be estimating wrong, but there was a lot of distance traveling parallel to 294 before you got to the toll cameras, and then another fairly long bit until you merged. I'm not sure what engineering went into that decision.

Past that, I had the road all to myself, and I thought the ramp was nice and smooth. There's nothing quite like driving on a brand new road.

There will be a ramp from I-57 south joining that ramp in the future.  Both will use the same toll plaza.  The other part is just ISTHA's MO with merges.  They're longer in case the freeway being merged into is widened, and for a greater distance to get up to speed.
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Stephane Dumas

I saw one more video, filmed at nightime, on the flyover-ramp from I-57 Northbound to I-294.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcCjqPdO-vc

SteveG1988

Quote from: Brandon on November 07, 2014, 04:57:37 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on November 07, 2014, 01:29:04 PM
I drove the North 57 to North 294 ramp last night (at midnight because I was bored), and I was surprised at how long it takes to merge onto 294. I may be estimating wrong, but there was a lot of distance traveling parallel to 294 before you got to the toll cameras, and then another fairly long bit until you merged. I'm not sure what engineering went into that decision.

Past that, I had the road all to myself, and I thought the ramp was nice and smooth. There's nothing quite like driving on a brand new road.

There will be a ramp from I-57 south joining that ramp in the future.  Both will use the same toll plaza.  The other part is just ISTHA's MO with merges.  They're longer in case the freeway being merged into is widened, and for a greater distance to get up to speed.

That is nice for trucks as well, as it allows us to get onto the road with a bit more speed and/or slow down to merge properly.
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I-90

The Illinois Department of Transportation in partnership with the Illinois Tollway is planning to construct a $600 million improvement involving Interstate 57, Interstate 294 and Illinois Route 83 (147th Street). The improvement will consist of constructing a full interchange with ramps between Interstate 57 and Interstate 294, improvements to 147th Street including a median to accommodate left turn lanes between Kedzie Avenue and Western Avenue/Dixie Highway, and construction of a partial interchange with ramps between Interstate 294 at 147th Street. Interstate 57 at Interstate 294 is one of two locations in the country where two Interstates meet without connecting. The completed Interstate 57/294 Interchange Project will connect these important Interstate highways as well as reduce travel times and congestion on local routes that are being used to facilitate the Interstate to Interstate linkage. It is anticipated the construction project will consist of up to 11 contracts to be implemented over a number of years.




Looks like now: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.618156,-87.6924232,15z/data=!3m1!1e3

dvferyance

Quote from: I-90 on May 14, 2017, 11:21:14 AM
The Illinois Department of Transportation in partnership with the Illinois Tollway is planning to construct a $600 million improvement involving Interstate 57, Interstate 294 and Illinois Route 83 (147th Street). The improvement will consist of constructing a full interchange with ramps between Interstate 57 and Interstate 294, improvements to 147th Street including a median to accommodate left turn lanes between Kedzie Avenue and Western Avenue/Dixie Highway, and construction of a partial interchange with ramps between Interstate 294 at 147th Street. Interstate 57 at Interstate 294 is one of two locations in the country where two Interstates meet without connecting. The completed Interstate 57/294 Interchange Project will connect these important Interstate highways as well as reduce travel times and congestion on local routes that are being used to facilitate the Interstate to Interstate linkage. It is anticipated the construction project will consist of up to 11 contracts to be implemented over a number of years.




Looks like now: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.618156,-87.6924232,15z/data=!3m1!1e3
I am assuming your point is that it dosen't look like what was planned in the picture.

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ilpt4u

I love bumping a 5 year old thread...but news, as reported by the Chicago Tribune and The Daily Southtown https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/daily-southtown/ct-sta-tristate-tollway-interstate-57-ramps-st-0908-20220907-c5tn3amp2reozcuotx72netrka-story.html
Quote from: Chicago Tribune

It was called "the interchange that time forgot"  and a rarity in the nation's transportation system, with two interstates crossing over each other but not connecting.

But sometime this weekend, the final phase linking Interstate 57 with Interstate 294, better known as the Tri-State Tollway, will open to traffic, capping a yearslong project that was completed ahead of schedule and could also spur new economic development in communities near the interchange.

The first ramps opened in October 2014, allowing drivers heading north on I-57 to continue north on the Tri-State, and for southbound Tri-State vehicles to access I-57 heading south.

Also completed were ramps from the southbound Tri-State to 147th Street, and from 147th to the Tri-State's northbound lanes.

Four new ramps will open overnight on Saturday leading into early Sunday, and will allow vehicles traveling south on I-57 to access I-294 either northbound or southbound, and Tri-State traffic heading north or south to jump onto northbound I-57, according to the Illinois Toll Highway Authority.

Like the existing ramps, electronic tolling will be in place, with vehicles using I-Pass or E-ZPass transponders being charged 75 cents, and a fee of $1.50 for vehicles paying unpaid tolls online within 14 days.
Looks like the interchange will open fully this weekend!


edwaleni

I still remember my dad cursing at the fact that he couldn't get on I-294 from I-57 back in 1974.

"Whoever made the decision to engineer it like this should be shot" he said back then.

Well dad, they finally fixed it. Sorry you didn't live long enough to see it. (or drive it).

mvak36

Is there a plan to build the last two ramps at some point in the near future? Or are they not needed right away?
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CtrlAltDel

If I'm not mistaken, there are two movements missing:
     I-294 N to I-57 S
     I-57 N to I-294 S



Understandable I guess, given I-80 just to the south, but I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed all the same, especially since the I-57 N to I-294 S would be a right turn ramp.
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NWI_Irish96

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 08, 2022, 09:14:05 AM
If I'm not mistaken, there are two movements missing:
     I-294 N to I-57 S
     I-57 N to I-294 S



Understandable I guess, given I-80 just to the south, but I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed all the same, especially since the I-57 N to I-294 S would be a right turn ramp.

Why spend the money to build something that's completely unnecessary. There's literally no path of travel that ramp makes easier/faster.
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CtrlAltDel

Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on September 08, 2022, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 08, 2022, 09:14:05 AM
If I'm not mistaken, there are two movements missing:
     I-294 N to I-57 S
     I-57 N to I-294 S



Understandable I guess, given I-80 just to the south, but I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed all the same, especially since the I-57 N to I-294 S would be a right turn ramp.

Why spend the money to build something that's completely unnecessary. There's literally no path of travel that ramp makes easier/faster.

Well, sure, that's why I think it's understandable.

Nevertheless, I am a bit fan of the interchange standards for interstates, in particular:
Quote from:  Interstate Standards 2016, page 6
Each interchange shall provide for all traffic movements.
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ilpt4u

Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on September 08, 2022, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 08, 2022, 09:14:05 AM
If I'm not mistaken, there are two movements missing:
     I-294 N to I-57 S
     I-57 N to I-294 S



Understandable I guess, given I-80 just to the south, but I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed all the same, especially since the I-57 N to I-294 S would be a right turn ramp.

Why spend the money to build something that's completely unnecessary. There's literally no path of travel that ramp makes easier/faster.
Redundancy would be the most legitimate reason

If some major incident has 80 closed between 57 and 294, the missing movements would be very useful

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: ilpt4u on September 08, 2022, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on September 08, 2022, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 08, 2022, 09:14:05 AM
If I'm not mistaken, there are two movements missing:
     I-294 N to I-57 S
     I-57 N to I-294 S



Understandable I guess, given I-80 just to the south, but I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed all the same, especially since the I-57 N to I-294 S would be a right turn ramp.

Why spend the money to build something that's completely unnecessary. There's literally no path of travel that ramp makes easier/faster.
Redundancy would be the most legitimate reason

If some major incident has 80 closed between 57 and 294, the missing movements would be very useful

Both routes have interchanges with 159th/US 6, so there's your redundancy without spending a dime. Not worth millions to cut 2 minutes off that time.
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ilpt4u

Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on September 08, 2022, 02:27:16 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on September 08, 2022, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on September 08, 2022, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 08, 2022, 09:14:05 AM
If I'm not mistaken, there are two movements missing:
     I-294 N to I-57 S
     I-57 N to I-294 S



Understandable I guess, given I-80 just to the south, but I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed all the same, especially since the I-57 N to I-294 S would be a right turn ramp.

Why spend the money to build something that's completely unnecessary. There's literally no path of travel that ramp makes easier/faster.
Redundancy would be the most legitimate reason

If some major incident has 80 closed between 57 and 294, the missing movements would be very useful

Both routes have interchanges with 159th/US 6, so there's your redundancy without spending a dime. Not worth millions to cut 2 minutes off that time.
159th St/US 6 was the argument against building any interchange between the two to begin with!

I used 159th St multiple times to make the 57/294 connection before the interchange was built

Joe The Dragon

Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on September 08, 2022, 02:27:16 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on September 08, 2022, 02:25:06 PM
Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on September 08, 2022, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 08, 2022, 09:14:05 AM
If I'm not mistaken, there are two movements missing:
     I-294 N to I-57 S
     I-57 N to I-294 S



Understandable I guess, given I-80 just to the south, but I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed all the same, especially since the I-57 N to I-294 S would be a right turn ramp.

Why spend the money to build something that's completely unnecessary. There's literally no path of travel that ramp makes easier/faster.
Redundancy would be the most legitimate reason

If some major incident has 80 closed between 57 and 294, the missing movements would be very useful

Both routes have interchanges with 159th/US 6, so there's your redundancy without spending a dime. Not worth millions to cut 2 minutes off that time.

Breezewood is that way and building an direct link will remove millions from local funds.

davewiecking

Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on September 08, 2022, 09:47:33 AM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on September 08, 2022, 09:14:05 AM
If I'm not mistaken, there are two movements missing:
     I-294 N to I-57 S
     I-57 N to I-294 S



Understandable I guess, given I-80 just to the south, but I have to admit I'm a bit disappointed all the same, especially since the I-57 N to I-294 S would be a right turn ramp.

Why spend the money to build something that's completely unnecessary. There's literally no path of travel that ramp makes easier/faster.

I agree that anyone making those movements will have already passed a point where those could be made more efficiently. However, I just poked around on Street View, and don't see any signs on the westbound tollway prior to the 80/294 split that direct you to any part of I-57. Admittedly I didn't "drive"  everywhere, or check all past images. Are there any such signs I missed?



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