What states are the best or worst for finding old state-named interstate shields still in the wild? Go...
It might be helpful first to list all the states that still post new state name shields, so we don't have to think about them.
Exceedingly rare in Michigan. I don't think I've seen any outside of Detroit (a treasure trove of old signs), except for backroads in the Upper Peninsula, in over 10 years. Definitely none in Grand Rapids or Lansing. Maybe there's old I-94, I-69, or even I-196 shields I don't know about somewhere...
EDIT: This topic (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=6390.0) may be useful in figuring it out.
Louisiana has recently added state names back to some interstate shields, at least in central LA for some I-49 interchanges. As far as old ones? Good luck. New Orleans may have the last of those.
Quote from: doofy103 on May 06, 2014, 09:02:15 PM
What states are the best or worst for finding old state-named interstate shields still in the wild? Go...
State-named Interstate shields are quite common in California due to the fact that we're still using the 1957-spec shields. There are a few neutered shields here and there but the vast majority are state-named. IIRC, we're one of the few states that does not use the current Interstate shield spec in the SHSM (I believe Iowa is another state using the older spec).
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmarkyville.com%2Faaroads%2F57-vs-70_IntShield.png&hash=6ea759da4c905f7ace7b968af61651c332b468b9)
Note: California also uses an oddly shaped "angular" Interstate shield. They're limited to 1-2 digit routes and they primarily appear as reassurance markers. Freeway Entrance assemblies still use the proper shield.
Oklahoma, Kansas and Missouri still post state name shields, although neutered shields are also found in all three states.
Until very recently, Arkansas was still using the 1957 spec with state name. As of the I-540 to I-49 redesignation, they are using 1970-spec neutered shields with oversized numbers.
States that use the state name:
Alabama
Arizona
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Georgia (though neutered shields are used quite often too on the mainlines)
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky (newer installs have appeared in the eastern half of the state)
Louisiana (thanks to Jeff)
Maine
Mississippi
Missouri
Nevada
New Jersey
New Mexico
North Dakota
Oklahoma
South Carolina
Texas (thanks to Jeff)
Utah (recently started using them again)
West Virginia
Wyoming
States that do not use the state name:
Arkansas (as of very recently)
D.C.
Delaware
Florida
Hawaii (a few state name installs exist in urban Honolulu)
Idaho
Indiana
Illinois
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Montana
Nebraska
New Hampshire
New York
North Carolina
Ohio
Oregon
Pennsylvania
South Dakota
Tennessee
Vermont (old state named shields remain in towns)
Virginia
Washington
Wisconsin
The worst for finding state named shields in the wild are Oregon (just the one or two Jake has cited), Tennessee (none are known to exist, unless you count the recent STATE find of formulanone's), Massachusetts (maybe 3 or 4 left?), New Hampshire (save for the one assembly in Concord (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=NH19610893) and city installs in Manchester (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=NH19790932)), and Ohio (just a handful remain statewide, one in Columbus a few in Lockland). Trailing those are New York (fairly rare), Maryland (Baltimore mostly), Delaware (four left in Wilmington), Indiana (sparingly), Wisconsin (scattered statewide), Idaho (a couple of local installs (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=ID19790845) in Boise), Florida (only newer contractor based installs (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=FL19790105) can be found).
Vermont's towns used to be a treasure trove of old signs. I have not been back there in far too long, so others can attest to what is remaining. The Interstate mainlines used to have 1957 spec based shields, but resigning to Clearview included the replacement of all those. Baltimore used to have several, but those numbers have dwindled over the years.
Indianapolis still has a good number of state-named shields, including a replacement of this one to the exact same specs (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=IN19724651).
Detroit has a lot of city-installed signs with state-named shields. Livonia too, though the rebuilding of I-96 through there may kill those. There are two others outside of Detroit, one for I-275 (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=MI19792751) and another for I-496 (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=MI19724961) in Lansing.
Chicago has a few original state-named shields (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=IL19610944) in use, and a few newer state named installs (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=IL19790803) on the Illinois Tollway system. Outside of Chicago or the toll roads, forget about it.
Urban areas in Seattle still retain signs (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=WA19610051) for I-5 and I-90 with WASHINGTON in them, but generally the rest of the state is neutered.
In 2005, there were only a few signs (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=NE19790802) for I-80 with Nebraska in them observed across the state. I-129, I-480 and I-680 were all neutered.
South Dakota was all neutered as well from what I saw along I-29, and in Sioux Falls, with the exception of one interchange for I-229 (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=SD19792293).
North Carolina, one was still posted for I-95 southbound (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=NC19790951), and maybe one or two for I-40 along the mainline. Everything else is neutered across the state.
Pennsylvania, still a few here and there across the state, mostly the 1970 spec based shields.
Quote from: Alex on May 07, 2014, 07:11:18 AM
South Dakota was all neutered as well from what I saw along I-29, and in Sioux Falls, with the exception of one interchange for I-229 (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=SD19792293).
There's still a lot of state-name shields West River. I'm not entirely sure if SDDOT has a policy for this (I suspect they don't really care), though.
Only Kentucky interstate for which I have not seen a state-named shield is I-24.
Quote from: Alex on May 07, 2014, 07:11:18 AM
Detroit has a lot of city-installed signs with state-named shields. Livonia too, though the rebuilding of I-96 through there may kill those. There are two others outside of Detroit, one for I-275 (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=MI19792751) and another for I-496 (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=MI19724961) in Lansing.
Whoops, and I said there's none in Lansing. :banghead: We visited that one at the Lansing 2008 meet!
There's more than 2 outside of Detroit. There's a ton of state-name I-75 shields in Sault Ste. Marie if you know where to look (mostly directing traffic leaving the casino), as well as 3-4 on Mackinac Trail (old US 2). Here's one of them, along with a cutout M!
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t31.0-8/1669789_10151881628376363_142904215_o.jpg)
Quote from: Alex on May 07, 2014, 07:11:18 AM
In 2005, there were only a few signs (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=NE19790802) for I-80 with Nebraska in them observed across the state. I-129, I-480 and I-680 were all neutered.
On the interstates themselves, there are none, but I have seen one I-80 Nebraska shield on 26th St. in Omaha, of all places. This is the street immediately west of the Kennedy Freeway (US 75). There are also 2 I-480 Nebraska shields, one eastbound on Leavenworth and one westbound on St. Marys. I've also seen Nebraska I-80 shields between Grand Island and Kearney. Don't know about west of Kearney. I suspect roads which lead to I-80 west of Lincoln may have some Nebraska I-80 shields, but OTOH, those are NDOR link roads, so maybe they put up a new shield at some point.
he rogue state named shields in Eagle, ID are gone as of December 2012- I'm nearly certain there are no state named shields left in Idaho.
If somebody knows of others in the Boise area beyond the ones on Eagle Rd and Overland Rd, which are gone now, I'll be down there this weekend and happy to check.
Quote from: Alex on May 07, 2014, 07:11:18 AM
Pennsylvania, still a few here and there across the state, mostly the 1970 spec based shields.
I-579 use to be the last remaining Interstate in PA that had it's entire route posted with State Named shields. However, with all the new BGS's installed, every last mainline state named shield bit the dust. Only good thing that came out of that was that we now have a Southern 'END' shield that we didn't have before. We once had a Northern 'END' shield, but it disappeared ages ago, and has never been replaced, even though the 'END' banner (http://goo.gl/maps/nr7bo) still remains. Only one state named I-579 remains, and it's the one shown in the Shield Gallery, unless there's one hidden somewhere else that I don't know about.
I-279 state named shields are easier to find if you know where to look, but, none are posted along the mainline itself, but there are less of them because of I-376 taking over part of it's route a few years ago.
As for I-79, only one state named shield on the mainline comes to mind at this time, and it's on the Neville Island Bridge. In fact, I think the 'SOUTH' banner that it has is original to when the bridge opened. Too bad the shield isn't, but still, a state named on the mainline in PA is a rare sight nowadays. http://goo.gl/maps/Oqcc7
When did LA go back to using state shields? I drove the entire length of I-10, I-20 and I-55 in Louisiana in January of 2013 and did not see a single one.
Quote from: Alex on May 07, 2014, 07:11:18 AM
States that use the state name:
Louisiana (thanks to Jeff)
I only saw one in Louisiana for I-10, and it wasn't on the mainline.
I have seen a lot more popping up in Florida recently.
Quote from: DevalDragon on May 10, 2014, 02:01:48 PM
When did LA go back to using state shields? I drove the entire length of I-10, I-20 and I-55 in Louisiana in January of 2013 and did not see a single one.
Quote from: Alex on May 07, 2014, 07:11:18 AM
States that use the state name:
Louisiana (thanks to Jeff)
I-49 in central LA uses the state named shields. We also use green and white 1958-spec state shields, just because they've held up so well.
We also apparently sign every frontage road along I-49 in Natchitoches Parish as a parish highway, with shields and all.
Nexus 7
I simply can't stand neutered Interstate shields. I understand why various states are making Interstate shields like this: making the numerals bigger and hopefully easier to read.
Unfortunately the folks pushing for neutered Interstate shields haven't thought through the process well enough. There is more to legibility than simply making a character larger. Legibility isn't necessarily improved if letters are being enlarged on the same size sign panel. Enlarged characters need more white space around them and between them to make any actual improvement in legibility. If the characters are cramped within the sign panel and cramped in terms of spacing then actual legibility may actually be decreased.
Let's also not leave out the very obvious fact enlarged numerals on neutered shields don't line up worth a damn on the panel. When set in Series Gothic D and set at the usual, too damned big, neutered shield numeral size it's very difficult or just plain impossible to make certain numeral combinations appear centered on the panel. If having a taller numeral is so freaking important to these guys they might as well set the two digit numerals in Series C Gothic instead.
:rolleyes:
While the original 1957 spec of Interstate highway shields seem a whole lot more balanced, the numerals are pretty small. Neutered shields with overly large numerals are going to the other extreme, a very ugly, unprofessional looking extreme. I don't know how many people work in the FHWA, but it would seem like at least one or two people there knew how to arrive at an attractive, happy medium with these signs.
Anyway, I got on this rant because I've seen some neutered I-44 signs popping up in my area of Oklahoma. Normally ODOT is pretty good about putting up state named shields. But lately new, neutered I-44 markers have been getting installed and they don't look so good.
Quote from: Alex on May 07, 2014, 07:11:18 AM
The worst for finding state named shields in the wild...Ohio (just a handful remain statewide, one in Columbus a few in Lockland). <snip>
This is probably the only one around the Toledo area, as far as I know. Trying to remember if it survived the new signage being put up in the area.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.669199,-83.567378,3a,20.4y,219.8h,106.18t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sXbkNHVgYalUyOPYNeqBLNA!2e0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.669199,-83.567378,3a,20.4y,219.8h,106.18t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sXbkNHVgYalUyOPYNeqBLNA!2e0)
EDIT: It is gone, falling victim to the new signage that was recently added to the area. Long live the state named shield that was.
Quote from: countysigns on May 16, 2014, 06:37:29 PM
Quote from: Alex on May 07, 2014, 07:11:18 AM
The worst for finding state named shields in the wild...Ohio (just a handful remain statewide, one in Columbus a few in Lockland). <snip>
This is probably the only one around the Toledo area, as far as I know. Trying to remember if it survived the new signage being put up in the area.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.669199,-83.567378,3a,20.4y,219.8h,106.18t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sXbkNHVgYalUyOPYNeqBLNA!2e0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.669199,-83.567378,3a,20.4y,219.8h,106.18t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sXbkNHVgYalUyOPYNeqBLNA!2e0)
Damn that's a neat old sign. If it's still there I need to go see it!
Fixed quote. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4000.0) - rmf67
Rhode Island, whose signing standards in general are terrible, is a mixed bag of state-named and neutered shields. Most new installs are neutered but occasionally a new state-name will show up, usually for I-295 shields. Only 2 or 3 original state-name I-95 ones exist, in the urban areas of Providence/Pawtucket, and I don't know of any remaining state named I-195 shields.
Alaska was missing on that list (Are there any Interstates in Alaska)?
Quote from: countysigns on May 16, 2014, 06:37:29 PMThis is probably the only one around the Toledo area, as far as I know. Trying to remember if it survived the new signage being put up in the area.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.669199,-83.567378,3a,20.4y,219.8h,106.18t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sXbkNHVgYalUyOPYNeqBLNA!2e0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.669199,-83.567378,3a,20.4y,219.8h,106.18t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sXbkNHVgYalUyOPYNeqBLNA!2e0)
What's even more interesting about that particular BGS is that it sports
both state-named and neutered I-75 shields that
appear to be of the same vintage (based on the level of fade).
Nope. Interstates are reserved for the lower 49 states.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on May 20, 2014, 05:57:39 PM
Alaska was missing on that list (Are there any Interstates in Alaska)?
Quote from: DevalDragon on May 23, 2014, 02:26:25 AM
Nope. Interstates are reserved for the lower 49 states.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on May 20, 2014, 05:57:39 PM
Alaska was missing on that list (Are there any Interstates in Alaska)?
Alaska does have Interstates, but they are just hidden. Same thing happens in Puerto Rico.
that Toledo find is awesome! I had no idea that was around.
as for which states are hardest to find 57/61 spec? apart from what Alex mentioned:
Arizona: two in Yuma, recent installs made to California spec.
Colorado: none that I know of; an I-25 pair in Trinidad is recently gone. Colo stopped '57 spec in 1971 so ...
Florida has two: a 95 in Miami, and a 275 in Tampa. a 4 is recently gone.
Georgia: as far as I know, only two or three business loop shields.
Idaho: hasn't used '57 spec since ~1963. I've never seen one.
Kentucky: one left in Covington. ask Tim where it bips.
Louisiana: there was one left in New Orleans as of 2010 - Katrina got rid of about six or seven.
Maine: two left - one 95 just barely over the NH line on one of the US-1 bannered routes; and one seemingly random brand new 295 that's even 18x18.
Minnesota: one 35 left in Geneva. the mainline one in Duluth is gone.
Missouri: the 229s in St. Joseph are long gone; those are the only ones I knew of that survived past the early 2000s. there is one triple shield (44/55/70) in St. Louis that's on a 57 spec template, but has no state name.
Nebraska: one 80 left. a 480 is recently gone.
Nevada: about 3 or 4 float around Sparks.
North Carolina: went with larger numbers in the mid-60s and thus I don't know of any.
North Dakota: one in Beach was not quite '57 spec ('70 spec thin white margins) and that's the closest I've ever seen.
Pennsylvania: they invented '70 spec in 1965, and therefore there's only three that I know of. a 76-276 pair in King of Prussia, and an 83 on an abandoned bridge in Harrisburg.
Rhode Island: I don't know of any offhand.
South Dakota: I believe there is only a business loop shield left in Spearfish.
Texas: two 610s in Houston and a 45 near the airport that's airport-made.
Utah: the 70 at Fish Lake is gone. all new installs are newer spec.
Wisconsin: one 90 left on 53 southbound.
Quote from: Bobby5280 on May 16, 2014, 04:34:36 PM
While the original 1957 spec of Interstate highway shields seem a whole lot more balanced, the numerals are pretty small. Neutered shields with overly large numerals are going to the other extreme, a very ugly, unprofessional looking extreme. I don't know how many people work in the FHWA, but it would seem like at least one or two people there knew how to arrive at an attractive, happy medium with these signs.
I actually do like the '61 spec neutered. it's the 70 spec that's garish.
wide margin, balanced number.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/MN/MN19610351i1.jpg)
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 23, 2014, 09:29:51 AMPennsylvania: they invented '70 spec in 1965, and therefore there's only three that I know of. a 76-276 pair in King of Prussia, and an 83 on an abandoned bridge in Harrisburg.
There's still a few late 80/early 90s-vintage state-named I-95 shields sprinked here and there in the Keystone State,
most of which are
not along I-95 itself.
Here's one near where I live that was erected during the early-90s. Pardon the crummy GSV shot. (http://goo.gl/maps/tF1z8)
Another
pale blue example of similar vintage. Again, pardon the crummy GSV. (http://goo.gl/maps/RpJHO)
One state-named I-95 shield
survivor from the 70s (w/custom PennDOT font) that's still along I-95 South. (http://goo.gl/maps/YdVXy)
Quote from: myosh_tino on May 07, 2014, 02:01:44 AM
Quote from: doofy103 on May 06, 2014, 09:02:15 PM
What states are the best or worst for finding old state-named interstate shields still in the wild? Go...
State-named Interstate shields are quite common in California due to the fact that we're still using the 1957-spec shields. There are a few neutered shields here and there but the vast majority are state-named. IIRC, we're one of the few states that does not use the current Interstate shield spec in the SHSM (I believe Iowa is another state using the older spec).
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmarkyville.com%2Faaroads%2F57-vs-70_IntShield.png&hash=6ea759da4c905f7ace7b968af61651c332b468b9)
Note: California also uses an oddly shaped "angular" Interstate shield. They're limited to 1-2 digit routes and they primarily appear as reassurance markers. Freeway Entrance assemblies still use the proper shield.
California use the 1957 edition for Entrances and Resassurance. Interstates are neutered in BGS control cities signs in California.
Quote from: bing101 on May 23, 2014, 11:57:57 AM
California use the 1957 edition for Entrances and Resassurance. Interstates are neutered in BGS control cities signs in California.
To take it a step further, Caltrans has two different specs for each type of shield (Interstate, US and Calif state route). The "Route Marker" spec is for independent-mount shields like those for reassurance and freeway entrance assemblies. The "Route Shield" spec is for guide sign shields.
This I-15 shield Jake posted in another thread is still there as of an hour ago, so I take back my comment that Idaho has no state named shields left. I did take the time to drive both directions of the Pocatello loop tonight and a couple of the side streets (like Center) that could reasonably have an interstate shield and didn't see any others
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/ID/ID19790152i2.jpg)
Saw a current Michigan I-96 float across my FB feed earlier today.
The lone I-85 Virginia shield (paired on a unisign with an I-95 Virginia shield) was still up as of last week. No date code anywhere on it. I don't know of any state-name Virginia shields still up on mainlines (the last state-name I-95s from the portion built in the early 1980s in Prince George and Sussex were all removed from the mainline by 2013) but there are still many on surface roads. I know of many I-95s, between Richmond, the one in Petersburg, some in Sussex County, and some newer installations south of Fredericksburg. I've also seen them for I-64, I-264, and I-195.
Look, I like state-named Interstate highway shields.
But states have gotten rid of them (IMO) above all - to save money - and I realize it's just a few dollars in labor and materials per sign.
Consider that most (all?) states got rid of their U.S. state named-shields long ago. Those are at least as nice as the state-named Interstate shields.
Quote from: Takumi on May 25, 2014, 07:47:21 AM
The lone I-85 Virginia shield (paired on a unisign with an I-95 Virginia shield) was still up as of last week. No date code anywhere on it. I don't know of any state-name Virginia shields still up on mainlines (the last state-name I-95s from the portion built in the early 1980s in Prince George and Sussex were all removed from the mainline by 2013) but there are still many on surface roads. I know of many I-95s, between Richmond, the one in Petersburg, some in Sussex County, and some newer installations south of Fredericksburg. I've also seen them for I-64, I-264, and I-195.
There are definitely state-named I-66 shields remaining in the Marshall area, including one on 66 itself (as of Aug 2013 anyway - https://maps.google.com/maps?q=marshall,+va&hl=en&ll=38.857589,-77.861609&spn=0.030912,0.066047&sll=40.815108,-77.998209&sspn=0.059827,0.132093&hnear=Marshall,+Fauquier+County,+Virginia&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=38.857584,-77.861487&panoid=tiNBw-MfYiZRYSnawRxKhQ&cbp=12,347.17,,0,0)
I-581 has state-named shields though likely not on the mainline.
There is one I-495 state named shield on the beltway itself - inner loop between GW Pkwy and the American Legion Bridge.
Mapmikey
Quote from: cpzilliacus on May 25, 2014, 11:21:13 AM
Look, I like state-named Interstate highway shields.
But states have gotten rid of them (IMO) above all - to save money - and I realize it's just a few dollars in labor and materials per sign.
Consider that most (all?) states got rid of their U.S. state named-shields long ago. Those are at least as nice as the state-named Interstate shields.
It has nothing to do with cost, as long as signs are being done at the state sign shop. It costs just as much to print one state name shield as it does one neutered shield. The only cost difference would be for signs made in bulk by an interstate sign contractor. Besides, any economy of scale would be elimitanted by the differing route numbers.
Rather, removing the state name frees up space for larger digits. The state name was a political maneuver to get people in areas with strong state's rights sentiments to accept the US, and later Interstate, systems. Arguably this need no longer exists.
Quote from: corco on May 24, 2014, 12:10:53 AM
This I-15 shield Jake posted in another thread is still there as of an hour ago, so I take back my comment that Idaho has no state named shields left. I did take the time to drive both directions of the Pocatello loop tonight and a couple of the side streets (like Center) that could reasonably have an interstate shield and didn't see any others
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/ID/ID19790152i2.jpg)
Thats a California style entrance shield. But I noticed city made signs for interstates tend to neuter state name in some parts of California due to city specs and I don't think counties and cities enforce MUTCD guidelines that caltrans and the state dots do.
Is there a site or anything that has a history and/or images of Interstate Shield Specs? I'd like to compare side to side.
The oldest shield in the state.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3886/15034571621_a6bb140245_z.jpg)
Quote from: doofy103 on May 27, 2014, 10:58:52 PM
The oldest shield in the state.
I think there's a Conn 138 that's older. barely.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/CT/CT19561381i1.jpg)
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 29, 2014, 02:47:24 PM
Quote from: doofy103 on May 27, 2014, 10:58:52 PM
The oldest shield in the state.
I think there's a Conn 138 that's older. barely.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/CT/CT19561381i1.jpg)
That doesnt exist any longer to my knowledge...my last road trip up to New England in 2011 before all my illnesses clobbered me, i seem to recall that 138 was gone.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 23, 2014, 09:29:51 AM
Wisconsin: one 90 left on 53 southbound.
An I-94 state-named shield still remains (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.069233,-88.554685,3a,75y,3.88h,86.56t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sm7wBOMlsY8zmjlB2F8PWdg!2e0). It's faded and doesn't follow the current WI standard "everything on black" so it's remnants. Willow Glen Road off the highway so not state maintained. (Dec 2012) It's certainly not a '57 spec.
Quote from: doofy103 on May 27, 2014, 10:58:52 PM
Is there a site or anything that has a history and/or images of Interstate Shield Specs? I'd like to compare side to side.
The oldest shield in the state.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3786/14093241218_e4386c5a7e.jpg)
That picture could also be a good nominee for the next "Not My Job" contest (brand new shiny 'TO" marker atop ancient faded route shield and arrow).
Shouldn't the "TO" sign be blue?
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That picture could also be a good nominee for the next "Not My Job" contest (brand new shiny 'TO" marker atop ancient faded route shield and arrow).
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Very early interstate trailblazer signs often used white arrow signs instead of blue. I remember most of them as white when I was a kid, which would had been the 1960's. I don't think blue became mandatory for the arrow signs until at least the late 1960's. This sign is obviously very old.
I stand corrected, the arrow sign is actually blue in the picture, not white, but the TO sign is white. However, I do remember seeing white arrow signs with interstate shields.
Quote from: RoadWarrior56 on June 23, 2014, 07:36:33 PM
Very early interstate trailblazer signs often used white arrow signs instead of blue. I remember most of them as white when I was a kid, which would had been the 1960's. I don't think blue became mandatory for the arrow signs until at least the late 1960's. This sign is obviously very old.
An original I-10 assembly (date stamped from 1972) was one such assembly:
(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/alabama999/claiborne_st_i-010_shield.jpg)
One still standing from the 1960s still has the white TO banner (there are four in total in Wilmington all with white TO banners):
(https://www.aaroads.com/delaware/delaware010/de-048_eb_app_de-002_wb_01.jpg)
Quote from: countysigns on May 16, 2014, 06:37:29 PM
Quote from: Alex on May 07, 2014, 07:11:18 AM
The worst for finding state named shields in the wild...Ohio (just a handful remain statewide, one in Columbus a few in Lockland). <snip>
This is probably the only one around the Toledo area, as far as I know. Trying to remember if it survived the new signage being put up in the area.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.669199,-83.567378,3a,20.4y,219.8h,106.18t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sXbkNHVgYalUyOPYNeqBLNA!2e0 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.669199,-83.567378,3a,20.4y,219.8h,106.18t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sXbkNHVgYalUyOPYNeqBLNA!2e0)
Did they finally yank that old I-280 shield coming off the turnpike @ Exit 71?
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 23, 2014, 09:29:51 AM
Kentucky: one left in Covington. ask Tim where it bips.
If it's the one I'm thinking of, it's at Fourth and Philadelphia streets in downtown Covington. I think it's in the first photo on this page of Tim's site (taken in 2010, and I believe the sign is still there). Assuming that's it, I'll go check in the next few days whether it is still there.
http://www.angelfire.com/yt2/lastword/roadpics/moremorecov10.html
Quote from: thenetwork on June 23, 2014, 11:18:16 PM
Did they finally yank that old I-280 shield coming off the turnpike @ Exit 71?
According to Street View, it looks like it is toast. Have to check it out next time I get to that part of Wood County.
I think this I-91 shield is 1950s because the shield is wider and narrower top to bottom.
Is there a site or anything that has a history and/or images of Interstate Shield Specs? I'd like to compare side to side.
The oldest shield in the state.
I think this I-91 shield is 1950s because the shield is wider and narrower top to bottom.
unlike this one, which the shape is more "normal" and current.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5073/14093229759_2896423b61.jpg)
BTW:
I think CT used white "TO"s in the 1960s to 1970s. Of course that's only a guess.
What remains in New York is concentrated in certain parts of the state. There are certainly more, but here's what I have seen personally:
I-81: A few on the mainline north of Syracuse. Likely more.
I-87: Do not know of any on the mainline. There are quite a few on local roads surrounding the interstate. Many near Albany, probably a few in The Bronx.
I-88: Seen a few along the route, probably quite a few more
I-90: One on US 20 in Silver Creek at Exit 58. Were quite a few in Albany a while ago, many of which are likely gone due to Exit 2 reconstruction.
I-95: Were quite a few
As for the 3dis:
I-490 had some on the mainline. I-390 and 490 have quite a few off the road. There is/was an I-787 shield on the Collar City Bridge in Troy, along with a few in Albany.
Quote from: countysigns on June 26, 2014, 07:28:26 AM
Quote from: thenetwork on June 23, 2014, 11:18:16 PM
Did they finally yank that old I-280 shield coming off the turnpike @ Exit 71?
According to Street View, it looks like it is toast. Have to check it out next time I get to that part of Wood County.
I could not find it in 2006.
Found a New York-named shield along the LIE a few weeks ago...it's not the nicest example, though.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.staticflickr.com%2F3836%2F14673454095_febae4dc60_o.jpg&hash=a75bd18d3be254e50198d9921023d035b18f2aa8)
Quote from: doofy103 on July 16, 2014, 08:41:40 PM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5073/14093229759_2896423b61.jpg)
I like that fallout shelter sign beneath it!
Here are some for I-565 here in Huntsville, AL:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3851/14673493135_fc920c3863.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/omDuhX)
I-565 sheild (https://flic.kr/p/omDuhX) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3870/14670296961_43e9643b43.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/omn7bv)
I-565 sheild (https://flic.kr/p/omn7bv) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
I have more on my external hard drive somewhere, so I'll have to find them. These were the ones I knew about off of the top of my head. I'll also probably have my drivers license soon, so I should be able to go and get some more pictures.
Quote from: cl94 on July 16, 2014, 09:30:43 PM
What remains in New York is concentrated in certain parts of the state. There are certainly more, but here's what I have seen personally:
I-81: A few on the mainline north of Syracuse. Likely more.
I-87: Do not know of any on the mainline. There are quite a few on local roads surrounding the interstate. Many near Albany, probably a few in The Bronx.
I-88: Seen a few along the route, probably quite a few more
I-90: One on US 20 in Silver Creek at Exit 58. Were quite a few in Albany a while ago, many of which are likely gone due to Exit 2 reconstruction.
I-95: Were quite a few
As for the 3dis:
I-490 had some on the mainline. I-390 and 490 have quite a few off the road. There is/was an I-787 shield on the Collar City Bridge in Troy, along with a few in Albany.
Speaking of...are the 1950s-60s spec I-95 state-named shields still around on Broadway US-9 and 179th St?
Quote from: cl94 on July 16, 2014, 09:30:43 PM
I-90: One on US 20 in Silver Creek at Exit 58.
Looks like that one bit the dust per StreetView. :( I remember it being the 'JCT' shield going WB on US-20/NY-5. Per StreetView, it was gone no later than 08/2013.
Here's another I-565 one in Huntsville. This one's along AL 255, IIRC.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2920/14673547962_2d1f159e37.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/omDLAf)
I-565 sheild (https://flic.kr/p/omDLAf) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on July 16, 2014, 10:48:27 PM
Quote from: cl94 on July 16, 2014, 09:30:43 PM
I-90: One on US 20 in Silver Creek at Exit 58.
Looks like that one bit the dust per StreetView. :( I remember it being the 'JCT' shield going WB on US-20/NY-5. Per StreetView, it was gone no later than 08/2013.
Eastbound was still there a month ago. Right in front of Burger King. May be last one in Region 5.
And here's an I-65 shield with the state name on it in Huntsville, AL. This is on Governors Drive.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5566/14673666812_891204fe05.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/omEnVo)
I-65 Sheild (https://flic.kr/p/omEnVo) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
I don't think I have anymore pictures of state-name interstate shields.
Quote from: cl94 on July 16, 2014, 11:35:34 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on July 16, 2014, 10:48:27 PM
Quote from: cl94 on July 16, 2014, 09:30:43 PM
I-90: One on US 20 in Silver Creek at Exit 58.
Looks like that one bit the dust per StreetView. :( I remember it being the 'JCT' shield going WB on US-20/NY-5. Per StreetView, it was gone no later than 08/2013.
Eastbound was still there a month ago. Right in front of Burger King. May be last one in Region 5.
That would explain why I didn't remember that one. Rarely was I ever going EB on that segment of highway on that side of the I-90 interchange.
There's a state-named I-684 southbound. Saw it last year and got a photo.
Quote from: hbelkins on July 17, 2014, 12:45:04 PM
There's a state-named I-684 southbound. Saw it last year and got a photo.
There are a few of those around and they're disappearing quickly. Downstate has a ton. I *think* every signed downstate interstate has one somewhere, I just don't know the exact locations.
The thread on the general forum: any regional state named interstate shield around?
Someone alluded to alot downstate in NY.
I remember some old I-95 shields by 179th and Broadway.
There's an I-678 by Home Depot in the Bronx.
Do you mean something like this in Portland, ME on July 17th? This was close to the Concord Coach bus terminal.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FospRsp8.jpg&hash=316d971e78df7498fa866270328478b43ebd4889)
NJ is posting new state name shields, so you'll see plenty around here.
In Rhode Island, at the reconstructed George St. bridge and on/off ramp for Exit 27 (before the reconstructed Pawtucket River Bridge), there are some brand-new **rare** Rhode Island state-named shields for I-95. Clearly this was a contractor decision as RIDOT does not usually fabricate state-named shields.
Quote from: KEVIN_224 on July 18, 2014, 11:07:12 PM
Do you mean something like this in Portland, ME on July 17th? This was close to the Concord Coach bus terminal.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FospRsp8.jpg&hash=316d971e78df7498fa866270328478b43ebd4889)
Yes, or like this...
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7423/10786376553_c11c8aa703.jpg)
Quote from: southshore720 on July 19, 2014, 09:48:19 AM
In Rhode Island, at the reconstructed George St. bridge and on/off ramp for Exit 27 (before the reconstructed Pawtucket River Bridge), there are some brand-new **rare** Rhode Island state-named shields for I-95. Clearly this was a contractor decision as RIDOT does not usually fabricate state-named shields.
Can you get photos of these by any chance?
Just drove I-10 from New Orleans to Biloxi the other day. In LA, did not see one state Interstate shield for 10, 510, 610, 12, or 59. But in Mississippi, every I-10 and I-110 sign was a state sign, including on the BGS's.
One of the Lexington TV stations went to Detroit to do a story on the Detroit-to-Kentucky heroin connection that is linked to a crime outbreak in Lexington this summer. They showed a state-named I-75 Michigan sign. Not sure where it was located. I will look at the story online and see if I can get a screen shot of it.
Got a screen shot and left most of the background in, just in case anyone recognizes the location:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.millenniumhwy.net%2Floose_pics%2FMichigan_I-75.jpg&hash=169f6a118bb66472dd3bd8ada48bf0963ceac9b2)
Frank Gillon photo, 2007
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/MI/MI19790752i1.jpg)
that said, I don't know where it is either.
http://goo.gl/maps/nAvao
Mapmikey
Sadly, I don't think I've seen any state named shields in NC along I-77, I-85 or I-40. I did see some SC shields on I-95 and I-26 coming back from HHI last week...
Quote from: Rainking75 on July 24, 2014, 09:52:42 PM
Sadly, I don't think I've seen any state named shields in NC along I-77, I-85 or I-40. I did see some SC shields on I-95 and I-26 coming back from HHI last week...
When i was in North Carolina a few years back, i saw ONE state-named I-shield....that was an I-40 in the middle of a construction zone, so it is likely a goner by now
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F07%2F25%2Fvu7ujatu.jpg&hash=1615d9f39651f4be3d699166c87498e2e91a4f96)
Probably the only one in the state.
iPhone
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2Fd%2F14%2F07%2F25%2Fysadupyd.jpg&hash=bca46c505c8364a84b74671e374d425ad5ce0672)
Old Virginia shield
iPhone
Quote from: Arkansastravelguy on July 25, 2014, 09:17:24 AM
Probably the only one in the state.
iPhone
That would be the lone survivor. The others are gone, with the last one we knew about being this former trailblazer at I-240:
(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/north_carolina026/i-026_eb_exit_027_06.jpg)
Quote from: Mapmikey on July 24, 2014, 09:31:13 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/nAvao
Mapmikey
Makes sense that it's on Gratiot, since a street sign for that street was also shown in the news report. Sounds like the reporter and videographer got lucky in finding a state-named sign to illustrate the story.
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.01458,-114.230249,3a,15y,71.36h,83.25t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sWeNLvIOxKqm6SlrCRJDSZw!2e0
A scattered few state-named I-90 shields remain. This one is still standing in Frenchtown, and it's aged quite a bit. It's been out since at least 1985.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7423/10786376553_c11c8aa703.jpg)
Sadly this sign is now gone. Drove by it's awful replacement today.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 21, 2014, 11:44:38 AM
Just drove I-10 from New Orleans to Biloxi the other day. In LA, did not see one state Interstate shield for 10, 510, 610, 12, or 59. But in Mississippi, every I-10 and I-110 sign was a state sign, including on the BGS's.
A few weeks ago, I saw state named I-12 signs at the Robert exit (47) as you approached the I-12 on ramps coming south from Robert.
One day I will own a digital camera and take pics of these thing I find during my travels, and actually post such sightings instead of just describe them. :pan:
Quote from: cjk374 on July 27, 2014, 10:57:59 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on July 21, 2014, 11:44:38 AM
Just drove I-10 from New Orleans to Biloxi the other day. In LA, did not see one state Interstate shield for 10, 510, 610, 12, or 59. But in Mississippi, every I-10 and I-110 sign was a state sign, including on the BGS's.
A few weeks ago, I saw state named I-12 signs at the Robert exit (47) as you approached the I-12 on ramps coming south from Robert.
One day I will own a digital camera and take pics of these thing I find during my travels, and actually post such sightings instead of just describe them. :pan:
$100-$150 can get you a pretty good P&S camera. Perfect for when you need to take quick shots.
I have a duplicate little Canon I may be interested in selling. Lost it, bought a replacement, and then found the one I'd lost.
Found this on Flickr. It's in Albany, NY:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3860/14761475434_b76d944167.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tracksidegorilla/14761475434/)
Old Interstate Sign - Albany NY (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tracksidegorilla/14761475434/) by Trackside Gorilla (https://www.flickr.com/people/tracksidegorilla/), on Flickr
Here are a few more around Huntsville:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5580/14610811177_5f37433185.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/og7e8x)
I-565 (https://flic.kr/p/og7e8x) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5564/14774330416_6c272bda46.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ovyiGL)
I-565 (https://flic.kr/p/ovyiGL) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3871/14610666779_6eb7583174.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/og6ucV)
I-565 (https://flic.kr/p/og6ucV) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3897/14797322605_80f9894483.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oxA9tP)
I-565 (https://flic.kr/p/oxA9tP) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5558/14794212281_868dac93f0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oxjcTx)
I-565, US 231, US 431 (https://flic.kr/p/oxjcTx) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2910/14796974792_94611a3dae.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oxyn63)
I-565 (https://flic.kr/p/oxyn63) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5557/14774330166_b89de753b5.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ovyiCs)
I-65 (https://flic.kr/p/ovyiCs) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5571/14794212171_8e416fa03f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oxjcRD)
I-65 (https://flic.kr/p/oxjcRD) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
thoughts on this state-named shield? New 2014 shield in the Bronx.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3884/14837145440_36a5826548.jpg)
Quote from: doofy103 on August 25, 2014, 09:48:11 PM
thoughts on this state-named shield? New 2014 shield in the Bronx.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3884/14837145440_36a5826548.jpg)
Looks like a NYCDOT install. They haven't posted new state name shields since before I-990 was completed. Shocked they didn't try and make it Clearview.
Yes, it's definitely NYC DOT maintained. Side street in Bronx.
Anybody know the exact differences between '57, '61 and '70 spec shields?
Quote from: doofy103 on August 25, 2014, 09:58:04 PM
Yes, it's definitely NYC DOT maintained. Side street in Bronx.
Anybody know the exact differences between '57, '61 and '70 spec shields?
I know '57 were always state-named, '61 I believe could be neutered and had larger numerals, but I forget what was changed in the '70 spec. Looking through the older versions of the MUTCD - I can't spot any major differences.
A recent install (http://goo.gl/maps/Zp3Zl) along US 1 in Philadelphia. IMHO, the 76 numerals need to be a tad shorter and more spread apart.
Quote from: doofy103 on August 25, 2014, 09:58:04 PM
Yes, it's definitely NYC DOT maintained. Side street in Bronx.
Anybody know the exact differences between '57, '61 and '70 spec shields?
yep.
1957 spec had wide white margins, a tall crown, and small numbers. state name in use for independent mount; no state name on green signs.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/NE/NE19610802i1.jpg)
1961 spec added wide shields: 21x18, 30x25 (not 28x24 for whatever reason!), 45x36. for guide signs, the crown was made a bit shorter and the numbers enlarged. wide white margins retained on all.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/CA/CA19724053i1.jpg)
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/ID/ID19830901i1.jpg)
(Idaho, for whatever reason, used '61 spec neutered for their surface-level applications well into the 70s.)
1970 spec was a complete redesign. larger numbers. shorter crown, thinner margins. state name optional. I'm not including any pictures of this spec; we all know what they look like.
that New York I-95 seems to be a strange mix of '57 and '61. large numbers, somewhat short crown (between '57 and '61 neutered size) ... state name.
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 28, 2014, 01:49:48 PM
Found this on Flickr. It's in Albany, NY:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3860/14761475434_b76d944167.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tracksidegorilla/14761475434/)
Old Interstate Sign - Albany NY (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tracksidegorilla/14761475434/) by Trackside Gorilla (https://www.flickr.com/people/tracksidegorilla/), on Flickr
this is a '61 spec blank with oversize numbers. a lot of states did that when they switched to '70 spec and needed to use up the old blanks: just slap larger numbers on them, even though the fit is a bit tighter.
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/NC/NC19790853i1.jpg)
Quote from: PHLBOS on August 26, 2014, 10:09:58 AM
A recent install (http://goo.gl/maps/Zp3Zl) along US 1 in Philadelphia. IMHO, the 76 numerals need to be a tad shorter and more spread apart.
more spread apart is sufficient. they are the correct height for '70 spec.
while it's good to see a new state-named shield; the implication is that this gantry is gone:
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/PA/PA19700761i1.jpg)
(those are '61 spec btw)
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 26, 2014, 10:18:07 AM
Quote from: PHLBOS on August 26, 2014, 10:09:58 AM
A recent install (http://goo.gl/maps/Zp3Zl) along US 1 in Philadelphia. IMHO, the 76 numerals need to be a tad shorter and more spread apart.
more spread apart is sufficient. they are the correct height for '70 spec.
If the numerals on that shield are indeed the correct height for the '70 spec. and everything else is correct spec-wise, then the state name shouldn't have been included.
In contrast, many newer BGS installments containing neutered I-shields (mostly 2dis & not just in PA) have smaller numerals to allow for the state name to be placed above if one wanted to.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on August 26, 2014, 10:18:07 AMwhile it's good to see a new state-named shield; the implication is that this gantry is gone:
(//www.aaroads.com/shields/img/PA/PA19700761i1.jpg)
(those are '61 spec btw)
Look a tad closer to the GSV link, the gantry itself didn't change; only the BGS'. The previous BGS' and gantry are likely from the either the late 60s or early 70s.
On Yesler Way in Seattle, right in front of the Smith Tower:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7264/14027410745_3157faf888_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nny9vp)
Older-styled I-5/I-90 guide sign in Seattle (https://flic.kr/p/nny9vp) by SounderBruce (https://www.flickr.com/people/70175722@N04/), on Flickr
A couple I saw on my recent cross-country trip in states that are not currently doing this:
IN 63 NB at I-74: http://goo.gl/maps/wmhV4
I-80 EB after Exit 291 near Shelton NE : http://goo.gl/maps/wmhV4
Mapmikey
Quote from: Mapmikey on October 08, 2014, 08:45:40 PM
A couple I saw on my recent cross-country trip in states that are not currently doing this:
IN 63 NB at I-74: http://goo.gl/maps/wmhV4
I-80 EB after Exit 291 near Shelton NE : http://goo.gl/maps/wmhV4
Mapmikey
Both lead to the I-74 example.
Quote from: Darkchylde on October 09, 2014, 11:06:33 PM
Quote from: Mapmikey on October 08, 2014, 08:45:40 PM
A couple I saw on my recent cross-country trip in states that are not currently doing this:
IN 63 NB at I-74: http://goo.gl/maps/wmhV4
I-80 EB after Exit 291 near Shelton NE : http://goo.gl/maps/wmhV4
Mapmikey
Both lead to the I-74 example.
My apologies...
The Nebraska example:
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Kearney,+NE&hl=en&ll=40.722543,-98.736362&spn=0.00026,0.264187&sll=40.120619,-87.451856&sspn=0.419006,1.056747&oq=kearney+ne&t=h&hnear=Kearney,+Buffalo+County,+Nebraska&z=13&layer=c&cbll=40.722561,-98.736569&panoid=d2kQYO3d76KD6izOBE7afg&cbp=12,118.48,,0,0
Mapmikey
Quote from: doofy103 on August 25, 2014, 09:48:11 PM
thoughts on this state-named shield? New 2014 shield in the Bronx.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3884/14837145440_36a5826548.jpg)
It always bugs me when I see sign crews overlap sign panels on installs to save a bit of time and/or hardware.
Quote from: Mapmikey on October 10, 2014, 11:02:41 AM
The Nebraska example:
a mainline one; very nice. did not remember any surviving. then again, I have not driven I-80 in Nebraska in a very long time. usually I try to take US-30 as much as possible. there are still plenty of '70 spec shields as trailblazers from what I recall. I was there in Dec 2013 and spotted a few in Kimball, as I was taking MSR-71 northbound.
Maryland:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8616/16618485472_a5426bdd9a_c.jpg)
Passed a state-named I-66 shield (Virginia, obviously) just east of the Capital Beltway earlier this afternoon. Street View image: http://goo.gl/maps/2Bsvx
I wouldn't be surprised if it were an original sign from when the road opened in December 1982. The white sign to the right in the Street View image is, of course, much newer.
New replacements here in Louisiana have the state name on them. There are a couple on the entrance ramps to I-110 in downtown Baton Rouge.
Quote from: Mapmikey on October 08, 2014, 08:45:40 PM
A couple I saw on my recent cross-country trip in states that are not currently doing this:
IN 63 NB at I-74: http://goo.gl/maps/wmhV4
I-80 EB after Exit 291 near Shelton NE : http://goo.gl/maps/wmhV4
Mapmikey
Saw that one for Interstate 74 in 2011. Jeff R. photographed it with detail at www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=IN19790744
Happy to report that the lone state-named I-95 southbound mainline shield (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=NC19790951) in North Carolina was still posted as of Sunday.
QuotePassed a state-named I-66 shield (Virginia, obviously)
Is the "state named" I-66 DC shield near the Kennedy Center gone now?
Posted elsewhere, but fits the topic.....
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi166.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu102%2Fctsignguy%2FOdd%2520Sign%2520Stuff%2F2e19606e-6b3f-4ccf-ad43-c07ac66b0741_zps1e8ec560.jpg&hash=fc5ad86733f30a6df74fe2ceddaa7512ae0e571d)
Quote from: froggie on October 16, 2014, 06:27:58 PM
QuotePassed a state-named I-66 shield (Virginia, obviously)
Is the "state named" I-66 DC shield near the Kennedy Center gone now?
Don't know. I haven't driven past there on I-66 recently, just Rock Creek Parkway and Virginia Avenue.
I said "obviously" because of my reference to "just east of the Capital Beltway."
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 16, 2014, 09:01:23 PM
Quote from: froggie on October 16, 2014, 06:27:58 PM
QuotePassed a state-named I-66 shield (Virginia, obviously)
Is the "state named" I-66 DC shield near the Kennedy Center gone now?
Don't know. I haven't driven past there on I-66 recently, just Rock Creek Parkway and Virginia Avenue.
I said "obviously" because of my reference to "just east of the Capital Beltway."
If you're referring to this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9007335,-77.0560161,3a,34.3y,73.38h,83.69t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1st5f9JOuGxrm5RzF7BdmRpA!2e0), it is (as of June, at least).
Edit: Added date
Quote from: cl94 on October 16, 2014, 09:29:07 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 16, 2014, 09:01:23 PM
Quote from: froggie on October 16, 2014, 06:27:58 PM
QuotePassed a state-named I-66 shield (Virginia, obviously)
Is the "state named" I-66 DC shield near the Kennedy Center gone now?
Don't know. I haven't driven past there on I-66 recently, just Rock Creek Parkway and Virginia Avenue.
I said "obviously" because of my reference to "just east of the Capital Beltway."
If you're referring to this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9007335,-77.0560161,3a,34.3y,73.38h,83.69t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1st5f9JOuGxrm5RzF7BdmRpA!2e0), it is (as of June, at least).
Edit: Added date
That is the lone remaining one I could find on GSV for I-66 in DC as well.
There's at least one other remaining. This one (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ajfroggie/14935781033/) still exists as of the same GMSV run, right around the corner on Virginia Ave NW. Unfortunately, that same newer GMSV run shows that this one (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ajfroggie/15556107865/) has been replaced (still existed in 2012).
There was also a standalone trailblazer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ajfroggie/15369957608/) at 23rd and Constitution NW, but it got replaced by a neutered shield.
But the one I was thinking of before (which I know I got a photo of, but I can't find the photo) was a reassurance shield near the Kennedy Center. It was after the exit to E Street but before the TR bridge, right atop the barrier between the lane and the adjacent bike/ped path. GMSV does not show it existing anymore.
I haven't noticed that first one because when I drive through that area, I'm always going in the other direction up Virginia Avenue. If I'm down there early enough sometime en route to a Caps game, I'll try to see whether it's still there, but it'll be a few weeks due to the schedule.
Was the final one you reference on the portion of I-66 before or after the ramp from the Kennedy Center merges in on the right? I use that ramp from time to time when I pick up Ms1995hoo at her office because it's faster to go that way (her office fronts on New Hampshire Avenue across from the Saudi Arabian embassy) instead of going back around and through the tunnel, so I probably have a dashcam video of the ramp somewhere I can review for a shield if it'd be visible going that way.
Edited to add: OK, never mind. I went back through some deleted videos and found I used I-66 through the tunnel on the morning of September 12 after dropping my wife at her office when I wanted to head to Tysons. (I'd thought I could make a left onto Rock Creek Parkway and use Memorial Bridge, but the gates weren't open yet.) The video shows the sign "cl94" mentions is still there. It shows no shields anywhere between where I-66 branches to the left just after the ancient sign bridge and where Route 50 joins from the left. There is a little green sign on the right on the bridge bearing a shield with no "state" (or district) name (Street View: http://goo.gl/maps/JfGRX ).
At least you documented both of those removed shields before their replacement.
Quote from: froggie on October 17, 2014, 10:10:03 AM
There's at least one other remaining. This one (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ajfroggie/14935781033/) still exists as of the same GMSV run, right around the corner on Virginia Ave NW. Unfortunately, that same newer GMSV run shows that this one (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ajfroggie/15556107865/) has been replaced (still existed in 2012).
I noted the replacement of the median-placed shield for I-66 DC and U.S. 50 on GSV as well. Had planned to check out the nearby one on my recent trip, but ran out of time/daylight.
Quote from: froggie on October 17, 2014, 10:10:03 AM
There was also a standalone trailblazer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ajfroggie/15369957608/) at 23rd and Constitution NW, but it got replaced by a neutered shield.
But the one I was thinking of before (which I know I got a photo of, but I can't find the photo) was a reassurance shield near the Kennedy Center. It was after the exit to E Street but before the TR bridge, right atop the barrier between the lane and the adjacent bike/ped path. GMSV does not show it existing anymore.
Were you referring to this mainline shield (it was posted on the curve from the E Street Expwy on-ramp and merge with the TR Bridge)? It was removed by 2007 per GSV:
(https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/dc001/i-066_wb_exit_000_06.jpg)
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/127322363@N08/15556672885/
Here is a picture of one off I-75 in Georgia near Ringgold. Sorry for the insanely bad quality (you still might be able to make out the "GEORGIA" text, but it's blurry). I was on a bus ride back from Fall Retreat which was in Dayton, TN.
Quote from: adventurernumber1 on October 17, 2014, 11:15:59 AM
Here is a picture of one off I-75 in Georgia near Ringgold. Sorry for the insanely bad quality (you still might be able to make out the "GEORGIA" text, but it's blurry). I was on a bus ride back from Fall Retreat which was in Dayton, TN.
FWIW, state-named shields are not difficult to find in Georgia, though some areas use more neutered shields then others.
I did not photograph them (I was traveling in the opposite direction), but there are state-named trailblazers for I-10 on US 301 north ahead of Baldwin and I-95 along FL A1A/200 heading east in Nassau County. That area of Florida tends to have the most state-named shields installed on the state road system.
Alex: yes, that's the one I was referring to. Finally found my photo from 2002.
FYI, in Arizona, standalone shields have the state name, while shields on BGS are neutered.
Quote from: Pink Jazz on October 18, 2014, 11:57:57 PM
FYI, in Arizona, standalone shields have the state name, while shields on BGS are neutered.
That is often the case. Connecticut and Maine do the same and I'm pretty sure they still include the state name. Heck, California neuters everything on BGSes and they put the state (or country) name on everything.
Quote from: cl94 on October 19, 2014, 12:31:58 AM
Quote from: Pink Jazz on October 18, 2014, 11:57:57 PM
FYI, in Arizona, standalone shields have the state name, while shields on BGS are neutered.
That is often the case. Connecticut and Maine do the same and I'm pretty sure they still include the state name. Heck, California neuters everything on BGSes and they put the state (or country) name on everything.
Looks like Connecticut is in the process of joining the neutered ranks....saw a lot of fairly new neutered I-95 shields around New Haven and east on US 1 during my trip there a couple of weeks back.
Coming back from last night's Caps game, we found the BGS on southbound I-395 in DC just after you emerge from the Third Street Tunnel has been replaced as part of the overall signage replacement program. It formerly had a "state"-named–maybe "state"-initialed would be a better way to put it–I-295 shield with "D.C." where the state name goes. (Image of old sign: https://www.aaroads.com/mid-atlantic/dc095/i-395_sb_exit_007_01.jpg ) The new sign has a neutered I-695 shield on the left, then "TO [neutered I-295] [DC-295]," consistent with the other new signs on nearby segments. No pictures, I was driving my wife's car and the dashcam was at home in mine.
There's a mess of construction on Massachusetts Avenue near the ramp to the southbound tunnel that's going to result in a bunch of sign replacement, too.
Quote from: froggie on October 17, 2014, 10:10:03 AM
There's at least one other remaining. This one (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ajfroggie/14935781033/) still exists as of the same GMSV run, right around the corner on Virginia Ave NW. ....
I passed this sign last night en route to the Caps' "meet the team" event at the National Zoo. The sign is still there as seen in this photo. I don't have a picture because the dashcam image will be too dark and I didn't have time to pull over to take a regular photo, but it looks the same as what's shown above.
This is still there in Albany...an original
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7568/15528682520_ef859cd245_z.jpg)
Quote from: doofy103 on November 06, 2014, 06:15:40 PM
This is still there in Albany...an original
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7568/15528682520_ef859cd245_z.jpg)
I think all of these qualify for "Best of..." :clap:
This gem near Albany (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8087468,-73.7571049,3a,47.4y,258.02h,74.66t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sL8e95ya-z_81l-d56kliaQ!2e0) may still exist (at least I hope it does). One of the few New York examples of a regulation Interstate shield NOT being mounted on Z-bars. This lesser-known sign (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8098043,-73.7520706,3a,48y,34.26h,78.75t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1srbbak8sAEPtAMbbc82RXJw!2e0) isn't too far away. And this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8062628,-73.752341,3a,48.7y,86.25h,69.36t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s6JQ4rX7H6gvxWISDHGMyRA!2e0). I'm trying to figure out what warranted all of these signs, but they're so far out of the way that they might not go anywhere anytime soon.
WOW cl94 good finds.
I drove down I-684 today in Westchester, NY and this gem is still there, the last of it's kind.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7651/16906205056_a300490ea7_c.jpg)
I don't think there are any I-684 and I-84 NY state named shields left.
Quote from: doofy103 on November 09, 2014, 06:16:21 PM
I don't think there are any I-684 and I-84 NY state named shields left.
There aren't many state-name shields actually on an Interstate, period. I-81 had a couple north of Syracuse, there were a couple on I-490, and at least one on I-390. Might be a couple in NYC or LI. Heck, there aren't many state-name shields on NYSDOT roads.
There was an New York I-84 shield on NY 311 southbound at 84 some time ago but I do not know if it is still there or not.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4743401,-73.6476425,3a,15y,290.1h,90.68t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sT03MZq0JwbMbc-BSx7GLCg!2e0
Here is the link on GSV for NY 311 at I-84
I found another Wisconsin one, an I-43 shield (https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.518583,-88.017215&spn=0.003316,0.005284&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=44.518607,-88.017339&panoid=-ceJ1mNIMuzV6icoV1KSuQ&cbp=12,330.01,,2,-4.77) on US 141 in Green Bay. It's still standing as of today.
I saw several non-cutout state-name shields around Hampton Roads the other day. Here's an I-64 on a black square on VA 172 northbound at VA 171 in Poquoson:
http://goo.gl/maps/MjX44
There are several state-name white squares for I-264 on eastbound VA 337 in Portsmouth (these two are at Elmhurst Lane):
http://goo.gl/maps/LMHxv
Found a couple in Vermont. I haven't seen many of them there.
http://goo.gl/maps/Vk6eM
http://goo.gl/maps/n0zmF
Quote from: SignGeek101 on January 03, 2015, 09:54:49 PM
Found a couple in Vermont. I haven't seen many of them there.
http://goo.gl/maps/Vk6eM
http://goo.gl/maps/n0zmF
My how things change. When I last visited Vermont in 2007 and 2000, there were state-named shields aplenty. But in the 2007 visit, I saw the replacement shields going in on I-91 ... and they all lacked the state name. The guide signs were also being replaced at that time, with roughly the southern half of I-91 with new, reflective signs and the northern half of I-91 with older, non-reflective guide signs.
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 16, 2014, 11:24:45 PM
Here's another I-565 one in Huntsville. This one's along AL 255, IIRC.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2920/14673547962_2d1f159e37.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/omDLAf)
I-565 sheild (https://flic.kr/p/omDLAf) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
I was just in Alabama on a business trip and did quite a bit of driving through the state and it appears that Alabama is a state where the vast majority of Interstate shields have the state name on them. Even new ones. Very nice to see, by the way.
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on January 04, 2015, 11:50:38 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 16, 2014, 11:24:45 PM
Here's another I-565 one in Huntsville. This one's along AL 255, IIRC.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2920/14673547962_2d1f159e37.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/omDLAf)
I-565 sheild (https://flic.kr/p/omDLAf) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
I was just in Alabama on a business trip and did quite a bit of driving through the state and it appears that Alabama is a state where the vast majority of Interstate shields have the state name on them. Even new ones. Very nice to see, by the way.
It is nice. I only know of one I-565 shield in Alabama (it's also the only one in my area) that is neutered.
EDIT: I found another neutered I-565 shield over in/near Madison a few days ago.
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 04, 2015, 10:30:29 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on January 04, 2015, 11:50:38 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 16, 2014, 11:24:45 PM
Here's another I-565 one in Huntsville. This one's along AL 255, IIRC.
[pic snipped]
I was just in Alabama on a business trip and did quite a bit of driving through the state and it appears that Alabama is a state where the vast majority of Interstate shields have the state name on them. Even new ones. Very nice to see, by the way.
It is nice. I only know of one I-565 shield in Alabama (it's also the only one in my area) that is neutered.
Can you send some of those up north? We in New York would love to have some more, as NYSDOT has a thing for replacing anything more than 10 years old
Quote from: cl94 on January 04, 2015, 10:32:52 PM
Can you send some of those up north? We in New York would love to have some more, as NYSDOT has a thing for replacing anything more than 10 years old
You can just ask your neighbors to the south too. ;-) Most of New Jersey's Interstate shields are state-named, and new installations generally contain the state name as well.
Along Astoria Blvd (which is signed as I-278 Truck since that section shares pavement with the GCP, and thus doesn't allow trucks) there are quite a few shields of I-278 with New York in them...
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Astoria+Blvd&hl=en&ll=40.769264,-73.909106&spn=0.004566,0.01266&sll=40.769271,-73.909168&sspn=0.002283,0.00633&hnear=Astoria+Blvd,+New+York&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=40.769271,-73.909168&panoid=tlg_SsVRDRQ2ufxn6wat1A&cbp=12,310.96,,2,-1.6
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 04, 2015, 10:30:29 PM
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on January 04, 2015, 11:50:38 AM
I was just in Alabama on a business trip and did quite a bit of driving through the state and it appears that Alabama is a state where the vast majority of Interstate shields have the state name on them. Even new ones. Very nice to see, by the way.
It is nice. I only know of one I-565 shield in Alabama (it's also the only one in my area) that is neutered.
Likely a contractor based shield, but a new neutered I-10 shield popped up in Mobile during the most recent six-laning project of the freeway:
(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/alabama010/i-010_eb_exit_020_02.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/alabama010/i-010_eb_exit_020_02.jpg)
It used to be a hunt to locate all of the non-state named shields in Lower Alabama. One still stands along I-65 northbound from the early 2000s, when it was thought ALDOT was going all-neutered. Not many of them posted otherwise.
(https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/alabama065/i-065_nb_exit_005a_02.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/southeast/alabama065/i-065_nb_exit_005a_02.jpg)
Quote from: Hoss6884 on January 02, 2015, 08:23:34 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 10, 2014, 08:58:27 AM
I-579 use to be the last remaining Interstate in PA that had it's entire route posted with State Named shields. However, with all the new BGS's installed, every last mainline state named shield bit the dust. Only good thing that came out of that was that we now have a Southern 'END' shield that we didn't have before. We once had a Northern 'END' shield, but it disappeared ages ago, and has never been replaced, even though the 'END' banner (http://goo.gl/maps/nr7bo) still remains. Only one state named I-579 remains, and it's the one shown in the Shield Gallery, unless there's one hidden somewhere else that I don't know about.
I-279 state named shields are easier to find if you know where to look, but, none are posted along the mainline itself, but there are less of them because of I-376 taking over part of it's route a few years ago.
As for I-79, only one state named shield on the mainline comes to mind at this time, and it's on the Neville Island Bridge. In fact, I think the 'SOUTH' banner that it has is original to when the bridge opened. Too bad the shield isn't, but still, a state named on the mainline in PA is a rare sight nowadays. http://goo.gl/maps/Oqcc7
I came across this beauty (http://goo.gl/mJcLsR) while driving in Downtown Pittsburgh during the holidays. This might be the only I-376 shield left in the wild.
There are a few other state-named I-79 shields located around the Campbells Run Road ramp to the Parkway West (Example #1 (http://goo.gl/8IUhlv) and Example #2 (http://goo.gl/Pl149V)).
I'll take back my comment about I-579 now not having any state-named shields on the mainline. One did survive (not counting the surviving one at Mario Lemieux Place). And it's even paired with a state-named I-376. http://goo.gl/maps/SmDZi
And Hoss6884, that one on Cowan Road (http://goo.gl/8IUhlv) seems to be a brand new one that was posted when I-376 was added to that section of the Parkway.
Does anyone know if California just decided to get rid of state-name shields? I spotted some neutered I-10 shields, I'll take pics next time.
Quote from: KG909 on January 06, 2015, 06:27:54 PM
Does anyone know if California just decided to get rid of state-name shields? I spotted some neutered I-10 shields, I'll take pics next time.
Did they look like these?
(https://www.aaroads.com/california/images005/i-005_nb_exit_221_03b.jpg)
(https://www.aaroads.com/california/images080/i-080_eb_exit_194_01.jpg)
I have seen neutered shields on I-80 and I-5. I chalk this up to a strange phase Caltrans went through a few years ago where they posted some unusually shaped interstate shields. Most retained the state name but some of the newer ones did not. Either way, these angular shields look hideous!
Quote from: myosh_tino on January 07, 2015, 02:26:38 AM
Quote from: KG909 on January 06, 2015, 06:27:54 PM
Does anyone know if California just decided to get rid of state-name shields? I spotted some neutered I-10 shields, I'll take pics next time.
Did they look like these?
(https://www.aaroads.com/california/images005/i-005_nb_exit_221_03b.jpg)
(https://www.aaroads.com/california/images080/i-080_eb_exit_194_01.jpg)
I have seen neutered shields on I-80 and I-5. I chalk this up to a strange phase Caltrans went through a few years ago where they posted some unusually shaped interstate shields. Most retained the state name but some of the newer ones did not. Either way, these angular shields look hideous!
It looked like this
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F01%2F07%2F572ae496d7730c8979aaf43ebd969872.jpg&hash=db83511a4b6ea17e183608143904d2361f7a2c88)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F01%2F07%2Fd9f1121c8e0a77c9ae733ec7ddb7fddd.jpg&hash=f428fdf3a41a062b3c1336789ff28dc5bdad4319)
(thank you Gmsv)
Hmm, now that I see those other shields, it probably was a contractor that put them up. I actually kinda like the I-10 and I-5 neutered shields, but I love state-named shields.
Quote from: KG909 on January 07, 2015, 09:59:08 AM
It looked like this
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F01%2F07%2F572ae496d7730c8979aaf43ebd969872.jpg&hash=db83511a4b6ea17e183608143904d2361f7a2c88)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F01%2F07%2Fd9f1121c8e0a77c9ae733ec7ddb7fddd.jpg&hash=f428fdf3a41a062b3c1336789ff28dc5bdad4319)
Yep, those are those hideous angular interstate shields and it looks like a newer installation too (using raised-caps in the directional banner is a dead give-away). I guess Caltrans still have some in inventory. I wish they'd burn those and go back to the old '57 spec shields.
Regarding California Interstate shields that lack the state name, the places where I've noticed them the most are:
I-80 in the Sierra Nevada and "over the top" in Sacramento (although that may have changed with the recent ongoing construction project)
I-5 through western Kern County (all angular shields with no state name; travel one county north or south, and the shields are all state named)
I-5 in northern San Diego County (only a few remain, mostly southbound; several were replaced a couple years ago with angular state name shields)
I-10 near San Bernardino heading west toward Pomona (some angular neutered along with some traditional shaped shields neutered)
I-15 in northern San Diego County (just a few remain, just like as on I-5; the wildfires of 2007 helped get rid old signs and bring the neutered signs forward)
I've noticed most recent construction projects such as I-15 Express Lanes in San Diego and I-5 in Orange County have state named shields, so I agree with Myosh that Caltrans seemed to go through a phase with non-state named shields.
Quote from: andy3175 on January 08, 2015, 12:24:26 AM
I've noticed most recent construction projects such as I-15 Express Lanes in San Diego and I-5 in Orange County have state named shields, so I agree with Myosh that Caltrans seemed to go through a phase with non-state named shields.
Andy,
Any idea if these new shields on the I-15 Express Lanes and on I-5 in Orange County the "angular" variety or are they the proper '57 spec shields?
Quote from: myosh_tino on January 08, 2015, 12:59:19 PM
Andy,
Any idea if these new shields on the I-15 Express Lanes and on I-5 in Orange County the "angular" variety or are they the proper '57 spec shields?
The I-15 Express Lanes freeway entrance shields are traditional proper specs. The I-15 Express Lanes mainline shields seem to vary between state-named angular, neutered angular, and state-named proper spec shields.
I-5 shields in Orange County are all state named, but you will find every possible variation in shield size and angularity. Some are 24", some are 36". Some are the angular variety with large numerals; others are the angular variety with smaller numerals. Some have green NORTH/SOUTH banners. I need to see the newest portion of I-5, from CA 91 north to the county line, to see how the new reassurance shields look.
I just came across this sign last night in downtown Seattle, near 6th and Union.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxD8euHX.jpg&hash=55133d6c6bfc6cbe49ac01d3fc5918365588031d)
Here's another state-named I-565 shield in Huntsville:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8570/15685798293_606c1e3643.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pU6Pma)To I-565 West (https://flic.kr/p/pU6Pma) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Quote from: TEG24601 on January 15, 2015, 08:01:59 PM
I just came across this sign last night in downtown Seattle, near 6th and Union.
http://i.imgur.com/xD8euHX.jpg
SDOT has installed a surprisingly large amount of state-named shields in the past 5-8 years. Who knows what prompted them to start doing it.
Quote from: jakeroot on January 18, 2015, 02:02:54 AM
Quote from: TEG24601 on January 15, 2015, 08:01:59 PM
I just came across this sign last night in downtown Seattle, near 6th and Union.
http://i.imgur.com/xD8euHX.jpg
SDOT has installed a surprisingly large amount of state-named shields in the past 5-8 years. Who knows what prompted them to start doing it.
Dont care who prompted them to do it....tell them to keep it up!
They always have.
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.661301,-122.317638,3a,52.5y,285.51h,92.88t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1svCOvS240ZwoC3ltWMhDmJQ!2e0
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.662209,-122.376076,3a,20.6y,352.97h,89.89t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s8bivX7y45VTfZA6RofelLQ!2e0
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.646122,-122.304733,3a,43.8y,185.86h,96.69t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sfkjDp_OmkXnSnYrok8cFOw!2e0
I am aware of at 2 least instances where a state named shield is named for another state besides the one in which the shield is posted. One set is located at the parking garage to the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, where the signs pointing to Interstate 15 show "California" rather than Nevada. Another is here, on Arizona 95 traveling south just north of Needles, CA just before crossing the Colorado River:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.852981,-114.608203,3a,75y,223.66h,91.43t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s9VYzQcLF7WhdzWTCHOuohw!2e0.
Are there other instances in which the state named shield posted shows a different state name than the state in which the shield is posted?
Quote from: KEK Inc. on January 18, 2015, 08:32:39 PM
They always have.
But in lesser numbers than before. I could still point out quite a few shields w/o "Washington" plastered on it.
Quote from: jakeroot on January 18, 2015, 09:06:29 PM
Quote from: KEK Inc. on January 18, 2015, 08:32:39 PM
They always have.
But in lesser numbers than before. I could still point out quite a few shields w/o "Washington" plastered on it.
Maintained by SDOT and not WSDOT? Interchanges are WSDOT-maintained.
In Minnesota there are still three or four mainline state-named I-494 shields near its northern terminus in Maple Grove. Even as MNDot has replaced many of the BGSs in this stretch the state-named shields have remained as of now.
Otherwise, I think all other state-named mainline shields in Minnesota are gone. As for others, I think there might be a couple trailblazers for I-94 and I-35E on city streets in downtown St. Paul still as well as a TO I-35 trailblazer I saw near Duluth.
Quote from: KEK Inc. on January 18, 2015, 09:21:21 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on January 18, 2015, 09:06:29 PM
Quote from: KEK Inc. on January 18, 2015, 08:32:39 PM
They always have.
But in lesser numbers than before. I could still point out quite a few shields w/o "Washington" plastered on it.
Maintained by SDOT and not WSDOT? Interchanges are WSDOT-maintained.
SDOT posts the occasional state-name shield (never by itself, always on an LGS) but WSDOT? Never. Not in a long time. The sign that Teg posted is SDOT-installed (since it's a city street).
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on January 18, 2015, 09:41:05 PM
In Minnesota there are still three or four mainline state-named I-494 shields near its northern terminus in Maple Grove. Even as MNDot has replaced many of the BGSs in this stretch the state-named shields have remained as of now.
Otherwise, I think all other state-named mainline shields in Minnesota are gone. As for others, I think there might be a couple trailblazers for I-94 and I-35E on city streets in downtown St. Paul still as well as a TO I-35 trailblazer I saw near Duluth.
This mainline one is about two and-a-half years old, just west of of I-494.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3857/15026397957_ea64596eef_c.jpg)
I forget exactly where this one was; somewhere on MN 55 southbound, near I-494:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3906/15189940886_4385efd1d9_c.jpg)
Spotted a Virginia-named I-66 shield in said route's median earlier today when we were headed west; it's located just east of Exit 27 for Marshall. I'd post a Street View link if I knew of a way to do so on my iPad, but I don't. Oddly, the next set of shields a tiny distance to the west of there, immediately after the exit sign, uses a neutered shield.
Off the top of my head I can think of two other state-named I-66 shields on the highway itself in Virginia–one eastbound just before the Virginia Lane overpass just inside the Beltway, the other westbound just west of the Barbour Road overpass (less than a mile east of Virginia Lane). There might be others, but since I took a different route home today I didnt get to look for eastbound shields outside the Beltway.
Quote from: andy3175 on January 18, 2015, 08:48:29 PM
I am aware of at 2 least instances where a state named shield is named for another state besides the one in which the shield is posted. One set is located at the parking garage to the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, where the signs pointing to Interstate 15 show "California" rather than Nevada.
It's worth noting that this example is not an actual standard Interstate shield assembly, but rather MGM property wayfinding signage in/around the parking garage.
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Another is here, on Arizona 95 traveling south just north of Needles, CA just before crossing the Colorado River:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.852981,-114.608203,3a,75y,223.66h,91.43t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s9VYzQcLF7WhdzWTCHOuohw!2e0.
While the location of the sign is in Arizona, it is a trailblazer for I-40 in which the closest access is actually in California. So totally correct to put California on the sign. Surprising amount of forethought on that one, considering it's not far from I-40 in Arizona.
Have captured all of these on trips to document I-66 in 2013 for a future page update on the main site.
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 19, 2015, 09:12:57 PM
Spotted a Virginia-named I-66 shield in said route's median earlier today when we were headed west; it's located just east of Exit 27 for Marshall. I'd post a Street View link if I knew of a way to do so on my iPad, but I don't. Oddly, the next set of shields a tiny distance to the west of there, immediately after the exit sign, uses a neutered shield.
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/i-066_wb_exit_027_01.jpg)
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 19, 2015, 09:12:57 PM
Off the top of my head I can think of two other state-named I-66 shields on the highway itself in Virginia–one eastbound just before the Virginia Lane overpass just inside the Beltway, the other westbound just west of the Barbour Road overpass (less than a mile east of Virginia Lane). There might be others, but since I took a different route home today I didnt get to look for eastbound shields outside the Beltway.
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/i-066_eb_exit_066_01.jpg)
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/mid-atlantic/i-066_wb_exit_064_01.jpg)
Quote from: Alex on October 16, 2014, 11:13:12 AM
Happy to report that the lone state-named I-95 southbound mainline shield (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=NC19790951) in North Carolina was still posted as of Sunday.
I drove through here earlier today and the last state-named 95 shields on 95 itself - one in each direction between US 64 and NC 43 are now replaced with neutered shields.
Mapmikey
What states generally post newer state-named shields? CT & NJ come to mind.
I THINK I've seen South Carolina posting newer ones.
I-80 at US 101 interchange in San Francisco the 80 shield is neutered.
Quote from: doofy103 on February 14, 2015, 08:17:57 PM
What states generally post newer state-named shields? CT & NJ come to mind.
Florida randomly does.
Quote from: doofy103 on February 14, 2015, 08:17:57 PM
What states generally post newer state-named shields? CT & NJ come to mind.
This wasn't always the case in NJ. They eliminated the state name back in the 90s, only in the past 10 years has it reappeared on new signs.
Quote from: doofy103 on February 14, 2015, 08:17:57 PM
What states generally post newer state-named shields? CT & NJ come to mind.
WV
Quote from: doofy103 on February 14, 2015, 08:17:57 PM
What states generally post newer state-named shields? CT & NJ come to mind.
Add Louisiana and Mississippi to the list.
Colorado usually adds the state name to the interstate shields, including those shields on most BGSs.
An old state-named Interstate 5 shield from 1985, Pierce County, Washington. I'm pretty sure I already posted this image in another thread, but the image was not nearly as good.
I'm almost 100% sure this is the last state-named shield in Pierce County, BGS or otherwise.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FrPvW1xM.jpg&hash=90750b3a7cc1eb9dbdafdfb2ecaa2e8bae61d10a)
Quote from: doofy103 on February 14, 2015, 08:17:57 PM
What states generally post newer state-named shields? CT & NJ come to mind.
Alabama uses mainly state-named shields. There are a few neutered ones around though.
Kentucky is increasingly using state-named markers.
I cherish non-reflective button copy and state-named interstate shields. Well, here's some shields.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8701/16898121921_ef24799508_c.jpg)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3845/14850396007_54bacd483e_c.jpg)
NY people: Weren't there some state-named I-90 shields around Albany?
Quote from: andy3175 on January 18, 2015, 08:48:29 PM
I am aware of at 2 least instances where a state named shield is named for another state besides the one in which the shield is posted. One set is located at the parking garage to the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, where the signs pointing to Interstate 15 show "California" rather than Nevada. Another is here, on Arizona 95 traveling south just north of Needles, CA just before crossing the Colorado River:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.852981,-114.608203,3a,75y,223.66h,91.43t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s9VYzQcLF7WhdzWTCHOuohw!2e0.
Are there other instances in which the state named shield posted shows a different state name than the state in which the shield is posted?
I could have sworn there was an NJ state named I-676 shield somewhere in Philly close to the Ben Franklin Bridge, but maybe my mind is playing tricks on me.
Quote from: doofy103 on February 22, 2015, 11:15:34 PM
NY people: Weren't there some state-named I-90 shields around Albany?
There were. A lot of what existed has been replaced with the I-90 and Washington Avenue Extension reconstruction projects.
Quote from: roadfro on January 20, 2015, 01:27:14 AM
Quote from: andy3175 on January 18, 2015, 08:48:29 PM
I am aware of at 2 least instances where a state named shield is named for another state besides the one in which the shield is posted. One set is located at the parking garage to the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, where the signs pointing to Interstate 15 show "California" rather than Nevada.
It's worth noting that this example is not an actual standard Interstate shield assembly, but rather MGM property wayfinding signage in/around the parking garage.
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Another is here, on Arizona 95 traveling south just north of Needles, CA just before crossing the Colorado River:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.852981,-114.608203,3a,75y,223.66h,91.43t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s9VYzQcLF7WhdzWTCHOuohw!2e0.
While the location of the sign is in Arizona, it is a trailblazer for I-40 in which the closest access is actually in California. So totally correct to put California on the sign. Surprising amount of forethought on that one, considering it's not far from I-40 in Arizona.
On this subject, I have always got a kick out of this one: This is in Santa Theresa, NM right next to the Texas/New Mexico State Line. The trailblazer shield is in New Mexico, and New Mexico is a state shield state, but the intersection they are leading you to by this sign is in Texas, and a few miles south of the state line. So they are not directing you to New Mexico Interstate 10 at all. There are a few more like this in Sunland Park, NM just a few miles south of this sign!!
https://www.google.com/maps/@31.876836,-106.643843,3a,85.4y,91.41h,87.11t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1so6O0qWLt1g5cVScBlukRkA!2e0
Quote from: andy3175 on January 18, 2015, 08:48:29 PM
I am aware of at 2 least instances where a state named shield is named for another state besides the one in which the shield is posted. One set is located at the parking garage to the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, where the signs pointing to Interstate 15 show "California" rather than Nevada. Another is here, on Arizona 95 traveling south just north of Needles, CA just before crossing the Colorado River:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.852981,-114.608203,3a,75y,223.66h,91.43t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s9VYzQcLF7WhdzWTCHOuohw!2e0.
Are there other instances in which the state named shield posted shows a different state name than the state in which the shield is posted?
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.776873,-87.583705&spn=0.005065,0.012102&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.776713,-87.58583&panoid=8IJunxjBYiPzc2QCoj6vpA&cbp=12,284.79,,2,-1.37 - There are FOUR (on the same post) Indiana shields on this sign on the south side of Chicago, although it's very hard to see in Google Maps.
Quote from: ajlynch91 on February 25, 2015, 07:47:14 PM
Quote from: andy3175 on January 18, 2015, 08:48:29 PM
I am aware of at 2 least instances where a state named shield is named for another state besides the one in which the shield is posted. One set is located at the parking garage to the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, where the signs pointing to Interstate 15 show "California" rather than Nevada. Another is here, on Arizona 95 traveling south just north of Needles, CA just before crossing the Colorado River:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.852981,-114.608203,3a,75y,223.66h,91.43t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s9VYzQcLF7WhdzWTCHOuohw!2e0.
Are there other instances in which the state named shield posted shows a different state name than the state in which the shield is posted?
https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.776873,-87.583705&spn=0.005065,0.012102&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=41.776713,-87.58583&panoid=8IJunxjBYiPzc2QCoj6vpA&cbp=12,284.79,,2,-1.37 - There are FOUR (on the same post) Indiana shields on this sign on the south side of Chicago, although it's very hard to see in Google Maps.
Just skip back one time-slot in historical street view and you jump a couple lanes closer.
As far as I know, there is the last VA I-395 shield (https://goo.gl/maps/cZDdp) (note: 2008 street view, but much better detail). (The previous two that I knew of [Van Dorn St's terminus at VA-7 and southbound Beauregard St just north of Seminary Rd] have both disappeared.)
Sorry if it's an old post, but I had to respond:
Quote from: Beeper1 on May 18, 2014, 01:12:25 AM
Rhode Island, whose signing standards in general are terrible, is a mixed bag of state-named and neutered shields. Most new installs are neutered but occasionally a new state-name will show up, usually for I-295 shields. Only 2 or 3 original state-name I-95 ones exist, in the urban areas of Providence/Pawtucket, and I don't know of any remaining state named I-195 shields.
During the Pawtucket River bridge reconstruction, a couple of state-named Interstate shields were installed. Growing up in an area without state-named Interstate shields, personally I think it looks a little off and could do with a change back to the neutered one considering every other I-95 shield both on and off the highway does not contain the state name, as is the same with 195. Of course, that's my personal opinion.
Happy to report this is still there:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8640/16055704264_ec084e5cee_c.jpg)
Another shield from Huntsville, AL:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7614/16827526725_cf323e2c69.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rCZtr8)To I-565 (https://flic.kr/p/rCZtr8) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Quote from: SSOWorld on June 07, 2014, 06:34:31 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 23, 2014, 09:29:51 AM
Wisconsin: one 90 left on 53 southbound.
An I-94 state-named shield still remains (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.069233,-88.554685,3a,75y,3.88h,86.56t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sm7wBOMlsY8zmjlB2F8PWdg!2e0). It's faded and doesn't follow the current WI standard "everything on black" so it's remnants. Willow Glen Road off the highway so not state maintained. (Dec 2012) It's certainly not a '57 spec.
Mainline I-90 WB has a '57 spec remaining past CTH B on French Island (near La Crosse)
Here are a few more Alabama ones:
Attalla:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8726/16931699745_0a8bb7d74d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rNcorF)I-59 Sheild (https://flic.kr/p/rNcorF) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Gadsden:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8707/16311658723_4f53d1f35f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qRpvRe)To I-759 (https://flic.kr/p/qRpvRe) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/people/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Quote from: cl94 on July 16, 2014, 09:30:43 PM
I-81: A few on the mainline north of Syracuse. Likely more.
Bad news- the ones north of Syracuse were replaced last summer as part of a R3 sign rehab project in Oswego County. Everything on 81 now between Exits 31 and 38 (save for BGS's) is shiny new, complete with the raised leading letter on the direction tab.
Quote from: cu2010 on March 27, 2015, 05:58:32 PM
Quote from: cl94 on July 16, 2014, 09:30:43 PM
I-81: A few on the mainline north of Syracuse. Likely more.
Bad news- the ones north of Syracuse were replaced last summer as part of a R3 sign rehab project in Oswego County. Everything on 81 now between Exits 31 and 38 (save for BGS's) is shiny new, complete with the raised leading letter on the direction tab.
Boooo, I hope the I-87 shields are still there north of Albany on the side streets. and the I-787 shields.
These are here still as of last month:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7640/16925379926_7a33302029_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rMCZMh)Old state-named interstate shields. King of Prussia, PA. (https://flic.kr/p/rMCZMh) by mergingtraffic (https://www.flickr.com/people/98731835@N05/), on Flickr
Outside Coors Field is this one with an off-typeface state name (https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/r90/10155349_10104840545644658_2668993036376814941_n.jpg?oh=7dec97af03569dcb2826de40c9c6c6e3&oe=5571BCB7). Looks like SnvDReg maybe?
(https://scontent-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/r90/p206x206/10155349_10104840545644658_2668993036376814941_n.jpg?oh=8a6f393bfac606057a4740776c45ffc9&oe=55A97A34)
Some RARE and new state-named interstate shields in Rhode Island. There hasn't been a new state-named interstate shield in the state for decades.
Design error? Contractor error? Who knows but they're there.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7653/16519754273_9a9fbc4af1_c.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7706/17139918215_f4252a5432_c.jpg)
Quote from: doofy103 on March 28, 2015, 12:14:24 PM
Quote from: cu2010 on March 27, 2015, 05:58:32 PM
Quote from: cl94 on July 16, 2014, 09:30:43 PM
I-81: A few on the mainline north of Syracuse. Likely more.
Bad news- the ones north of Syracuse were replaced last summer as part of a R3 sign rehab project in Oswego County. Everything on 81 now between Exits 31 and 38 (save for BGS's) is shiny new, complete with the raised leading letter on the direction tab.
Boooo, I hope the I-87 shields are still there north of Albany on the side streets.
I don't see why they wouldn't be. A bunch of them are on little town-maintained roads seemingly without any purpose.
Quote from: doofy103 on April 13, 2015, 09:04:29 PM
Some RARE and new state-named interstate shields in Rhode Island. There hasn't been a new state-named interstate shield in the state for decades.
Design error? Contractor error? Who knows but they're there.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7653/16519754273_9a9fbc4af1_c.jpg)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7706/17139918215_f4252a5432_c.jpg)
I'm willing to bet contractor error, which is part of the reason why you can find some neutered shields here in Alabama.
^ I refuse to consider putting the state-name on interstate shields a contractor error :)
Quote from: Ian on April 14, 2015, 11:49:37 AM
^ I refuse to consider putting the state-name on interstate shields a contractor error :)
Me too. More contractor errors like this for me please! :clap:
The last known state-named interstate shield in Massachusetts! This sign's days are numbered, unless they forget to take it down. A signing project is sweeping through and this sign's neutered replacement is standing to the left, out of range of the photo.
Although I did notice this sign was moved onto the grass, before it was on the sidewalk itself of MA-18.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7632/17161912022_727339a340_c.jpg)
Small correction: Mass. 81, not 18. You had me pulling my hair out for a minute trying to figure out where a new Applebee's opened in New Bedford.
I was hoping to compile an updated list for original spec interstate shields still left in the wild as the summer driving season starts.
CT:
2 I-84 '61 specs in Waterbury.
1 I-91 50s spec Hartford
1 I-91 '61 spec Hartford.
1 I-95 '61 spec in Old Saybrook.
DE:
4 I-95 '61 specs Wilmington.
NY:
I-787 60s spec on Broadway with US-20/9 Albany.
I-87 60s spec just north of Broadway on town maintained roads.
I-95 '61 spec Port Chester.
2 I-95 specs on Broadway over Trans Manhattan Expwy.
2 I-287 originals Port Chester.
NJ:
I-95 '61 spec with US-46 Ridgefield Park.
MA:
None
PA:
I-76 '61 spec King of Prussia mall
I-276 '61 spec King of Prussia mall.
RI:
None
VA:
2 I-95 '61 specs on US-1 SB Stafford, VA
My list is small...so feel free to add to the list, ones you know are still there.
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on June 03, 2015, 03:01:04 PM
I was hoping to compile an updated list for original spec interstate shields still left in the wild as the summer driving season starts.
CT:
2 I-84 '61 specs in Waterbury.
1 I-91 50s spec Hartford
1 I-91 '61 spec Hartford.
1 I-95 '61 spec in Old Saybrook.
DE:
4 I-95 '61 specs Wilmington.
NY:
I-787 60s spec on Broadway with US-20/9 Albany.
I-87 60s spec just north of Broadway on town maintained roads.
I-95 '61 spec Port Chester.
2 I-95 specs on Broadway over Trans Manhattan Expwy.
2 I-287 originals Port Chester.
NJ:
I-95 '61 spec with US-46 Ridgefield Park.
MA:
None
PA:
I-76 '61 spec King of Prussia mall
I-276 '61 spec King of Prussia mall.
RI:
None
VA:
2 I-95 '61 specs on US-1 SB Stafford, VA
My list is small...so feel free to add to the list, ones you know are still there.
Add the intersections of Dunsbach and Clamsteam Rds, Beach and Clamsteam Rds, and Beach and Towpath Rds in Clifton Park, NY for I-87. Those appear to be 60s spec
Quote from: cl94 on June 03, 2015, 09:24:49 PM
Add the intersections of Dunsbach and Clamsteam Rds, Beach and Clamsteam Rds, and Beach and Towpath Rds in Clifton Park, NY for I-87. Those appear to be 60s spec
I included those under
QuoteI-87 60s spec just north of Broadway on town maintained roads.
but meant to say Albany rather than Broadway. oops.
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on June 03, 2015, 03:01:04 PM
I was hoping to compile an updated list for original spec interstate shields still left in the wild as the summer driving season starts.
PA:
I-76 '61 spec King of Prussia mall
I-276 '61 spec King of Prussia mall.
VA:
2 I-95 '61 specs on US-1 SB Stafford, VA
Don't know if these are '61 specs but Breezewood has some small state-named I-70 and I-76 shields:
https://goo.gl/maps/Emgjh (these were there last month)
https://goo.gl/maps/EXh9l
https://goo.gl/maps/GJcQi (terrible GMSV, but these were still up into 2015 for sure)
Virginia also has:
On ramp from EB I-66 at Exit 23 (still there yesterday) - https://goo.gl/maps/mzHPZ
At bottom of same ramp, where US 55 shield used to be (still there yesterday) - https://goo.gl/maps/AKfMH
Markham (status unknown)
https://goo.gl/maps/n5z4w
4 in one view: https://goo.gl/maps/9teqH
US 17 SB at I-66 (status unknown)
https://goo.gl/maps/CS5xE
Many more I-66 ones have been in place recently at many exits west of US 15, plus along VA 55.
Another I-95 set at Exit 126 (I think at least one of these is still here) - https://goo.gl/maps/FLsLO
US 11 at I-64 (status unknown) - https://goo.gl/maps/aQNl7
US 11 at I-64/81 (ditto) - https://goo.gl/maps/qPRMp
There are certainly examples of I-64 and I-81 out there.
There do not seem to be any I-85 or I-77 examples that I have seen.
New Jersey had this one for I-676 as of June 2014 - https://goo.gl/maps/9VHAv
Mike
Another one or two for Virginia:
I-95:
One on westbound VA 36 at High Avenue in Hopewell, several miles from I-95. Very old...not sure if 61 spec or 57 spec. Still there a couple weeks ago.
http://goo.gl/maps/6KfFX
Richmond also had a few old 64s, 95s, and 195s in various places north of the James River, but most of them are 1970 spec.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/509/18807252809_3d6d5987cf_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uDW62t)Old state-named I-95 shield. Commerce Dr. Springfield, VA. (https://flic.kr/p/uDW62t) by mergingtraffic (https://www.flickr.com/photos/98731835@N05/), on Flickr
I got my parents doing some road geeking for me.
Virginia has a good number of that style of shield on local streets pointing the way to the Interstate. Off the top of my head, for I-95 I'm aware of one on eastbound Franconia Road at Villa Street and another on westbound Eisenhower Avenue near the turn for the DMV. I believe there are some others along Franconia Road, but I'm blanking as to where and I don't feel like going for a drive just now to check!
One thing I've noted about Virginia shields is that the newest ones, while they do not have the state name, have enough space left that the state name could have fit. That is, for years the numbers were so big they filled up the whole blue space. It was an ugly look. The newest shields use smaller numbers that don't look so crammed-in (though they're still bigger than what's shown above).
This shield in Everett, WA looks like it has enough space to slap on a state name:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/423/18778137408_c0014894f1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uBmS2N)
Vast quantities of freestanding Iowa interstate shields vanished in the past five years as all rural sections of interstate underwent interchange signage replacement projects, and large paneled signs replaced all shields on the cross roads. Reassurance signs after interchanges remain, as do shields at interchanges in urban areas.
I am somewhat concerned about the future of freestanding state-named shields in Iowa, as there have been assorted projects (not related to the genericization above) that use neutered shields with larger numbers.
Found another state-named shield in Washington outside of Seattle. This one is in Olympia along State between Washington & Franklin:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUuqyS00.jpg&hash=a6130ecda112df1c4f40529f7b99ab8584f52f65)
This is on a side street in Chambersburg (North 7th St. and East King St.)
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.935867,-77.647658,3a,37.9y,327.9h,86.99t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soa3XVvlVFy1ZJoB8R6NH7Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
It's pretty recent. Can't say how recent, since there is no date stamp on the back of the sign.
I finally have one in my hometown:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/18846960990/in/dateposted-public/
Quote from: Jeff Morrison on June 20, 2015, 11:37:04 PM
Vast quantities of freestanding Iowa interstate shields vanished in the past five years as all rural sections of interstate underwent interchange signage replacement projects, and large paneled signs replaced all shields on the cross roads. Reassurance signs after interchanges remain, as do shields at interchanges in urban areas.
I am somewhat concerned about the future of freestanding state-named shields in Iowa, as there have been assorted projects (not related to the genericization above) that use neutered shields with larger numbers.
I also think the guide sign installations at cross roads intersecting freeways is part of an effort to move away from the classic spec'd state named shields in Iowa. Furthermore last week we noted many neutered shield assemblies, especially along Interstate 35 northbound between Missouri and Iowa.
Missouri is also going full bore with neutered shields. Most assemblies along I-29 southbound are "shocked" (series C) neutered. I wrote Jeff about it and he confirmed that Missouri has favored neutered shields going forward.
I found this and it could also be in the best of thread:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/334/19051121242_4073869452_z.jpg)
Is this a '61 spec even though the wide shield?
Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2015, 12:24:59 PM
I also think the guide sign installations at cross roads intersecting freeways is part of an effort to move away from the classic spec'd state named shields in Iowa. Furthermore last week we noted many neutered shield assemblies, especially along Interstate 35 northbound between Missouri and Iowa.
<ominous tone>DOOOOOOMED!</ominous tone>
QuoteMissouri is also going full bore with neutered shields. Most assemblies along I-29 southbound are "shocked" (series C) neutered. I wrote Jeff about it and he confirmed that Missouri has favored neutered shields going forward.
(Not this Jeff)
I would guess that 95 percent of I-49 shields are neutered. I DID see a handful in the suburban KC area and got a picture of one last summer.
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on June 22, 2015, 11:45:49 PM
I found this and it could also be in the best of thread:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/334/19051121242_4073869452_z.jpg)
Is this a '61 spec even though the wide shield?
Is it double-sided?
Quote from: Jeff Morrison on June 24, 2015, 01:50:29 AM
QuoteMissouri is also going full bore with neutered shields. Most assemblies along I-29 southbound are "shocked" (series C) neutered. I wrote Jeff about it and he confirmed that Missouri has favored neutered shields going forward.
(Not this Jeff)
I would guess that 95 percent of I-49 shields are neutered. I DID see a handful in the suburban KC area and got a picture of one last summer.
Jeff R. told me that he spoke with the sign director for Missouri and that he is going to be a tough sell. Looks like to bring the state name back, it will have to be done legislatively. I-29 into Iowa was the first leg of neutered signs for Missouri.
Noted that every sign I saw for I-49 in the KC area was neutered. And not even the proper neutered with larger numbers, just smaller numbers shifted upward to nearly abut the horizontal rule. :thumbdown:
Quote from: route17fan on June 24, 2015, 05:58:20 AM
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on June 22, 2015, 11:45:49 PM
I found this and it could also be in the best of thread:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/334/19051121242_4073869452_z.jpg)
Is this a '61 spec even though the wide shield?
Is it double-sided?
yep...you found a rare "cute shield" with a wood EAST banner....
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Found an older I-81 state-named shield in Lexington VA earlier today...here is a 2012 GMSV of it...
https://goo.gl/maps/eQFHF
There were plenty of I-64 '61 spec shields still up along US 11 in the Lexington region.
Mike
The only original FL one left...
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/366/18623186024_ff17c08fdf_z.jpg)
Bessemer, AL:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/474/19382935425_7c38d87f4a.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vwNBpP)To I-20/I-59 (https://flic.kr/p/vwNBpP) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Probably the oldest I-565 shield in Huntsville, AL:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/348/19196738529_8d3fd1fa2b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vfmiyv)I-565 (https://flic.kr/p/vfmiyv) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/542/19196738269_90db9946a1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vfmiu2)I-565 (https://flic.kr/p/vfmiu2) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/509/19195354198_9387d7f95d.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vfed3J)I-565 (https://flic.kr/p/vfed3J) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
This guy isn't too far away from the previous I-565 shield:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/492/19195314170_410b4e9698.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vfe19A)I-565 (https://flic.kr/p/vfe19A) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
I posted this on the NYC Roads page on Facebook already, but for those who haven't seen it yet, here's a state-named I-684 shield posted on the mainline just south of Purdys. Are there any other state-named I-684 shields left out in the field, or is this the last one standing?
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVWLb32bl.jpg&hash=c7e3721c32af4b21ae3f0d5e365cf33b7dd9fe6d)
As I noted in my thread in the PNW forum, I found a state-name I-5 in Halsey!
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbickenland.lonaf.com%2Fpics%2FI-5OR99EOR228.jpg&hash=81b36a216088bd9c49a8d9d723b656d15f12c0aa)
Hinckley, MN. Minnesota has become an increasingly desolate place for state-name shields so finding one like this is cool.
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10982748_446824052168882_3122437436072947899_n.jpg?oh=14cc33dbcd2e1e8e9d2504925ded93c9&oe=560DF763)
Could this sign be from the construction of I-280 in NJ?
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/281/19398812918_24d4def6a5_z.jpg)
They're not '61-spec, but here's what I have found in states with only a few state-named examples:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/555/19677592106_6889efc3ca_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vYQNzq)
Interstate 90 Pennsylvania (https://flic.kr/p/vYQNzq) by formulanone (https://www.flickr.com/photos/formulanone/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/284/19517124699_1da88df4bb_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vJEncZ)
Interstate 49 and US Route 71 (https://flic.kr/p/vJEncZ) by formulanone (https://www.flickr.com/photos/formulanone/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/281/19677532136_283bcb005f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/vYQuKs)
Interstate 88 New York (https://flic.kr/p/vYQuKs) by formulanone (https://www.flickr.com/photos/formulanone/), on Flickr
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7536/15741879107_8a5ba94d44_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pZ4fdK)
I-5 South in Seattle (https://flic.kr/p/pZ4fdK) by formulanone (https://www.flickr.com/photos/formulanone/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/377/19123955949_e763e5e769_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/v8VgQr)
Int75MichiganShield-ToNorthChryslerFwy1 (https://flic.kr/p/v8VgQr) by formulanone (https://www.flickr.com/photos/formulanone/), on Flickr
The I-90 (PA) one is no longer there - that shield was in the Rest Area just inside the PA line from Ohio. Sadly gone. :(
Speaking of Detroit, I could've sworn I saw some state named I-94 shields that just said MICH. By chance were those MICH 94 shields on the BGS overheads at the Southfield Freeway after the big interchange rebuild in the 90s?
There was--at least in 2007--one example of MICH overhead. (http://www.alpsroads.net/roads/mi/m-39/) This was on the non-freeway part of M-39 approaching the beginning of the freeway at I-94.
Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2015, 12:24:59 PM
Quote from: Jeff Morrison on June 20, 2015, 11:37:04 PM
Vast quantities of freestanding Iowa interstate shields vanished in the past five years as all rural sections of interstate underwent interchange signage replacement projects, and large paneled signs replaced all shields on the cross roads. Reassurance signs after interchanges remain, as do shields at interchanges in urban areas.
I am somewhat concerned about the future of freestanding state-named shields in Iowa, as there have been assorted projects (not related to the genericization above) that use neutered shields with larger numbers.
I also think the guide sign installations at cross roads intersecting freeways is part of an effort to move away from the classic spec'd state named shields in Iowa. Furthermore last week we noted many neutered shield assemblies, especially along Interstate 35 northbound between Missouri and Iowa.
Missouri is also going full bore with neutered shields. Most assemblies along I-29 southbound are "shocked" (series C) neutered. I wrote Jeff about it and he confirmed that Missouri has favored neutered shields going forward.
Arizona and Wyoming also appear to be moving toward neutered shields. The southbound I-15 signage through the Virgin River Gorge are all neutered on the mainline, and the newest shields on I-90 east of Gillette and I-25 in downtown Casper with "14" or "15" date stamps (reflecting an installation date of 2014 or 2015) no longer carry the state name. While Wyoming has a 10 to 15 year replacement cycle for its signs (which means state named shields will still be commonplace for several years), I believe Arizona is more aggressive in replacing its signs possibly with a shorter replacement cycle. I have not visited Phoenix in a few years, so I don't know if new neutered shields have found their way into Phoenix or Tucson.
^ The AZ shields through Virgin River Gorge were all likely replaced as part of their I-15 rehab that went on in the past couple years. Not sure if the neutered shields would be a contractor issue on that project or an ADOT thing.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on July 10, 2015, 02:17:34 PM
Hinckley, MN. Minnesota has become an increasingly desolate place for state-name shields so finding one like this is cool.
Don't forget about the I-35E MN shield we told you and Chris about on CSAH 14 / Exit 123 :nod:
I was driving through the Lehigh Valley this past weekend and noticed that the BGS' at the US 22/PA 33 interchange containing TO or JCT. references to I-78 feature all state-named I-shields.
JCT. I-78 signage along PA 33 Southbound at US 22 interchange (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Easton,+PA/@40.689326,-75.289238,3a,75y,170.1h,86.39t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHL1yNLG9r33NTeFlcyt9Sw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DHL1yNLG9r33NTeFlcyt9Sw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D100%26h%3D80%26yaw%3D89.909981%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89c46b821870585f:0x37203227748fc82b!6m1!1e1)
Note: the I-78/PA 33 interchange does not contain any state-named I-78 shields.
Here are a couple at on-ramps to I-90 east of Seattle:
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.539621,-122.036104,3a,40.4y,223.95h,92.82t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgQBWCTTGmivE9TJkFKR9HQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
https://www.google.com/maps/@47.418486,-121.410893,3a,16.9y,105.63h,98.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLDcSvnNJB4UTsVvZShn2Aw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fh98KGQp.jpg&hash=54124e48b1e99754ddda02d3426495e2b33677aa) Here's a recent install in my town, no more than 7-8 years old. I question who installed it CTDOT or the Town of Bethel, though the ineptitude on the "CT 6" (US 6) sign points to the Town. Duh... :pan:
On the way home from north to Gettysburg yesterday I spotted at least one state-named I-270 shield in Maryland and immediately made a mental note of where it was and told myself to post it here. Now, of course, I'm blanking on the location. I'm off work today, so this afternoon I'll sort through the dashcam videos to find it and I'll update back here. I'm thinking it was somewhere in the Frederick vicinity rather than further south, especially since I bailed off I-270 in favor of Route 355 between Urbana and I-370 due to heavy traffic and reckless drivers.
Edited: Found it in a dashcam video but the Google Street View imagery is clearer. It's northbound just after the "local" carriageway ends and merges back in with the other lanes.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.157422,-77.22664,3a,66.8y,330.56h,80.27t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sZH76V0INq8n8tZRmK4eanA!2e0
Quote from: TheCatalyst31 on December 28, 2014, 01:37:22 AM
I found another Wisconsin one, an I-43 shield (https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.518583,-88.017215&spn=0.003316,0.005284&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=44.518607,-88.017339&panoid=-ceJ1mNIMuzV6icoV1KSuQ&cbp=12,330.01,,2,-4.77) on US 141 in Green Bay. It's still standing as of today.
Newest street view (Sep 2015) shows the light standard it was on had been knocked down and the only thing there is a temporary sign showing a bus stop. Hopefully they were able to salvage the sign to put on a replacement light post.
I-24 in Georgia has all state-named interstate shields along it now, I believe. Here are three I was able to photograph on Thursday:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5666/23212446245_6594ecc1ac.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BncRyr)I-24 Shield (https://flic.kr/p/BncRyr) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/709/22844511279_98da953c1f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ANG6j8)I-24 Shield (https://flic.kr/p/ANG6j8) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/611/22584014924_8e7cc62b14.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ApEYPE)I-24 Shield (https://flic.kr/p/ApEYPE) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
There was also this Georgia state-named shield that somehow found its way into Tennessee on a BGS I wasn't able to get a photo of it though, but here it is on street view:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.9913849,-85.4778958,3a,15y,121.04h,92.06t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sa8PxV-2esTXJi323sBYxKQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
It may be hard to tell, but there is a "Pennsylvania" on this I-81 shield:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fc1.staticflickr.com%2F1%2F768%2F22093839320_861234b123_k.jpg&hash=69643221059dd7852fc280f344bcb22c5d6e7d54)
Here are some more state-named interstate shields from Alabama:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5764/22916996960_8f1ac4b749.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/AV6AMf)I-20/I-59 (https://flic.kr/p/AV6AMf) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/666/22584355924_a3265c59fc.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ApGJbY)I-20/I-59 (https://flic.kr/p/ApGJbY) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5759/22917012700_a38a16a06c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/AV6FsC)I-359/US 11/AL 69 (https://flic.kr/p/AV6FsC) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Also, here's something rather odd for the state, state-named interstate shields on a BGS!
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/627/22844919709_975b1476c2.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ANJbJ2)State-named Shields on a BGS (https://flic.kr/p/ANJbJ2) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
I saw another BGS with a state-named I-359 shield, but I wasn't able to get any photos of it. Here it is on street view though:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.1712994,-87.5491229,3a,15y,229.75h,92.33t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-w4edMod1KKOewboOMr1Uw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on November 22, 2015, 11:24:21 AM
It may be hard to tell, but there is a "Pennsylvania" on this I-81 shield:
It has a sibling going NB @ PA-309.
https://goo.gl/maps/VLUxJVhEYB52
There is also a state named I-279 shield on a BGS here in Pittsburgh.
https://goo.gl/maps/zDaiMSX8DTF2
This one also still exists surprisingly given the overall condition of the sign: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9277744,-75.1958891,3a,22.9y,169.56h,112.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-kxhbAqekE3opxtjolQCTg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
The GSV is over a year old and it's gotten worse over that time.
Found my first North Carolina one in the wild...not '57-spec, but still a rarity.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/579/23396700082_9260256024_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/BDucNJ)
Just stumbled across this one in Portsmouth for Interstate 264:
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8319905,-76.3014339,3a,75y,258.91h,89.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWOGdTSWZo5JjV9UG7fnWaA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: ekt8750 on November 25, 2015, 10:43:03 AM
This one also still exists surprisingly given the overall condition of the sign: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9277744,-75.1958891,3a,22.9y,169.56h,112.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s-kxhbAqekE3opxtjolQCTg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
The GSV is over a year old and it's gotten worse over that time.
The message layout on that particular BGS is a bit messed up as well in that the
TO reference is in the wrong place. It should be between the
EAST 76 and
NORTH 95 messages' not to the left of both. Its Exit 347 BGS mate has a similar misplaced
TO reference; it should be placed between the PA 291 and I-95 shields.
Quote from: Alex on December 31, 2015, 10:49:07 AM
Just stumbled across this one in Portsmouth for Interstate 264:
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.8319905,-76.3014339,3a,75y,258.91h,89.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWOGdTSWZo5JjV9UG7fnWaA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Excellent...
Turns out there is an even older looking one nearby. The shield on the opposite side of this pole is also state-named but looks way newer...don't know when I'll be in Portsmouth again but I need to try to go get pics of these while they last...
https://goo.gl/maps/KpeTHWBKEwu
Mike
Looked around Lockland, OH on GSV and noted that all five state named shields for I-75 were replaced or simply were removed. With the I-70 in Columbus also gone, does that leave Ohio as completely devoid of them now?
I believe that the Ohio Turnpike still has state-named shields for I-80, I-90 and I-76, in their respective areas, but the Turnpike is not ODOT.
I have not seen an Ohio shield on the Turnpike in years. The last ones I recall were in 2007.
Quote from: thenetwork on January 19, 2016, 12:09:42 PM
I believe that the Ohio Turnpike still has state-named shields for I-80, I-90 and I-76, in their respective areas, but the Turnpike is not ODOT.
I know of I-75 shields in Cincinnati and Toledo proper that still remain.
Quote from: Alex on January 18, 2016, 11:26:31 PM
Looked around Lockland, OH on GSV and noted that all five state named shields for I-75 were replaced or simply were removed. With the I-70 in Columbus also gone, does that leave Ohio as completely devoid of them now?
I happened on one in Cincinnati, well away from I-75, a couple of years ago. Can't remember exactly where it was, but I do know it's located west of I-75 and south of I-74, not too far away from where those two routes meet.
Quote from: hbelkins on January 22, 2016, 08:03:49 PM
I happened on one in Cincinnati, well away from I-75, a couple of years ago. Can't remember exactly where it was, but I do know it's located west of I-75 and south of I-74, not too far away from where those two routes meet.
This may be it...still there as of Sept 2014:
https://goo.gl/maps/eUftNNASTtk
Mike
Quote from: Mapmikey on January 22, 2016, 08:40:22 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 22, 2016, 08:03:49 PM
I happened on one in Cincinnati, well away from I-75, a couple of years ago. Can't remember exactly where it was, but I do know it's located west of I-75 and south of I-74, not too far away from where those two routes meet.
This may be it...still there as of Sept 2014:
https://goo.gl/maps/eUftNNASTtk
Mike
That's it.
As of this afternoon, the three state-name I-87 shields near the Twin Bridges are still in place. With this one (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.8062574,-73.7523522,3a,17.5y,83.58h,79.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6JQ4rX7H6gvxWISDHGMyRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), much of the center of the sign has faded to white. As all three signs are on town-maintained highways, I don't picture them disappearing anytime soon.
Gadsden, AL:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1479/25487747606_349fa9460c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/EQgnof)AL 291/To I-759 (https://flic.kr/p/EQgnof) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
WV I-70
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2440/3755864434_56bde9866b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/6HTMDm)
US 40 @ WV 2 (https://flic.kr/p/6HTMDm) by Jon Dawson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmd41280/), on Flickr
WV I-77
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3387/4552078860_600c0e0636_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/7WfAsh)
Signs outside WV Welcome Center (https://flic.kr/p/7WfAsh) by Jon Dawson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmd41280/), on Flickr
PA I-80
(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6171/6183392262_a68c6b0b1d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/aqpv6q)
US 322/PA Routes 28 & 36 - Brookville, PA (https://flic.kr/p/aqpv6q) by Jon Dawson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmd41280/), on Flickr
SC I-26
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7063/7082314911_428b9131b8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/bMQHtM)
US 21 @ I-26 (https://flic.kr/p/bMQHtM) by Jon Dawson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmd41280/), on Flickr
WV I-64/I-77
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7181/6978551456_9716bec301_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/bCEUdG)
I-64 / I-77 (https://flic.kr/p/bCEUdG) by Jon Dawson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmd41280/), on Flickr
WV I-79
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8021/7124677959_bf09919d86_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/bRzQxa)
I-79 and US 19 signs (https://flic.kr/p/bRzQxa) by Jon Dawson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmd41280/), on Flickr
WV I-70 & I-470
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3206/3111685811_916d6f372e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/5JYcMn)
Another Sign Pic (https://flic.kr/p/5JYcMn) by Jon Dawson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmd41280/), on Flickr
Every I-787 state name shield I know of, including these (https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7399396,-73.6832562,3a,75y,34.07h,85.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sT1iC2b6OsLm_-I5XN2YdhQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), is gone. RIP. Region 1 went crazy with the Series C and eliminated what was left and even some of the newer shields.
Quote from: thenetwork on July 15, 2015, 09:46:54 AM
Speaking of Detroit, I could've sworn I saw some state named I-94 shields that just said MICH. By chance were those MICH 94 shields on the BGS overheads at the Southfield Freeway after the big interchange rebuild in the 90s?
Yeah, they were like that from the mid-'80s when the Southfield/i-94 interchange was reconfigured until the Great Clearview
Disaster Storm struck Michigan. Current I-94 shields are neutered.
I never thought I'd see the day! I found one in Illinois driving out of Midway Airport for I-55.
https://goo.gl/maps/AnzyziFUVvT2
Rare sight in Washington (outside of Seattle that is):
https://www.google.com/maps/@48.398622,-122.3281803,3a,27.2y,50.79h,82.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXa0vfvXt34jJuxWHZqnT7w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
The old spec I-80 Nebraska shield on S 26th Ave at O Street in Omaha is no more. The trailblazer was replaced, but without the needed arrow.
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on March 29, 2016, 05:20:29 PM
Rare sight in Washington (outside of Seattle that is):
https://www.google.com/maps/@48.398622,-122.3281803,3a,27.2y,50.79h,82.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXa0vfvXt34jJuxWHZqnT7w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Holy crap. Looks like it even has a custom font. Awesome find, Fraze.
That Anderson Road exit was not built until 1975. I'd venture to guess that shield is that old.
As for the "TO" sign, it looks much like Skagit County's standard house number signs that were phased out in the 1990's.
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on March 29, 2016, 07:10:40 PM
That Anderson Road exit was not built until 1975. I'd venture to guess that shield is that old.
As for the "TO" sign, it looks much like Skagit County's standard house number signs that were phased out in the 1990's.
There's another (albeit much newer) state-named I-5 shield on the same road approaching the traffic circle from the other side...
Mike
CT still does state-named shields but this dates to the opening of I-691 in Cheshire, CT in 1987. Not old as road signs go, but it's almost 30 years already.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1587/26059688291_6fa0134453_c.jpg)
Quote from: jakeroot on March 29, 2016, 06:50:56 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on March 29, 2016, 05:20:29 PM
Rare sight in Washington (outside of Seattle that is):
https://www.google.com/maps/@48.398622,-122.3281803,3a,27.2y,50.79h,82.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXa0vfvXt34jJuxWHZqnT7w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
Holy crap. Looks like it even has a custom font. Awesome find, Fraze.
Agreed; great find! And there is another (newer) state named shield headed southbound on the same road just to the north ... see
https://www.google.com/maps/@48.4005491,-122.3290971,3a,75y,144.84h,71.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOE8bZtqmmVUXXGmOZGXaDg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en.
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on March 29, 2016, 11:09:49 PM
CT still does state-named shields but this dates to the opening of I-691 in Cheshire, CT in 1987. Not old as road signs go, but it's almost 30 years already.
Hard to tell what CT does with state-named interstate shields. Those replaced on I-395 last year are neutered. Those replaced on parts of I-95 in recent years have the state name. Then you have the ones on BGSs with the state name that replaced button copy shields. You never know what you're gonna find!
I think it depends....some sign work is given to contractors....hence the neutered shields, and the older-spec new I-95 shields on the Turnpike in East Haven. THe State sign shop still makes state-named shields last time i was up to visit....
Are state-named shields common in Mississippi? I could see this one being an anomaly, since it's posted in a Welcome Center/Rest area on I-10 westbound. Also, the font for "Mississippi" looks a bit wonky
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1464/26126598290_0304b4b5b0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FNHDrd)
Quote from: paulthemapguy on April 13, 2016, 10:07:37 AM
Are state-named shields common in Mississippi? I could see this one being an anomaly, since it's posted in a Welcome Center/Rest area on I-10 westbound. Also, the font for "Mississippi" looks a bit wonky
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1464/26126598290_0304b4b5b0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FNHDrd)
From what I understand, Mississippi uses the state name on most of their shields, like Alabama.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on April 13, 2016, 10:07:37 AM
Are state-named shields common in Mississippi?
Yes, Mississippi reintroducted the state name starting in 2008.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1444/25756199693_c782bbd450_c.jpg)
At least part of the state-name is still there. Taken last week. (New Jersey)
OK, so is the "E" pasted over an "A?" Was it "Challanger Road" at one point before being corrected?
New Jersey doesnt use them anymore, last time I was on I-95 around Trenton they didnt have the state name in it at all, also in Connecticut newer shields on I-95 and I-91 are missing the state name.
Quote from: mariethefoxy on April 15, 2016, 01:28:10 AM
New Jersey doesnt use them anymore, last time I was on I-95 around Trenton they didnt have the state name in it at all, also in Connecticut newer shields on I-95 and I-91 are missing the state name.
I-295 has some new looking ones on the northern part of the roadway:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2278733,-74.699018,3a,15y,210.32h,86.61t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sMpVE7KmlRRiLkVxExU3dBw!2e0!5s20151101T000000!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2504455,-74.6920119,3a,37.5y,308.79h,79.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shbI8ceh4tSyTbctkwAOAOw!2e0!5s20111001T000000!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1!6m1!1e1
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.251606,-74.6994846,3a,37.5y,133.55h,84.5t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgPC_7nRwYCVTMnToAeZsuQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1!6m1!1e1
Here's a great state-named shield: ;-)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5685/22098652798_186621c019_k.jpg)
But in all seriousness, here's a great one from the I-79 South Mile 83 Rest Area:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5633/22099321438_7664f032fe_k.jpg)
It looks like Wyoming is phasing out state named shields too. New sign installations along Grand Avenue in Laramie (Business 80 and US 30, signed as "To Interstate 80 and East US 30" in the eastbound direction) and Hart Street in Buffalo (Business 90 and US 16, signed as "To Interstate 90, To Interstate 25, and East US 16" in the eastbound direction) have Interstate shields that lack the state name. I have also seen extensive I-25 shields that lack the state name in the vicinity of Douglas and Casper along the mainline. I do not know if these instances are an anomaly or a new way of signing all Wyoming Interstates.
Quote from: andy3175 on April 19, 2016, 01:11:52 AM
It looks like Wyoming is phasing out state named shields too. New sign installations along Grand Avenue in Laramie (Business 80 and US 30, signed as "To Interstate 80 and East US 30" in the eastbound direction) and Hart Street in Buffalo (Business 90 and US 16, signed as "To Interstate 90, To Interstate 25, and East US 16" in the eastbound direction) have Interstate shields that lack the state name. I have also seen extensive I-25 shields that lack the state name in the vicinity of Douglas and Casper along the mainline. I do not know if these instances are an anomaly or a new way of signing all Wyoming Interstates.
Sometimes, if signage is included in a construction project, the contractor will put up their in-house signs which will stick to a different standard, as opposed to the shields that WYDOT would install themselves. The reason that these new signs lack the state name might be because they originated in the contractor's sign shop, and not a WYDOT facility's sign shop. This is pure speculation, though, and I don't really know for sure. Also congrats on 1000 posts heheh
It appears Iowa may be switching over to neutered shields - there are a few newer I-80 shields without the state name.
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And here's another entry for a state-named interstate shield where the state the shield is in does not match the state on the shield, this one for an I-29 trailblazer in Nebraska: Streetview. (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.002314,-95.9094462,3a,15y,92.09h,86.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s774VycaT5p6ajhQdQGuyuQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Quote from: Revive 755 on April 19, 2016, 06:55:39 PM
It appears Iowa may be switching over to neutered shields - there are a few newer I-80 shields without the state name.
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And here's another entry for a state-named interstate shield where the state the shield is in does not match the state on the shield, this one for an I-29 trailblazer in Nebraska: Streetview. (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.002314,-95.9094462,3a,15y,92.09h,86.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s774VycaT5p6ajhQdQGuyuQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
Also noted that upthread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=12304.msg2073722;topicseen#msg2073722) after seeing many for I-35 neutered last June. It probably started once Iowa began swapping out stand alone shields for small guide signs at crossroads back in 2010 (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=12304.msg2073307;topicseen#msg2073307). I noted even more neutered shields across the state on my recent trip, and all of the I-74 shields that were added for the 2012 reconstruction of the 53rd Street interchange are neutered while the older junction shields are still state named.
There are a few for I-29 with Iowa in them on the Nebraska side. Here is another I photographed a few weeks ago and posted on FB:
(https://scontent.ftpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/v/t1.0-9/12931169_10154138442332948_4798262710308293457_n.jpg?oh=99a2871853f9ee318d3a94e01cefddc7&oe=57BE574B)
To my delight, I found this last week in Joliet, IL. An oldie from back in the day!
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1575/26594275212_416d133757_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Gw3Buq)
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7331/27616068836_54896cc1ea_c.jpg)
East Orange, NJ.
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on June 16, 2016, 01:41:53 PM
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7331/27616068836_54896cc1ea_c.jpg)
East Orange, NJ.
It's really not that hard to find state name shields in NJ. They don't have to be as old as that one. Sometimes I wonder if they still make them. Here's one of I-280 that is a lot newer:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7948223,-74.2532656,3a,37.5y,27.86h,87.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suTvBuFz6MI5QVr0vp-9xpQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1?hl=en-US
Has anyone had the idea of making a map showing the states that use neutered shields and which ones don't? It would make it much easier to organize this information.
Anyone care to edit or add to this? (It's just MS Paint)
I was also considering adding a category of "historical use" for states that used them before but don't anymore. Or maybe a "recent" category for states that started using them only recently (like Mississippi from what I've heard).
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7320/27681110536_65d9243e26_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Jb5VLu)
Washington state can be "occasional" because the only agency that I know of that uses state-named shields is Seattle Department of Transportation (SDOT).
Change Kentucky to "occasional." I've seen state named markers for every Interstate in Kentucky except I-24. They're becoming more widespread.
There's a map for this somewhere that is similar to the Clearview map, either on this family of sites or elsewhere.
Maine only uses state name shields. PA did at one point, but stopped quite a while back, as did VT and NH. New York stopped in the late 80s or early 90s. Many of our neutered shields are relatively new.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 16, 2016, 04:49:30 PM
Has anyone had the idea of making a map showing the states that use neutered shields and which ones don't? It would make it much easier to organize this information.
Anyone care to edit or add to this? (It's just MS Paint)
I was also considering adding a category of "historical use" for states that used them before but don't anymore. Or maybe a "recent" category for states that started using them only recently (like Mississippi from what I've heard).
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7320/27681110536_65d9243e26_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Jb5VLu)
We had one on AARoads years ago. I am sure it has been discussed years prior on the forum as well.
With some of the recent changes involving at least six states, here is what I can come up with based on personal observation and texts/emails with Jeff R., Jake, Andy etc. (There are of course exceptions, such as the city of Seattle aforementioned, city of Manchester, NH, Pinellas County, FL installs, etc.):
States that use the state name:
AL, CA, CO, CT, ME, ND, SC, WV
States that recently added the state name:
LA, MS, TX, UT
States mostly using the state name, but with some neutered shields:
AZ, GA, KY, NJ, NM, NV, WY#
States included the state name until somewhat recently:
AR, IA, MO, VT*
States that switched to neutered shields years ago:
DC, DE, FL, NH, HI, ID, IL, IN, MD, MA, MI, MN, MT, NC, NH, NY, OH, PA, OR, RI, SD**, TN, WI, VA
# - lots of neutered shields in recent installations.
* - rapid sign replacements over the last four years removed most of the mainline and interchange based shields, several left in towns
** - a few 1970 spec based shields posted, but almost all neutered.
Edited to add GA
Quote from: Alex on June 17, 2016, 10:23:30 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 16, 2016, 04:49:30 PM
Has anyone had the idea of making a map showing the states that use neutered shields and which ones don't? It would make it much easier to organize this information.
Anyone care to edit or add to this? (It's just MS Paint)
I was also considering adding a category of "historical use" for states that used them before but don't anymore. Or maybe a "recent" category for states that started using them only recently (like Mississippi from what I've heard).
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7320/27681110536_65d9243e26_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Jb5VLu)
We had one on AARoads years ago. I am sure it has been discussed years prior on the forum as well.
With some of the recent changes involving at least six states, here is what I can come up with based on personal observation and texts/emails with Jeff R., Jake, Andy etc. (There are of course exceptions, such as the city of Seattle aforementioned, city of Manchester, NH, Pinellas County, FL installs, etc.):
States that use the state name:
AL, CA, CO, CT, ME, ND, SC, WV
States that recently added the state name:
LA, MS, TX, UT
States mostly using the state name, but with some neutered shields:
AZ, KY, NJ, NM, NV, WY#
States included the state name until somewhat recently:
AR, IA, MO, VT*
States that switched to neutered shields years ago:
DC, DE, FL, NH, HI, ID, IL, IN, MD, MA, MI, MN, MT, NC, NH, NY, OH, PA, OR, RI, SD**, TN, WI, VA
# - lots of neutered shields in recent installations.
* - rapid sign replacements over the last four years removed most of the mainline and interchange based shields, several left in towns
** - a few 1970 spec based shields posted, but almost all neutered.
Georgia uses the state name, but I forget if it was recently adopted or not.
Also, Tennessee has at least one state name posted in/near Memphis. Probably due to a contractor "error" though.
There have been more new Florida state-named shields appearing in the past 6-7 years, although only a handful used for reassurance.
Updated the map to match Alex's suggestions. Anything for OK, KS, and NE? Changes to Alex's propositions? I just wanted to unify all the things people have been reporting in this thread.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7397/27125249953_6244e14519_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HjXZMk)
If washington is orange because of a single city, then Indiana should be orange - Indianapolis has some.
Virginia doesn't do many new installs of state-named but there are pockets of modern state-named signs in central and western Virginia
How many neutered shields defines never? SC has a few neutered interstate shields...
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 17, 2016, 06:15:54 PM
If washington is orange because of a single city, then Indiana should be orange - Indianapolis has some.
Virginia doesn't do many new installs of state-named but there are pockets of modern state-named signs in central and western Virginia
How many neutered shields defines never? SC has a few neutered interstate shields...
Same with New York. NYCDOT occasionally installs state name shields. We're getting into dangerous territory with that one.
I was actually hoping to get more orange on the map. My idea for the orange was basically "if there are any new installs of state-named shields at all." I can change IN, VA and NY to orange in that case.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 17, 2016, 06:11:44 PM
Updated the map to match Alex's suggestions. Anything for OK, KS, and NE? Changes to Alex's propositions? I just wanted to unify all the things people have been reporting in this thread.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7397/27125249953_6244e14519_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HjXZMk)
Alaska could also be gray for "N/A". Also, red should probably be "very few/none", since some of the states that are red still have a few surviving.
Quote from: freebrickproductions on June 17, 2016, 07:03:40 PM
Alaska could also be gray for "N/A". Also, red should probably be "very few/none", since some of the states that are red still have a few surviving.
Agree. Ohio has virtually none (they switched as soon as neutered became an option), but New York didn't switch until the 90s and there are still quite a few kicking around in certain parts of the state, particularly New York City. Regions 1, 3, and 4, for example, had quite a few until this decade's sign replacements. I know that PA still has some around as well, but those are quickly disappearing.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 17, 2016, 06:30:15 PM
I was actually hoping to get more orange on the map. My idea for the orange was basically "if there are any new installs of state-named shields at all." I can change IN, VA and NY to orange in that case.
PA should be orange. Multitudes of state names are on new BGS' and two of them are across the hospital of the town that I live in (they're only a couple years old, but the red has faded to white). There's been a lot around the Harrisburg area too recently.
Agree with others that WA should just be red, since the Seattle ones I saw were mostly of older vintage. There was one I-5 on the mainline at Tacoma and a few on the I-90 mainline left in 2006. Zero for I-82.
My brother was distracting me when I came up with the list, so the three remaining states were just omitted by mistake.
NE dropped the state name a long time ago. Might be a few I-80's left but zero for the other routes.
KS was mostly state named in 2003/04, but my trip there in 2015 revealed a lot more neutered shields. The I-470 mainline was mostly devoid of state named shields for instance.
OK is mostly state named with a few neutered.
Quote from: Alex on June 17, 2016, 10:54:43 PM
Agree with others that WA should just be red, since the Seattle ones I saw were mostly of older vintage. There was one I-5 on the mainline at Tacoma and a few on the I-90 mainline left in 2006. Zero for I-82.
There are some along the backroads (notably, a pair along Cedardale Rd near Mt Vernon: https://goo.gl/Sv3ypw). The two along the 90 and 5 freeways are long gone.
The Seattle DOT sign shop still makes signs using the state name. This (https://goo.gl/tkoSt6) LGS with state names was only installed maybe 2-3 years ago. Granted, they're inconsistent (some other new ones drop the state name), but it's still common enough in the Seattle area that labelling WA as red is fairly misleading.
Updated it again:
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7703/27474084620_e83aec56dc_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HRMSb9)
If a state has only a couple state-named shields that are on ancient assemblies, I'm keeping it as red. The main question is whether state-named shields are produced for CURRENT new installations. Then, if I want to go the extra mile maybe consider historical signage trends etc. Of course there's always gonna be the gray area of "well, how recent is recent?"
for the record - very recent state-named shield in NJ (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2905152,-74.7840496,3a,20.9y,125.58h,82.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgZc732BxhD28yoNIrCyTVQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), still in pristine condition.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 18, 2016, 01:59:20 PM
Updated it again:
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If a state has only a couple state-named shields that are on ancient assemblies, I'm keeping it as red. The main question is whether state-named shields are produced for CURRENT new installations. Then, if I want to go the extra mile maybe consider historical signage trends etc. Of course there's always gonna be the gray area of "well, how recent is recent?"
Kansas should be Widespread, not "not until recently".
FWIW, Colorado went from widespread neutered to entirely using the state name back in 2002.
While Seattle's city department occasionally crafts state named shields, I'd still say the state should be red. Maybe hatch work for the state, add another color category for states with local jurisdictions still posting them, or just put an orange dot over Seattle :p
Speaking of local jurisdictions using state named shields, there was a period of time when Pinellas County, FL was posting state named shields left and right, but recent installations are back to standard neutered. There are some state named shields posted by the Tampa Expressway Authority at each SR 589 interchange, and occasionally contractor signs have the state name, such as in the city of Jacksonville and District 3. But even with those exceptions, I would still categorize Florida as None (or virtually none).
Quote from: Alex on June 21, 2016, 05:12:34 PM
While Seattle's city department occasionally crafts state named shields, I'd still say the state should be red. Maybe hatch work for the state, add another color category for states with local jurisdictions still posting them, or just put an orange dot over Seattle :p
Do the same for New York. As with Seattle, one jurisdiction posting them should not turn the entire state orange, but conditions are similar enough that New York and Washington should be the same color.
Vermont still has quite a few state name shields around, even with the mass replacement. Noticed a bunch along I-91 when I was through there this weekend.
I would put Florida in the "Occassional/Rare", because they seem to be making a bit of a comeback.
I've seen several recent I-95, an I-10, and some I-75 shields with the state name and there's also been a few for I-4 and I-275 posted here and there.
I think I-595 is the only interstate in Florida in which I've never seen a state-named example, historical (it's only about 25 years old) or otherwise.
What's the difference between "Always" and "Widespread"? Does "Always" mean they have never stopped using state named shields, and "Widespread" means they have always used state named shields, but a few neutered shields have slipped through the cracks from contractors and such? The reason I ask is I have seen some neutered shields in California. They are rare, but just as rare as seeing a neutered shield in Arizona.
Texas has had a love/hate relationship with state named shields. There were times they did and times they didn't. I would say Texas should not be in the "Not until recently" category. There should be a "neuter/state shield mix" category. That way, states that are big like Texas that have several districts (and believe it or not, TxDOT districts do things way different from district to district) can be better represented because one district may be state shield heavy while another never puts out state shields.
Is Arkansas correct? I thought they recently incorporated neutered shields, but still have some state shields, like on Interstate 49.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 22, 2016, 09:43:34 AM
What's the difference between "Always" and "Widespread"? Does "Always" mean they have never stopped using state named shields, and "Widespread" means they have always used state named shields, but a few neutered shields have slipped through the cracks from contractors and such?
Well keep in mind that I worked with what paulthemapguy came up with and came up with the classifications on the fly. So it's still open to interpretation. :coffee:
With that stated, widespread meant that the state installs both state named shields and neutered shields, but with a tendency for the former. Georgia is a good example. You can find a mixture of both state and non-state name on the I-95 mainline for instance. Widespread also conveys that it is not hard to find a state-named shield. Contrast this to a state like Virginia where you may find some for I-81, but you will never find one for I-77 as the last was replaced several years ago.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 22, 2016, 09:43:34 AM
The reason I ask is I have seen some neutered shields in California. They are rare, but just as rare as seeing a neutered shield in Arizona.
Any neutered instance in California is either a local install or a contractor error. Those angular 3-di width neutered I-5's installed in the Central Valley for instance were placed in error. The error reference is from when Andy corresponded with Caltrans about them a few years back. So more or less, all state named shields is what you get (or are supposed to get).
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 22, 2016, 09:43:34 AM
Texas has had a love/hate relationship with state named shields. There were times they did and times they didn't. I would say Texas should not be in the "Not until recently" category. There should be a "neuter/state shield mix" category. That way, states that are big like Texas that have several districts (and believe it or not, TxDOT districts do things way different from district to district) can be better represented because one district may be state shield heavy while another never puts out state shields.
Yes, you are correct, Texas was vastly neutered up until a few years ago. The state is "recently added," because of our very own Jeff R, who led efforts to have the state re-add the name on Interstate shields. He went to a number of agencies, chambers of commerce, etc. to pitch the idea. In the end, the right people liked the concept of having their state's name displayed that much more often, so it was re-added to their signing practices. He was similarly successful with convincing LADOTD to readopt it in Louisiana.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 22, 2016, 09:43:34 AM
Is Arkansas correct? I thought they recently incorporated neutered shields, but still have some state shields, like on Interstate 49.
The Arkansas neutering news, along with Iowa and Missouri, was also from Jeff R. Most new assemblies. I cannot confirm if they all new assemblies are, but ones I have seen posted here, such as those for I-555 are neutered with the over sized numbers. Granted there are plenty of remaining state named shields in place (and will be for years to come), I mostly wanted to pass on the info that a few states that previously used the state name no longer will.
Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2016, 04:02:08 PM
Contrast this to a state like Virginia where you may find some for I-81, but you will never find one for I-77 as the last was replaced several years ago.
Not that it changes the meaning of your thoughts, but as of Sept 2015 there was still at least 1 state-named I-77 shield:
https://goo.gl/maps/592CmGCN9KS2
Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2016, 04:02:08 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 22, 2016, 09:43:34 AM
What's the difference between "Always" and "Widespread"? Does "Always" mean they have never stopped using state named shields, and "Widespread" means they have always used state named shields, but a few neutered shields have slipped through the cracks from contractors and such?
Well keep in mind that I worked with what paulthemapguy came up with and came up with the classifications on the fly. So it's still open to interpretation. :coffee:
With that stated, widespread meant that the state installs both state named shields and neutered shields, but with a tendency for the former. Georgia is a good example. You can find a mixture of both state and non-state name on the I-95 mainline for instance. Widespread also conveys that it is not hard to find a state-named shield. Contrast this to a state like Virginia where you may find some for I-81, but you will never find one for I-77 as the last was replaced several years ago.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 22, 2016, 09:43:34 AM
The reason I ask is I have seen some neutered shields in California. They are rare, but just as rare as seeing a neutered shield in Arizona.
Any neutered instance in California is either a local install or a contractor error. Those angular 3-di width neutered I-5's installed in the Central Valley for instance were placed in error. The error reference is from when Andy corresponded with Caltrans about them a few years back. So more or less, all state named shields is what you get (or are supposed to get).
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 22, 2016, 09:43:34 AM
Texas has had a love/hate relationship with state named shields. There were times they did and times they didn't. I would say Texas should not be in the "Not until recently" category. There should be a "neuter/state shield mix" category. That way, states that are big like Texas that have several districts (and believe it or not, TxDOT districts do things way different from district to district) can be better represented because one district may be state shield heavy while another never puts out state shields.
Yes, you are correct, Texas was vastly neutered up until a few years ago. The state is "recently added," because of our very own Jeff R, who led efforts to have the state re-add the name on Interstate shields. He went to a number of agencies, chambers of commerce, etc. to pitch the idea. In the end, the right people liked the concept of having their state's name displayed that much more often, so it was re-added to their signing practices. He was similarly successful with convincing LADOTD to readopt it in Louisiana.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 22, 2016, 09:43:34 AM
Is Arkansas correct? I thought they recently incorporated neutered shields, but still have some state shields, like on Interstate 49.
The Arkansas neutering news, along with Iowa and Missouri, was also from Jeff R. Most new assemblies. I cannot confirm if they all new assemblies are, but ones I have seen posted here, such as those for I-555 are neutered with the over sized numbers. Granted there are plenty of remaining state named shields in place (and will be for years to come), I mostly wanted to pass on the info that a few states that previously used the state name no longer will.
What I am trying to say about Texas is they, have been using state shields on and off since the interstate highway system started. There were sections of the state that used only state shields for a long time (like the entire length of I-37, and that freeway was finished in the mid 80's, so up until maybe the 1990s they were still posting state shields). I would say since the early 90s until the late 2000s Texas used neutered shields, but Texas is in the "not until recently" category, which makes it seem like they never did it, then just a few days ago they did it for the first time. All I mean is you can find some state shields that are not dated a few years ago, and are also not dated from 1962 when it was standard to have a state shield and there was no neutered option.
I am still confused on the difference between "Always" and "Widespread". I hear you California are always state shields and there are some contractor nurtured shields, but Arizona and New Mexico are the exact same way. It is in their respective highway departments to have a state shield, and if there is a nurtured one, it is a contractor error, yet they are in the "Widespread" category.
I realize I might be splitting hairs, just asking for a clarification as to what makes you an "Always" state vs. a "Widespread" state.
Basically, "Occasional" is where both types exist, but state-named shields are less common than neutered. "Widespread" is when state-named shields are as common or more common than neutered shields. If there are only a few ancient signs with state names on them, I'm keeping it as red, like with Illinois.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 22, 2016, 07:04:59 PM
Basically, "Occasional" is where both types exist, but state-named shields are less common than neutered. "Widespread" is when state-named shields are as common or more common than neutered shields. If there are only a few ancient signs with state names on them, I'm keeping it as red, like with Illinois.
That all makes sense, but I am asking the difference between "Always" and "Widespread". I guess what do the "Always" (or green) states have that the "Widespread" (or yellow) states don't? I guess I am saying have you seen x amount of neutered shields in Oklahoma, or there are x amount of pictures of neutered shields in Oklahoma to make it "Widespread" and not "Always", while California is considered "Always" because the nurtured shields found in California (are we counting some of the old ceramic BGS with smaller button copy shields with no state name as well?) are 1000000% known to be put up by a contracted company?
I am not trying to pick this apart, I am just having a hard time differentiating the yellow and the green states since in my experience, I would consider them the same. Little help.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 23, 2016, 04:42:18 PM
I am not trying to pick this apart, I am just having a hard time differentiating the yellow and the green states since in my experience, I would consider them the same. Little help.
Green - neutered shields are rare
Yellow - mostly state name, but plenty of neutered mixed in
In some states, it's pretty much impossible to find neutered shields. Those states are green. And don't get me wrong- I'm not putting this map together based on my knowledge alone lol. I'm trying to get all the input from others in this thread and assemble it together in a way that's easy to demonstrate.
Regarding Florida, are the shields popping up new or are they just really old ones that adhere to an archaic standard?
Quote from: Alex on June 21, 2016, 05:12:34 PM
Kansas should be Widespread, not "not until recently".
When did they switch over? Do you know? I'm considering changing it.
Quote from: Alex on June 21, 2016, 05:12:34 PM
While Seattle's city department occasionally crafts state named shields, I'd still say the state should be red. Maybe hatch work for the state, add another color category for states with local jurisdictions still posting them, or just put an orange dot over Seattle :p
The orange wasn't originally part of the map...The orange is already my idea of a mix/hatch between red and yellow lol
There is one, recent state-name I-5 shield in Oregon: Halsey, at the intersection of OR 99E and 228.
Quote from: cl94 on June 21, 2016, 05:36:19 PM
Quote from: Alex on June 21, 2016, 05:12:34 PM
While Seattle's city department occasionally crafts state named shields, I'd still say the state should be red. Maybe hatch work for the state, add another color category for states with local jurisdictions still posting them, or just put an orange dot over Seattle :p
Vermont still has quite a few state name shields around, even with the mass replacement. Noticed a bunch along I-91 when I was through there this weekend.
Ooooh I'd love to know where? PM me if you wish.
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on June 24, 2016, 09:11:33 PM
Quote from: cl94 on June 21, 2016, 05:36:19 PM
Quote from: Alex on June 21, 2016, 05:12:34 PM
While Seattle's city department occasionally crafts state named shields, I'd still say the state should be red. Maybe hatch work for the state, add another color category for states with local jurisdictions still posting them, or just put an orange dot over Seattle :p
Vermont still has quite a few state name shields around, even with the mass replacement. Noticed a bunch along I-91 when I was through there this weekend.
Ooooh I'd love to know where? PM me if you wish.
I-91 south of I-89, SB side. Don't know about NB. One is immediately south of I-89 (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6345511,-72.3393807,3a,50.6y,253.86h,75.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swNqgQtZO9NTIqsrg-zNKCw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). As you can see, it is in
very good shape.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 23, 2016, 08:02:23 PM
In some states, it's pretty much impossible to find neutered shields. Those states are green. And don't get me wrong- I'm not putting this map together based on my knowledge alone lol. I'm trying to get all the input from others in this thread and assemble it together in a way that's easy to demonstrate.
I know with Alabama, neutered are somewhat hard to find, unless you know where to look (such as the east end of I-22).
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 23, 2016, 08:02:23 PM
Regarding Florida, are the shields popping up new or are they just really old ones that adhere to an archaic standard?
IIRC, the state named ones that have popped up recently are new ones!
I would classify CT as "Widespread" rather than "Always". I've seen one sign go from a state shield 20 years ago to neutered up until about 3 years ago, and now it's a state shield again. I've seen both at the same interchange. Seems ConnDOT went toward neutered shields about 15 years ago, but state shields are popping up again. Overall, there are more state shields than neutered.
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 22, 2016, 04:22:50 PM
Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2016, 04:02:08 PM
Contrast this to a state like Virginia where you may find some for I-81, but you will never find one for I-77 as the last was replaced several years ago.
Not that it changes the meaning of your thoughts, but as of Sept 2015 there was still at least 1 state-named I-77 shield:
https://goo.gl/maps/592CmGCN9KS2
Wow, nice find there. Thought that the last one for I-77 had been this one (https://goo.gl/maps/NArU4SLg3Gw) along US-11 (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=VA19610771). Guess it survived because of not being along a numbered route. I'm going to have to make a note to go there and try to get a picture next time I'm down that way if I have the time, and if nobody reports it as being gone.
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on June 25, 2016, 08:24:17 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 22, 2016, 04:22:50 PM
Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2016, 04:02:08 PM
Contrast this to a state like Virginia where you may find some for I-81, but you will never find one for I-77 as the last was replaced several years ago.
Not that it changes the meaning of your thoughts, but as of Sept 2015 there was still at least 1 state-named I-77 shield:
https://goo.gl/maps/592CmGCN9KS2
Wow, nice find there. Thought that the last one for I-77 had been this one (https://goo.gl/maps/NArU4SLg3Gw) along US-11 (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=VA19610771). Guess it survived because of not being along a numbered route. I'm going to have to make a note to go there and try to get a picture next time I'm down that way if I have the time, and if nobody reports it as being gone.
Well if it's gone I did get a half-way decent picture of it in 2007...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Foldsigns%2Foldwytheville.jpg&hash=f7c9736955245f09a9705e870be1b0fe7399a603)
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 25, 2016, 11:17:37 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on June 25, 2016, 08:24:17 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 22, 2016, 04:22:50 PM
Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2016, 04:02:08 PM
Contrast this to a state like Virginia where you may find some for I-81, but you will never find one for I-77 as the last was replaced several years ago.
Not that it changes the meaning of your thoughts, but as of Sept 2015 there was still at least 1 state-named I-77 shield:
https://goo.gl/maps/592CmGCN9KS2
Wow, nice find there. Thought that the last one for I-77 had been this one (https://goo.gl/maps/NArU4SLg3Gw) along US-11 (//www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=VA19610771). Guess it survived because of not being along a numbered route. I'm going to have to make a note to go there and try to get a picture next time I'm down that way if I have the time, and if nobody reports it as being gone.
Well if it's gone I did get a half-way decent picture of it in 2007...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vahighways.com%2Foldsigns%2Foldwytheville.jpg&hash=f7c9736955245f09a9705e870be1b0fe7399a603)
If I get to make my county-collecting trip to South Carolina, I'll be in Wytheville. (Possibly overnighting in the area.) I'll try to remember to get a photo. Unfortunately it'll be in the afternoon and that faces southwest.
Quote from: cl94 on June 24, 2016, 11:35:42 PM
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on June 24, 2016, 09:11:33 PM
Quote from: cl94 on June 21, 2016, 05:36:19 PM
Quote from: Alex on June 21, 2016, 05:12:34 PM
While Seattle's city department occasionally crafts state named shields, I'd still say the state should be red. Maybe hatch work for the state, add another color category for states with local jurisdictions still posting them, or just put an orange dot over Seattle :p
Vermont still has quite a few state name shields around, even with the mass replacement. Noticed a bunch along I-91 when I was through there this weekend.
Ooooh I'd love to know where? PM me if you wish.
I-91 south of I-89, SB side. Don't know about NB. One is immediately south of I-89 (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6345511,-72.3393807,3a,50.6y,253.86h,75.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swNqgQtZO9NTIqsrg-zNKCw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). As you can see, it is in very good shape.
Saw a few northbound when I was there a few years ago.
I have seen state named shields on both I-95 and I-40 (or roads leading up to them) in North Carolina over the recent months but they are few and far between to be sure. Although a small number of those were in good enough shape to be classified as recent installs and not left over relics, I am not sure if that alone would be good enough to change your ranking from none to occasionally.
Quote from: slorydn1 on June 26, 2016, 11:13:31 AM
I have seen state named shields on both I-95 and I-40 (or roads leading up to them) in North Carolina over the recent months but they are few and far between to be sure. Although a small number of those were in good enough shape to be classified as recent installs and not left over relics, I am not sure if that alone would be good enough to change your ranking from none to occasionally.
The none could be amended to "none with very few exceptions". There is the infamous "State" shield assembly in TN, and Bickendan's post upthread about a state named shield in Oregon adds at least one for the state. But otherwise in states like those and in NC, finding state named shields is so extremely rare that it might as well be "none." I-26 for instance has one known shield, and that's an NPS based assembly. The newish I-540 that was installed in the 2000s by Raleigh has already been replaced, so even contractor errors don't always have a long life span in neutered states. Whatever paulthemapguy decides for the map description is fine with me. :)
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 22, 2016, 04:22:50 PM
Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2016, 04:02:08 PM
Contrast this to a state like Virginia where you may find some for I-81, but you will never find one for I-77 as the last was replaced several years ago.
Not that it changes the meaning of your thoughts, but as of Sept 2015 there was still at least 1 state-named I-77 shield:
https://goo.gl/maps/592CmGCN9KS2
Nice find. I recall that the one in Wytheville previously referenced by James was the last one. At the time, I read that there were none left...glad to know that there is.
Do any states put state named shields on BGSs? I ask because, though I've seen plenty of standalone state named shields in NJ and PA, I am pretty sure I've never seen one on an overhead sign (same goes for county routes in NJ. They're all neutered on overheads).
Quote from: bzakharin on June 27, 2016, 09:54:22 AM
Do any states put state named shields on BGSs? I ask because, though I've seen plenty of standalone state named shields in NJ and PA, I am pretty sure I've never seen one on an overhead sign (same goes for county routes in NJ. They're all neutered on overheads).
More recently Mississippi and Utah have some regular uses of state named shields on guide signage. Otherwise the placement of them on green signs is somewhat random and generally not a standard practice.
doesnt Maine do that?
Quote from: Alex on June 27, 2016, 09:41:09 AM
There is the infamous "State" shield assembly in TN...
Anyone got a photo of that?
Quote from: mariethefoxy on June 27, 2016, 10:53:24 AM
doesnt Maine do that?
They did for a time, and they sometimes still do, but it's not standard. When MaineDOT swapped I-95 onto the Maine Turnpike north of Falmouth (practically deleting I-495, making it unsigned on the Falmouth Spur) and extended I-295 to Gardiner, they slapped on replacement shields over the old ones on the BGSs that included the state name. On what was I-495, MaineDOT used 3-digit state named I-95 shields to cover the old 495 shields.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6002/5917439496_56a8d15d5f_z.jpg)
What it looked like before (photo from AARoads, from 2003)...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.interstate-guide.com%2Fimages495%2Fi-495_me_wt_05.jpg&hash=8c2fdb038b53fdbb7f7d0b2c919bdaa2bc82fc3d)
Quote from: freebrickproductions on June 27, 2016, 06:29:22 PM
Quote from: Alex on June 27, 2016, 09:41:09 AM
There is the infamous "State" shield assembly in TN...
Anyone got a photo of that?
http://aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=TN20140751
Quote from: bzakharin on June 27, 2016, 09:54:22 AM
Do any states put state named shields on BGSs? I ask because, though I've seen plenty of standalone state named shields in NJ and PA, I am pretty sure I've never seen one on an overhead sign (same goes for county routes in NJ. They're all neutered on overheads).
PA does have a few on overhead signs. I know of a few for I-81 (https://goo.gl/maps/a75paFqnqhT2) (starting with that BGS and I think the next two also have them), and one for I-279 (https://goo.gl/maps/fkpPS1E9q722) (however, it's on PA-28).
Quote from: bzakharin on June 27, 2016, 09:54:22 AM
Do any states put state named shields on BGSs? I ask because, though I've seen plenty of standalone state named shields in NJ and PA, I am pretty sure I've never seen one on an overhead sign (same goes for county routes in NJ. They're all neutered on overheads).
Dis-regarding the little-green signs with all the state-named shields in Seattle, there are a couple of BGS' with state-named interstate shields in Washington:
This one is in Tukwila (very faded, see right BGS), EB along the South Boeing Access Road:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvGhbYbU.png&hash=d449fe002225a01d5c1928a59d2c55a458a0d5f1)
And this one is in suburban Pierce County (likely the last state-named shield in Pierce County), SB along Canyon Road as it approaches WA-512:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKBUJ0nn.png&hash=150d831195d0248bb37c84f4d5ebd7e04f6f5a59)
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on June 28, 2016, 05:57:10 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on June 27, 2016, 09:54:22 AM
Do any states put state named shields on BGSs? I ask because, though I've seen plenty of standalone state named shields in NJ and PA, I am pretty sure I've never seen one on an overhead sign (same goes for county routes in NJ. They're all neutered on overheads).
PA does have a few on overhead signs. I know of a few for I-81 (https://goo.gl/maps/a75paFqnqhT2) (starting with that BGS and I think the next two also have them), and one for I-279 (https://goo.gl/maps/fkpPS1E9q722) (however, it's on PA-28).
I saw a few in the vicinity of Breezewood today for I-70 and I-76.
Quote from: bzakharin on June 27, 2016, 09:54:22 AM
Do any states put state named shields on BGSs? I ask because, though I've seen plenty of standalone state named shields in NJ and PA, I am pretty sure I've never seen one on an overhead sign (same goes for county routes in NJ. They're all neutered on overheads).
Iowa used to, though they seem to have taken a good number down before the streetview vans went through.
Quote from: bzakharin on June 27, 2016, 09:54:22 AM
Do any states put state named shields on BGSs? I ask because, though I've seen plenty of standalone state named shields in NJ and PA, I am pretty sure I've never seen one on an overhead sign (same goes for county routes in NJ. They're all neutered on overheads).
DC used to do that (not "state" named, of course, but same idea). I'm not sure if any overhead ones still exist, other than one LGS, but there's at least one wall-mounted BGS with "District of Columbia" spelled out. There have been a lot of sign replacements in DC in the past few years, especially with I-695 finally making an appearance, and that's resulted in the loss of most of the "D.C."-named shields.
Quote from: cl94 on June 28, 2016, 09:22:55 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on June 28, 2016, 05:57:10 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on June 27, 2016, 09:54:22 AM
Do any states put state named shields on BGSs? I ask because, though I've seen plenty of standalone state named shields in NJ and PA, I am pretty sure I've never seen one on an overhead sign (same goes for county routes in NJ. They're all neutered on overheads).
PA does have a few on overhead signs. I know of a few for I-81 (https://goo.gl/maps/a75paFqnqhT2) (starting with that BGS and I think the next two also have them), and one for I-279 (https://goo.gl/maps/fkpPS1E9q722) (however, it's on PA-28).
I saw a few in the vicinity of Breezewood today for I-70 and I-76.
I'll give a third vote for Pennsylvania, although as has been mentioned, it's not with any regularity, and the state-named shields on guide signs are well outnumbered by neutered ones–even more so as time goes by. A few examples that I recall offhand:
Many of the guide-mounted I-80 shields on US 15 near New Columbia had state names up until about a 5-10 years ago. Here's one barely legible example from 2009: https://goo.gl/maps/bvGotmob5SK2 Most of these guides were replaced by Clearview monstrosities around 2010, at which time the shields were neutered (and given supersized digits).
Many of the I-180 guide signs through the City of Williamsport featured state-named shields until back-to-back reconstructions of both the Market Street Bridge and I-180 itself resulted in numerous '70s-era button copy signs being replaced.
On US 22 at PA 33 near Easton–directing those who lost track of I-78 west of Allentown back on course: https://goo.gl/maps/R2USwg3L1yL2
Though not exactly guide signs, many US and state routes intersecting I-80 are posted with blue signs just prior to the interchange area alerting motorists to the presence of highway advisory radio on I-80. Without exception, every one of these that I've seen has a state-named shield. Here's one: https://goo.gl/maps/VCNXpaaxQXE2
Quote from: jakeroot on June 28, 2016, 08:27:24 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on June 27, 2016, 09:54:22 AM
Do any states put state named shields on BGSs? I ask because, though I've seen plenty of standalone state named shields in NJ and PA, I am pretty sure I've never seen one on an overhead sign (same goes for county routes in NJ. They're all neutered on overheads).
Dis-regarding the little-green signs with all the state-named shields in Seattle, there are a couple of BGS' with state-named interstate shields in Washington:
This one is in Tukwila (very faded, see right BGS), EB along the South Boeing Access Road:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvGhbYbU.png&hash=d449fe002225a01d5c1928a59d2c55a458a0d5f1)
And this one is in suburban Pierce County (likely the last state-named shield in Pierce County), SB along Canyon Road as it approaches WA-512:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKBUJ0nn.png&hash=150d831195d0248bb37c84f4d5ebd7e04f6f5a59)
But for Washington, it has not been standard practice for a long time. I'd venture to guess that the signs on Boeing Access Rd date to when I-5 first opened there in 1967.
Yummm, button copy. :D
I noticed the I-80 signs today as well when I was cutting over to US 219 after clinching I-99. Quite a few. Other than I-99, I saw a ton of state name shields for most of the PA Interstates I was on today, whether they be stand-alone or on larger signs.
White neutered signs definitely outnumber non-neutered, there are more than enough to be noticeable. Heck, Breezewood alone might have more state name shields than all of Upstate New York.
Quote from: Alex on June 23, 2016, 05:00:41 PM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on June 23, 2016, 04:42:18 PM
I am not trying to pick this apart, I am just having a hard time differentiating the yellow and the green states since in my experience, I would consider them the same. Little help.
Green - neutered shields are rare
Yellow - mostly state name, but plenty of neutered mixed in
I'd put Colorado as a yellow state then. I have seen some newer neutered signs along I-70, but they don't look like they are a part of a massive replacement program.
Bonus points for Colorado for using state named shields on many of their BGSs.
Quote from: bzakharin on June 27, 2016, 09:54:22 AM
Do any states put state named shields on BGSs? I ask because, though I've seen plenty of standalone state named shields in NJ and PA, I am pretty sure I've never seen one on an overhead sign (same goes for county routes in NJ. They're all neutered on overheads).
This was put up early last year:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0065399,-75.1938061,3a,75y,220.47h,104.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shuBYsNfVGQM2UXiJHoJxQA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: cl94 on June 24, 2016, 11:35:42 PM
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on June 24, 2016, 09:11:33 PM
Quote from: cl94 on June 21, 2016, 05:36:19 PM
Quote from: Alex on June 21, 2016, 05:12:34 PM
While Seattle's city department occasionally crafts state named shields, I'd still say the state should be red. Maybe hatch work for the state, add another color category for states with local jurisdictions still posting them, or just put an orange dot over Seattle :p
Vermont still has quite a few state name shields around, even with the mass replacement. Noticed a bunch along I-91 when I was through there this weekend.
Ooooh I'd love to know where? PM me if you wish.
I-91 south of I-89, SB side. Don't know about NB. One is immediately south of I-89 (https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6345511,-72.3393807,3a,50.6y,253.86h,75.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swNqgQtZO9NTIqsrg-zNKCw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). As you can see, it is in very good shape.
And also on the endangered list. VTrans has a signing project slated that stretch of I-91 next year.
Regarding I-91 mainline shields...I can't think of any offhand that remain on northbound I-91. Southbound still has a few as cl94 noted, but most of those are in the section undergoing sign replacement next year.
Quote from: ekt8750 on June 30, 2016, 03:17:37 PMThis was put up early last year:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0065399,-75.1938061,3a,75y,220.47h,104.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shuBYsNfVGQM2UXiJHoJxQA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Actually, those BGS are at least now almost 5 years old and I mentioned those in Page 4 of this thread.
Sept. 2011 GSV of those BGS' (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0066966,-75.1937031,3a,75y,216.63h,87.16t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sRwlGMsX-lA2cv04_JVfLhg!2e0!5s20110901T000000!7i13312!8i6656)
Quote from: PHLBOS on June 30, 2016, 04:11:54 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on June 30, 2016, 03:17:37 PMThis was put up early last year:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0065399,-75.1938061,3a,75y,220.47h,104.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shuBYsNfVGQM2UXiJHoJxQA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Actually, those BGS are at least now almost 5 years old and I mentioned those in Page 4 of this thread.
Sept. 2011 GSV of those BGS' (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0066966,-75.1937031,3a,75y,216.63h,87.16t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sRwlGMsX-lA2cv04_JVfLhg!2e0!5s20110901T000000!7i13312!8i6656)
The old signs (https://goo.gl/maps/gTmP781mFju) at this location looked a lot better. :)
Skimmed through the thread and tried to update things according to people's requests.
Alex, thanks for trying to be helpful in making this map as accurate as possible. I'm thinking of putting an orange dot on Seattle and converting Washington state to red...and doing something similar for NYC. If NYC had a colored dot, what color would it be? In other words, how common are state-named shields in NYC?
Also, I think it's interesting that there are 4 blue states and 4 brown states, which are circumstantially opposites XD
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7581/27730057580_a7561cb811_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JfpN23)
How common are state-name shields in NYC? One borough probably has more than all of Upstate at this point. R11 hasn't replaced many shields and NYCDOT occasionally installs a new one. It is the only part of New York that should be orange. After the sign replacements, I can count all of the ones Upstate that I can confirm on one hand. There are probably more, but their number is so small that you have to go looking for them in most cases. Unless it has been replaced within the past year (very possible), I know of one that remains on a NYSDOT road Upstate (US 20/NY 5 EB at Exit 58).
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 30, 2016, 10:40:24 PM
I'm thinking of putting an orange dot on Seattle and converting Washington state to red...and doing something similar for NYC.
I wouldn't. The map would start getting really busy if you started to put dots + city names wherever there's an oddity. Try and come up with another pattern...or, just stick to using orange. Maybe burnt orange, signifying "virtually none, except in specific locales"?
I don't know if Alabama would be green or yellow. The vast majority of the shields are state-named, but if you drive on any interstate in the state, you pretty much have a guaranteed chance of seeing at least one neutered shield that isn't on a BGS somewhere along and/or near the route, at least from what I've seen.
I'd classify Mississippi as orange...definitely not blue. They used state-name shields for awhile, then stopped for 10-15 years or so, then slowly started it up again.
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 01, 2016, 02:50:25 AM
I don't know if Alabama would be green or yellow. The vast majority of the shields are state-named, but if you drive on any interstate in the state, you pretty much have a guaranteed chance of seeing at least one neutered shield that isn't on a BGS somewhere along and/or near the route, at least from what I've seen.
I know of none for Interstate 10. There were at least three on the mainline in the early 2000s.
Quote from: froggie on July 01, 2016, 09:16:53 AM
I'd classify Mississippi as orange...definitely not blue. They used state-name shields for awhile, then stopped for 10-15 years or so, then slowly started it up again.
There are still several neutered shields in Mississippi, but the bulk (outside I-220) are state-named.
For instance, the only neutered shields I saw for I-10 on the mainline were the double shields posted by the Ocean Springs exit.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 30, 2016, 10:40:24 PM
Skimmed through the thread and tried to update things according to people's requests.
Alex, thanks for trying to be helpful in making this map as accurate as possible. I'm thinking of putting an orange dot on Seattle and converting Washington state to red...and doing something similar for NYC. If NYC had a colored dot, what color would it be? In other words, how common are state-named shields in NYC?
Also, I think it's interesting that there are 4 blue states and 4 brown states, which are circumstantially opposites XD
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7581/27730057580_a7561cb811_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JfpN23)
The blue color was more for states that re-added the state name to their signing policy. Obviously it will take several years for the ratio to switch from mostly neutered to mostly state named (Louisiana is a good case for this as I-59 is still devoid of a state named shield). Prior to 2009 or so, there had been only Colorado to re-add state names, and that was circa 2002.
For brown, Iowa in particular was very consistent with using all state names, and they were done with the classic specs no less. Then they bypassed the 1970 standard state named shield design and went straight to neutered. So the brown is more to show that a state that went from 100% (or nearly 100%) signing state named shields to 0% new state named shields. For Missouri, they had neutered shields here and there, but now are 100% neutered as well.
Quote from: froggie on July 01, 2016, 09:16:53 AM
I'd classify Mississippi as orange...definitely not blue. They used state-name shields for awhile, then stopped for 10-15 years or so, then slowly started it up again.
I could make the map more "pure" by eliminating the blue/brown and coloring every state strictly according to the frequency of state-named signs. I could have a sliding scale, a spectrum from green to red, kind of like how weather stations display their doppler radar pictures...since people want to split between colors so much on this thread :D (what do you expect from a bunch of analytical-types, which I am also so I know how it is)
Quote from: Alex on July 01, 2016, 09:35:56 AM
The blue color was more for states that re-added the state name to their signing policy. Obviously it will take several years for the ratio to switch from mostly neutered to mostly state named (Louisiana is a good case for this as I-59 is still devoid of a state named shield). Prior to 2009 or so, there had been only Colorado to re-add state names, and that was circa 2002.
For brown, Iowa in particular was very consistent with using all state names, and they were done with the classic specs no less. Then they bypassed the 1970 standard state named shield design and went straight to neutered. So the brown is more to show that a state that went from 100% (or nearly 100%) signing state named shields to 0% new state named shields. For Missouri, they had neutered shields here and there, but now are 100% neutered as well.
See my above statement...plus, I realize there have been states that flip-flopped. For blue/brown I'm choosing whichever changeover was the most recent. If a state changed from one style of sign to the other long ago, it'll probably be colored according to the red-orange-yellow-green scale. Goes back to my question of "how recent is recent?" But yeah you're exactly right...it takes a while for the ratio to adjust once the switch is made.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on July 01, 2016, 10:22:33 AM
I could make the map more "pure" by eliminating the blue/brown and coloring every state strictly according to the frequency of state-named signs. I could have a sliding scale, a spectrum from green to red, kind of like how weather stations display their doppler radar pictures...since people want to split between colors so much on this thread :D (what do you expect from a bunch of analytical-types, which I am also so I know how it is)
I think that'd be a lot easier.
ConnDOT did not use state-name shields for I-395s most recent sign replacement.
To date, these are the only "off-interstate" VA I-495 shields that I know still stand:
Northbound Gallows Rd approaching VA-7 (https://goo.gl/maps/jzrVnBoioYN2)
VA-7 eastbound at I-495 (https://goo.gl/maps/AcMswB8X1JR2)
VA-7 westbound at I-495 (https://goo.gl/maps/g4f8K8gN9uy)
Quote from: ekt8750 on June 30, 2016, 03:17:37 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on June 27, 2016, 09:54:22 AM
Do any states put state named shields on BGSs? I ask because, though I've seen plenty of standalone state named shields in NJ and PA, I am pretty sure I've never seen one on an overhead sign (same goes for county routes in NJ. They're all neutered on overheads).
This was put up early last year:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0065399,-75.1938061,3a,75y,220.47h,104.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shuBYsNfVGQM2UXiJHoJxQA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Wow, so close to me too, but never had any reason to be coming from that direction
there are a lot of plain interstate shields on I-95 and 91 in CT, I dont think they put state named ones up anymore.
As for PA, state named shields are rare there nowadays, I only spotted a couple here and there but NONE on any of the mainline interstates and none at all for I-99 that I saw while driving back from Pittsburgh
Quote from: bzakharin on July 06, 2016, 07:31:02 PM
Quote from: ekt8750 on June 30, 2016, 03:17:37 PM
Quote from: bzakharin on June 27, 2016, 09:54:22 AM
Do any states put state named shields on BGSs? I ask because, though I've seen plenty of standalone state named shields in NJ and PA, I am pretty sure I've never seen one on an overhead sign (same goes for county routes in NJ. They're all neutered on overheads).
This was put up early last year:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0065399,-75.1938061,3a,75y,220.47h,104.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1shuBYsNfVGQM2UXiJHoJxQA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Wow, so close to me too, but never had any reason to be coming from that direction
Look closely, this one is on I-81 SB in Wilkes-Barre:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/768/22093839320_861234b123_k.jpg)
Quote from: HTM Duke on July 05, 2016, 11:17:49 PM
To date, these are the only "off-interstate" VA I-495 shields that I know still stand:
Northbound Gallows Rd approaching VA-7 (https://goo.gl/maps/jzrVnBoioYN2)
VA-7 eastbound at I-495 (https://goo.gl/maps/AcMswB8X1JR2)
VA-7 westbound at I-495 (https://goo.gl/maps/g4f8K8gN9uy)
I photographed the one on VA 7 eastbound today...
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And I saw the one going westbound as well, but I didn't stop to get a photo of that one.
I can confirm that the one in Wytheville is still standing (photographed yesterday)
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A few state-named interstate shields on BGSs here in Alabama:
(This first one was photographed by my brother, don't see too many mainline state-named interstate shields mounted on BGSs here!)
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7304/28151992332_ccfea8c3e6.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JTGjw9)State-named I-65 Shield on BGS (https://flic.kr/p/JTGjw9) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8589/28221762006_e7536632c3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JZRUBy)State-named I-85 Shields on BGSs (https://flic.kr/p/JZRUBy) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8669/27640420003_b4e4b833d5.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J7unTz)State-named I-85 Shields on BGSs (https://flic.kr/p/J7unTz) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8813/28221761756_62c1024eb8.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JZRUxf)State-named I-85 Shield on a BGS (https://flic.kr/p/JZRUxf) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
I cannot find any of the two I-124 signs that were left in Chattanooga. I look everytime I am that way. I would guess they are long gone by now. I know one had the state name on it.
There are still some in Kentucky - including this pair in beautiful light at the former Welcome Center on southboung I-71/75.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdevaldragon.com%2Fshare%2FDeval-Interstate.jpg&hash=4dab6665e6e57c67decf2186676fab6e139ab096)
I came across this set of I-465 shields this afternoon along Emerson Avenue in Indianapolis. Not too many of these left it seems...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FN8AInJml.jpg&hash=6d9669dabc93f8dcfb1ec1ff24502ecb3fe3961d)
Grabbed this one the other day. Add in a couple of old US route shields for good measure and we have something beautiful. Might be the last state name I-787 shield left.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/9/8198/28579725241_4c1f19dd64_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KxuyBt)
Quote from: freebrickproductions on July 12, 2016, 12:32:41 AM
A few state-named interstate shields on BGSs here in Alabama:
(This first one was photographed by my brother, don't see too many mainline state-named interstate shields mounted on BGSs here!)
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7304/28151992332_ccfea8c3e6.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JTGjw9)State-named I-65 Shield on BGS (https://flic.kr/p/JTGjw9) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8589/28221762006_e7536632c3.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JZRUBy)State-named I-85 Shields on BGSs (https://flic.kr/p/JZRUBy) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8669/27640420003_b4e4b833d5.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J7unTz)State-named I-85 Shields on BGSs (https://flic.kr/p/J7unTz) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8813/28221761756_62c1024eb8.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JZRUxf)State-named I-85 Shield on a BGS (https://flic.kr/p/JZRUxf) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
I don't recall that CR 17 blue pentagon sign off of I-65 either. I remember seeing a couple along I-65 but just not that one.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 30, 2016, 10:40:24 PM
Skimmed through the thread and tried to update things according to people's requests.
Alex, thanks for trying to be helpful in making this map as accurate as possible. I'm thinking of putting an orange dot on Seattle and converting Washington state to red...and doing something similar for NYC. If NYC had a colored dot, what color would it be? In other words, how common are state-named shields in NYC?
Also, I think it's interesting that there are 4 blue states and 4 brown states, which are circumstantially opposites XD
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7581/27730057580_a7561cb811_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JfpN23)
I noticed that Colorado had newer looking shields along I-70 with the state name. Also, driving from Arizona to Maine recently, and from Illinois going east, I saw a grand total of ONE state-named shield (off I-84 in Connecticut) before getting into Maine.
Quote from: swbrotha100 on August 02, 2016, 09:43:33 PM
Also, driving from Arizona to Maine recently, and from Illinois going east, I saw a grand total of ONE state-named shield (off I-84 in Connecticut) before getting into Maine.
I don't know how the heck you went, but neutered shields in Connecticut are relatively rare.
Quote from: cl94 on August 02, 2016, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: swbrotha100 on August 02, 2016, 09:43:33 PM
Also, driving from Arizona to Maine recently, and from Illinois going east, I saw a grand total of ONE state-named shield (off I-84 in Connecticut) before getting into Maine.
I don't know how the heck you went, but neutered shields in Connecticut are relatively rare.
Neutered shields are as rare in Connecticut as named shields are in, say, Ohio. :rolleyes:
P.S. How did 'neutered' shields get their name?
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on August 02, 2016, 10:56:48 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 02, 2016, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: swbrotha100 on August 02, 2016, 09:43:33 PM
Also, driving from Arizona to Maine recently, and from Illinois going east, I saw a grand total of ONE state-named shield (off I-84 in Connecticut) before getting into Maine.
I don't know how the heck you went, but neutered shields in Connecticut are relatively rare.
Neutered shields are as rare in Connecticut as named shields are in, say, Ohio. :rolleyes:
P.S. How did 'neutered' shields get their name?
Andy made it up back when we first met in person in 2000.
Found a state-named I-110 in Baton Rouge:
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/9/8897/28136804884_cd90202d66_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JSmtPA)
Quote from: cl94 on August 01, 2016, 11:54:53 PM
Grabbed this one the other day. Add in a couple of old US route shields for good measure and we have something beautiful. Might be the last state name I-787 shield left.
Dang. I thought the last one was the one they removed from SB I-787 after the on-ramp from the Plaza.
Quote from: Rothman on August 05, 2016, 02:20:49 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 01, 2016, 11:54:53 PM
Grabbed this one the other day. Add in a couple of old US route shields for good measure and we have something beautiful. Might be the last state name I-787 shield left.
Dang. I thought the last one was the one they removed from SB I-787 after the on-ramp from the Plaza.
So did I. Granted, it's not in a spot that sees a lot of traffic.
I believe neutered shields should be used if the Interstate is federally maintained. Since there are no such freeways, all Interstate shields should carry the state name. I'm looking at you, states colored red or brown in the map. Also, find a way to bring back state names to the US route shield for the same reason.
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on August 07, 2016, 05:29:54 AM
Also, find a way to bring back state names to the US route shield for the same reason.
Have to work on bringing "US" itself back outside of California first lol
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on August 07, 2016, 05:29:54 AM
I believe neutered shields should be used if the Interstate is federally maintained. Since there are no such freeways, all Interstate shields should carry the state name. I'm looking at you, states colored red or brown in the map. Also, find a way to bring back state names to the US route shield for the same reason.
I don't think that's going to clarify anything for the general public, who don't know that federal and Interstate routes are maintained by state entities. Either people know it or they don't, and the text on road signs isn't going to help people to know it.
Quote from: Alex on June 27, 2016, 09:41:09 AM
Quote from: slorydn1 on June 26, 2016, 11:13:31 AM
I have seen state named shields on both I-95 and I-40 (or roads leading up to them) in North Carolina over the recent months but they are few and far between to be sure. Although a small number of those were in good enough shape to be classified as recent installs and not left over relics, I am not sure if that alone would be good enough to change your ranking from none to occasionally.
The none could be amended to "none with very few exceptions". There is the infamous "State" shield assembly in TN, and Bickendan's post upthread about a state named shield in Oregon adds at least one for the state. But otherwise in states like those and in NC, finding state named shields is so extremely rare that it might as well be "none." I-26 for instance has one known shield, and that's an NPS based assembly. The newish I-540 that was installed in the 2000s by Raleigh has already been replaced, so even contractor errors don't always have a long life span in neutered states. Whatever paulthemapguy decides for the map description is fine with me. :)
The Knightdale NC I-540s were replaced when 540 went to 70 mph. They replaced ALL 540 shields and 65 mph signs at that time (there were some guide 540 shields - dating from when it was still a future route - around Leesville and Creedmoor Roads that were replaced at the same time.. The replacement was part of a larger project rather than a one off correction. The November 2014 replacement of the 95 NC shields between exits 138 and 141 were specific to those signs only.
Quote from: cl94 on August 02, 2016, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: swbrotha100 on August 02, 2016, 09:43:33 PM
Also, driving from Arizona to Maine recently, and from Illinois going east, I saw a grand total of ONE state-named shield (off I-84 in Connecticut) before getting into Maine.
I don't know how the heck you went, but neutered shields in Connecticut are relatively rare.
I traveled all of I-84 in CT. Maybe I was distracted. I just remember some long construction zones and heavy traffic.
Quote from: swbrotha100 on August 09, 2016, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: cl94 on August 02, 2016, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: swbrotha100 on August 02, 2016, 09:43:33 PM
Also, driving from Arizona to Maine recently, and from Illinois going east, I saw a grand total of ONE state-named shield (off I-84 in Connecticut) before getting into Maine.
I don't know how the heck you went, but neutered shields in Connecticut are relatively rare.
I traveled all of I-84 in CT. Maybe I was distracted. I just remember some long construction zones and heavy traffic.
I did EB west of I-91 the other day and I can confirm that there are several neutered shields in that direction. That section actually has most of the neutered shields I have seen in the entire state.
Here are three on Interstate 81 northbound in the eastern panhandle of West Virginia.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxU1MoFQ.jpg%3F1&hash=64641133307ded888ae811a3b6490ea3b508127b)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FedMnCQd.jpg%3F1&hash=af83faf57bfc91e865cc5561755b0c4e2b02bfaa)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fhz42zlm.jpg%3F1&hash=41dee0b32b16fc27b45a9236648699b2622e6aeb)
Of course, I found the opposite earlier today- a NEUTERED I-295 shield leaving the Freeport, Maine parking garage. If you weren't aware, all standalone shields in Maine get the name, as do most BGS shields.
Found this state-named I-65 shield in Franklin, KY yesterday:
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8633/28894453246_8e4fa5cc48_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/L2iCho)State-named I-65 Shield (https://flic.kr/p/L2iCho) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
As a side note, this was also my first trip to Kentucky that I can remember.
Just back from a week long 5,000 mile trip, some notes:
Idaho is down to just one known state named shield as Jeff's I-86 at American Falls was replaced within the last month.
Finding a state named shield in Montana is next to impossible. Outside the few in Missoula, we found just one in Laurel and could not locate the last I-15 Jake spotted north of Shelby. The I-94's Jake found appear to be replaced as are the remaining ones in Billings.
South Dakota has probably a dozen or so for I-90 and two for I-29 in Brookings.
Colorado has a surprisingly higher number of neutered shields than I expected. I based my previous assessment of state named shields being nearly 100% from Jeff years ago, but now its more of like maybe 60/40?
The neutered shields in ND were mostly older installs, with the bulk showing the state name
Wyoming has a lot more neutered shields in place now as well. They used to be nearly 100% state named.
I caught four today eastbound on U.S. Route 322 in southern New Jersey. The interstate was I-295.
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Hell has frozen over because I found one at home in Maryland! This is I-83 north around the Northern Parkway interchange in Baltimore.
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Found these Nebraska state-named I-80 shields in Gothenburg earlier today. Apparently there were two more around town that I didn't know about, but at least I was able to get photos of these two.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHgpbO1Ol.jpg&hash=568bff05a45255679e8fe5e7836b075832e4a124)
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Fredericksburg, Virginia
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I didn't get pictures, but there's a bunch at I-87 Exit 33 along US 9 and NY 22. Some of the only state name shields remaining for I-87 along state-maintained roads and the only ones I know of actually at an interchange. There are also BGSes on US 9 referring to I-87 as the "Adirondack Northway".
A couple I spotted on my recent midwest trip:
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Beloit
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I saw a few of these in downtown Minneapolis
Near Front Royal, Virginia.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBtHPojS.jpg%3F1&hash=70b64952da2b617d5f4b08dc2092ac760cb6527b)
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8069/29240311006_f641ab3b55_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LxSeKd)State-named I-81 shields. Main Ave. Scranton, PA. (https://flic.kr/p/LxSeKd) by mergingtraffic (https://www.flickr.com/photos/98731835@N05/), on Flickr
Scranton, PA
Quote from: epzik8 on August 30, 2016, 09:06:49 PM
Near Front Royal, Virginia.
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What's the location? I'd like to get a pic if I'm down there again.
^^^
There's a metric crap-ton of state-named I-66 markers along VA 55.
Speaking of Virginia, this assembly somehow survived a big replacement project along I-81 in the southwestern part of the state.
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14233148_10154361426821469_4285088734100217925_n.jpg?oh=b4004a04ec88125a9d8c968c0da6ac8b&oe=5847C162)
Spotted another I-4 Florida shield in Lakeland this morning:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/gallery/10_07_09_16_6_34_25.jpeg)
West Virginia again. West Virginia is one of the best states for this.
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Feel that this old Georgia state-named shield belongs in here:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5542/29732295384_dab50499c0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MikMyu)Button-copy I-85 Sheild (https://flic.kr/p/MikMyu) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
An old original state named shield in downtown Grambling, LA.
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/1/772/21241868492_4a018853b3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/yn58rW)Near downtown Grambling, LA. (https://flic.kr/p/yn58rW) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr
And a new shield at the Industry exit, EB on ramp on LA 563:
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/1/426/18846960990_1f4fd5aa52_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uHrATh)20150621_165443 (https://flic.kr/p/uHrATh) by Jess Kilgore (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130771900@N08/), on Flickr
Finally spotted a state named shield for Interstate 59 in Louisiana last week:
(https://scontent.ftpa1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14642402_10154679117872948_7412979275567716044_n.jpg?oh=1596dd317742e9ea9ef8150a334de0a8&oe=5892D229)
Jeff has scoured the area during the last two years and I checked out the interchange at U.S. 11 and LA 1090 last year and none were posted yet. Checked all of the exits north of there last Wednesday before finding this one on the southbound mainline. There are no shields even posted at the Pearl River Turnaround, just two guide signs instead.
(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5836/30927709926_0155a970e3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/P7YAE3)State-named I-75 shield. US-41 and CR-884/FL-884 (https://flic.kr/p/P7YAE3) by mergingtraffic (https://www.flickr.com/photos/98731835@N05/), on Flickr
My father working on assignment for me in Florida spotted this for me. Thanks to Alex and Brent for the help!
Photographed 12 Nov 16 on US 20/NY 5 near the Silver Creek-Irving interchange entrance for the NYS Thruway.
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I think that's the last one in Region 5.
Quote from: upstatenyroads on November 13, 2016, 09:49:29 PM
Photographed 12 Nov 16 on US 20/NY 5 near the Silver Creek-Irving interchange entrance for the NYS Thruway.
Glad to see there's still one at that interchange. :)
While driving to Alabama yesterday, I noticed that Louisiana now has non-neutered reassurance signs starting after the Waverly exit (157) eastward all the way to the Mound exit (182). A couple of these had the state name at almost a microscopic size.
Quote from: cjk374 on November 18, 2016, 07:08:15 AM
While driving to Alabama yesterday, I noticed that Louisiana now has non-neutered reassurance signs starting after the Waverly exit (157) eastward all the way to the Mound exit (182). A couple of these had the state name at almost a microscopic size.
Jeff R. texted that a number of signs for the I-55/US 51 overlap were just replaced and now use state named shields. Some weird looking US 51 markers were added too.
He also wrote that at least one of the mainline I-12 shields has Louisiana in it now.
So did we ever finalize the map of state-named shield use? :spin:
Found another set of state named shields for Interstate 75 on Saturday:
https://twitter.com/AARoads/status/802574279455940608
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 30, 2016, 10:40:24 PM
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7581/27730057580_a7561cb811_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JfpN23)
This is the last iteration of the map--let me know if I should change anything
I'd say NY is virtually none. True there are some older signs with the state-name but as for new installs.....it's none.
2 more for the collection...
I-70 in Wheeling, WV
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/6/5771/31056951900_af331552af_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PjoZMW)
I-70 trailblazer with WV state name (https://flic.kr/p/PjoZMW) by Jon Dawson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmd41280/), on Flickr
I-70 in Claysville, PA
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5344/31056957960_ff68880d43_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Pjp2Aq)
I-70 sign w/ PA state name (https://flic.kr/p/Pjp2Aq) by Jon Dawson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmd41280/), on Flickr
Quote from: paulthemapguy on November 28, 2016, 09:52:21 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 30, 2016, 10:40:24 PM
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7581/27730057580_a7561cb811_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JfpN23)
This is the last iteration of the map--let me know if I should change anything
This map is pretty.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/gallery/21_12_12_16_2_12_36.jpeg)
Quote from: hbelkins on December 12, 2016, 02:16:35 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/gallery/21_12_12_16_2_12_36.jpeg)
some context here would help - on the interstate or something else,
Quote from: hbelkins on December 12, 2016, 02:16:35 PM
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/gallery/21_12_12_16_2_12_36.jpeg)
What is the age of this sign/photo? Was it taken in a work zone? Was it taken on the mainline or a side road?
This is a sign in the construction zone along IN 37 southbound just prior to where current I-69 begins on the south side of Bloomington. It's temporary, but I thought it was neat and was really surprised to come across it. I almost didn't get the camera out and the picture taken in time.
Last night while driving in the rain in Alexandria, LA what to my wandering eyes do appear? I-49 state-named shields...I counted 3...at the MacArthur interchange. Alas it was dark, it was raining, and the wife & daughter would not have been pleased with the stop. I will try to get a pic next time I'm down there.
Quote from: cjk374 on December 24, 2016, 10:38:43 AM
Last night while driving in the rain in Alexandria, LA what to my wandering eyes do appear? I-49 state-named shields...I counted 3...at the MacArthur interchange. Alas it was dark, it was raining, and the wife & daughter would not have been pleased with the stop. I will try to get a pic next time I'm down there.
Nearly all of the 49 shields have been replaced with state names. But mostly at approaches to exits and not on the mainline itself.
Quote from: bassoon1986 on December 24, 2016, 01:21:25 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on December 24, 2016, 10:38:43 AM
Last night while driving in the rain in Alexandria, LA what to my wandering eyes do appear? I-49 state-named shields...I counted 3...at the MacArthur interchange. Alas it was dark, it was raining, and the wife & daughter would not have been pleased with the stop. I will try to get a pic next time I'm down there.
Nearly all of the 49 shields have been replaced with state names. But mostly at approaches to exits and not on the mainline itself.
My exposure to I-49 is limited. I had no idea any shields had state names. Do you reckon we will ever see mainline shields with Louisiana's name on it? Even I-59 has one on the mainline now.
Quote from: cjk374 on December 24, 2016, 01:40:02 PM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on December 24, 2016, 01:21:25 PM
Quote from: cjk374 on December 24, 2016, 10:38:43 AM
Last night while driving in the rain in Alexandria, LA what to my wandering eyes do appear? I-49 state-named shields...I counted 3...at the MacArthur interchange. Alas it was dark, it was raining, and the wife & daughter would not have been pleased with the stop. I will try to get a pic next time I'm down there.
Nearly all of the 49 shields have been replaced with state names. But mostly at approaches to exits and not on the mainline itself.
My exposure to I-49 is limited. I had no idea any shields had state names. Do you reckon we will ever see mainline shields with Louisiana's name on it? Even I-59 has one on the mainline now.
Funny you should say this. I found one traveling to Bossier City for Christmas. I-49 has a mainline shield with a state name headed northbound. It is just north of the LA 485 Powhatan/Allen interchange (exit 148).
It's not a reassurance shield, but it does have the state name. It's also not cut-out (**jabs eye with pencil**). Whatever, I'll take it...
This assembly has existed only for a few years. No idea why it's 2di-width (though I do prefer it). Too bad it's not cutout! This would be a great sign.
https://goo.gl/uISB9S
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Spotted this I-44 OK shield in PA awhile back. Only recently showed up on StreetView (couldn't get a pic myself since was in the area because of a funeral back then, and haven't been back since).
https://goo.gl/maps/6KCSYMiBHz72
Some non-neutered LA I-49 shields have been showing up now in cities along the corridor. There's one now on Union Street (LA 182 North) in Opelousas at the intersection with Vine Street (US 190 eastbound). There's another one at the Creswell Lane interchange with I-49 (Creswell eastbound at the southbound ramp, at the left turn lane going into the onbound ramp to I-49 north). I'm guessing that these non-neuts will appear more and more as signs are replaced. Nothing on the BGS's, though.
A couple months ago I spotted a named I-35W shield on Anoka CR-17/Lexington Ave in Circle Pines. I wasn't driving and my friends wouldn't stop to let me get a picture (we were kind of in a hurry), but I can provide street view. (https://www.google.com/maps/@45.155937,-93.1632286,3a,24.2y,21.51h,85.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMiLDgG3mH3THCn4WKzNTBQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
They're quite rare in Minnesota now. This one's quite the survivor.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4201/34742154111_e554601b4a_c.jpg)
Granted, CT is king of state-named shields, but what stands out is the old specs of the I-91 shield.
I-79 WV shield at the intersection of US 19 and WV 100 in Westover...
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2903/33846202110_517fc388b1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TySCGN)
WV Route 100 southern terminus (https://flic.kr/p/TySCGN) by Jon Dawson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmd41280/), on Flickr
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on May 24, 2017, 06:56:11 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4201/34742154111_e554601b4a_c.jpg)
Granted, CT is king of state-named shields, but what stands out is the old specs of the I-91 shield.
Could have done without the Series E numerals on the 691 shield though.
How about this one?
(https://i.imgur.com/IfS06My.jpg)
But... but... I-95 doesn't go through DC!!!
Quote from: tckma on May 30, 2017, 12:09:37 PM
How about this one?
(https://i.imgur.com/IfS06My.jpg)
But... but... I-95 doesn't go through DC!!!
Oldie but a goodie.
Quote from: tckma on May 30, 2017, 12:09:37 PM
How about this one?
(https://i.imgur.com/IfS06My.jpg)
But... but... I-95 doesn't go through DC!!!
Ahem... yes it does. (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.792043,-77.0386106,16.25z)
But seriously though, that answers that question I've always had. Are there any other examples of DC-named Interstate shields that are known?
This is an interesting topic: state named trailblazer shields that lead to an interstate which is in another state-like the DC one above. Almost certainly that leads to I-95 in Maryland, but it says DC on the shield.
Quote from: roadguy2 on May 30, 2017, 06:09:14 PM
This is an interesting topic: state named trailblazer shields that lead to an interstate which is in another state-like the DC one above. Almost certainly that leads to I-95 in Maryland, but it says DC on the shield.
It reminds me of a sign from another thread. I didn't quite understand the problem, 'til someone pointed it out to me. The big green sign below has a California state-named shield on it. This makes sense, because the sign is in California. But, by the time you reach I-5 via US-199, you're in Oregon. So having "California" on the 5 shield is
technically incorrect, even though specifications at the time wouldn't have prevented this error from occurring (though I don't remember the specs of the time requiring overhead state named shields -- let's just pretend it was).
Original post: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=87.msg2206782#msg2206782
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Thinking about trip routing for a short excursion down to the Salem - Roanoke area brought back some memories. All of these were along westbound Selma - Low Moor Rd at the I-64 interchange:
Advance : https://goo.gl/maps/jeMZzhW35W12
I-64 east : https://goo.gl/maps/VhWZPiLwg4y
I-64 west : https://goo.gl/maps/CMSyhrCG2L42
And here's a shield for I-95 south along westbound Lorton Rd:
https://goo.gl/maps/jh6ttASZsB52
In other news, the LWS with the last VA I-395 shield on VA-236 west at I-395 has now been removed.
Quote from: jakeroot on May 30, 2017, 08:04:10 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on May 30, 2017, 06:09:14 PM
This is an interesting topic: state named trailblazer shields that lead to an interstate which is in another state-like the DC one above. Almost certainly that leads to I-95 in Maryland, but it says DC on the shield.
It reminds me of a sign from another thread. I didn't quite understand the problem, 'til someone pointed it out to me. The big green sign below has a California state-named shield on it. This makes sense, because the sign is in California. But, by the time you reach I-5 via US-199, you're in Oregon. So having "California" on the 5 shield is technically incorrect, even though specifications at the time wouldn't have prevented this error from occurring (though I don't remember the specs of the time requiring overhead state named shields -- let's just pretend it was).
Original post: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=87.msg2206782#msg2206782
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Although it's not an interstate shield, the same situation happens in Wendover, UT.
This sign is on the AAroads I-80 west guide.
(https://www.aaroads.com/west/utah080/i-080_wb_exit_001_03.jpg)
The sign is in Utah, so it's Utah spec, but the exit is in Nevada. Neither US-93 nor 93A enter Utah.
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 30, 2017, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: tckma on May 30, 2017, 12:09:37 PM
But... but... I-95 doesn't go through DC!!!
Ahem... yes it does. (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.792043,-77.0386106,16.25z)
Well, yes, I knew about THAT, but there's no way to get onto I-95 in DC from any point within DC without crossing into Maryland or Virginia first. So that would have to lead you first to I-95 in Virginia or in Maryland. Since it says "North" on the sign, and I took the photo somewhere near Eastern Market (because it was the only DC-named Interstate shield I'd seen before or since), I gather it was pointing drivers toward I-95 in Maryland. But once you're on I-95 in Maryland, there's no way to get to the DC portion of I-95 by going north, unless, you're the kind of masochist who fancies a complete, counterclockwise trip around the Beltway.
I took that photo in 2008, according to the posting date shown for it in my Facebook photo album. I wish I remembered where exactly it was, because I can't seem to find it on GMSV.
Quote from: tckma on June 01, 2017, 06:47:46 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 30, 2017, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: tckma on May 30, 2017, 12:09:37 PM
But... but... I-95 doesn't go through DC!!!
Ahem... yes it does. (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.792043,-77.0386106,16.25z)
Well, yes, I knew about THAT, but there's no way to get onto I-95 in DC from any point within DC without crossing into Maryland or Virginia first. So that would have to lead you first to I-95 in Virginia or in Maryland. Since it says "North" on the sign, and I took the photo somewhere near Eastern Market (because it was the only DC-named Interstate shield I'd seen before or since), I gather it was pointing drivers toward I-95 in Maryland. But once you're on I-95 in Maryland, there's no way to get to the DC portion of I-95 by going north, unless, you're the kind of masochist who fancies a complete, counterclockwise trip around the Beltway.
I took that photo in 2008, according to the posting date shown for it in my Facebook photo album. I wish I remembered where exactly it was, because I can't seem to find it on GMSV.
Given the age of that particular sign (early 70s); it was erected when I-395 was
still I-95 and
was proposed to continue northward to College Park, MD (I-95/495 interchange). When the designation changed; that sign was never altered/removed.
Quote from: PHLBOS on June 02, 2017, 09:14:16 AM
Quote from: tckma on June 01, 2017, 06:47:46 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 30, 2017, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: tckma on May 30, 2017, 12:09:37 PM
But... but... I-95 doesn't go through DC!!!
Ahem... yes it does. (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.792043,-77.0386106,16.25z)
Well, yes, I knew about THAT, but there's no way to get onto I-95 in DC from any point within DC without crossing into Maryland or Virginia first. So that would have to lead you first to I-95 in Virginia or in Maryland. Since it says "North" on the sign, and I took the photo somewhere near Eastern Market (because it was the only DC-named Interstate shield I'd seen before or since), I gather it was pointing drivers toward I-95 in Maryland. But once you're on I-95 in Maryland, there's no way to get to the DC portion of I-95 by going north, unless, you're the kind of masochist who fancies a complete, counterclockwise trip around the Beltway.
I took that photo in 2008, according to the posting date shown for it in my Facebook photo album. I wish I remembered where exactly it was, because I can't seem to find it on GMSV.
Given the age of that particular sign (early 70s); it was erected when I-395 was still I-95 and was proposed to continue northward to College Park, MD (I-95/495 interchange). When the designation changed; that sign was never altered/removed.
So 95 used to be routed on 395 through DC?
Quote from: roadguy2 on June 02, 2017, 01:45:07 PMSo 95 used to be routed on 395 through DC?
Correct, 395
was 95 prior to 1977.
Wiki Account of Northeast Freeway (I-95) in MD (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_Freeway_(Washington,_D.C.))
Wiki Account of I-95 in VA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_95_in_Virginia#Central_Virginia_toward_Washington.2C_D.C.)
Quote from: tckma on June 01, 2017, 06:47:46 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on May 30, 2017, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: tckma on May 30, 2017, 12:09:37 PM
But... but... I-95 doesn't go through DC!!!
Ahem... yes it does. (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.792043,-77.0386106,16.25z)
Well, yes, I knew about THAT, but there's no way to get onto I-95 in DC from any point within DC without crossing into Maryland or Virginia first. So that would have to lead you first to I-95 in Virginia or in Maryland. Since it says "North" on the sign, and I took the photo somewhere near Eastern Market (because it was the only DC-named Interstate shield I'd seen before or since), I gather it was pointing drivers toward I-95 in Maryland. But once you're on I-95 in Maryland, there's no way to get to the DC portion of I-95 by going north, unless, you're the kind of masochist who fancies a complete, counterclockwise trip around the Beltway.
I took that photo in 2008, according to the posting date shown for it in my Facebook photo album. I wish I remembered where exactly it was, because I can't seem to find it on GMSV.
I have also spent some time trying to locate where this sign was. I have found where most of the ones on aaroads gallery were but not your photo. I find the sign to be a contradiction as there are few places where (it looks like a ramp to me, but even if not) going the same direction is a logical way to get to today's I-395 north (or feeder roads northeast of downtown like US 1 or US 50)
and RFK Stadium.
Such a place does exist coming into DC from Virginia along US 1 or I-395 and east to where 395and 695 split today, but this did not pan out on GMSV (which has late 2007 and early 2008 most places). Narrowing the search down to near Eastern Market makes this sign more non-sensical, although on Maryland Ave there is a To I-95 NORTH and US 50 East sign where it leaves Constitution Ave. I did not locate and signage further along Maryland Ave.
It is also possible a sign like this makes sense for a ramp onto DC 295 north (I-95 had temp signage on BW Pkwy way back in the day) but that would put the location east of the Anacostia River to make any sense.
Also tried historicaerials to see if that was helpful and I got nowhere with that either...
I love how my silly comment about how I-95 technically (in only the most technical of terms) crosses into DC turns into a serious discussion about where a DC-named I-95 shield might actually be located.
Never change, AARoads forum goers. Never change. :)
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 02, 2017, 06:19:52 PM
I love how my silly comment about how I-95 technically (in only the most technical of terms) crosses into DC turns into a serious discussion about where a DC-named I-95 shield might actually be located.
Never change, AARoads forum goers. Never change. :)
You can't stop Mapmikey, you can only hope to contain him..
I finally found it, on D St at Pennsylvania Ave: https://goo.gl/maps/ZF2KjZfZwT92
It was replaced btw July 2011 and May 2012 with a TO I-95 shield...
Quote from: Mapmikey on June 02, 2017, 08:41:41 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 02, 2017, 06:19:52 PM
I love how my silly comment about how I-95 technically (in only the most technical of terms) crosses into DC turns into a serious discussion about where a DC-named I-95 shield might actually be located.
Never change, AARoads forum goers. Never change. :)
You can't stop Mapmikey, you can only hope to contain him..
I finally found it, on D St at Pennsylvania Ave: https://goo.gl/maps/ZF2KjZfZwT92
It was replaced btw July 2011 and May 2012 with a TO I-95 shield...
That explains why I couldn't find it in (current) GMSV...
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4205/35693082181_6108c8f638_c.jpg)
(https://flic.kr/p/Wo5nND)The last state-issued, state-named I-95 shield in NYC. US-9 SB Broadway. Manhattan, NYC. It's NB counterpart is gone. (https://flic.kr/p/Wo5nND) by mergingtraffic (https://www.flickr.com/photos/98731835@N05/), on Flickr
Still there as well:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4239/35015520473_a463b073a7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VmcGje)
Regarding DC-named Interstate shields per last month's discussion above, off the top of my head I am aware of I-95 and I-295 shields on a BGS on D Street SW underneath the L'Enfant Promenade, an I-66 shield on an LGS on westbound Virginia Avenue NW across from the Watergate Complex, and I think another I-66 shield around the corner from there on 27 Street NW across from the gas station facing traffic coming from Virginia Avenue and turning right onto the Interstate.
A couple of DC-name shields that said "D.C." in the "state" spot have been removed in recent years as part of the posting of the new signs that list I-695.
DC's signs have been inconsistent between "District of Columbia" versus "D.C." versus "DC" over the years.
Found my first Indiana state-name shield the other day, ironically less than 10 minutes from my house:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9O2uIJ7.jpg&hash=d1a3ee814989693f767a8aeedfc1ed2d79100df8)
Taking the on-ramp to I-70 WB from Ronald Reagan Parkway.
Also, these assemblies in downtown St Louis that are inconsistently state-named (another one a block up the road had no state-named shields, while this one has 5/6)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6GHPKof.jpg&hash=4e8aba5b2f98664f9cce76c3f02212d3feca4042)
As I recall, St. Louis also has lots of nonstandard trailblazers in the city, with several Interstate numbers squeezed into one route shield.
Quote from: roadguy2 on July 10, 2017, 01:04:57 AM
As I recall, St. Louis also has lots of nonstandard trailblazers in the city, with several Interstate numbers squeezed into one route shield.
If you dig through the Daily Picture Challenge thread someone has, in fact, posted a picture of one of them for one of the challenges.
Edit: Found it. PHLBOS here (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=19450.msg2203170#msg2203170) has posted one of them, as you described.
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on July 10, 2017, 02:41:16 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on July 10, 2017, 01:04:57 AM
As I recall, St. Louis also has lots of nonstandard trailblazers in the city, with several Interstate numbers squeezed into one route shield.
If you dig through the Daily Picture Challenge thread someone has, in fact, posted a picture of one of them for one of the challenges.
Edit: Found it. PHLBOS here (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=19450.msg2203170#msg2203170) has posted one of them, as you described.
Wow.... they even managed to squeeze the MISSOURI in the shield on top of the 3 interstates. Just... wow.
Quote from: roadguy2 on July 10, 2017, 01:04:57 AM
As I recall, St. Louis also has lots of nonstandard trailblazers in the city, with several Interstate numbers squeezed into one route shield.
I don't think STL is alone there -- have seen those in Indy also - granted, not State-named
https://goo.gl/maps/66uNC4QL2E52
I thought I remember seeing them in Chicago, too, but not finding an example checking GSV
I saw two last week in Sault Ste. Marie, MI. They are so faded that you can barely see the number, let alone the "MICHIGAN" lettering, but it's there.
These are on 3 Mile Road as you exit the casino, pointing to I-75. The first is directly west of the road the casino is on, and the other is another mile or so west. Incidentally, the second one tells you to turn onto M-129 north to get to I-75 - I don't know why one wouldn't want to continue west and get to I-75 Bus more directly.
Quote from: roadguy2 on July 10, 2017, 01:04:57 AM
As I recall, St. Louis also has lots of nonstandard trailblazers in the city, with several Interstate numbers squeezed into one route shield.
Yep, this was a few blocks south of the previous one:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fmxo4DG8.jpg&hash=a7a27fd6099a4742fc44ab0180b2b019607f7a1a)
WV I-68 in Cheat Lake
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4205/34841312994_50ca698f89_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/V5NQv1)
I-68 and WV Route 43 shields (https://flic.kr/p/V5NQv1) by Jon Dawson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmd41280/), on Flickr
Found these in PA and NYC.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4437/35827379153_5b9ba9a3ef_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WzWFBF)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4416/36383066542_18df283230_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Xr3J7J)
Quote from: csw on July 10, 2017, 07:02:53 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on July 10, 2017, 01:04:57 AM
As I recall, St. Louis also has lots of nonstandard trailblazers in the city, with several Interstate numbers squeezed into one route shield.
Yep, this was a few blocks south of the previous one:
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fmxo4DG8.jpg&hash=a7a27fd6099a4742fc44ab0180b2b019607f7a1a)
While not standard this is much easier to read and follow then the earlier sign with all of the interstates on separate shields. It would be nice to see something like this as a mixture of state routes or US routes so that we can avoid many of the sine salads that we have out there.
Found this older-spec shield in Kenova WV yesterday: https://goo.gl/maps/w66NGVoGk9k
Was not there in the 2012 GMSV
Quote from: mrsman on August 20, 2017, 06:40:42 AM
Quote from: csw on July 10, 2017, 07:02:53 PM
Quote from: roadguy2 on July 10, 2017, 01:04:57 AM
As I recall, St. Louis also has lots of nonstandard trailblazers in the city, with several Interstate numbers squeezed into one route shield.
Yep, this was a few blocks south of the previous one:
http://i.imgur.com/mxo4DG8.jpg
While not standard this is much easier to read and follow then the earlier sign with all of the interstates on separate shields.
I'm anything
but a fan of sign salad, but I don't think this setup is very easy to read. I think traditional sign salad might be better.
A state-named I-394 shield being used as a detour marker. I'm surprised any at all still exist.
(https://i.imgur.com/YsHpEld.png)
P.S. Whichever company owns that sign, get in touch with me. I would love to take it off your hands once you're done with it. :)
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on August 20, 2017, 09:29:09 PM
A state-named I-394 shield being used as a detour marker. I'm surprised any at all still exist.
P.S. Whichever company owns that sign, get in touch with me. I would love to take it off your hands once you're done with it. :)
There's another state-named 394 in downtown Minneapolis on Washington Avenue.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 26, 2017, 02:42:44 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on August 20, 2017, 09:29:09 PM
A state-named I-394 shield being used as a detour marker. I'm surprised any at all still exist.
P.S. Whichever company owns that sign, get in touch with me. I would love to take it off your hands once you're done with it. :)
There's another state-named 394 in downtown Minneapolis on Washington Avenue.
Your picture of that Washington Ave sign was the one I was thinking of when I saw that and took that picture. ;-)
As far as Minnesota goes beyond that, I personally know of none remaining for I-694 or I-35W. There are a couple I-35Es and I-94s in downtown St. Paul, probably city jobs; I know of a mainline I-94 state name in Maple Grove. There are still some mainline I-90s as you get into SW Minnesota, and a few county job I-35 state name shields along Old US 61.
There's a couple of named I-94 shields on state routes in St. Paul (as of last month, anyway): first is on EB MN-5 coming up to US-61/Mounds Blvd, second is on Arcade St where SB US-61 turns right onto E 7th St.
(https://i.imgur.com/A1Pk4s1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9893ox9.jpg)
A few Kentucky I-71 shields in Trimble Co./Oldham Co., KY:
Bedford, KY
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtxkkSGF.jpg&hash=94fac992f8a2f558db786e04b9eb0fd34dff8fc8)
La Grange, KY
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FG6P9e35.jpg&hash=70ab3ca2521e8c8878208a1786a880caddbc8ec9)
Here are two I-95 shields on Franconia Road (secondary Route 644) in Fairfax County, Virginia, the first one on the eastbound side just west of Van Dorn Street (secondary route 613) and the second one on the eastbound side just east of Van Dorn across from Edison HS. Pictures taken earlier today–I pass these all the time but seldom get a chance to stop. Both of them have VDOT stickers on the back, but I couldn't read them–on the first sign, the sticker has deteriorated, while on the second sign it was just a bit too high for me to make out the small print.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170826/57e7de31b8437d0c80d060dcb8d668e2.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170826/57a112526bbb15ea468a524bc4247211.jpg)
Not sure if it's covered elsewhere, but I saw a state-named shield yesterday . . . for an interstate that's not even in that state. Getting onto I-10 westbound at Exit 2 in Mississippi (from MS 607) there were a couple of "To I-12" signs -- with the Mississippi state name on the I-12 shield. The signs must be new, as the GSV image for that interchange is dated November 2016 and all of the signs were neutered then. Wish I had gotten a picture . . .
Quote from: rlb2024 on August 27, 2017, 12:55:33 AM
Not sure if it's covered elsewhere, but I saw a state-named shield yesterday . . . for an interstate that's not even in that state. Getting onto I-10 westbound at Exit 2 in Mississippi (from MS 607) there were a couple of "To I-12" signs -- with the Mississippi state name on the I-12 shield. The signs must be new, as the GSV image for that interchange is dated November 2016 and all of the signs were neutered then. Wish I had gotten a picture . . .
Now how about that....that will be one helluva sign error. Must see a picture of that!
Quote from: cjk374 on August 27, 2017, 10:59:48 AM
Quote from: rlb2024 on August 27, 2017, 12:55:33 AM
Not sure if it's covered elsewhere, but I saw a state-named shield yesterday . . . for an interstate that's not even in that state. Getting onto I-10 westbound at Exit 2 in Mississippi (from MS 607) there were a couple of "To I-12" signs -- with the Mississippi state name on the I-12 shield. The signs must be new, as the GSV image for that interchange is dated November 2016 and all of the signs were neutered then. Wish I had gotten a picture . . .
Now how about that....that will be one helluva sign error. Must see a picture of that!
Not unprecedented but certainly unusual. Still an error, though.
Similar issue present on this now-removed sign in California, directing people to the 5/199 junction --
which is in Oregon -- but the state-named CA shield remains:
Quote from: Quillz on February 18, 2017, 04:51:54 PM
Not around anymore, but here's one I only recently caught...
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usends.com%2Fuploads%2F7%2F5%2F0%2F3%2F75032313%2F911244792_orig.jpg&hash=04d64b85b381a7305925039b08bdb86e4fdd38e2)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4346/36009609753_45cf6856f9_c_d.jpg)
Geneva, MN
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4380/36818619225_ab4aa46d9a_c_d.jpg)
IA/MO State Line
Quote from: US71 on August 27, 2017, 10:46:13 PM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4380/36818619225_ab4aa46d9a_c_d.jpg)
IA/MO State Line
Imma have to go check this one out, that's cool.
State-named I-87 NY on a backroad north of Albany.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4384/36044225894_126693706a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WV75AA)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4351/36481989340_a16119770b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XzMJqd)
and I believe the only state-named I-787 shield left in Albany.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4355/36481996690_b1f404a766_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XzMLAW)
Meadowdale, WV
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4410/36716087641_e2aa8e6274_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XWtxFP)
To I-79 - Meadowdale, WV (https://flic.kr/p/XWtxFP) by Jon Dawson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmd41280/), on Flickr
Fairmont, WV
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4411/36716088501_c5a0e279a0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XWtxWD)
WV Route 310 - Fairmont, WV (https://flic.kr/p/XWtxWD) by Jon Dawson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmd41280/), on Flickr
Of course the purpose of this post is to post pics that have state-named interstate shields in states that never have them or old spec state-namers as well.
annnnnd guess what....I found some new old ones in CT.
Airport Road in Hartford. That brings the total number of 61 Spec or earlier shields to 4. All of them in Hartford.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4438/36273136164_592e611678_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XgkiDo)
and I-84 in Downtown Hartford. That brings the total number of I-84s to 3. This one in Hartford and 2 in Waterbury. (the one on CT-63 SB at CT-64 was replaced)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4399/37108407045_7e1dd8bf88_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Yx9hzt)
This on US-9 in NYC is holding on well. All other I-95's in this area are either replaced or missing.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4428/37153400425_2e85555494_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/YB7Txp)
What is that sticker in the US 9 shield?
Quote from: roadguy2 on September 11, 2017, 12:44:32 AM
What is that sticker in the US 9 shield?
It's got Bruce the shark from Finding Nemo on it. Can't see anything more.
Quote from: Hoss6884 on September 12, 2017, 08:02:12 AM
This I-376 relic still stands in Downtown Pittsburgh.
I love that it has the old Pennsylvania Department of Highways (PDH) logo at the bottom. Not many of those left, especially on interstate shields. Great find!
That's the one near the old Post-Gazerre offices right?
Dates to 1972 most likely.
www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=PA19720761
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on September 10, 2017, 06:26:48 PM
This on US-9 in NYC is holding on well. All other I-95's in this area are either replaced or missing.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4428/37153400425_2e85555494_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/YB7Txp)
Quote from: jakeroot on September 11, 2017, 12:50:41 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on September 11, 2017, 12:44:32 AM
What is that sticker in the US 9 shield?
It's got Bruce the shark from Finding Nemo on it. Can't see anything more.
Nice shield, but I couldn't help but to laugh out loud at the Bruce sticker. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I think perhaps Bruce was having a little too much fun clinching the waters of US 9 (the ferry) between Delaware and New Jersey. :-D :-D
Quote from: CanesFan27 on September 12, 2017, 07:36:26 PM
That's the one near the old Post-Gazerre offices right?
Yes.
Quote from: rlb2024 on August 27, 2017, 12:55:33 AM
Not sure if it's covered elsewhere, but I saw a state-named shield yesterday . . . for an interstate that's not even in that state. Getting onto I-10 westbound at Exit 2 in Mississippi (from MS 607) there were a couple of "To I-12" signs -- with the Mississippi state name on the I-12 shield. The signs must be new, as the GSV image for that interchange is dated November 2016 and all of the signs were neutered then. Wish I had gotten a picture . . .
Jeff R. sent us a photo of those earlier this year, not long after they went up. I shared it on the AARoads FB page.
Looking back at some video we shot on September 26, 1993, it appears that I-695 in Bronx, NY did have some state named shields originally. The route was shielded on the mainline, while overheads at the separation with the Cross Bronx Expressway Extension referenced only I-95 north and south:
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/northeast/i-295_nb_at_i-695_ny.jpg)
This was a North I-295 / Junction I-695 shield assembly:
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/northeast/i-695_ny_02.jpg)
One of two reassurance markers northbound:
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/northeast/i-695_ny_01.jpg)
Quote from: Alex on September 22, 2017, 09:23:43 AM
Looking back at some video we shot on September 26, 1993, it appears that I-695 in Bronx, NY did have some state named shields originally. The route was shielded on the mainline, while overheads at the separation with the Cross Bronx Expressway Extension referenced only I-95 north and south:
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/northeast/i-295_nb_at_i-695_ny.jpg)
This was a North I-295 / Junction I-695 shield assembly:
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/northeast/i-695_ny_02.jpg)
One of two reassurance markers northbound:
(//www.aaroads.com/forum_images/northeast/i-695_ny_01.jpg)
yeah the state-named I-695's didn't last long at all.
This MD one still kicks:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4421/37169945386_99ac05f66f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/YCzFMm)
Another DC, but not spelled out like last time. This one was still there as of yesterday morning:
https://goo.gl/maps/Tv2JgPwnwWw
I-97 northbound
https://goo.gl/maps/qQzHreaei422
I-295 VA
https://goo.gl/maps/JEjeFdZUGAo
One more in the Albany, NY area that should be still standing near Watervliet :)
Link: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.733048,-73.6995803,3a,15.4y,218.85h,88.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suHkKordTXQUnGC2ehyjFbQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Not sure if this has been mentioned or posted before, but here's a spelled-out D.C. I-66 shield. https://goo.gl/maps/t3W1hYHgWkF2
Quote from: csw on February 03, 2018, 01:35:48 PM
Not sure if this has been mentioned or posted before, but here's a spelled-out D.C. I-66 shield. https://goo.gl/maps/t3W1hYHgWkF2
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4457/37811632832_fb089af78f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZBhv71)
Some of Arkansas's state named shields have been replaced but you can still find them pretty much anywhere if you look hard enough. Here's a state named I-630 in Downtown Little Rock.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4723/39933723311_e4b6df50e7_b.jpg)
(https://flic.kr/p/23QNLET)I-630 (2) (https://flic.kr/p/23QNLET) by TBKS1 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/154936453@N06/), on Flickr
(NY) I have a picture taken of this, but am still trying to master this art of attaching a picture to posts, but a (faded) state-named I-87 shield in Latham at the NYSDOT residency at the Northway exit 5. It is mounted to the sidewalk door fence.
https://www.google.com/maps/@42.7382538,-73.7813708,3a,15y,357.65h,84.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMiPSHridZNdhLrSrl_tX9Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
GSV: Look closely - it is just to the right of the DOT sign and of the open gate. Because it is so faded, it is hard to see - but it is there.
(NY) Rochester, NY is still a state-named shield mecca! This link is to a shield that is still there - it's out of the way but still kickin'!
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1578082,-77.6290459,3a,20.8y,194.9h,84.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sho27-iJ-OazEYPcCcFd7tA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Found a rare North Carolina I-40 shield in The Triangle...
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4542/38817378582_86bbe92f61_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/229adgY)
Anybody know if these two sets of I-75 Michigan shields and M134 cutouts are still around?
https://goo.gl/maps/bL1m95oCXPr
https://goo.gl/maps/ydAJeBf9V5E2
Quote from: formulanone on March 06, 2018, 09:33:28 AM
Found a rare North Carolina I-40 shield in The Triangle...
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4542/38817378582_86bbe92f61_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/229adgY)
So I really haven't been going as crazy as I was beginning to think I was. I have been searching all over the state for one so I could prove they actually existed and I was beginning to think I dreamed it up when I said that I had seen state named shields in NC within the last 20 years. You sir have found the unicorn and I salute you!
Quote from: slorydn1 on March 14, 2018, 12:59:40 AM
Quote from: formulanone on March 06, 2018, 09:33:28 AM
Found a rare North Carolina I-40 shield in The Triangle...
So I really haven't been going as crazy as I was beginning to think I was. I have been searching all over the state for one so I could prove they actually existed and I was beginning to think I dreamed it up when I said that I had seen state named shields in NC within the last 20 years. You sir have found the unicorn and I salute you!
As of last summer there were still state-named I-85 shields in the City of Durham
https://goo.gl/maps/rF9bmn91okA2
https://goo.gl/maps/jFLcMUQiy2A2
https://goo.gl/maps/LBAsmywvcoF2
Quote from: Mapmikey on March 14, 2018, 06:34:10 AM
Quote from: slorydn1 on March 14, 2018, 12:59:40 AM
Quote from: formulanone on March 06, 2018, 09:33:28 AM
Found a rare North Carolina I-40 shield in The Triangle...
So I really haven't been going as crazy as I was beginning to think I was. I have been searching all over the state for one so I could prove they actually existed and I was beginning to think I dreamed it up when I said that I had seen state named shields in NC within the last 20 years. You sir have found the unicorn and I salute you!
As of last summer there were still state-named I-85 shields in the City of Durham
https://goo.gl/maps/rF9bmn91okA2
https://goo.gl/maps/jFLcMUQiy2A2
https://goo.gl/maps/LBAsmywvcoF2
Oooh, going to save those for my next visit.
Here's the link (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9107505,-78.9353049,3a,51.7y,134.23h,83.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQeKJi4AsD2T9QmIqEJze2w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) to the one I found; not vintage spec, but unusual enough.
Quote from: formulanone on March 14, 2018, 07:59:53 AM
Quote from: Mapmikey on March 14, 2018, 06:34:10 AM
Quote from: slorydn1 on March 14, 2018, 12:59:40 AM
Quote from: formulanone on March 06, 2018, 09:33:28 AM
Found a rare North Carolina I-40 shield in The Triangle...
So I really haven't been going as crazy as I was beginning to think I was. I have been searching all over the state for one so I could prove they actually existed and I was beginning to think I dreamed it up when I said that I had seen state named shields in NC within the last 20 years. You sir have found the unicorn and I salute you!
As of last summer there were still state-named I-85 shields in the City of Durham
https://goo.gl/maps/rF9bmn91okA2
https://goo.gl/maps/jFLcMUQiy2A2
https://goo.gl/maps/LBAsmywvcoF2
Oooh, going to save those for my next visit.
Here's the link (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9107505,-78.9353049,3a,51.7y,134.23h,83.26t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQeKJi4AsD2T9QmIqEJze2w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) to the one I found; not vintage spec, but unusual enough.
Also this one for I-40 nearby:
https://goo.gl/maps/Mg19Sqk4kWn
Got them a while back. I'll add the bbcode vs. A link when I get home.
https://flic.kr/p/cfjwz5 - I-40 NC shield at the NC 55 interchange.
Older i85 shield at the end of 55 in Durham.
https://flic.kr/p/8jpsXj
Has anyone mentioned this gem from Las Vegas:
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.063349,-115.1722876,3a,16.9y,126.26h,89.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFwt_aQ1op354nh9RApvGOw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Kinda opposite of the thread but worthy of mention.
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 15, 2018, 04:04:22 PM
Has anyone mentioned this gem from Las Vegas:
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.063349,-115.1722876,3a,16.9y,126.26h,89.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFwt_aQ1op354nh9RApvGOw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Kinda opposite of the thread but worthy of mention.
That is a new one for me. Interesting.
Quote from: cjk374 on March 17, 2018, 06:46:48 AM
Quote from: ethanhopkin14 on March 15, 2018, 04:04:22 PM
Has anyone mentioned this gem from Las Vegas:
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.063349,-115.1722876,3a,16.9y,126.26h,89.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFwt_aQ1op354nh9RApvGOw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Kinda opposite of the thread but worthy of mention.
That is a new one for me. Interesting.
There were several of these installed with the initial segment of I-215 in Las Vegas (I-15 to Warm Springs Road) in the mid 1990s, both on the mainline and at a few intersecting locations. These were also notable for using 2DI shield specs. The AARoads pages on I-215 have a few of these documented.
I'm fairly certain most of them have been replaced by now (the linked one above might be the last one left).
Some new (in the last few years) Indiana I-70 shields have appeared at the Holt Rd interchange approach. https://goo.gl/maps/HwBamdG1xu92
From Roadsguy2's post in the Daily Picture Challenge thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=19450.3700#quickreply), this one's appears to be a fairly new installation:
Quote from: roadguy2 on March 21, 2018, 04:00:23 PM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4683/24592845107_8402d88852_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DtbL3P)
Quote from: PHLBOS on March 22, 2018, 01:05:44 PM
From Roadsguy2's post in the Daily Picture Challenge thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=19450.3700#quickreply), this one's appears to be a fairly new installation:
Quote from: roadguy2 on March 21, 2018, 04:00:23 PM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4683/24592845107_8402d88852_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DtbL3P)
That was installed in 2015 when that section of I-15 was reconstructed.
Actually, almost every Interstate shield installed by UDOT since around 2013 has included the state name. Before then, Utah had exactly zero state-named shields.
Not sure if this has been posted already, but I found this gem last October while walking a side street in Olympia:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/871/40725381354_ad21e2105a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/253Le2u)20171020_205019_1 (https://flic.kr/p/253Le2u) by Cameron Frazer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/146732988@N03/), on Flickr
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on April 13, 2018, 09:16:05 PM
Not sure if this has been posted already, but I found this gem last October while walking a side street in Olympia:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/871/40725381354_ad21e2105a_k.jpg
Holy crap! No, I don't believe it was. That's one of only two state named cutout interstate shields that I've been made aware of (in addition to this beauty in Mount Vernon: https://goo.gl/XRybdY).
CT still uses state-named shields but this one is a gem:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4061/34851758753_9135009b0b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/V6JnEi)
Quote from: jakeroot on April 13, 2018, 09:58:56 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on April 13, 2018, 09:16:05 PM
Not sure if this has been posted already, but I found this gem last October while walking a side street in Olympia:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/871/40725381354_ad21e2105a_k.jpg
Holy crap! No, I don't believe it was. That's one of only two state named cutout interstate shields that I've been made aware of (in addition to this beauty in Mount Vernon: https://goo.gl/XRybdY).
An I-90 one like the Mt Vernon example was still up in 2010 when I drove by this one located at WA 970 leaving US 97 at night. Gone by the 2013 GMSV.
https://goo.gl/maps/wTxbsb3kvGQ2
Quote from: Mapmikey on April 15, 2018, 05:29:12 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 13, 2018, 09:58:56 PM
Quote from: thefraze_1020 on April 13, 2018, 09:16:05 PM
Not sure if this has been posted already, but I found this gem last October while walking a side street in Olympia:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/871/40725381354_ad21e2105a_k.jpg
Holy crap! No, I don't believe it was. That's one of only two state named cutout interstate shields that I've been made aware of (in addition to this beauty in Mount Vernon: https://goo.gl/XRybdY).
An I-90 one like the Mt Vernon example was still up in 2010 when I drove by this one located at WA 970 leaving US 97 at night. Gone by the 2013 GMSV.
https://goo.gl/maps/wTxbsb3kvGQ2
Can't help but wonder if that was ever captured up close. Too bad GMSV was such poor quality in most areas pre-2010.
It's really amazing how many WA state-named cutout shields completely dropped off the map between 2000 and 2010. Almost all except for the two noted above, and the straggler you found in Eastern WA.
A NYC installed state-named I-95 shield. It actually looks pretty good...NYCDOT known for square borders and funky arrows.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/831/41004584804_f978b243f9_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25trdu5)
Quote from: Mergingtraffic on April 26, 2018, 05:52:16 PM
A NYC installed state-named I-95 shield. It actually looks pretty good...NYCDOT known for square borders and funky arrows.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/831/41004584804_f978b243f9_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25trdu5)
Trying to save nuts & bolts by squishing the banners & shield together. So sad.
I want this sign. I want it. I need it. My collection of Minnesota highway markers demands it.
I found it on the on-ramp (:confused:) from MN-60 to EB I-90 in Worthington today.
(https://i.imgur.com/RnoNEUe.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OVTRARQ.jpg)
Steal it lol
HTC_D10i
I found this beauty yesterday, still posted on MN-13 SB just west of the MN-55 intersection. It points I-494 bound traffic south onto Pilot Knob Rd, since MN-13 does not interchange with I-494.
(https://i.imgur.com/KvBUIMn.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/S4H7wLE.jpg)
Found this old boy on the west side of Chicago today. How old of a spec are circular "TO" placards?
(https://i.imgur.com/L3CRhJr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/eNnyQxY.jpg)
Two gems that I found at Eastridge Mall in Gastonia today.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1813/29114787018_1cc9e64538_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LmLTQw)IMG_1372 (https://flic.kr/p/LmLTQw) by Adam Prince (https://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1772/42937449612_ec6a4cc73d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28qeDRo)IMG_1371 (https://flic.kr/p/28qeDRo) by Adam Prince (https://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
Found this surprise in Nashville on Donaldson Pike near the Airport. I am willing to bet this may be the only one in the entire state...
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/846/42684925034_16c4b29447_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/282Vp6m)IMG_0450 (https://flic.kr/p/282Vp6m) by Jake Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141425709@N06/), on Flickr
Quote from: Jakeallentn on July 14, 2018, 08:31:56 AM
Found this surprise in Nashville on Donaldson Pike near the Airport. I am willing to bet this may be the only one in the entire state...
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/846/42684925034_16c4b29447_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/282Vp6m)IMG_0450 (https://flic.kr/p/282Vp6m) by Jake Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141425709@N06/), on Flickr
I reckon that's a unicorn!
Welcome to the boards, Jake.
Quote from: formulanone on July 14, 2018, 10:06:45 AM
Quote from: Jakeallentn on July 14, 2018, 08:31:56 AM
Found this surprise in Nashville on Donaldson Pike near the Airport. I am willing to bet this may be the only one in the entire state...
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/846/42684925034_16c4b29447_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/282Vp6m)IMG_0450 (https://flic.kr/p/282Vp6m) by Jake Allen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141425709@N06/), on Flickr
I reckon that's a unicorn!
Welcome to the boards, Jake.
Didn't a few crop up near Memphis a couple years ago? And then there is/was the infamous "state" ones near Knoxville, IIRC. Either way, I have something to check out the next time I'm up in that part of Nashville!
Just wondering, how do you guys feel about state-named shields on a BGS? Last week I saw a couple on I-80 in Wyoming. Other than the interstates in Maine, I don't remember seeing state-named shields on a BGS anywhere else.
Also, I was on I-80 through Illinois and saw one state-named I-80 shield EB on the Tri State Tollway multiplex with I-294.
Quote from: Roadwarriors79 on July 15, 2018, 11:31:46 AM
Just wondering, how do you guys feel about state-named shields on a BGS? Last week I saw a couple on I-80 in Wyoming. Other than the interstates in Maine, I don't remember seeing state-named shields on a BGS anywhere else.
I've seen them in both Georgia (for I-16 on I-95) & Pennsylvania (on PA-28 for I-279 (https://goo.gl/maps/freBia2RKjs)).
Quote from: Roadwarriors79 on July 15, 2018, 11:31:46 AM
Just wondering, how do you guys feel about state-named shields on a BGS? Last week I saw a couple on I-80 in Wyoming. Other than the interstates in Maine, I don't remember seeing state-named shields on a BGS anywhere else.
Also, I was on I-80 through Illinois and saw one state-named I-80 shield EB on the Tri State Tollway multiplex with I-294.
There is one I-80 shield in both directions at the Halsted St. interchange. It's near impossible to get a good photo though, I've tried.
I'm not a fan of state names on a BGS. They're too far away from the driver (in most instances) to be easily readable, so they end up just cluttering the shield. If the sign is ground-mounted, it's less bothersome.
Washington has had a few state-named shields on BGSs. Other than all the little-green signs in Seattle, this is the only one still standing AFAIK: https://goo.gl/JdXvPm
Quote from: Roadwarriors79 on July 15, 2018, 11:31:46 AM
Just wondering, how do you guys feel about state-named shields on a BGS? Last week I saw a couple on I-80 in Wyoming. Other than the interstates in Maine, I don't remember seeing state-named shields on a BGS anywhere else.
Also, I was on I-80 through Illinois and saw one state-named I-80 shield EB on the Tri State Tollway multiplex with I-294.
Colorado and Utah say Hi...
Quote from: formulanone on July 14, 2018, 10:06:45 AM
I reckon that's a unicorn!
Welcome to the boards, Jake.
I texted this photo to both Jake and Jeff, and neither knew about the shield. Both are going to check it out next week on separate trips to Nashville.
Confirmed sighting of the Tennessee I-40 shield...there seems to be lots of recent signage near the exit roads from BNA, since they're under construction.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1766/29678202338_a9669a9444_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/MdyxzL)
Someone has posted this before, but I passed by there today. Mississippi shield for I-12 at the NASA exit just 2 miles east of Louisiana border
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180809/95ced6ee6d123143b7cd96090ac75252.jpg)
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Whoops!
Someone on these boards posted the whereabouts of this one in the Cincinnati area a few years ago, but I can't recall who to credit.
But it's still standing as of last week:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1962/45024326412_37bf1a2dfc_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bADrBS)
I saw it five years ago. Given that it's on a city street, away from ODOT maintenance, I'd say it will stay up until it's stolen or that utility pole is replaced.
Bainbridge, NY:
(https://i.imgur.com/Ms4Mz4d.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tXB3JVE.jpg)
New Jersey of all places has had some state-named shields on some BGS. One example is on US 46 in Ridgefield Park:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8483006,-74.0215988,3a,75y,134.31h,94.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4mRfvctx6eYhPUlfGhJ1sQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Is Nevada currently using state-named Interstate shields? When I was in Reno, I saw quite a mix of neutered and state-named shields, but wasn't sure which were newer (though there were more state-named ones, including a few on BGSes on I-580!).
Quote from: freebrickproductions on November 02, 2018, 01:24:04 AM
Is Nevada currently using state-named Interstate shields? When I was in Reno, I saw quite a mix of neutered and state-named shields, but wasn't sure which were newer (though there were more state-named ones, including a few on BGSes on I-580!).
I was disappointed to see I-11 in Nevada had all neutered shields (at least so far). I have seen more state named shields than not in Nevada. I think I-215 still has some shields that say "Loop" instead of "Nevada".
Quote from: Roadwarriors79 on November 02, 2018, 03:57:28 PM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on November 02, 2018, 01:24:04 AM
Is Nevada currently using state-named Interstate shields? When I was in Reno, I saw quite a mix of neutered and state-named shields, but wasn't sure which were newer (though there were more state-named ones, including a few on BGSes on I-580!).
I was disappointed to see I-11 in Nevada had all neutered shields (at least so far). I have seen more state named shields than not in Nevada. I think I-215 still has some shields that say "Loop" instead of "Nevada".
It seems to vary project to project. For example, the recent extension of the I-580 Carson City Freeway between Fairview Drive and S Carson St used neutered shields. But when I-580 shields were added on the mainline and freeway entrance sign packages at local interchanges were changed over to I-580 shields circa 2012 (when I-580 was first signed), all of these used state-named shields.
I think NDOT maintenance crews tend to use state-named shields when doing one-off replacements, but state-named shield use tends to vary on major projects where installed by contractors.
Some PA badboys
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4579/26956170639_6510900c87_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/H52qoK)
and VA badboys:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4459/37613982700_364b98d5dd_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ZiPuB7)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1944/43443813750_8aff5d7948_z_d.jpg)
Washington, PA
I saw two in Indiana and a couple in West Virginia, but haven't uploaded them yet.
Quote from: bassoon1986 on August 08, 2018, 09:44:58 PM
Someone has posted this before, but I passed by there today. Mississippi shield for I-12 at the NASA exit just 2 miles east of Louisiana border
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180809/95ced6ee6d123143b7cd96090ac75252.jpg)
iPhone
I know there is another thread about control cities - but it looks like Mobile replaced a previous control city on this sign. I assume it was Biloxi as the space is not wide enough for Gulfport or Pascagoula (or Tallahassee for that matter).
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/jmhqy2ruiwinzie2noou.jpg)
At the exit of the parking garage of the Greater Richmond Convention Center.
The sign prior to this one was also Mobile per GMSV so if it was Biloxi it was short-lived. Perhaps Mobile was misspelled...
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1938/30785346707_4bcca5a2ef_z_d.jpg)
Indiana
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4867/31854163248_12441e71e8_z_d.jpg)
West Virginia
Saw this yesterday in Charlottesville. It turns out there are NUMEROUS state named shields in the Charlottesville area, most of which is inside city limits
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190603/3f307443fa1417992de769c2c5b105e8.jpg)
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This is one of 4 I found today at the I-64/US 250/Blue Ridge Parkway interchange near Waynesboro. I believe 61 spec but they're not very old. Two older ones at the same location have been replaced in the last few years.
(https://i.imgur.com/WGk6frp.jpg)
I-66 trailblazer in Warrenton. No idea how old it is.
(https://i.imgur.com/NxhPsOl.jpg)
This photo was taken last summer, but upon revisiting a week or two ago, this I-94 trailblazer heading towards Goose Island had been replaced.
(https://i.imgur.com/DbF10eB.jpg)
I'll keep this thread floating if no one else will. Two of four I-83's I found yesterday in downtown Baltimore.
(https://i.imgur.com/aCVwY96.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sls2pVu.jpg)
Here's a picture of my I-94 shield from the state of Illinois. It measures 18x18 inches, which is an unusual size. Anyone know what specification it is? My best guess is 1957 or 1961? I'm not sure.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/182395852@N05/48189680391/in/album-72157709408327732/
Here's a good description from early in the thread. https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=12304.msg2002887#msg2002887
To me it looks like an attempt to recreate a 57 spec, but the text "Illinois" is a little too big. Scroll up a few posts to see a photo of what I'm pretty sure is a 1961 spec Illinois I-94 shield.
I could be wrong but I don't think there's much of a difference between 2di shields in the 1957/1961 specs.
Quote from: csw on July 04, 2019, 08:32:24 PM
Here's a good description from early in the thread. https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=12304.msg2002887#msg2002887
To me it looks like an attempt to recreate a 57 spec, but the text "Illinois" is a little too big. Scroll up a few posts to see a photo of what I'm pretty sure is a 1961 spec Illinois I-94 shield.
I could be wrong but I don't think there's much of a difference between 2di shields in the 1957/1961 specs.
It's a real sign, it came from eBay. I also have noticed that the state name text is a little large, which is unusual. What's even more unusual to me is that it measures 18x18 inches instead of 24x24 inches.
Quote from: Jacob on July 04, 2019, 08:42:51 PM
Quote from: csw on July 04, 2019, 08:32:24 PM
Here's a good description from early in the thread. https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=12304.msg2002887#msg2002887
To me it looks like an attempt to recreate a 57 spec, but the text "Illinois" is a little too big. Scroll up a few posts to see a photo of what I'm pretty sure is a 1961 spec Illinois I-94 shield.
I could be wrong but I don't think there's much of a difference between 2di shields in the 1957/1961 specs.
It's a real sign, it came from eBay. I also have noticed that the state name text is a little large, which is unusual. What's even more unusual to me is that it measures 18x18 inches instead of 24x24 inches.
No I understand that it's a real sign, there's no doubt about that. I meant it was probably manufactured later than the 1960s but whoever made it tried to match it to the older spec. As far as the smaller size, I have no idea. But I'd argue it's more proof that the shield is newer than the 60s.
Quote from: csw on July 04, 2019, 08:47:36 PM
Quote from: Jacob on July 04, 2019, 08:42:51 PM
Quote from: csw on July 04, 2019, 08:32:24 PM
Here's a good description from early in the thread. https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=12304.msg2002887#msg2002887
To me it looks like an attempt to recreate a 57 spec, but the text "Illinois" is a little too big. Scroll up a few posts to see a photo of what I'm pretty sure is a 1961 spec Illinois I-94 shield.
I could be wrong but I don't think there's much of a difference between 2di shields in the 1957/1961 specs.
It's a real sign, it came from eBay. I also have noticed that the state name text is a little large, which is unusual. What's even more unusual to me is that it measures 18x18 inches instead of 24x24 inches.
No I understand that it's a real sign, there's no doubt about that. I meant it was probably manufactured later than the 1960s but whoever made it tried to match it to the older spec. As far as the smaller size, I have no idea. But I'd argue it's more proof that the shield is newer than the 60s.
If that was the case that's pretty neat! To me it's unique, as I have never seen one like it. As soon as I saw it go up, I jumped at it. Would you say $80 was a fair price for it? It's the most I've ever paid for a sign.
Are you deleting and resubmitting your post? I saw your question, I don't have an answer for you, I've never bought a sign. Maybe someone else who has experience with that can help.
As far as I know state-name shields in Oregon are stupidly rare (that photo is from 2007 and the most recent one on the shield gallery is 2008). The one you cited looks old enough to be an original, so I'd say that's enough evidence to call yours 57 spec. Although I still think yours was actually manufactured much more recently than that.
Nope, now we're entering territory I absolutely know nothing about.
Not a great shot, but I did spot this state-named shield in Gillette, Wyoming, last year:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/1846/44088055282_5a0f0c3887_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aaUNQb)
WY-059-I-90NJ (https://flic.kr/p/2aaUNQb) by Paul Drives (https://www.flickr.com/photos/138603251@N02/), on Flickr
A few more I haven't posted from the past few months.
A filthy I-83 in Harrisburg:
(https://i.imgur.com/cTaDcyA.jpg)
I-81 approaching Binghamton:
(https://i.imgur.com/SocHYJv.jpg)
At the northern end of Skyline Drive in Front Royal:
(https://i.imgur.com/NsxMLwr.jpg)
Spotted in Abingdon, VA, last week.
(https://i.imgur.com/FQoMxZI.jpg)
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 30, 2016, 10:40:24 PM
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7581/27730057580_a7561cb811_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JfpN23)
Also I'd like to bump/update this map again...a few changes I would make:
- Washington, New York, North Carolina, and (maybe) Indiana to red. They're the same as Illinois and Maryland in that outside of a few old installs in the big cities, there are none. Which I would consider "virtually none".
- Change all of the blue and brown states to yellow.
- Change New Mexico and Colorado to green (up for debate).
For the sake of argument for the first point, here's the tallies of ones I know of in some of those cities.
- Chicago, IL: 3 (I'm sure there are more out there, though)
- Baltimore, MD: 4
- Indianapolis, IN: 16 (there are probably a few more around I-465)
- Seattle, WA: I've seen photos of maybe 1 or 2 on the board.
- New York, NY: I've seen photos of 1 or 2. I know of 2-3 more in random parts of the state.
Maps like that one bother me when they don't have the nuance to express "state name shields are posted in X situation but not Y". For instance, Oklahoma nearly always posts state-name shields at ground level, but on BGSes they often don't. In Kansas, KDOT frequently posts state name shields, but KTA very rarely does. Both of these just get coded as "Widespread" on a map.
Quote from: csw on December 24, 2019, 02:13:49 PM
- Seattle, WA: I've seen photos of maybe 1 or 2 on the board.
There are probably 30 or 40 (or more) state-named shields in Seattle alone.
Along US-301 at Bowling Green, VA
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.0470892,-77.3401568,3a,27y,231.93h,84.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRy01KX1QLqBpraMoE6ESdw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: csw on December 24, 2019, 02:13:49 PM
For the sake of argument for the first point, here's the tallies of ones I know of in some of those cities.
- Chicago, IL: 3 (I'm sure there are more out there, though)
If that's for the City of Chicago, maybe. If it includes the suburbs, it's low. I think there are still a few older shields with the state name on non-IDOT roadways in the suburbs.
63rd Street at I-355 (https://goo.gl/maps/c6rGahMwUW1yh4s18)
Maple Avenue at I-355 (https://goo.gl/maps/eykcL14k7qS2Qjw99)
Quote from: csw on December 24, 2019, 02:13:49 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on June 30, 2016, 10:40:24 PM
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7581/27730057580_a7561cb811_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JfpN23)
Also I'd like to bump/update this map again...a few changes I would make:
- Washington, New York, North Carolina, and (maybe) Indiana to red. They're the same as Illinois and Maryland in that outside of a few old installs in the big cities, there are none. Which I would consider "virtually none".
- Change all of the blue and brown states to yellow.
- Change New Mexico and Colorado to green (up for debate).
For the sake of argument for the first point, here's the tallies of ones I know of in some of those cities.
- Chicago, IL: 3 (I'm sure there are more out there, though)
- Baltimore, MD: 4
- Indianapolis, IN: 16 (there are probably a few more around I-465)
- Seattle, WA: I've seen photos of maybe 1 or 2 on the board.
- New York, NY: I've seen photos of 1 or 2. I know of 2-3 more in random parts of the state.
Just based on personal travels over the past year, I'd recommend changing CT to yellow (because that state name is not always on the shield, they seem inconsistent now); GA, CO and NM to green (virtually always - at least on badges - and on many BGS too).
And this one is an honest question: how do we know that states like MO and IA have stopped placing the state name on the interstate badge? Couldn't it be a case of having a contractor produce badges for a period of time? Do we know it's a permanent thing? Because, having driven through both states, most badges do have the state name on the shield - but I've seen one or two without. Hard to tell without living there, I suppose.
Quote from: StogieGuy7 on January 06, 2020, 03:50:23 PM
And this one is an honest question: how do we know that states like MO and IA have stopped placing the state name on the interstate badge? Couldn't it be a case of having a contractor produce badges for a period of time? Do we know it's a permanent thing? Because, having driven through both states, most badges do have the state name on the shield - but I've seen one or two without. Hard to tell without living there, I suppose.
For Missouri, every time I've been there for the past few years the number of state-named shields has been less. It's enough of a reduction to be noticeable and also appears to be happening when signs are changed out. Plus there's the lack of state named shields on I-49.
Found a state-named I-65 shield in Indianapolis:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49419330561_31db016b3b_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ii1Zet)
Quote from: formulanone on January 21, 2020, 08:27:51 PM
Found a state-named I-65 shield in Indianapolis:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49419330561_31db016b3b_4k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ii1Zet)
Where'd you find this at?
That one's on East Morris St. heading eastbound at the I-65 South ramp. Most of the other state names around Indy are either I-70 or I-465, but there's another I-65 at 21st and Capitol.
Quote from: csw on January 22, 2020, 05:50:48 PM
That one's on East Morris St. heading eastbound at the I-65 South ramp.
That's exactly it! I forgot where exactly where I took it.
Quote from: formulanone on January 22, 2020, 06:21:45 PM
Quote from: csw on January 22, 2020, 05:50:48 PM
That one's on East Morris St. heading eastbound at the I-65 South ramp. Most of the other state names around Indy are either I-70 or I-465, but there's another I-65 at 21st and Capitol.
That's exactly it!
Not bad, I know there's a state named 465 or 70 shield somewhere along Sam Jones Expwy.
Spent the week in Minneapolis and saw two state-named I-94 shields around downtown.
First one on Franklin Ave, https://goo.gl/maps/gccMkwRyP4i9bLLj6
Second on 11th St, https://goo.gl/maps/TD6KhG5TCwA2QPMo8
Haven't seen photos of these on the board anywhere. Perhaps one of the Minnesota folks can grab a photo.
The nice state-name I-95 shield seen in the Street View image linked below was just replaced within the past week or two with the ugly thing seen in the photo below (photo taken yesterday afternoon when I was walking home from the ATM).
Street View of old shield: https://goo.gl/maps/eHSX1BW1QjsaATHL8
Its replacement:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200302/3a2f9bdf292fd307a685ca87075e8b9f.jpg)
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 02, 2020, 02:43:31 PMIts replacement:
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200302/3a2f9bdf292fd307a685ca87075e8b9f.jpg)
Such reminds me a little bit of those 90s-vintage I-95 shields that were erected in the medians of the NJ Turnpike between Exit 10 and 8A.
(https://www.alpsroads.net/roads/nj/i-95/s95.jpg)
From Alpsroads.net (http://www.alpsroads.net)
Although the numerals on those were the bolder Series E-Modified as opposed to Series E per the above-pic. IMHO, Series D numerals should've been used for the I-95 shield.
One of a few old I-180s in the Williamsport, PA, area.
(https://i.imgur.com/4iKbvme.jpg)
One of two at Exit 50 on I-64, east of Lexington, VA.
(https://i.imgur.com/4y9R5XD.jpg)
Two slightly different-styled shields at the Covington, KY, end of the Clay Wade Bailey Bridge.
(https://i.imgur.com/kGhdPmj.jpg)
Another WV I-79 in Fairmont
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48926935196_d40d5af0c6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hxvkfd)
US 19 south at US 250 in Fairmont, WV (https://flic.kr/p/2hxvkfd) by Jon Dawson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmd41280/), on Flickr
A few district-named I-95 shields I found in Washington a few months ago. The first one is on Constitution Avenue NW approaching Louisiana Avenue NW while the second two (hearkening back to when 95 still entered downtown DC) hang underneath L'Enfant Plaza.
(https://i.imgur.com/RUsLkZBl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/N7jsBIql.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wgFZQoSl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RUsLkZBl.jpg)
That's some Helvetica there. Perhaps a commercial sign company built those panels rather than a DOT sign department. Still not much of an excuse.
Quote from: Bobby5280 on May 08, 2020, 01:54:26 PM
That's some Helvetica there. Perhaps a commercial sign company built those panels rather than a DOT sign department. Still not much of an excuse.
DDOT loves Helvetica for some reason. When I was there in 2007 all the street blades except for a handful were in Helvetica.
As a general rule, Kansas doesn't use named shields, but I found an old one last Summer near Colby, KS
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49758385713_013d6d77aa_z_d.jpg)
Arkansas is very hit and miss. Newer signs have about a 60 percent chance of not being named
(https://live.staticflickr.com/8143/27844133573_268424fa0e_z_d.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/5135/5447611403_a0401f2bda_z_d.jpg)
Two of maybe 6-7 I-79s on Neville Island.
(https://i.imgur.com/Z9T29bH.jpg)
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(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7581/27730057580_a7561cb811_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JfpN23)
This is the last iteration of the map--let me know if I should change anything
If this map gets updated again, I'm wondering if Iowa should be changed to yellow - the first shield for WB I-880 after the split from WB I-80 has the state name. Also, maybe they are all surviving shields, but there seems to be more state named shields than neutered shields across Iowa.
Iowa I would definitely change to yellow or green, having driven around that state much more in recent years.
The lone known state name I-295 VA shield still stands as of today, for now. There's construction on Greenwood Road so it could end up a casualty.
(https://thepracticalhoon.files.wordpress.com/2020/09/img_4802.jpg)
The conventional wisdom among road enthusiasts that there are no Tennessee state-named shields is incorrect. As of yesterday, I can confirm that at least two old ones still exist in Chattanooga. Unfortunately, photos don't really turn out when you're facing south at noon in November.
PA I-79 near Cecil
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50564468583_86e16f08fa_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k3d7St)
Southern end of PA 978 (https://flic.kr/p/2k3d7St) by Jon Dawson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jmd41280/), on Flickr
Found a few more, combing through recent uploads...
Rhode Island has two at northbound US 1, where it begins to overlap I-95:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51312842362_9820cfb587_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mbkJjE)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51312842437_f8a449dffe_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mbkJkX)
...not that my travels are extensive in Utah, but this was a nice surprise:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51344576768_41aac3e3d4_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2me9nRA)
Spotted a rare Tennessee I-40 shield last week in Bartlett, Tennessee; but I couldn't get a clear shot. (Updated GMSV (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1943633,-89.7922452,3a,48.8y,28.02h,78.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXPA5IzPHrcKLx-_15i636A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192))
Quote from: formulanone on July 30, 2021, 07:49:37 AM
Spotted a rare Tennessee I-40 shield last week in Bartlett, Tennessee; but I couldn't get a clear shot. (GSMV not updated. (https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1927245,-89.792646,3a,41.8y,26.16h,95.75t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFcOb5DWncQnOqh8zyS7Tbg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192))
(https://www.interstate-guide.com/wp-content/uploads/routes/040/tn-177-n-at-i-040.jpg)
That state named shield is thanks to Jeff. Photo from January 2019.
The only genuine state named shields in Tennessee are the I-24 span wire overheads in East Ridge. Those were still there as of last September.
Quote from: Alex on July 30, 2021, 09:24:33 AM
The only genuine state named shields in Tennessee are the I-24 span wire overheads in East Ridge. Those were still there as of last September.
Wow, a little off-spec but I'll check those out next time I'm in Chattanooga...didn't know about those!
Quote from: formulanone on July 30, 2021, 11:19:19 AM
Quote from: Alex on July 30, 2021, 09:24:33 AM
The only genuine state named shields in Tennessee are the I-24 span wire overheads in East Ridge. Those were still there as of last September.
Wow, a little off-spec but I'll check those out next time I'm in Chattanooga...didn't know about those!
Somebody care to post the Street View link?
Quote from: hbelkins on July 30, 2021, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: formulanone on July 30, 2021, 11:19:19 AM
Quote from: Alex on July 30, 2021, 09:24:33 AM
The only genuine state named shields in Tennessee are the I-24 span wire overheads in East Ridge. Those were still there as of last September.
Wow, a little off-spec but I'll check those out next time I'm in Chattanooga...didn't know about those!
Somebody care to post the Street View link?
https://goo.gl/maps/weBddb65Ms9tWR3c8
Quote from: formulanone on July 30, 2021, 07:49:37 AM
Found a few more, combing through recent uploads...
Rhode Island has two at northbound US 1, where it begins to overlap I-95:
There are a few more around that spot - I believe every shield at that intersection/interchange has the state name.
Quote from: formulanone on July 30, 2021, 11:19:19 AM
Quote from: Alex on July 30, 2021, 09:24:33 AM
The only genuine state named shields in Tennessee are the I-24 span wire overheads in East Ridge. Those were still there as of last September.
Wow, a little off-spec but I'll check those out next time I'm in Chattanooga...didn't know about those!
Anyone know if these literal state named Tennessee I-75 shields are still up? GMSV is from June 2018
https://goo.gl/maps/phGh1kcjsiKg8E536
Quote from: kphoger on July 30, 2021, 03:58:33 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 30, 2021, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: formulanone on July 30, 2021, 11:19:19 AM
Quote from: Alex on July 30, 2021, 09:24:33 AM
The only genuine state named shields in Tennessee are the I-24 span wire overheads in East Ridge. Those were still there as of last September.
Wow, a little off-spec but I'll check those out next time I'm in Chattanooga...didn't know about those!
Somebody care to post the Street View link?
https://goo.gl/maps/weBddb65Ms9tWR3c8
I discovered those last November on a Chattanooga area clinchdrive. Just about pissed my pants when I saw them. I'm pretty sure I passed them again in March 2021 and they were still there.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/1944/43443813750_8aff5d7948_z_d.jpg)
Some older Pennsylvania shields
Quote from: US 89 on July 31, 2021, 01:06:44 AM
Quote from: kphoger on July 30, 2021, 03:58:33 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 30, 2021, 03:36:46 PM
Quote from: formulanone on July 30, 2021, 11:19:19 AM
Quote from: Alex on July 30, 2021, 09:24:33 AM
The only genuine state named shields in Tennessee are the I-24 span wire overheads in East Ridge. Those were still there as of last September.
Wow, a little off-spec but I'll check those out next time I'm in Chattanooga...didn't know about those!
Somebody care to post the Street View link?
https://goo.gl/maps/weBddb65Ms9tWR3c8
I discovered those last November on a Chattanooga area clinchdrive. Just about pissed my pants when I saw them. I'm pretty sure I passed them again in March 2021 and they were still there.
Speaking of I-24, these (https://goo.gl/maps/fDqP28iryEGTJiyF9) are awesome.
I found a TENNESSEE I-40 shield in Nashville. It appears to be new.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1330395,-86.6636134,3a,15y,98.32h,88.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8dAhi7A8gH0KPtB0IW0M4g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1330395,-86.6636134,3a,15y,98.32h,88.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8dAhi7A8gH0KPtB0IW0M4g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on August 10, 2021, 01:42:06 PM
I found a TENNESSEE I-40 shield in Nashville. It appears to be new.
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1330395,-86.6636134,3a,15y,98.32h,88.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8dAhi7A8gH0KPtB0IW0M4g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en (https://www.google.com/maps/@36.1330395,-86.6636134,3a,15y,98.32h,88.9t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8dAhi7A8gH0KPtB0IW0M4g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en)
Looking at historical StreetView, that showed up sometime between Nov '17 & Sep '18.
PA 906 North in Belle Vernon, PA
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51577539227_7a83ac511f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mzJntH)IMG_7800 (https://flic.kr/p/2mzJntH) by Adam Prince (https://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
Quote from: Takumi on May 25, 2014, 07:47:21 AM
The lone I-85 Virginia shield (paired on a unisign with an I-95 Virginia shield) was still up as of last week. No date code anywhere on it. I don't know of any state-name Virginia shields still up on mainlines (the last state-name I-95s from the portion built in the early 1980s in Prince George and Sussex were all removed from the mainline by 2013) but there are still many on surface roads. I know of many I-95s, between Richmond, the one in Petersburg, some in Sussex County, and some newer installations south of Fredericksburg. I've also seen them for I-64, I-264, and I-195.
I couldn't remember where this lone I-85 shield with the state-name but I found it and it was still up as of Sept 2021 (https://goo.gl/maps/HVSBF59Amqr3nrPJA). It and the accompanying I-95 shield are in rough shape...
Quote from: Mapmikey on February 09, 2022, 12:40:23 PM
Quote from: Takumi on May 25, 2014, 07:47:21 AM
The lone I-85 Virginia shield (paired on a unisign with an I-95 Virginia shield) was still up as of last week. No date code anywhere on it. I don't know of any state-name Virginia shields still up on mainlines (the last state-name I-95s from the portion built in the early 1980s in Prince George and Sussex were all removed from the mainline by 2013) but there are still many on surface roads. I know of many I-95s, between Richmond, the one in Petersburg, some in Sussex County, and some newer installations south of Fredericksburg. I've also seen them for I-64, I-264, and I-195.
I couldn't remember where this lone I-85 shield with the state-name but I found it and it was still up as of Sept 2021 (https://goo.gl/maps/HVSBF59Amqr3nrPJA). It and the accompanying I-95 shield are in rough shape...
I think it's still there, but I'll check to verify that later this week. Petersburg has been replacing lots of signs recently...almost entirely with incorrect shields. Almost all the VA 36 postings are now US 36 shields.
Google Maps shows that the only known state-name I-295 shield, on eastbound Greenwood Road approaching Woodman Road, has been replaced as part of converting that intersection into a roundabout.
(https://i.imgur.com/uMGGYYo.jpg?1)
It looks like Connecticut is slowly starting to phase out state named shields. I was on I-84 and I-91 today and saw only two state named shields still left on the mainline, one for 84 and one for 91. With ConnDOT doing spot sign replacements, they have started to disappear slowly. The example above is on I-84 westbound just before Exit 72.
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on May 27, 2022, 09:06:39 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/uMGGYYo.jpg?1)
It looks like Connecticut is slowly starting to phase out state named shields. I was on I-84 and I-91 today and saw only two state named shields still left on the mainline, one for 84 and one for 91. With ConnDOT doing spot sign replacements, they have started to disappear slowly. The example above is on I-84 westbound just before Exit 72.
There are still quite a few on 84 between Farmington and Southington. The 2017 sign replacement project on that stretch used state shields. However, I've seen a couple of those signs on the approaches to an interchange replaced with neutered shields.
Still up in King of Prussia, PA.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52111969687_34e62d9292_z.jpg)
The lone state named I-684 shield southbound is still standing as of today. Passed it northbound, but couldn't get a good photo of it.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.3207816,-73.6602231,3a,90y,247.16h,64.43t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUl8_kBr5eACHIfhmoGdhiA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52114007350_4730702cfd_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2np8UL7)
Found this one last week on WA 906 at Snoqualmie Pass at I-90 -> Street View (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.3962853,-121.3975813,3a,42.9y,47.13h,91.21t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sohHGoTVRdz9eNb1tms4kcQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DohHGoTVRdz9eNb1tms4kcQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D79.57797%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192)
(The "green slime" effect is from using a flash to eliminate some of the shadows.)
Wow! Candidate for best-of, there.
The only reason WSDOT hasn't replaced it three times in the last twenty years is because it is hidden under an overpass at Snoqualmie Pass.
...although, if you know where to look, both sides of Snoqualmie Pass have a lot of old (for Washington) signage.
From this past weekend in SW PA:
PA 51 South - this most likely will be gone soon as they are upgrading the interchange from a 1950s cloverleaf to a DDI.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52469910946_db8cf37129_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nWA1v1)IMG_0282 (https://flic.kr/p/2nWA1v1) by Adam Prince (https://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
Coraopolis:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52468221830_6016f4494e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nWrmoj)IMG_0250 (https://flic.kr/p/2nWrmoj) by Adam Prince (https://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
Mt. Nebo Road:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52467263142_56e4f60b89_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nWmrpd)IMG_0242 (https://flic.kr/p/2nWmrpd) by Adam Prince (https://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4022/4712984983_b3f3dc7eb6_z.jpg)
Here is a rare freeway entrance sign where the Interstate is at the bottom over the US Route sign. Note this is given that this is near the west end of I-80 in San Francisco. Here is a more common use of a freeway enterance sign with state labeled interstate shield.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5088/5269223805_053e6d15cf_z.jpg)
Quote from: CanesFan27 on November 01, 2022, 10:35:31 AM
From this past weekend in SW PA:
PA 51 South - this most likely will be gone soon as they are upgrading the interchange from a 1950s cloverleaf to a DDI.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52469910946_db8cf37129_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nWA1v1)IMG_0282 (https://flic.kr/p/2nWA1v1) by Adam Prince (https://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
Coraopolis:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52468221830_6016f4494e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nWrmoj)IMG_0250 (https://flic.kr/p/2nWrmoj) by Adam Prince (https://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
Mt. Nebo Road:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52467263142_56e4f60b89_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nWmrpd)IMG_0242 (https://flic.kr/p/2nWmrpd) by Adam Prince (https://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
There's still a few I-279 state name shields as well out there as well if you know where to look.
I have to wonder why most states, including here in Washington, phased out the state names on the Interstate shields. Maybe because an interstate doesn't "belong" to a particular state since it's one long line. For example, Interstate 90 is still Interstate 90, even after crossing the Washington-Idaho border. It's not like between Pullman, Washington, and Moscow, Idaho, where Washington State Route 270 ends and changes to Idaho State Highway 8 at the Washington-Idaho border down there.
When I took my drive to Yreka, California, I did notice that for their US shields, they add "US," whereas at least in Oregon, Idaho, and here in Washington, they don't.
US Route 97 shield in Washington: https://goo.gl/maps/vkRa7PDuRZQQcD8U9
US Route 97 shield in California: https://goo.gl/maps/oDTgx5t8Ute2AsFY6
Likewise, for California's local state routes. The shields have "California" on them.
Quote from: Amaury on November 02, 2022, 01:52:01 AM
I have to wonder why most states, including here in Washington, phased out the state names on the Interstate shields. Maybe because an interstate doesn't "belong" to a particular state since it's one long line. For example, Interstate 90 is still Interstate 90, even after crossing the Washington-Idaho border. It's not like between Pullman, Washington, and Moscow, Idaho, where Washington State Route 270 ends and changes to Idaho State Highway 8 at the Washington-Idaho border down there.
When I took my drive to Yreka, California, I did notice that for their US shields, they add "US," whereas at least in Oregon, Idaho, and here in Washington, they don't.
US Route 97 shield in Washington: https://goo.gl/maps/vkRa7PDuRZQQcD8U9
US Route 97 shield in California: https://goo.gl/maps/oDTgx5t8Ute2AsFY6
Likewise, for California's local state routes. The shields have "California" on them.
MUTCD...
Quote from: AmauryI have to wonder why most states, including here in Washington, phased out the state names on the Interstate shields.
The reasoning for the neutered Interstate shields is some bean counters
who don't know how to math want the shields to be the same size as US or state highway shields installed on the same big green sign or sign post. And they want the numerals of the Interstate shields to be the same size as those on the US/state highway markers. That desire does not jive with basic geometry. It just doesn't freaking work. It's plain ignorance the bean counters force their "want" through anyway.
Most US and state highway markers are a simple white shape on a black background. They usually don't have a fancy banner going across the top like an Interstate highway shield (there are several exceptions though). A 24" X 24" US Highway marker will have 12" tall Series D numerals. Most state highway markers have the same treatment. A 24" X 24" Interstate shield is supposed to have 10" tall Series D numerals. That leaves just enough space for 1.5" tall Series D state name letters.
A neutered 24" X 24" Interstate shield will have 12" numerals
crammed into the space. Visually it sucks. The curvy, cut-out shield shape does not leave enough room for 12" numerals and that red "Interstate" banner on the top. So we have all these neutered Interstate shields installed in the field featuring oversized numerals that are often very crowded into the space. The results look terrible. And the results are not as legible as an Interstate shield that properly follows the spec in the SHS book. Letters and numerals need at least some negative space around them to be legible. Oversized numerals on many neutered Interstate shields are literally hugging the edges of the shield and in many cases look oddly off-center. It's actually less legible and just stupid looking.
If the red "Interstate" banner was deleted from the top of the shield, making the shield just a solid shape, then the larger numerals would fit. But then the Interstate shield design would look very boring compared to how it looks now.
The better looking solution would be to use larger Interstate shields. On a reassurance post sign they could install a 36" X 36" Interstate shield with 15" Series D numerals over 24" X 24" US/state highway markers with 12" numerals installed on the same post. I used to see some of that kind of treatment here in Oklahoma. ODOT has reverted back to making all the highway markers on the sign post the same size (probably to save money on materials costs). But at least ODOT is still making some state-named Interstate shields.
Found this I-490 shield in the Rochester, NY area.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.1739078,-77.7324513,3a,15y,195.05h,90.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYh0KEsFF0vtA8Hwx9WmFJw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en&authuser=0&entry=ttu
This one is located on NY-386 (Elmgrove Rd.) near NY-31.
EDIT: Replaced Google street view ling with an updated one.
Also, as of today that old sign is still there.
That shield in Rochester is badly faded. I doubt if it dates back to 1957, but it looks like it complies with the original 1957 specs.
Quote from: Amaury on November 02, 2022, 01:52:01 AM
I have to wonder why most states, including here in Washington, phased out the state names on the Interstate shields.
Don't forget Massachusetts. I'm 99% confident that there are a grand total of zero state named shields left in the Bay State. There used to be an I-195 in Fall River and an I-93 in Boston, but other than that, Massachusetts may be one of the few states that have no state named shields period.
Is the I-93 state named shield in Concord, NH still standing? If it is I'd love to get a photo of it one day before it disappears.
Quote from: Amaury on November 02, 2022, 01:52:01 AM
I have to wonder why most states, including here in Washington, phased out the state names on the Interstate shields. Maybe because an interstate doesn't "belong" to a particular state since it's one long line. For example, Interstate 90 is still Interstate 90, even after crossing the Washington-Idaho border. It's not like between Pullman, Washington, and Moscow, Idaho, where Washington State Route 270 ends and changes to Idaho State Highway 8 at the Washington-Idaho border down there.
The state names were put on the Interstate shields (and the 1926-1948 US shields, for that matter) to reassure the more independent-minded (read: "Southern") states that yes, they still own the roads even if the feds were fronting the money and deciding where they should be built. Look at you guys go, building all that Interstate mileage for us all on your own! How strong and independent of you! Truly the heroes America needs. Without that sort of flattery there was a real risk those rah-rah-states-rights states wouldn't have played ball.
Once the system was actually built there wasn't much need to keep puffing the states up, so the feds let the state name become optional.
Quote from: Rothman on November 02, 2022, 06:52:39 AM
MUTCD...
The state-name Interstate shield is still in the MUTCD, I'm pretty sure. And the standard drawing sheets in several states (Oklahoma and California are two I can remember seeing myself) still explicitly include the state name on the shield.
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 02, 2022, 09:29:27 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 02, 2022, 06:52:39 AM
MUTCD...
The state-name Interstate shield is still in the MUTCD, I'm pretty sure. And the standard drawing sheets in several states (Oklahoma and California are two I can remember seeing myself) still explicitly include the state name on the shield.
Utah, too. Their standards were updated with the most recent state MUTCD revision, which came out in 2012 and is why just about every interstate shield in the state installed since then has included the state name. If you see a neutered shield in Utah now, it is almost certainly over 10 years old.
Here's the important thing: Richard Oliver's original design of the Interstate highway shield was specifically meant to include the state name in the design as well as the red colored "Interstate" banner on the top. The numerals were significantly smaller in the original 1957 designs. Again, that was on purpose to give the numerals enough negative space surrounding them to aid legibility.
The numerals grew larger in later state-named Interstate shield designs to the current spec which calls for 10" numerals on a 24" tall shield.
Oklahoma has been sort of Jekyll and Hyde with its Interstate shields. I've seen a good bit of neutered shields in some places and state named shields in others. I swear ODOT goofed on some of its more recent state-named I-44 shields installed in the Lawton area because the numerals look like they're positioned a bit too low. It's like somebody is eye-balling the things rather than math-ing those things out correctly. Some recent big green signs in Oklahoma featuring Interstate shields have ditched the state names, but left the numerals in normal proportions rather than making them too big. But some of these BGS I-shield designs are featuring numerals a little more bold than usual, like E/M rather than D on the shield. Or maybe Font Bureau's Interstate Black typeface.
The E(M) Interstate shields are popping up like weeds all over the state. Pretty much every BGS shield in the OKC area is in E(M). And I've seen independent-mount E(M) shields for I-35 in Norman (state name!) and on I-40 in western Oklahoma (neutered).
Quote from: Rothman on November 02, 2022, 06:52:39 AM
MUTCD...
Georgia road plans explicitly say that Interstate highway shields must include Georgia.
Quote from: US 89 on November 02, 2022, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 02, 2022, 09:29:27 PM
The state-name Interstate shield is still in the MUTCD, I'm pretty sure. And the standard drawing sheets in several states (Oklahoma and California are two I can remember seeing myself) still explicitly include the state name on the shield.
Utah, too. Their standards were updated with the most recent state MUTCD revision, which came out in 2012 and is why just about every interstate shield in the state installed since then has included the state name. If you see a neutered shield in Utah now, it is almost certainly over 10 years old.
fixed quote tags -Alex
Quote from: Bobby5280 on November 02, 2022, 09:56:17 PM
I swear ODOT goofed ...
Safe bet.
Quote from: Big John on November 03, 2022, 07:55:50 AM
Quote from: US 89 on November 02, 2022, 09:55:59 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 02, 2022, 09:29:27 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 02, 2022, 06:52:39 AM
MUTCD...
Georgia road plans explicitly say that Interstate highway shields must include Georgia.
The state-name Interstate shield is still in the MUTCD, I'm pretty sure. And the standard drawing sheets in several states (Oklahoma and California are two I can remember seeing myself) still explicitly include the state name on the shield.
Utah, too. Their standards were updated with the most recent state MUTCD revision, which came out in 2012 and is why just about every interstate shield in the state installed since then has included the state name. If you see a neutered shield in Utah now, it is almost certainly over 10 years old.
Didn't preview.
State-named Interstate shields on some relatively new Clearview (ugh) BGS assemblies on southbound US-1 in Philly approaching its short concurrence with I-76.
GMSV link (https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0066286,-75.1936587,3a,19.3y,220.64h,96.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sI_gIT00J_GmUsbDIxZEV6g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Those I-76 shields may include the state name. But the "76" numerals are of the over-sized variety typically found on neutered shields. The numerals are kerned too tight and barely fit on the shield.
Given the fact the MUTCD specs are pretty clear, it's plainly obvious more than a few jerks out there working in highway sign departments (or positions above those departments) are overriding the MUTCD specs and ad-libbing their own demands. That's why we have so many crappy looking neutered Interstate shields installed in the field, shields featuring numerals way the hell too big to fit properly. I'm convinced it all comes down to certain jack-asses demanding the numerals on Interstate shields be in the same sizing proportions as numerals on US highway shields. Then all the shields have to be the same size. Laws of geometry be damned.
Found today in Rowan County, NC. Install date of March 2021. There are at least three of these newer type in Kannapolis. Two on US 29 and this one.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52758033376_1042dda4f4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oo3Hg7)To North Carolina I-85 (https://flic.kr/p/2oo3Hg7) by Adam Prince (https://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
That's a good looking I-85 shield.
Unfortunately, the Colorado pendulum is swinging back to neutered shields -- at least in Western Colorado.
Over the last 2 years, CDOT has replaced virtually all the mainline signage from BGSs to mile markers from the Utah line to the east end of Glenwood Canyon ‐- about 130 miles. All the mainline shields have been neutered, while about ⅔ of the shields/BGS at the interchanges have been neutered as well.
I don’t have a picture, but I was just in Concord and can confirm that the last remaining state named Interstate shield in New Hampshire is still standing along NH 9 near downtown Concord.
EDIT : Here's street view capture from July 2022
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2085847,-71.5370703,3a,26.9y,223.8h,102.31t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sXQP4KmNL5RliBreQCK40oQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DXQP4KmNL5RliBreQCK40oQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D180.05162%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
The Woodbridge rest area on I-95 northbound still has a couple of these old guys.
(https://thepracticalhoon.files.wordpress.com/2023/04/70412896895__83b1f669-e1c2-42a1-85b6-b56c9782cb05.jpg)
Quote from: bassoon1986 on August 08, 2018, 09:44:58 PM
Someone has posted this before, but I passed by there today. Mississippi shield for I-12 at the NASA exit just 2 miles east of Louisiana border
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180809/95ced6ee6d123143b7cd96090ac75252.jpg)
iPhone
I went through there this past weekend, and the I-12 shields have been replaced with ones with no state name on them. The I-10 shields still say Mississippi.
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3134338,-89.5950059,3a,36.1y,346.47h,87.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVry2_JcIoEYjlBKRzHCasA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3134338,-89.5950059,3a,36.1y,346.47h,87.38t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVry2_JcIoEYjlBKRzHCasA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)
Didn't get a picture of it, but I'm pretty sure I saw a state-named I-66 shield yesterday on US 522 North as it approaches I-66.
I have no idea why some people think smaller numbers on a shield is *more* legible than larger numbers
Florida don't generally use them https://www.flickr.com/photos/54480415@N08/52880594451/
But occasionally you will find them.
Quote from: ran4sh on May 29, 2023, 12:25:50 AM
I have no idea why some people think smaller numbers on a shield is *more* legible than larger numbers
Because margin space surrounding text is just as important for legibility as the size of the text. Large, cramped numbers are actually harder to read than smaller numbers with proper margins.
Quote from: Rothman on May 28, 2023, 10:38:02 PM
Didn't get a picture of it, but I'm pretty sure I saw a state-named I-66 shield yesterday on US 522 North as it approaches I-66.
Indeed
(https://i.imgur.com/rVrv657.jpeg)
Quote from: epzik8 on May 29, 2023, 08:51:44 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 28, 2023, 10:38:02 PM
Didn't get a picture of it, but I'm pretty sure I saw a state-named I-66 shield yesterday on US 522 North as it approaches I-66.
Indeed
(https://i.imgur.com/rVrv657.jpeg)
That's the one.
Quote from: Rothman on May 29, 2023, 08:53:08 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on May 29, 2023, 08:51:44 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 28, 2023, 10:38:02 PM
Didn't get a picture of it, but I'm pretty sure I saw a state-named I-66 shield yesterday on US 522 North as it approaches I-66.
Indeed
(https://i.imgur.com/rVrv657.jpeg)
That's the one.
Sorry for the oversized image
Quote from: epzik8 on May 29, 2023, 08:55:56 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 29, 2023, 08:53:08 AM
Quote from: epzik8 on May 29, 2023, 08:51:44 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 28, 2023, 10:38:02 PM
Didn't get a picture of it, but I'm pretty sure I saw a state-named I-66 shield yesterday on US 522 North as it approaches I-66.
Indeed
(https://i.imgur.com/rVrv657.jpeg)
That's the one.
Sorry for the oversized image
Looks fine to me.
Did I imagine this? This isn't the exactly right forum for this question, but you all are knowledgeable on these subjects:
I was driving the East Providence RI Expressway, I-195 toward Cape Cod last week, and out of the corner of my eye, probably within 10-15 miles of Providence heading east, I was sure I saw an interstate reassurance shield that read, not "195" but "I-195".
I can't find it on Googlemaps.
Maybe I imagined this phantom "I" after traveling for a hundred miles on "95" and in a split second, read the "195" as "I-195"?
Quote from: westerninterloper on May 29, 2023, 02:30:05 PM
Did I imagine this? This isn't the exactly right forum for this question, but you all are knowledgeable on these subjects:
I was driving the East Providence RI Expressway, I-195 toward Cape Cod last week, and out of the corner of my eye, probably within 10-15 miles of Providence heading east, I was sure I saw an interstate reassurance shield that read, not "195" but "I-195".
I can't find it on Googlemaps.
Maybe I imagined this phantom "I" after traveling for a hundred miles on "95" and in a split second, read the "195" as "I-195"?
You didn't imagine it, it has been there since at least 2014:
(https://www.aaroads.com/ri/195/i-195-e-exit-002-9.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/ri/195/i-195-e-exit-002-9.jpg)
Quote from: Alex on May 30, 2023, 08:03:55 AM
Quote from: westerninterloper on May 29, 2023, 02:30:05 PM
Did I imagine this? This isn't the exactly right forum for this question, but you all are knowledgeable on these subjects:
I was driving the East Providence RI Expressway, I-195 toward Cape Cod last week, and out of the corner of my eye, probably within 10-15 miles of Providence heading east, I was sure I saw an interstate reassurance shield that read, not "195" but "I-195".
I can't find it on Googlemaps.
Maybe I imagined this phantom "I" after traveling for a hundred miles on "95" and in a split second, read the "195" as "I-195"?
You didn't imagine it, it has been there since at least 2014:
(https://www.aaroads.com/ri/195/i-195-e-exit-002-9.jpg) (https://www.aaroads.com/ri/195/i-195-e-exit-002-9.jpg)
I've seen this sign in my travels. What is the rationale for the "I" ?
Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on May 30, 2023, 08:17:46 AM
I've seen this sign in my travels. What is the rationale for the "I" ?
Almost certainly just an error.
Quote from: Rothman on May 28, 2023, 10:38:02 PM
Didn't get a picture of it, but I'm pretty sure I saw a state-named I-66 shield yesterday on US 522 North as it approaches I-66.
You almost certainly did. At least in Northern Virginia, older-style state-named shields of the sort seen in Takumi's reply #611 in this thread are reasonably common in off-Interstate locations as guide markers leading to the Interstate. ("Reasonably common" meaning they're not all over the place but they're not rare.) In my unscientific observation, they're more common for 2dis (I-95 and I-66) than they are for 3dis (I-495 and I-395).
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 30, 2023, 08:51:53 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 28, 2023, 10:38:02 PM
Didn't get a picture of it, but I'm pretty sure I saw a state-named I-66 shield yesterday on US 522 North as it approaches I-66.
You almost certainly did. At least in Northern Virginia, older-style state-named shields of the sort seen in Takumi's reply #611 in this thread are reasonably common in off-Interstate locations as guide markers leading to the Interstate. ("Reasonably common" meaning they're not all over the place but they're not rare.) In my unscientific observation, they're more common for 2dis (I-95 and I-66) than they are for 3dis (I-495 and I-395).
Yep, I did, per the little conversation between me and epzik above, where he had a picture of the shield I mentioned.
Quote from: Rothman on May 30, 2023, 08:54:05 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 30, 2023, 08:51:53 AM
Quote from: Rothman on May 28, 2023, 10:38:02 PM
Didn't get a picture of it, but I'm pretty sure I saw a state-named I-66 shield yesterday on US 522 North as it approaches I-66.
You almost certainly did. At least in Northern Virginia, older-style state-named shields of the sort seen in Takumi's reply #611 in this thread are reasonably common in off-Interstate locations as guide markers leading to the Interstate. ("Reasonably common" meaning they're not all over the place but they're not rare.) In my unscientific observation, they're more common for 2dis (I-95 and I-66) than they are for 3dis (I-495 and I-395).
Yep, I did, per the little conversation between me and epzik above, where he had a picture of the shield I mentioned.
Ah. I skipped that part of the thread. The images were large enough to require scrolling, which I didn't feel like doing, so I didn't pay attention.
Quote from: jakeroot on May 30, 2023, 08:25:04 AM
Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on May 30, 2023, 08:17:46 AM
I've seen this sign in my travels. What is the rationale for the "I" ?
Almost certainly just an error.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48201165867_a26839bedd_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2grnziV)Interstate "I-195" East Providence, RI. (https://flic.kr/p/2grnziV) by mergingtraffic (https://www.flickr.com/photos/98731835@N05/), on Flickr
Found this in CT today
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52991166192_4f5765a1a5_c.jpg)
I drove up I-85 in North Carolina and I saw a state named I-85 shield off of Exit 212 in Henderson. Any other remaining NC shields around?
I know there's a post for a state named I-64 shield on the top of the Blue Ridge Mountains, but there's another one on Westbound US 250, I took a picture back on my December 10, 2022 trip. I don't know the current status of the sign:
(https://i.postimg.cc/d0PvHwGk/IMG-0964.jpg)
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on September 03, 2023, 07:18:42 PM
I drove up I-85 in North Carolina and I saw a state named I-85 shield off of Exit 212 in Henderson. Any other remaining NC shields around?
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=12304.msg2829788#msg2829788
My memories from childhood growing up in Delaware with its ~40 miles of interstate highway. No pictures unfortunately, these memories go back 40-50 years. I don't have any recent (meaning 21st century) memories of seeing these, so the map showing Delaware with few to none is probably accurate.
I definitely remember two state-named interstate shields on or near I-95.
One SB not that far south of where I-295 SB traffic merges in near DE 141, but before where I-95 NB and SB lanes come back together at eastern end of Churchman's Marsh. I always thought of this one as telling the NJ Turnpike traffic that you are now back on I-95.
Another one going eastbound on DE 92, where you turn left to get on ramp to I-95 NB. I always scratched my head at that one, because once you commit to that ramp, you are committed to entering PA as the state line is maybe 1000 feet north of there.
I also remember that there was one on I-295 NB just after I-295 separated from I-95 NB -- where I-295 is headed for Delaware Memorial Bridge, and I-95 is headed for Wilmington. Physically this was pretty close (less than 1/4 mile, if that) from the first I-95 one I mention above.
Unfortunately, I didn't get to see I-295 that often as we only used it maybe once or twice a year, to do a day trip to a NJ beach (Ocean City or Wildwood). The NJ beaches are closer, and back then Delaware 1 only came as far north as Milford which is south of Dover. To go to Delaware beaches back then, you had to go down US 13 and US 113 which went right through Odessa, Smyrna, Dover and other towns -- all with their traffic lights.
I always loved going over the Delaware Memorial Bridge and it was a rarity for me then to actually cross it. There are a lot of places you can see it from in northern Delaware if you know where to look.
I do not remember seeing any such signs on or near I-495. That highway did not open until 1976 or 1977, and therefore was later than the other two.
Thinking about it more, I also remember other I-95 ones at or near the exits near me, but I believe they are all long gone. I lived north of Wilmington and south of the state line). There are four exits in that area -- US 202, DE 3, Harvey Road (partial interchange), and DE 92.
The place to look in Delaware now would be in Wilmington itself in the area of Adams and Jackson Streets. I-95 goes between those two streets, and there are various on/off ramps there. The building of this road between those two streets was very controversial in the late '60s, but that is a different topic.
Quote from: tmoore952 on September 15, 2023, 04:13:46 PM
My memories from childhood growing up in Delaware with its ~40 miles of interstate highway. No pictures unfortunately, these memories go back 40-50 years. I don't have any recent (meaning 21st century) memories of seeing these, so the map showing Delaware with few to none is probably accurate.
I definitely remember two state-named interstate shields on or near I-95.
One SB not that far south of where I-295 SB traffic merges in near DE 141, but before where I-95 NB and SB lanes come back together at eastern end of Churchman's Marsh. I always thought of this one as telling the NJ Turnpike traffic that you are now back on I-95.
That one was one of the few state named shields for I-95 that were not from the 1960s. All others had the smaller numbers and larger borders. It was located just beyond the Sandbox, and adjacent to Old Airport Road (https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6966858,-75.6166551,3a,75y,241.54h,88.99t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sP1Rxyhs7zLKq4qQwUx49Kg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DP1Rxyhs7zLKq4qQwUx49Kg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D318.83115%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu). I only ever managed a brief capture of it on night time camcorder video from 1994, but I cannot find where that is. It was removed later that year.
Mall Road encircling Christiana Mall also had a number of state named I-95 shields with the 1970s design. They were removed sometime in 1995. There's a photo of one on the Shield Gallery (https://www.aaroads.com/shields/show.php?image=DE19790952).
Lastly there was an original shield for I-95 posted between the mainline and c/d roadway on southbound ahead of Exit 5 A for US 202/SR 141 south. This was replaced in 1996.
Quote from: tmoore952 on September 15, 2023, 04:13:46 PM
Another one going eastbound on DE 92, where you turn left to get on ramp to I-95 NB. I always scratched my head at that one, because once you commit to that ramp, you are committed to entering PA as the state line is maybe 1000 feet north of there.
I also remember that there was one on I-295 NB just after I-295 separated from I-95 NB -- where I-295 is headed for Delaware Memorial Bridge, and I-95 is headed for Wilmington. Physically this was pretty close (less than 1/4 mile, if that) from the first I-95 one I mention above.
Would have loved to see images of those, especially the I-295. I know there were no state named shields on SR 92 at I-95 by 1994. I never recalled the I-295 one.
Quote from: tmoore952 on September 15, 2023, 04:13:46 PM
I do not remember seeing any such signs on or near I-495. That highway did not open until 1976 or 1977, and therefore was later than the other two.
Never saw one for I-495 either. Delaware dropped the state named early, so it is likely that I-495 never had one to begin with.
Quote from: tmoore952 on September 15, 2023, 04:13:46 PM
Thinking about it more, I also remember other I-95 ones at or near the exits near me, but I believe they are all long gone. I lived north of Wilmington and south of the state line). There are four exits in that area -- US 202, DE 3, Harvey Road (partial interchange), and DE 92.
There was still one on Carr Road west ahead of the entrance ramp for I-95 north, and another on Washington Street Extension southbound where SR 3 turns onto Marsh Road. Both were removed in 2000. I have a 35mm photo of the one on Washington Street Extension around here somewhere.
Quote from: tmoore952 on September 15, 2023, 04:13:46 PM
The place to look in Delaware now would be in Wilmington itself in the area of Adams and Jackson Streets. I-95 goes between those two streets, and there are various on/off ramps there. The building of this road between those two streets was very controversial in the late '60s, but that is a different topic.
All gone except for the 18" trailblazer on 3rd Street.
Alex - thanks for the info re Delaware shields.
In addition to the Adams/Jackson Street area in Wilmington, other areas where they may have been in Wilmington are along DE 48 (Front Street), and DE 52 (Pennsylvania Avenue), and less likely DE 9 (4th Street), but farther away from the interstate than the Adams/Jackson Street area. Particularly in the directions where you are coming towards the interstate, but several blocks away (far enough that there would be a "TO" sign above these shields). When you say they are all gone, do you know if that includes those stretches of road?
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Not sure if mentioned already, but there is one I see everyday on I-270 Maryland southbound on the right side of the main lanes (or "express lanes") about 500-1000 feet north of the Montrose Road overpass. (the local radio station calls them "main lanes", but "express lanes" is probably a better description). This sign is somehow (I don't remember how) mounted on something which is atop a jersey barrier between the southbound "main lanes" and the southbound "local lanes".
Yes, all gone. The ones on SR 48/Lancaster Ave lasted the longest, with some still posted until 2016. The ones on SR 52/Delaware Av and Pennsylvania Av were replaced after 2001.
There was an 18" shield for I-95 on SR 9/4th St until at least 2004: https://www.aaroads.com/de/009/de-009-s-at-jackson-st-2.jpg
Most of the ones that were posted on SR 48: https://www.aaroads.com/albums/nggallery/delaware/delaware-route-48-archive/
The last one on SR 52 south, removed after 2001: https://www.aaroads.com/de/052/de-052-s-at-12th-st.jpg
Last northbound shield: https://www.aaroads.com/de/052/de-052-n-at-van-buren-st-3.jpg
Quote from: tmoore952 on September 20, 2023, 06:08:48 PM
Alex - thanks for the info re Delaware shields.
In addition to the Adams/Jackson Street area in Wilmington, other areas where they may have been in Wilmington are along DE 48 (Front Street), and DE 52 (Pennsylvania Avenue), and less likely DE 9 (4th Street), but farther away from the interstate than the Adams/Jackson Street area. Particularly in the directions where you are coming towards the interstate, but several blocks away (far enough that there would be a "TO" sign above these shields). When you say they are all gone, do you know if that includes those stretches of road?
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Not sure if mentioned already, but there is one I see everyday on I-270 Maryland southbound on the right side of the main lanes (or "express lanes") about 500-1000 feet north of the Montrose Road overpass. (the local radio station calls them "main lanes", but "express lanes" is probably a better description). This sign is somehow (I don't remember how) mounted on something which is atop a jersey barrier between the southbound "main lanes" and the southbound "local lanes".
VA 207 at I-95:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53424986803_bdba74813e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2poZ2h8)Interstate 95 Virginia Shield (https://flic.kr/p/2poZ2h8) by Adam Prince (https://www.flickr.com/photos/adamontheroad/), on Flickr
^^ Off topic, but the JCT banner is not supposed to have an enlarged J.
Quote from: Big John on December 31, 2023, 08:59:55 AM
^^ Off topic, but the JCT banner is not supposed to have an enlarged J.
I think the "C" looks to be a little off-placed as well???
Quote from: Big John on December 31, 2023, 08:59:55 AM
^^ Off topic, but the JCT banner is not supposed to have an enlarged J.
Phooey. Jct you.
On my trip home from West Virginia earlier in the week, I noticed a number of I-77 and I-64 signs that don't have the state name. Previously, the only place I had seen interstate markers without "West Virginia" on them were a couple of stray I-68 signs around Morgantown.
Quote from: hbelkins on December 31, 2023, 06:54:15 PM
On my trip home from West Virginia earlier in the week, I noticed a number of I-77 and I-64 signs that don't have the state name. Previously, the only place I had seen interstate markers without "West Virginia" on them were a couple of stray I-68 signs around Morgantown.
Is it possible they were ordered through a contractor?
Quote from: freebrickproductions on January 01, 2024, 05:45:54 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on December 31, 2023, 06:54:15 PM
On my trip home from West Virginia earlier in the week, I noticed a number of I-77 and I-64 signs that don't have the state name. Previously, the only place I had seen interstate markers without "West Virginia" on them were a couple of stray I-68 signs around Morgantown.
Is it possible they were ordered through a contractor?
I would need to check my photos to be sure, but I believe that at least one of them has the West Virginia "watermark" in the sign margin, indicating that it's a state installation.
I also noticed a bunch of state-named interstate shields in California on my recent trip there. Some of these look more recently posted. I know it's commonplace in California, but that's one of the few places where I've seen many more recent state-named shields (I haven't really seen recent state named shields in New Jersey)
(https://i.imgur.com/b5EHbrd.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KHOOyS7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EVdVtDr.jpg)
Quote from: boilerup25 on January 08, 2024, 08:48:42 PM
I also noticed a bunch of state-named interstate shields in California on my recent trip there. Some of these look more recently posted. I know it's commonplace in California, but that's one of the few places where I've seen many more recent state-named shields (I haven't really seen recent state named shields in New Jersey)
(https://i.imgur.com/b5EHbrd.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KHOOyS7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EVdVtDr.jpg)
State-named shields are actually standard in California.
Quote from: boilerup25 on January 08, 2024, 08:48:42 PM
(I haven't really seen recent state named shields in New Jersey)
There are some recent-looking ones on the northern section of I-295, though they've been there as long as I can remember, possibly dating to when that stretch first opened. Here is an example:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.134133,-74.7158196,3a,37.7y,188.28h,80.06t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sSbw3rRzcqidDI9cK-HhTlA!2e0!5s20220901T000000!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
A NYC made state-named I-87 shield in the Bronx, NYC.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52739243071_4778d2d7a1_k.jpg)
and Queens, NYC
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51020590691_68c63fb61c_k.jpg)
I assume this has been shared before, but I was watching this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6xfQnM9CX8) when I happened to spot this rather well worn-out state-named I-90 shield (https://www.google.com/maps/@47.0145737,-114.2303261,3a,15y,66.19h,83.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLneP4DvpYz-0QNPTPM59GQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) in Frenchtown, MT.
I think there has been some previous discussion about the state-named shields around Hackensack, NJ. Anyway, here's one of them in Hasbrouck Heights, if you zoom in:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53554612565_7539460261_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pArov4)
Roadgeeks: Vermont state-named shields, please.
Also roadgeeks: "...not like that!"
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53570637625_9f5f2e4b5e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pBRwcc)
To be fair, it's on the New Hampshire side of Route 9, and they also have forgotten how to place the state name.
...I don't hate it?
This is a picture I took of a Virginia named TO I-64 sign in Charlottesville from exactly a year ago:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Qx7HHZ24/IMG-2051.jpg)
Taken 3/11/23.
Charlottesville has several state named shields still left around.
Recently installed state-named shields in Richmond, VA:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/BJpPjJ9MKieNqBsW6
Found this state-named I-65 shield in downtown Indianapolis, IN, a few days ago:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53647295511_b6aaaa1d25.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pJCpUT)
IMG_7461 (https://flic.kr/p/2pJCpUT) by freebrickproductions (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96431468@N06/), on Flickr
Quote from: mglass87 on March 27, 2024, 05:35:01 AMRecently installed state-named shields in Richmond, VA:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/BJpPjJ9MKieNqBsW6
I find it almost hilarious that they replaced the old interstate shields with an almost exact replica, right down to the specs! Either way I'm glad the state names remain.