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Started by US71, June 08, 2018, 10:26:45 AM

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abefroman329

Quote from: SP Cook on June 27, 2018, 03:24:50 PMThere are also lots of people who claim they can taste the difference, but no double blind taste test has ever produced anyone who actually can.

Maybe not (although I'll fight you to the death over whether pop tastes better when packaged in a glass bottle or an aluminum can), but if you can sell pop made with sugar for $1 more than pop made with HFCS, and it only costs ten cents to make, both producer and consumer will walk away from that transaction completely happy.


MNHighwayMan

I was with you up until this point:

Quote from: SP Cook on June 27, 2018, 03:24:50 PM
There is all sorts of junk science about the supposed bad effects of HFCS.  It is all loonie toons stuff.  HFCS is totally safe.  There are also lots of people who claim they can taste the difference, but no double blind taste test has ever produced anyone who actually can.

Go ahead, drink a gallon of HFCS, and let me know how that turns out for you.

US71

Quote from: abefroman329 on June 27, 2018, 03:31:36 PM
Quote from: SP Cook on June 27, 2018, 03:24:50 PMThere are also lots of people who claim they can taste the difference, but no double blind taste test has ever produced anyone who actually can.

Maybe not (although I'll fight you to the death over whether pop tastes better when packaged in a glass bottle or an aluminum can), but if you can sell pop made with sugar for $1 more than pop made with HFCS, and it only costs ten cents to make, both producer and consumer will walk away from that transaction completely happy.

I noticed last week Jolt Cola is available again at Casey's General Store.
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cjk374

Speaking of IHOB/IHOP & Coke, IHOP sells Pepsi crap. I really hate this, not just because of the soda choice. Their sweet tea leaves alot to be desired.
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US71

Quote from: SP Cook on June 27, 2018, 03:24:50 PM


There is all sorts of junk science about the supposed bad effects of HFCS.  It is all loonie toons stuff.  HFCS is totally safe.  There are also lots of people who claim they can taste the difference, but no double blind taste test has ever produced anyone who actually can.



it's not junk science that my friend who has a corn allergy can't drink anything with HFCS. As for me. sugar formula tastes more bubbly and less flat than HFCS
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hbelkins

Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 27, 2018, 06:48:19 PM
I was with you up until this point:

Quote from: SP Cook on June 27, 2018, 03:24:50 PM
There is all sorts of junk science about the supposed bad effects of HFCS.  It is all loonie toons stuff.  HFCS is totally safe.  There are also lots of people who claim they can taste the difference, but no double blind taste test has ever produced anyone who actually can.

Go ahead, drink a gallon of HFCS, and let me know how that turns out for you.

Probably wouldn't be any worse than eating a pound of sugar.


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Quote from: SP Cook on June 27, 2018, 03:24:50 PM
There is all sorts of junk science about the supposed bad effects of HFCS.  It is all loonie toons stuff.  HFCS is totally safe.  There are also lots of people who claim they can taste the difference, but no double blind taste test has ever produced anyone who actually can.

American Heinz ketchup and Canadian Heinz ketchup are chiefly separated by the former using HFCS, and the latter using cane sugar. They do taste different; I personally prefer the Canadian recipe.

SP Cook

Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 27, 2018, 06:48:19 PM

Go ahead, drink a gallon of HFCS, and let me know how that turns out for you.

Go ahead and drink, eat, inhale or otherwise ingest an massive overdose of about anything and let me know how that turns out for you.  Overdosing and then claiming some bad effect is one of the key elements of junk science, and, because of trial lawyers, why we cannot have nice things.

In the moderate amounts used, any product in any food, including HFCS, so-called GMOs (memo: people have been modifying the genetics of food since the dawn of mankind), or whatever else are 100% safe.


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Quote from: SP Cook on June 28, 2018, 09:54:21 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 27, 2018, 06:48:19 PM

Go ahead, drink a gallon of HFCS, and let me know how that turns out for you.

Go ahead and drink, eat, inhale or otherwise ingest an massive overdose of about anything and let me know how that turns out for you.  Overdosing and then claiming some bad effect is one of the key elements of junk science, and, because of trial lawyers, why we cannot have nice things.

In the moderate amounts used, any product in any food, including HFCS, so-called GMOs (memo: people have been modifying the genetics of food since the dawn of mankind), or whatever else are 100% safe.

HFCS is worse than regular sugar.

However, GMOs are safe. I think that any food that advertises "no GMOs" as a selling point has to put a disclaimer that no difference in health has been found.
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abefroman329

Quote from: 1 on June 28, 2018, 10:56:24 AMI think that any food that advertises "no GMOs" as a selling point has to put a disclaimer that no difference in health has been found.

Why?  We don't require that of organic food, and there's nothing to suggest that organic food is actually better for you.

paulthemapguy

Quote from: 1 on June 28, 2018, 10:56:24 AM
HFCS is worse than regular sugar.

However, GMOs are safe. I think that any food that advertises "no GMOs" as a selling point has to put a disclaimer that no difference in health has been found.

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Quote from: abefroman329 on June 28, 2018, 11:16:33 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 28, 2018, 10:56:24 AMI think that any food that advertises "no GMOs" as a selling point has to put a disclaimer that no difference in health has been found.

Why?  We don't require that of organic food, and there's nothing to suggest that organic food is actually better for you.

Remember, arsenic is organic.

abefroman329

Quote from: GaryV on June 28, 2018, 04:39:46 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on June 28, 2018, 11:16:33 AM
Quote from: 1 on June 28, 2018, 10:56:24 AMI think that any food that advertises "no GMOs" as a selling point has to put a disclaimer that no difference in health has been found.

Why?  We don't require that of organic food, and there's nothing to suggest that organic food is actually better for you.

Remember, arsenic is organic.

And cocaine is gluten-free.

cjk374

Organic: that which contains carbon. Therefore, all fruits & veggies, no matter how processed, are organic.

Even humans are organic. So are turds. Organic label = fat stax! $$$  :pan:
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MNHighwayMan

Quote from: cjk374 on June 28, 2018, 05:09:19 PM
Organic: that which contains carbon. Therefore, all fruits & veggies, no matter how processed, are organic.

Even humans are organic. So are turds. Organic label = fat stax! $$$  :pan:

So chalk is organic? Not sure if you'd call calcium carbonate (or any metal-carbonate compound) organic.

kkt

Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 27, 2018, 06:48:19 PM
I was with you up until this point:

Quote from: SP Cook on June 27, 2018, 03:24:50 PM
There is all sorts of junk science about the supposed bad effects of HFCS.  It is all loonie toons stuff.  HFCS is totally safe.  There are also lots of people who claim they can taste the difference, but no double blind taste test has ever produced anyone who actually can.

Go ahead, drink a gallon of HFCS, and let me know how that turns out for you.

What would that prove?  I couldn't drink a gallon of ANYthing, even water, at a sitting without bad effects.

US71

ihop is officially back, just in time for their 60th Anniversary and offering a deal on pancakes.

The way they keep changing their name, I wonder if they should be IHOW International House of Waffles ;)
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dcharlie

Quote from: 1 on June 28, 2018, 10:56:24 AM
Quote from: SP Cook on June 28, 2018, 09:54:21 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on June 27, 2018, 06:48:19 PM

Go ahead, drink a gallon of HFCS, and let me know how that turns out for you.

Go ahead and drink, eat, inhale or otherwise ingest an massive overdose of about anything and let me know how that turns out for you.  Overdosing and then claiming some bad effect is one of the key elements of junk science, and, because of trial lawyers, why we cannot have nice things.

In the moderate amounts used, any product in any food, including HFCS, so-called GMOs (memo: people have been modifying the genetics of food since the dawn of mankind), or whatever else are 100% safe.

HFCS is worse than regular sugar.

However, GMOs are safe. I think that any food that advertises "no GMOs" as a selling point has to put a disclaimer that no difference in health has been found.

For me, If I drink regular Mt. Dew made with HFCS, my knees start aching almost immediately.  I don't have that problem if I drink Mt. Dew Throwback (made with real sugar), plus the taste difference is amazing.  I really don't like regular Mt. Dew that much anymore, but will drink Throwback every chance I get...

PHLBOS

Quote from: US71 on July 10, 2018, 11:56:04 AM
ihop is officially back, just in time for their 60th Anniversary and offering a deal on pancakes.

The way they keep changing their name, I wonder if they should be IHOW International House of Waffles ;)
Apparently the whole name change thing was just a promotional stunt.  Source.
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: PHLBOS on July 10, 2018, 01:32:47 PM
Quote from: US71 on July 10, 2018, 11:56:04 AM
ihop is officially back, just in time for their 60th Anniversary and offering a deal on pancakes.

The way they keep changing their name, I wonder if they should be IHOW International House of Waffles ;)
Apparently the whole name change thing was just a promotional stunt.  Source.

I'm shocked this is still news.  They said from the get-go they weren't changing their name.  The gotta-pounce-on-it-media and gullible public ate it up though...

jakeroot

No one thought they were actually changing their name, right? It's a classic promo stunt. Classic.

hbelkins

Quote from: dcharlie on July 10, 2018, 01:20:26 PM
For me, If I drink regular Mt. Dew made with HFCS, my knees start aching almost immediately.  I don't have that problem if I drink Mt. Dew Throwback (made with real sugar), plus the taste difference is amazing.  I really don't like regular Mt. Dew that much anymore, but will drink Throwback every chance I get...

That may be a sign of gout. I've heard that HFCS can be a trigger for a gout flare. Trust me, I know all about gout in the knees.


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US71

Quote from: PHLBOS on July 10, 2018, 01:32:47 PM
Quote from: US71 on July 10, 2018, 11:56:04 AM
ihop is officially back, just in time for their 60th Anniversary and offering a deal on pancakes.

The way they keep changing their name, I wonder if they should be IHOW International House of Waffles ;)
Apparently the whole name change thing was just a promotional stunt.  Source.
Pretty much what I thought

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dcharlie

Quote from: hbelkins on July 10, 2018, 02:43:37 PM
Quote from: dcharlie on July 10, 2018, 01:20:26 PM
For me, If I drink regular Mt. Dew made with HFCS, my knees start aching almost immediately.  I don't have that problem if I drink Mt. Dew Throwback (made with real sugar), plus the taste difference is amazing.  I really don't like regular Mt. Dew that much anymore, but will drink Throwback every chance I get...

That may be a sign of gout. I've heard that HFCS can be a trigger for a gout flare. Trust me, I know all about gout in the knees.

I am definitely bone on bone.  But I am learning that what I eat and drink makes a big difference in knee pain.  I do best on gluten free, but get sick of that pretty quickly...

US71

Quote from: hbelkins on July 10, 2018, 02:43:37 PM
Quote from: dcharlie on July 10, 2018, 01:20:26 PM
For me, If I drink regular Mt. Dew made with HFCS, my knees start aching almost immediately.  I don't have that problem if I drink Mt. Dew Throwback (made with real sugar), plus the taste difference is amazing.  I really don't like regular Mt. Dew that much anymore, but will drink Throwback every chance I get...

That may be a sign of gout. I've heard that HFCS can be a trigger for a gout flare. Trust me, I know all about gout in the knees.
I have a friend who can't eat anything with corn, so HFCS is basically poison to her.

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