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Locally Maintained Limited Access Roads

Started by Max Rockatansky, May 12, 2019, 02:56:30 PM

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kurumi

Mohegan Sun Boulevard in Montville, CT has a limited-access section with a few onramps and offramps, but not a complete interchange: https://goo.gl/maps/5n6wjXujAyj68Y3eA

I believe it's maintained by the casino instead of the town. It's not a state road.
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DJ Particle

Quote from: kurumi on May 18, 2019, 01:08:50 AM
Mohegan Sun Boulevard in Montville, CT has a limited-access section with a few onramps and offramps, but not a complete interchange: https://goo.gl/maps/5n6wjXujAyj68Y3eA

I believe it's maintained by the casino instead of the town. It's not a state road.

The area around Mystic Lake casino in Minnesota is starting to resemble that.  When I first moved here (1998), the casino was serviced by a rural 2-lane county highway (County 83 - Canturbury Rd) a few miles south of US-169, with a single entrance for the complex.

These days, said county highway is now a divided expressway (still County highway 83), there's a major business center around the interchange with US-169, a convenience store at the intersection with County 42.  The road south of 169 has been renamed "Mystic Lake Drive", and the main entrance to the casino is A PARTIAL INTERCHANGE OFF SAID COUNTY HIGHWAY...BGSs and everything.

Google Maps doesn't have a street view or satellite of the current configuration yet, but here's how the area near the offramp looked only 6 years ago.  Google's actual *map* of the area shows the current config:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.7381782,-93.4702266,3a,75y,190.16h,93.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soJFFuaq-qF_Fgbt6twHUZQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Ian

Quote from: kurumi on May 18, 2019, 01:08:50 AM
Mohegan Sun Boulevard in Montville, CT has a limited-access section with a few onramps and offramps, but not a complete interchange: https://goo.gl/maps/5n6wjXujAyj68Y3eA

I believe it's maintained by the casino instead of the town. It's not a state road.

While the road might be casino maintained, I love that their overhead signage are mounted on ConnDOT's classic "crucifix" gantries!
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MNHighwayMan

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Quote from: DJ Particle on May 27, 2019, 03:24:29 AM
These days, said county highway is now a divided expressway (still County highway 83), there's a major business center around the interchange with US-169, a convenience store at the intersection with County 42.  The road south of 169 has been renamed "Mystic Lake Drive", and the main entrance to the casino is A PARTIAL INTERCHANGE OFF SAID COUNTY HIGHWAY...BGSs and everything.

Google Maps doesn't have a street view or satellite of the current configuration yet, but here's how the area near the offramp looked only 6 years ago.  Google's actual *map* of the area shows the current config:
https://www.google.com/maps/@44.7381782,-93.4702266,3a,75y,190.16h,93.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1soJFFuaq-qF_Fgbt6twHUZQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I find something ironic about the fact that they filled in part of Mystic Lake to build that road.

froggie

Quote from: DJ ParticleGoogle Maps doesn't have a street view or satellite of the current configuration yet

Turn off Globe and it shows the most recent satellite view with the current configuration.

Quote from: MNHighwayManI find something ironic about the fact that they filled in part of Mystic Lake to build that road.

Noticed that too.  Is this tribal land?  If so, that might be why they were able to do so.

TheStranger

Is the section of Kearny Villa Road at Miramar MCAS in San Diego (between Pomerado Road and the Cabrillo Freeway/Route 163/former US 395) that used to be US 395 and later I-15 now maintained locally, or is that still CalTrans maintained?
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Academy Blvd. in Colorado Springs used to be CO-83 but was relinquished to the city some years back. There is a segment north of I-25 on the south end of Academy that has a couple of interchanges, at U.S. 85-87 and Bradley Road, which date back to when it was maintained by CDOT. But just north of there is also an interchange with Milton Proby Parkway, which replaced Drennan Road as the access road to the airport, an interchange that was built by the city.
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MikeTheActuary

I'm surprised that these haven't already been mentioned.

In Memphis:

The controlled-access portion of Sam Cooper Blvd. was the original alignment of I-40 inside I-240.  It was offloaded to the City of Memphis after I-40 was realigned to the northern half of the I-240 loop, following cancellation of the completion of the interstate through the city.

Plough Blvd and Jim McGee Parkway together make up the city-maintained freeway connection between I-240 and Memphis International Airport.

oscar

Quote from: TheStranger on May 31, 2019, 01:49:33 AM
Is the section of Kearny Villa Road at Miramar MCAS in San Diego (between Pomerado Road and the Cabrillo Freeway/Route 163/former US 395) that used to be US 395 and later I-15 now maintained locally, or is that still CalTrans maintained?

Caltrans' online bridge log for District 11 includes no Route 15U (or other 15__ route) entry that might cover Kearney Villa Rd. So I guess it was transferred out of Caltrans' inventory to local maintenance.

That bridge log does have a Route 8U entry in Imperial County, for part of what is now signed as the I-8 Business Loop across the river from Yuma AZ.
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WillWeaverRVA

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Most of VA 195, the segment of VA 76 between I-195 and the City of Richmond/Chesterfield County line, and VA 146 are maintained by the Richmond Metropolitan Transportation Authority. All of these are full freeways.

The segment of VA 150 within the City of Richmond is maintained by the city...although not well as the road is pretty much falling apart. All but about a 1-mile long stretch of this segment is full freeway, but posted at 45 mph because the city is seemingly allergic to higher speed limits (this segment and the portion of VA 147 south of the James River are the ONLY roads in the City of Richmond posted at 45 mph, except for very brief segments of US 360 and VA 10 entering from Chesterfield).
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Beltway

Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on June 04, 2019, 09:25:40 AM
The segment of VA 150 within the City of Richmond is maintained by the city...although not well as the road is pretty much falling apart.

Where is that?  The segment between the railroad and the river is a year or two beyond where it needed resurfacing, but it is still relatively smooth and is not troughed out.
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TheStranger

Quote from: oscar on June 04, 2019, 09:23:19 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on May 31, 2019, 01:49:33 AM
Is the section of Kearny Villa Road at Miramar MCAS in San Diego (between Pomerado Road and the Cabrillo Freeway/Route 163/former US 395) that used to be US 395 and later I-15 now maintained locally, or is that still CalTrans maintained?

Caltrans' online bridge log for District 11 includes no Route 15U (or other 15__ route) entry that might cover Kearney Villa Rd. So I guess it was transferred out of Caltrans' inventory to local maintenance.

That bridge log does have a Route 8U entry in Imperial County, for part of what is now signed as the I-8 Business Loop across the river from Yuma AZ.

In the San Diego area, that Fairmount Avenue expressway fits the thread title...while what is now State Route 15 between I-805 and I-5 was originally built as an unnumbered local road, Wabash Boulevard, before becoming State Route 103 from 1964-1969 (not sure if signed) and then gaining State Route 15 signage 1969-1970 (as seen in the recent threads about US 395/Route 163).
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WillWeaverRVA

Quote from: Beltway on June 04, 2019, 07:01:49 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on June 04, 2019, 09:25:40 AM
The segment of VA 150 within the City of Richmond is maintained by the city...although not well as the road is pretty much falling apart.

Where is that?  The segment between the railroad and the river is a year or two beyond where it needed resurfacing, but it is still relatively smooth and is not troughed out.

The portion near Forest Hill Ave is pretty rough, and the ramps and accel/decel lanes within that interchange need to be resurfaced.
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WillWeaverRVA

Quote from: RobbieL2415 on June 05, 2019, 01:24:25 PM
Surprised no one mentioned the road network of Disney World.

It was mentioned. In the very first reply to this thread, even.
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Beltway

Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on June 05, 2019, 09:05:18 AM
Quote from: Beltway on June 04, 2019, 07:01:49 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on June 04, 2019, 09:25:40 AM
The segment of VA 150 within the City of Richmond is maintained by the city...although not well as the road is pretty much falling apart.
Where is that?  The segment between the railroad and the river is a year or two beyond where it needed resurfacing, but it is still relatively smooth and is not troughed out.
The portion near Forest Hill Ave is pretty rough, and the ramps and accel/decel lanes within that interchange need to be resurfaced.

The mainline is still minimally acceptable, although like I said an ideal resurfacing time would have been one to two years ago.

The pavement on the Stony Point Parkway ramps is -horrendous- and the pavement on Stony Point Parkway itself in the interchange area is pretty bad.
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WillWeaverRVA

Quote from: Beltway on June 05, 2019, 03:51:03 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on June 05, 2019, 09:05:18 AM
Quote from: Beltway on June 04, 2019, 07:01:49 PM
Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on June 04, 2019, 09:25:40 AM
The segment of VA 150 within the City of Richmond is maintained by the city...although not well as the road is pretty much falling apart.
Where is that?  The segment between the railroad and the river is a year or two beyond where it needed resurfacing, but it is still relatively smooth and is not troughed out.
The portion near Forest Hill Ave is pretty rough, and the ramps and accel/decel lanes within that interchange need to be resurfaced.

The mainline is still minimally acceptable, although like I said an ideal resurfacing time would have been one to two years ago.

The pavement on the Stony Point Parkway ramps is -horrendous- and the pavement on Stony Point Parkway itself in the interchange area is pretty bad.

Oh, you're right about that, the Stony Point Pkwy interchange is positively awful. Considering the level of development currently happening in the Stony Point Parkway area (with new apartments and townhomes under construction along the north side of the mall), the city really needs to put that on whatever priority list it has for resurfacing.
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Beltway

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Quote from: WillWeaverRVA on June 05, 2019, 04:56:16 PM
Quote from: Beltway on June 05, 2019, 03:51:03 PM
The pavement on the Stony Point Parkway ramps is -horrendous- and the pavement on Stony Point Parkway itself in the interchange area is pretty bad.
Oh, you're right about that, the Stony Point Pkwy interchange is positively awful. Considering the level of development currently happening in the Stony Point Parkway area (with new apartments and townhomes under construction along the north side of the mall), the city really needs to put that on whatever priority list it has for resurfacing.

I wonder if that is the original 1990 pavement from when that interchange was built!

There was a period of at least a few years before Stony Point Parkway was extended and buildings built along it.  Didn't connect to anything at first, even though it was open to traffic; just a few hundred feet of roadway on each side of VA-150.
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sprjus4

Quote from: Beltway on June 05, 2019, 09:37:51 PM
I wonder if that is the original 1990 pavement when that interchange was built!

There was a period of at least a few year before Stony Point Parkway was extended and buildings built along it.
It's almost as the city doesn't even care for that stretch of VA-150.

Here in Chesapeake, they just repaved a good 2-mile portion of VA-168 this past month. Though, they use a weak type of pavement, not a strong interstate/freeway-grade pavement you'd normally see, which makes for a not-so-smooth ride. The toll road portion was recently done with a weaker pavement formula back in 2012, and while it's generally smooth, it's not the smoothest I'd expect on a freeway. Up-and-down here and there, and sort of bumpy. But I suppose the stronger pavement VDOT uses on interstates / state-maintained freeways is more expensive.

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Beltway

Quote from: plain on June 05, 2019, 10:07:13 PM
Repaving has NEVER been Richmond's strong suit..

The road that aggravates me is Forest Hill Avenue west of VA-150, the 4-lane section that was widened about 1985.  At least 10 years overdue for resurfacing.
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sprjus4

Quote from: Beltway on June 05, 2019, 10:24:19 PM
Quote from: plain on June 05, 2019, 10:07:13 PM
Repaving has NEVER been Richmond's strong suit..

The road that aggravates me is Forest Hill Avenue west of VA-150, the 4-lane section that was widened about 1985.  At least 10 years overdue for resurfacing.
To Richmond, 1985 was 10 years ago. They'll get to it in 10 years hopefully.

Beltway

Quote from: sprjus4 on June 05, 2019, 10:32:13 PM
Quote from: Beltway on June 05, 2019, 10:24:19 PM
Quote from: plain on June 05, 2019, 10:07:13 PM
Repaving has NEVER been Richmond's strong suit..
The road that aggravates me is Forest Hill Avenue west of VA-150, the 4-lane section that was widened about 1985.  At least 10 years overdue for resurfacing.
To Richmond, 1985 was 10 years ago. They'll get to it in 10 years hopefully.

Actually, Richmond has kept lots of roads well resurfaced. 
But then I see a number that have fallen thru the cracks so to speak.
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sprjus4

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Quote from: Beltway on June 05, 2019, 11:20:08 PM
Actually, Richmond has kept lots of roads well resurfaced. 
But then I see a number that have fallen thru the cracks so to speak.
Odd. Here in Chesapeake, the city maintains all of the roads well and resurfaces every them every 10-15 years for the most part. Even the narrow 2-lane ones out in the country are smooth, and a lot have recently been repaved. If there's a pothole on any roadway, you report it to the city, and it's filled within a day or two.

I suppose there's just a larger budget here than Richmond. And I thought some of our roads were bad! I suppose it's a good thing Richmond doesn't maintain any real freeways per se, like Chesapeake does with US-17 and VA-168, but rather are covered by VDOT's maintenance.

Beltway

Quote from: sprjus4 on June 05, 2019, 11:33:10 PM
Quote from: Beltway on June 05, 2019, 11:20:08 PM
Actually, Richmond has kept lots of roads well resurfaced. 
But then I see a number that have fallen thru the cracks so to speak.
Odd. Here in Chesapeake, the city maintains all of the roads well and resurfaces every them every 10-15 years for the most part. Even the narrow 2-lane ones out in the country are smooth, and a lot have recently been repaved. If there's a pothole on any roadway, you report it to the city, and it's filled within a day or two.
I suppose there's just a larger budget here than Richmond. And I thought some of our roads were bad! I suppose it's a good thing Richmond doesn't maintain any real freeways per se, like Chesapeake does with US-17 and VA-168, but rather are covered by VDOT's maintenance.

I'll bet the median income in Chesapeake is quite a bit more, just like with Chesterfield and Henrico counties.

RMTA is a local freeway administration agency independent of VDOT, although it has equal numbers of board members from the city and two counties.  Its highway facilities are entirely within the city, the Powhite Parkway, Downtown Expressway and Boulevard Bridge.
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