Long stretches of interstate without 3dis

Started by Molandfreak, August 28, 2013, 02:54:57 AM

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Flint1979

I think that US-52 between the Twin Cities and Rochester is fine as well. I haven't been on that highway in that stretch in probably about 10 years or so but used it a lot to get between Minneapolis and Rochester and vice versa and it was fine. Just thinking in my head and not looking at a map I had thought that I-35 would have been the way to go to Rochester but then after looking at a map and US-52 I figured out why it was better to take US-52.


TheHighwayMan3561

If an I- was sought, it makes more sense to give it another x94. No one from MSP is using 52/90 to go to Wisconsin.
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MantyMadTown

Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on March 22, 2019, 08:20:02 PM
If an I- was sought, it makes more sense to give it another x94. No one from MSP is using 52/90 to go to Wisconsin.

They are if they're going to La Crosse and parts of SW Wisconsin.

I think the x94 designation is a good idea if MnDOT wants to upgrade all of US 52 from St. Paul to Rochester into a freeway in the future.
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TheHighwayMan3561

Heh. I forgot there's other stuff besides Madison for people to go to. Weird.
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Flint1979

Quote from: MantyMadTown on March 22, 2019, 09:26:00 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on March 22, 2019, 08:20:02 PM
If an I- was sought, it makes more sense to give it another x94. No one from MSP is using 52/90 to go to Wisconsin.

They are if they're going to La Crosse and parts of SW Wisconsin.

I think the x94 designation is a good idea if MnDOT wants to upgrade all of US 52 from St. Paul to Rochester into a freeway in the future.
Yeah I was thinking of that. What if they are going to La Crosse?

jp the roadgeek

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I-91 has no children between Chicopee, MA and the Canadian border (about 222 miles).  Eastern I-84 has no children until you're 3 miles short of crossing 2 states (about 123 miles)
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

mgk920

Quote from: MantyMadTown on March 22, 2019, 09:26:00 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on March 22, 2019, 08:20:02 PM
If an I- was sought, it makes more sense to give it another x94. No one from MSP is using 52/90 to go to Wisconsin.

They are if they're going to La Crosse and parts of SW Wisconsin.

I think the x94 designation is a good idea if MnDOT wants to upgrade all of US 52 from St. Paul to Rochester into a freeway in the future.

Don't forget the I-90/US 52 interchange itself, it is NOT fully up to I-standards and would have to be rebuilt in a manner similar to what WisDOT is now doing at I-39/90/I-43/WI 81 in Beloit, WI.

Mike

SSOWorld

Quote from: mgk920 on March 23, 2019, 10:01:11 AM
Quote from: MantyMadTown on March 22, 2019, 09:26:00 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on March 22, 2019, 08:20:02 PM
If an I- was sought, it makes more sense to give it another x94. No one from MSP is using 52/90 to go to Wisconsin.

They are if they're going to La Crosse and parts of SW Wisconsin.

I think the x94 designation is a good idea if MnDOT wants to upgrade all of US 52 from St. Paul to Rochester into a freeway in the future.

Don't forget the I-90/US 52 interchange itself, it is NOT fully up to I-standards and would have to be rebuilt in a manner similar to what WisDOT is now doing at I-39/90/I-43/WI 81 in Beloit, WI.

Mike
At least that's a cloverleaf - the 52/90 one is a parclo.
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MikieTimT

Quote from: bugo on September 19, 2013, 12:30:24 AM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on August 28, 2013, 12:14:12 PM
If and when I-49 gets completely built from downtown New Orleans to Kansas City, the results are about 900 miles. This is assuming that 49 gets built through downtown Shreveport instead of on the loop resulting in a I-149 spur or the like.

I expect MO 249 will eventually be I-249.

I-49 should actually be realigned along MO-249 with a new alignment connection on the north end to where I-49 has the 90 degree turns north of Carthage.  Even as it is, it's faster than taking the shared I-44 segment, and that's with a set of traffic lights to get back on I-49.

MantyMadTown

Quote from: MikieTimT on March 23, 2019, 10:40:46 AM
Quote from: bugo on September 19, 2013, 12:30:24 AM
Quote from: bassoon1986 on August 28, 2013, 12:14:12 PM
If and when I-49 gets completely built from downtown New Orleans to Kansas City, the results are about 900 miles. This is assuming that 49 gets built through downtown Shreveport instead of on the loop resulting in a I-149 spur or the like.

I expect MO 249 will eventually be I-249.

I-49 should actually be realigned along MO-249 with a new alignment connection on the north end to where I-49 has the 90 degree turns north of Carthage.  Even as it is, it's faster than taking the shared I-44 segment, and that's with a set of traffic lights to get back on I-49.

Yeah, to me that stretch doesn't make sense. I think it would be better to upgrade the I-49/MO-249 interchange and make the current I-49 stretch a spur.
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kphoger

Quote from: MantyMadTown on March 22, 2019, 09:26:00 PM

Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on March 22, 2019, 08:20:02 PM
No one from MSP is using 52/90 to go to Wisconsin.

They are if they're going to La Crosse and parts of SW Wisconsin.

I think I've actually done something similar while heading from MSP to Madison (and Chicago), although the details are a bit fuzzy in my memory.  As I recall, traffic was all jammed up on I-494 in Bloomington.  I realized that right after it was too late to take I-35W south as an alternate route, so I instead got immediately over and took 3 of the 4 loop ramps to get on southbound I-35W anyway.  At Medford I headed east on a combination of county highways until I eventually hit US-14 somewhere west of Rochester.  From there, I took I-90 to Tomah and rejoined my usual route.
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froggie

Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on March 22, 2019, 08:20:02 PMNo one from MSP is using 52/90 to go to Wisconsin.

I have.  Especially when my parents lived in the south Metro...

webny99

Quote from: froggie on March 25, 2019, 09:28:11 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on March 22, 2019, 08:20:02 PMNo one from MSP is using 52/90 to go to Wisconsin.
I have.  Especially when my parents lived in the south Metro...

Yep, same here (except with my grandparents). In fact that is the recommended route from my home in Upstate NY to their home in Lakeville, MN.

Flint1979

Quote from: webny99 on March 25, 2019, 09:44:09 PM
Quote from: froggie on March 25, 2019, 09:28:11 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on March 22, 2019, 08:20:02 PMNo one from MSP is using 52/90 to go to Wisconsin.
I have.  Especially when my parents lived in the south Metro...

Yep, same here (except with my grandparents). In fact that is the recommended route from my home in Upstate NY to their home in Lakeville, MN.
That makes sense considering Lakeville is south of the Twin Cities.



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