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Grand Parkway H, I-1 and I-2

Started by TXtoNJ, August 25, 2016, 04:12:15 PM

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TheBox


Re: Houston: SH 99 Grand Parkway widening
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2022, 04:56:36 PM »
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Also, a closer look

SH 99/Grand Parkway @ US-90:
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.0044657,-94.9434413,3a,75y,54.83h,86.11t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sQ6yiC69Cdw9JVXYDI5vVYg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DQ6yiC69Cdw9JVXYDI5vVYg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D68.848%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.0145335,-94.9307662,3a,75y,230.39h,83.91t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNJJksezxuxK4KfgsUb7vkg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DNJJksezxuxK4KfgsUb7vkg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D304.6033%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1

SH 99/Grand Parkway @ SH 146:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.8677439,-94.8931353,3a,75y,23.02h,75.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSrwQsDwxT6cHt1OlFQADLw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1

SH 99/Grand Parkway @ IH-10:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.8253178,-94.8568958,3a,75y,266.78h,84.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sY2Kn_fVXoBXFMxUF77laFQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.8234753,-94.8758787,3a,15y,83.37h,88.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUCOdcllZClelkSWEtSC_IA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.8166019,-94.8616271,3a,15y,342.69h,88.02t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHjw3m7FDXuXVKGjC5AWTLg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.8239764,-94.8665925,3a,75y,119.1h,79.49t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stsR7rvm0A9dHAs_FZ6jIsg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1

SH 99/Grand Parkway @ Baytown area:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.8029082,-94.8678467,3a,75y,20.28h,80.84t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sGuLXk00ZuFwBfkWFPGUl_Q!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DGuLXk00ZuFwBfkWFPGUl_Q%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D289.01016%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.8040308,-94.8681648,3a,75y,208.04h,83.35t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s7jmTJlF0_E5XSjs8Qzhl-g!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D7jmTJlF0_E5XSjs8Qzhl-g%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D280.53275%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7311734,-94.8770763,3a,75y,43.12h,83.74t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sj5GomOu-HtSsTD_y9fc7zg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Dj5GomOu-HtSsTD_y9fc7zg%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D157.19954%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7331798,-94.876146,3a,75y,210.9h,83.67t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sX9tT_ajC5rkUB1G8elxmdw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DX9tT_ajC5rkUB1G8elxmdw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D113.03552%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7202657,-94.9342198,3a,75y,69.36h,87.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sAtK90DZGWsWUraAe4MsGJQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DAtK90DZGWsWUraAe4MsGJQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D307.64926%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7276903,-94.9142444,3a,75y,259.75h,81.28t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sX_fbzQSJGsT-AL5eb-9cAQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DX_fbzQSJGsT-AL5eb-9cAQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D167.27115%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7198219,-94.9461934,3a,75y,265.55h,91.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIP_DF8ScUmK5utZkvd0bTg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7207307,-94.9612616,3a,75y,84.47h,87.9t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sFMicLNoWBskwcnu_Py5w0g!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DFMicLNoWBskwcnu_Py5w0g%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D278.16232%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7139991,-94.9812327,3a,75y,55.54h,87.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s60BVY1uYk6DvR9khNmUG4A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1

SH 146 Freeway extension:
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.5848681,-95.0292621,3a,75y,205.26h,86.47t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sVRqfNp2TEIjrVcOxWcK3kA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DVRqfNp2TEIjrVcOxWcK3kA%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D144.99644%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.5579894,-95.0247504,3a,75y,175.98h,90.21t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sbUvVm3L2zdSQUkiosvxXLw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DbUvVm3L2zdSQUkiosvxXLw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D169.68153%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.5280044,-95.0122121,3a,15y,331.11h,88.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sMaEev6yKZ2kZIyCg_6taLQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?authuser=1
Wake me up when they upgrade US-290 between the state's largest city and growing capital into expressway standards if it interstate standards.

Giddings bypass, Elgin bypass, and Elgin-Manor freeway/tollway when?

TheBox

Quote from: yakra on January 16, 2022, 08:46:06 PM
SE of I-69 on the NE side of Houston, "Construction is anticipated to last through spring 2022" on Segments H and I-1.

SE of I-60 on the SW side of Houston:
Segment A "is currently not considered a viable project."
Segment B: "Construction has not been scheduled yet."
Segment C has its Est. Complete Date listed on the Project Tracker as TBD. Although this page says "Completion Date: 2016". :poke:
Wake me up when they upgrade US-290 between the state's largest city and growing capital into expressway standards if it interstate standards.

Giddings bypass, Elgin bypass, and Elgin-Manor freeway/tollway when?

rte66man

Google Maps shows the NE segment to be open. Haven't seen any announcements. Anyone had a chance to drive it?
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Bobby5280

There is some fairly recent Street View imagery in areas around the NE segment of the Grand Parkway dated 12/2021. Not on the main lanes of it, but on intersecting roads. Google Earth shows two carriageways in some locations, but the Street View imagery suggests there is only one 2 lane segment, such as the intersection with CR 603. Farther South in Kemah there is newer 1/2022 Street View imagery showing construction progress on that segment of the Grand Parkway.

roadman65

https://www.sh146.com/#:~:text=The%20SH%20146%20Expansion%20is,the%20construction%20contract%20to%20Webber.


At Clear Lake and SH Nasa Road 1, work is at the most as of today, though most of the elevated freeway is constructed along it's planned corridor.

Drove it just now.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

thisdj78

Quote from: rte66man on April 10, 2022, 09:02:19 PM
Google Maps shows the NE segment to be open. Haven't seen any announcements. Anyone had a chance to drive it?

Around Christmas, I drove on the Grand Parkway Segment I-2 from Baytown to I-10 and it didn't look like it was close to ready north of I-10. But maybe they got a lot done in the last 3-4 months.

roadman65

It looks like the project to make freeway upgrades in Seabrook and Kemah currently is five months ahead of schedule. However it was once a year ahead and now got pushed back seven months.

So hopefully the October 23 completion will hold.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

armadillo speedbump

#33
Quote from: rte66man on April 10, 2022, 09:02:19 PM
Google Maps shows the NE segment to be open. Haven't seen any announcements. Anyone had a chance to drive it?

Now shown as closed until late June.

Soon.

Edit:  And not long after posting, Google Maps went from showing the entire NE quadrant with the closed red striping to just a couple of short sections.  But Chrome has become incompetent crap for a lot of websites lately, so I have no idea what y'all may see.

thisdj78

Quote from: armadillo speedbump on April 13, 2022, 07:30:39 PM
Quote from: rte66man on April 10, 2022, 09:02:19 PM
Google Maps shows the NE segment to be open. Haven't seen any announcements. Anyone had a chance to drive it?

Now shown as closed until late June.

Soon.

Edit:  And not long after posting, Google Maps went from showing the entire NE quadrant with the closed red striping to just a couple of short sections.  But Chrome has become incompetent crap for a lot of websites lately, so I have no idea what y'all may see.

The google maps app on my phone is still showing it completely open.

Great Lakes Roads

https://communityimpact.com/houston/lake-houston-humble-kingwood/transportation/2022/05/16/txdot-grand-parkway-segments-from-new-caney-to-baytown-set-to-open-may-19/

It's official: the Grand Parkway's segments H, I-1, and I-2 will be opening to traffic on May 19th, and tolling then will begin two days after opening on May 21st.

Chris

I think this could be the largest single highway opening in the history of Houston? This stretch of highway is almost 40 miles long, even though only about half is actually a four lane divided highway.

For historic reference:


sprjus4

Am I the only one that thinks is premature to only have 2 lanes on a good portion of this? Development is quickly following the newer portions that have opened over the past few years, and some of the stretches in the last 10-15 years are getting near needing 6 lanes already.

I feel like, at minimum, this entire highway should have been a minimum of a four lane highway. Not to mention, it's function as a highway for the overall system, it should meet minimum interstate standards.

TXtoNJ

Quote from: sprjus4 on May 17, 2022, 05:18:35 PM
Am I the only one that thinks is premature to only have 2 lanes on a good portion of this? Development is quickly following the newer portions that have opened over the past few years, and some of the stretches in the last 10-15 years are getting near needing 6 lanes already.

I feel like, at minimum, this entire highway should have been a minimum of a four lane highway. Not to mention, it's function as a highway for the overall system, it should meet minimum interstate standards.

That's a nice notion, but the main reason it was built in the reduced capacity is exactly because the area needs a facility. Acquiring the needed funds for a full four-lane interstate-quality road would have taken much longer.

Bobby5280

I'm sure those 2 lane sections of the Grand Parkway will be upgraded to 4-lane divided in a relatively short amount of time. Those sections won't be Super-2 over the long term, unlike parts of US-82 between McKinney and Paris or the 2-lane toll road around Tyler.

Thegeet

When can we expect the highway to be fully four lanes?

Bobby5280

My guess for how long it takes to add the second pair of lanes: 5 to 10 years at the most.

That guess assumes current growth trends in the Houston metro continue for years to come, which seems very likely. Even with a serious economic downturn the state of Texas will probably still continue to draw population from California and the Northeast US.

sprjus4

Any idea what the speed limit will be on the new section, in the interim with 2 lanes?

Despite Houston's general 65 mph limit on most roads, the newest portion of the Grand Parkway near I-69 North is posted at 75 mph. I imagine the new 4 lane portion will either be a default 70 mph (then raised later, similar to the recent US-183 situation in Austin) or immediately 75 mph, then the two lane portion 65 mph or 70 mph (though ideally 75 mph the whole way).

TXtoNJ

My best guess would be 75 mph, since these will be in Montgomery, Liberty, and Chambers Counties. Harris County seems the most enthusiastic about maintaining the 65-70 limits.


Great Lakes Roads

#45
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 18, 2022, 12:40:44 AM
Any idea what the speed limit will be on the new section, in the interim with 2 lanes?

Despite Houston's general 65 mph limit on most roads, the newest portion of the Grand Parkway near I-69 North is posted at 75 mph. I imagine the new 4 lane portion will either be a default 70 mph (then raised later, similar to the recent US-183 situation in Austin) or immediately 75 mph, then the two lane portion 65 mph or 70 mph (though ideally 75 mph the whole way).

Quote from: TXtoNJ on May 18, 2022, 09:33:56 AM
My best guess would be 75 mph, since these will be in Montgomery, Liberty, and Chambers Counties. Harris County seems the most enthusiastic about maintaining the 65-70 limits.

The speed limit is signed at 70 mph until you get to south of FM 565/FM 2354 interchange where it drops back down to 65 mph.

yakra

"Officer, I'm always careful to drive the speed limit no matter where I am and that's what I was doin'." Said "No, you weren't," she said, "Yes, I was." He said, "Madam, I just clocked you at 22 MPH," and she said "That's the speed limit," he said "No ma'am, that's the route numbah!"  - Gary Crocker

TXtoNJ

Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on May 20, 2022, 06:59:07 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on May 18, 2022, 12:40:44 AM
Any idea what the speed limit will be on the new section, in the interim with 2 lanes?

Despite Houston's general 65 mph limit on most roads, the newest portion of the Grand Parkway near I-69 North is posted at 75 mph. I imagine the new 4 lane portion will either be a default 70 mph (then raised later, similar to the recent US-183 situation in Austin) or immediately 75 mph, then the two lane portion 65 mph or 70 mph (though ideally 75 mph the whole way).

Quote from: TXtoNJ on May 18, 2022, 09:33:56 AM
My best guess would be 75 mph, since these will be in Montgomery, Liberty, and Chambers Counties. Harris County seems the most enthusiastic about maintaining the 65-70 limits.

The speed limit is signed at 70 mph until you get to south of FM 565/FM 2354 interchange where it drops back down to 65 mph.

Boo

Thegeet

I believe since these countries are assigned to the Houston District by TxDOT, they are 65/70 mph.

bwana39

#49
Quote from: Thegeet on May 23, 2022, 10:55:25 AM
I believe since these counties are assigned to the Houston District by TxDOT, they are 65/70 mph.


It isn't the TxDOT districts. It is the particular county and the individual county's (environmental) attainment zone rules. Harris county is still not waivered. All of the roads inside Harris County are 65 mph or less.  Montgomery and Chambers counties have waivers and have speeds up to 75 MPH (Like in North Texas). UP to, they can be set for less.

BTW. The intersection of FM 565 is in Chambers county which is in the Beaumont TxDOT District. The I-69 / Grand Parkway intersection is in Montgomery County which does belong to the Houston TxDOT district but is outside Harris County. .
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