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Started by Alps, September 17, 2013, 07:00:19 PM

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roadman65

Why did NJDOT replace Kennedy with JFK? 
https://goo.gl/maps/Hq9yWPqkWH1fbtPW8
It's all the same. We know Kennedy usually is JFK.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

roadman65

Here is I-287 written out in text ( though faded badly, but still can be made out) but using " Rt"  instead of "I."

Shows how everything in New Jersey is a route and why they don't duplicate route numbers.
https://goo.gl/maps/ouYscRPucUyKaRQL9
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

ixnay

Quote from: roadman65 on February 16, 2023, 02:47:38 PM
Here is I-287 written out in text ( though faded badly, but still can be made out) but using " Rt"  instead of "I."

Shows how everything in New Jersey is a route and why they don't duplicate route numbers.
https://goo.gl/maps/ouYscRPucUyKaRQL9

The text started fading out sometime between Sept. 2018 and Oct. 2019.
The Washington/Baltimore/Arlington CSA has two Key Bridges, a Minnesota Avenue, and a Mannasota Avenue.

storm2k

Quote from: roadman65 on February 16, 2023, 07:31:03 AM
Why did NJDOT replace Kennedy with JFK? 
https://goo.gl/maps/Hq9yWPqkWH1fbtPW8
It's all the same. We know Kennedy usually is JFK.

Essex County officially calls it the JFK Parkway so it makes sense for the name to match. Can't assume everyone knows they're the same thing. It's more amazing that there's a couple of signs like that in that area they have survived this long with non-reflective button copy signs.

roadman65

Noticed the NJ 124 button copy used for Kennedy was all upper case despite Livingston in mixed case. Usually thats a Garden State Parkway thing capitalizing the street name but allowing the control cities to be both.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

dgolub

Quote from: roadman65 on February 16, 2023, 07:31:03 AM
Why did NJDOT replace Kennedy with JFK? 
https://goo.gl/maps/Hq9yWPqkWH1fbtPW8
It's all the same. We know Kennedy usually is JFK.

I've noticed NYCDOT starting to do the same thing with respect to the airport.

roadman65

#4182
https://goo.gl/maps/KZEiN9Y4mJ52JGFf7
Does anyone know why there  is a SB US 202 shield on WB NJ 124 at James Street?  Considering James Street does not intersect US 202, that sign is misleading.

I do remember though that Maple Avenue used to connect to SB US 202 before Market Street was converted to a one way for US 202 NB. Could that be the case?  It is a worthy scenario as assuming that this sign was left over from that as motorists would turn left on James, right on Maple, and left on former two way Market.

Plus I remember the black on white Route 202 south sign so it's probably careless copying from when they updated the signs.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

storm2k

Quote from: roadman65 on February 18, 2023, 07:56:12 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/KZEiN9Y4mJ52JGFf7
Does anyone know why there  is a SB US 202 shield on WB NJ 124 at James Street?  Considering James Street does not intersect US 202, that sign is misleading.

I do remember though that Maple Avenue used to connect to SB US 202 before Market Street was converted to a one way for US 202 NB. Could that be the case?  It is a worthy scenario as assuming that this sign was left over from that as motorists would turn left on James, right on Maple, and left on former two way Market.

Plus I remember the black on white Route 202 south sign so it's probably careless copying from when they updated the signs.

If you look at the historical GSVs, there was an old rotting black on white with no shield sign that likely got replaced in a sign replacement contract because it was replace-in-kind.

roadman65

https://www.nj.com/news/2023/02/from-mega-projects-to-regional-highways-these-are-njdots-top-10-construction-projects-in-2023.html

This maybe old, but came up on Social Media about NJDOT projects.

Plus in last post look at what I said about the old black on white shields as I do remember those. I implied that NJDOT carelessly copied over in a sign replacement project.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

jeffandnicole

Quote from: roadman65 on February 20, 2023, 03:33:12 PM
https://www.nj.com/news/2023/02/from-mega-projects-to-regional-highways-these-are-njdots-top-10-construction-projects-in-2023.html

This maybe old, but came up on Social Media about NJDOT projects.

Plus in last post look at what I said about the old black on white shields as I do remember those. I implied that NJDOT carelessly copied over in a sign replacement project.

It's paywalled.

And they got the very first picture wrong. That's the overpass from 42 North to 295 South, part of the $180 million missing moves project, a totally separate project from the $900 million (and well above that) Direct Connection project referenced.

roadman65

Hopefully someone will write NJ.com an editorial and mention Larry Higgs is reporting like certain propaganda news reporters without checking the facts.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

Mr. Matté


ixnay

The Washington/Baltimore/Arlington CSA has two Key Bridges, a Minnesota Avenue, and a Mannasota Avenue.

roadman65

Quote from: Mr. Matté on February 21, 2023, 12:19:58 PM
Why don't you?

I don't know enough about the I-295 project to debate the accuracy of the article.  Jeff knows it as he lives nearby and saw the inaccuracy of it.   
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

jeffandnicole

Quote from: roadman65 on February 26, 2023, 07:24:55 AM
Quote from: Mr. Matté on February 21, 2023, 12:19:58 PM
Why don't you?

I don't know enough about the I-295 project to debate the accuracy of the article.  Jeff knows it as he lives nearby and saw the inaccuracy of it.   

I saw the author and could pretty much guarantee there was some inaccuracy to it.

Unlike, say, Dr. Gridlock of the Washington Post, the author of that story appears he was told he would be covering transportation and transit stories whether he wanted to or not.  His well-meaning stories are generally recaps of press releases, short on facts, and while they may pass muster with most of the newspaper's readers, anyone with a bit more info commonly will find some...or a lot of...inaccuracies.

Another newspaper company, the (Camden) Courier Post, had a similar person.  His stories were really bad.  He had no knowledge of the subject, and I kinda wonder if he wrote them in a manner that would just irritate the readers against NJDOT.  Their current reporter who gets some transportation/transit stories isn't much better.

In a state known for its congested roads, its tolls, and its state-wide transit system, the media has generally decided to ignore transportation issues and construction projects except in some rare cases, and getting someone to actually care about their story is even more rare.

NJRoadfan

Saw the NJ-140 bridge damage today. That...... was quite an impact. Looks like NJDOT removed the two damaged girders from the bridge over the northbound lanes of I-295 already. That repair is going to take a bit of time to finish.

roadman65

Quote from: NJRoadfan on February 26, 2023, 08:15:10 PM
Saw the NJ-140 bridge damage today. That...... was quite an impact. Looks like NJDOT removed the two damaged girders from the bridge over the northbound lanes of I-295 already. That repair is going to take a bit of time to finish.
The detour around it would have to be US 40 & The Turnpike overlap I assume?
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

jeffandnicole

What I find a bit interesting is NJDOT for some reason never signs NJ 140 on any signage approaching the exits for 140.  Yet construction signage for a project in the area, along with all the discussion from NJDOT regarding this crash, mentions NJ 140 prominently.

The Straight-Line maps also give NJ 140 different names.  In the detail, on the US 130 SLD, it's called Slapes Corner Road.  On the NJ 140 SLD, it's East Hawks Road.  The maps, including on the US 40 & I-295 SLDs, it's properly called Hawks Bridge Road.

Quote from: roadman65 on February 27, 2023, 01:35:51 AM
Quote from: NJRoadfan on February 26, 2023, 08:15:10 PM
Saw the NJ-140 bridge damage today. That...... was quite an impact. Looks like NJDOT removed the two damaged girders from the bridge over the northbound lanes of I-295 already. That repair is going to take a bit of time to finish.
The detour around it would have to be US 40 & The Turnpike overlap I assume?

Depends on your origin and destination.  Much of it involves going on US 130 or US 40 between this point and NJ 48.  WB traffic on 140 West can take 295 North to NJ 48 (Exit 4) and make a u-turn.  Traffic on 140 East can take the unmarked Hook Rd exit, or turn onto 295 South then take Exit 2A for Hook Rd.  There's a jughandle for a u-turn about 1/2 mile down the road, which leads you back to 295 North to Exit 2 B/C for 140 East.

famartin

Quote from: jeffandnicole on February 27, 2023, 09:59:45 PM
What I find a bit interesting is NJDOT for some reason never signs NJ 140 on any signage approaching the exits for 140.  Yet construction signage for a project in the area, along with all the discussion from NJDOT regarding this crash, mentions NJ 140 prominently.

What's even funnier is that while NJDOT doesn't sign 140 from 295, NJTA does sign it on the Turnpike southbound!
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.6807662,-75.4735629,3a,75y,255.8h,83.94t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_OifEYYsyLkv2YiLU77rFw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

roadman65

Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

famartin

Quote from: roadman65 on February 28, 2023, 01:17:01 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/yxpa4yzb1guaz2Np6
https://goo.gl/maps/zEVRoRQRY79bcTf86

It's signed along the route.
Yes but... "on any signage approaching the exits for 140" is what Jeff said, which is true.

roadman65

Yes I am aware 2B-C just uses US 40 and 130 due to it being short route.  But it's not totally ignored like it once was.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

roadman65

Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

SignBridge

If you like blue signs you should have been on the New York Thruway and the Connecticut Turnpike back in the 1960's. LOL I like both blue and green. I think they're equally effective.



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