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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #425 on: November 16, 2022, 03:32:28 PM »

Different topic but Austin related:

Has there ever been any plans to upgrade US183 from the SH45/130 split (south of the airport) to SH71?

Seems like a logical corridor to convert to limited-access at some point.

wont happen because the alternate is 71 to 130 on the toll road.  The slower 183 is the more people who use the toll road.

Thatís fine for now, but with Tesla in the areaÖ.I expect the southeast Austin area and points south to grow at a much faster rate than previous years. That corridor will need a limited access upgrade at some point.
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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #426 on: November 16, 2022, 09:24:21 PM »



Womp Womp

I love more lanes = more traffic guy......where do I start?

Dunning Krueger Syndrome on full display folks. I can see the thought bubble: "I read an article on Wired saying that adding lanes worsens congestion so I'm smarter than professional highway engineers".
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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #427 on: November 16, 2022, 10:15:07 PM »



Womp Womp

I love more lanes = more traffic guy......where do I start?
More traffic is already coming with or without lanes guy. Where do I start?
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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #428 on: November 16, 2022, 10:33:43 PM »

The worst thing about these fools is not only are they in certain denial about traffic levels on I-35, but they have the myopic belief that converting an already gridlocked 6- to 8- lane freeway with frontage roads into a four lane surface boulevard without even worrying about upgrading or improving any alternative routes such as SH 130 or SH 45 (because bikes and walkways and rail will magically rescue them) will solve all their woes. The real issue is not "more lanes = more traffic"; the issue is an already congested freeway that will simply get worse if no action is done; and most certainly will get worse if limited access is removed just for the sake of vindicating old vendettas about "freeways destroying communities".

Again, I'm all for more balanced transportation alternatives, and for Complete Streets improvements that add walkability and bike ability to upgrade neighborhoods. And we could use more rail based transit here in the US to take the load off the highways. But, tearing down important freeway corridors that serve critical traffic needs just to please some "urban removalists"? HELL TO THE NO.
 
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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #429 on: November 16, 2022, 10:47:28 PM »

I almost hate to say it but I kinda would be interested to see the boulevard concept happen just to watch it fail so spectacularly and be a reminder to the rest of the country why that idea is so stupid. As if it needed to be proven in the first place but hey. Just thinking for fun, if they really went with the boulevard, I wonder how long itíd take residents to propose a new freeway tunnel or convert the boulevard back into a freeway.

Thatíd be a funny show to watch especially since I rarely visit Austin itíd likely never impact me lol
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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #430 on: November 16, 2022, 10:47:53 PM »

People don't come out of nowhere.  They come from other roads.  Eliminate I-35 completely and they'll have to go somewhere. 
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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #431 on: November 16, 2022, 10:48:26 PM »

I almost hate to say it but I kinda would be interested to see the boulevard concept happen just to watch it fail so spectacularly and be a reminder to the rest of the country why that idea is so stupid. As if it needed to be proven in the first place but hey. Just thinking for fun, if they really went with the boulevard, I wonder how long itíd take residents to propose a new freeway tunnel or convert the boulevard back into a freeway.

Thatíd be a funny show to watch especially since I rarely visit Austin itíd likely never impact me lol

But they won't ever admit it failed.  They'd show how wonderful it was and scratch their heads why traffic is so bad everywhere else.
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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #432 on: November 16, 2022, 11:02:55 PM »

I almost hate to say it but I kinda would be interested to see the boulevard concept happen just to watch it fail so spectacularly and be a reminder to the rest of the country why that idea is so stupid. As if it needed to be proven in the first place but hey. Just thinking for fun, if they really went with the boulevard, I wonder how long itíd take residents to propose a new freeway tunnel or convert the boulevard back into a freeway.

Thatíd be a funny show to watch especially since I rarely visit Austin itíd likely never impact me lol

But they won't ever admit it failed.  They'd show how wonderful it was and scratch their heads why traffic is so bad everywhere else.
I think the residents in Austin would get so fed up theyíd start an initiative to bring it back if that ever happened. Thankfully that has about a -1% chance of happening.
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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #433 on: November 16, 2022, 11:07:44 PM »

If I-35 was turned into a surface boulevard through central Austin it would kill a lot of business in the downtown area. Lots of people who work in the downtown area would no longer want to drive there (they probably hate the commute enough as it is). All those night life crowds along 6th Street would drop off in number quite a bit.
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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #434 on: November 25, 2022, 11:52:55 PM »

I was driving on 45 Toll SE this evening (westbound towards I-35) and noticed there is some construction activity going on in the median (location linked below). Anyone know whatís going on there? I wasnít able to take any pictures, maybe I can try tomorrow when I pass thru again.

I know the connector segment (west of I-35) is still a few years off, so it canít be related to that:

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https://goo.gl/maps/r9uBPdKenMbagn3u5
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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #435 on: November 26, 2022, 12:53:21 AM »



Womp Womp

You think that "Our City Our Choice" girl keeps that sign around in her closet for every protest she attends? It looks awfully reusable.
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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #436 on: November 26, 2022, 02:31:18 PM »

I was driving on 45 Toll SE this evening (westbound towards I-35) and noticed there is some construction activity going on in the median (location linked below). Anyone know whatís going on there? I wasnít able to take any pictures, maybe I can try tomorrow when I pass thru again.

I know the connector segment (west of I-35) is still a few years off, so it canít be related to that:

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https://goo.gl/maps/r9uBPdKenMbagn3u5

Hereís a few pictures (this is westbound 45 Toll SE):



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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #437 on: November 28, 2022, 07:30:16 PM »

I-35 worst in state for trucks:. https://www.kvue.com/article/traffic/i-35-ranked-top-highway-for-gridlock-conditions/269-66795fde-6c7f-4579-9d0c-991c38340eda

Maybe Austin is just happy without freeway expansion.  With more boutique culture than the rest of the state, might they want to leave heavy industrial to other places?
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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #438 on: December 01, 2022, 04:46:16 PM »

I-35 worst in state for trucks:. https://www.kvue.com/article/traffic/i-35-ranked-top-highway-for-gridlock-conditions/269-66795fde-6c7f-4579-9d0c-991c38340eda

Maybe Austin is just happy without freeway expansion.  With more boutique culture than the rest of the state, might they want to leave heavy industrial to other places?

They got Tesla moving in, so no.
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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #439 on: December 08, 2022, 06:05:00 AM »

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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #440 on: December 12, 2022, 04:13:28 PM »

They got Tesla moving in, so no.

Tesla's on the tolled bypass some in the city want IH 35 to be moved to (SH 130/45 @ Tesla Rd)
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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #441 on: March 12, 2023, 09:37:53 PM »

I was driving on 45 Toll SE this evening (westbound towards I-35) and noticed there is some construction activity going on in the median (location linked below). Anyone know whatís going on there? I wasnít able to take any pictures, maybe I can try tomorrow when I pass thru again.

I know the connector segment (west of I-35) is still a few years off, so it canít be related to that:

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https://goo.gl/maps/r9uBPdKenMbagn3u5

Hereís a few pictures (this is westbound 45 Toll SE):



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Passed by this area again yesterday evening. A lot of construction equipment in this same spot. I canít tell if they are building something there or using the area to store for a project nearby (I-35?).

Anybody else seen this and know whatís going on here?
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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #442 on: March 12, 2023, 10:31:09 PM »

Passed by this area again yesterday evening. A lot of construction equipment in this same spot. I canít tell if they are building something there or using the area to store for a project nearby (I-35?).

Anybody else seen this and know whatís going on here?

The activity is almost surely a staging area for the imminent work on I-35 from SH 45 to US 290. Bids were opened for the $548 million project in May 2022. As usual, it takes a very long time for projects to actually start.

http://www.dot.state.tx.us/insdtdot/orgchart/cmd/cserve/bidtab/05053202.htm

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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #443 on: March 27, 2023, 09:42:48 PM »

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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #444 on: March 30, 2023, 03:19:51 PM »

TxDot put this out 3 years ago for hwy 79.

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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #445 on: March 30, 2023, 07:52:57 PM »

TxDot put this out 3 years ago for hwy 79.


Itís odd that on the Mays Rd/79 intersection, they would use the NW property for part of the Cloverleaf vs. the NE side where thereís wide open land.

Anyway, they need to make US79 limited access (or a super street) all the way from I-35 to Taylor.
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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #446 on: April 05, 2023, 10:16:19 PM »

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« Reply #447 on: April 13, 2023, 09:10:07 PM »

Ē TxDOT is expected to announce the finalized version of the projectís design and scope in August, with a targeted construction start date in mid-2024. The project is anticipated to take eight years to complete, with an estimated finish by 2033.Ē

https://www.kxan.com/traffic/traffic-projects/i-35-expansion-project/txdot-unveils-new-design-proposals-for-i-35-expansion/
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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #448 on: April 13, 2023, 10:48:18 PM »

Concepts for architectural enhancements of crossings

https://my35capex.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/VOICE-9-Exhibits.pdf

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Re: Austin, TX
« Reply #449 on: April 14, 2023, 12:39:13 AM »

I like what they've done with the street crossing designs. The work goes well above and beyond the basic accommodations for pedestrians and bicyclists we typically see for street crossings above or below freeways. The aesthetic treatments and greenery will do a lot to "hide" the freeway from the street level view. Of course the deck park portions hide the freeway completely.

The Airport Blvd SPUI design is interesting for providing grade-separated movements for pedestrians and bicyclists going under the outer on/off ramps (which can carry traffic moving at higher speeds).

Still, I expect quite a lot of NIMBY outrage from the "new urbanist" types. The only thing "good enough" for them is replacing I-35 with an at-grade boulevard suffocated with many rows of traffic signals.
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