NFL (2024 Season)

[gr8daynegb]

Back in winter 1997, 7-year old me watched the Vikings pull out a miracle playoff win over the NY Giants. I thought "Wow! That's my team!" They got blown out the next week to end their season, but the 49ers were way better, so...whatever. Then came 1998, which we will never speak of again. We went into 1999 with mostly the same players, so 9-year old me thinks, this is a championship team soon! Then 2000, then some crappier years, and ups and downs since then, and still waiting.

31-year old me wonders if they hadn't pulled off that crazy win over the Giants, I would have just gone "that team stinks" and found a different team...and not hate everything now.

I'm just speak about the Vikings vs Falcons game them

[JayhawkCO]

To be contrary, I'll take the Colts over the Titans, the Steelers over the Browns, the Chargers over the Pats, the Bucs over the Saints, and the Vikings over the Cowboys.

Chris

Colts - Wentz choked
Steelers - Nailed it
Chargers - Didn't play well
Bucs - Brady choked
Vikings - Went all Vikingy.  Being a Vikings fan is like zipping up too fast. (I am deciding whether or not I want my son-to-be to be a Vikings fan.  I wouldn't choose it had I not been born into it).

Chris

You and the Vikings is clearly a toxic relationship. Drop it. My advice is to pick a team that is not good right now but has the potential to be, so that you don't get called a bandwagoner  . I will shamelessly admit that that was my main reasoning in picking the Cowboys several years ago.

The problem is we're co-dependent at this point.  I need them to make me look forward to Sundays and those brief glimpses of a happy future together keep me coming back.  They need me because... well... I buy a new hat every once in a while.  When you feel the pain of all the letdowns, it will make whatever successes come even happier I suppose.  The Minneapolis Miracle, even though we didn't even make the Superbowl much less win it, is one of my top 5 sporting fandom moments.

Chris

[JayhawkCO]

Raiders' WR Henry Ruggs' professional career is over as he's being charged with DUI that resulted in death.  I don't understand why these guys that make millions can't pay one of their buddies 80K a year to be their sober driver.  So ridiculous.

Chris

[NWI_Irish96]

Raiders' WR Henry Ruggs' professional career is over as he's being charged with DUI that resulted in death.  I don't understand why these guys that make millions can't pay one of their buddies 80K a year to be their sober driver.  So ridiculous.

Chris

Millionaires or not, DUI is a huge problem in this country. Part of the problem is that we are results-oriented and only bring the hammer down when someone gets killed. Give someone 6 months in jail for their first DUI, regardless of whether or not anybody was injured, and things will change.

[JayhawkCO]

Raiders' WR Henry Ruggs' professional career is over as he's being charged with DUI that resulted in death.  I don't understand why these guys that make millions can't pay one of their buddies 80K a year to be their sober driver.  So ridiculous.

Chris

Millionaires or not, DUI is a huge problem in this country. Part of the problem is that we are results-oriented and only bring the hammer down when someone gets killed. Give someone 6 months in jail for their first DUI, regardless of whether or not anybody was injured, and things will change.

Don't disagree.

Chris

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Raiders' WR Henry Ruggs' professional career is over as he's being charged with DUI that resulted in death.  I don't understand why these guys that make millions can't pay one of their buddies 80K a year to be their sober driver.  So ridiculous.

Chris

Millionaires or not, DUI is a huge problem in this country. Part of the problem is that we are results-oriented and only bring the hammer down when someone gets killed. Give someone 6 months in jail for their first DUI, regardless of whether or not anybody was injured, and things will change.

On a societal level, people just don't think it's a big deal despite decades of deadly newsmaking incidents, even directly affecting them or people they know, and PSAs spamming our media constantly. Everybody knows multiple people who have driven drunk and no one bats an eye. Americans just don't care. To most people, all the excuses for doing it are considered valid or at least understandable as long as no one dies. Until that changes, this crap will never stop.

[triplemultiplex]

Six months for a first time DUI?  Careful, you're making the prison-industrial complex drool, so don't slip on the ooze.

[Max Rockatansky]

How did mass incarceration for drug offenses work out?  Did it actually stop anyone?

[on_wisconsin]

Six months for a first time DUI? 

Obviously didn't happen in Wisconsin... /snark

How did mass incarceration for drug offenses work out?  Did it actually stop anyone?

This.

[NWI_Irish96]

How did mass incarceration for drug offenses work out?  Did it actually stop anyone?

Drugs are an addiction. Incarceration doesn't cure that. Also, most people incarcerated for drugs are of a socioeconomic status where jail just isn't a deterrent.

DUI offenders are a broader spectrum of society. I wouldn't compare the two.

[thspfc]

How did mass incarceration for drug offenses work out?  Did it actually stop anyone?

What's your solution? Mine would be at least six months in jail and a permanent termination of their driver's license.

[thspfc]

How did mass incarceration for drug offenses work out?  Did it actually stop anyone?

Drugs are an addiction. Incarceration doesn't cure that. Also, most people incarcerated for drugs are of a socioeconomic status where jail just isn't a deterrent.

DUI offenders are a broader spectrum of society. I wouldn't compare the two.

Exactly, DUI's and drug addictions is a false equivalency.

[JayhawkCO]

How did mass incarceration for drug offenses work out?  Did it actually stop anyone?

Drugs are an addiction. Incarceration doesn't cure that. Also, most people incarcerated for drugs are of a socioeconomic status where jail just isn't a deterrent.

DUI offenders are a broader spectrum of society. I wouldn't compare the two.

I agree with this.  If you're an alcoholic, it's tough to control your need for booze.  You can, however, drink yourself stupid and not drive.  There's no addiction to driving while drunnk.

Chris

[Max Rockatansky]

^^^

I had a Grandfather and several other family members who were raging alcoholics.  They certainly had an addiction problem they couldn't shake, it actually killed one of them when she died from alcohol poisoning.  Granted, none of them to my knowledge were attempting to drive while drunk either...so there's that. 

How did mass incarceration for drug offenses work out?  Did it actually stop anyone?

What's your solution? Mine would be at least six months in jail and a permanent termination of their driver's license.

Something that doesn't involve sending even more people into the failed shit storm that is the corrections system.  I'm not saying I have answer to the problem, but the solution being proposed isn't going to help anything.

[NWI_Irish96]

How did mass incarceration for drug offenses work out?  Did it actually stop anyone?

What's your solution? Mine would be at least six months in jail and a permanent termination of their driver's license.

Something that doesn't involve sending even more people into the failed shit storm that is the corrections system.  I'm not saying I have answer to the problem, but the solution being proposed isn't going to help anything.

How about this for a first offense? Your car is seized. It immediately gets towed and becomes property of the state. If you can beat the charge in court you get it back. Otherwise it's auctioned off. If you still owe money on it then you're making payments without a car. Think of all the highway improvements we could make with the money from all the auctioned cars.

[hotdogPi]

How about this for a first offense? Your car is seized. It immediately gets towed and becomes property of the state. If you can beat the charge in court you get it back. Otherwise it's auctioned off. If you still owe money on it then you're making payments without a car. Think of all the highway improvements we could make with the money from all the auctioned cars.

If you can't get to court without a car?

[Max Rockatansky]

How did mass incarceration for drug offenses work out?  Did it actually stop anyone?

What's your solution? Mine would be at least six months in jail and a permanent termination of their driver's license.

Something that doesn't involve sending even more people into the failed shit storm that is the corrections system.  I'm not saying I have answer to the problem, but the solution being proposed isn't going to help anything.

How about this for a first offense? Your car is seized. It immediately gets towed and becomes property of the state. If you can beat the charge in court you get it back. Otherwise it's auctioned off. If you still owe money on it then you're making payments without a car. Think of all the highway improvements we could make with the money from all the auctioned cars.

I can see something along those lines.  The ignition lock devices and associated costs in Arizona usually were heavy enough of a burden that they tended to act in the way you are describing.  That law came into effect when DUIs were getting out of control in the early 2000s. 

[Alps]

Let's keep this on the topic of the NFL please.

[snowc]

Let's keep this on the topic of the NFL please.

Thank you, @Alps, for the Public Service Announcement!
*the more you know tone plays*

[Big John]

Aaron Rodgers tested positive for Covid19, out versus the Chiefs.

[snowc]

Aaron Rodgers tested positive for Covid19, out versus the Chiefs.

Aw snap! Looks like the Packers are  for now! 

[jlam]

So much for the State Farm bowl...

[snowc]

So much for the State Farm bowl...

whats wrong with the state farm bowl

[JayhawkCO]

So much for the State Farm bowl...

whats wrong with the state farm bowl

No discount double check.

Chris

[Big John]

So much for the State Farm bowl...

whats wrong with the state farm bowl

No discount double check.

Chris

That was in jeopardy anyways.