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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3500 on: December 05, 2022, 11:13:53 PM »

Thatís now twice this year that Brady has totally switched on a dead team in the last five minutes. Two of the most impressive drives Iíve ever seen.
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Whether a team makes the playoffs isn't comparable to whether they are above .500. Part of making the playoffs is getting the wins when you need them to get in, which Brady/Belichick always found a way to do. That's skill. Being above .500 or below .500 is just however things shake out. That's luck.

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« Reply #3501 on: December 05, 2022, 11:32:05 PM »

Thatís now twice this year that Brady has totally switched on a dead team in the last five minutes. Two of the most impressive drives Iíve ever seen.
TB12 needs to just be his own OC on the field. Byron Leftwich can help consult on the sidelines and keep personnel ready, but let TB12 run the show
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3502 on: December 05, 2022, 11:38:19 PM »

Thatís now twice this year that Brady has totally switched on a dead team in the last five minutes. Two of the most impressive drives Iíve ever seen.
TB12 needs to just be his own OC on the field. Byron Leftwich can help consult on the sidelines and keep personnel ready, but let TB12 run the show
I feel like that would get exhausting for a QB, even Brady. It works when heís dialed in his Brady mode late in the 4th, but if he had to call the whole game himself, that would be a real challenge.
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« Reply #3503 on: December 06, 2022, 05:30:50 AM »

Thatís now twice this year that Brady has totally switched on a dead team in the last five minutes. Two of the most impressive drives Iíve ever seen.
TB12 needs to just be his own OC on the field. Byron Leftwich can help consult on the sidelines and keep personnel ready, but let TB12 run the show
I feel like that would get exhausting for a QB, even Brady. It works when heís dialed in his Brady mode late in the 4th, but if he had to call the whole game himself, that would be a real challenge.

Speaking of TB12, he pulled another victory from the jaws of defeat with 3 seconds left.
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« Reply #3504 on: December 06, 2022, 08:07:36 AM »

Almost forgot, Iíll finish my forks with the Rams and Colts.
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« Reply #3505 on: December 06, 2022, 08:32:42 AM »

Wow, what a brutal choke by the Saints, but the bigger story is that Tom Brady really took it personally that I forked the Bucs.

-Crazy last second comeback against the unforked Rams (who were leading with 1 minute to play) to END their season
-Even crazier comeback against the unforked Saints (who were leading with 10 seconds left and could've won the division if they won) to END their season
-Zero doubt: there will be a third last second, three-score comeback by Brady against the Cardinals (on the final play) to CLINCH the NFC South and ELIMINATE the unforked Cardinals from the playoffs, just to stick it to me extra hard one last time :poke:

And at that point, I'll be officially buried in the locks competition. But no really, thanks Tom for unretiring.
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3506 on: December 06, 2022, 09:44:15 AM »

Thatís now twice this year that Brady has totally switched on a dead team in the last five minutes. Two of the most impressive drives Iíve ever seen.

Never should have happened. Dennis Allen should have been fired on the field for that clock mismanagement. I can't believe in this day and age with a billion dollar business getting these decisions so, so wrong.

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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3507 on: December 06, 2022, 11:41:43 AM »

Thatís now twice this year that Brady has totally switched on a dead team in the last five minutes. Two of the most impressive drives Iíve ever seen.

Never should have happened. Dennis Allen should have been fired on the field for that clock mismanagement. I can't believe in this day and age with a billion dollar business getting these decisions so, so wrong.

There was coaching malpractice on both sides. Both head coaches have been a significant downgrade.  It's just that one team had Tom Brady, and one didn't. But even so, the Saints had so many chances to put it away, like this, the Taysom drop, the two field goals on 4th & short... they just blew it spectacularly at every chance. And there was ZERO reason to think the Bucs had a chance through 55 minutes. Maybe the worst loss of the season, in a year with some pretty bad ones.
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3508 on: December 06, 2022, 12:43:41 PM »

Titans/Eagles today showed the difference between a run-first team that is capable of throwing effectively when they need to, and a run-first team that is not. Here's my question with Tennessee: if you're committed to the "put everything on Derrick Henry" offensive strategy, why are you paying your QB $30 million a year? He's not influencing the game beyond simply not losing it all by himself. Might as well pick up someone like Teddy Bridgewater for dirt cheap and use the extra money to strengthen the o-line and defense.
Guess what, they just fired their GM. The fact that they pulled the trigger midseason, while in the thick of the playoff race, shows just how clearly that game Sunday exposed their issues.
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« Reply #3509 on: December 06, 2022, 02:28:41 PM »

Titans/Eagles today showed the difference between a run-first team that is capable of throwing effectively when they need to, and a run-first team that is not. Here's my question with Tennessee: if you're committed to the "put everything on Derrick Henry" offensive strategy, why are you paying your QB $30 million a year? He's not influencing the game beyond simply not losing it all by himself. Might as well pick up someone like Teddy Bridgewater for dirt cheap and use the extra money to strengthen the o-line and defense.
Guess what, they just fired their GM. The fact that they pulled the trigger midseason, while in the thick of the playoff race, shows just how clearly that game Sunday exposed their issues.

That's spicy. Definitely not a coincidence that it happens 2 days after they got torched by AJ Brown. My guess is Vrabel was in favor of paying AJ while Robinson wasn't. That leaves Robinson responsible for their lack of wide receiver talent, which has cost them big time against top opponents. Mike Vrabel is reigning COTY and has a proven track record of success even with a limited roster (which Robinson is responsible for), so I think they made the right decision even though it's surprising that it happened now.

Meanwhile, the Colts fired their coach and kept the GM, which I think was the wrong decision. They'd be better off with Reich and a new GM. They might end up with both, but now they'll have to waste resources finding a new coach when they already had a good one that wasn't even close to being their biggest problem.

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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3510 on: December 06, 2022, 02:35:19 PM »

Titans/Eagles today showed the difference between a run-first team that is capable of throwing effectively when they need to, and a run-first team that is not. Here's my question with Tennessee: if you're committed to the "put everything on Derrick Henry" offensive strategy, why are you paying your QB $30 million a year? He's not influencing the game beyond simply not losing it all by himself. Might as well pick up someone like Teddy Bridgewater for dirt cheap and use the extra money to strengthen the o-line and defense.
Guess what, they just fired their GM. The fact that they pulled the trigger midseason, while in the thick of the playoff race, shows just how clearly that game Sunday exposed their issues.

That's spicy. Definitely not a coincidence that it happens 2 days after they got torched by AJ Brown. My guess is Vrabel was in favor of paying AJ while Robinson wasn't. That leaves Robinson responsible for their lack of wide receiver talent, which has cost them big time against top opponents. Mike Vrabel is reigning COTY and has a proven track record of success even with a limited roster (which Robinson is responsible for), so I think they made the right decision even though it's surprising that it happened now.

Meanwhile, the Colts fired their coach and kept the GM, which I think was the wrong decision. They'd be better off with Reich and a new GM. They might end up with both, but now they'll have to waste resources finding a new coach when they already had a good one that wasn't even close to being their biggest problem.

Too bad for the Colts fans they couldn't replace their owner. Irsay can thank Tony Dungy and Peyton Manning for making him look like a half decent owner for the time both were in Indy
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« Reply #3511 on: December 06, 2022, 02:43:54 PM »

Meanwhile, the Colts fired their coach and kept the GM, which I think was the wrong decision. They'd be better off with Reich and a new GM. They might end up with both, but now they'll have to waste resources finding a new coach when they already had a good one that wasn't even close to being their biggest problem.

Too bad for the Colts fans they couldn't replace their owner. Irsay can thank Tony Dungy and Peyton Manning for making him look like a half decent owner for the time both were in Indy

But the Colts are in the "top quartile of the upper quartile" of all NFL teams!  ;-)

(I think he was going for top half of the upper quartile, which would be top-4, but it made for a good soundbite anyways.)
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« Reply #3512 on: December 06, 2022, 02:50:48 PM »

Thatís now twice this year that Brady has totally switched on a dead team in the last five minutes. Two of the most impressive drives Iíve ever seen.
TB12 needs to just be his own OC on the field. Byron Leftwich can help consult on the sidelines and keep personnel ready, but let TB12 run the show
I feel like that would get exhausting for a QB, even Brady. It works when heís dialed in his Brady mode late in the 4th, but if he had to call the whole game himself, that would be a real challenge.

P Manning was essentially his own OC for much of his career. Didn't seem to bother him. But he may be the last QB to ever do so. It used to be the norm. Unitas and Starr called almost all their own plays.
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« Reply #3513 on: December 06, 2022, 04:12:22 PM »

Meanwhile, the Colts fired their coach and kept the GM, which I think was the wrong decision. They'd be better off with Reich and a new GM. They might end up with both, but now they'll have to waste resources finding a new coach when they already had a good one that wasn't even close to being their biggest problem.

Too bad for the Colts fans they couldn't replace their owner. Irsay can thank Tony Dungy and Peyton Manning for making him look like a half decent owner for the time both were in Indy

But the Colts are in the "top quartile of the upper quartile" of all NFL teams!  ;-)

(I think he was going for top half of the upper quartile, which would be top-4, but it made for a good soundbite anyways.)

What about when he talked about making sausage?
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3514 on: December 06, 2022, 04:16:49 PM »

Rams claimed Baker Mayfield......interesting
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« Reply #3515 on: December 06, 2022, 06:03:07 PM »

Rams claimed Baker Mayfield......interesting

ESPN is also reporting he may start for them this week - and they have the Thursday night game. I guess we'll find out just how good a QB coach McVay really is.
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« Reply #3516 on: December 06, 2022, 07:28:03 PM »

One of the oddest stories to be coming for the 2023 NFL draft will be the Eagles' early position.  At 11-1, they currently hold the 5th pick in the draft.  On Draft Night 2022, they made a trade with the Saints which included the Eagles getting the Saints' 1st round pick in 2023.  The Saints suck this year.  The Eagles are in 1st overall.  This is looking to be one of the better trades made overall during the 2022 draft.
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« Reply #3517 on: December 06, 2022, 08:14:54 PM »

One of the oddest stories to be coming for the 2023 NFL draft will be the Eagles' early position.  At 11-1, they currently hold the 5th pick in the draft.  On Draft Night 2022, they made a trade with the Saints which included the Eagles getting the Saints' 1st round pick in 2023.  The Saints suck this year.  The Eagles are in 1st overall.  This is looking to be one of the better trades made overall during the 2022 draft.

Indeed. I'll re-up my post from a few weeks ago regarding the top of next year's draft. Eagles, Seahawks, and Lions all made trades that are looking pretty good right now.
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« Reply #3518 on: December 06, 2022, 08:30:57 PM »

Rams claimed Baker Mayfield......interesting
ESPN is also reporting he may start for them this week - and they have the Thursday night game. I guess we'll find out just how good a QB coach McVay really is.
ESPN does NOT have Thursday Night Football. ESPN has Monday Night Football, and Saturday Football the last week of the regular season, Week 18

Amazon Prime Video has Thursday Night Football most weeks, except Week 1 and Thanksgiving Night, which are both on NBC. Amazon has Raiders/Rams on Thursday night
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« Reply #3519 on: December 06, 2022, 08:43:02 PM »

Rams claimed Baker Mayfield......interesting
ESPN is also reporting he may start for them this week - and they have the Thursday night game. I guess we'll find out just how good a QB coach McVay really is.
ESPN does NOT have Thursday Night Football. ESPN has Monday Night Football, and Saturday Football the last week of the regular season, Week 18

Amazon Prime Video has Thursday Night Football most weeks, except Week 1 and Thanksgiving Night, which are both on NBC. Amazon has Raiders/Rams on Thursday night

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think he meant that the Rams have a Thursday night game, not that ESPN will be broadcasting it.
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« Reply #3520 on: December 06, 2022, 09:21:45 PM »

Rams claimed Baker Mayfield......interesting
ESPN is also reporting he may start for them this week - and they have the Thursday night game. I guess we'll find out just how good a QB coach McVay really is.
ESPN does NOT have Thursday Night Football. ESPN has Monday Night Football, and Saturday Football the last week of the regular season, Week 18

Amazon Prime Video has Thursday Night Football most weeks, except Week 1 and Thanksgiving Night, which are both on NBC. Amazon has Raiders/Rams on Thursday night

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think he meant that the Rams have a Thursday night game, not that ESPN will be broadcasting it.
Wow, I didnít even consider that interpretation of that statement. After reading your post, I kinda feel bad nowÖ
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« Reply #3521 on: December 07, 2022, 11:52:00 AM »

Rams claimed Baker Mayfield......interesting
ESPN is also reporting he may start for them this week - and they have the Thursday night game. I guess we'll find out just how good a QB coach McVay really is.
ESPN does NOT have Thursday Night Football. ESPN has Monday Night Football, and Saturday Football the last week of the regular season, Week 18

Amazon Prime Video has Thursday Night Football most weeks, except Week 1 and Thanksgiving Night, which are both on NBC. Amazon has Raiders/Rams on Thursday night

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think he meant that the Rams have a Thursday night game, not that ESPN will be broadcasting it.
Wow, I didnít even consider that interpretation of that statement. After reading your post, I kinda feel bad nowÖ

My bad. I should have been clearer. But yes, I meant that ESPN is reporting Mayfield may be starting for the Rams Thursday. Thanks to webny99 for fixing my unclear statement.
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« Reply #3522 on: December 07, 2022, 02:25:55 PM »

ESPN is also reporting he may start for them this week - and they have the Thursday night game. I guess we'll find out just how good a QB coach McVay really is.
ESPN does NOT have Thursday Night Football. ESPN has Monday Night Football, and Saturday Football the last week of the regular season, Week 18

Amazon Prime Video has Thursday Night Football most weeks, except Week 1 and Thanksgiving Night, which are both on NBC. Amazon has Raiders/Rams on Thursday night

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think he meant that the Rams have a Thursday night game, not that ESPN will be broadcasting it.
Wow, I didnít even consider that interpretation of that statement. After reading your post, I kinda feel bad nowÖ

My bad. I should have been clearer. But yes, I meant that ESPN is reporting Mayfield may be starting for the Rams Thursday. Thanks to webny99 for fixing my unclear statement.

Anytime! :)  I was actually amused that neither of us had thought of the other's interpretation of the statement. Language is weird like that sometimes.
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3523 on: December 07, 2022, 02:45:07 PM »

Raiders over Rams
Titans over Jaguars
Bills over Jets
Bengals over Browns
Cowboys over Texans
Giants over Eagles
Steelers over Ravens
Chiefs over Broncos
Niners over Bucs
Panthers over Seahawks
Dolphins over Chargers
Vikings over Lions
Patriots over Cardinals

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« Reply #3524 on: December 07, 2022, 03:12:44 PM »

The 5-7 Lions are actually favored over the 10-2 Vikings. Bizarre at first glance, but they just put up a 40-burger and have arguably been the better team over the last month. They've also put up 30 points 6 times this season vs. just 3 times for the Vikings. And it's a more important game for the Lions as they must win to stay in the playoff race, while the Vikings are going to playoffs regardless. I'm not saying I agree with them being favored, but it is certainly interesting.
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