Unified License Plate system for the whole US/CAN

Started by geek11111, March 28, 2023, 04:00:06 AM

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geek11111


PASS/COM'L:<$$>[##]-*****(*)

<$$> = two-letter state code, [##] = a DOT district under the given state, * = Alpha-numeric, except I/O, which is entirely excluded
The 6th digit is optional. Only used for large cities.
For example: NY01 \n 123456 is #123456 for NYC. CA88-12345 is #12345 for somewhere in CA.
<$$>[##] and *****(*) are in two different lines

EXEMPT/GOV/Emergency:
X<##>- ***** (X = eXempt) <##> = the FIPS code for each state


TRAILER:
T<##>- *****(*) (T = Trailer) <##> = the FIPS code for each state
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geek11111


The order of patterns:000-000, then
A00-000, then
AA0-000
000-0AA
AAA-000
000-AAA
AAA-A00
A00-AAA
AAA-00A
00A-AAA
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Scott5114

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Ted$8roadFan

Interesting ideas. A few questions. Looking down the (metaphorical) road, how often should plates be replaced; can owners get a new plate with the same number; and when should US states and Canadian provinces adopt seven digit license plates?

kphoger

Quote from: geek11111 on March 28, 2023, 04:00:06 AM
For example: NY01-123456 is #123456 for NYC. CA88-12345 is #12345 for somewhere in CA.

Quote from: geek11111 on March 28, 2023, 04:04:24 AM
The order of patterns:000-000, then
A00-000, then
AA0-000
000-0AA
AAA-000
000-AAA
AAA-A00
A00-AAA
AAA-00A
00A-AAA

1.  Interesting that you have A00-000 but not 000-00A.  Whatever, we'll go with it.

2.  If my math is correct, that yields approximately 175 million possible combinations.  For reference, there are about 2.2 million vehicle registrations between the five boroughs of NYC.

3.  How are you going to squeeze ten digits into a license plate and make it halfway decent?  I tried with nine and it looked like crap.

Quote from: kphoger on December 05, 2022, 03:39:39 PM

Quote from: kalvado on December 05, 2022, 03:15:36 PM
I don't think anyone can squeeze 9 symbols in existing layout.

Challenge accepted!  (using Montana's current issue)



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CtrlAltDel

Quote from: kphoger on March 28, 2023, 09:55:37 AM
Quote from: geek11111 on March 28, 2023, 04:00:06 AM
For example: NY01-123456 is #123456 for NYC. CA88-12345 is #12345 for somewhere in CA.

Quote from: geek11111 on March 28, 2023, 04:04:24 AM
The order of patterns:000-000, then
A00-000, then
AA0-000
000-0AA
AAA-000
000-AAA
AAA-A00
A00-AAA
AAA-00A
00A-AAA

1.  Interesting that you have A00-000 but not 000-00A.  Whatever, we'll go with it.

2.  If my math is correct, that yields approximately 175 million possible combinations.  For reference, there are about 2.2 million vehicle registrations between the five boroughs of NYC.

3.  How are you going to squeeze ten digits into a license plate and make it halfway decent?  I tried with nine and it looked like crap.

Quote from: kphoger on December 05, 2022, 03:39:39 PM

Quote from: kalvado on December 05, 2022, 03:15:36 PM
I don't think anyone can squeeze 9 symbols in existing layout.

Challenge accepted!  (using Montana's current issue)




You'd probably have to change the plate to the European size, which the bulk of cars in the US can fit. You wouldn't need the extra height of current US plates, since the state name wouldn't need to be at the top any more, and the extra width of the European plates would help with the extra characters.

That said, I'm not sure this is a good idea due to the length of the numbers. 
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kphoger

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on March 28, 2023, 10:42:48 AM
You'd probably have to change the plate to the European size, which the bulk of cars in the US can fit. You wouldn't need the extra height of current US plates, since the state name wouldn't need to be at the top any more, and the extra width of the European plates would help with the extra characters.

That said, I'm not sure this is a good idea due to the length of the numbers. 

For what it's worth, license plates in Chile are roughly 5.1 x 14.2 inches.  That's approximately 18% longer than US plates, and slightly less tall.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

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geek11111

Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on March 28, 2023, 05:32:21 AM
Interesting ideas. A few questions. Looking down the (metaphorical) road, how often should plates be replaced; can owners get a new plate with the same number; and when should US states and Canadian provinces adopt seven digit license plates?


Existing plates still valid.
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geek11111

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kphoger

Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

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geek11111

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Scott5114

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I will delete my own that was in response to the random percentage sign. I had no idea that there was a specific symbol for shekels. Thanks character map!

Scott5114

Quote from: geek11111 on March 30, 2023, 03:33:17 PM
sudo rm -rf
(Don't do this. Seriously.)

It wouldn't actually do anything because it hasn't been passed an argument of what to delete with recursive force.

I've executed this command before to clean out directories I need to delete. Works fine so long as you don't pass /* as the deletion target.
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Road Hog

The system we have in place for law enforcement today appears to suffice.

kphoger

Quote from: Road Hog on March 31, 2023, 01:57:48 AM
The system we have in place for law enforcement today appears to suffice.

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hotdogPi

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Some things are "broken", such as toll collection systems or red light cameras misreading I as 1 or vice versa, the infamous A55 [orange] RGY plate, hard-to-read state names for certain special designs, (historically) obvious rental plates that make it easier for thieves to steal from, etc.
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michravera

Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on March 28, 2023, 05:32:21 AM
Interesting ideas. A few questions. Looking down the (metaphorical) road, how often should plates be replaced; can owners get a new plate with the same number; and when should US states and Canadian provinces adopt seven digit license plates?

California already has 7-character plates. They were originally introduced as personal plates, but we've had 9AAA999  serial non-commercial plates for quite a while (our 2012 has a 6 and 2016 for instance, has an 8 in the first place). We are probably just about to use (or have recently started using) a new format. I would extrapolate (or remember) that the 9AAA999 plates were introduced in 1982 or 3. I know that I was able to get a 7-character personal plate in 1980.

I believe that you can get 8-character personal plates today.


kphoger

Quote from: michravera on March 31, 2023, 02:10:31 PM
I would extrapolate (or remember) that the 9AAA999 plates were introduced in 1982 or 3.

1AAA000 started in 1980, before the Golden State base.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

geek11111

Quote from: michravera on March 31, 2023, 02:10:31 PM
Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on March 28, 2023, 05:32:21 AM
Interesting ideas. A few questions. Looking down the (metaphorical) road, how often should plates be replaced; can owners get a new plate with the same number; and when should US states and Canadian provinces adopt seven digit license plates?

California already has 7-character plates. They were originally introduced as personal plates, but we've had 9AAA999  serial non-commercial plates for quite a while (our 2012 has a 6 and 2016 for instance, has an 8 in the first place). We are probably just about to use (or have recently started using) a new format. I would extrapolate (or remember) that the 9AAA999 plates were introduced in 1982 or 3. I know that I was able to get a 7-character personal plate in 1980.

I believe that you can get 8-character personal plates today.


I'm just curious, when commercial hasn't been reverted to 00000A1, were #####$# format vanity plates acceptable?
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michravera

Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2023, 02:16:28 PM
Quote from: michravera on March 31, 2023, 02:10:31 PM
I would extrapolate (or remember) that the 9AAA999 plates were introduced in 1982 or 3.

1AAA000 started in 1980, before the Golden State base.

That sounds right. In any case, I'm certain California currently has more than 10 Million registered vehicles (over 14 million last I checked).

geek11111

Quote from: michravera on March 31, 2023, 05:41:45 PM
Quote from: kphoger on March 31, 2023, 02:16:28 PM
Quote from: michravera on March 31, 2023, 02:10:31 PM
I would extrapolate (or remember) that the 9AAA999 plates were introduced in 1982 or 3.

1AAA000 started in 1980, before the Golden State base.

That sounds right. In any case, I'm certain California currently has more than 10 Million registered vehicles (over 14 million last I checked).


But CA license plate stay with the car, not the owner
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