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Started by 74/171FAN, June 17, 2009, 09:14:53 AM

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Guess what project did not get approved by the governor in the most recent 10-year plan (2025-2034)?  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:


Not Approved by GACIT

Statewide 40915 Remove Tier 1 Roadways, Exit sign renumbering (Interstates and divided highways) - Do not include
-Jay Seaburg


The Ghostbuster

That was totally predictable as Governor Sequential (Sununu) has opposed renumbering the exits from sequential-to-mileage-based since it was first proposed in 2019. Since Sununu will not seek a fifth term, there is a small chance the exit renumbering plan will be approved by the next governor of New Hampshire. I am sure the DOT will continue to post the exit renumbering proposal in each 10-year plan until it finally gets approved, if it ever does.

MoMaRoadDweeb

Didn't see this posted...
QuoteLONDONDERRY, N.H. —
The northbound lanes of Interstate 93 in Londonderry will be closed for 4 nights while new steel girders are set on the new Exit 4A bridge, New Hampshire DOT said.

The New Hampshire Department of Transportation said starting Monday, Dec. 18 at 7 p.m., traffic will be rerouted through the new northbound ramps and re-enter onto I-93.

https://www.wmur.com/article/i-93-northbound-londonderry-new-hampshire-closures/46153265

Ted$8roadFan

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on December 19, 2023, 05:56:41 PM
That was totally predictable as Governor Sequential (Sununu) has opposed renumbering the exits from sequential-to-mileage-based since it was first proposed in 2019. Since Sununu will not seek a fifth term, there is a small chance the exit renumbering plan will be approved by the next governor of New Hampshire. I am sure the DOT will continue to post the exit renumbering proposal in each 10-year plan until it finally gets approved, if it ever does.

Live Free or Die.

vdeane

Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on December 24, 2023, 06:44:15 AM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on December 19, 2023, 05:56:41 PM
That was totally predictable as Governor Sequential (Sununu) has opposed renumbering the exits from sequential-to-mileage-based since it was first proposed in 2019. Since Sununu will not seek a fifth term, there is a small chance the exit renumbering plan will be approved by the next governor of New Hampshire. I am sure the DOT will continue to post the exit renumbering proposal in each 10-year plan until it finally gets approved, if it ever does.

Live Free or Die.
Apparently NHDOT isn't free to choose their own method of exit numbering.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

shadyjay

Looks like they're replacing mile markers along NH 101...

https://www.dot.nh.gov/news-and-media/road-work-route-101-manchester-hampton

Anyone with boots on the ground who can see if the new mile markers will be correct, or not?  They currently begin with "100" at I-93 outside Manchester, some 40 miles over reality.

Press release also states the project also included I-89, I-93, I-293, and I-393.  I'm guessing this was also mile marker replacement on those routes. 

The Ghostbuster

Will the new mile marker signs have the same numbers as the old mile marker signs? The new mile marker signs should be based on the distance from NH 101's western terminus at NH 9/NH 10/NH 12 in Keene.

SectorZ

Quote from: shadyjay on March 31, 2024, 09:12:02 PMLooks like they're replacing mile markers along NH 101...

https://www.dot.nh.gov/news-and-media/road-work-route-101-manchester-hampton

Anyone with boots on the ground who can see if the new mile markers will be correct, or not?  They currently begin with "100" at I-93 outside Manchester, some 40 miles over reality.

Press release also states the project also included I-89, I-93, I-293, and I-393.  I'm guessing this was also mile marker replacement on those routes. 

Next time I am up there I will keep an eye out. I'm likelier to ride over it on a bike then drive on it anytime soon.

shadyjay

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on April 01, 2024, 08:36:47 AMWill the new mile marker signs have the same numbers as the old mile marker signs? The new mile marker signs should be based on the distance from NH 101's western terminus at NH 9/NH 10/NH 12 in Keene.

That is what I'm wondering.  The present mile markers start at the I-93/NH 101 interchange, with the first mile marker being 100, and counting up as you go east.  That's some 40 miles above what they should be.  No idea why it was done that way.  And no idea if the new mile markers will represent the correct mileage, or not. 

froggie

Quote from: shadyjay on April 01, 2024, 05:35:25 PM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on April 01, 2024, 08:36:47 AMWill the new mile marker signs have the same numbers as the old mile marker signs? The new mile marker signs should be based on the distance from NH 101's western terminus at NH 9/NH 10/NH 12 in Keene.

That is what I'm wondering.  The present mile markers start at the I-93/NH 101 interchange, with the first mile marker being 100, and counting up as you go east.  That's some 40 miles above what they should be.  No idea why it was done that way.  And no idea if the new mile markers will represent the correct mileage, or not. 

Probably done that way to distinguish the mostly-freeway segment east of I-93 from the mostly 2-lane segment west of I-293.

SectorZ

Proud to report I was on NH 101 tonight east of I-93. The new mile markers are correct to the actual mileage, starting at just over 60 miles as you move east from 93. Someone on 5/24 updated the wikipedia as well.

vdeane

Quote from: SectorZ on June 15, 2024, 09:26:36 PMProud to report I was on NH 101 tonight east of I-93. The new mile markers are correct to the actual mileage, starting at just over 60 miles as you move east from 93. Someone on 5/24 updated the wikipedia as well.
Interesting.  In anticipation of the exit 3 kid leaving office, perhaps?
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

The Ghostbuster

I doubt that. One thing I find interesting about NH 101 is it once had five suffix routes: NH 101A-101E. Of course, 101B/101C/101D no longer exist. Are there any other New Hampshire highways that have suffixes like NH 101 has/had?

shadyjay

Quote from: SectorZ on June 15, 2024, 09:26:36 PMProud to report I was on NH 101 tonight east of I-93. The new mile markers are correct to the actual mileage, starting at just over 60 miles as you move east from 93. Someone on 5/24 updated the wikipedia as well.

Searching around NHDOT, I found a projects viewer map and when you click on the project, you get contract plans.  Here's the NH 101/I-89/I-93 mile marker project:
https://gis.dot.nh.gov/reports/plan-inventory/?p=43934

QuoteEXISTING MM 100 TO MM 132 = PROP. MM 60.0 TO MM 92.0

Still wonder why they started with 100.  One of those great mysteries of nature, I guess.

Also found the sign plans for the I-89 bridge over the Connecticut River.  Operational lanes will exist over the new bridge, ending NB at the I-91 NB ramp in White River Jct and ending SB at the NH 12A/Exit 20 exit ramp.  Much needed!

SectorZ

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on June 16, 2024, 10:33:26 AMI doubt that. One thing I find interesting about NH 101 is it once had five suffix routes: NH 101A-101E. Of course, 101B/101C/101D no longer exist. Are there any other New Hampshire highways that have suffixes like NH 101 has/had?

NH 11 has A thru D all still currently in existence. 25 has A-C, and (US) 1, 3, 16, 28, 103, 110, and 115 all have an A and B route, 28 having 28A and "Bypass 28". 115B and 11D may de defunct at this point. 113 has an A and a B, but the B route is of ME 113.

101E always baffled me since it was nowhere near 101 or its alternate routes.

bmitchelf

It doesn't connect to 101 but it's pretty close in Hampton

Great Lakes Roads

The Bedford Toll Plaza on the Everett Turnpike will undergo a conversion to cashless tolling (one article said this fall, but it's more likely in Summer 2026). The original plan from years ago was to put open-road tolling, but that has changed since the Spaulding Turnpike went cashless tolling.

(And yes, there has been crashes at the toll booth in Bedford recently!)

https://www.wmur.com/article/vehicle-crash-bedford-tolls-61824/61156332
-Jay Seaburg

pderocco

Quote from: SectorZ on June 16, 2024, 11:32:46 AM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on June 16, 2024, 10:33:26 AMI doubt that. One thing I find interesting about NH 101 is it once had five suffix routes: NH 101A-101E. Of course, 101B/101C/101D no longer exist. Are there any other New Hampshire highways that have suffixes like NH 101 has/had?

NH 11 has A thru D all still currently in existence. 25 has A-C, and (US) 1, 3, 16, 28, 103, 110, and 115 all have an A and B route, 28 having 28A and "Bypass 28". 115B and 11D may de defunct at this point. 113 has an A and a B, but the B route is of ME 113.

101E always baffled me since it was nowhere near 101 or its alternate routes.
Don't forget 1A and the dinky little 1B and US1-Bypass in Portsmouth.

roadman65

https://maps.app.goo.gl/j7N4CJzbEn5o8F3z6
A normal shield assembly for a two route overlap. 

Usually two or more routes reassured are on green guides in NH.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

SectorZ

Quote from: pderocco on June 19, 2024, 03:30:17 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on June 16, 2024, 11:32:46 AM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on June 16, 2024, 10:33:26 AMI doubt that. One thing I find interesting about NH 101 is it once had five suffix routes: NH 101A-101E. Of course, 101B/101C/101D no longer exist. Are there any other New Hampshire highways that have suffixes like NH 101 has/had?

NH 11 has A thru D all still currently in existence. 25 has A-C, and (US) 1, 3, 16, 28, 103, 110, and 115 all have an A and B route, 28 having 28A and "Bypass 28". 115B and 11D may de defunct at this point. 113 has an A and a B, but the B route is of ME 113.

101E always baffled me since it was nowhere near 101 or its alternate routes.
Don't forget 1A and the dinky little 1B and US1-Bypass in Portsmouth.

I didn't forget it. It's right there in the list. I forget Bypass 1.

yakra

quick little shell script on TravelMapping's NH system data:

yakra@BiggaTomato:~/ytm/HighwayData/hwy_data/_systems$ grep -i '.*;.*;.*[A-Z];.*;.*;.*;.*;.*' usanh.csv | cut -f3 -d';' | uniq | sed 's~^NH~~' | tr '\n' ' '; echo

route 1A 1B 3A 4A 9A 10A 11A 11B 11C 12A 16A 16B 25A 25B 25C 28A 101A 101E 103A 103B 107A 109A 110A 110B 111A 113A 113B 114A 115A 121A 123A 155A 175A 202A


Two of 3A, 12A, 16A, 28A, 123A
Three of 111A
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