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Rhode Island mileage based exit numbers?

Started by vdeane, April 27, 2014, 05:17:27 PM

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roadman

Quote from: PurdueBill on August 22, 2020, 02:38:02 PM
Quote from: roadman on July 29, 2020, 10:26:32 PM
Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on July 29, 2020, 05:57:49 PM
Quote from: kramie13 on July 29, 2020, 05:20:11 PM
I've traveled on both RI 24 and I-295 in the past couple of weeks.  On RI 24, some of the changed exit numbers include a yellow "old exit #" tab.  But on I-295, the old exit tabs are gone.  Why?

For I-295, it was up for two years to get everybody in the area get used to the new exit numbers. Once two years are done, they take them down. Massachusetts and Connecticut will be doing the same thing when they get new exit numbers on their highways.


Just to clarify.  Massachusetts will be keeping the 'OLD EXIT XX" signs in place for a minimum of two years after the exit numbers are changed.  However, MassDOT has no plans to go in and immediately remove the signs after the two year period has ended.

Are they going to try to compete with Pennsylvania to see how long OLD EXIT signage can be left up?  :P

Hopefully not.
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The Ghostbuster

When is Interstate 95 going to receive its new exit numbers? It may be last, but it certainly is not least.

shadyjay

Last I heard for I-95, late 2020.  May be early 2021 at this point.

bob7374

I checked the RIDOT recent bids page and found out that the last RIDOT Exit Renumbering Project for I-95 was awarded to Liddell Bros. for $1,129,606.00 on June 19. They were the only bidder, and I never saw the project listed among those posted on the recently awarded contract page. Did other contractors, seeing that Liddell won the other 3 contracts, simply give up trying to bid? No news as when the project is to begin other than the 'late 2020' text on RIDOT's Exit renumbering site which has not been updated since January.

The Ghostbuster

The exits on the Interstate 95 on Rhode Island page on Wikipedia has been changed to mileage-based. However, the old exit numbers are not shown along with the upcoming mileage-based numbers.

yakra

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The Ghostbuster

Now the page is back to showing the existing sequential exit numbers. Let us know when mileage-based exit numbers are installed along Interstate 95.

epzik8

Supposedly, I-95 is now the only freeway in the state that still has sequential exit numbers.
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abqtraveler

Quote from: epzik8 on October 29, 2020, 07:33:56 AM
Supposedly, I-95 is now the only freeway in the state that still has sequential exit numbers.

Anyone know how close RIDOT is to starting the exit conversion on I-95?
2-d Interstates traveled:  4, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 24, 25, 27, 29, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 49, 55, 57, 64, 65, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76(E), 77, 78, 81, 83, 84(W), 85, 87(N), 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95

2-d Interstates Clinched:  12, 22, 30, 37, 44, 59, 80, 84(E), 86(E), 238, H1, H2, H3, H201

shadyjay

According to this page....
http://www.dot.ri.gov/projects/exitnumbers/index.php

...towards the bottom...

QuoteRIDOT will finalize its renumbering program with I-95. That is tentatively scheduled for late 2020.

bob7374

Quote from: shadyjay on October 29, 2020, 04:35:22 PM
According to this page....
http://www.dot.ri.gov/projects/exitnumbers/index.php

...towards the bottom...

QuoteRIDOT will finalize its renumbering program with I-95. That is tentatively scheduled for late 2020.
If RIDOT does what it did with renumbering last year, there should be an announcement about I-95 some time in November with work starting a month or 2 later.

abqtraveler

This morning I was digging through RIDOT's bid results page on their website, and it appears they have awarded a contract to renumber exits on I-95, with the winning (and only) bidder being the Liddell Bros., Inc at around $1.2 million. I'm guessing the contractor will will start the conversion sometime this spring.
2-d Interstates traveled:  4, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 24, 25, 27, 29, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 49, 55, 57, 64, 65, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76(E), 77, 78, 81, 83, 84(W), 85, 87(N), 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95

2-d Interstates Clinched:  12, 22, 30, 37, 44, 59, 80, 84(E), 86(E), 238, H1, H2, H3, H201

shadyjay

I've been searching on RIDOT's site for any news of new I-95 numbers or the project itself, but haven't seen anything.  Good to see the project will be done this year and complete RI's conversion.  Any official new numbers posted?

Ben114

Quote from: shadyjay on January 08, 2021, 07:43:12 PM
I've been searching on RIDOT's site for any news of new I-95 numbers or the project itself, but haven't seen anything.  Good to see the project will be done this year and complete RI's conversion.  Any official new numbers posted?

The project page hasn't been updated since the I-195 conversion in early 2020.

bob7374

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Quote from: Ben114 on January 08, 2021, 07:53:01 PM
Quote from: shadyjay on January 08, 2021, 07:43:12 PM
I've been searching on RIDOT's site for any news of new I-95 numbers or the project itself, but haven't seen anything.  Good to see the project will be done this year and complete RI's conversion.  Any official new numbers posted?
The project page hasn't been updated since the I-195 conversion in early 2020.
There hasn't been any news and, obviously, the project didn't start at the end of 2020. Could be COVID related factors or simply that Liddell Bros. won 2 of the 3 Massachusetts Exit Renumbering contracts and, since they've started with those, RIDOT will simply have to wait until the contractor is finished in Mass. before their I-95 exits can be renumbered.

abqtraveler

#240
Since nothing has been publicly announced recently concerning the renumbering of I-95 exits through Rhode Island, I decided to e-mail the folks at RIDOT to see what they know. Below is their response:

Good morning,

Thank you for reaching out,

Due to funding constraints, this project is currently on hold. Once additional funds become available it will be reprogrammed into the current TIP.

Thank you,

Lindsey Sasso
RIDOT


From that, it appears that due to funding issues, the conversion of I-95's exit numbers to mile-based has been placed on hold indefinitely, or at least until RIDOT can get funding for that project.

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2-d Interstates traveled:  4, 5, 8, 10, 15, 20, 24, 25, 27, 29, 35, 39, 40, 41, 43, 45, 49, 55, 57, 64, 65, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 74, 75, 76(E), 77, 78, 81, 83, 84(W), 85, 87(N), 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95

2-d Interstates Clinched:  12, 22, 30, 37, 44, 59, 80, 84(E), 86(E), 238, H1, H2, H3, H201

Alps

Quote from: abqtraveler on March 18, 2021, 09:26:46 AM
Since nothing has been publicly announced recently concerning the renumbering of I-95 exits through Rhode Island, I decided to e-mail the folks at RIDOT to see what they know. Below is their response:

Good morning,

Thank you for reaching out,

Due to funding constraints, this project is currently on hold. Once additional funds become available it will be reprogrammed into the current TIP.

Thank you,

Lindsey Sasso
RIDOT


From that, it appears that due to funding issues, the conversion of I-95's exit numbers to mile-based has been placed on hold indefinitely, or at least until RIDOT can get funding for that project.
How expensive is slapping overlays on signs?!

shadyjay

Quote from: abqtraveler on January 08, 2021, 10:31:01 AM
This morning I was digging through RIDOT's bid results page on their website, and it appears they have awarded a contract to renumber exits on I-95, with the winning (and only) bidder being the Liddell Bros., Inc at around $1.2 million. I'm guessing the contractor will will start the conversion sometime this spring.

So, what happened to the above?   

vdeane

Looks like their budget is facing problems due to a combination of COVID expenses, the economic fallout of the restrictions and shutdowns, and the phase-out of the car tax.  The fact that they have a new governor who is no doubt looking for savings wherever he can find them can't help.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

Great Lakes Roads

It looks like the exit renumbering for I-95 has been "re-advertised" on September 30, 2021, with a "Notice to Proceed" date of December 2021, and a completion date of April 2023. This was discovered in the Q4 of the quarterly report that was posted sometime within November, and someone pointed out on the Roadwaywiz's live stream that happened this evening.

https://www.dot.ri.gov/accountability/docs/2021/QR_July-Sept_2021_Insert_A.pdf

bob7374

Based on RIDOT's Project Bid page, the lowest bid for the project was by (surprise?) Liddell Bros. Inc. with a bid of $925,504 and was awarded on October 22. There were 2 other bidders, unlike when the contract was advertised the first time. Despite the listing of a December NTP on the latest RIDOT Quarterly Report, there has been no public announcement about the project as of yet, nor has the RIDOT project website been updated. I'll plan to keep checking the RIDOT site frequently to see if anything is announced.

roadman65

I am surprised that MassDOT went along with Rhode Island and changed the only two MA I-295 exits in Attleboro to mile based.
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vdeane

Quote from: roadman65 on December 05, 2021, 10:55:12 PM
I am surprised that MassDOT went along with Rhode Island and changed the only two MA I-295 exits in Attleboro to mile based.
IIRC the conversion of I-295 on each side of the state line happened years apart.  The MA side was done as part of the statewide switch and had little to do with RI's conversion.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

bob7374

Quote from: vdeane on December 06, 2021, 09:41:29 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 05, 2021, 10:55:12 PM
I am surprised that MassDOT went along with Rhode Island and changed the only two MA I-295 exits in Attleboro to mile based.
IIRC the conversion of I-295 on each side of the state line happened years apart.  The MA side was done as part of the statewide switch and had little to do with RI's conversion.
The MUTCD would have preferred MassDOT continue RI's mileage for the two I-295 exits, but MassDOT thought the change in numbers helps signal to drivers that the state line had been crossed. Apparently the Mass. Welcome Sign is not impressive enough.

Alps

Quote from: bob7374 on December 06, 2021, 10:35:49 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 06, 2021, 09:41:29 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on December 05, 2021, 10:55:12 PM
I am surprised that MassDOT went along with Rhode Island and changed the only two MA I-295 exits in Attleboro to mile based.
IIRC the conversion of I-295 on each side of the state line happened years apart.  The MA side was done as part of the statewide switch and had little to do with RI's conversion.
The MUTCD would have preferred MassDOT continue RI's mileage for the two I-295 exits, but MassDOT thought the change in numbers helps signal to drivers that the state line had been crossed. Apparently the Mass. Welcome Sign is not impressive enough.
3di are allowed to reset at state lines. It's definitely not what you'd want to do for a beltway but you can do it for a spur or loop route that doesn't double back.



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