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Title: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: hbelkins on September 14, 2018, 01:51:11 PM
Anyone ever been stolen from, burglarized, assaulted, or otherwise victimized by a lawbreaker?
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 14, 2018, 01:56:25 PM
I've been assaulted lots of times while arresting people, but nothing really notable since 2012.  In fact the worst injuries I've ever had from a scuffle were just a couple minor cuts.   Fortunately what I do now has me pretty far removed from some of the encounters that were frequent in the past.   

Oddly the one time I was on the opposite end of a burglary I was the only one who didn't get anything stolen.  My brother parked in a bad neighborhood in Pasadena during the 05 Rose Bowl but left all the valuables in plain sight instead of the hotel.  My Dad, my brother, and my brother's girlfriend all had credit information or property stolen.  All I had in the SUV was a couple DVDs which nobody bothered to take. 
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: Rothman on September 14, 2018, 02:50:52 PM
I was actually robbed by bandits on a train in Russia between Volgograd and Rostov-na-Donu.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: J N Winkler on September 14, 2018, 03:15:09 PM
I have never fallen victim to violent crime, but I have been stolen from on multiple occasions, including the following:

*  Tripod stolen from back seat of car while it was parked on the street (tripod was cheaply made, worth probably about $30; thief did $200 damage to car door lock)

*  Two bicycles stolen (lock stuck through frame and wheel--"locked to self"--in both cases, but otherwise not secured to a fixed object)

*  Backpack stolen when I set it down to try to gain entry to an unoccupied house through the back door (I had locked myself out)

I have come close to being physically assaulted on two occasions.  In both cases alcohol was involved.

*  I was making an ATM withdrawal and was about to enter my PIN when someone walked up, stood next to the ATM, put his eyes on the PIN pad, and said, "Go ahead."  I just looked at him until he said "F--k you" and walked off.  He was blowing beer breath at me, so I think he was drunk.

*  I was sitting at the bar at a Cajun restaurant in San Antonio on Saturday night, probably their busiest of the week.  I kept hearing a loud noise right next to my ear, which turned out to be someone shouting orders to the bartender over my shoulder.  If I was hearing him at all, with more than 90% hearing loss in both ears, he had to have been shouting at the top of his lungs.  I looked at him, he looked back, and for a brief instant I thought he might throw a punch, but apparently he thought better of it and went away.  Again, I suspect he had had too much to drink, and also felt the bar staff had too much going on to think about whether he should have been cut off or even eighty-sixed.  This incident happened right after I sat down, before I ordered.  Normally I would have had a beer with my food, but I went straight to the food order this time (crayfish étouffée) so I could get out of there ASAP.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: bandit957 on September 14, 2018, 03:20:09 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 14, 2018, 01:51:11 PM
Anyone ever been stolen from, burglarized, assaulted, or otherwise victimized by a lawbreaker?

Many times, but nobody gets punished, because the perpetrators have pull with county officials and police, or because prosecuting the case would lead to someone who does.

I did file a civil suit when someone borrowed money and refused to pay it back. The main defendant claimed she had kidney cancer, but it turned out she was actually buying drugs. I tried having the suit served in the county where the other defendant worked, but the sheriff's office in that county took my service fee and then refused to serve the lawsuit, saying it was because the workplace straddled the county line. Eventually, the suit was served in another county. I won the suit and received a good portion of the money I was suing for. The reason it took so long to serve the suit is that the drugs were being purchased from people who were politically connected.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: ce929wax on September 14, 2018, 04:10:53 PM
I was delivering pizza for Pizza Hut on Asheville Highway in Knoxville, TN (the restaurant has since closed, and I no longer work for that company) on December 3, 2011.  I was making a delivery on Parkview Avenue off of MLK Blvd when a guy approached me after the delivery and asked if I had free pizza.  He pistol whipped me, demanded my money and cell phone, and then told me to get the "fuck out of there, bitch."  When it took me longer than he wanted it to because I had my glasses knocked off my face and my keys knocked out of my hand, he repeated for me to "get the fuck out of here, bitch." and shot my back driver side window out.  The bullet (40 caliber) ricocheted off a bar in the drivers seat and landed on the front passenger floorboard.

I was seriously unimpressed with Knoxville PD, because a few weeks later they called me to look at a lineup, which I could not make a positive identification because he had knocked my glasses off and it was dark, and the detective tells me that "next time I should do my paperwork somewhere else, because that is a bad neighborhood" like the incident was my fault and it was a hassle for him to do his job, which I pay him to do as a taxpayer.  If I could've gotten away with it without going to jail or picking up charges, I would have throttled the detective, I was that pissed off.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: MNHighwayMan on September 14, 2018, 04:12:11 PM
I had my bike stolen when I was seven years old.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: Beltway on September 14, 2018, 04:27:04 PM
Robbed at gunpoint at a motel in a small town in South Carolina in 1991.  I notified the police and they came and left and kept watch over the motel.  The guy was dumb enough to come back and try to rob others, and the police caught him.  The fact that he was using a 22 rifle helped as it could not be concealed.  He went to prison for at least 3 years.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: abefroman329 on September 14, 2018, 04:52:55 PM
Attempted mugging, but I don't know if the perpetrator was really bad at it, or just didn't think it through, or what. It was in the lobby of our building, I told him to fuck off, and he left. It was the strangest thing. I've lived in several not-great neighborhoods rife with petty theft and walked home drunk and/or in the middle of the night and that's been it.

Oh, I did have my car stolen once. Unfortunately by then I was sick of owning one, and it was recovered one day before the insurance company would have declared it unrecoverable and just cut me a check.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: dvferyance on September 14, 2018, 04:55:08 PM
I have been a victim of a victimless crime if that counts.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: MantyMadTown on September 14, 2018, 04:57:03 PM
I've had money stolen from me numerous times, mostly when I lost my wallet, but the most notable occasion I can think of was when I was working at Walmart a couple weeks before I left my job two years ago. When I was working at one of the registers, this lady came to my register and short-changed me when she asked me to make change for a bunch of bills, and then asked me to do it again with the bills I just gave her. She was intentionally talking really softly so I wouldn't be able to understand her. Lost over $200 from the register that day. After that there were rules in place making sure nobody would ever fall into a scam like that again.

Fuck Walmart, but still, I wouldn't want to lose that kind of money whether it was mine or I was working with it as part of a job.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: LM117 on September 14, 2018, 05:08:58 PM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on September 14, 2018, 04:12:11 PM
I had my bike stolen when I was seven years old.

Same, only I was 10.

But I did get my bike back the following day.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: abefroman329 on September 14, 2018, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: dvferyance on September 14, 2018, 04:55:08 PM
I have been a victim of a victimless crime if that counts.
You were punched in the dark?
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: formulanone on September 14, 2018, 07:52:07 PM
Two car break-ins (both over 20 years ago) and identity theft.

The latter is a far greater pain than it sounds, because your spare time for the next two weeks is vaporized, fixing the credit marks takes a lot of phone calls, and you don't trust anyone with your information.

Granted, there's a lot of information about each one of us if you know how to construct it all together. But at least my bank account info isn't one of them.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: Big John on September 14, 2018, 08:01:38 PM
My residences have been burglarized twice.  Mostly electronics have been taken and never recovered. I wasn't home either time.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: Takumi on September 14, 2018, 08:13:47 PM
I've had a bike stolen, and credit card info stolen (despite not using the card anywhere out of the ordinary).
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: corco on September 14, 2018, 09:01:09 PM
My car was stolen when I lived down in Tucson - it was 2011 and I had a 4WD 2002 Jeep Liberty - with 4WD vehicles being popular targets for thieves.

I worked the overnight shift at the time, and went outside at 9:30 PM to go to work and my car was gone. That sucked balls. They found it 10 days later in the desert outside of Sierra Vista - the initial thought was that it was folks heading to Mexico, but it turned out just to be joyriders who thought they'd have a good time off road. It took two tow trucks to get it out and the car got a good case of Arizona pinstriping as well as several minor scratches. The main mechanical damage was a brake line failure - it seems like that happened not too long after they took it out. But then to be vindictive they shattered the roof of the sunroof and stole the stock radio. They also destroyed the steering column to get it started, so it was a pretty expensive repair.

A few months later, my bike was stolen at the same apartment complex. I moved shortly thereafter.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: adventurernumber1 on September 14, 2018, 10:30:05 PM
I have not, but my parents have. When my parents were younger and newly married (before I was born), they lived in an apartment, and it got robbed by somebody. They lost a good bit of stuff, IIRC, including a special piece of jewelry my mother was given that had been owned by her grandmother or great-grandmother. There may have been more than one robbery that happened to them while they lived in that apartment, but I can't remember. In more recent history, my parents have had people try to jack around with their credit card, but those incidents have been resolved.

But by far the most strange, eerie, and scary incident was the fact that we may have barely missed being part of a crime several months ago when we were in San Francisco. We ended up in a bad part of town when we were trying to look for a fast-food restaurant to eat dinner at, and it was night. Even though we hadn't found one yet, I think my dad had to use the restroom really, really, really bad, and it couldn't wait (when you gotta go, you gotta go), so we stopped at a liquor store (I think that's what it was), even though we were still in a bad part of the city. Nothing happened while we were there, and after the pit-stop, we continued driving around, though trying to get out of the area. Since we were slightly lost, we ended up back at the same spot accidentally around 10 or 20 minutes later, and this is what we saw: if I recall correctly, there was an ambulance(s) and police car(s) at the exact same store my dad had stopped at earlier. I guess that means it is possible that some crime happened there after we left, and that we barely escaped possibly being a part of it. That was scary and strange as hell, and we definitely made sure to get out of there as quickly as possible after that.


Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: Throckmorton on September 14, 2018, 11:07:13 PM
   
I was working in a small grocery/convenience store. I had worked there before, quit and went back to work again about a year and a half later. My first hour on the job of the second gig this guy, Curtis was his name, tried to rob me. I had been warned about him because he had robbed the place a couple of times before. The employee who was working the store at that time was so afraid of Curtis that he would practically throw money at him as soon as he came in. Curtis was about half my size and he stuck his hand in his pocket like he had a gun and said, "Open the register." I looked at him in disbelief. Not at the fact that  he was trying to hold me up but at the "gun in the pocket" thing. I couldn't believe anyone would think that would work.      
   
The store manager, Gary, saw all this and was hiding near the exit with the intent of grabbing Curtis before he could leave. But Gary lost the element of surprise because he started laughing when I told Curtis to, "Get the fuck out of my store."   
   
Curtis shouted at me to open the register a couple more times so I maced him and he decided that was enough. Gary tried to grab him and they wrestled around knocking over a display of two liter pop. Bottles were bouncing all over the place and 7 Up was spraying from some of them.   
   
Anyway, Curtis got away. But about thirty minutes later he pulled the same shit at another store in the area and the guy he tried to rob did have a gun. Curtis was arrested. I picked him out of a line up and testified against him in court.
   
   
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: Bruce on September 15, 2018, 12:43:21 AM
My house was broken into a few years ago while I was in school. They took an Xbox and two of the family's laptops (including my own, but I had decent backups at least). Insurance covered enough for me to get my current desktop PC (which is harder to move).

I've also been punched in the face by someone who didn't like the fact that I dared to use the crosswalk in front of their car. Really bizarre and I haven't heard anything back from the police department since.

Also have been kicked in the shin for trying to take pictures of a train sign by someone who thought I was photographing them. And was nearly mugged at knifepoint on the Ringbahn train in Berlin while an entire carriage of people sat without doing anything. People are really stupid.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: OracleUsr on September 15, 2018, 01:23:05 AM
Got broken into twice.  Didn't know the lock on my kitchen outside door was useless and they jimmied it and took my TV, laptop, cell phone and GPS, and who knows what else.  I have an alarm system now.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: bandit957 on September 15, 2018, 09:44:40 AM
I was a victim of a series of home invasions in 2009-10, and the response was always, "Move to a neighborhood where this doesn't happen."
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: abefroman329 on September 15, 2018, 10:21:22 AM
Quote from: bandit957 on September 15, 2018, 09:44:40 AM
I was a victim of a series of home invasions in 2009-10, and the response was always, "Move to a neighborhood where this doesn't happen."
Pioneers get the arrows; settlers get the land.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: jeffandnicole on September 15, 2018, 10:50:34 AM
(I tried being brief...it didn't work...)

I was the victim of identity theft. But whenever it happens to me, of course it's not normal.  For most people, their credit card info was hacked, or maybe they broke into their bank account.

For me, they managed to buy a brand new, $70,000 Ford F-150!

The first sign of trouble was getting an insurance policy for the vehicle from an insurance company I don't have any policies with.  I called them up and explained the situation.  I gave them the policy number and my name and address.  Then they asked for other identifying info, such as birthdate, last 4 of SS, etc.  Nothing was matching up.  So they couldn't talk to me about "my" policy. Eventually I asked to talk to their fraud department.  After waiting about 15 seconds I could tell I wasn't put on hold.  I said something, and they said they couldn't transfer me because I couldn't identify "my" account!  I finally was able to talk to a supervisor who said they probably just input info wrong and I'd get a call back in a few days (I never did get that call back).

A few days later, I get a Mastercard in the mail for Dicks Sporting Goods. Then I knew there was an issue.  I called the credit card company up and told them I think this was opened without authorization.  The phone rep looked it up, noted that no purchases were made on it, and closed it.  He even told me where it was opened - in NYC somewhere.  Other than a letter confirming the card was closed, that was the end of that issue.

But then I look at my credit report, and that's when I found the Ford Motor Credit loan for the Ford F-150!  It's been a year now so I forget the exact details, but I did find out it was purchased at McCafferty Ford in Langhorne, PA.  I called them up and told the receptionist about the issue.  I was transferred to the sales manager.  I explained that a Ford F-150 was bought by "me", but it wasn't me because I was never there.  I'm pretty sure I heard his jaw hit the floor on the phone.  He basically said that was impossible.  During our conversation I was able to get a phone number from him that was used (that turned out to be useless, at least for me). 

After that, I went to the State Police barricks nearby, just because of the type of crime it was. I had no clue how the guy was going to use this vehicle, such as in a crime, and my name is all over it.  The State Trooper looked up the VIN number and said nothing was known about it, but to file a report I would need to go to my township police department.

When I did that, at first the officer wasn't terribly interested in the issue.  But I pressed I needed a police report. He took my info. 

Back at home, I did a little more research and saw that another account of mine wasn't mine - from a motorcycle/watercraft dealership.  I called them up and told them the situation.  The rep noted there was nothing purchased.  We're talking for another minute or so when he suddenly says "uh-oh"...and noted that there was a $8,000 pending charge on the account!  My heart sank again!

The next day I get a call from a detective at the police dept, and I give him all the info I know.  I could tell he wasn't completely believing my story here, never hearing of such a case.

A few days later I call back the CC company of the motorcycle dealership, as I wound up receiving that credit card in the mail.  The rep said, no problem, the account was closed and there was no balance on the account.  I asked about the pending charge and he said nope, it was declined. Thank goodness!  I eventually learned here that the person trying to buy something came back without the credit card, trying to buy something with the drivers license as ID.  The staff/manager was a bit suspicious, and he appearntly just walked out!  Thank goodness!!

But back to the truck - so, what I learned: The person had a license made with my name and address, but everything else was faked - DL number, birthdate, etc.  The picture was of the criminal - a different race than mine.  He was able to purchase the vehicle without registering it, and apparently never did. The insurance policy was purchased using another credit card - not one of mine or anything in my name - and the minimal policy was purchased.  Oh, and there were no cameras at the dealership!

After what turned out to be a brief investigation, it was quickly determined it wasn't me.  That was a lifesavor - I had received the first statement in the mail, for $1,100 or so for the truck.  Talked to Ford Motor Credit, and did what I had to do to resolve that. 

The detective ultimately did a lot of great work, talked with a few other police agencies around the state who had similar cases, but in the end the county didn't want to pursue the case.  I'm thinking, probably because in the end I was out very little money - mostly mailings for the credit reporting agencies.   Eventually, my credit never took a hit for any of this, because of how quick everything happened and was ultimately resolved. 

As for the guy - he was known to have done this in a few other occasions, including some active cases.  He had already been caught previously and was in jail for it.  He got out and apparently continued to do it.  As for the vehicle, I've never heard about it.  As someone told me, hopefully it was put on a ship and sent out of the country before anyone knew what happened.  Just a month or two after this, someone used a Home Depot truck to run over some bicycling tourists in NYC.  That was my fear that the truck would be used in a crime like this!


Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on September 15, 2018, 02:25:30 PM
I've been murdered three times. It sucked.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: MantyMadTown on September 15, 2018, 02:43:18 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on September 15, 2018, 02:25:30 PM
I've been murdered three times. It sucked.

Good thing they brought you back all those times, otherwise you would've been gone for good
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: Beltway on September 15, 2018, 02:47:29 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on September 15, 2018, 09:44:40 AM
I was a victim of a series of home invasions in 2009-10, and the response was always, "Move to a neighborhood where this doesn't happen."

By people?  By wildlife?  By rising waters?  ???
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: Beltway on September 15, 2018, 02:48:58 PM
Quote from: MantyMadTown on September 15, 2018, 02:43:18 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on September 15, 2018, 02:25:30 PM
I've been murdered three times. It sucked.
Good thing they brought you back all those times, otherwise you would've been gone for good

Line from character in a movie:  "Being dead is not nearly as bad as I thought it would be".
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: jakeroot on September 15, 2018, 03:15:32 PM
I had my car windshield broken by a couple of mischievous youths prowling my alley late at night. They took an extinguisher to my Golf's windshield, and then proceeded to spray it down for fun. I thought it was funny, until I realized that tiny fragments of broken glass would probably be there for years (no matter how many times I detailed the car), and my deductible for a windshield replacement ($300) was more than the windshield.

More seriously, I've had two knives pulled on me:

* Once at a gas station, after someone failed to convince me to buy them half a tank of fuel (they won the argument, as you might imagine).

*The second time was at work, while I was a valet. Homeless guy walks off the street, hops into a lady's car (without a key), and tries to drive off. I pull him out of the car, and chase him down the driveway, only for him to turn around near the sidewalk and point a knife at me. I backed off, but then he ran off and proceeded to try and kill himself about 15 minutes later (according to Tacoma Police).
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 15, 2018, 03:25:39 PM
Quote from: MantyMadTown on September 15, 2018, 02:43:18 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on September 15, 2018, 02:25:30 PM
I've been murdered three times. It sucked.

Good thing they brought you back all those times, otherwise you would've been gone for good

Revived by Dragon Balls?
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: Brandon on September 15, 2018, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on September 15, 2018, 02:25:30 PM
I've been murdered three times. It sucked.

And was it Melisandre, or Thoros of Myr who brought you back?

/The night is dark and full of terrors.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: abefroman329 on September 15, 2018, 09:33:12 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on September 15, 2018, 02:25:30 PM
I've been murdered three times. It sucked.
I've only been mostly dead.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: formulanone on September 16, 2018, 06:16:00 AM
Quote from: Brandon on September 15, 2018, 09:13:11 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on September 15, 2018, 02:25:30 PM
I've been murdered three times. It sucked.

And was it Melisandre, or Thoros of Myr who brought you back?

/The night is dark and full of terrors.

The fires have told me to always carry extra quarters.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: Duke87 on September 16, 2018, 09:37:05 AM
I've had pieces of my car stolen while it was parked on the streets of New York City twice. First time I found my car sitting on cinderblocks with no wheels. Second time I found the drivers' side window smashed and the drivers' side airbag missing.

I also had someone attempt to carjack me once but that didn't work out for them since I didn't fall for their ruse. Guy starts pointing at my car while I'm stopped at a red light and yelling "yo there's some smoke coming out of your car right there" and waving at me to pull aside like he and his buddy were going to help me get some problem fixed. I floored it as soon as the light turned green. Found another place to pull over further down the road and look around under the hood. There was nothing wrong with the car, naturally.

And yeah I've had credit/debit card numbers stolen, but who hasn't. That's a minor annoyance, they cancel the card and send you a new one and you otherwise lose nothing.



Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: abefroman329 on September 16, 2018, 08:11:22 PM
Quote from: Duke87 on September 16, 2018, 09:37:05 AMAnd yeah I've had credit/debit card numbers stolen, but who hasn't. That's a minor annoyance, they cancel the card and send you a new one and you otherwise lose nothing.
Once I had my wallet stolen and my credit card company decided the fraudulent charges were not, in fact, fraudulent. There were a lot of hoops to jump through after that.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on September 16, 2018, 11:31:09 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on September 16, 2018, 08:11:22 PM
Quote from: Duke87 on September 16, 2018, 09:37:05 AMAnd yeah I've had credit/debit card numbers stolen, but who hasn't. That's a minor annoyance, they cancel the card and send you a new one and you otherwise lose nothing.
Once I had my wallet stolen and my credit card company decided the fraudulent charges were not, in fact, fraudulent. There were a lot of hoops to jump through after that.

Same. Lost my wallet on a bus and the assholes who found it decided to treat themselves to some shit at the gas station across the street from campus. Bank said "sorry, fuck you". At least it was "only" $12.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: Rothman on September 17, 2018, 08:13:33 AM
Come to think of it, when I lived in Greenbelt, MD, we had neighbors that attempted to break into our apartment.  The police's response was, "Yeah, you shouldn't live there."
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: michravera on September 17, 2018, 10:05:59 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 14, 2018, 01:51:11 PM
Anyone ever been stolen from, burglarized, assaulted, or otherwise victimized by a lawbreaker?

You mean besides being hit by a DUI (twice), Auto Burglary (about 5 times), Robbery (at Driver Training), and Domestic Violence (in a car), and Vehicular Assault? ... And that doesn't include acts (such as fraud, residential burglary, workers' comp fraud, phone menace and threats, auto menacing, intentional damaged to an occupied vehicle, gaming control violations, etc), that were probably crimes that I either didn't report or which I did report and LE or the DA decided not to pursue)  ...

Hey, almost all of mine are at least sort of on topic!
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: J N Winkler on September 17, 2018, 12:02:21 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on September 15, 2018, 09:44:40 AMI was a victim of a series of home invasions in 2009-10, and the response was always, "Move to a neighborhood where this doesn't happen."

Quote from: Rothman on September 17, 2018, 08:13:33 AMCome to think of it, when I lived in Greenbelt, MD, we had neighbors that attempted to break into our apartment.  The police's response was, "Yeah, you shouldn't live there."

I have never heard of a police department that shows much interest in solving property crimes unless there is some sort of surveillance evidence that allows a perpetrator to be identified, regardless of how prosperous the neighborhood is.  And even when footage is available for residential burglaries and auto thefts, typically from entry-level nannycam systems, I see it posted on Facebook a lot more often ("Please help us identify these awful people who drove up in a car and stole a package from my porch/got into my unlocked vehicle while I was idling it to warm it up on a cold morning") than I hear of any investigative effort being dedicated.

I think it ultimately comes down to triage of resources.  Police would rather have a burglar come in and clear up 70+ burglaries in consideration of leniency in sentencing rather than spend a lot of staff resource on just one burglary.  They would rather recover stolen property after it has been abandoned and is phoned in as a public nuisance (e.g., stolen vehicle taken for a joyride and then left at the curb for longer than whatever the curbside parking limit is in the community) than try to chase it using the theft itself as the starting point.

It is not at all uncommon for the police response to a property crime to bear far more heavily on the victim than on the perpetrator.  A few years ago, in my mostly Anglo subdivision, we had a Hispanic family living a few doors down on the other side of the street.  One day black graffiti was observed on the side of their house, alleging (in Spanish) that the daughter was a prostitute.  911 was called, as was the father, who was then at his job.  My mother observed the police officer and the father in the front yard in a tense standoff.  We later learned that the police officer had told the father to overpaint the graffiti immediately, as in go to the paint store and buy the supplies RIGHT NOW, don't wait until the weekend or whenever you think you might have the time.  AFAIK, the person responsible for the graffiti was never caught.

About a decade ago we had a spate of burglaries in our subdivision, none of which was ever solved.  We received support from the police to set up a neighborhood watch, and we were advised to keep exterior doors locked and garage doors shut.  (Previously it was quite common to leave doors unlocked when gardening or mowing the lawn, and to keep garage doors open for hours on end.)  Aside from this, there was no law-enforcement intervention.  This was in a fairly prosperous neighborhood, built out about thirty years ago, where SFR property values are at or slightly above the local median, in a ZIP code that has basically not seen any homicides over the last 25 years that were not somehow connected to domestic violence.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: abefroman329 on September 17, 2018, 12:24:43 PM
I haven't found the police to be particularly helpful when I'm filing a police report for no other reason than the fact that I'm required to in order to file an insurance claim. Nor do I expect them to; as noted above, they have bigger fish to fry.

I also found (and find) it pretty terrible that, the one time I had to file a police report when I left a smartphone in the back of a limo in NYC and had to file a police report in order to get a new one, the desk sergeant was a lot nicer to me than she was to any of the non-white people entering the precinct, but that's another story for another day (and another forum).
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: inkyatari on September 17, 2018, 02:15:36 PM
Least seriously, had a couple bicycles stolen from my front porch.

More seriously, In 1990, I was working the graveyard shift at a 7-11 on Caton Farm Rd. in Crest Hill, IL. Sometime around midnight a couple thugs came in, pointed a gun at my head and demanded all the money.  I gave them everything in the drawer, and $20 from the safe.  They demanded that I open the lotto machine.  I told them there's nothing in it, but they "insisted," so I opened it.  THey next "requested" my wallet. Then they demanded that I open the register in the liquor area, but that was a register I didn't have a key for. They took a board that was leaning against the wall and started hitting me with it.  It contacted on my thigh twice.  THen they started kicking me in the mouth, then threatened to shoot me if I didn't try protecting myself.  THen they fled.  Fortunately this was the time that the local cops came in for their nightly donut (I'm not joking.  I had been working this shift for a week, and like clockwork, they came in at this time to get a donut and coffee.)

Ultimately they got away with around $40 and a Playboy, and my wallet (which had nothing in it.)  The cops recovered my wallet behind the speedway gas station next door.

This whole situation is one reason I don't trust the news, because the newspaper stated "the robbers tore a piece of shelving loose and continually beat the clerk with it."
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: MantyMadTown on September 17, 2018, 04:03:19 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on September 17, 2018, 12:02:21 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on September 15, 2018, 09:44:40 AMI was a victim of a series of home invasions in 2009-10, and the response was always, "Move to a neighborhood where this doesn't happen."

Quote from: Rothman on September 17, 2018, 08:13:33 AMCome to think of it, when I lived in Greenbelt, MD, we had neighbors that attempted to break into our apartment.  The police's response was, "Yeah, you shouldn't live there."

I have never heard of a police department that shows much interest in solving property crimes unless there is some sort of surveillance evidence that allows a perpetrator to be identified, regardless of how prosperous the neighborhood is.  And even when footage is available for residential burglaries and auto thefts, typically from entry-level nannycam systems, I see it posted on Facebook a lot more often ("Please help us identify these awful people who drove up in a car and stole a package from my porch/got into my unlocked vehicle while I was idling it to warm it up on a cold morning") than I hear of any investigative effort being dedicated.

I think it ultimately comes down to triage of resources.  Police would rather have a burglar come in and clear up 70+ burglaries in consideration of leniency in sentencing rather than spend a lot of staff resource on just one burglary.  They would rather recover stolen property after it has been abandoned and is phoned in as a public nuisance (e.g., stolen vehicle taken for a joyride and then left at the curb for longer than whatever the curbside parking limit is in the community) than try to chase it using the theft itself as the starting point.

It is not at all uncommon for the police response to a property crime to bear far more heavily on the victim than on the perpetrator.  A few years ago, in my mostly Anglo subdivision, we had a Hispanic family living a few doors down on the other side of the street.  One day black graffiti was observed on the side of their house, alleging (in Spanish) that the daughter was a prostitute.  911 was called, as was the father, who was then at his job.  My mother observed the police officer and the father in the front yard in a tense standoff.  We later learned that the police officer had told the father to overpaint the graffiti immediately, as in go to the paint store and buy the supplies RIGHT NOW, don't wait until the weekend or whenever you think you might have the time.  AFAIK, the person responsible for the graffiti was never caught.

About a decade ago we had a spate of burglaries in our subdivision, none of which was ever solved.  We received support from the police to set up a neighborhood watch, and we were advised to keep exterior doors locked and garage doors shut.  (Previously it was quite common to leave doors unlocked when gardening or mowing the lawn, and to keep garage doors open for hours on end.)  Aside from this, there was no law-enforcement intervention.  This was in a fairly prosperous neighborhood, built out about thirty years ago, where SFR property values are at or slightly above the local median, in a ZIP code that has basically not seen any homicides over the last 25 years that were not somehow connected to domestic violence.

That honestly sounds insulting to the victims of property crimes. If the police are putting all the burden on the victims (or basically blowing them off), then it sounds like they're not doing their job.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: akotchi on September 17, 2018, 04:28:07 PM
I have had two different cars broken into.  For one car, the passenger side window was smashed, but nothing taken.  The other had no damage, but the glove compartment was ransacked -- I lost a camera (my sign camera) and a Tom-Tom.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: J N Winkler on September 17, 2018, 04:58:44 PM
Quote from: MantyMadTown on September 17, 2018, 04:03:19 PMThat honestly sounds insulting to the victims of property crimes. If the police are putting all the burden on the victims (or basically blowing them off), then it sounds like they're not doing their job.

Ultimately, it comes down to rational allocation of tax money.  If you report a property crime, you may get tea and sympathy, or you may not, but ultimately the police are not going to dedicate any resources to an investigation that has the theft or vandalism as the starting point.  An ounce of prevention is not worth a pound of cure in this case--it is more like a hundredweight of cure.

Part of the reason the police officer insisted on the graffiti being overpainted right away is that gangs tend to see vandalism left unrepaired as a sign the neighborhood is ripe for them to move in.  The empirical observation is that vandalism in general tends to be more of a problem in spaces that appear to be uncurated.  In urban freeway design and management contexts this can often drive decisions about underpass lighting, maintenance standards for prompt overpainting of graffiti, etc.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on September 17, 2018, 05:43:00 PM
Quote from: J N Winkler on September 17, 2018, 04:58:44 PM
Quote from: MantyMadTown on September 17, 2018, 04:03:19 PMThat honestly sounds insulting to the victims of property crimes. If the police are putting all the burden on the victims (or basically blowing them off), then it sounds like they're not doing their job.

Ultimately, it comes down to rational allocation of tax money.  If you report a property crime, you may get tea and sympathy, or you may not, but ultimately the police are not going to dedicate any resources to an investigation that has the theft or vandalism as the starting point.  An ounce of prevention is not worth a pound of cure in this case--it is more like a hundredweight of cure.

Part of the reason the police officer insisted on the graffiti being overpainted right away is that gangs tend to see vandalism left unrepaired as a sign the neighborhood is ripe for them to move in.  The empirical observation is that vandalism in general tends to be more of a problem in spaces that appear to be uncurated.  In urban freeway design and management contexts this can often drive decisions about underpass lighting, maintenance standards for prompt overpainting of graffiti, etc.

Essentially that's the basic gist of the Broken Windows Crime Prevention Theory.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: DandyDan on September 21, 2018, 09:42:19 PM
I had my car broken into twice. When I had my old Mercury Topaz, someone stole my winter coat when I was at a bar in Fremont, NE, and when I had my old Saturn SL2, someone stole a number of old CD's when I was at the old Borders in Omaha.  Don't leave anything out in plain sight, people
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: freebrickproductions on September 22, 2018, 01:58:10 PM
The worst for me (so far) has just been having my car gotten into over night twice after I left it unlocked both nights.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: tchafe1978 on September 23, 2018, 09:43:15 AM
We were "victims" once when some thieves "broke into" our cars overnight a number of years back. Being in a small town, my wife was used to leaving everything unlocked all the time, even though me, being from a bigger city, locked everything all the time, and tried to convince her to do the same. The thieves entered our cars at night and rummaged through them. We only lost a few dollars in cash, which I consider really lucky. My wife had left her car unlocked, with the keys and her purse inside. They had rummaged though the car and left things a mess, and we found her purse a block away in the street with her credit cards and other things scattered about. I had even left my car unlocked that night, even though I usually locked it. Luckily they didn't take anything from my car, not even my stack of CDs or my aftermarket stereo and speakers. They left the doors on the cars ajar as to not make noise slamming them shut, which was a clue they had been entered. A couple neighbors also had their cars rummaged through and left a mess, but they didn't really lose anything of value. The thieves were eventually caught when they used a cellphone they had taken and were able to be tracked. This incident finally convinced my wife to start locking everything up at night.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: abefroman329 on September 23, 2018, 05:26:31 PM
My wife is also from a small town, and also insisted on leaving the door to our apartments open (she seems to have cured herself of the habit now that we live in a townhouse). We were never robbed, though.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: slorydn1 on September 25, 2018, 03:24:06 AM
I was robbed 3 times during all those years I delivered pizza's. The first time, in the early 90's I was working for Domino's. I had a real turd for a car then and it was constantly breaking down. I had just finished two deliveries downtown (one to the jail, ironically enough) when my car broke down in front of the old Pak-A-Sak on East Front St. I had just used the pay phone (remember those?) to call my store to let them know of my predicament and went back to my car. I was messing with something under the hood when I heard a male voice say "hey you." I looked up and I was surrounded by several black male subjects and the one in front of me had a knife. He told me that I knew what time it was and to hand "it" over. I gave him all the money I had on me and the whole group took off. They were never caught. This was in broad daylight by the way.

The second time, also during the day, right after I started dispatching for the sheriff's office, I was working for Pizza Hut as a side job. I delivered to an apartment complex in one of the not so nice parts of town, but a place I had never had issues with before. The customer and I had just completed the transaction when what appeared to be a young teenaged black male came up beside me and did the old stick his hand in his pocket and point something at me trick. Little did he know that I had been observing him the entire time I was at the door and I saw him stick his empty hand in his sweatshirt pocket right before he walked up to me. He told me he wanted all of my money or I was going to get it. I convinced him that the customer paid with a check and if he wanted money he needed to come back to my truck with me so he could "get it". He complied.
I reached into my truck to get my "wallet" and imagine his surprise when I came out with a 6 inch .357 magnum and my cell phone (one of those ancient humongous bag phones that I had mounted in my car like a car phone).
I proned him out on the ground and called the local PD to come take out the trash. It turns out he was only 14 or 15, so he didn't get any jail time. I am sure he needed a change of underwear, though.

The 3rd time was the scariest. It was October 2005, right before my birthday and I was back delivering pizzas as a side job again. I was in another not so great neighborhood with a double delivery, and this one was at night. Both were on the same street. The first one went off without a hitch. The second one, I was having a lot of trouble finding the address, nothing in this neighborhood is marked worth a damn. I had just looped around a second time going back towards the first customer as the second address should have been really close to the first one. I saw 1 black male subject standing at the end of a driveway, I didn't notice them the first time. He was wearing hoodie and he started waiving me down, so I stopped short and asked if this was (whatever the number was) and he said "yes".

I stepped out of the car with the bag and looked at the ticket and realized I had made a mistake, I had given the drinks for this order to my first customer. I always kept a couple of extra 2 liters of the various kinds of soda we carried then in my trunk for just such an emergency. I read off the ticket while I was pulling the pizza's out of the bag and started to hand him the pizzas when a second black male subject started to walk up to me from the side. That made me feel uncomfortable so I started inching backwards towards my trunk (I was still at my open drivers door this whole time). I was telling the guy in front of me that I needed to get his soda out of my trunk when he set the pizza's down on my hood and drew a semi auto pistol and the second guy grabbed my left arm and went to shove me against the side of my car. I still had my gun hand free and I was carrying concealed, but really its pointless to draw on a drawn gun you will lose 90% of the time. I then heard multiple sets of foot steps running up from behind me and as I was shoved against the car they were now to my right and there were 3 more black male subjects running up-this last group seemed to be really young, like middle school to early high school aged (I was right, they were freshman).

They wanted all of my money but I told them I wasn't reaching for anything with that gun pointed at me, that my "bank" money was in my right front pocket and my wallet was in my right rear pocket. I had a bunch of coin change in my left front pocket if they wanted that too. The 3 little squirts shook me down while the second adult was holding me against the car. They messed up and got my credential case from the sheriff's office out of my right rear pocket and missed the wallet with all of the cash in it and took off running. The guy that had been holding me reached inside my car and shut it off and took my car keys, then ordered me into the car. They told me if I twitched in the next 30 seconds I would be dead, then they took off running. This was their undoing.

As a supervisor in the sheriff's office I was issued a portable 2 way radio even though I wasn't a sworn deputy.I had the radio on the front seat of my car. I drew my firearm and called in that I had just been involved in a "10-65  (armed robbery) just occurred" on the radio providing a full description of all 5 suspects and their direction of travel into the woods. I also advised responding units that I was armed with my side arm and I was running after them in that same general direction (I was BEYOND pissed and not thinking real clearly at that moment).

Everyone heard my radio call. I had units from 3 different departments swarming around me in less than 3 minutes-and yes those 3 minutes felt like 3 hours.

To make the long story short, we caught the 2 main actors (adults) in less than 20 minutes. They dime'd out the other 3 punks and they were dragged out of school in hand cuffs the next day. They said they all knew they were screwed when they went to open the wallet and found it wasn't a wallet but a credential case with my badge and ID (we had badges too, the difference was mine said Dispatcher where a sworn deputy's badge would say "Deputy Sheriff" on the banner).


This is what makes it the scariest of all. They guy that pulled the gun on me ended up murdering someone in another county less than a year later while he was out on bond for my robbery. I found out about that because our captain in charge of investigations pulled me into his office to tell me about it. To this day I wish I had been in a better tactical situation when the robbery went down, I might have been able to prevent someone else from being murdered down the road. I also know it's stupid to think that way but it is what it is I guess.

Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: formulanone on September 25, 2018, 05:55:27 AM
Quote from: slorydn1 on September 25, 2018, 03:24:06 AM
This is what makes it the scariest of all. They guy that pulled the gun on me ended up murdering someone in another county less than a year later while he was out on bond for my robbery. I found out about that because our captain in charge of investigations pulled me into his office to tell me about it. To this day I wish I had been in a better tactical situation when the robbery went down, I might have been able to prevent someone else from being murdered down the road. I also know it's stupid to think that way but it is what it is I guess.

Wow...this puts most any of my crimes to shame. You can't look into the future and tell what someone else will do, even if they are a worthless cretin.

You've also scared me out of ever delivering pizzas again, though the store I worked at intentionally didn't use car-roof signs, to deter robberies.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: sparker on September 27, 2018, 05:15:26 PM
Back in the spring of 1977, I was living in an older house in Palo Alto (CA), which my roommate had rigged up with magnetic latches on the old wooden sash-type windows and foil tape on the glass itself to form a full house-wide loop with an alarm that would go off (and dial the local cops) if the loop was broken.  Being an audiophile, I had (at '77 prices) a couple thousand dollars' worth of gear in my room, occupying a board/brick setup near a window.  Well -- I was victim to a "snatch & run"; someone broke the window and tape and set off the alarm (I was notified at work); they got what they could in likely about 15-30 seconds and got the hell out of there -- luckily nothing really valuable was near the window; they got an old cassette deck I was using to make tape copies (didn't get my good Akai) and a small handheld cassette player sitting on the shelf next to it.  Probably worth $25 for both at stolen/street prices.  Got lucky on that one; put bars on the windows the next week. 
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: In_Correct on October 01, 2018, 09:09:26 AM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 14, 2018, 01:51:11 PM
Anyone ever been stolen from, burglarized, assaulted, or otherwise victimized by a lawbreaker?

Yes, I have been victimized many times. And each of those times the people either knew me or tried to get to know me. Or when they are in a position of power of which they abuse.

The only time a complete random stranger that tried to attack within seconds of arriving was at a rest area: a woman bumming for money. I called her bluff be cause after she said her wallet fell down the storm drain, I asked her what it looked like. She clarified that she wanted money, not help looking for it. I said that I am out of gas for my self, and that remark seemed to be enough to make her go away.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: AlexandriaVA on October 01, 2018, 09:35:39 AM
Credit card skimmed by an otherwise nice coffee shop husband-and-wife team.

https://www.arlnow.com/2017/10/18/caffe-aficionado-credit-card-fraud-suspect-pleads-guilty/
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: US 81 on October 01, 2018, 10:12:08 AM
Some experiences I'd rather not discuss, but I will share this one: Years (twentyfive or so) ago, my boring old sedan (along with several other cars at the apartment complex where we lived) was broken into. I had an in-car stereo with a removable face-plate, which was with me in our apartment at the time. They damaged but did not entirely break the stereo - I was able to re-mount the face-plate but no longer able to remove it. They also got the two 12-packs of DIET Mountain Dew I had in the trunk.

I sometimes had a chuckle imagining the vandal's disappointment when they realized it was diet soda.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: inkyatari on October 01, 2018, 11:35:27 AM
Quote from: AlexandriaVA on October 01, 2018, 09:35:39 AM
Credit card skimmed by an otherwise nice coffee shop husband-and-wife team.

https://www.arlnow.com/2017/10/18/caffe-aficionado-credit-card-fraud-suspect-pleads-guilty/

I love this comment on the page...

QuoteG Clifford Prout - a year ago

Coffee cooker Clark caught cloning counterfeit credit cards,
coincidentally, conspiring cohort "Carol" copying cards concurrently.
Cops cuff café charge card criminals, close caffeine concession.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: abefroman329 on October 01, 2018, 01:29:47 PM
Diet Mountain Dew is an acquired taste.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: sparker on October 01, 2018, 03:26:57 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 01, 2018, 01:29:47 PM
Diet Mountain Dew is an acquired taste.

............with a hell of a lot more caffeine than most other sodas!  If the burglars binge-drank the stuff, they'd be staying up all night -- hopefully not devising more efficient ways to carry on their nefarious activities!
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: kphoger on October 01, 2018, 04:26:42 PM
Quote from: slorydn1 on September 25, 2018, 03:24:06 AM
this last group seemed to be really young, like middle school to early high school aged (I was right, they were freshman).

Short little punks scare me way more than big burly dudes.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: bugo on November 26, 2018, 08:56:58 AM
I had an incident with an armed man last week at work.

Nexus 5X

Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: US71 on November 27, 2018, 09:34:46 AM
I had my van broken into about 15 years ago. Lost my best SCA costume and half my merchandise.  About 6 years ago, I had my storage locker broken into and lost  a bunch of merchandise, but no personal items (which were cleverly hidden, anyway).
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: paulthemapguy on November 29, 2018, 12:13:34 PM
I was in a hit-and-run accident.  On my 16th birthday.  No, I was not driving, and it wasn't my fault.  I was car #3 in a 4-car sandwich. 

Quote from: abefroman329 on October 01, 2018, 01:29:47 PM
Diet Mountain Dew is an acquired taste.

WTF?
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: abefroman329 on November 29, 2018, 12:16:47 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on November 29, 2018, 12:13:34 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 01, 2018, 01:29:47 PM
Diet Mountain Dew is an acquired taste.

WTF?
I hated it the first time I had it, but it was the only diet soda the law firm I worked for about a decade ago kept stocked in the fridge other than Diet Coke, so eventually, I liked it OK, I guess.  I still prefer regular Mountain Dew, and really prefer Mountain Dew Throwback.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: US71 on November 29, 2018, 12:33:12 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 29, 2018, 12:16:47 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on November 29, 2018, 12:13:34 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on October 01, 2018, 01:29:47 PM
Diet Mountain Dew is an acquired taste.

WTF?
I hated it the first time I had it, but it was the only diet soda the law firm I worked for about a decade ago kept stocked in the fridge other than Diet Coke, so eventually, I liked it OK, I guess.  I still prefer regular Mountain Dew, and really prefer Mountain Dew Throwback.

One store here sells single cans. A couple stores sell it in the bottle WHEN they have it.
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on December 11, 2018, 07:17:00 PM
We had an armed robber come through our neighborhood today. He was caught a couple of miles down the road from my house.
(no, he did NOT target our residence)
https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/person-of-interest-in-custody-after-series-of-burglaries-near-sunbury/1653343327 (https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/person-of-interest-in-custody-after-series-of-burglaries-near-sunbury/1653343327)
https://www.10tv.com/article/man-arrested-following-garage-break-ins-delaware-county (https://www.10tv.com/article/man-arrested-following-garage-break-ins-delaware-county)
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: hotdogPi on December 11, 2018, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on December 11, 2018, 07:17:00 PM
(no, he did target our residence)

Typo?
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: kevinb1994 on December 11, 2018, 07:45:26 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 11, 2018, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on December 11, 2018, 07:17:00 PM
(no, he did target our residence)

Typo?

^^
Title: Re: Has anyone here ever been the victim of a crime?
Post by: Hot Rod Hootenanny on December 11, 2018, 07:51:21 PM
Quote from: 1 on December 11, 2018, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on December 11, 2018, 07:17:00 PM
(no, he did target our residence)

Typo?

qui. (original post now fixed)