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Started by mukade, October 25, 2012, 09:27:04 PM

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Indyroads

Quote from: mukade on October 25, 2012, 09:27:04 PM
1) I saw my first centerline rumble strip in Indiana on SR 26 near Kokomo. I know the contract lettings had one for US 231, but the first bids were rejected.




2) News article: INDOT Nears Construction Season End

The centerline rumblestrip is a good idea. also the use of sunken markers placed into recessed pockets in the roadway could be used to prevent slowplows from removing them prematurely, similar to snowprone roads in the Sierras.
And a highway will be there;
    it will be called the Way of Holiness;
    it will be for those who walk on that Way.
The unclean will not journey on it;
    wicked fools will not go about on it.
Isaiah 35:8-10 (NIV)


Brandon

Quote from: Indyroads on September 12, 2013, 02:15:17 AM
The centerline rumblestrip is a good idea. also the use of sunken markers placed into recessed pockets in the roadway could be used to prevent slowplows from removing them prematurely, similar to snowprone roads in the Sierras.

And similar to neighboring Illinois.  Illinois also uses the recessed reflectors.
"If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention." - Ramsay Bolton

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Indyroads

Quote from: Brandon on September 12, 2013, 03:07:28 PM
Quote from: Indyroads on September 12, 2013, 02:15:17 AM
The centerline rumblestrip is a good idea. also the use of sunken markers placed into recessed pockets in the roadway could be used to prevent slowplows from removing them prematurely, similar to snowprone roads in the Sierras.
And similar to neighboring Illinois.  Illinois also uses the recessed reflectors.

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/09/13/highway-safety
Another idea like for the reflectors is to have pavement markings recessed below the roadway surface as well. This can help avoid the snowplow wear and tear as well as longevity of the road markings.
And a highway will be there;
    it will be called the Way of Holiness;
    it will be for those who walk on that Way.
The unclean will not journey on it;
    wicked fools will not go about on it.
Isaiah 35:8-10 (NIV)

hbelkins

Quote from: Captain Jack on September 12, 2013, 01:54:26 AM
Rarely, do you see cities under 100,000 listed as control cities.

Wytheville says hello. As do Bluefield, Beckley, Parkersburg, Clarksburg, Lewisburg and Winchester.


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amroad17

And Ashland, Carlisle, Jamestown, Elmira, Binghamton, and any city along I-80 in Pennsylvania.
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Brandon

Quote from: hbelkins on September 12, 2013, 10:23:24 PM
Quote from: Captain Jack on September 12, 2013, 01:54:26 AM
Rarely, do you see cities under 100,000 listed as control cities.

Wytheville says hello. As do Bluefield, Beckley, Parkersburg, Clarksburg, Lewisburg and Winchester.

Green Bay also says hello.  As do Cheyenne, Casper, Jacksonville (IL), Quincy, Hannibal, Decatur, and DeKalb (IL).
"If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention." - Ramsay Bolton

"Symbolic of his struggle against reality." - Reg

Alps

Quote from: Brandon on September 13, 2013, 06:18:25 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 12, 2013, 10:23:24 PM
Quote from: Captain Jack on September 12, 2013, 01:54:26 AM
Rarely, do you see cities under 100,000 listed as control cities.

Wytheville says hello. As do Bluefield, Beckley, Parkersburg, Clarksburg, Lewisburg and Winchester.

Green Bay also says hello.  As do Cheyenne, Casper, Jacksonville (IL), Quincy, Hannibal, Decatur, and DeKalb (IL).
Rather than continue this thread, let's just say that 100,000 is by no means a defining criterion, and continue with Indiana.

mgk920

Quote from: Brandon on September 13, 2013, 06:18:25 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on September 12, 2013, 10:23:24 PM
Quote from: Captain Jack on September 12, 2013, 01:54:26 AM
Rarely, do you see cities under 100,000 listed as control cities.

Wytheville says hello. As do Bluefield, Beckley, Parkersburg, Clarksburg, Lewisburg and Winchester.

Green Bay also says hello.  As do Cheyenne, Casper, Jacksonville (IL), Quincy, Hannibal, Decatur, and DeKalb (IL).

Actually, the USCensus guys found 104,057 people living in Green Bay in 2010.

OTOH, the control for US(I)-41 on the freeways in metro Milwaukee is 'Fond du Lac' (2010 USCensus - 43,021).

:nod:

Mike

amroad17

Once US 41 becomes I-41, the control city may change to Green Bay (it should).

Anyway, enough about Wisconsin.  Any information on Indiana projects?
I don't need a GPS.  I AM the GPS! (for family and friends)

silverback1065

Quote from: amroad17 on September 18, 2013, 04:31:09 PM
Once US 41 becomes I-41, the control city may change to Green Bay (it should).

Anyway, enough about Wisconsin.  Any information on Indiana projects?

US 31 in Kokomo will have traffic shifted onto the new SR 931 bridge soon, SR 25 is to be opened completely soon, and US 31 in hamilton county will have traffic shifted onto the new side. 

mukade

Quote from: silverback1065 on September 18, 2013, 05:22:31 PM
US 31 in Kokomo will have traffic shifted onto the new SR 931 bridge soon, SR 25 is to be opened completely soon, and US 31 in hamilton county will have traffic shifted onto the new side. 

- US 31 Kokomo traffic was shifted a few days ago. The new highway is supposed to open November 30.
- SR 25 is supposed to open in late October

NWI_Irish96

Quote from: mukade on September 18, 2013, 09:35:59 PM
Quote from: silverback1065 on September 18, 2013, 05:22:31 PM
US 31 in Kokomo will have traffic shifted onto the new SR 931 bridge soon, SR 25 is to be opened completely soon, and US 31 in hamilton county will have traffic shifted onto the new side. 

- US 31 Kokomo traffic was shifted a few days ago. The new highway is supposed to open November 30.
- SR 25 is supposed to open in late October


That's the first time I've heard a date on the Kokomo opening.  I just happen to be going up 31 on the 27th and then back on the 1st, so I guess half the trip on the new road is better than nothing.
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tdindy88

Personally, I'm planning a trip that would include the new West Lafayette bypass, all of SR 25 and the Kokomo Bypass all on one day. I'm guessing it will be sometime in December.

Indyroads

Quote from: cabiness42 on September 19, 2013, 07:34:11 AM
Quote from: mukade on September 18, 2013, 09:35:59 PM
Quote from: silverback1065 on September 18, 2013, 05:22:31 PM
US 31 in Kokomo will have traffic shifted onto the new SR 931 bridge soon, SR 25 is to be opened completely soon, and US 31 in hamilton county will have traffic shifted onto the new side. 

- US 31 Kokomo traffic was shifted a few days ago. The new highway is supposed to open November 30.
- SR 25 is supposed to open in late October


That's the first time I've heard a date on the Kokomo opening.  I just happen to be going up 31 on the 27th and then back on the 1st, so I guess half the trip on the new road is better than nothing.

Personally i don't understand why Indot isn't relinquishing the US-31 segment that is being resigned as SR-931. It seems that if they are removing a perfectly good route (US-52) and rerouting that through a narrow 2 lane road bypassing the 4 lane expressway it was on before then why have SR-931. 
And a highway will be there;
    it will be called the Way of Holiness;
    it will be for those who walk on that Way.
The unclean will not journey on it;
    wicked fools will not go about on it.
Isaiah 35:8-10 (NIV)

silverback1065

Quote from: Indyroads on September 19, 2013, 03:50:37 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on September 19, 2013, 07:34:11 AM
Quote from: mukade on September 18, 2013, 09:35:59 PM
Quote from: silverback1065 on September 18, 2013, 05:22:31 PM
US 31 in Kokomo will have traffic shifted onto the new SR 931 bridge soon, SR 25 is to be opened completely soon, and US 31 in hamilton county will have traffic shifted onto the new side. 

- US 31 Kokomo traffic was shifted a few days ago. The new highway is supposed to open November 30.
- SR 25 is supposed to open in late October


That's the first time I've heard a date on the Kokomo opening.  I just happen to be going up 31 on the 27th and then back on the 1st, so I guess half the trip on the new road is better than nothing.

Personally i don't understand why Indot isn't relinquishing the US-31 segment that is being resigned as SR-931. It seems that if they are removing a perfectly good route (US-52) and rerouting that through a narrow 2 lane road bypassing the 4 lane expressway it was on before then why have SR-931.
931 will be let go soon, they just haven't inked out the terms of the deal, so until both sides agree, it will remain sr 931.  (same reason why right now there are 2 us 231s in WLaff)

bmeiser

Quote from: tdindy88 on September 19, 2013, 03:31:24 PM
Personally, I'm planning a trip that would include the new West Lafayette bypass, all of SR 25 and the Kokomo Bypass all on one day. I'm guessing it will be sometime in December.

That sounds like a good idea.  Although I personally might do it the other way as an ass-backwards way of getting to Lafayette.

mukade

Kokomo wants something more like Carmel got for SR 431 while INDOT wants something more like the rebuilding of Sagamore Pkwy in Lafayette. Nothing like what was done in Carmel will happen so just like with SR 933, it is all up to the local government agencies.

silverback1065

I heard that SR 130 has been handed over to Valpo, what are the official ends of this highway now?

nwi_navigator_1181

Quote from: silverback1065 on September 27, 2013, 01:02:45 AM
I heard that SR 130 has been handed over to Valpo, what are the official ends of this highway now?

It was said the north end would remain at US 6 in Hobart. When the transfer goes down, the south end will be at Indiana 149.
"Slower Traffic Keep Right" means just that.
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catch22

According to this article from the Ft. Wayne Journal-Gazette, US-24 is being rerouted to I-69/I-469 on the north side of Ft. Wayne, instead of the south side.

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20131015/LOCAL16/131019629

Alex

Quote from: catch22 on October 16, 2013, 09:54:32 AM
According to this article from the Ft. Wayne Journal-Gazette, US-24 is being rerouted to I-69/I-469 on the north side of Ft. Wayne, instead of the south side.

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20131015/LOCAL16/131019629

Question is are they just adding shields or are they also augmenting guide signs. It could mean the end of those US 27 markers for I69 at the north end of I469.




silverback1065

#46
That original idea was stupid from the beginning, I don't know why they didn't try to route 24 on lafayette center road when they upgraded it, this new routing now at least makes sense.  US 27 still goes through the heart of ft wayne right?  The above post is inaccurate saying that us 27 follows 69 (INDOTs error) I always thought 27 ended at Lima road and 69 interchange. 

Brandon

Quote from: silverback1065 on October 16, 2013, 04:18:28 PM
That original idea was stupid from the beginning, I don't know why they didn't try to route 24 on lafayette center road when they upgraded it, this new routing now at least makes sense.  US 27 still goes through the heart of ft wayne right?  The above post is inaccurate saying that us 27 follows 69 (INDOTs error) I always thought 27 ended at Lima road and 69 interchange. 

US-27 went north into Michigan until 2001.  This sign predates the truncation of US-27 to Fort Wayne.
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"Symbolic of his struggle against reality." - Reg

silverback1065

Quote from: Brandon on October 16, 2013, 04:32:48 PM
Quote from: silverback1065 on October 16, 2013, 04:18:28 PM
That original idea was stupid from the beginning, I don't know why they didn't try to route 24 on lafayette center road when they upgraded it, this new routing now at least makes sense.  US 27 still goes through the heart of ft wayne right?  The above post is inaccurate saying that us 27 follows 69 (INDOTs error) I always thought 27 ended at Lima road and 69 interchange. 

US-27 went north into Michigan until 2001.  This sign predates the truncation of US-27 to Fort Wayne.

That's what I thought, surprising a sign like that is still up there after all these years.  There's still a lone SR 37 sign on the southside on Madison Ave.

agentsteel53

I remember in 2006 finding the truncated north end of US-27... and just to the north, past the intersection, there was a US-27 north reassurance assembly!

that was the only one I found in Indiana, but I did not drive all of former 27, just up to US-6.
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