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Title: Auto Correct
Post by: roadman65 on June 15, 2022, 03:51:30 PM
How do you feel about it?

  To me personally it comes in handy, but many times it changes words that you need not changed.  Plus writing takes longer as you got to proof read and change their errors back to what your thought is supposed to be.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: abefroman329 on June 15, 2022, 03:53:35 PM
It's helpful 90% of the time, and the other 10% of the time is me typing "fucking" and having it auto-correct to "ducking."
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: hotdogPi on June 15, 2022, 04:02:42 PM
I have autocorrect discipled on my computer because I want to know exactly what I'm taping. I do, however have manually created shirt cuts such as "inde" → "independent", "indi" → individual, "thr" → through (this one misses with my phone because they're shared across my two advices and it's much easier to type the wrong key on a phone than a psychical keyboard), "bec" → because, etc.

On my phone, autocorrect is much more useful, as it's easier to mistype keys, but it always insects on changing the one-key-off misspelling "hone" to "gone" when I pretty much always mean "home".

For some reason, autocorrect doesn't seem to know the deference between its and it's.

What I did in this post is international.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: kphoger on June 15, 2022, 04:55:49 PM
Quote from: 1 on June 15, 2022, 04:02:42 PM
I have autocorrect discipled on my computer because I want to know exactly what I'm taping. I do, however have manually created shirt cuts such as "inde" → "independent", "indi" → individual, "thr" → through (this one misses with my phone because they're shared across my two advices and it's much easier to type the wrong key on a phone than a psychical keyboard), "bec" → because, etc.

On my phone, autocorrect is much more useful, as it's easier to mistype keys, but it always insects on changing the one-key-off misspelling "hone" to "gone" when I pretty much always mean "home".

For some reason, autocorrect doesn't seem to know the deference between its and it's.

What I did in this post is international.

Well done!   :clap:
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: Big John on June 15, 2022, 05:06:51 PM
I want it to detect errors and give suggestions, but a big "No" to changing it without my permission.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: 1995hoo on June 15, 2022, 05:31:23 PM
I have no idea why "its" versus "it's" confounds it so much.





Also, from another thread:

Quote from: 1995hoo on May 15, 2022, 10:24:25 PM
Unrelated to the above (and hence the reason for the double post):

The woman who sits in front of us at Verizon Center always wears jeans that don't fit properly and invariably exposes buttcrack at some point during a game when she stands up. It's become a running joke among our season-ticket group. My wife and I know her name, but our season ticket partners apparently don't and they've taken to calling her "Buttcrack" and viewing her as the team's lucky charm (e.g., "No Buttcrack tonight, we're sunk.").

This has become so pervasive that my phone has discovered it:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220516/36eac7cda3e88707c34f1823dc13fa75.jpeg)
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: Takumi on June 15, 2022, 06:21:20 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on June 15, 2022, 03:53:35 PM
It's helpful 90% of the time, and the other 10% of the time is me typing "fucking" and having it auto-correct to "ducking."
It's always irritating when you misspell it, and since the dictionary doesn't think it's a valid word in the first place, it doesn't correct it, even though you've used the word on the device a thousand times.

Also annoying is when you make a mistake so many times the dictionary turns it into a valid word. This happened to me with the word "definitely" , and the misspelling "defintiely" .
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: Scott5114 on June 15, 2022, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 15, 2022, 05:31:23 PM
I have no idea why "its" versus "it's" confounds it so much.

Same here. One would think "its" and "it's" occur with enough frequency that it would just leave them both alone, but it seems to love to change it to the wrong one if you don't babysit it.




On the other hand, I do love the sentences predictive text comes up with sometimes:

(https://i.imgur.com/WOTtoHo.jpg)
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: US 89 on June 15, 2022, 10:57:08 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 15, 2022, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 15, 2022, 05:31:23 PM
I have no idea why "its" versus "it's" confounds it so much.

Same here. One would think "its" and "it's" occur with enough frequency that it would just leave them both alone, but it seems to love to change it to the wrong one if you don't babysit it.

Yep. This is perhaps my single biggest pet peeve. It will also fuck up "were" and "we're" though not to the same level.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: Scott5114 on June 15, 2022, 11:42:39 PM
Also "ill" and "I'll". This is a problem when you're talking about a friend who's feeling I'll.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: kphoger on June 16, 2022, 12:38:52 PM
My phone uses T9 predictive text technology, so I don't really experience auto-correct per se.  But here's my most frustrating one:

If I begin a sentence by hitting [4][6], the phone comes up with 32 suggestions for what I might be trying to type, but not a single one of them is "In".  So, basically, my phone's logic has determined that I should never have any reason to begin a sentence with the word "In".  On the other hand, it thinks the following are more likely:  "Gm" (5th suggestion), "Iow" (18th), and "Imd" (30th)–all of which I'm pretty sure I've never intended.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: Scott5114 on June 16, 2022, 12:53:04 PM
I dunno, have you ever had a discussion about G-minor chords in ¾ of Iowa?

I know you're doing the whole not-smartphone thing, but I could never go back to T9. The sweet spot for technology for me was right before smartphones were a thing, when they had a full physical QWERTY keyboard for texting purposes but before they figured out they could make money spying on you.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: kphoger on June 16, 2022, 01:16:22 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 16, 2022, 12:53:04 PM
I dunno, have you ever had a discussion about G-minor chords in ¾ of Iowa?

I know you're doing the whole not-smartphone thing, but I could never go back to T9. The sweet spot for technology for me was right before smartphones were a thing, when they had a full physical QWERTY keyboard for texting purposes but before they figured out they could make money spying on you.

Oh yeah, I have typed "Iowa" in a text message before.  But not about G-minor chords.

As for phones, I still miss the RAZR V3 line.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: triplemultiplex on June 16, 2022, 03:29:44 PM
Phones are constantly screwing me over autocorrecting the words "well" and "we'll".
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: wanderer2575 on June 16, 2022, 04:01:28 PM
I don't know who is the author or how many decades ago I came across this:

QuoteEye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea.
It plainly marques four my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.

Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write —
It shows me strait a weigh.

As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long.
And eye can put the error rite —
Its rare lea ever wrong.

Eye have run this poem threw it
I am shore your pleased two no
It's letter-perfect awl the weigh —
My chequer tolled me sew.

Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: jlam on June 16, 2022, 04:37:33 PM
It's ducking stupid.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: kkt on June 16, 2022, 07:01:54 PM
It's a demon from hell.  I'd like to put a stake through it and send it back there.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: jeffandnicole on June 16, 2022, 07:30:49 PM
I like my android, but it's auto correct is horrendous. So many times I type the correct word and it changes it to something else.  Or I mis-type a word (thr instead of the is a common one for me) and it doesn't change a thing. 
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: Big John on June 16, 2022, 07:40:35 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on June 16, 2022, 07:30:49 PM
I like my android, but it's auto correct is horrendous. So many times I type the correct word and it changes it to something else.  Or I mis-type a word (thr instead of the is a common one for me) and it doesn't change a thing. 
So it autocorrected "it's" to you too?
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: skluth on June 16, 2022, 08:18:43 PM
I think half the it's/its autocorrect problem is a lot of coders don't understand a lot of the rules of the English language. I'm not blaming those whose first language isn't English; many typically have better English writing skills than most native speakers regardless of how incomprehensible their accent may be. I turned it off. That should tell you my feelings about it.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: Scott5114 on June 16, 2022, 08:37:29 PM
It's not so much that, it's that the rules of the English language are not very clear cut at all, and often depend on context. It's very difficult to program context into a system, especially while the context is still being written.

Like, consider "I'll" vs. "ill". A human can instantly tell which one is correct because the word after "I'll" is usually a verb and the word after "ill" is usually a noun (consider the sentence "I'll go to the store for my ill grandmother"). But if a sentence is in the middle of being typed, how the heck is the computer going to know which one you want?
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: kkt on June 16, 2022, 09:11:17 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on June 16, 2022, 08:37:29 PM
It's not so much that, it's that the rules of the English language are not very clear cut at all, and often depend on context. It's very difficult to program context into a system, especially while the context is still being written.

Like, consider "I'll" vs. "ill". A human can instantly tell which one is correct because the word after "I'll" is usually a verb and the word after "ill" is usually a noun (consider the sentence "I'll go to the store for my ill grandmother"). But if a sentence is in the middle of being typed, how the heck is the computer going to know which one you want?

If it doesn't know, it shouldn't try to fix it.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on June 17, 2022, 01:18:48 AM
What I find more infuriating about it is when it "corrects" a properly-spelled word to something else by trying to guess that you really meant something else, when 90% of the time you meant what you typed the first time.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: 1995hoo on June 17, 2022, 08:24:53 AM
One potential downside of autocorrect is that you get so used to it that you sometimes forget that it's not available in various applications on your PC and you type, for example, "wouldnt" expecting the software will automatically insert the apostrophe. (This just happened to me a minute ago.) Minor nuisance, to be sure, but nevertheless a bit of an annoyance. At least I usually sense it when I make a spelling error as I'm typing on a real keyboard. Not sure why or how, but somehow I usually sense it.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: kphoger on June 17, 2022, 09:37:30 AM
Quote from: skluth on June 16, 2022, 08:18:43 PM
I think half the it's/its autocorrect problem is a lot of coders don't understand a lot of the rules of the English language. I'm not blaming those whose first language isn't English; many typically have better English writing skills than most native speakers regardless of how incomprehensible their accent may be. I turned it off. That should tell you my feelings about it.

Quote from: Scott5114 on June 16, 2022, 08:37:29 PM
It's not so much that, it's that the rules of the English language are not very clear cut at all, and often depend on context. It's very difficult to program context into a system, especially while the context is still being written.

Like, consider "I'll" vs. "ill". A human can instantly tell which one is correct because the word after "I'll" is usually a verb and the word after "ill" is usually a noun (consider the sentence "I'll go to the store for my ill grandmother"). But if a sentence is in the middle of being typed, how the heck is the computer going to know which one you want?

Exactly.  Consider these two examples, and tell me how your phone is supposed to know which one is supposed to get an apostrophe and which one isn't.

1.  It's not so much that, it's that the rules of the English language are not very clear cut at all, and often depend on context.  It's very difficult to program context into a system, especially while the context is still being written.

2.  The captain of the Quindaro Football Club says he's ready to shake the dust from what has been by all accounts an absolute wreck of a year. Its very difficult season ended with a crushing 34—13 defeat yesterday against the Shiratora Warblers.

Quote from: kkt on June 16, 2022, 09:11:17 PM
If it doesn't know, it shouldn't try to fix it.

Are you swiping to text?  Back when I had a phone with swipe-to-text, I never bothered to swipe my finger across the punctuation key for apostrophes.  I just trusted the app to know when the word would need an apostrophe.  So, basically, my app "correcting" ill to I'll is precisely what I expected it to do 99% of the time.  In fact, it would have been rather annoying if it didn't.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: kkt on June 17, 2022, 12:54:58 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 17, 2022, 09:37:30 AM
Are you swiping to text?  Back when I had a phone with swipe-to-text, I never bothered to swipe my finger across the punctuation key for apostrophes.  I just trusted the app to know when the word would need an apostrophe.  So, basically, my app "correcting" ill to I'll is precisely what I expected it to do 99% of the time.  In fact, it would have been rather annoying if it didn't.

No, actually I don't text much and when I do it's the hard way, multiple presses on the 10-key pad to make letters.  My most common text is something like:  "Can u call me when you got a min?"  But my errors and my deliberate ignoring of punctuation rules are my own.

Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: hbelkins on June 17, 2022, 08:24:46 PM
Siri has issues with my hillbilly accent. I have to double-check anything I dictate to make sure the phone understood me correctly. And woe be unto me if I speak the word "ice" into the phone, because it always comes out "ass."

I don't know if the "Damn You Auto Correct" site is still active or not, but I used to read some of the aggregate postings from it aloud to my wife, and both of us would nearly be in tears from laughter during the process.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: roadman65 on June 18, 2022, 08:32:29 AM
Spell correct also can be oblivious to certain words like " environment."   I had to go to a paper dictionary to find the spelling of it cause entering any forms of letter arrangement that should have made it obvious to the algorithm  made the crazy program totally ignorant.  IMO it should have figured out what I was attempting.

Then "really" to "realm"  on my phone was more annoying than trying to write Pasco, a proper name and incorporated County in Florida on the same device.  Yes Pasco County got changed to something else regardless.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: 1995hoo on June 18, 2022, 09:04:47 AM
Autocorrect needs to change "should of" to "should have" for people who either don't know the correct spelling or who are unwilling to use it.

Regarding Siri, I was dictating a message once and I used the word "hoops," as in basketball. Somehow, Siri decided I said "poops," which made no sense in context.
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: zachary_amaryllis on June 18, 2022, 10:43:23 AM
I use the voice-to-text thingie on my android.

Attempted to send to mom: "What is this moisture coming from the sky?"
What got sent: "What is this moisture coming from this guy?"
Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: webny99 on June 19, 2022, 10:45:30 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on June 17, 2022, 08:24:46 PM
Siri has issues with my hillbilly accent. I have to double-check anything I dictate to make sure the phone understood me correctly. And woe be unto me if I speak the word "ice" into the phone, because it always comes out "ass."

I think I've noted this before, but "ice" in a hillbilly accent and "ass" in a Pacific Northwest accent really do sound identical. Both sound like "ahh-s", which is amusing to hear regardless of what the person is intending to say.  :-D

That isn't how I would pronounce either word (or any other word, for that matter) - but it's interesting how two words with no obvious resemblance sound so similar in different accents.

Title: Re: Auto Correct
Post by: webny99 on June 19, 2022, 10:46:56 PM
Quote from: zachary_amaryllis on June 18, 2022, 10:43:23 AM
Attempted to send to mom: "What is this moisture coming from the sky?"
What got sent: "What is this moisture coming from this guy?"

Ha, that's definitely one of the funnier autocorrect stories I've heard! :-D