It's fun to straddle or jump back and forth between a border between two or more countries/states/counties etc. I've always thought it would be pretty neat to do the same thing between two years, by going to a time zone border at New Year's.
Anyone here ever done this?
Or perhaps crossed between years while driving or flying over time zone border?
The only time I've traveled long-distance on New Year's Eve, the journey was all before midnight (Amtrak) and all within one time zone, so I didn't get to experience the situation you have in mind. Plenty of fireworks to see in the distance, though.
Tonight we are going to a local bar and grill that is doing a toast at midnight London time - 6 pm local time. Which is perfect when you have a baby.
Quote from: abefroman329 on December 31, 2018, 03:55:53 PM
Tonight we are going to a local bar and grill that is doing a toast at midnight London time - 6 pm local time. Which is perfect when you have a baby.
Even better is to invite everyone to
your house for New Year's. Then you can just put the baby to bed on time and let everyone
else deal with
their cranky kids the next day. :nod:
The closest I've gotten to this is flights taking shorter/longer than they should have due to my origin/destination not observing DST or not observing it on the same schedule as the US.
Quote from: kphoger on December 31, 2018, 03:57:56 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on December 31, 2018, 03:55:53 PM
Tonight we are going to a local bar and grill that is doing a toast at midnight London time - 6 pm local time. Which is perfect when you have a baby.
Even better is to invite everyone to your house for New Year's. Then you can just put the baby to bed on time and let everyone else deal with their cranky kids the next day. :nod:
Another pro: Not having to find your way home at the end of the night.
One major con: You have to host a party. And clean up.
Plenty of places along the Indiana-Illinois border to do this. Of course you do have to be in the middle of nowhere. There's some county boundaries in Indiana where you can pull this off as well. I've actually thought about it before but I rather stay in New Year's Eve.
The past 18 New Year's, I've been deep in EST - hours from both AST and CST.
This year, for the first time, I'm in CST, but still deep in the heart: Lakeville, MN (southern MSP suburbs) is 7 hours from EST and 7 hours from MST.
Quote from: tdindy88 on December 31, 2018, 04:39:35 PM
Plenty of places along the Indiana-Illinois border to do this. Of course you do have to be in the middle of nowhere.
Yep, somewhere on one of the state line roads would be my first target if I ever tried doing this.
If you were sufficiently determined, you could celebrate New Year's on the international border between Yukon Territory (Pacific time zone) and Alaska (Alaska time zone). There are a few places within wide "no man's land" zones between border stations where you are unlikely to be hassled by customs agents. Indeed, one on the Alaska Highway has a bench where you can sit with one butt cheek in Pacific time and the other in Alaska time (http://www.alaskaroads.com/AK-YT-border-bench-large.jpg).
Of course, these spots are not only in the middle of nowhere, but tonight you'd be freezing your ass off (midnight wind chill just below 0F) (https://weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/l/CAXX0685:1:CA).
I gave up on public New Years' celebrations years ago (sometimes friends would invite me to a house party, but that hasn't happened lately). Past my bedtime, and I hate crowds.
The post above this one is the first one in 2019 in my time zone (UTC+1) :sombrero:
I've read somewhere else that someone traveled to Samoa, entered the new year, then flew to American Samoa and once again celebrated the new year, 24 hours after the first one.
For Y2K (ie partying like it is not 1999), Concorde did a 4-stop thing, Paris, Newfoundland, Vancouver and Hawaii (each some distance apart, allowing people to spend a little while at each location before setting off and overtaking midnight again). Japan and Russia were possibilities to make it 6 stops.
IIRC, another Concorde flew for a period "at the speed of midnight*", so the people on it could make midnight itself (solar time, not clock time, obviously) last half an hour or something.
*Like the River of Fire (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/587071.stm), which was London's first serious attempt at a big public NYE firework display (though at least there was something trying to unite, unlike this year's celebration of the 1 million EU (non-UK) citizens resident in the city - done as a slight to the 1.5 million Londoners (and the 16 million others elsewhere in the UK) who voted Leave (more than voted for Sadiq, even with second preferences). Not to forget that it ignores the 2.2 million London residents born in non-EU countries, of which about 60% have sought and obtained UK citizenship, as if they can't also be used to show that #LondonIsOpen to foreign migrants), only the disappointment of the meh nature of the Concorde thing is made up by your being on Concorde and so it doesn't matter what the time is anyway!
If there were any flights from Tokyo to Hawaii departing early morning 1/1, that would be a good bet for double celebration with some time to relax between the two. Unfortunately looks like such flights are not available
Quote from: english si on December 31, 2018, 07:53:31 PM1.5 million Londoners who voted Leave
I knew London had a lot of cabdrivers, but 1.5 million seems high.
When I was stationed in Korea I flew there from the continental US and back, crossing the international date line each time twelve months apart. So in my own time line, one year will forever have an extra day and one year will be forever a day short.
Quote from: Buck87 on December 31, 2018, 05:38:06 PM
Quote from: tdindy88 on December 31, 2018, 04:39:35 PM
Plenty of places along the Indiana-Illinois border to do this. Of course you do have to be in the middle of nowhere.
Yep, somewhere on one of the state line roads would be my first target if I ever tried doing this.
Quote from: oscar on December 31, 2018, 06:00:27 PM
If you were sufficiently determined, you could celebrate New Year's on the international border between Yukon Territory (Pacific time zone) and Alaska (Alaska time zone). There are a few places within wide "no man's land" zones between border stations where you are unlikely to be hassled by customs agents. Indeed, one on the Alaska Highway has a bench where you can sit with one butt cheek in Pacific time and the other in Alaska time (http://www.alaskaroads.com/AK-YT-border-bench-large.jpg).
Of course, these spots are not only in the middle of nowhere,
See, I think it's not really a worthwhile discussion unless one could reasonably expect to ring in the new year in a populated place, then have enough time to go to a different location and ring in the new year in a different populated place. In the ditch of some random county road or in between frontier immigration checkpoints–what's the point?
I could do this because I live about an hour or so from being in Central Time. In fact, I could time it to where I hit Exit 1 on I-94 and go down M-239. I believe there is a side street where I could park for a minute.
I am trying to think of places I've walked between two time zones, and in addition to Alaska-Yukon borders, two places that come to mind that could work for someone looking to do this are the gas station/shop/casino on the Utah/Nevada border on US 6/50, and the Hoover Dam. I don't know if pedestrians are allowed on the dam late at night, though. Each of my visits there were when US 93 traffic still crossed along the top of the dam.
Quote from: kphoger on January 01, 2019, 03:36:23 PM
See, I think it's not really a worthwhile discussion unless one could reasonably expect to ring in the new year in a populated place, then have enough time to go to a different location and ring in the new year in a different populated place. In the ditch of some random county road or in between frontier immigration checkpoints–what's the point?
Spain-Portugal border may be a good bet. Badajoz looks like a good starting point.
Crossing date line is another option. Arriving to Hawaii or American Samoa from the other side of date line.
The only flight I found so far is UA200 from Guam to Honolulu, Departing 7.40 AM, arriving 6.40PM the day before.
Samoa to American Samoa can be a surface option.
UPD: Air China Beijing to Honolulu is another flight, although departure at 1.30 AM doesn't give any time to celebrate
Quote from: kalvado on January 01, 2019, 04:45:17 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 01, 2019, 03:36:23 PM
See, I think it's not really a worthwhile discussion unless one could reasonably expect to ring in the new year in a populated place, then have enough time to go to a different location and ring in the new year in a different populated place. In the ditch of some random county road or in between frontier immigration checkpoints–what's the point?
Spain-Portugal border may be a good bet. Badajoz looks like a good starting point.
Crossing date line is another option. Arriving to Hawaii or American Samoa from the other side of date line.
The only flight I found so far is UA200 from Guam to Honolulu, Departing 7.40 AM, arriving 6.40PM the day before.
Samoa to American Samoa can be a surface option.
I think you could also celebrate New Year's in Calais and Dover, assuming there are ferries running at that hour. Or there may be a shorter crossing from France to one of the UK Channel Islands (assuming they observe UK time).
And then there's Phenix City, Alabama, located across the river from Columbus, GA. Phenix City is officially in Central Time, but as a practical matter it observes Eastern Time.
Calais, Maine and St. Stephen, New Brunswick used to have a combined celebration. It would begin at midnight Atlantic Time.....then you'd cross the border to continue an hour later in Calais at midnight Eastern Time. Just not as easy crossing the border now.
Mexico, Florida is one town in Gulf County, FL that is actually in both central and eastern. Do not know if they celebrated as that was one place that got badly damaged in that last big storm that hit as it did destroy a lot as seen by the photos.
Quote from: oscar on December 31, 2018, 06:00:27 PM
If you were sufficiently determined, you could celebrate New Year's on the international border between Yukon Territory (Pacific time zone) and Alaska (Alaska time zone). There are a few places within wide "no man's land" zones between border stations where you are unlikely to be hassled by customs agents. Indeed, one on the Alaska Highway has a bench where you can sit with one butt cheek in Pacific time and the other in Alaska time (http://www.alaskaroads.com/AK-YT-border-bench-large.jpg)
I was taught never to do anything half-assed. Doing two things half-assed at the same time would be shameful.
Quote from: tdindy88 on December 31, 2018, 04:39:35 PM
Plenty of places along the Indiana-Illinois border to do this. Of course you do have to be in the middle of nowhere. There's some county boundaries in Indiana where you can pull this off as well. I've actually thought about it before but I rather stay in New Year's Eve.
The easiest way to pull this off would be to live in LaPorte County, go to a bar in New Buffalo, Michigan, and then shortly after midnight, head home (with a designated driver or Uber) and hit midnight again at home.
You know, if you wanted to allow for more recovery time between portions of your NYE celebrations, there's always the Samoa » American Samoa option.
At New Year's, Samoa observes UTC+14
American Samoa observes UTC-11
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on December 31, 2018, 06:23:36 PM
I've read somewhere else that someone traveled to Samoa, entered the new year, then flew to American Samoa and once again celebrated the new year, 24 hours after the first one.
Quote from: kalvado on January 01, 2019, 04:45:17 PM
Samoa to American Samoa can be a surface option.
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on January 09, 2019, 09:42:06 AM
You know, if you wanted to allow for more recovery time between portions of your NYE celebrations, there's always the Samoa » American Samoa option.
At New Year's, Samoa observes UTC+14
American Samoa observes UTC-11
And let's not forget Samoa. You could always travel from there to American Samoa.
Sa-what-a?
Quote from: wxfree on January 09, 2019, 04:07:16 AM
Quote from: oscar on December 31, 2018, 06:00:27 PM
If you were sufficiently determined, you could celebrate New Year's on the international border between Yukon Territory (Pacific time zone) and Alaska (Alaska time zone). There are a few places within wide "no man's land" zones between border stations where you are unlikely to be hassled by customs agents. Indeed, one on the Alaska Highway has a bench where you can sit with one butt cheek in Pacific time and the other in Alaska time (http://www.alaskaroads.com/AK-YT-border-bench-large.jpg)
I was taught never to do anything half-assed. Doing two things half-assed at the same time would be shameful.
:clap: :-D :rofl:
That was my laugh of the day.
Quote from: MikeTheActuary on January 09, 2019, 09:42:06 AM
You know, if you wanted to allow for more recovery time between portions of your NYE celebrations, there's always the Samoa » American Samoa option.
At New Year's, Samoa observes UTC+14
American Samoa observes UTC-11
You could use it as a time portal, to travel from 2018 to 2019 multiple times for hours.
If you time the trip from (Western) Samoa to American Samoa correctly you can go back two days in time :bigass:. But that requires doing so in the middle of the night.
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 10, 2019, 08:31:49 AM
If you time the trip from (Western) Samoa to American Samoa correctly you can go back two days in time :bigass:. But that requires doing so in the middle of the night.
I wonder if CBP would be there in the middle of the night...
Quote from: wxfree on January 09, 2019, 04:07:16 AM
Quote from: oscar on December 31, 2018, 06:00:27 PM
If you were sufficiently determined, you could celebrate New Year's on the international border between Yukon Territory (Pacific time zone) and Alaska (Alaska time zone). There are a few places within wide "no man's land" zones between border stations where you are unlikely to be hassled by customs agents. Indeed, one on the Alaska Highway has a bench where you can sit with one butt cheek in Pacific time and the other in Alaska time (http://www.alaskaroads.com/AK-YT-border-bench-large.jpg)
I was taught never to do anything half-assed. Doing two things half-assed at the same time would be shameful.
My uncle owned a boat called "Half Fast". Still got a lot of folks wondering WTF that meant, so he just told them to "say it fast a few times!" The response after doing so was generally "..............ooooooohhhhhh, right! Real cute!" :biggrin:
Quote from: wxfree on January 09, 2019, 04:07:16 AM
I was taught never to do anything half-assed. Doing two things half-assed at the same time would be shameful.
"Never half-ass two things. Whole-ass one thing." —Ron Swanson
OK, there's not much to do in rural west Texas. It used to be a thing, that on New Year's Eve everyone drank a few beers in the bed of the pickup truck, then drove down the road to Hudspeth County and did it again.
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on January 11, 2019, 03:28:46 AM
Quote from: wxfree on January 09, 2019, 04:07:16 AM
I was taught never to do anything half-assed. Doing two things half-assed at the same time would be shameful.
"Never half-ass two things. Whole-ass one thing." —Ron Swanson
I have some pretty vast ideas, and I don't want to do anything half-vast.