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Title: GNYT5c - Post Mortem - December 25 - 30 2021
Post by: snowc on November 07, 2021, 06:17:30 PM
Well, I did finally manage to visit NY during the holidays, so here is the full breakdown, in pictures!  :colorful:
(https://i.imgur.com/pAsaqT6.jpeg)
My family's vehicle, under a heavy load right now.  :-D
(https://i.imgur.com/1ILISnU.jpeg)
The trip's official teddy bear, Chris!  :colorful:
(https://i.imgur.com/AtJ0WpS.jpeg)
Now we are heading on I95 for the big drive! Notice the construction?
(https://i.imgur.com/IfBkSYU.jpeg)
The purple car next to us looks cool right?  :colorful:
(https://i.imgur.com/iwWdb9k.jpeg)
The new and improved President Biden Expressway! @Scott5114 is this considered political to include a president's name on a sign?
(https://i.imgur.com/EVxjAEy.jpeg)
My hotel's beds are nice, and snoozy too. One of my family members are on the far right.  :colorful:
(https://i.imgur.com/80e6DQb.jpeg)
The vehicle taking a nap, in the snow.
(https://i.imgur.com/OGUVJA8.jpeg)
And here I am taking a pic in my Bills gear!  :colorful:

End of photos, for now, heres the details
We left the house at 7:30a - 30 minutes behind schedule
We arrived in VA around 10am
We then passed by Richmond around 11am
Arrived at the first hotel around 2pm
Here is the fun part, and be ready to :colorful: yourselves!
We couldn't even find anything to eat, as everything was CLOSED for Christmas!
So we went to Sheetz and almost couldnt find my order.  :colorful:
Waffle house was busy and Subway was CLOSED!
Went to sleep around 8pm
Woke up at 6am and got breakfast whilst packing up for the second part.
Left at 7am, stopping for some donuts.
Arrived in PA around 7:30am
Arrived in NY around 12:00pm
I had to race to the hotel room to watch the game!  :colorful:
Eventually I got to the hotel at 12:50pm, 10 minutes before kickoff!
I had a late lunch at Applebee's and Popeyes (I had this, and NO, I did NOT have the chicken sandwich)
I went to bed around 8pm
I got up around 6am and headed to Dennys!
The lady was genuinely nice and had a good breakfast.
Arrived at Hahn Welding Supply to look at a plaque for my grandfather
I went to the duck pond and had some fun there!  :pan:
Then we went to the cemetery
And then went to Green Hills to get some donuts.
Stopped at Jreck Subs and got some subs, while a police officer was right behind me.  :colorful:
Headed back to the hotel, relaxed for a bit.
Ordered room service, had a good wrap with buffalo sauce in it.
Watched the Syracuse game and they beat Brown!
I went to bed around 8pm, woke up to some chills (thanks Mountain Dew  :colorful:)
Had to move up our departure date from the 31st to the 30th due to snow
I woke up at 6am and had breakfast at the hotel before we went to Watertown
I took a tour around town, even going to WWNY!  :colorful:
Headed back to the hotel and got some grub at Tully's (sorry Rothman, I didn't get to watch television)
Mostly relaxed all afternoon, then had Distillery for dinner (chicken sandwich is pretty good, right?)
Packed up for the ride home, and went to bed around 8pm
Woke up around 5am
Got some breakfast at the hotel before departing.
Departed hotel around 7am after getting lottery tickets (and won too!)
Arrived in PA around 9am
Had to detour around Harrisburg and got to Maryland via US 15
Went through Catoctin Mountain and arrived at I70 around 12pm
I arrived at the hotel around 12:30pm and got grub at KFC.
Had a very horrible experience at Laddie's, it was gross.  :colorful:
I went to bed around 7pm
Woke up at 6am and got breakfast
Arrived in VA around 7am
I arrived home at 2pm, after delaying traffic on 95.
End details.
Title: Re: Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: US 89 on November 07, 2021, 06:24:25 PM
Quote from: snowc on November 07, 2021, 06:17:30 PM
1. Will there be any snow on the following routes: I-81, I-70, I-99, I-80, I-95 (from Exit 73 in NC to Exit 133A in VA), I-295, US 30 (from Breezewood to I-99 Start) or any of the routes in Syracuse?

Ask again in two weeks. With current weather model technology it is simply impossible to forecast that far out with any degree of accuracy.
Title: Re: Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: Rothman on November 07, 2021, 06:43:17 PM
Syracuse had a dusting of snow the other night.
Title: Re: Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: hotdogPi on November 07, 2021, 08:05:02 PM
Quote from: snowc on November 07, 2021, 07:58:34 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 07, 2021, 06:43:17 PM
Syracuse had a dusting of snow the other night.
Oh really?!  :wow:

Syracuse is 18 hours ahead of my location for weather patterns, and I didn't get anything at all.
Title: Re: Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: hbelkins on November 07, 2021, 08:08:45 PM
Hard to tell about snow. I traveled to Breezewood over Thanksgiving weekend a few years ago, and there was snow on the ground (and some on the roads) in Maryland and Pennsylvania.

As for restaurants being open for Thanksgiving, once you get into Sheetz territory, they'll be open. My first experience with Sheetz was in Maryland on Christmas Day back in either 1990 or '91 (can't remember for sure now) and most every other place was closed, but Sheetz was open. They didn't have the menu they do now, but I got a meatball sub.
Title: Re: Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: Rothman on November 07, 2021, 08:41:20 PM
Quote from: 1 on November 07, 2021, 08:05:02 PM
Quote from: snowc on November 07, 2021, 07:58:34 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 07, 2021, 06:43:17 PM
Syracuse had a dusting of snow the other night.
Oh really?!  :wow:

Syracuse is 18 hours ahead of my location for weather patterns, and I didn't get anything at all.
Two words: Lake effect...
Title: Re: Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: froggie on November 08, 2021, 11:48:45 AM
Snow in Upstate New York is a very definite possibility by Thanksgiving.

To "1":  New England east of the Connecticut River does not get lake effect snow.  Even west of the river, it takes just the right combination of temps and wind direction for Vermont to get lake effect off Champlain or a very long snow band from Lake Ontario.  Where you are is also much closer to the Atlantic Ocean, which has a moderating influence on temperatures.
Title: Re: [CANCELLED] Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: snowc on November 09, 2021, 10:52:58 AM
I have decided to cancel my trip to NY given that snow is going to snarl traffic on Thanksgiving and my father taking back the position for NSCSD.
We are gonna stay home, given that the Delta+ variant is going to be prominent on that week.
Sorry! :no:
@Alps @SSOWorld @Scott5114 can you please lock this thread so no more discussion can be involved? I am not rescheduling this.

I have FINALLY decided to go to NY around the holidays! See Original Post for details.
Title: Re: [CANCELLED] Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: JayhawkCO on November 09, 2021, 10:56:48 AM
Quote from: snowc on November 09, 2021, 10:52:58 AM
I have decided to cancel my trip to NY given that snow is going to snarl traffic on Thanksgiving and my father taking back the position for NSCSD.
We are gonna stay home, given that the Delta+ variant is going to be prominent on that week.
Sorry! :no:
@Alps @SSOWorld @Scott5114 can you please lock this thread so no more discussion can be involved? I am not rescheduling this.

You're quite the scientist if you can predict that out so precisely several weeks out.

Chris
Title: Re: [CANCELLED] Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: US 89 on November 09, 2021, 11:07:21 AM
Quote from: snowc on November 07, 2021, 06:17:30 PM
We are NOT going to NY this thanksgiving, thanks to @Rothman and @hbelkins for the snow possible in Thanksgiving
Quote from: snowc on November 09, 2021, 10:52:58 AM
given that snow is going to snarl traffic on Thanksgiving

Misinterpretation of the year right here.

Just because it can snow on Thanksgiving doesn't mean it will...
Title: Re: [CANCELLED] Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: corco on November 09, 2021, 11:39:27 AM
HB and Rothman directly control the weather
Title: Re: [CANCELLED] Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: vdeane on November 09, 2021, 01:00:35 PM
Quote from: US 89 on November 09, 2021, 11:07:21 AM
Quote from: snowc on November 07, 2021, 06:17:30 PM
We are NOT going to NY this thanksgiving, thanks to @Rothman and @hbelkins for the snow possible in Thanksgiving
Quote from: snowc on November 09, 2021, 10:52:58 AM
given that snow is going to snarl traffic on Thanksgiving

Misinterpretation of the year right here.

Just because it can snow on Thanksgiving doesn't mean it will...
And even then, that doesn't mean that it will snarl traffic.  I can only think of a couple of times when I've had travel difficulties around Thanksgiving; once when my parents and I had to drive through significant snow between two family gatherings, and two years ago when that major sleet storm hit the Sunday after and merged with a nor'easter when it got near Albany (although it was still significant before it merged with the nor'easter, that's when it went from "just drive slowly and cautiously" to "oh my god will I even get home I feel like I'm going to die or get stuck or both").
Title: Re: [CANCELLED] Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: SkyPesos on November 09, 2021, 01:11:42 PM
Quote from: snowc on November 09, 2021, 10:52:58 AM
given that snow is going to snarl traffic
First of all, we don't even know if it's going to snow or not that far out. And it depends on how much snow there are; there's a big difference between an inch of snow and a foot of snow when it comes to driving in them.
Title: Re: [CANCELLED] Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: US 89 on November 09, 2021, 01:34:50 PM
Oddly enough, some of the biggest/most impactful winter storms I can remember in Utah have been centered around Thanksgiving.

I remember many years back we had a blizzard the Tuesday afternoon of Thanksgiving week. Blizzards are very rare in Utah because our winter storms don't usually meet the wind criteria, so the minute meteorologists started using the B word, the public reaction was akin to something you might see when snow is forecasted in the south. There were runs on gas stations the day before, grocery stores started running out of some staples, and I got out of school 30 minutes early so that I could for sure be home and off the roads before it hit - which is not something one typically sees in northern Utah even for major winter storms. Then there was the time it snowed almost a foot at my house on Thanksgiving Day and 8 inches more the next day.

Then again, we've also had Thanksgivings where it was sunny and warm enough to throw a frisbee at the park in jeans and a t-shirt. Weather is weird.
Title: Re: [CANCELLED] Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: thspfc on November 09, 2021, 02:24:26 PM
You're cancelling a large road trip over the possible threat of a little bit of snow, and a hunch that a fading pandemic is going to resurge?

You do you I guess.
Title: Re: [CANCELLED] Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: hotdogPi on November 09, 2021, 02:29:43 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 09, 2021, 02:24:26 PM
You're cancelling a large road trip over the possible threat of a little bit of snow, and a hunch that a fading pandemic is going to resurge?

You do you I guess.

The pandemic stopped fading about a week ago; it's now at about a constant level nationwide, and it's increasing big time in my area. (This isn't to say Syracuse matches where I live, though – other parts of Massachusetts aren't increasing as quickly as where I live, so it appears to be a local issue.)

But yes, the snow issue is ridiculous.
Title: Re: [CANCELLED] Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: hbelkins on November 09, 2021, 02:41:10 PM
Quote from: corco on November 09, 2021, 11:39:27 AM
HB and Rothman directly control the weather

Well, I guess I need to put in my order for no snow in West Virginia, southwestern Virginia, northeastern Tennessee, and possibly northwestern North Carolina for the first week of December, then.

Quote from: 1 on November 09, 2021, 02:29:43 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 09, 2021, 02:24:26 PM
You're cancelling a large road trip over the possible threat of a little bit of snow, and a hunch that a fading pandemic is going to resurge?

You do you I guess.

The pandemic stopped fading about a week ago; it's now at about a constant level nationwide, and it's increasing big time in my area. (This isn't to say Syracuse matches where I live, though – other parts of Massachusetts aren't increasing as quickly as where I live, so it appears to be a local issue.)

But yes, the snow issue is ridiculous.

Even if there is an uptick in virus cases, and I don't know where this Delta + thing came from, as the last I heard the next variant is going to have another Greek letter name, a modicum of precautions can prevent it being a threat. I certainly haven't canceled any plans the past 18 months because of the virus. In fact, I went on a multi-state trip with my brother back in August when the resurgence was raging, with no ill effects.

I've called off trips before due to weather forecasts, but those have been decisions made much closer to the time of departure and with looking at the forecasts.

My brother has a hiking trip scheduled to the Grand Canyon in February, so there's a decent chance he'll run into snow somewhere along I-64, I-44, or I-40. He probably won't call the trip off unless he sees a big storm in the forecast a couple of days out from his departure.
Title: Re: [CANCELLED] Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: Scott5114 on November 09, 2021, 02:42:00 PM
I think I'm probably more likely to have winter weather negatively impact my plans to go to Kansas City than you are in New York. Not that Kansas is too bad with the snow (KTA does a stellar job from the few times I've had to deal with it up there, and Kansans know how to drive in it), but because at our latitude we're more likely to get ice and sleet than New York is. And of course once you get south of Braman all hell breaks loose.

Not locking the thread because it's possible other users may wish to discuss the likelihood of winter weather on their Thanksgiving trips.
Title: Re: [CANCELLED] Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: snowc on November 09, 2021, 03:30:26 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 09, 2021, 02:42:00 PM
I think I'm probably more likely to have winter weather negatively impact my plans to go to Kansas City than you are in New York. Not that Kansas is too bad with the snow (KTA does a stellar job from the few times I've had to deal with it up there, and Kansans know how to drive in it), but because at our latitude we're more likely to get ice and sleet than New York is. And of course once you get south of Braman all hell breaks loose.

Not locking the thread because it's possible other users may wish to discuss the likelihood of winter weather on their Thanksgiving trips.
Ok.
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: snowc on November 09, 2021, 03:33:52 PM
As the thread title says, we are taking this thread in a different direction.
Instead of GNYT5c, we are turning it into a Winter weather thread!  :sombrero:
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: Rothman on November 09, 2021, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: corco on November 09, 2021, 11:39:27 AM
HB and Rothman directly control the weather
I will bring down the wrath of God on Thanksgiving.  The snow will blanket the Northeast as it never has before.  Plow trucks will be useless.  Terror will seize upon the land.  The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, "SAVE US!"

...and I'll look down and whisper, "No."
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: snowc on November 09, 2021, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 09, 2021, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: corco on November 09, 2021, 11:39:27 AM
HB and Rothman directly control the weather
I will bring down the wrath of God on Thanksgiving.  The snow will blanket the Northeast as it never has before.  Plow trucks will be useless.  Terror will seize upon the land.  The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, "SAVE US!"

...and I'll look down and whisper, "No."
Lol Rothman  :colorful: :colorful: :-D :-D
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: Scott5114 on November 09, 2021, 04:17:11 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 09, 2021, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: corco on November 09, 2021, 11:39:27 AM
HB and Rothman directly control the weather
I will bring down the wrath of God on Thanksgiving.  The snow will blanket the Northeast as it never has before.  Plow trucks will be useless.  Terror will seize upon the land.  The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, "SAVE US!"

...and I'll look down and whisper, "No." "Only when the lowest-numbered route you haven't been on changes."

FTFY
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: Rothman on November 09, 2021, 04:28:38 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 09, 2021, 04:17:11 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 09, 2021, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: corco on November 09, 2021, 11:39:27 AM
HB and Rothman directly control the weather
I will bring down the wrath of God on Thanksgiving.  The snow will blanket the Northeast as it never has before.  Plow trucks will be useless.  Terror will seize upon the land.  The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, "SAVE US!"

...and I'll look down and whisper, "No." "Only when the lowest-numbered route you haven't been on changes."

FTFY

As the self-proclaimed "Nit picker of unprecedented pedantry," you could take a few pointers from me.
Title: Re: [CANCELLED] Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: thspfc on November 09, 2021, 05:24:58 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 09, 2021, 02:41:10 PM
Quote from: corco on November 09, 2021, 11:39:27 AM
HB and Rothman directly control the weather

Well, I guess I need to put in my order for no snow in West Virginia, southwestern Virginia, northeastern Tennessee, and possibly northwestern North Carolina for the first week of December, then.

Quote from: 1 on November 09, 2021, 02:29:43 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 09, 2021, 02:24:26 PM
You're cancelling a large road trip over the possible threat of a little bit of snow, and a hunch that a fading pandemic is going to resurge?

You do you I guess.

The pandemic stopped fading about a week ago; it's now at about a constant level nationwide, and it's increasing big time in my area. (This isn't to say Syracuse matches where I live, though – other parts of Massachusetts aren't increasing as quickly as where I live, so it appears to be a local issue.)

But yes, the snow issue is ridiculous.

Even if there is an uptick in virus cases, and I don't know where this Delta + thing came from, as the last I heard the next variant is going to have another Greek letter name, a modicum of precautions can prevent it being a threat. I certainly haven't canceled any plans the past 18 months because of the virus. In fact, I went on a multi-state trip with my brother back in August when the resurgence was raging, with no ill effects.

I've called off trips before due to weather forecasts, but those have been decisions made much closer to the time of departure and with looking at the forecasts.

My brother has a hiking trip scheduled to the Grand Canyon in February, so there's a decent chance he'll run into snow somewhere along I-64, I-44, or I-40. He probably won't call the trip off unless he sees a big storm in the forecast a couple of days out from his departure.
I really haven't thought about Covid at all in the last several months. When Dane County's first mask mandate ended back in early June and I no longer had to wear a mask at work, that pretty much signaled the end of the pandemic to me. The mask mandate was reimplemented in early August, but at that point Covid was so dead to me (yes, I am vaccinated) that wearing a mask just became something that I did because I was supposed to.

I took two significant trips during the pandemic: skiing in Michigan in December 2020 (after which I briefly had Covid) and then skiing in Aspen in February 2021.
Title: Re: [CANCELLED] Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: JayhawkCO on November 09, 2021, 05:38:44 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 09, 2021, 05:24:58 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 09, 2021, 02:41:10 PM
Quote from: corco on November 09, 2021, 11:39:27 AM
HB and Rothman directly control the weather

Well, I guess I need to put in my order for no snow in West Virginia, southwestern Virginia, northeastern Tennessee, and possibly northwestern North Carolina for the first week of December, then.

Quote from: 1 on November 09, 2021, 02:29:43 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 09, 2021, 02:24:26 PM
You're cancelling a large road trip over the possible threat of a little bit of snow, and a hunch that a fading pandemic is going to resurge?

You do you I guess.

The pandemic stopped fading about a week ago; it's now at about a constant level nationwide, and it's increasing big time in my area. (This isn't to say Syracuse matches where I live, though – other parts of Massachusetts aren't increasing as quickly as where I live, so it appears to be a local issue.)

But yes, the snow issue is ridiculous.

Even if there is an uptick in virus cases, and I don't know where this Delta + thing came from, as the last I heard the next variant is going to have another Greek letter name, a modicum of precautions can prevent it being a threat. I certainly haven't canceled any plans the past 18 months because of the virus. In fact, I went on a multi-state trip with my brother back in August when the resurgence was raging, with no ill effects.

I've called off trips before due to weather forecasts, but those have been decisions made much closer to the time of departure and with looking at the forecasts.

My brother has a hiking trip scheduled to the Grand Canyon in February, so there's a decent chance he'll run into snow somewhere along I-64, I-44, or I-40. He probably won't call the trip off unless he sees a big storm in the forecast a couple of days out from his departure.
I really haven't thought about Covid at all in the last several months. When Dane County's first mask mandate ended back in early June and I no longer had to wear a mask at work, that pretty much signaled the end of the pandemic to me. The mask mandate was reimplemented in early August, but at that point Covid was so dead to me (yes, I am vaccinated) that wearing a mask just became something that I did because I was supposed to.

I took two significant trips during the pandemic: skiing in Michigan in December 2020 (after which I briefly had Covid) and then skiing in Aspen in February 2021.

I'm vaxxed and boosted.  I work from home and all my friends and family are vaccinated.  I only wear a mask at this point when I go to the grocery store or some other place with a whole bunch of different kinds of folks all together.  But, I have a kid on the way in January, so I might have to revisit since he won't be able to get vaccinated anytime soon.

Chris
Title: Re: [CANCELLED] Great New York Trip 5C!
Post by: snowc on November 09, 2021, 06:13:53 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on November 09, 2021, 05:38:44 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 09, 2021, 05:24:58 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 09, 2021, 02:41:10 PM
Quote from: corco on November 09, 2021, 11:39:27 AM
HB and Rothman directly control the weather

Well, I guess I need to put in my order for no snow in West Virginia, southwestern Virginia, northeastern Tennessee, and possibly northwestern North Carolina for the first week of December, then.

Quote from: 1 on November 09, 2021, 02:29:43 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 09, 2021, 02:24:26 PM
You're cancelling a large road trip over the possible threat of a little bit of snow, and a hunch that a fading pandemic is going to resurge?

You do you I guess.

The pandemic stopped fading about a week ago; it's now at about a constant level nationwide, and it's increasing big time in my area. (This isn't to say Syracuse matches where I live, though – other parts of Massachusetts aren't increasing as quickly as where I live, so it appears to be a local issue.)

But yes, the snow issue is ridiculous.

Even if there is an uptick in virus cases, and I don't know where this Delta + thing came from, as the last I heard the next variant is going to have another Greek letter name, a modicum of precautions can prevent it being a threat. I certainly haven't canceled any plans the past 18 months because of the virus. In fact, I went on a multi-state trip with my brother back in August when the resurgence was raging, with no ill effects.

I've called off trips before due to weather forecasts, but those have been decisions made much closer to the time of departure and with looking at the forecasts.

My brother has a hiking trip scheduled to the Grand Canyon in February, so there's a decent chance he'll run into snow somewhere along I-64, I-44, or I-40. He probably won't call the trip off unless he sees a big storm in the forecast a couple of days out from his departure.
I really haven't thought about Covid at all in the last several months. When Dane County's first mask mandate ended back in early June and I no longer had to wear a mask at work, that pretty much signaled the end of the pandemic to me. The mask mandate was reimplemented in early August, but at that point Covid was so dead to me (yes, I am vaccinated) that wearing a mask just became something that I did because I was supposed to.

I took two significant trips during the pandemic: skiing in Michigan in December 2020 (after which I briefly had Covid) and then skiing in Aspen in February 2021.

I'm vaxxed and boosted.  I work from home and all my friends and family are vaccinated.  I only wear a mask at this point when I go to the grocery store or some other place with a whole bunch of different kinds of folks all together.  But, I have a kid on the way in January, so I might have to revisit since he won't be able to get vaccinated anytime soon.

Chris
Im boosted starting this weekend at Either Walgreens or Thomas' Drug. Then on to Longhorn!  :clap:
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: Rothman on November 09, 2021, 06:39:32 PM
All these eligible people for the boost and I am somehow still ineligible...
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: vdeane on November 09, 2021, 08:32:42 PM
Quote from: 1 on November 09, 2021, 02:29:43 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 09, 2021, 02:24:26 PM
You're cancelling a large road trip over the possible threat of a little bit of snow, and a hunch that a fading pandemic is going to resurge?

You do you I guess.

The pandemic stopped fading about a week ago; it's now at about a constant level nationwide, and it's increasing big time in my area. (This isn't to say Syracuse matches where I live, though – other parts of Massachusetts aren't increasing as quickly as where I live, so it appears to be a local issue.)

But yes, the snow issue is ridiculous.
Meanwhile in upstate NY, it was never fading in the first place.  It's kinda weird.  Downstate followed the same pattern as the rest of the country but with lower numbers, and anywhere north or west of the Capital District has been continuously surging up since early August, with no signs of stopping (if anything, it's accelerating).  The Capital District itself is in this weird in-between area; we've mostly been following the trend of upstate (though we might have had an actual dip or two that wasn't just reporting irregularities) but with lower numbers.
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: froggie on November 10, 2021, 10:26:53 AM
Quote from: Rothman on November 09, 2021, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: corco on November 09, 2021, 11:39:27 AM
HB and Rothman directly control the weather
I will bring down the wrath of God on Thanksgiving.  The snow will blanket the Northeast as it never has before.  Plow trucks will be useless.  Terror will seize upon the land.  The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, "SAVE US!"

...and I'll look down and whisper, "No."

Meanwhile, Vermonters will just say "eh" and carry on with business as usual...
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: snowc on November 10, 2021, 10:58:13 AM
Quote from: froggie on November 10, 2021, 10:26:53 AM
Quote from: Rothman on November 09, 2021, 03:35:40 PM
Quote from: corco on November 09, 2021, 11:39:27 AM
HB and Rothman directly control the weather
I will bring down the wrath of God on Thanksgiving.  The snow will blanket the Northeast as it never has before.  Plow trucks will be useless.  Terror will seize upon the land.  The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout, "SAVE US!"

...and I'll look down and whisper, "No."

Meanwhile, Vermonters will just say "eh" and carry on with business as usual...
Whilst North Carolinians will be just  :rolleyes: saying  :no: to anything related to snow. But they get  :pan: on Christmas without warning!  :bigass:
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: snowc on November 10, 2021, 10:59:10 AM
Quote from: vdeane on November 09, 2021, 08:32:42 PM
Quote from: 1 on November 09, 2021, 02:29:43 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 09, 2021, 02:24:26 PM
You're cancelling a large road trip over the possible threat of a little bit of snow, and a hunch that a fading pandemic is going to resurge?

You do you I guess.

The pandemic stopped fading about a week ago; it's now at about a constant level nationwide, and it's increasing big time in my area. (This isn't to say Syracuse matches where I live, though – other parts of Massachusetts aren't increasing as quickly as where I live, so it appears to be a local issue.)

But yes, the snow issue is ridiculous.
Meanwhile in upstate NY, it was never fading in the first place.  It's kinda weird.  Downstate followed the same pattern as the rest of the country but with lower numbers, and anywhere north or west of the Capital District has been continuously surging up since early August, with no signs of stopping (if anything, it's accelerating).  The Capital District itself is in this weird in-between area; we've mostly been following the trend of upstate (though we might have had an actual dip or two that wasn't just reporting irregularities) but with lower numbers.
Delta+ doesnt seem to get it. We are vaxxed. No one needs another variant shutting down schools!  :paranoid:
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: JayhawkCO on November 10, 2021, 11:33:01 AM
Quote from: Rothman on November 09, 2021, 06:39:32 PM
All these eligible people for the boost and I am somehow still ineligible...

Colorado governor basically said he doesn't care about eligibility.  Just go get it.  I work part time bartending, so that qualifies me.

Chris
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: hbelkins on November 10, 2021, 01:58:53 PM
I suspect my brother's big travel issues, if any, will come in the Texas northern panhandle along I-40. My wife was in Dallas one February when they had some winter weather hit. They were totally unprepared to deal with it, and my understanding was they had to bring snow removal equipment in from that area to deal with the problems. There was a small layer of ice with a little snow on top of it. It would have been a nuisance here in Kentucky but it was a major issue in the DFW area.
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: Scott5114 on November 10, 2021, 02:01:05 PM
Quote from: snowc on November 10, 2021, 10:58:13 AM
But they get  :pan: on Christmas without warning!  :bigass:

What does this mean?
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: snowc on November 10, 2021, 02:47:26 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on November 10, 2021, 02:01:05 PM
Quote from: snowc on November 10, 2021, 10:58:13 AM
But they get  :pan: on Christmas without warning!  :bigass:

What does this mean?
The :pan: means slam
Slammed means large snowfall
Christmas 2020 had a lot of snow in our area.
:clap:
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: 1995hoo on November 10, 2021, 03:12:06 PM
Mildly amusing to see a user named "snowc" expressing concern about snow as a reason for calling off a planned trip!

(Not intended to make fun of him–just an amusing coincidence.)
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: thspfc on November 10, 2021, 03:30:00 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 10, 2021, 03:12:06 PM
Mildly amusing to see a user named "snowc" expressing concern about snow as a reason for calling off a planned trip!

(Not intended to make fun of him–just an amusing coincidence.)
I think when you refuse to drive because it might snow a little bit on a day when you may or may not be driving and the roads you may be driving may or may not be already plowed, you can be poked fun at.
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: snowc on November 10, 2021, 03:41:31 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 10, 2021, 03:30:00 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 10, 2021, 03:12:06 PM
Mildly amusing to see a user named "snowc" expressing concern about snow as a reason for calling off a planned trip!

(Not intended to make fun of him–just an amusing coincidence.)
I think when you refuse to drive because it might snow a little bit on a day when you may or may not be driving and the roads you may be driving may or may not be already plowed, you can be poked fun at.
LOL @thspfc, but i don't drive yet. I get my permit on Friday. Then I can start driving.  :spin:
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: 1995hoo on November 10, 2021, 04:09:22 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 10, 2021, 03:30:00 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 10, 2021, 03:12:06 PM
Mildly amusing to see a user named "snowc" expressing concern about snow as a reason for calling off a planned trip!

(Not intended to make fun of him–just an amusing coincidence.)
I think when you refuse to drive because it might snow a little bit on a day when you may or may not be driving and the roads you may be driving may or may not be already plowed, you can be poked fun at.

Not going to disagree with that comment, but there's a particular reason why I chose not to make fun of him for it.
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: Bruce on November 12, 2021, 12:02:19 AM
I'm thinking of doing a solo trip or two over the mountains during snow season (for the first time), but definitely not during a peak holiday weekend.
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: hbelkins on November 12, 2021, 10:54:31 AM
Quote from: thspfc on November 10, 2021, 03:30:00 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 10, 2021, 03:12:06 PM
Mildly amusing to see a user named "snowc" expressing concern about snow as a reason for calling off a planned trip!

(Not intended to make fun of him–just an amusing coincidence.)
I think when you refuse to drive because it might snow a little bit on a day when you may or may not be driving and the roads you may be driving may or may not be already plowed, you can be poked fun at.

I wouldn't cancel a trip this far out just because it's winter, but I'd definitely keep an eye on the forecast and not go if snow was being predicted.

Nearly 20 years ago I had a work trip to DC planned. At the time I was driving a 4WD truck so I didn't really have any worries. I ran into snow along I-68 in Maryland (surprise) but had no issues. On the way back, I intended to drive I-66 to I-81 to I-64 for a change of pace, but it started snowing not long after I got out of the metro DC area (a stop at the Haymarket Sheetz for gas and breakfast). I know how truckers drive like idiots in the snow, so I bailed off I-81 at VA 55 and used what existed of Corridor H at the time. I was more comfortable climbing the Fore Knobs on WV 42 in a snowfall with decent accumulations than I was a skiff of snow on I-81 with trucks flying by without regard to weather conditions.

Now, I don't have a vehicle that is dependable in snow, so I would definitely not attempt a trip if snow was in the forecast.

And "may or may not be plowed" isn't really anything that can be counted on. I've seen it snow faster than the plows can keep it off.
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: JayhawkCO on November 12, 2021, 12:39:53 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 12, 2021, 12:02:19 AM
I'm thinking of doing a solo trip or two over the mountains during snow season (for the first time), but definitely not during a peak holiday weekend.

Aww, come out to Colorado where every weekend in ski season is a peak holiday weekend.  :sombrero:  It's super fun to drive in whiteout conditions along with everyone else over Loveland Pass because the Eisenhower Tunnel is closed because of accidents. #notreallyfun #doneittoomanytimes #touristsinsuvsaretheworst

Chris
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: 1995hoo on November 12, 2021, 02:43:42 PM
Speaking of winter weather and Colorado: Even though I'm unlikely to do it, how realistic would it be to drive from Virginia to Sacramento during the second week of February in a car equipped with all-season tires? Would I probably have to go south via I-40 and then head north to Sacramento in order to avoid problems in the mountains through Colorado or Wyoming?

(I may have to go out there for a month for work. The idea of driving out and not requesting reimbursement for the mileage, given that it would likely cost more than roundtrip airfare, has crossed my mind, but I doubt it's realistic even setting aside the issue noted above. I have a feeling the roundtrip drive would just consume too much time that I won't really have available. I'd love to do it, though.)
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: JayhawkCO on November 12, 2021, 04:30:12 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 12, 2021, 02:43:42 PM
Speaking of winter weather and Colorado: Even though I'm unlikely to do it, how realistic would it be to drive from Virginia to Sacramento during the second week of February in a car equipped with all-season tires? Would I probably have to go south via I-40 and then head north to Sacramento in order to avoid problems in the mountains through Colorado or Wyoming?

(I may have to go out there for a month for work. The idea of driving out and not requesting reimbursement for the mileage, given that it would likely cost more than roundtrip airfare, has crossed my mind, but I doubt it's realistic even setting aside the issue noted above. I have a feeling the roundtrip drive would just consume too much time that I won't really have available. I'd love to do it, though.)

Well, you're less likely to have issues in Colorado than Wyoming.  I-80, as I'm sure you know, gets closed constantly because of storms.  I-70 doesn't get closed nearly as often in Colorado, with the portion from Denver to Kansas being more likely than anything in the mountains.  Re: your tires, if they're not winter tires, you will be required by law to either carry chains or their equivalent (Autosock, cables, etc.) unless your car is AWD or 4WD. I don't find it that scary to drive in the mountains in snow, but obviously I drive in snow decently often and in the mountains more often than most.  The plowing in the mountains is early and often on the interstates as winter tourism is one of the life bloods of our economy.  If it's not snowing, the road will 100% be fine (although be careful coming down from the Eisenhower Tunnel into Silverthorne as, in my experience, that is the sketchiest portion of the whole drive with slush and meltwater).
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: 1995hoo on November 12, 2021, 05:59:37 PM
Did not know that about I-80. The only place out that way I've been during the winter was a football trip to Boise in 2004, and for that I flew into Boise and the roads therefore weren't an issue.

The AWD drive part makes me think of trying to get my wife to let me take her car, though I doubt that's an option either.
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: Bruce on November 12, 2021, 07:57:45 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on November 12, 2021, 12:39:53 PM
Quote from: Bruce on November 12, 2021, 12:02:19 AM
I'm thinking of doing a solo trip or two over the mountains during snow season (for the first time), but definitely not during a peak holiday weekend.

Aww, come out to Colorado where every weekend in ski season is a peak holiday weekend.  :sombrero:  It's super fun to drive in whiteout conditions along with everyone else over Loveland Pass because the Eisenhower Tunnel is closed because of accidents. #notreallyfun #doneittoomanytimes #touristsinsuvsaretheworst

Chris

Much of the same here, since two of the biggest ski areas are at the passes themselves (and the other passes near Seattle are closed for the entire winter). Sure to be in high demand now that they're able to fully reopen, on top of holiday thru travel.

Combined with the reduction in available staff for winter road maintenance, it's going to be a fun season.
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 02, 2021, 09:34:25 PM
Well unfortunately, my recent trip to NYC and back was made without new anti-freeze, and the same tires I had from 2 years ago.

Fortunately, nothing bad happened as a result. The tires are all-weather tires, but I don't think that has much to do with it.



Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: thspfc on December 04, 2021, 11:03:51 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 12, 2021, 02:43:42 PM
Speaking of winter weather and Colorado: Even though I'm unlikely to do it, how realistic would it be to drive from Virginia to Sacramento during the second week of February in a car equipped with all-season tires? Would I probably have to go south via I-40 and then head north to Sacramento in order to avoid problems in the mountains through Colorado or Wyoming?
Not unrealistic. Winter weather could delay you by a day at most. I-70 west of Denver is almost always plowed well.
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: jeffandnicole on December 05, 2021, 08:14:32 AM
Quote from: thspfc on December 04, 2021, 11:03:51 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 12, 2021, 02:43:42 PM
Speaking of winter weather and Colorado: Even though I'm unlikely to do it, how realistic would it be to drive from Virginia to Sacramento during the second week of February in a car equipped with all-season tires? Would I probably have to go south via I-40 and then head north to Sacramento in order to avoid problems in the mountains through Colorado or Wyoming?
Not unrealistic. Winter weather could delay you by a day at most. I-70 west of Denver is almost always plowed well.

Wouldn't it depend on the size of the storm(s)? It's not like they're all the same.
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: vdeane on December 05, 2021, 03:40:27 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 05, 2021, 08:14:32 AM
Quote from: thspfc on December 04, 2021, 11:03:51 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 12, 2021, 02:43:42 PM
Speaking of winter weather and Colorado: Even though I'm unlikely to do it, how realistic would it be to drive from Virginia to Sacramento during the second week of February in a car equipped with all-season tires? Would I probably have to go south via I-40 and then head north to Sacramento in order to avoid problems in the mountains through Colorado or Wyoming?
Not unrealistic. Winter weather could delay you by a day at most. I-70 west of Denver is almost always plowed well.

Wouldn't it depend on the size of the storm(s)? It's not like they're all the same.
I imagine that's why the phrase "almost always" was used.
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: jeffandnicole on December 05, 2021, 03:44:11 PM
Quote from: vdeane on December 05, 2021, 03:40:27 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 05, 2021, 08:14:32 AM
Quote from: thspfc on December 04, 2021, 11:03:51 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 12, 2021, 02:43:42 PM
Speaking of winter weather and Colorado: Even though I'm unlikely to do it, how realistic would it be to drive from Virginia to Sacramento during the second week of February in a car equipped with all-season tires? Would I probably have to go south via I-40 and then head north to Sacramento in order to avoid problems in the mountains through Colorado or Wyoming?
Not unrealistic. Winter weather could delay you by a day at most. I-70 west of Denver is almost always plowed well.

Wouldn't it depend on the size of the storm(s)? It's not like they're all the same.
I imagine that's why the phrase "almost always" was used.

I would hope so! But not even there. It's a big country; any storm can cause issues throughout the nation.
Title: Re: Winter Weather and Trips Thread! (Former GNYT5c Thread)
Post by: D-Dey65 on December 29, 2021, 11:54:51 PM
The only snow I encountered during my NYC trip was a brief dusting that melted later on in the day. So, unless it starts snowing in the Tampa Bay Area this winter, there's no chance of me driving through any snow this year or the next.

Does anyone remember when former President Obama scoffed at Washington D.C.'s criteria for declaring snow days?

He didn't seem to understand that kids couldn't take the L to school so easily in DC.



Title: Re: GNYT5c - Post Mortem - December 25 - 30 2021
Post by: snowc on March 04, 2022, 12:12:46 PM
Folks
Updated thread OP to reflect recent changes to GNYT!
I did eventually go there during my absence from the forum.