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Most useless US Highway?

Started by Roadgeekteen, February 01, 2021, 06:19:41 PM

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Roadgeekteen

You guys already know my views on 5 and 11.

But US 400 has no use, most of it has another number.
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hotdogPi

Clinched, plus MA 286

Traveled, plus several state routes

Lowest untraveled: 25 (updated from 14)

New clinches: MA 286
New traveled: MA 14, MA 123

silverback1065

Us 400 is a waste of a number. Us 56 is another.

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Max Rockatansky

Subtracting the scenic factor US 191 between Alpine and Morenci in Arizona. 

SkyPesos

From a google search:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11557.0
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=20373.0

And at this point, the "Unpopular US highways opinions" thread is pretty much a type of useless US highways thread.

kphoger

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 01, 2021, 06:19:41 PM
But US 400 has no use, most of it has another number.

It's tough for me to get to I-44 from here without it, considering that's the highway I use.  These 132 miles of that route are not duplexed with any other highway, except exactly one mile of K-99.

Before you go and say it should go back to just being K-96, consider that it's the primary corridor between Wichita and Springfield, MO.  It is heavily utilized by truckers, RV travelers, regional businessmen, and locals alike.  Truck traffic accounts for about 25-35% of the total volume, depending on the segment.

Boring? yes.  Useless? no.

Personally, I think it should be extended eastward over K-171, MO-171, and MO-96 (old Route 66) to Halltown.
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JayhawkCO

Quote from: 1 on February 01, 2021, 06:34:38 PM
US 350

I'll pick a different one from my state. US138.  At least US350 provides a shortcut from New Mexico to La Junta.  US138 is basically just BL76.

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RoadWarrior56

To me, US 138 is the US Highway equivalent of an elderly almost-forgotten man who lost his parents when he was a toddler (US 38 of course), and has no memory of them.  He  only has a tattered old roadside photo of a US 38 sign in the field to remind him of who his birth parents were.  His foster parents (US 6) never adopted him, so he lived almost all of his life feeling like an orphan.  His useful working life was even cut short by I-80S/I-76, so he lives out his days as a lonely old man.

kenarmy

If a highway has a paralleling interstate, then it doesn't make it useless, but it is kinda worthless. But anyway,
- US 96, I mean cmon. At least the 400 routes serve important areas
- US 57. What's the point of having a duonational route if it doesn't go anywhere..? EXTEND IT
- US 113. It was a nice alternate, but it isn't that much faster than 13 anymore and it's purpose was defeated when it got truncated to DE 1.
- US 59/69/71/73/75/77 and 159. 159 doesn't even do its job now. But those other routes are literally too close together! I get these mixed up so I can't even go into detail.
- US 166. This is literally very useless. Its just a straight line between the 60's. It wishes to be US 400.
- US 56. I kinda like this, but did it really need to be a US route?
- US 180.. It reminds me of the kid who cheated in PE and ran shortcuts so they could get the most laps.

I was gonna put 138 on here, but I see yall already did. I kinda feel bad for it now
Just a reminder that US 6, 49, 50, and 98 are superior to your fave routes :)


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Scott5114

Quote from: kenarmy on February 01, 2021, 07:49:44 PM
- US 59/69/71/73/75/77 and 159. 159 doesn't even do its job now. But those other routes are literally too close together! I get these mixed up so I can't even go into detail.

If you can't tell the difference between, in order, Lawrence, Muskogee, Joplin, Leavenworth, Tulsa, and Oklahoma City, that will get you mixed up about a lot of different things in life, I'd imagine.
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kenarmy

Quote from: Scott5114 on February 01, 2021, 08:34:05 PM
Quote from: kenarmy on February 01, 2021, 07:49:44 PM
- US 59/69/71/73/75/77 and 159. 159 doesn't even do its job now. But those other routes are literally too close together! I get these mixed up so I can't even go into detail.

If you can't tell the difference between, in order, Lawrence, Muskogee, Joplin, Leavenworth, Tulsa, and Oklahoma City, that will get you mixed up about a lot of different things in life, I'd imagine.

No I mean in deciding which one should be done away with. Like at one point, 59,73,75,77,275, 269, and 69 are only around 150 miles apart, it may be smaller than this at another point, but I just picked one and measured. That's too much.
Just a reminder that US 6, 49, 50, and 98 are superior to your fave routes :)


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hotdogPi

Quote from: SkyPesos on February 01, 2021, 07:03:06 PM
From a google search:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11557.0
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=20373.0

And at this point, the "Unpopular US highways opinions" thread is pretty much a type of useless US highways thread.

The second one is his own.
Clinched, plus MA 286

Traveled, plus several state routes

Lowest untraveled: 25 (updated from 14)

New clinches: MA 286
New traveled: MA 14, MA 123

ahj2000

How about US 46? Small, only in NJ (gross), and end in the middle of the GW Bridge

Scott5114

Quote from: kenarmy on February 01, 2021, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 01, 2021, 08:34:05 PM
Quote from: kenarmy on February 01, 2021, 07:49:44 PM
- US 59/69/71/73/75/77 and 159. 159 doesn't even do its job now. But those other routes are literally too close together! I get these mixed up so I can't even go into detail.

If you can't tell the difference between, in order, Lawrence, Muskogee, Joplin, Leavenworth, Tulsa, and Oklahoma City, that will get you mixed up about a lot of different things in life, I'd imagine.

No I mean in deciding which one should be done away with. Like at one point, 59,73,75,77,275, 269, and 69 are only around 150 miles apart, it may be smaller than this at another point, but I just picked one and measured. That's too much.

They all serve completely different corridors. Why would you need to get rid of one?

Also there's no such thing as US-269.
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Ned Weasel

Quote from: ahj2000 on February 01, 2021, 10:36:23 PM
How about US 46? Small, only in NJ (gross), and end in the middle of the GW Bridge

I wouldn't call it "small;" it's a pretty major route in New Jersey.  And why is that "gross?"  US 57 is only in Texas, US 92 is only in Florida, and US 96 is only in Texas.  That being said, you could make the case for any of the above being downgraded to state routes.

Quote from: Scott5114 on February 02, 2021, 03:18:52 AM
Quote from: kenarmy on February 01, 2021, 09:42:33 PM
No I mean in deciding which one should be done away with. Like at one point, 59,73,75,77,275, 269, and 69 are only around 150 miles apart, it may be smaller than this at another point, but I just picked one and measured. That's too much.

They all serve completely different corridors. Why would you need to get rid of one?

Also there's no such thing as US-269.

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kenarmy

#16
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 02, 2021, 03:18:52 AM
Quote from: kenarmy on February 01, 2021, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 01, 2021, 08:34:05 PM
Quote from: kenarmy on February 01, 2021, 07:49:44 PM
- US 59/69/71/73/75/77 and 159. 159 doesn't even do its job now. But those other routes are literally too close together! I get these mixed up so I can't even go into detail.

If you can't tell the difference between, in order, Lawrence, Muskogee, Joplin, Leavenworth, Tulsa, and Oklahoma City, that will get you mixed up about a lot of different things in life, I'd imagine.

No I mean in deciding which one should be done away with. Like at one point, 59,73,75,77,275, 269, and 69 are only around 150 miles apart, it may be smaller than this at another point, but I just picked one and measured. That's too much.

They all serve completely different corridors. Why would you need to get rid of one?

Also there's no such thing as US-269.
I meant 169, and you can add 159 to that list. And you would need to get rid of one because they are too close together! There are several other corridors that really deserve a two digit number and it has a lot to do with the system being so skewed. All those routes aren't deserving a US number, or a 2 digit one at least. Why is 73 still a thing? It's a shortcut to KC, but using 75 to go to I-40 is slightly faster.. Why couldn't it have been downgraded so the number could be used elsewhere?
Just a reminder that US 6, 49, 50, and 98 are superior to your fave routes :)


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hotdogPi

Quote from: kenarmy on February 02, 2021, 08:17:57 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 02, 2021, 03:18:52 AM
Quote from: kenarmy on February 01, 2021, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 01, 2021, 08:34:05 PM
Quote from: kenarmy on February 01, 2021, 07:49:44 PM
- US 59/69/71/73/75/77 and 159. 159 doesn't even do its job now. But those other routes are literally too close together! I get these mixed up so I can't even go into detail.

If you can't tell the difference between, in order, Lawrence, Muskogee, Joplin, Leavenworth, Tulsa, and Oklahoma City, that will get you mixed up about a lot of different things in life, I'd imagine.

No I mean in deciding which one should be done away with. Like at one point, 59,73,75,77,275, 269, and 69 are only around 150 miles apart, it may be smaller than this at another point, but I just picked one and measured. That's too much.

They all serve completely different corridors. Why would you need to get rid of one?

Also there's no such thing as US-269.
I meant 169, and you can add 159 to that list. And you would need to get rid of one because they are too close together! There are several other corridors that really deserve a two digit number and it has a lot to do with the system being so skewed. All those routes aren't deserving a US number, or a 2 digit one at least. Why is 73 still a thing? It's a shortcut to KC, but using 75 to go to I-40 is slightly faster.. Why couldn't it have been downgraded so the number could be used elsewhere?

2010 to 1930 population ratios:


   United States      2.51   
    North Dakota      0.99   
    West Virginia      1.07   
    South Dakota      1.18   
    Iowa      1.23   
    District of Columbia      1.24   
    Pennsylvania      1.32   
    Nebraska      1.33   
    Mississippi      1.48   
    Kansas      1.52   
    Rhode Island      1.53   
    New York      1.54   
    Massachusetts      1.54   
    Oklahoma      1.57   
    Arkansas      1.57   
    Missouri      1.65   
    Kentucky      1.66   
    Maine      1.67   
    Illinois      1.68   
    Ohio      1.74   
    Vermont      1.74   
    Alabama      1.81   
    Montana      1.84   
    Wisconsin      1.94   
    Indiana      2.00   
    Michigan      2.04   
    Minnesota      2.07   
    Louisiana      2.16   
    New Jersey      2.18   
    Connecticut      2.22   
    Tennessee      2.43   
    Wyoming      2.50   
    South Carolina      2.66   
    New Hampshire      2.83   
    North Carolina      3.01   
    Virginia      3.30   
    Georgia      3.33   
    Idaho      3.52   
    Maryland      3.54   
    Hawaii      3.69   
    Delaware      3.77   
    Oregon      4.02   
    Washington      4.30   
    Texas      4.32   
    Colorado      4.86   
    New Mexico      4.86   
    Utah      5.44   
    California      6.56   
    Alaska      11.98   
    Florida      12.81   
    Arizona      14.67   
    Nevada      29.66   

States with lower numbers than the US average of 2.51 will, in general, have more US routes than it seems like they should.
Clinched, plus MA 286

Traveled, plus several state routes

Lowest untraveled: 25 (updated from 14)

New clinches: MA 286
New traveled: MA 14, MA 123

Flint1979

US-59 has always been out of the grid but it's part of the NAFTA corridor and yes it parallels US-75 for almost it's entire route never getting anymore than 100 miles away from it until it gets to Houston but it's still an important highway I guess it's just a numbering issue. US-59 really should be US-73. I don't even think the current US-73 even needs to exist as a US highway at all it's only 113 miles long and almost entirely within Kansas (except for the northern 22 miles which are in Nebraska). 73 isn't used as a state highway in Kansas that should have been KS-73 and US-73 should have been on US-59's route.

capt.ron

US 371. Most of it is overlapped with other highways anyway.

Scott5114

#20
Quote from: kenarmy on February 02, 2021, 08:17:57 AM
And you would need to get rid of one because they are too close together!

No, you don't.

This thread is "most useless US Highway". All of the corridors you mentioned have distinct uses.

Quote from: Flint1979 on February 02, 2021, 11:33:18 AM
US-59 really should be US-73. I don't even think the current US-73 even needs to exist as a US highway at all it's only 113 miles long and almost entirely within Kansas (except for the northern 22 miles which are in Nebraska). 73 isn't used as a state highway in Kansas that should have been KS-73 and US-73 should have been on US-59's route.

US-73 actually used to follow the US-69 corridor through eastern Oklahoma, ending in Atoka. For some reason US-69 got extended over what used to be US-73 in 1935. A portion of what is now US-59 in Kansas was actually US-73W.
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hotdogPi

Clinched, plus MA 286

Traveled, plus several state routes

Lowest untraveled: 25 (updated from 14)

New clinches: MA 286
New traveled: MA 14, MA 123

roadman65

Quote from: ahj2000 on February 01, 2021, 10:36:23 PM
How about US 46? Small, only in NJ (gross), and end in the middle of the GW Bridge


As a designation yes. As a route no.
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hbelkins

US 641, to me, is the textbook example.


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kenarmy

#24
Quote from: 1 on February 02, 2021, 03:39:51 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 02, 2021, 03:34:45 PM
All of the corridors you mentioned have distinct uses.

Even 159?

^This. You can't tell me that every one of the highways I listed needs a US route number or isn't necessary. just because its "distinct"  :-P You could say 73 is distinct, but do we realllyy need it? Does it being distinct make it useful? Not really, especially when there's a faster route between it's terminuses.
Just a reminder that US 6, 49, 50, and 98 are superior to your fave routes :)


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