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jakeroot:

--- Quote from: Bruce on October 13, 2022, 09:10:08 PM ---
--- Quote from: jakeroot on October 13, 2022, 09:07:59 PM ---
--- Quote from: Bruce on October 13, 2022, 08:39:13 PM ---What's wrong with SR 167? Given its fishhook shape, north-south is pretty reasonable.

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Unless they intend to switch the route direction at Meridian, traffic is going the wrong way between Fife and Puyallup.

I'm not saying it's egregious, but...410 should just take over the whole route from its junction with 167.

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That would be a good solution. And so would extending SR 16 over I-5, SR 167, and SR 410 to finally fix that child route numbering issue.  :-D

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Amaury:

--- Quote from: Bruce on October 13, 2022, 08:39:13 PM ---What's wrong with SR 167? Given its fishhook shape, north-south is pretty reasonable.
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I agree: https://goo.gl/maps/hzsKdiM6cUMe6YgP8

I don't even consider that traffic is "going the wrong way," as the "fishhook" section runs west and east, not a reversed south and north, but based on the entire route, it's super clear which way is which. This is certainly not as "dramatic" as US Route 101 in Washington.

Washington State Route 503, not including its spur route, is similar: https://goo.gl/maps/ZaZUUeYKKQaDLF7a7

jakeroot:
503 is signed East-West at I-5 but North-South at 500:

In Vancouver: https://maps.app.goo.gl/dGsr2V8vR6xJECbR7?g_st=ic
In Woodland: https://maps.app.goo.gl/MDvvk7QpzsXx7RN18?g_st=ic

So itís not similar to 503.

This is the scenario I hate: traffic going south on I-5 has to go north on 167 to reach Puyallup, a city to the south of their location (especially when they start seeing advanced signage near Federal Way). And exactly zero of those cars are going to continue all the way around to, say, 24th in Sumner.

At the very least, they should sign it East-West from I-5 to Meridian.

ErmineNotyours:

--- Quote from: Bruce on October 13, 2022, 08:39:13 PM ---
SR 516 already covers the Des Moines section and will likely be kept. The southern section does serve a state park, so I think it could warrant a new state route number (SR 511 is still available).


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509 south of the 516 junction to the first junction with 99 has already been deleted from the state system.  Yes, that meant that King County, and now Des Moines had to maintain the high bridge over the park.  They rebuilt the approach on the south side and repainted the bridge, so it was no small expense.

Bruce:

--- Quote from: ErmineNotyours on October 17, 2022, 12:56:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: Bruce on October 13, 2022, 08:39:13 PM ---
SR 516 already covers the Des Moines section and will likely be kept. The southern section does serve a state park, so I think it could warrant a new state route number (SR 511 is still available).


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509 south of the 516 junction to the first junction with 99 has already been deleted from the state system.  Yes, that meant that King County, and now Des Moines had to maintain the high bridge over the park.  They rebuilt the approach on the south side and repainted the bridge, so it was no small expense.

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By southern section, I mean the segment from Tacoma to Federal Way that serves Dash Point State Park, not the Saltwater State Park section.

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