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LGBT+ Roadgeeks
« on: September 09, 2020, 01:53:24 PM »

Hi. Trans gay female just wondering if there are any other LGBT roadgeeks on this thread. I only knew of three myself that are open about it--me, vtk (nb), and DJParticle (cis lesbian).

This is intended to be a support/alliance group. We do not welcome homophobes, transphobes, or other anti-LGBT people here.
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2020, 01:56:06 PM »

A third trans female joined recently. Only 7 posts so far.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=27544.0
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Re: LGBT+ Roadgeeks
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2020, 02:10:38 PM »

A third trans female joined recently. Only 7 posts so far.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=27544.0


Noted and posted.


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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2020, 02:24:57 PM »

A third trans female joined recently. Only 7 posts so far.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=27544.0


Noted and posted.


BTW, are you LGBT? This is a judgment-free zone.

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Re: LGBT+ Roadgeeks
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2020, 02:28:39 PM »

I don't fall into any of those categories and couldn't care less who does and does not, but I do know that the OP's list is incomplete. I feel it would be in exceptionally poor taste, and probably worthy of moderator sanctions, for anyone to post that sort of information about someone else unless it's 100% certain that person has openly acknowledged that he or she falls within those categories, so I will decline to name any specific individuals out of concern that I don't know whether those people would be OK with that.
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Re: LGBT+ Roadgeeks
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2020, 02:36:14 PM »

I don't fall into any of those categories and couldn't care less who does and does not, but I do know that the OP's list is incomplete. I feel it would be in exceptionally poor taste, and probably worthy of moderator sanctions, for anyone to post that sort of information about someone else unless it's 100% certain that person has openly acknowledged that they fall within those categories, so I will decline to name any specific individuals out of concern that I don't know whether those people would be OK with that.


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« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2020, 02:37:53 PM »

I don't fall into any of those categories and couldn't care less who does and does not, but I do know that the OP's list is incomplete. I feel it would be in exceptionally poor taste, and probably worthy of moderator sanctions, for anyone to post that sort of information about someone else unless it's 100% certain that person has openly acknowledged that they fall within those categories, so I will decline to name any specific individuals out of concern that I don't know whether those people would be OK with that.


Understood. Removed their names for the sake of anonymity.

The users you mentioned have all said it publicly on this forum.
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2020, 02:46:20 PM »

I don't fall into any of those categories and couldn't care less who does and does not, but I do know that the OP's list is incomplete. I feel it would be in exceptionally poor taste, and probably worthy of moderator sanctions, for anyone to post that sort of information about someone else unless it's 100% certain that person has openly acknowledged that they fall within those categories, so I will decline to name any specific individuals out of concern that I don't know whether those people would be OK with that.


Understood. Removed their names for the sake of anonymity.

I didn't mean that as criticism of your post, and I apologize if my comment was unclear. As "1" notes, I know at least one of the posters you mentioned had publicly stated it on this forum—that person even started a thread about it. I don't know about the other person you mentioned, but I have no reason to question what "1" says. If someone publicly stated it on the forum, then I don't think the moderators would have a problem with other people mentioning it. I was simply noting that I am aware that the list you had posted was incomplete but that I was uncomfortable identifying anyone because I wasn't certain whether that information was known about the people I know of who weren't on your list.

Sorry to write that in such a convoluted way. I'm trying to be really careful in how I word things, but I'm also trying to make it clear that insofar as I know, there was nothing wrong with what you posted. My point is more along the lines of, if I know that John Doe claims to be a woman, but I don't know whether that fact is not generally known, then I wouldn't feel it's my place to mention that about John Doe.
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Re: LGBT+ Roadgeeks
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2020, 02:55:52 PM »

I don't fall into any of those categories and couldn't care less who does and does not, but I do know that the OP's list is incomplete. I feel it would be in exceptionally poor taste, and probably worthy of moderator sanctions, for anyone to post that sort of information about someone else unless it's 100% certain that person has openly acknowledged that they fall within those categories, so I will decline to name any specific individuals out of concern that I don't know whether those people would be OK with that.


Understood. Removed their names for the sake of anonymity.

The users you mentioned have all said it publicly on this forum.

I knew that, I just wanted to abide by 1995's instructions. Didn't want to single anyone out, really.

....if I know that John Doe claims to be a woman, but I don't know whether that fact is not generally known, then I wouldn't feel it's my place to mention that about John Doe.

Trans people don't claim they're the gender with which they identify; they are it. Trans women are women, trans men are men, and nonbinary people are nonbinary, regardless of what their sex assigned at birth was. People don't usually pretend to be trans for clout--if they did, they would be at risk of receiving useless transphobia.

But again, if "John"--in this case more likely "Jane"--wasn't out as trans yet, it would be bad to out her. But if she were out and did mention it, then it would be safe to do, as 1 mentioned.

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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2020, 08:59:58 PM »

wow i'm feeling so proud to be myself today  :spin:
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« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2020, 09:42:04 PM »

wow i'm feeling so proud to be myself today  :spin:

Good, I'm glad you're here and I hope you always feel welcome. You've posted a lot of good stuff.
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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2020, 10:31:39 PM »

wow i'm feeling so proud to be myself today  :spin:

From one PA resident (albeit the opposite corner from you) to another, I am definitely happy for you and wish you the best.
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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2020, 10:31:51 PM »

Sorry to write that in such a convoluted way. I'm trying to be really careful in how I word things, but I'm also trying to make it clear that insofar as I know, there was nothing wrong with what you posted. My point is more along the lines of, if I know that John Doe claims to be a woman, but I don't know whether that fact is not generally known, then I wouldn't feel it's my place to mention that about John Doe.
But according to the movie Seven, John Doe is a man :D
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« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2020, 10:36:47 PM »

"road trips with both straight and gay - lodging issues"

*shrug* hotel rooms come with two beds, no one is asking you to spoon each other.

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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2020, 12:23:55 AM »

Sorry to write that in such a convoluted way. I'm trying to be really careful in how I word things, but I'm also trying to make it clear that insofar as I know, there was nothing wrong with what you posted. My point is more along the lines of, if I know that John Doe claims to be a woman, but I don't know whether that fact is not generally known, then I wouldn't feel it's my place to mention that about John Doe.
But according to the movie Seven, John Doe is a man :D
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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2020, 11:01:09 AM »


"road trips with both straight and gay - lodging issues"

*shrug* hotel rooms come with two beds, no one is asking you to spoon each other.

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Re: LGBT+ Roadgeeks
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2020, 11:34:27 AM »

Hi. Trans gay female just wondering if there are any other LGBT roadgeeks on this thread. I only knew of three myself that are open about it--me, vtk (nb), and DJParticle (cis lesbian).

This is intended to be a support/alliance group. We do not welcome homophobes, transphobes, or other anti-LGBT people here.

I'm pretty darn gay, myself.  Some folks here might already know that.


Welcome to the club!  :cheers:
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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2020, 12:05:26 PM »

"road trips with both straight and gay - lodging issues"

*shrug* hotel rooms come with two beds, no one is asking you to spoon each other.



I had a gay roommate in college for 1½ years--was never an issue. At this point in my life though, I have no interest in sharing a hotel room with anybody other than my wife and kids, regardless of orientation.
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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2020, 02:28:03 PM »

This is a topic that I personally appreciate.  I'm a cis gay man... came out to myself in 1997 and gradually came out to friends and family over the years since then.  I joined the roadgeek community in 2003 and was pretty much "out" from the get-go when I joined this overwhelmingly supportive community.  Not every single person in the roadgeek community is an LGBT ally, but most are.

There are a lot of LGBT folks within the roadgeek community... some who are active on the AARoads forum; some who are not.  Some who attend road meets; some who don't.  My partner/husband has attended a few road meets with me over the years (at least the meal portion of a few meets), but for the most part he's not interested in what we do... but he supports my interest and my desire to attend road meets on my own.

I'm glad you posted this topic!!  It's always nice to see more LGBT folks within our community.  :D
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« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2020, 02:40:02 PM »

Not every single person in the roadgeek community is an LGBT ally, but most are.

Well, I should hope that one doesn't need to be an 'ally' in order to be civil, friendly, and even welcoming to members.
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« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2020, 02:45:29 PM »

Not every single person in the roadgeek community is an LGBT ally, but most are.

Well, I should hope that one doesn't need to be an 'ally' in order to be civil, friendly, and even welcoming to members.

You make a good point.  Perhaps what I should have said was, "Most folks within the roadgeek community are friendly and welcoming to LGBT folks."  I consider many of the roadgeek friends I've made over the years to be "allies".
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« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2020, 02:49:48 PM »

I've gone back and forth on this for a little bit. Obviously I'm only 17, so any of this could change. I'm a cis male, and I thought I might be gay for a little while, but then ended up with a girlfriend and I'm happy about that. I think I might be bi, but I'm not quite sure. Ultimately, my attitude at present is "it is what it is" and there's no need to sort myself nicely into any box, and who knows. Maybe one day I will, maybe I won't, but at least at this point I don't really feel any pressure, either from myself or anyone else, to do that.
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« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2020, 02:56:33 PM »



Not every single person in the roadgeek community is an LGBT ally, but most are.

Well, I should hope that one doesn't need to be an 'ally' in order to be civil, friendly, and even welcoming to members.

You make a good point.  Perhaps what I should have said was, "Most folks within the roadgeek community are friendly and welcoming to LGBT folks."  I consider many of the roadgeek friends I've made over the years to be "allies".

Frankly, I don't care about members' love/sex lives—whether straight or gay.  That's not why I'm on this forum.
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« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2020, 03:20:31 PM »



Not every single person in the roadgeek community is an LGBT ally, but most are.

Well, I should hope that one doesn't need to be an 'ally' in order to be civil, friendly, and even welcoming to members.

You make a good point.  Perhaps what I should have said was, "Most folks within the roadgeek community are friendly and welcoming to LGBT folks."  I consider many of the roadgeek friends I've made over the years to be "allies".

Frankly, I don't care about members' love/sex lives—whether straight or gay.  That's not why I'm on this forum.


LGBTQ identity is more than about one's "love / sex life"
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« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2020, 03:33:02 PM »



Not every single person in the roadgeek community is an LGBT ally, but most are.

Well, I should hope that one doesn't need to be an 'ally' in order to be civil, friendly, and even welcoming to members.

You make a good point.  Perhaps what I should have said was, "Most folks within the roadgeek community are friendly and welcoming to LGBT folks."  I consider many of the roadgeek friends I've made over the years to be "allies".

Frankly, I don't care about members' love/sex lives—whether straight or gay.  That's not why I'm on this forum.


LGBTQ identity is more than about one's "love / sex life"

I see LGBTQ as two separate categories mixed together that probably shouldn't be.

The first is being gay, lesbian, or bisexual. Your own gender is normal, but you are attracted to a different set of people than you normally would be.

Transgender, genderfluid, no gender at all, etc. is the second category. Here, it's your own gender that's unusual. This group is much rarer than the first group.
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