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Re: LGBT+ Roadgeeks
« Reply #50 on: September 14, 2020, 03:26:34 PM »

Hmm. I tend not to focus on stuff like this, I'm not really that big on identity related stuff, and I usually never bring it up but this is a relevant thread so here comes a relevant response.

Yuh huh, I'm one of them, specifically on the asexual spectrum, attraction is not completely absent but I do experience it to a certain extent, towards the 'G' part of things. I can't pinpoint it exactly, hard to describe but it's not that big a deal for me.

As for the acronym I think using LGBT, LGBTQ, LGBTQIA, etc, and all its other variants is kind of unoptimal, and not because I don't support it, I fully support the demographic, but because it can tend to get increasingly verbose for lack of a better term and there's always arguments about inclusion or what means what. This would be solved by just using GRSM - gender, romantic and sexual minorities. Includes everything you can think of under the sun.
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« Reply #51 on: September 14, 2020, 03:29:32 PM »

Hmm. I tend not to focus on stuff like this, I'm not really that big on identity related stuff, and I usually never bring it up but this is a relevant thread so here comes a relevant response.

Yuh huh, I'm one of them, specifically on the asexual spectrum, attraction is not completely absent but I do experience it to a certain extent, towards the 'G' part of things. I can't pinpoint it exactly, hard to describe but it's not that big a deal for me.

As for the acronym I think using LGBT, LGBTQ, LGBTQIA, etc, and all its other variants is kind of unoptimal, and not because I don't support it, I fully support the demographic, but because it can tend to get increasingly verbose for lack of a better term and there's always arguments about inclusion or what means what. This would be solved by just using GRSM - gender, romantic and sexual minorities. Includes everything you can think of under the sun.

Doesn't that still leave the possibility that some people get lumped together under the umbrella who don't really want to be lumped together?
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Re: LGBT+ Roadgeeks
« Reply #52 on: September 14, 2020, 03:56:27 PM »

An ally is part of the LGBTQ+ group (hence the A in some of the extended abbreviations) despite being straight. I support the group, but I am not an ally as I don't identify as being part of the group.
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Re: LGBT+ Roadgeeks
« Reply #53 on: September 14, 2020, 04:03:51 PM »

An ally is part of the LGBTQ+ group (hence the A in some of the extended abbreviations) despite being straight. I support the group, but I am not an ally as I don't identify as being part of the group.
The A stands, usually, for asexual or aromantic (although I've heard it stand for agender too). It does not stand for ally. Being an ally just means someone who supports the rights of LGBTQ+ people, it does not mean that you are a part of that community. It's the same thing as a racial justice ally - supporting the rights of non-white people doesn't make you a person of color.
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Re: LGBT+ Roadgeeks
« Reply #54 on: October 11, 2020, 12:04:19 AM »

Hi. Trans gay female just wondering if there are any other LGBT roadgeeks on this thread. I only knew of three myself that are open about it--me, vtk (nb), and DJParticle (cis lesbian).


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« Reply #55 on: October 11, 2020, 06:18:03 PM »

An ally is part of the LGBTQ+ group (hence the A in some of the extended abbreviations) despite being straight. I support the group, but I am not an ally as I don't identify as being part of the group.
The A stands, usually, for asexual or aromantic (although I've heard it stand for agender too). It does not stand for ally. Being an ally just means someone who supports the rights of LGBTQ+ people, it does not mean that you are a part of that community. It's the same thing as a racial justice ally - supporting the rights of non-white people doesn't make you a person of color.

My first thought upon a cursory reading of this was, "I've heard of people who have 'gaydar' before, but there are people who can tell by smell?" But that would be aromatic, not aromantic.  :-D

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Re: LGBT+ Roadgeeks
« Reply #56 on: October 11, 2020, 08:32:46 PM »

Talk about my ability to play the ID pol (identity politics) card, I'm in 3 communities: LGBTQ (genderfluid "hetero" bio-male), in the ASD (Autism) and BIPOC (stands for Black, Indigenous and People of Color, I happen to have Native American/Cherokee ancestry). No matter how diverse we are on this forum, we all get together and can get along fine while we discuss roads and other topics that interest us. In the year 2020, despite we came a long way in the awareness, tolerance and acceptance of LGBTQ people, we have a long way to go until the majority of people in this country (the USA) reject homophobia, biphobia and transphobia.
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Re: LGBT+ Roadgeeks
« Reply #57 on: October 14, 2020, 12:11:27 AM »

I think allies can come on, but this is meant to be a more educational and supportive group.
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Re: LGBT+ Roadgeeks
« Reply #58 on: October 14, 2020, 12:12:58 AM »

Hi, everyone. To bring things back to a sense of normalcy, I've restored the productive discussion about LBGTQ+, what it means, what it means to be an ally, etc. I've restored some of the inoffensive humor. I've taken away meta-discussion about locking threads, removing posts, etc. This forum is not intended to censor, but on the other hand, we are in Off Topic, so expect the moderating staff to have a heavier hand here than usual.

Keep in mind that for many people, the things they're disclosing in this thread are intensely personal and private, and they view this as a safe space. Let's leave this primarily for those people, but let's also feel free to interact with them and grow our community. I'd rather leave this thread unlocked in that spirit, and hopefully we can all move forward together. Thanks for bearing with us.

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« Reply #59 on: October 14, 2020, 12:14:41 AM »

An ally is part of the LGBTQ+ group (hence the A in some of the extended abbreviations) despite being straight. I support the group, but I am not an ally as I don't identify as being part of the group.
My understanding is that no, allies are NOT part of the group. This is based on my discussions with (and posts by) my LBGTQ+ friends. Allies can support the community, join them and fight with them, but they are a distinct group. It's an important distinction, just like those of us who are not African-American/black can join their cause and support them, but cannot become them.

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« Reply #60 on: October 14, 2020, 09:36:06 AM »

An ally is part of the LGBTQ+ group (hence the A in some of the extended abbreviations) despite being straight. I support the group, but I am not an ally as I don't identify as being part of the group.
My understanding is that no, allies are NOT part of the group. This is based on my discussions with (and posts by) my LBGTQ+ friends. Allies can support the community, join them and fight with them, but they are a distinct group. It's an important distinction, just like those of us who are not African-American/black can join their cause and support them, but cannot become them.
Most other folks I know part of the demographic say the A, when used, means asexual.
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Re: LGBT+ Roadgeeks
« Reply #61 on: October 14, 2020, 10:51:46 AM »

I appreciate both the moderator cleanup of this thread, and even moreso the reintroduction of previously deleted posts.  In fact, I'm a little surprised at how many of my own posts were allowed back on the thread.

For those who had a chip on their shoulder similar to mine about heavy-handed moderation:  this, to me, was a clear case of unintended consequences sprouting from good intentions.  Such has been corrected with a decidedly liberal hand, removing unnecessary clutter but otherwise restoring most of the relevant discussion from members with differing viewpoints.




An ally is part of the LGBTQ+ group (hence the A in some of the extended abbreviations) despite being straight. I support the group, but I am not an ally as I don't identify as being part of the group.

My understanding is that no, allies are NOT part of the group. This is based on my discussions with (and posts by) my LBGTQ+ friends. Allies can support the community, join them and fight with them, but they are a distinct group. It's an important distinction, just like those of us who are not African-American/black can join their cause and support them, but cannot become them.

And so, with that, let's all put to bed the discussion about what the letters really mean.
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Re: LGBT+ Roadgeeks
« Reply #62 on: October 15, 2020, 09:17:22 PM »

An ally is part of the LGBTQ+ group (hence the A in some of the extended abbreviations) despite being straight. I support the group, but I am not an ally as I don't identify as being part of the group.
My understanding is that no, allies are NOT part of the group. This is based on my discussions with (and posts by) my LBGTQ+ friends. Allies can support the community, join them and fight with them, but they are a distinct group. It's an important distinction, just like those of us who are not African-American/black can join their cause and support them, but cannot become them.
Most other folks I know part of the demographic say the A, when used, means asexual.

Those who identify as ace or aro (aromantic, as had been noted below) appreciate being included as the A.

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« Reply #63 on: October 16, 2020, 05:37:02 PM »

An ally is part of the LGBTQ+ group (hence the A in some of the extended abbreviations) despite being straight. I support the group, but I am not an ally as I don't identify as being part of the group.
My understanding is that no, allies are NOT part of the group. This is based on my discussions with (and posts by) my LBGTQ+ friends. Allies can support the community, join them and fight with them, but they are a distinct group. It's an important distinction, just like those of us who are not African-American/black can join their cause and support them, but cannot become them.
Most other folks I know part of the demographic say the A, when used, means asexual.

Those who identify as ace or aro (aromantic, as had been noted below) appreciate being included as the A.


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« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2020, 08:38:30 PM »

Ace? What does he have to do with this?

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« Reply #65 on: October 16, 2020, 08:59:27 PM »

Ace? What does he have to do with this?


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« Reply #66 on: October 16, 2020, 11:33:59 PM »

A third trans female joined recently. Only 7 posts so far.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=27544.0

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