I don't understand why exit signs on I-90/I-94 (at least headed toward the city) have signs for an exit to 22nd St? There is no "22nd St". The street is called "Cermak Rd". It's not just the signs for that exit, also signs for the express lanes say "Next Exit: 22nd St".
22nd Street is Cermak Road. It has two names. By the way, the ramp is the Chinatown Feeder.
22nd St was chosen to honor Anton Cermak (a Czech immigrant who became mayor of Chicago from 1931-1933 when he was assassinated while being with Franklin Roosevelt) because it passed through the (at the time) heavily Czech-American neighborhoods of Pilsen and Lawndale as well as Berwyn and Cicero.
As to your question, it may be because 90/94 heading north actually twice has exits to Cermak Rd. The Chinatown feeder labelled as 22nd St and a direct ramp at Canalport Ave.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8507255,-87.6447742,3a,75y,2.54h,89.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sO-f6anisTlNPm-J0TFi0OQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
I suspect they kept the number for the Chinatown feeder to distinguish between the 2 exits.
It appears that Cermak Rd. and W. 22nd St. are co-signed along a stretch of roadway in Cicero, as seen here: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8515257,-87.7400958,215m/data=!3m1!1e3. The roadway becomes solely Cermak Rd. again west of State Highway 43 (Harlem Ave.). Cermak Rd. then becomes solely 22nd St. west of Interstate 294.
Don't trust the Google. It's all 22nd St and it's also all Cermak Road. Take it from a local. Exit signage on I-294 (https://goo.gl/maps/Nnr6a5KbzNRbiXwUA) is wise to use both names.
Now the section of 22nd Street WEST of Meyers Road in Lombard, a completely separate segment, is only known as 22nd Street. Don't go calling that Cermak Road.
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 18, 2020, 06:56:05 PM
Don't trust the Google. It's all 22nd St and it's also all Cermak Road. Take it from a local. Exit signage on I-294 (https://goo.gl/maps/Nnr6a5KbzNRbiXwUA) is wise to use both names.
Now the section of 22nd Street WEST of Meyers Road in Lombard, a completely separate segment, is only known as 22nd Street. Don't go calling that Cermak Road.
That one actually still coinsides with the original Chicago street grid.
Quote from: Crash_It on August 19, 2020, 02:45:03 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 18, 2020, 06:56:05 PM
Don't trust the Google. It's all 22nd St and it's also all Cermak Road. Take it from a local. Exit signage on I-294 (https://goo.gl/maps/Nnr6a5KbzNRbiXwUA) is wise to use both names.
Now the section of 22nd Street WEST of Meyers Road in Lombard, a completely separate segment, is only known as 22nd Street. Don't go calling that Cermak Road.
That one actually still coinsides with the original Chicago street grid.
The continuous segment of Cermak/22nd ends at Butterfield Rd in Oak Brook. West of that point there are several other segments of 22nd that more or less line up with the main segment.
Quote from: cabiness42 on August 19, 2020, 08:29:31 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on August 19, 2020, 02:45:03 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 18, 2020, 06:56:05 PM
Don't trust the Google. It's all 22nd St and it's also all Cermak Road. Take it from a local. Exit signage on I-294 (https://goo.gl/maps/Nnr6a5KbzNRbiXwUA) is wise to use both names.
Now the section of 22nd Street WEST of Meyers Road in Lombard, a completely separate segment, is only known as 22nd Street. Don't go calling that Cermak Road.
That one actually still coinsides with the original Chicago street grid.
The continuous segment of Cermak/22nd ends at Butterfield Rd in Oak Brook. West of that point there are several other segments of 22nd that more or less line up with the main segment.
Basically, 22nd becomes Butterfield as you head West. As far as naming, in Oak Brook (and once you jump into DuPage County) it mainly is just referred to as 22nd Street. The name Cermak Rd more or less pops up and becomes more common in usage as you head East towards the city.
What Oak Brook calls the road has nothing to do with the sign on the Ryan.
Also, where are these signs? I don't see them on GSV.
Quote from: kphoger on August 19, 2020, 11:21:39 AM
What Oak Brook calls the road has nothing to do with the sign on the Ryan.
Also, where are these signs? I don't see them on GSV.
The point of the matter is that Cermak Road and 22nd St are the same roadway, and often people in Chicago do refer to it as 22nd Street. It seems the biggest difference is that IDOT refers to it more as 22nd Street while CDOT uses the name Cermak Rd. The Tollway does both.
Oak Brook:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8467042,-87.9578927,3a,75y,180.8h,84.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgT3WFDcPOgv68H6i6XNRgg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Dan Ryan (Chicago):
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8379171,-87.6303411,3a,75y,1.22h,91.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgjUVULWz9rtAXh6ahJpWMA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
Feeder Ramp @ 22nd (Cermak):
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8527805,-87.6312069,3a,75y,356.05h,79.04t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1ssYlD34ZH-WWPHkxJyoIeSw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Tri-State Tollway (I-294):
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.849267,-87.9194794,3a,75y,181.42h,86.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sGs44x0-awqzvP3oqahDNLg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
On a related note, was the feeder from/to the Dan Ryan Expressway always supposed to run between the Ryan and Cermak. I thought I read somewhere that long ago the connector was supposed to continue just west of Canal St to Wacker Dr. This could be urban legend but the way the roadway runs northbound from the Ryan expressway, crossing I-55, then suddenly bending to stop at Cermak seems premature.
Quote from: Ryctor2018 on August 19, 2020, 05:24:16 PM
On a related note, was the feeder from/to the Dan Ryan Expressway always supposed to run between the Ryan and Cermak. I thought I read somewhere that long ago the connector was supposed to continue just west of Canal St to Wacker Dr. This could be urban legend but the way the roadway runs northbound from the Ryan expressway, crossing I-55, then suddenly bending to stop at Cermak seems premature.
I do recall this story too about it being connected to Wacker Dr. But it may be urban legend.
The connection to lower Wacker was a plan . It was in the 1976 supplementary freeway report. There were Ghost Ramps Inn the Kennedy for a Western Avenue freeway.The Stony Island feeder ramps for a connection LSD And the land for the Crosstown was acquired from the Stevenson to Midway.
That was the extent of anything but ideas for further Chicago Freeways.
It is. My auto correct likes that. Also the ramps were there before the CATS interim plan that was never adopted. Western Avenue was the original crosstown corridor in the early expressway plans. And as a road geek I can't pass a thread that has one. ...
Btw. Does anyone recall what side of Western Avenue the Ghost Ramps were?
That's because 22nd is Cermak, just like 12th is Roosevelt and 39th is Pershing and 55th is Garfield.
Quote from: 3467 on August 20, 2020, 04:42:05 PM
Btw. Does anyone recall what side of Western Avenue the Ghost Ramps were?
The west side - Historic Aerials shows it at Diversey Avenue.
Quote from: cabiness42 on August 19, 2020, 08:29:31 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on August 19, 2020, 02:45:03 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 18, 2020, 06:56:05 PM
Don't trust the Google. It's all 22nd St and it's also all Cermak Road. Take it from a local. Exit signage on I-294 (https://goo.gl/maps/Nnr6a5KbzNRbiXwUA) is wise to use both names.
Now the section of 22nd Street WEST of Meyers Road in Lombard, a completely separate segment, is only known as 22nd Street. Don't go calling that Cermak Road.
That one actually still coinsides with the original Chicago street grid.
The continuous segment of Cermak/22nd ends at Butterfield Rd in Oak Brook. West of that point there are several other segments of 22nd that more or less line up with the main segment.
You'd be surprised how far west the Chicago street influences the suburbs. There's a 249th Ave out near the Oswego/Aurora border
Quote from: ET21 on August 31, 2020, 09:53:38 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on August 19, 2020, 08:29:31 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on August 19, 2020, 02:45:03 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 18, 2020, 06:56:05 PM
Don't trust the Google. It's all 22nd St and it's also all Cermak Road. Take it from a local. Exit signage on I-294 (https://goo.gl/maps/Nnr6a5KbzNRbiXwUA) is wise to use both names.
Now the section of 22nd Street WEST of Meyers Road in Lombard, a completely separate segment, is only known as 22nd Street. Don't go calling that Cermak Road.
That one actually still coinsides with the original Chicago street grid.
The continuous segment of Cermak/22nd ends at Butterfield Rd in Oak Brook. West of that point there are several other segments of 22nd that more or less line up with the main segment.
You'd be surprised how far west the Chicago street influences the suburbs. There's a 249th Ave out near the Oswego/Aurora border
Do you mean 248th Ave? That's out there. No 249th.
And going south, there is 319th St south of Beecher along Route 1.
Quote from: hobsini2 on September 01, 2020, 07:35:55 PM
Quote from: ET21 on August 31, 2020, 09:53:38 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on August 19, 2020, 08:29:31 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on August 19, 2020, 02:45:03 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 18, 2020, 06:56:05 PM
Don't trust the Google. It's all 22nd St and it's also all Cermak Road. Take it from a local. Exit signage on I-294 (https://goo.gl/maps/Nnr6a5KbzNRbiXwUA) is wise to use both names.
Now the section of 22nd Street WEST of Meyers Road in Lombard, a completely separate segment, is only known as 22nd Street. Don't go calling that Cermak Road.
That one actually still coinsides with the original Chicago street grid.
The continuous segment of Cermak/22nd ends at Butterfield Rd in Oak Brook. West of that point there are several other segments of 22nd that more or less line up with the main segment.
You'd be surprised how far west the Chicago street influences the suburbs. There's a 249th Ave out near the Oswego/Aurora border
Do you mean 248th Ave? That's out there. No 249th.
And going south, there is 319th St south of Beecher along Route 1.
Yes that's the one lol
Quote from: ET21 on August 31, 2020, 09:53:38 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on August 19, 2020, 08:29:31 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on August 19, 2020, 02:45:03 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 18, 2020, 06:56:05 PM
Don't trust the Google. It's all 22nd St and it's also all Cermak Road. Take it from a local. Exit signage on I-294 (https://goo.gl/maps/Nnr6a5KbzNRbiXwUA) is wise to use both names.
Now the section of 22nd Street WEST of Meyers Road in Lombard, a completely separate segment, is only known as 22nd Street. Don't go calling that Cermak Road.
That one actually still coinsides with the original Chicago street grid.
The continuous segment of Cermak/22nd ends at Butterfield Rd in Oak Brook. West of that point there are several other segments of 22nd that more or less line up with the main segment.
You'd be surprised how far west the Chicago street influences the suburbs. There's a 249th Ave out near the Oswego/Aurora border
(It's 248th Ave, which we have established by now.)
I grew up in Oswego and work in Will County. As you might already know, the Chicago street grid governs rural addresses all across DuPage, Kane, and Will Counties. I was driving on West River Road south of Wilmington just today, where the addresses on this north-south road are in the 32 and 33 thousands.
Quote from: hobsini2 on September 01, 2020, 07:35:55 PM
Quote from: ET21 on August 31, 2020, 09:53:38 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on August 19, 2020, 08:29:31 AM
Quote from: Crash_It on August 19, 2020, 02:45:03 AM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on August 18, 2020, 06:56:05 PM
Don't trust the Google. It's all 22nd St and it's also all Cermak Road. Take it from a local. Exit signage on I-294 (https://goo.gl/maps/Nnr6a5KbzNRbiXwUA) is wise to use both names.
Now the section of 22nd Street WEST of Meyers Road in Lombard, a completely separate segment, is only known as 22nd Street. Don't go calling that Cermak Road.
That one actually still coinsides with the original Chicago street grid.
The continuous segment of Cermak/22nd ends at Butterfield Rd in Oak Brook. West of that point there are several other segments of 22nd that more or less line up with the main segment.
You'd be surprised how far west the Chicago street influences the suburbs. There's a 249th Ave out near the Oswego/Aurora border
Do you mean 248th Ave? That's out there. No 249th.
And going south, there is 319th St south of Beecher along Route 1.
I don't see any south of 319th, the county line isn't much further south of there either.