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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3200 on: April 27, 2021, 09:50:41 AM »

Drove on the freeway stretch of US 12 in Walworth County. It was just resurfaced in addition to new concrete below bridges from the state line to Lake Geneva. Thereís now signals at the stub end. Between Wis 67 and Wis 50, the freeway is in rough shape and will hopefully be worked on soon!
Decades likely.

I'm sure Lake Geneva wanted WisDOT to fix the stretch from the state line to WI-50. There's much less incentive to do WI-50 to WI-67, even though the AADT is the same.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3201 on: April 27, 2021, 12:42:57 PM »

Drove on the freeway stretch of US 12 in Walworth County. It was just resurfaced in addition to new concrete below bridges from the state line to Lake Geneva. Thereís now signals at the stub end. Between Wis 67 and Wis 50, the freeway is in rough shape and will hopefully be worked on soon!
Decades likely.

I'm sure Lake Geneva wanted WisDOT to fix the stretch from the state line to WI-50. There's much less incentive to do WI-50 to WI-67, even though the AADT is the same.

Gee, I wonder what Lake Geneva's incentive could have possibly been...
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3202 on: April 29, 2021, 12:50:45 AM »

Groundbreaking ceremony today on the Wis 29/County VV Interchange Project. Wis 29 will be all freeway west of I-41 in Brown County once the project is complete. The 70 mph speed limit will probably also extend west from County FF to Shawano County once the project is complete.

https://www.wbay.com/2021/04/28/ground-broken-on-new-highway-29-interchange/
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3203 on: April 29, 2021, 07:54:34 AM »

Groundbreaking ceremony today on the Wis 29/County VV Interchange Project. Wis 29 will be all freeway west of I-41 in Brown County once the project is complete. The 70 mph speed limit will probably also extend west from County FF to Shawano County once the project is complete.

https://www.wbay.com/2021/04/28/ground-broken-on-new-highway-29-interchange/
And this is how WI-29 will be upgraded over time - one new interchange every decade or so. It might eventually get to Interstate standards, but it will be a while.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3204 on: April 29, 2021, 05:25:43 PM »

Groundbreaking ceremony today on the Wis 29/County VV Interchange Project. Wis 29 will be all freeway west of I-41 in Brown County once the project is complete. The 70 mph speed limit will probably also extend west from County FF to Shawano County once the project is complete.

https://www.wbay.com/2021/04/28/ground-broken-on-new-highway-29-interchange/
And this is how WI-29 will be upgraded over time - one new interchange every decade or so. It might eventually get to Interstate standards, but it will be a while.

And from there, it would be a fairly simple and inexpensive task to similarly upgrade the non-freeway part from the Brown/Shawano County line westward to Bonduel.

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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3205 on: April 30, 2021, 12:24:01 AM »

Groundbreaking ceremony today on the Wis 29/County VV Interchange Project. Wis 29 will be all freeway west of I-41 in Brown County once the project is complete. The 70 mph speed limit will probably also extend west from County FF to Shawano County once the project is complete.

https://www.wbay.com/2021/04/28/ground-broken-on-new-highway-29-interchange/
And this is how WI-29 will be upgraded over time - one new interchange every decade or so. It might eventually get to Interstate standards, but it will be a while.

And from there, it would be a fairly simple and inexpensive task to similarly upgrade the non-freeway part from the Brown/Shawano County line westward to Bonduel.

Mike

It's a fairly simple and inexpensive task to upgrade the non-freeway parts to Chippewa Falls. There's just no need and the money can be better spent elsewhere.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3206 on: May 05, 2021, 03:09:13 AM »

Here is a map of officially designated freeways and expressways. Notice how most of Wis 29 is designated as a freeway even though most parts have cross traffic along with US 51 north of Merrill, the US 151 Fond Du Lac Bypass, and Wis 35 between Hudson and River Falls.  Iím assuming those sections will get top priority for freeway conversion?

Itís also interesting that no part of Wis 26 received a freeway or expressway designation and Wis 15 has an expressway designation in anticipation of future expansion around Hortonville even with 2 roundabouts on the mainline.

https://wisconsindot.gov/Documents/travel/road/hwy-maps/freewaymap.pdf
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3207 on: May 05, 2021, 02:52:05 PM »

Here is a map of officially designated freeways and expressways. Notice how most of Wis 29 is designated as a freeway even though most parts have cross traffic along with US 51 north of Merrill, the US 151 Fond Du Lac Bypass, and Wis 35 between Hudson and River Falls.  Iím assuming those sections will get top priority for freeway conversion?

Itís also interesting that no part of Wis 26 received a freeway or expressway designation and Wis 15 has an expressway designation in anticipation of future expansion around Hortonville even with 2 roundabouts on the mainline.

https://wisconsindot.gov/Documents/travel/road/hwy-maps/freewaymap.pdf


Couldn't they use a better key than a bunch of empty squares bunched together and a bunch of empty circles bunched together?
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3208 on: May 05, 2021, 07:53:44 PM »

Here is a map of officially designated freeways and expressways. Notice how most of Wis 29 is designated as a freeway even though most parts have cross traffic along with US 51 north of Merrill, the US 151 Fond Du Lac Bypass, and Wis 35 between Hudson and River Falls.  Iím assuming those sections will get top priority for freeway conversion?

Itís also interesting that no part of Wis 26 received a freeway or expressway designation and Wis 15 has an expressway designation in anticipation of future expansion around Hortonville even with 2 roundabouts on the mainline.

https://wisconsindot.gov/Documents/travel/road/hwy-maps/freewaymap.pdf


Couldn't they use a better key than a bunch of empty squares bunched together and a bunch of empty circles bunched together?
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3209 on: May 05, 2021, 08:46:42 PM »

Here is a map of officially designated freeways and expressways. Notice how most of Wis 29 is designated as a freeway even though most parts have cross traffic along with US 51 north of Merrill, the US 151 Fond Du Lac Bypass, and Wis 35 between Hudson and River Falls.  Iím assuming those sections will get top priority for freeway conversion?

Itís also interesting that no part of Wis 26 received a freeway or expressway designation and Wis 15 has an expressway designation in anticipation of future expansion around Hortonville even with 2 roundabouts on the mainline.

https://wisconsindot.gov/Documents/travel/road/hwy-maps/freewaymap.pdf

Heck, I'm wondering if the WI 35 River Falls Spur might someday become 'I-994'.

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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3210 on: May 05, 2021, 10:20:17 PM »

Here is a map of officially designated freeways and expressways. Notice how most of Wis 29 is designated as a freeway even though most parts have cross traffic along with US 51 north of Merrill, the US 151 Fond Du Lac Bypass, and Wis 35 between Hudson and River Falls.  Iím assuming those sections will get top priority for freeway conversion?

Itís also interesting that no part of Wis 26 received a freeway or expressway designation and Wis 15 has an expressway designation in anticipation of future expansion around Hortonville even with 2 roundabouts on the mainline.

https://wisconsindot.gov/Documents/travel/road/hwy-maps/freewaymap.pdf

Heck, I'm wondering if the WI 35 River Falls Spur might someday become 'I-994'.

Mike
A fate worse than I-180 in IL?

The portion of freeway north of Wausau is still signed 65-mph speed limit. Most if not all of it can be 70 up to US 8.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3211 on: May 05, 2021, 10:42:55 PM »

Here is a map of officially designated freeways and expressways. Notice how most of Wis 29 is designated as a freeway even though most parts have cross traffic along with US 51 north of Merrill, the US 151 Fond Du Lac Bypass, and Wis 35 between Hudson and River Falls.  Iím assuming those sections will get top priority for freeway conversion?

Itís also interesting that no part of Wis 26 received a freeway or expressway designation and Wis 15 has an expressway designation in anticipation of future expansion around Hortonville even with 2 roundabouts on the mainline.

https://wisconsindot.gov/Documents/travel/road/hwy-maps/freewaymap.pdf

Heck, I'm wondering if the WI 35 River Falls Spur might someday become 'I-994'.

Mike
A fate worse than I-180 in IL?

The portion of freeway north of Wausau is still signed 65-mph speed limit. Most if not all of it can be 70 up to US 8.

The 70 mph speed limits have been very inconsistent on non-interstate freeways. Short stretches of Wis 57 and Wis 29 in Brown County are signed at 70. Yet much longer freeway stretches such as US 51 north of Wausau, US 10/US 45 west of I-41, and Wis 16 in Lake Country are signed at 65 when they could easily be 70.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3212 on: May 06, 2021, 02:41:56 PM »

I often joke that the short US 14 freeway from Madison to Oregon was upped to 70 because some folks who work at WisDOT must live that way. :-D
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« Reply #3213 on: May 13, 2021, 05:34:55 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/WisDOT/posts/4215240631833733

WisDOT is moving away from plywood signs. Not sure if this means they are also moving away from unisigns as well.
No but I hope this means they will move away from the non cutout interstate shields.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3214 on: May 13, 2021, 07:21:22 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/WisDOT/posts/4215240631833733

WisDOT is moving away from plywood signs. Not sure if this means they are also moving away from unisigns as well.
No but I hope this means they will move away from the non cutout interstate shields.
Nope.  Due to the unisigns
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3215 on: May 14, 2021, 11:41:03 AM »

https://www.facebook.com/WisDOT/posts/4215240631833733

WisDOT is moving away from plywood signs. Not sure if this means they are also moving away from unisigns as well.
No but I hope this means they will move away from the non cutout interstate shields.
Nope.  Due to the unisigns
I am ok with the non cut outs for the unisigns it's the non cut out stand alone shields that I wish would be phased out.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3216 on: May 14, 2021, 04:39:30 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/WisDOT/posts/4215240631833733

WisDOT is moving away from plywood signs. Not sure if this means they are also moving away from unisigns as well.
No but I hope this means they will move away from the non cutout interstate shields.
Nope.  Due to the unisigns
I am ok with the non cut outs for the unisigns it's the non cut out stand alone shields that I wish would be phased out.

Hahahaha, imagine seeing standalone shields posted from WisDOT!
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« Reply #3217 on: May 17, 2021, 11:17:29 AM »

https://www.facebook.com/WisDOT/posts/4215240631833733

WisDOT is moving away from plywood signs. Not sure if this means they are also moving away from unisigns as well.
No but I hope this means they will move away from the non cutout interstate shields.
Nope.  Due to the unisigns
I am ok with the non cut outs for the unisigns it's the non cut out stand alone shields that I wish would be phased out.

Hahahaha, imagine seeing standalone shields posted from WisDOT!
I don't get why that is so funny but whatever. Speaking of shields the Illinois style county route shields are once again appearing in Waukesha County. Has anyone seen them in any other county. For whatever reason at least as far as I know I have only seen them in Waukesha County. I wonder what is up with that?
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3218 on: May 17, 2021, 12:48:46 PM »

Where in Waukesha County are these "Illinois-style" county shields? As I can't travel there myself, can you get pictures of these county shields? I'd be interested to see what they look like.
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« Reply #3219 on: May 17, 2021, 02:18:44 PM »

Where in Waukesha County are these "Illinois-style" county shields? As I can't travel there myself, can you get pictures of these county shields? I'd be interested to see what they look like.
I don't have a smartphone so I can't share pictures but I can tell you there are several around Mukwonago along Hwy LO and at ES and NN. In fact Bill Burmaster featured it as a goof on his sign mistakes page so that is another place you can check it out. And as of recently several new ones have appeared around the Sussex Menomonee Falls area.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3220 on: May 17, 2021, 02:33:18 PM »

I just saw this shield on CTH-LO just west of its eastern terminus on Street View: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.866037,-88.3346866,3a,75y,272.49h,96.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skyM-2IG51k5PSkMGbYC0Eg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656. I like the "Wisconsin-style" County Highway signs better. I also find it interesting that both CTH-NN (1919-1967) and CTH-LO (1967-1999) were both once designated STH-99.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3221 on: May 17, 2021, 04:13:50 PM »

I thought that you were referring to MUTCD 'County' pentagons, which I have (at least I think that I have) seen in Illinois.  A few counties in the northwoods use that style of square county sign, too, including Lincoln County.

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« Reply #3222 on: May 17, 2021, 04:21:52 PM »

Those county highway signs are different, but hardly problematic.
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« Reply #3223 on: May 17, 2021, 04:24:33 PM »

Yeah, I was thinking they were blue pentagons which would have been very weird to see.
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« Reply #3224 on: May 17, 2021, 08:27:43 PM »

I just saw this shield on CTH-LO just west of its eastern terminus on Street View: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.866037,-88.3346866,3a,75y,272.49h,96.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skyM-2IG51k5PSkMGbYC0Eg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656. I like the "Wisconsin-style" County Highway signs better. I also find it interesting that both CTH-NN (1919-1967) and CTH-LO (1967-1999) were both once designated STH-99.
Meh - county work.  That happens.
https://www.facebook.com/WisDOT/posts/4215240631833733

WisDOT is moving away from plywood signs. Not sure if this means they are also moving away from unisigns as well.
No but I hope this means they will move away from the non cutout interstate shields.
Nope.  Due to the unisigns
I am ok with the non cut outs for the unisigns it's the non cut out stand alone shields that I wish would be phased out.

Hahahaha, imagine seeing standalone shields posted from WisDOT!
I don't get why that is so funny but whatever.
Imagine a Wisconsin Interstate shield without a black background getting installed as part of a finished project.

Oh, you can't?  I wonder why.
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