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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3225 on: May 17, 2021, 09:38:47 PM »

I hate the CTH-LO shield almost as much as I hate the name CTH-LO.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3226 on: May 17, 2021, 09:45:55 PM »

I hate the CTH-LO shield almost as much as I hate the name CTH-LO.
So you hate Lloyd Owens, a longtime local politician?
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3227 on: May 18, 2021, 09:40:04 AM »

I hate the CTH-LO shield almost as much as I hate the name CTH-LO.
So you hate Lloyd Owens, a longtime local politician?


Well he's been dead for over a decade, so I don't think he'd be offended.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3228 on: May 18, 2021, 04:52:51 PM »

If we're going to name Wisconsin Highways after politicians, how about we rename Interstate 794 (currently known as the East-West Freeway) from the Marquette Interchange to the Lake Interchange as the John Norquist Freeway. The irony of doing that is that, soon after becoming mayor, Norquist proposed tearing down that portion of Interstate 794 and converting it into a signaled surface boulevard. Ultimately, it was the underutilized Park East Freeway that was demolished.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3229 on: May 18, 2021, 05:25:23 PM »

If we're going to name Wisconsin Highways after politicians, how about we rename Interstate 794 (currently known as the East-West Freeway) from the Marquette Interchange to the Lake Interchange as the John Norquist Freeway. The irony of doing that is that, soon after becoming mayor, Norquist proposed tearing down that portion of Interstate 794 and converting it into a signaled surface boulevard. Ultimately, it was the underutilized Park East Freeway that was demolished.


It was a good idea.  It was great for the Park East Freeway corridor.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3230 on: May 18, 2021, 09:20:15 PM »

I just saw this shield on CTH-LO just west of its eastern terminus on Street View: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.866037,-88.3346866,3a,75y,272.49h,96.69t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1skyM-2IG51k5PSkMGbYC0Eg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656. I like the "Wisconsin-style" County Highway signs better. I also find it interesting that both CTH-NN (1919-1967) and CTH-LO (1967-1999) were both once designated STH-99.

Isn't that just a really old county highway sign? I'm not sure when CTH LO was designated, but this plain looking county highway sign was(is?) seen frequently in Marinette County. I'm not sure how many of them still exist. Here is a really crappy Google streetview pic, and you can see it's the same style sign.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0708675,-87.6198505,3a,75y,107.71h,90.93t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8tFwX812yDNuBPPcFBUVOg!2e0!7i3328!8i1664

This intersection in the City of Marinette has had this sign for as long as I can remember. CTH BB is(was) full of this style sign. There were also quite a few of them along CTH M and CTH W southwest of Peshtigo.

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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3231 on: May 18, 2021, 09:31:15 PM »

^^ CTH LO was designated in 1999.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3232 on: May 18, 2021, 09:58:31 PM »

Yeah those style county signs started popping up about 15-20 years ago and only in Waukesha County.  It was all the talk on misc.transport.road back then.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3233 on: May 21, 2021, 04:08:59 PM »

https://www.facebook.com/123584364348830/posts/5921057061268169/?d=n

Groundbreaking on the Wis 15 project. Instead of interchanges WISDOT opted for 2 roundabouts at each end of the Hortonville Bypass.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3234 on: May 22, 2021, 11:43:53 AM »

https://www.facebook.com/123584364348830/posts/5921057061268169/?d=n

Groundbreaking on the Wis 15 project. Instead of interchanges WISDOT opted for 2 roundabouts at each end of the Hortonville Bypass.

I've known about the roundabouts for several years now.  It is good to see this project starting, commuter traffic on WI 15 through Hortonville has been the stuff of legends for as long as I have been alive.  I can envision major upgrades for the entire corridor, including at its interchange at I-41, too.  We have not seen the last of this road.

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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3235 on: May 23, 2021, 01:02:36 PM »

What’s the construction on I-41/894 at the Zoo Interchange?

Also, that interchange never ceases to amaze me. I would put it right up there behind Texas’ High Five in terms of the best interchanges in the country.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3236 on: May 24, 2021, 03:54:12 PM »

It should be this: https://projects.511wi.gov/41goodhope/. Also, I'm glad STH-15 is finally being expanded to four lanes between US 45 in New London and Lily of the Valley Dr. in Greenville, although I find having roundabouts at both terminuses of the Hortonville Bypass to be rather odd. I don't recall seeing that on any other bypasses within the state of Wisconsin.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3237 on: May 24, 2021, 06:35:13 PM »

It should be this: https://projects.511wi.gov/41goodhope/.
So it's mostly the Silver Spring and Lovers Lane intersection. The rest is cosmetic stuff.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3238 on: May 25, 2021, 11:06:17 AM »

What’s the construction on I-41/894 at the Zoo Interchange?

Also, that interchange never ceases to amaze me. I would put it right up there behind Texas’ High Five in terms of the best interchanges in the country.

I think you're also looking at the North Leg project between Watertown Plank Road and Burleigh.  It was part of the original Zoo Interchange project that was pushed back...
https://projects.511wi.gov/zoo-interchange-project/
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3239 on: June 01, 2021, 02:32:04 PM »

Yeah those style county signs started popping up about 15-20 years ago and only in Waukesha County.  It was all the talk on misc.transport.road back then.
Then they stopped for awhile but now they are popping up again. What is odd is when Hwy LO was created in 1999 there is a mix of these odd signs as well as the traditional ones. Even though they were all put up at the exact same time.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3240 on: June 26, 2021, 08:47:42 PM »

The widening of WI-23 between Fond du Lac and Plymouth is . . . going on. The expected timeframe of “mid-2021” for the completion of the eastern half of the project (east of Division Road) is not going to happen.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3241 on: June 29, 2021, 09:36:05 AM »

Wisconsin's budget will include funds for the expansion of I-94 in Milwaukee.  Both the Republicans and Governor Evers are in agreement here.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/29/wisconsin-republican-legislators-pass-budget-cuts-taxes/7785245002/?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot

I-94 expansion gets bipartisan support

Despite their many differences, Evers and Republicans have seen eye to eye on rebuilding I-94 west of downtown Milwaukee. The budget would spend $82 million to prepare for a project that could begin in late 2022 and is expected to eventually cost more than $1.1 billion.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3242 on: June 29, 2021, 02:27:55 PM »

Good! Rebuilding and expanding Interstate 94 between 70th St. and 16th St. is well overdue. Hopefully, the project is also enumerated and begins on time.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3243 on: June 30, 2021, 11:36:55 AM »

Wisconsin's budget will include funds for the expansion of I-94 in Milwaukee.  Both the Republicans and Governor Evers are in agreement here.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/29/wisconsin-republican-legislators-pass-budget-cuts-taxes/7785245002/?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot

I-94 expansion gets bipartisan support

Despite their many differences, Evers and Republicans have seen eye to eye on rebuilding I-94 west of downtown Milwaukee. The budget would spend $82 million to prepare for a project that could begin in late 2022 and is expected to eventually cost more than $1.1 billion.
Not going to happen, too much political backlash in Milwaukee for its own good.
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Whether a team makes the playoffs isn't comparable to whether they are above .500. Part of making the playoffs is getting the wins when you need them to get in, which Brady/Belichick always found a way to do. That's skill. Being above .500 or below .500 is just however things shake out. That's luck.

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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3244 on: June 30, 2021, 04:32:53 PM »

Wisconsin's budget will include funds for the expansion of I-94 in Milwaukee.  Both the Republicans and Governor Evers are in agreement here.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/29/wisconsin-republican-legislators-pass-budget-cuts-taxes/7785245002/?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot

I-94 expansion gets bipartisan support

Despite their many differences, Evers and Republicans have seen eye to eye on rebuilding I-94 west of downtown Milwaukee. The budget would spend $82 million to prepare for a project that could begin in late 2022 and is expected to eventually cost more than $1.1 billion.
Not going to happen, too much political backlash in Milwaukee for its own good.


If Evers is supporting it, my guess is that it will happen. 
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3245 on: June 30, 2021, 05:14:08 PM »

Wisconsin's budget will include funds for the expansion of I-94 in Milwaukee.  Both the Republicans and Governor Evers are in agreement here.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/29/wisconsin-republican-legislators-pass-budget-cuts-taxes/7785245002/?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot

I-94 expansion gets bipartisan support

Despite their many differences, Evers and Republicans have seen eye to eye on rebuilding I-94 west of downtown Milwaukee. The budget would spend $82 million to prepare for a project that could begin in late 2022 and is expected to eventually cost more than $1.1 billion.
Not going to happen, too much political backlash in Milwaukee for its own good.


If Evers is supporting it, my guess is that it will happen.

Is it going to include a rebuild of the stadium interchange?
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3246 on: June 30, 2021, 08:09:56 PM »

Wisconsin's budget will include funds for the expansion of I-94 in Milwaukee.  Both the Republicans and Governor Evers are in agreement here.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/29/wisconsin-republican-legislators-pass-budget-cuts-taxes/7785245002/?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot

I-94 expansion gets bipartisan support

Despite their many differences, Evers and Republicans have seen eye to eye on rebuilding I-94 west of downtown Milwaukee. The budget would spend $82 million to prepare for a project that could begin in late 2022 and is expected to eventually cost more than $1.1 billion.
Not going to happen, too much political backlash in Milwaukee for its own good.


If Evers is supporting it, my guess is that it will happen.
Yeah, hopefully. Can't wait to drive it if and when it finally gets done.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3247 on: June 30, 2021, 08:13:54 PM »

Wisconsin's budget will include funds for the expansion of I-94 in Milwaukee.  Both the Republicans and Governor Evers are in agreement here.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/29/wisconsin-republican-legislators-pass-budget-cuts-taxes/7785245002/?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot

I-94 expansion gets bipartisan support

Despite their many differences, Evers and Republicans have seen eye to eye on rebuilding I-94 west of downtown Milwaukee. The budget would spend $82 million to prepare for a project that could begin in late 2022 and is expected to eventually cost more than $1.1 billion.
Not going to happen, too much political backlash in Milwaukee for its own good.


If Evers is supporting it, my guess is that it will happen.

Is it going to include a rebuild of the stadium interchange?
I don't see how it wouldn't. They wouldn't have a problem funding it either, they could just sign a sponsorship deal with American Family to rename it the American Family Interchange.  :-D
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Whether a team makes the playoffs isn't comparable to whether they are above .500. Part of making the playoffs is getting the wins when you need them to get in, which Brady/Belichick always found a way to do. That's skill. Being above .500 or below .500 is just however things shake out. That's luck.

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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #3248 on: June 30, 2021, 08:33:32 PM »

Wisconsin's budget will include funds for the expansion of I-94 in Milwaukee.  Both the Republicans and Governor Evers are in agreement here.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/29/wisconsin-republican-legislators-pass-budget-cuts-taxes/7785245002/?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot

I-94 expansion gets bipartisan support

Despite their many differences, Evers and Republicans have seen eye to eye on rebuilding I-94 west of downtown Milwaukee. The budget would spend $82 million to prepare for a project that could begin in late 2022 and is expected to eventually cost more than $1.1 billion.
Not going to happen, too much political backlash in Milwaukee for its own good.


If Evers is supporting it, my guess is that it will happen.

Is it going to include a rebuild of the stadium interchange?
I don't see how it wouldn't. They wouldn't have a problem funding it either, they could just sign a sponsorship deal with American Family to rename it the American Family Interchange.  :-D

The drawing that I have seen from WisDOT over the past few decades have mostly shown the Stadium Interchange being downgraded to a par-clo.

YMMV.

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« Reply #3249 on: June 30, 2021, 08:38:53 PM »

Wisconsin's budget will include funds for the expansion of I-94 in Milwaukee.  Both the Republicans and Governor Evers are in agreement here.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/29/wisconsin-republican-legislators-pass-budget-cuts-taxes/7785245002/?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot

I-94 expansion gets bipartisan support

Despite their many differences, Evers and Republicans have seen eye to eye on rebuilding I-94 west of downtown Milwaukee. The budget would spend $82 million to prepare for a project that could begin in late 2022 and is expected to eventually cost more than $1.1 billion.
Not going to happen, too much political backlash in Milwaukee for its own good.


If Evers is supporting it, my guess is that it will happen.

Is it going to include a rebuild of the stadium interchange?
I don't see how it wouldn't. They wouldn't have a problem funding it either, they could just sign a sponsorship deal with American Family to rename it the American Family Interchange.  :-D

The drawing that I have seen from WisDOT over the past few decades have mostly shown the Stadium Interchange being downgraded to a par-clo.

YMMV.

Mike
Interesting. The bottleneck on I-94 is the main problem, so a par-clo could work, but it could also be overwhelmed with traffic on WI-175. I suppose upgrading the Mitchell Blvd and 35th Street interchanges could counteract that.
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Whether a team makes the playoffs isn't comparable to whether they are above .500. Part of making the playoffs is getting the wins when you need them to get in, which Brady/Belichick always found a way to do. That's skill. Being above .500 or below .500 is just however things shake out. That's luck.

 


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