2020 Summer Olympics

[kurumi]

The USA lost to France!

In what event?

Pretend for a second that I don't already know what you're talking about.  Because I don't.

In the game I watched yesterday (as a replay), France lost to the USA.

The event was boîte du chat, a traditional French game where you open a box with a cat inside.

Hence both results.

[hbelkins]

Basketball.

[LM117]

Could Puerto Rico theoretically keep it's team after becoming a state?

No, since it would a "whole" part of the country.

Native Hawaiians are wanting that rule changed...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/team-hawaiian-kingdom-activists-want-us-olympians-surf-different-homel-rcna1503

[kphoger]

Could Puerto Rico theoretically keep it's team after becoming a state?

No, since it would a "whole" part of the country.

Native Hawaiians are wanting that rule changed...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/team-hawaiian-kingdom-activists-want-us-olympians-surf-different-homel-rcna1503

Federico Lenzerini, an international law expert who submitted the petition to the IOC as an attorney representing the Hawaiian Kingdom National Olympic Committee, said the transfer of sovereignty between two independent authorities is "typically realized by treaty."  Otherwise, it has to be done "by prescription,"  or without protest from the people of the occupied territory. The Hawaiian Kingdom has never agreed to the occupation by the U.S.

"Consequently, our argument is that Hawaii's sovereignty has never been surrendered in a way that is valid under international law,"  he said.

I'm curious to know what other places that could apply to.

[NWI_Irish96]

Funny that Hawaii hasn't complained about being a part of the US over the past 100 years where American tourism has been the backbone of their economy, but now that there's a chance for Olympic recognition, suddenly the annexation was against their will.

[LM117]

Funny that Hawaii hasn't complained about being a part of the US over the past 100 years where American tourism has been the backbone of their economy, but now that there's a chance for Olympic recognition, suddenly the annexation was against their will.

Not to mention that if Hawaii was still independent right now, Russia and/or China would be knocking at their door. I'm not saying the US didn't pull any shady shit during the annexation, but if I were a native, I'd be pretty damn relieved to be part of the US right now.

If we followed their logic, there would be 50 different US Olympic teams.

[LM117]

Simone Biles pulled out of the individual all-around final.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/olympics/simone-biles-miss-individual-all-around-final-tokyo-olympics-n1275243

[kphoger]

Simone Biles pulled out of the individual all-around final.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/olympics/simone-biles-miss-individual-all-around-final-tokyo-olympics-n1275243

A tough choice, I'm sure.  I have to wonder if, years from now, she'll regret the decision or be at peace with it.

[LM117]

Simone Biles pulled out of the individual all-around final.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/olympics/simone-biles-miss-individual-all-around-final-tokyo-olympics-n1275243

A tough choice, I'm sure.  I have to wonder if, years from now, she'll regret the decision or be at peace with it.

Her performance at the vault was the straw that broke the camel's back. She got lost in the air.

[Henry]

To say the least, this has been a forgettable Olympics so far. A lot of us are probably looking forward to 2024 already...

[kphoger]

To say the least, this has been a forgettable Olympics so far. A lot of us are probably looking forward to 2024 already...

I'm not interested in the Olympics for the wow factor anyway.  Frankly, I think the Usain Bolt hype distracted from the games, for example.  So far, my family has enjoyed watching water polo, swimming, diving, volleyball, a bit of soccer and softball.  We're liking the games just fine.

As for swimming specifically, we've found the races for 2nd and 3rd place to be quite engaging in the races we've watched–even if there's a clear first place winner.  We've seen a lot of back-and-forth in the 2nd-through-4th places that have made it quite engaging to watch.

[Roadgeekteen]

USA men's basketball kills Iran 120-66. Iran sucks so not a big accomplishment.

[kphoger]

USA men's basketball kills Iran 120-66. Iran sucks so not a big accomplishment.

Kind of like Cameroon not winning the World Cup, you mean?

[Roadgeekteen]

USA men's basketball kills Iran 120-66. Iran sucks so not a big accomplishment.

Kind of like Cameroon not winning the World Cup, you mean?

Iran only has 1 former nba player.

[Alps]

Could Puerto Rico theoretically keep it's team after becoming a state?

No, since it would a "whole" part of the country.

Native Hawaiians are wanting that rule changed...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/team-hawaiian-kingdom-activists-want-us-olympians-surf-different-homel-rcna1503

Federico Lenzerini, an international law expert who submitted the petition to the IOC as an attorney representing the Hawaiian Kingdom National Olympic Committee, said the transfer of sovereignty between two independent authorities is "typically realized by treaty."  Otherwise, it has to be done "by prescription,"  or without protest from the people of the occupied territory. The Hawaiian Kingdom has never agreed to the occupation by the U.S.

"Consequently, our argument is that Hawaii's sovereignty has never been surrendered in a way that is valid under international law,"  he said.

I'm curious to know what other places that could apply to.

We have two Chinas competing. I bet a large amount of Russian Olympic Committee would want to be independent, and then you'd have places like Catalonia... too many major world powers have too many territories that have been unfavorably annexed to ever allow this to proceed.

[Roadgeekteen]

Could Puerto Rico theoretically keep it's team after becoming a state?

No, since it would a "whole" part of the country.

Native Hawaiians are wanting that rule changed...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/team-hawaiian-kingdom-activists-want-us-olympians-surf-different-homel-rcna1503

Federico Lenzerini, an international law expert who submitted the petition to the IOC as an attorney representing the Hawaiian Kingdom National Olympic Committee, said the transfer of sovereignty between two independent authorities is "typically realized by treaty."  Otherwise, it has to be done "by prescription,"  or without protest from the people of the occupied territory. The Hawaiian Kingdom has never agreed to the occupation by the U.S.

"Consequently, our argument is that Hawaii's sovereignty has never been surrendered in a way that is valid under international law,"  he said.

I'm curious to know what other places that could apply to.

We have two Chinas competing. I bet a large amount of Russian Olympic Committee would want to be independent, and then you'd have places like Catalonia... too many major world powers have too many territories that have been unfavorably annexed to ever allow this to proceed.

Both Chinas are separate sovereign nations.

[hotdogPi]

Not only are there two Chinas, but there's also a ROC, which is a form of China in every context except the Olympics.

[Roadgeekteen]

Not only are there two Chinas, but there's also a ROC, which is a form of China in every context except the Olympics.

Actually 4 Chinas then (Hong Kong and Macau).

[kenarmy]

Funny that Hawaii hasn't complained about being a part of the US over the past 100 years where American tourism has been the backbone of their economy, but now that there's a chance for Olympic recognition, suddenly the annexation was against their will.

Lol.. they did complain but nobody listens.

[Alps]

Both Chinas are separate sovereign nations.

Depends which one you ask...

[CNGL-Leudimin]

Not only are there two Chinas, but there's also a ROC, which is a form of China in every context except the Olympics.

Known by me as "Chinese Taipei" . Yes, even outside the Olympics. Because it's not just Taiwan, even thought it makes up almost all the total area of the RoC. Jinmen/Kinmen and Mazu/Matsu aren't really part of Taiwan province, thus putting them in a paradox as they aren't part of neither "China" (i.e. the PRC) nor Taiwan.

[Scott5114]

Taiwanese Beijing

[NWI_Irish96]

Here's a good description of how and why there are non-UN members at the Olympics:

https://www.polgeonow.com/2012/07/olympics-parade-of-nations.html

Ten overseas territories of countries, including three of the US, are grandfathered in after a 1995 rule that prohibited territories from competing separately.

Three nations: Taiwan, Palestine and Kosovo, are not UN members for various reasons but are de facto independent nations.

Due to a doping ban, Russia's country name, flag and anthem are banned and athletes are competing under the banner of the Russian Olympic Committee.

There is a refugee team, competing under the Olympic flag, of athletes who have no country for which to compete.

One country--Vatican City, has never competed in any Olympics.

[US 89]

One country--Vatican City, has never competed in any Olympics.

That's just disappointing. Surely at least one of those old cardinals is good at something athletic...

[NWI_Irish96]

One country--Vatican City, has never competed in any Olympics.

That's just disappointing. Surely at least one of those old cardinals is good at something athletic...

There's Olympic golf now, so get a couple of the youngest ones out on the course!