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Started by AcE_Wolf_287, March 21, 2020, 04:41:41 PM

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Favorite Auxilary Route?

I-275 (OH)
7 (25.9%)
I-405 (LA)
6 (22.2%)
I-287
4 (14.8%)
I-285 (GA)
1 (3.7%)
I-376
5 (18.5%)
I-291 (MA)
1 (3.7%)
I-890
0 (0%)
I-385
3 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 27

AcE_Wolf_287

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on March 22, 2020, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on March 21, 2020, 09:39:04 PM
I-366 in Virginia.  :-D :-D

But only the 85 MPH section.

I'd vote for the other I-291 if they ever finished it.

I'll vote for the now tri-state I-295.  The ultimate shunpike to the southern portion of the NJ Turnpike. 

I'm sure there will also be plenty of votes for I-175 in FL, I-375 in MI, I-189, I-195 in ME, I-395 in MD, and I-695 in NY and DC.

yea i-291 in Conn wouldve been really good if there wasn't any environmental concerns, ive been on I-291 in conn and its a pointless connector in CT


webny99

Classic example of a thread that does not need a poll.

For me it's a toss-up between I-490 and I-590. Too close to call.

Flint1979

I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.

AcE_Wolf_287

Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 02:27:44 PM
I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.

I-675 in MI seems like a weird interstate it doesnt surround the city like most bypasses are supposed to be

GaryV

Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 02:27:44 PM
I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.

I-675 in MI seems like a weird interstate it doesnt surround the city like most bypasses are supposed to be

Nor does I-475, I-496 or the unsigned I-296.  But they do follow the rules - they connect to Interstates at each end.


AcE_Wolf_287

Quote from: GaryV on March 23, 2020, 03:14:28 PM
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 02:27:44 PM
I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.

I-675 in MI seems like a weird interstate it doesnt surround the city like most bypasses are supposed to be

Nor does I-475, I-496 or the unsigned I-296.  But they do follow the rules - they connect to Interstates at each end.

I-496 is weird too, I still don't know why they have highways unsigned, whats the point of it being there if its not being confirmed there for people to know like I-296 or US 85/US 87 along I-25, I-475 seems fine it a bypass of Flint

oscar

Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:21:55 PM
I still don't know why they have highways unsigned, whats the point of it being there if its not being confirmed there for people to know like I-296 or US 85/US 87 along I-25.

The unsigned Interstates like I-296, I-595 in Maryland, and all the Interstates in Alaska and Puerto Rico, brought additional Federal money to those states, etc., under a Federal funding formula that no longer exists.

The poorly signed concurrences of US 85 and US 87 with I-25 tie together portions of the US routes that aren't concurrent with the Interstate.
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Flint1979

Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 02:27:44 PM
I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.

I-675 in MI seems like a weird interstate it doesnt surround the city like most bypasses are supposed to be
I-675 was originally built to bypass the old Zilwaukee Bridge which was a drawbridge that would back traffic up for miles when it was opened and to better serve the city of Saginaw. I-75 is the bypass of the city and 2 miles shorter than taking I-675 from end to end. I-675 has also been put into use for mainline I-75 when the new bridge was closed. The new Zilwaukee Bridge was built in the 1980's and it took a lot to get it complete, there was a construction accident when they were building it that caused them to have to hire a new contractor to finish it. I watched this bridge being built as a kid living in Zilwaukee.  And since it connects to I-75 at both ends it's not considered a spur but acts like one into downtown Saginaw.

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I-476. What else?
And you may ask yourself, where does that highway go to?
--David Byrne

Flint1979

Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:21:55 PM
Quote from: GaryV on March 23, 2020, 03:14:28 PM
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 02:27:44 PM
I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.

I-675 in MI seems like a weird interstate it doesnt surround the city like most bypasses are supposed to be

Nor does I-475, I-496 or the unsigned I-296.  But they do follow the rules - they connect to Interstates at each end.

I-496 is weird too, I still don't know why they have highways unsigned, whats the point of it being there if its not being confirmed there for people to know like I-296 or US 85/US 87 along I-25, I-475 seems fine it a bypass of Flint
I-475 goes through Flint, I-75 even though it doesn't really do a good job of it bypasses Flint proper but the reason I say it doesn't do a good job of bypassing it is because it still goes through a majority of the populated areas where it doesn't in Saginaw. You have Pierson Road, Corunna Road (M-21), Miller Road, I-69, Bristol Road and the US-23 split that add a lot of traffic to I-75. I-475 and I-675 are simply bypasses of I-75 not the cities they serve.

As for I-496 that highway is signed, it's I-296 in Grand Rapids that isn't. It follows the rules though. If anything I-196 should have an even number not an odd number but that resulted in I-96 and I-196 being flipped at Grand Rapids, originally I-196 went to Muskegon so it was a spur at that time and I-96 went to Benton Harbor. Imo, I-196 should be I-296.

GaryV

Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:21:55 PM
I-475 seems fine it a bypass of Flint
I-475 is on the eastern edge of downtown Flint.  I-75 skirts around Flint about 2 miles to the west of downtown.  The only time it is in the city limits is where there's a short segment connecting the airport to the rest of Flint.

thspfc

I voted for I-376. I also like I-794 and I-180 in Wyoming and Illinois.

AcE_Wolf_287

Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 04:03:10 PM
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:21:55 PM
Quote from: GaryV on March 23, 2020, 03:14:28 PM
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 02:27:44 PM
I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.

I-675 in MI seems like a weird interstate it doesnt surround the city like most bypasses are supposed to be

Nor does I-475, I-496 or the unsigned I-296.  But they do follow the rules - they connect to Interstates at each end.

I-496 is weird too, I still don't know why they have highways unsigned, whats the point of it being there if its not being confirmed there for people to know like I-296 or US 85/US 87 along I-25, I-475 seems fine it a bypass of Flint
I-475 goes through Flint, I-75 even though it doesn't really do a good job of it bypasses Flint proper but the reason I say it doesn't do a good job of bypassing it is because it still goes through a majority of the populated areas where it doesn't in Saginaw. You have Pierson Road, Corunna Road (M-21), Miller Road, I-69, Bristol Road and the US-23 split that add a lot of traffic to I-75. I-475 and I-675 are simply bypasses of I-75 not the cities they serve.


Yea i see what you mean, I-475 goes through downtown so I-75 is technically a bypass of Flint in the area, but even if there was a bridge involved with the making of I-675, Why was the Actually highway built north of downtown where the majority of traffic and Population is, not unless its just a way to acces downtown then thats something but anything else about it is weird

Flint1979

Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 04:43:19 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 04:03:10 PM
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:21:55 PM
Quote from: GaryV on March 23, 2020, 03:14:28 PM
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 02:27:44 PM
I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.

I-675 in MI seems like a weird interstate it doesnt surround the city like most bypasses are supposed to be

Nor does I-475, I-496 or the unsigned I-296.  But they do follow the rules - they connect to Interstates at each end.

I-496 is weird too, I still don't know why they have highways unsigned, whats the point of it being there if its not being confirmed there for people to know like I-296 or US 85/US 87 along I-25, I-475 seems fine it a bypass of Flint
I-475 goes through Flint, I-75 even though it doesn't really do a good job of it bypasses Flint proper but the reason I say it doesn't do a good job of bypassing it is because it still goes through a majority of the populated areas where it doesn't in Saginaw. You have Pierson Road, Corunna Road (M-21), Miller Road, I-69, Bristol Road and the US-23 split that add a lot of traffic to I-75. I-475 and I-675 are simply bypasses of I-75 not the cities they serve.


Yea i see what you mean, I-475 goes through downtown so I-75 is technically a bypass of Flint in the area, but even if there was a bridge involved with the making of I-675, Why was the Actually highway built north of downtown where the majority of traffic and Population is, not unless its just a way to acces downtown then thats something but anything else about it is weird
I-75 doesn't really bypass Flint it still skirts the western edge of the city. Like Gary said the only part that actually enters Flint is a small strip of land connecting Bishop Airport with the rest of Flint.

I-675 was made a loop so that access to downtown from the north could be made as well and exit 6 Tittabawassee Road is a busy exit and has most of the hotels in Saginaw at that exit. That is actually Saginaw Township and Kochville Township at exit 6. Tittabawassee is very busy and I-675 works as a route into downtown where the Dow Event Center and Huntington Event Park are.

Flint1979

I-75 is in Mount Morris Township, Flint Township, the very small stretch of Flint connecting the airport, Munday Township and Grand Blanc Township between the two ends of I-475.

NYhwyfan


plain

I-271. The stretch with the express lanes complete with high mast lighting running down the center of it does it for me.
Newark born, Richmond bred

skluth

I-894. It's concurrent with I-41 its entire length, so is the most useless 3DI in the entire system.

webny99

Quote from: plain on March 24, 2020, 01:56:33 PM
I-271. The stretch with the express lanes complete with high mast lighting running down the center of it does it for me.

Great pick. If I wasn't home-state biased, that might be my choice.
I wish more interstates with a lot of long distance traffic were set up like I-271. I-90 through Buffalo, for example.

bing101

I-280, I-680 and I-210 all California editions and they have great scenic sections.

Flint1979

Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 04:43:19 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 04:03:10 PM
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:21:55 PM
Quote from: GaryV on March 23, 2020, 03:14:28 PM
Quote from: AcE_Wolf_287 on March 23, 2020, 03:09:13 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 23, 2020, 02:27:44 PM
I like I-675 in Michigan but if you use it end to end you miss the infamous Zilwaukee Bridge along I-75/US-23.

I-675 in MI seems like a weird interstate it doesnt surround the city like most bypasses are supposed to be

Nor does I-475, I-496 or the unsigned I-296.  But they do follow the rules - they connect to Interstates at each end.

I-496 is weird too, I still don't know why they have highways unsigned, whats the point of it being there if its not being confirmed there for people to know like I-296 or US 85/US 87 along I-25, I-475 seems fine it a bypass of Flint
I-475 goes through Flint, I-75 even though it doesn't really do a good job of it bypasses Flint proper but the reason I say it doesn't do a good job of bypassing it is because it still goes through a majority of the populated areas where it doesn't in Saginaw. You have Pierson Road, Corunna Road (M-21), Miller Road, I-69, Bristol Road and the US-23 split that add a lot of traffic to I-75. I-475 and I-675 are simply bypasses of I-75 not the cities they serve.


Yea i see what you mean, I-475 goes through downtown so I-75 is technically a bypass of Flint in the area, but even if there was a bridge involved with the making of I-675, Why was the Actually highway built north of downtown where the majority of traffic and Population is, not unless its just a way to acces downtown then thats something but anything else about it is weird
I-75 does the same thing in Florida with I-275 going through Tampa and St. Petersburg and I-75 doing the bypassing.

sprjus4

Quote from: Flint1979 on March 26, 2020, 09:11:49 PM
I-75 does the same thing in Florida with I-275 going through Tampa and St. Petersburg and I-75 doing the bypassing.
In the past 30 years, I-85 and I-40 were both re-routed on new location to -bypass- Greensboro and Winston-Salem, NC respectively, with the original routings going through the urban areas.

Flint1979

Quote from: sprjus4 on March 26, 2020, 09:24:13 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 26, 2020, 09:11:49 PM
I-75 does the same thing in Florida with I-275 going through Tampa and St. Petersburg and I-75 doing the bypassing.
In the past 30 years, I-85 and I-40 were both re-routed on new location to -bypass- Greensboro and Winston-Salem, NC respectively, with the original routings going through the urban areas.
With all the new interstates in North Carolina I'm lost on what's what anymore lol.

texaskdog


sprjus4

Quote from: Flint1979 on March 26, 2020, 10:10:56 PM
With all the new interstates in North Carolina I'm lost on what's what anymore lol.
I-85 and I-40 were original interstates through Greensboro and Winston-Salem

In 1992, I-40 was routed along a new southern bypass of Winston-Salem, eliminating the designation along the pre-existing freeway closer to Downtown. The old route became I-40 Business, though this year is becoming solely US-421 with the elimination of I-40 Business.

In 2004, I-85 was routed along a new southeastern bypass of Greensboro, eliminating the designation along the pre-existing freeway closer to Downtown. The old route became I-85 Business along with part of it still being I-40 as they had an overlap on the pre-existing alignment.



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