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Olancha-Cartago 4-Lane Project
thsftw:
--- Quote from: Quillz on April 17, 2023, 06:35:48 PM ---Just came back from a weekend trip to the Eastern Sierra. There is pretty decent progress being made. Can clearly see where the bypass around Olancha/Cartago will go. My understanding is 190 will be extended southwest, which means a short portion of it will also be four-lane divided highway.
--- Quote ---I've been watching the progress and watching the residents of Olancha and Cartego fight it for many years. I've made posts in the past about this 4 lane project.
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It's understandable. A bypass will likely take away business. But on the other hand, might relieve traffic because a lot of people aren't stopping there to begin with. There are always pros and cons.
--- Quote ---This project will make US-395 four lanes from Inyokern to Mono Lake.
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This will be technically true but you've still got the massive speed drops in Lone Pine, Independence, Big Pine, and Bishop. Unless all of these are planned to get bypasses, you still get traffic issues.
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I don't think it is technically true, technically only to the 14 split it will be. The other issue is that 14 goes down to 2 lanes right after 178, but that project is starting up soon too and there will be a 4 lane highway from Mono Lake to LA finally.
pderocco:
--- Quote from: thsftw on April 19, 2023, 01:52:40 PM ---
--- Quote from: Quillz on April 17, 2023, 06:35:48 PM ---
--- Quote ---This project will make US-395 four lanes from Inyokern to Mono Lake.
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This will be technically true but you've still got the massive speed drops in Lone Pine, Independence, Big Pine, and Bishop. Unless all of these are planned to get bypasses, you still get traffic issues.
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I don't think it is technically true, technically only to the 14 split it will be.
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I'm not sure what I should call the split location, if not Inyokern. Leliter? Brown? Bradys? Nobody's heard of those.
--- Quote from: thsftw on April 19, 2023, 01:52:40 PM ---The other issue is that 14 goes down to 2 lanes right after 178, but that project is starting up soon too and there will be a 4 lane highway from Mono Lake to LA finally.
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That's the Freeman Gulch project I mentioned in my original post. They seem to be taking their sweet time, even though that's probably the most dangerous part of the trip.
ClassicHasClass:
Oops: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-05-22/caltrans-indigenous-burial-site
"It didn’t take long for a team of highway archaeologists to mark their first find while searching for buried human remains on an aging stretch of U.S. Highway 395 that cuts along the eastern flank of the Sierra Nevada range.
"That alone was enough to concern local tribal leaders, but they went on to hit more bones missed by earlier archaeological surveys required to start construction of a $69.7-million Caltrans project to convert 12.6 miles of 395 from a two-lane road to a safer four-lane expressway.
"State and federal laws prohibit public disclosure of information related to the locations of Native American cultural places to reduce their vulnerability to various types of theft, including grave robbing. But as of last week, tribal leaders say, more than 30 tangled human skeletons had been unearthed at the site near the Inyo County community of Cartago, many of them adorned with artifacts: glass beads, abalone shells and arrowheads."
Sub-Urbanite:
--- Quote from: ClassicHasClass on May 22, 2023, 09:56:23 AM ---Oops: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-05-22/caltrans-indigenous-burial-site
"It didn’t take long for a team of highway archaeologists to mark their first find while searching for buried human remains on an aging stretch of U.S. Highway 395 that cuts along the eastern flank of the Sierra Nevada range.
"That alone was enough to concern local tribal leaders, but they went on to hit more bones missed by earlier archaeological surveys required to start construction of a $69.7-million Caltrans project to convert 12.6 miles of 395 from a two-lane road to a safer four-lane expressway.
"State and federal laws prohibit public disclosure of information related to the locations of Native American cultural places to reduce their vulnerability to various types of theft, including grave robbing. But as of last week, tribal leaders say, more than 30 tangled human skeletons had been unearthed at the site near the Inyo County community of Cartago, many of them adorned with artifacts: glass beads, abalone shells and arrowheads."
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Big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big oops.
This is why you hire archaeologists and why you make sure they actually know what they're doing?
Inyomono395:
This is gonna alter and delay the entire project. So frustrating! I've been waiting for this section to be four laned for YEARS!
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