A major bus crash on the California Arizona border I-10

[bing101]

http://abc7.com/news/4-killed-in-bus-crash-near-arizona-border/71009/

[agentsteel53]

The semi-truck was trying to pass a slower car. When the driver pulled over to the left, the wheels caught on the dirt and jackknifed into a median, CHP officials said.

idiot goddamn truckers.  how do you fuck up a basic act like "overtake on a two-lane carriageway without leaving the bounds of said carriageway"?

[Brandon]

The semi-truck was trying to pass a slower car. When the driver pulled over to the left, the wheels caught on the dirt and jackknifed into a median, CHP officials said.

idiot goddamn truckers.  how do you fuck up a basic act like "overtake on a two-lane carriageway without leaving the bounds of said carriageway"?

Could be like the asshole who tried to pass me on the 4 foot left shoulder after I left the Nashville meet back in March.  I was about ready to move back into the right when he flew up behind me and started to pass me (no signal, no flash of lights) on the left shoulder.  Last I saw, he did a 720 and wound up in the median.

[sdmichael]

I see way too many truckers driving poorly for me to really believe the whole "professional driver" crap. They get paid for it... that is about the extent of the professional driver aspect. Reminds me of the "Not responsible for broken windshields" signs on gravel trucks. Nope - everyone is responsible for debris falling off their vehicle.

[agentsteel53]

Could be like the asshole who tried to pass me on the 4 foot left shoulder after I left the Nashville meet back in March.  I was about ready to move back into the right when he flew up behind me and started to pass me (no signal, no flash of lights) on the left shoulder.  Last I saw, he did a 720 and wound up in the median.

heh.  I had a guy in a fake mustang cobra (cobra decals on a V6) try to pass me in the gravel median once because 95mph was too slow for him.  he blew two tires; rocketed back across the lanes in front of me, and came within 6 feet of getting ended by the truck in the right lane that I was passing.

[hm insulators]

I see way too many truckers driving poorly for me to really believe the whole "professional driver" crap. They get paid for it... that is about the extent of the professional driver aspect. Reminds me of the "Not responsible for broken windshields" signs on gravel trucks. Nope - everyone is responsible for debris falling off their vehicle.

You're right...look at all the supposedly "professional" truck drivers that keep slamming into that 11'8"-high railroad overcrossing in North Carolina.