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How widespread is Clearview in Canada?
« on: August 17, 2017, 07:39:36 AM »

I noticed on the Northeast board (Pennsylvania thread) a photo posted for a Clearview-signed airport exit in Montreal.

Beyond that, to what extent has Canada gotten on the Clearview bandwagon?

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Re: How widespread is Clearview in Canada?
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2017, 09:56:35 AM »

About all of the nation now uses Clearview, as shown by the map below:



Now compare this to the US, where only 14 states and DC have not yet switched over (and most likely never will, if the FHWA has indeed rescinded its original approval):



In MB, there's this example for the middle of the nation, in terms of longitude:

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Re: How widespread is Clearview in Canada?
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2017, 07:23:06 PM »

FYI, Oregon should probably be changed over to yellow (Uses FHWA; Clearview seen at municipal level).  Portland is all aboard the Clearview train, at least with the blade signs, and weirdly enough, I've recently been seeing ODOT use it (contrary to how it had been approved) in all caps on orange construction signs.
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Re: How widespread is Clearview in Canada?
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2017, 09:19:21 PM »

NC uses Clearview on surface streets for some attractions
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Re: How widespread is Clearview in Canada?
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2017, 09:25:06 PM »

Iowa needs to be changed to the color blue.
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Re: How widespread is Clearview in Canada?
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2017, 10:56:01 PM »

New Mexico should also be changed to yellow, since District 5 (Santa Fe) used Clearview, as well as the City of Rio Rancho and Los Alamos County.
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Re: How widespread is Clearview in Canada?
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2017, 11:14:53 PM »

Maybe this should be moved to the Canada board?

Everything in the map is correct, except for maybe Nunavut since there are not really any signs there pretty much.

I have seen no change here in Manitoba.
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Re: How widespread is Clearview in Canada?
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2017, 12:10:47 PM »

Inaccuracies in the map:  ID and SD both stick to the FHWA alphabet series, and unless they have changed radically in the past five years or so, so does WV.  The yellow category probably should be expanded to include use on turnpikes (e.g., Kansas Turnpike) or in select experimental locations on state highway systems (e.g., I-10 weigh station signing in California; I-80/I-580 signing in Reno, Nevada; Legacy Parkway in Utah).

The states I am aware of that have committed to Clearview throughout their entire state highway systems are very much in the minority.  They are (asterisk indicates recent construction plans, available online, indicate Clearview is leaving the plan production pipeline):  AK*, AZ*, TX, OK*, ND, IA*, AR*, LA, IL, MI (MDOT has announced phaseout but this is not yet evident in advertised plans), OH*, PA*, MD*, VA, KY, SC, VT, and DE, or 18 out of the 50, going down to 10 out of 50 if states for which phaseout has been confirmed are excluded.  I expect the number of such states to increase because, depending on how plan production works in a given state DOT, appearance or disappearance of a given typeface family from advertised plans is an indicator that lags quite a bit.
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Re: How widespread is Clearview in Canada?
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2017, 01:04:18 PM »

Inaccuracies in the map:  ID and SD both stick to the FHWA alphabet series, and unless they have changed radically in the past five years or so, so does WV.  The yellow category probably should be expanded to include use on turnpikes (e.g., Kansas Turnpike) or in select experimental locations on state highway systems (e.g., I-10 weigh station signing in California; I-80/I-580 signing in Reno, Nevada; Legacy Parkway in Utah).

FYI: Clearview is only in use on I-580, and was only used on signs that were erected/replaced as part of the US 395 northbound widening project that was completed several years ago. Other more recent sporadic sign replacements along other parts of I-580 have used FHWA series (and upgraded sheeting allowing light fixtures to be removed). I-80 in Reno/Sparks is all FHWA series.

With that said, there are some local agencies that have used Clearview on signage. Most notably, Reno has used it on some backlit street name signs (but they're also installing these with FHWA series as well).
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Re: How widespread is Clearview in Canada?
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2017, 03:57:04 PM »

Inaccuracies in the map:  ID and SD both stick to the FHWA alphabet series, and unless they have changed radically in the past five years or so, so does WV.  The yellow category probably should be expanded to include use on turnpikes (e.g., Kansas Turnpike) or in select experimental locations on state highway systems (e.g., I-10 weigh station signing in California; I-80/I-580 signing in Reno, Nevada; Legacy Parkway in Utah).

The states I am aware of that have committed to Clearview throughout their entire state highway systems are very much in the minority.  They are (asterisk indicates recent construction plans, available online, indicate Clearview is leaving the plan production pipeline):  AK*, AZ*, TX, OK*, ND, IA*, AR*, LA, IL, MI (MDOT has announced phaseout but this is not yet evident in advertised plans), OH*, PA*, MD*, VA, KY, SC, VT, and DE, or 18 out of the 50, going down to 10 out of 50 if states for which phaseout has been confirmed are excluded.  I expect the number of such states to increase because, depending on how plan production works in a given state DOT, appearance or disappearance of a given typeface family from advertised plans is an indicator that lags quite a bit.
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WV uses Clearview. 
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