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Southern Beltway - PA Tpk 576

Started by CanesFan27, January 26, 2010, 07:28:18 PM

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GreenLanternCorps

Southern Beltway not showing as open yet in Google Maps, which is par for the course given how long it took for the I-49 Bella Vista Bypass in Arkansas/Missouri to get marked and correctly labeled.


GreenLanternCorps

PA 576 now showing as open on Google Maps

JoeP2

So when does the 79 to Mon Fayette leg start....?


rickmastfan67

Quote from: JoeP2 on October 26, 2021, 01:08:08 PM
So when does the 79 to Mon Fayette leg start....?

In the year 3000..... :bigass:

But seriously, I don't think there's any concrete year for it to be started.

JoeP2

Quote from: rickmastfan67 on October 27, 2021, 12:33:27 AM
Quote from: JoeP2 on October 26, 2021, 01:08:08 PM
So when does the 79 to Mon Fayette leg start....?

In the year 3000..... :bigass:

But seriously, I don't think there's any concrete year for it to be started.

"Concrete" eh? No pun intended right?

:-D

tylert120

So I drove the new portion Southern Beltway today and noticed none of the on ramps have yield signs. Were these purposely omitted for some strange reason?

I-55

Quote from: tylert120 on October 29, 2021, 12:23:02 AM
So I drove the new portion Southern Beltway today and noticed none of the on ramps have yield signs. Were these purposely omitted for some strange reason?

Everywhere I've been there's no yield sign when the ramp feeds into an auxiliary lane. In instances where the ramp feeds directly into a travel lane then a yield sign is warranted. I'd imagine that the auxiliary lanes are long enough that a yield sign isn't required. (Unless signing a yield even with a modest auxiliary lane is a PA thing I'm not accustomed to).
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Crown Victoria

Quote from: I-55 on October 29, 2021, 11:43:24 AM
Quote from: tylert120 on October 29, 2021, 12:23:02 AM
So I drove the new portion Southern Beltway today and noticed none of the on ramps have yield signs. Were these purposely omitted for some strange reason?

Everywhere I've been there's no yield sign when the ramp feeds into an auxiliary lane. In instances where the ramp feeds directly into a travel lane then a yield sign is warranted. I'd imagine that the auxiliary lanes are long enough that a yield sign isn't required. (Unless signing a yield even with a modest auxiliary lane is a PA thing I'm not accustomed to).

A quick look around on Google Maps at various Turnpike and non-Turnpike interchanges shows that older interchanges with shorter acceleration lanes have yield signs, while newer construction with longer acceleration lanes don't.

I-81 in Carlisle (no yield): https://www.google.com/maps/@40.198098,-77.1591307,3a,75y,65.12h,99.07t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svMn_VVpn12ywVpGRoprKPw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

PA Turnpike Carlisle interchange (no yield): https://www.google.com/maps/@40.2278876,-77.1564192,3a,75y,301.05h,100.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCe0p1cQK4yjRlmT4IQFV7Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

PA Turnpike Fort Littleton interchange (yield sign present): https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0508985,-77.9598533,3a,75y,187.73h,87.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZdCYv20AG762v4Why-Kt4g!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

I-78 Exit 19 (yield sign present): https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4999837,-76.1834804,3a,75y,77.42h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHfTMCi0pMIOEq59jo7KfCQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DHfTMCi0pMIOEq59jo7KfCQ%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D77.418106%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

I-78 Exit 35 (PA 143) with a stop sign, present before the current reconstruction began just east of here: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5767467,-75.8895216,3a,75y,75.11h,79.41t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sBzcKUPSJHQFDjpe30Xkphg!2e0!5s20090701T000000!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

MASTERNC

#133
I've been told by family that local access from Morganza Road has been opened, as is the WB ramp to I-79 north

Sounds like it opened Monday. Access to Morganza Road (EB) and the rest of I-79 will be open by June.

https://www.patpconstruction.com/southern_beltway/22to79/pdf/2021-12-20%20Traffic%20Advisory-More%20Ramp%20Connections%20with%20PA%20Turnpike%20576%20to%20Open%20in%20Washington%20and%20Allegheny%20Counties.pdf

Bitmapped

One thing that annoys me about how PTC built the new I-79 interchange is that the ramp from I-79 NB to PaTP 576 westbound will be a left lane merge when the next segment is built: https://www.patpconstruction.com/southern_beltway/images/55c2-1/Overall%20Exhibit%20250.pdf Aside from bypass ends, I'm hard-pressed to think of other cases of left lane merges like this being built on new construction recently.

rickmastfan67

Quote from: MASTERNC on December 22, 2021, 01:08:16 PM
I've been told by family that local access from Morganza Road has been opened, as is the WB ramp to I-79 north

Thanks for the heads up, I'll update OSM with this info. :)

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SkyPesos

Somewhat random question: why is it numbered as an x76 when it doesn't meet I-76, instead of an x79 like PA/(I-) 379 or 479 as it directly meets I-79? Since this is numbered like a 3di (and I've heard that it's intended for it to be an interstate in the future), I thought that 3-digit child routes branching off a "3di" with the same parent 2di is only allowed when it doesn't meet any other 2di.

Hot Rod Hootenanny

Quote from: SkyPesos on January 25, 2022, 02:14:24 PM
Somewhat random question: why is it numbered as an x76 when it doesn't meet I-76, instead of an x79 like PA/(I-) 379 or 479 as it directly meets I-79? Since this is numbered like a 3di (and I've heard that it's intended for it to be an interstate in the future), I thought that 3-digit child routes branching off a "3di" with the same parent 2di is only allowed when it doesn't meet any other 2di.

You mean like I-278, I-495, I-678 around New York? Or maybe I-280, I-380, I-980, around San Fran & Oakland? Or maybe I-105 in Los Angeles.
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triplemultiplex

What's interesting is PA gave it 576 long before they extended I-376 past the airport and on north to I-80.  Suggests either they thought it would connect to the turnpike to the east of Pittsburgh, OR they had the I-376 extension in the pipeline long before we heard about it.
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The Ghostbuster

I know that construction on PA 43's northern extension may start this year, but does anyone see PA 576 being extended to PA 43 anytime within the next decade?

Mr_Northside

Quote from: triplemultiplex on January 27, 2022, 01:32:37 PM
What's interesting is PA gave it 576 long before they extended I-376 past the airport and on north to I-80.  Suggests either they thought it would connect to the turnpike to the east of Pittsburgh, OR they had the I-376 extension in the pipeline long before we heard about it.

I'm pretty sure it was that the I-376 extension was already in the pipeline.... that was something that was in the works in some form for some time before they passed a law to make it happen.

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on January 27, 2022, 03:27:01 PM
I know that construction on PA 43's northern extension may start this year, but does anyone see PA 576 being extended to PA 43 anytime within the next decade?

Within the next decade.................. Maybe.   I wouldn't bet a single cent on it happening at all this decade.
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MASTERNC

Sounds like the remaining ramps open Friday.  There's some residual work on I-79 left.  Note they added space for a third lane northbound, which was not originally planned, but would be in preparation for widening further north around Bridgeville.

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/transportation/2022/06/19/southern-beltway-mon-fayette-expressway-pennsylvania-turnpike/stories/202206160141

ARMOURERERIC

I may have asked before, is there a website to monitor to see when the first Mon Fayette sections go out to bid.

The Ghostbuster


MASTERNC

Drove the new interchange in both directions. It was amazing they built loop ramps with a 45 MPH advisory speed

tylert120

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on June 21, 2022, 07:01:57 PM
Now if they can just give us a date on when 576 will be extended to PA 43.
2099 +/- 5 years



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