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Started by peterj920, March 25, 2016, 03:40:14 AM

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briantroutman

This intersection on US 15 at PA 304 in Winfield used to have an upward facing arrow outline over the green light until about 2010, but for some reason, it was removed.

On the other hand, this intersection at US 220 and PA 287 near Jersey Shore has always (to my recollection) had a standard green ball despite the fact that the through lanes never go red.


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jay8g

These pedestrian signals are always on walk.

Here's another example at a non-signalized intersection, in Hoquiam.

paulthemapguy

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The Ashland, KY/OH bridge across the Ohio River has an interesting pseudo-interchange.  WB traffic on US52 doesn't have to stop at the intersection, and EB traffic doesn't have to stop because it goes under the bridge.  This permanent green arrow is for the WB traffic

https://goo.gl/maps/v6iP69YmroF2

Another example is NB IL50 where it splits off the Governor's Highway (Old US54) at a marginal angle to the left.  https://goo.gl/maps/oyGfTUfshjt
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jakeroot

Quote from: Bruce on March 26, 2016, 12:31:53 AM
Very popular in seagull intersections, like this one in Everett, Washington:

The South Sound has quite a few...

31 Ave SW @ S Meridian in Puyallup: https://goo.gl/oJZNON

S 38 St @ I-5 in Tacoma: https://goo.gl/uLN3eS

S Sprague Ave @ WA-16 in Tacoma: https://goo.gl/Huqavh

S Orchard St @ WA-16 in Tacoma: https://goo.gl/HzwdZe

W Valley Hwy @ WA-167 in Sumner: https://goo.gl/XtTzWC

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US-30 Westbound at the Northwest edge of Portland, OR

https://goo.gl/maps/FLWTb7fXQd72

Sidenote; since this streetview picture was taken, the sign on the gantry has been destroyed by a tanker truck catching on fire!

jeffandnicole

DE 2, Kirkwood Hwy, in front of a shopping center. Even though there's a road coming in from the right, they simply have a stop sign.

https://goo.gl/maps/4vXzkmNCkST2

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On CT 10 northbound in Plainville, CT.  Only not green is when it's blinking yellow

https://goo.gl/maps/5oSFVfdMCqF2
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tdindy88

Indianapolis has a variation of this at the ramp from westbound Southport Road to northbound Interstate 65.

https://goo.gl/maps/croFzJGZJmr

The light was added when the ramp from northbound 65 to Southport became a signalized intersection but in any case it has always been a ramp from one road onto the freeway, no need to stop traffic at all, especially with the concrete median separating the road from the ramp. What's funny is that when this ramp was closed a few times last year due to construction, the light remained green (even with road closed barriers in front.)

jeffandnicole

A location that *should* have an eternal green light is here: https://goo.gl/maps/wz65x9wfLf62  Even though the ramp is barrier separated from the other lanes and has no stop line or bar, occasionally you'll get the car that'll stop because the other lights are red.

paulthemapguy

Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 28, 2016, 08:37:40 AM
A location that *should* have an eternal green light is here: https://goo.gl/maps/wz65x9wfLf62  Even though the ramp is barrier separated from the other lanes and has no stop line or bar, occasionally you'll get the car that'll stop because the other lights are red.

I totally agree with this- there's a mast arm right there on the right anyway!  Just make it a dual mast arm and put a one-section head on there, and you're done!
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Two I know of in Illinois are at Lake Street heading west at the I-294 NB entrance. There's one at Rockland Road heading east at the SB I-94 Entrance.

I've seen more around Illinois but I don't remember their locations.

Ian

Quote from: Rothman on March 25, 2016, 11:58:51 AM
I'm surprised I wasn't beaten to the punch on this one (Western Ave WB to Northway):

https://goo.gl/maps/UfJmWGqfkUq

Actually, I also like that intersection from this angle.  We really do not want you to enter!

https://goo.gl/maps/X7U27UHsArQ2

I always wondered about this intersection seeing as I used to have family nearby in Voorheesville. Are you sure those lights never go red? There's signals facing the shopping center off to the right plus a crosswalk going across the ramp, so I figure it would go red at SOME point.

As for other eternal green lights, here's another one along PA 291 (Bartram Avenue) at the I-95 southbound onramp near the Philadelphia Airport.
https://goo.gl/maps/VwZnaJji2V62

And here are some eternal green arrow beacons along US 13 northbound at the DE 1 northbound onramp near St. Georges, DE.
https://goo.gl/maps/j4rwm9mspWU2
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Quote from: paulthemapguy on March 28, 2016, 09:19:44 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on March 28, 2016, 08:37:40 AM
A location that *should* have an eternal green light is here: https://goo.gl/maps/wz65x9wfLf62  Even though the ramp is barrier separated from the other lanes and has no stop line or bar, occasionally you'll get the car that'll stop because the other lights are red.

I totally agree with this- there's a mast arm right there on the right anyway!  Just make it a dual mast arm and put a one-section head on there, and you're done!

I think some bollards or a railing might do the trick as well.

Rothman

Quote from: Ian on March 28, 2016, 01:48:11 PM
Quote from: Rothman on March 25, 2016, 11:58:51 AM
I'm surprised I wasn't beaten to the punch on this one (Western Ave WB to Northway):

https://goo.gl/maps/UfJmWGqfkUq

Actually, I also like that intersection from this angle.  We really do not want you to enter!

https://goo.gl/maps/X7U27UHsArQ2

I always wondered about this intersection seeing as I used to have family nearby in Voorheesville. Are you sure those lights never go red? There's signals facing the shopping center off to the right plus a crosswalk going across the ramp, so I figure it would go red at SOME point.

Go figure.  So much for that.  I've driven through there a thousand times and they're never red. :D

https://goo.gl/maps/LtqpVM6H8CP2
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In Ann Arbor, WB Washtenaw Ave at Stadium Blvd.

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Here's a few in Alabama:
Huntsville:
Meridian Street & US 72:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7608131,-86.5754394,3a,66.8y,24.02h,92.66t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1ssyu6j0A4iNDARwDTjGycLQ!2e0
Univeristy Drive (US 72) & Research Park Boulevard (AL 255):
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.741476,-86.6683364,3a,66.8y,104.02h,93.81t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4ABgjglFc7UXapiYHvXVSg!2e0
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7426177,-86.6717162,3a,66.8y,263.19h,86.87t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1setnTcXda6DZjL-y2_owfOg!2e0
Williams Ave, Echoles Ave, Adams Street, and McClung Ave (the green arrow on the bottom here is always on):
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7295885,-86.580288,3a,55.4y,85.07h,87.18t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sWeUDbBd6IO8oBtGEf3aGAA!2e0

Decatur:
Moulton Street & Gordan Drive:
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.6040178,-86.9952082,3a,55.4y,87.14h,89.6t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sYuUSAb_70uLq1vJqO8KtZw!2e0

Florence:
Dr. Hicks Boulevard and Tennessee Street (both here are US 72):
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.8037976,-87.6674391,3a,23.7y,264.63h,91.62t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s3aWiuqVani4bWZahPN6Hpg!2e0

Vestavia Hills has many along US 280:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4212411,-86.6966885,3a,55.4y,286.83h,91.48t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sGijEvQqoDZfjQGRegESeHw!2e0
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4373993,-86.722018,3a,55.4y,299.4h,92.25t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sXq1hgR2lnoFuzpfsC-CsiQ!2e0
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4408904,-86.7278182,3a,55.4y,305.26h,88.89t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sThksoOMeqQhKQUZxXUrVUg!2e0
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4597837,-86.7537971,3a,55.4y,108.68h,90.89t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s93poVQAXaGABWhO_oxkm2g!2e0
The intersection that caused ALDOT to adopt the FYA signal:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4647996,-86.7572651,3a,66.8y,166.74h,89.38t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s-xIvVWuNS-yWD1JalmqYUw!2e0
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.4710468,-86.7617121,3a,66.8y,101.01h,93.42t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stRdR7fJzhLhQoCAGU3-peg!2e0
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Quote from: bzakharin on March 28, 2016, 04:03:38 PM
And then there's the eternal red for right turns (only the left arrow has yellow and green phases):
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9370855,-74.9699092,3a,15y,58.18h,90.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1stEyEX3EJyJNhXz9RTA3Jcw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e1!6m1!1e1
How common are those?

They used to be more common but have generally been phased out over the years.  I never knew NJ had one of these lights.

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I remember one (it's probably still there) on westbound Valley Blvd. at the north end of I-710 in Los Angeles.
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paulthemapguy

Some Illinois examples of the perpetual right turn arrow.

https://goo.gl/maps/88Bn2Bh4UZq
https://goo.gl/maps/cyFU1F1fZdm

These two below are viewed from the side, because the signals face a stretch of road that isn't updated on GSV:

https://goo.gl/maps/FKZvCXyt4vr
https://goo.gl/maps/9XPJTzms2Sn
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CT 9 NB at "Exit 15" in Middletown....

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.56317,-72.6477774,3a,75y,324.32h,78.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEFusx7SzqaTHQJDjeQrMxw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Thru traffic never gets anything but a green light here, as there is no NB entrance at this location.


For the "this light never turns green" comment, CT has several traffic lights at entrances to fire stations.  The signals will flash yellow for thru traffic.  In the event of an emergency requiring fire/ambulance, the signals will turn red, stopping thru traffic.  After the emergency equipment has entered the roadway and cleared, the signal would resume to flashing yellow.  Here's an example of one on CT 17 in Durham - there was another one a mile up the road as well: 

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4679903,-72.6795473,3a,78.2y,338.54h,91.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYO3xoBwpS3yb4bnlGDKFWQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Hard to tell, but the bottom balls on each signal flash yellow.  And for some reason, the state/town/whoever hasn't replaced the dead yellow light... it's been that way for more than a couple years.

peterj920

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For the "this light never turns green" comment, CT has several traffic lights at entrances to fire stations.  The signals will flash yellow for thru traffic.  In the event of an emergency requiring fire/ambulance, the signals will turn red, stopping thru traffic.  After the emergency equipment has entered the roadway and cleared, the signal would resume to flashing yellow.  Here's an example of one on CT 17 in Durham - there was another one a mile up the road as well: 

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4679903,-72.6795473,3a,78.2y,338.54h,91.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYO3xoBwpS3yb4bnlGDKFWQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Hard to tell, but the bottom balls on each signal flash yellow.  And for some reason, the state/town/whoever hasn't replaced the dead yellow light... it's been that way for more than a couple years.

Ashwaubenon, WI has signals that flash yellow also in front of their fire station unless emergency crews need to leave

https://www.google.com/maps/place/2101-2155+Holmgren+Way,+Ashwaubenon,+WI+54304/@44.4919327,-88.0575087,3a,66.8y,19.64h,85.92t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1svCTXcy7hyarAhOYvwBkt_A!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x8802fbac3fec388b:0x7bca236b69ec76b6

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