This is like the first time I remember it snowing before winter in San Angelo, Tx. It wasn't even just a little flakes here and there it was like a Texas blizzard! :happy:
It snowed about two inches, but where was I? Oh I was at school until 3:45 and by that time just about ALL the snow was gone... So now I have to wait until the next time it snows... And who knows when that will be...
Heres the pictures I took at 6:30 AM
http://picasaweb.google.com/bigmatt30000/Snow?feat=directlink
BigMatt
It was an historic early snowfall. It even reached Houston and Louisiana.
Meanwhile, Montana has wind chills in the -40's.
QuoteThis is like the first time I remember it snowing before winter in San Angelo, Tx.
It may not be "official" winter, but it is "meteorological" winter...
I've seen the snow fall as early as October and as late as May. Snow in early December would be of no surprise here in Upstate New York.
Quote from: dougtone on December 05, 2009, 08:08:36 AM
Snow in early December would be of no surprise here in Upstate New York.
Well, it probably is in Houston, which is at the same latitude as Cairo, Egypt.
Oklahoma got nothing.
I really wouldn't be that supprised if it snowed later in the winter...
BigMatt
Quote from: Chris on December 05, 2009, 09:27:46 AMWell, it probably is in Houston, which is at the same latitude as Cairo, Egypt.
Since when is latitude an absolute guide to temperature? The climates at Cairo and Houston are different.
That said, snow in Houston is rather rare.
No snow here at 51.5 North and we've only had one frost, let alone any snow. That North Atlantic Drift keeps our winters warm (though wet) and sadly we get little snow and are unable to deal with it if we get it as it's also rare.
Ah I love the snow, as well as the late fall, winter season. One of the reasons why I like the area where I live :cool:
There's an inch of snow on the grown here in SW Wisconsin. That's about to change by at least +12 inches Tuesday night :|
There's even a blizzard warning at the IA-MN border. The whole area between Arizona and Michigan is in winter conditions.
There's no snow here at the moment. It's been mild here compared to last winter.
Iowa:
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN DES MOINES HAS ISSUED A BLIZZARD WARNING...
SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF 10 TO 14 INCHES ARE ANTICIPATED FOR MUCH OF CENTRAL IOWA. THE BEST THREAT FOR RECEIVING OVER A FOOT OF SNOW IS GENERALLY SOUTH OF HIGHWAY 20. ISOLATED AMOUNTS UP TO 16 INCHES ARE FORECAST FROM EAST OF DES MOINES TO SOUTH OF WATERLOO.
SIGNIFICANT TRAVEL CONCERNS ARE EXPECTED WITH THIS DANGEROUS WINTER STORM...ESPECIALLY DURING THE AFTERNOON HOURS AND TOWARDS RUSH HOUR TONIGHT. IN ADDITION TO THE HEAVY SNOW ACCUMULATING ON ROADWAYS...VERY STRONG NORTH TO NORTHWEST WINDS WILL CAUSE SIGNIFICANT BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW AND WHITEOUT CONDITIONS LATE TONIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY...LEADING TO THE POTENTIAL FOR MAJOR TRAVEL IMPACTS AND ROAD CLOSURES. SNOW DRIFTS OF 8 TO 15 FEET ARE POSSIBLE BY WEDNESDAY.
And more blizzard warnings get issued as we go along. in Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Missouri and Nebraska
TONIGHT...PARTLY CLOUDY. COLDER. LOWS AROUND 14. WEST WINDS 15 TO 20 MPH.
So speaketh NWS Norman. OK generally gets one winter weather event per year. Looks like this will not be the time this year. Only chance of snow on the forecast is a 20% chance of precip, either rain or snow, on Friday night.
It is winter in Kansas, according to KDOT's 511 site:
http://511.ksdot.org/KanRoadPublic_VE/Default.aspx
Turnpike is slushy all the way from Oklahoma to Topeka, and roads north of Topeka and the I-70 corridor (including parts of I-70 in the Flint Hills) have ice and packed snow. Conditions are especially bad around Atchison.
An old friend of mine who lives in Topeka is running a betting pool on her Facebook page. She thinks there will be 6" accumulation, and there are guesses ranging from 1 1/2" up to 12" (the latter admittedly not very serious).
There was some talk of accumulation in Metro Atlanta, but I've seen none. It's just been raining quite a bit.
Be well,
Bryant
I spotted some good pics of snow in Houston at http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=176410
http://www.511ia.org/roadConditions.asp?area=IA_statewide&textOnly=False (http://www.511ia.org/roadConditions.asp?area=IA_statewide&textOnly=False)
Travel is not advised for most of Iowa. Nearly all roads are snow-packed.
Quote from: Chris on December 09, 2009, 06:57:17 AM
http://www.511ia.org/roadConditions.asp?area=IA_statewide&textOnly=False (http://www.511ia.org/roadConditions.asp?area=IA_statewide&textOnly=False)
Travel is not advised for most of Iowa. Nearly all roads are snow-packed.
Was out that way yesterday (well, near it, in the Quad Cities) at 4:00pm. The freezing rain (and sleet) was coming down very hard. In fact, most everyone was either turned away from the wind (oddly from the east) or had a hood up to protect their face from it. Wound up leaving there about 4:15pm and got back to Joliet (about 130 miles away) at 6:45pm. I-80 was very slushy from the Quads through Atkinson (Exit 27) and slippery until Spring Valley. Then the problem was the wind until Morris, after which it got slushy again (but not as bad as before).
Consider yourself lucky.
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 05, 2009, 10:30:07 AM
Oklahoma got nothing.
Except for some freezing rain.
It's supposed to get down to 10 tonight. I'm not planning on going outside unless I have to.
Interstate 90 in Pennsylvania was closed, there is heavy lake effect snow in that area. Some areas around Erie may receive over 2 feet of snow.
Quote from: Chris on December 11, 2009, 11:33:43 AM
Interstate 90 in Pennsylvania was closed, there is heavy lake effect snow in that area. Some areas around Erie may receive over 2 feet of snow.
Also see this thread (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=2096.msg45670). :-(
No snow here, but it's brutal (freezing)!
Quote from: Hellfighter on December 11, 2009, 04:53:37 PM
No snow here, but it's brutal (freezing)!
Same here. The low this morning was in the low to mid teens. That's unseasonably cold for Middle TN in December. (Though we do often get that low in January and February.)
And here now its 52 degrees... I hope it gets cooler.
BigMatt
Still never seen snow in my life yet.....the snow missed me by more than 200 miles.
Northern Montana:
QuoteWIND CHILLS OF LESS THAN TO 20 BELOW ZERO ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP BY THE LATE AFTERNOON HOURS BEFORE DROPPING AS LOW AS 50 BELOW OVERNIGHT.
I took this on New Years Day in 2008 in Lake George, NY:
http://picasaweb.google.com/Iansignal/NewYorkTrafficSignalsAndRoadSigns#5308425115500220418
Its too cold here to get much snow. It probably wont snow here anymore until January, its going to be so cold here.
Right now, we only have about 3 inches.
Quote from: Chris on December 11, 2009, 11:33:43 AMInterstate 90 in Pennsylvania was closed, there is heavy lake effect snow in that area. Some areas around Erie may receive over 2 feet of snow.
Interstate 86 was also closed from 90 to Stow, NY (http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091211/NEWS02/312119874/).
Quote from: un1 on December 12, 2009, 07:48:54 PMRight now, we only have about 3 inches.
What do you mean ONLY 3 inches? We're lucky to get that much once each year. A light dusting is what we normally get.
On the other side of the Atlantic we typically get at least a foot by the end of December.
Not snow, but ice this morning caused a lot of problems across Pennsylvania from Pittsburgh (http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/weather/21956275/detail.html) across the Alleghenies (http://www.wjactv.com/news/21955263/detail.html) to the Mid-State (http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/246252) then north to Allentown (http://wfmz.com/view/?id=1313715) and the Poconos (http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091213/NEWS/912139999/).
Even the Secretary of Transportation could not avoid being affected (http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/21956224/detail.html) by the ice.
Quote from: Truvelo on December 13, 2009, 12:10:13 PM
Quote from: un1 on December 12, 2009, 07:48:54 PMRight now, we only have about 3 inches.
What do you mean ONLY 3 inches? We're lucky to get that much once each year. A light dusting is what we normally get.
LOL! In some areas of the US, usually in the norther tier of states around the Great Lakes, 3 inches is considered a snow flurry. Where I went to college in Houghton, Michigan (Michigan Tech), we usually saw in the neighborhood of 200 inches of snow in a season. My first winter up there saw over 300 inches of snow for the season.
Where I am near Chicago now, we see about 40 inches per year.
If I remember right, un1 lives upwind of the lake (northwest side - Thunder Bay, ON). no effect by lake effect.
Wikithevia notes that TB gets 74 in per year. (187.6 cm for you metric fans)
There are many years in the Netherlands where we don't even accumulate 3 inches before it melts away again. Darn you maritime climate!
Quote from: PAHighways on December 13, 2009, 02:35:59 PM
Not snow, but ice this morning caused a lot of problems across Pennsylvania from Pittsburgh (http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/weather/21956275/detail.html) across the Alleghenies (http://www.wjactv.com/news/21955263/detail.html) to the Mid-State (http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/246252) then north to Allentown (http://wfmz.com/view/?id=1313715) and the Poconos (http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091213/NEWS/912139999/).
Even the Secretary of Transportation could not avoid being affected (http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/21956224/detail.html) by the ice.
And I'll argue that the ice is worse to drive in than snow. Ice is definitely something I try to avoid.
Quote from: Master son on December 14, 2009, 12:35:45 AM
If I remember right, un1 lives upwind of the lake (northwest side - Thunder Bay, ON). no effect by lake effect.
Yep, you're right, in my whole life we've only got lake effect snow once (no clue how though..)
However, by saying only, last year at this time we got 20 inches, somehow we didn't have permanent snow up here until after December 2nd, which was the date of last years huge snowstorm.
The only large snowstorms we get are Alberta Clippers, and Colorado Lows, which are common, but never large and so far this year we've only gotten one snowstorm, it wasn't that big.
The 74 inches you noted, we get most of it in January, February and March when it isn't as cold.
Quote from: Chris on December 14, 2009, 04:19:44 AM
There are many years in the Netherlands where we don't even accumulate 3 inches before it melts away again. Darn you maritime climate!
I shouldn't have said that, 10 inches fell overnight and there's more to come.
We got the traffic jam from hell, there was over 2,000 miles of traffic congestion on our highways. (normally about 200 miles).
Quote from: Chris on December 17, 2009, 03:13:28 AM
We got the traffic jam from hell, there was over 2,000 miles of traffic congestion on our highways. (normally about 200 miles).
Gosh, if that happened here that would mean our entire motorway network being gridlocked.
This was at 7 am.
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Traffic jams: (just the top 15 or so, there were over 500 reports of traffic jams) :-o
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Wow, some people had been vertraging for 95 minutes! I'm guessing since the road is too congested to rage horizontally, you have to rage vertically, and satellites time it from high above and post it to that website.
Confused Scott? :-D
Some parts of the UK had a few inches of snow last night.
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We're expecting anywhere from 6-12 inches tonight through Sunday morning. A good way to muck up travel and shopping on the last weekend before Christmas...
It looks like we'll miss out on the nuts and bolts of this storm in Binghamton, but we may get a trace amount of snow. It's ok though, since we get enough snow as it is in the course of an average winter.
Quote from: froggie on December 18, 2009, 07:09:48 AM
We're expecting anywhere from 6-12 inches tonight through Sunday morning. A good way to muck up travel and shopping on the last weekend before Christmas...
Down here in the Richmond area we're supposed to have at least 6 inches but some predictions go up to over 20 inches.
Quote from: dougtone on December 18, 2009, 07:11:39 AM
It looks like we'll miss out on the nuts and bolts of this storm in Binghamton, but we may get a trace amount of snow. It's ok though, since we get enough snow as it is in the course of an average winter.
Up in Greater Nashville, the rain main turn into something frozen (freezing rain, sleet, etc.) overnight, but the road and the grounds are warm enough it shouldn't be too much inconvenience.
A blizzard warning is in effect for Long Island, New York State.
As the nor'easter trends further north and west, the NWS puts my town at 6-12. Most of Virginia through DC and Maryland up to Philly is reallly in the 12-24 range.
Winter Weather Advisory for most of the area around me which will probably at most get three inches, but my county is under a Winter Storm Warning with near six inches possible especially in the Chestnut and Laurel Ridges that slice through the eastern part.
Fair and 54 here. I don't want to trade.
40's and rain/drizzle here (FL panhandle). If its going to be this cold and damp I'd just soon have snow! Born & raised in Dover, DE, been in FL 28 yrs. I still miss those good ole Northeasters. Lived waaay out in the country, a storm like this usually meant 2-3 days snowed in if it snows & blows, ahh good times!! :)
Quote from: Truvelo on December 18, 2009, 06:37:38 AM
Some parts of the UK had a few inches of snow last night.
There was also half an inch on Wednesday and Thursday as well as the 4 to 6 inches falling Thursday/Friday night in the Chilterns. They have been a bit hit and miss at when and how much will fall. For instance, we were meant to have more snow tonight, but only a light dusting has occurred so far.
A big problem is that there's quite a bit of water and slush that formed as people walked/drove over the snow today and as the sun melted it - this will refreeze tonight and make the roads very dangerous with black ice.
I found this video on YouTube...
BigMatt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzsCvhXs9iY
Quote from: yanksfan6129 on December 18, 2009, 04:40:43 PM
As the nor'easter trends further north and west, the NWS puts my town at 6-12. Most of Virginia through DC and Maryland up to Philly is reallly in the 12-24 range.
I'm only at 4-6 inches. We live 5 miles apart...
Quote from: AlpsROADS on December 19, 2009, 02:05:09 AM
Quote from: yanksfan6129 on December 18, 2009, 04:40:43 PM
As the nor'easter trends further north and west, the NWS puts my town at 6-12. Most of Virginia through DC and Maryland up to Philly is reallly in the 12-24 range.
I'm only at 4-6 inches. We live 5 miles apart...
I'm at 6-12 IIRC, but I'm in the mountains...
Alps, I don't know whatchu talkin' 'bout, Parsippany (from NWS) is: 3-5 during the day today, 3-5 tonight. Same in my town.
Just measured 5" in my front yard, with likely much more to go.
Just went out to measure and unofficially six inches with the snow still coming down. When I was out earlier this evening, the state and township routes were clear and passable but city streets left a lot to be desired.
Winter Weather Warning for entire Turnpike System (http://www.paturnpike.com/rttc/advisoryinfo.aspx?ID=127175)
Speeds Reduced on I-78, I-80, I-81, I-380, US 22 and PA 33 Due to Winter Weather (http://www.dot.state.pa.us/penndot/Districts/District5.nsf/e5da4aa0433a25af852571f400537d15/b5ae83be1e98cd67852576910077ba92?OpenDocument)
Just measured 8" outside my home. If this low continues its stall, we could be looking at 10" to 16" where I live!
I only got about 4 inches of snow total! Screw you Weather Channel!
I ended up with the 8 I measured last night
16.3 officially at DCA. Anywhere from 15-20 across most of the DC area.
Quote from: froggie on December 20, 2009, 11:58:51 AM
16.3 officially at DCA. Anywhere from 15-20 across most of the DC area.
Irony department...
From Diplomatic Storm to Snowstorm (http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/politics/2009/12/19/diplomatic-storm-snow-storm)
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The Eastern U.S. prepared for a harsh winter storm Saturday, as forecasts called for up to 20 inches of snow across the region, including Washington, Baltimore, Philadelphia and reaching up to New York -- even affecting President Obama's travel plans after a contentious climate change summit in Denmark.
I'm not making any kind of political statement for or against global warming/climate change here as an individual day does not prove or disprove any theories regarding climate.
Quote from: mightyace on December 21, 2009, 01:35:14 AM
I'm not making any kind of political statement for or against global warming/climate change here as an individual day does not prove or disprove any theories regarding climate.
a week ago it was a giant blue spiral when he went to Norway - and now, this. quick, Barry, visit a bunch of countries - I want to see what's next!
Oklahoma could possibly get three inches or so on Christmas Eve. White Christmases are pretty rare here, so this might be fun.
The Richmond Airport got around 7 inches. Down here in Prince George it was more around 3-5 inches.
The Netherlands range from about 8 inches (my town) up to two feet.
Again, any accumulation over 2 - 3 inches is rare in this country.
took half an hour to do about 1.5 miles just now - snow's coming down quite heavily (we had about 4inches on Saturday and about one so far tonight, making there being about 6 inches of snow on the ground at the moment, where it hasn't been touched - some melted and it's settled and shrunk) and the gritters hadn't been along that (main) road. There was a lot of melt water that'll freeze later tonight, making dangerous conditions worse.
London is pretty gridlocked and this is the most pre-Christmas snow there for a great many years. Eurostar's trains have been screwed for the last few days (none running, 55000 people stuck on one side of the channel or the other) as a bit of snow got into the electrics of one train and melted, causing it to fail.
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 21, 2009, 10:38:04 AM
Oklahoma could possibly get three inches or so on Christmas Eve. White Christmases are pretty rare here, so this might be fun.
I'm flying out of Oklahoma the day before it's supposed to start getting cold. Unfortunately, where I'm going the forecast is for an ice storm on Christmas day...
I'm less than 100 miles from English Si and there's less than 1 inch on the ground which fell on Saturday night. We've had no further snow since then but it's the cold temperatures that's causing it to remain.
We got our first large snowstorm of the year here, about 4 inches, now he have about 7.
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Drove through a lot of snow between Springfield, IL and the Quad Cities the other day.
Exit A? Where's Exit AA? :happy:
Lots of freezing rain right now. They're saying up to 6 in of snow (in addition to the ice)
Having just driven down the east coast, mainly along I-95, a few days after the big mid Atlantic storm, it's safe to say that the DC area is not built for or equipped for the kind of snow they had. Side roads were completely untouched by plows and were a deep snow/ice pack with deep ruts and snowbanks were left in some very inconvenient places even on the Beltway. It looks like the sound walls are sometimes built so close to the side of the road that there's no place to put the snow except on the shoulder or part of the right lane. There seems to be little effort to clear shoulders even in places that the space exists to push the snow aside. I'm glad I didn't have to try to get through that area any sooner after the storm passed.
There was still some snow on the sides of the roads as far south as Emporia, Virginia. I was hoping there'd still be some in North Carolina but not quite. The snow cover was definitely the most impressive in the immediate DC area.
Beltway actually wasn't that bad...some of the on/off-ramps were (and in 2 cases still are) a pain, but the mainline lanes themselves have been fine since Sunday afternoon, at least in my quadrant of the Beltway.
Concur on the side streets/roads.
Curious where you were where you think the soundwalls are built so close to the side of the road. I haven't noticed anything like that except some locations within the District itself.
Quote from: froggie on December 24, 2009, 09:01:10 PM
Beltway actually wasn't that bad...some of the on/off-ramps were (and in 2 cases still are) a pain, but the mainline lanes themselves have been fine since Sunday afternoon, at least in my quadrant of the Beltway.
We did the western half on Tuesday night (I-95 North to 267) and Wednesday morning (267 to I-95 South). The problems on the Beltway were mainly at ramps, where snow was left in the triangle between the mainline and a ramp that seemed to fall or get knocked around at times.
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Curious where you were where you think the soundwalls are built so close to the side of the road. I haven't noticed anything like that except some locations within the District itself.
I am thinking of areas near the I-270 junction, but maybe those weren't sound walls. It just seemed that there was no place to push the snow, so it was right up against the white line in the right lane.
Oklahoma just got clobbered. Western Oklahoma got up to a foot, Oklahoma City got around six inches. There's a rather impressive snowbank against the structure that my apartments' mailboxes are in. I ran out there to drop my Internet bill in the outgoing mail box and sank up to my knees in the stuff. OHP has much of the Oklahoma City interstate system shut down and the Governor has declared a state of emergency. I decided to call in to work...they had two employees dedicated just to processing call-ins.
This is what salt does to porous asphalt concrete + heavy traffic:
A28, Zwolle, NL
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I don't think that's salt so much as it is a drainage failure, which is the primary cause of potholes.
In that last picture appears to be a half hearted attempt at fixing it :pan:
Quote from: Truvelo on December 29, 2009, 01:11:19 PM
In that last picture appears to be a half hearted attempt at fixing it :pan:
Yes, they are repairing those holes all day long, there are road closures every day. The problem is the foundation of this road is messed up real bad, so they'd have to replace the entire roadway, not just the top layer. They temporarily fix it now, but a few hours later, the hole is there again. At some places, the shoulder looks like a dirt road, with all the asphalt debris there.
In 3 months, this road will be subject to widening from 6 to 8 lanes, all problems will be gone then.
The problems will last this winter though, they forecast major snowfall tonight and icebox temperatures during the coming week or so.
It can't be as bad as what I saw when driving along this road in Minnesota. The workers were pouring loose asphalt into potholes. All it does is cause clattering and banging when driving over it and I'm sure the rental car company really likes their cars returning full of stone chips.
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Nice photo...which route?
I can't stand this miserably cold weather. :(
59 degrees this afternoon in my area of South Texas, and 63 tomorrow, though a bit milder on Thursday and Friday in the mid 70s.
Summer, please get here fast....can't wait to see 100s again.
heh, I am the exact opposite - anything over 55 and I want to claw my skin off! 59 being miserably cold? I keep my room at 56 on the thermostat, and wear a jacket indoors in the winter ;)
a few weeks ago I was at -33 in the Cascades in Oregon and perfectly comfortable. Absolutely no wind, and the clearest skies I have ever seen in my life... (beats US-85 in South Dakota, 6100 feet at -11 degrees) ... I took a few pictures, added oil to my car as needed, and kept on driving!
then a couple days later, -17 but with wind ... - wind chill -68 at Macdonald Pass in Montana. Now THAT was cold!!!! Had to hold the tripod down to take a 20 second exposure of Helena, Montana off to the east...
Quote from: froggie on December 29, 2009, 08:21:38 PM
Nice photo...which route?
According to the EXIF this picture was taken 3 minutes earlier and it also shows loose asphalt.
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Ah yes. Earlier in the decade, MnDOT District 6 put most of their eggs in the rebuilding-52-thru-Rochester basket, and the rest of the District's roads (including MN 16) are suffering somewhat as a result. It doesn't help that the Root River valley (where your photos are) gets wet and occasionally flooded, which just compounds the pothole problem.
Mind if I snag those photos for my Minnesota pages?
Quote from: froggie on December 30, 2009, 09:59:37 AM
Mind if I snag those photos for my Minnesota pages?
I have plenty of others if you want them, I'll upload them to my site and give you the URL so you can choose which ones you want. Just give me an hour or so...
We had some snow again in Zwolle, the Netherlands. Maybe 1 or 2 inches. Not that much, but at least it's white.
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Froggie, I've sent you a private message with the URL of the MN16 pictures.
We also had about an inch here last night but it's raining now and is melting.
Quote from: Chris on December 29, 2009, 11:58:13 AM
This is what salt does to porous asphalt concrete + heavy traffic:
Nice, this is how 50% of Hamburg's street currently look like, and many of those WITHOUT the heavy traffic. Man, I wish we would use better asphalt that doesn't crack so easily, but alas that asphalt is not "green", so no chance of that being used...
Feels great to be back to normal again....made it to 80 degrees on New Years Eve and looking at 79 on New Years Day.
There was 2" of snow in Bloomsburg on New Year's Eve.
Winter Weather Advisory where I live, but other counties under a Winter Storm Watch, until 6 PM Sunday.
Currently in Norman the temperature is 27 with a 40% chance of snow tomorrow night. The next chance of snow after that is a slight chance on Tuesday night.
It's been pretty cold since last week's blizzard, so it still hasn't all melted yet. Roads are OK but everything else is wet and muddy.
Portland got hit with an inch or two the 29th. Probably going to be the only major snow this season for us, dammit.
But as usual, the metro area as a whole couldn't deal with it-- cars were abandoned in the travel lanes on the Sunset (US 26)...
Drove through the mountains near Somerset, PA today. Couple inches on the ground and it was blowing like crazy.
About 5 inches fell this evening in my city: Zwolle, NL
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what does the caption mean underneath the exclamation-point sign?
I thought Europe was striving to be language-independent in their warning signs, but "!" doesn't tell me very much, other than I should watch out. What am I watching out for? A curve? A railroad track? A half-bear half-shark half-alligator creature?
It says "with frost and rain". Apparently, this cyclist tunnel gets slippery then.
dang! I had been hoping for the third option!
Where I live is OK with just hard frosts each night but further north the snow is really thick like this article (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/6925487/Snow-continues-to-cause-chaos-across-Britain.html) shows.
Quote from: njroadhorse on January 02, 2010, 04:36:07 PMDrove through the mountains near Somerset, PA today. Couple inches on the ground and it was blowing like crazy.
It was doing the same down here on the "lowlands" next door, especially around 6 PM.
Ran into lake effect snow in Northeast Ohio Saturday and Sunday. Light snow/flurries to Columbus and from Cincinnati to just north of Nashville yesterday and today. No appreciable accumulation but temperatures into the teens! (~ -10 C)
Lake effect kept me from attending the Detroit road meet. (would have had to drive right through it)
Quote from: Master son on January 04, 2010, 04:52:39 PM
Lake effect kept me from attending the Detroit road meet. (would have had to drive right through it)
Yeah, you were better off without it. The closest I came were "snow squalls" hitting the Barrie area, but besides reduced visibility it wasn't covering up the remaining tire tracks on the 400 and I was still able to move at 80-110 km/h. I had far too many hours driving in those tracks, though...
Burlington, VT was the "big winner" this weekend. 33.1 inches at the NWS office there...
We've just had snow this morning. It's about 2 inches which seems tame compared to that in Vermont.
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Because, when going to TESCOs late on Sunday Afternoon (about an hour and a half before it closed) and there was little bread, I went down just now to get some more. They had very little bread - some rolls and some stuff from the in-store bakery.
At first I thought this was because of a delivery that hadn't come. But then I saw a near-empty fresh meat aisle, no fresh milk on the shelves and finally no bananas. Talking to staff, I found out that it's because of panic buying - odd that it was perishables, but I guess it was "I won't be able to get that stuff for a couple of days, and my old stuff will go off/run out before I can get some more", especially given that milk and bread are fairly staple foods (the meat's a bit more odd and bananas are the most popular fruit). The tinned food aisle was well-stocked, and didn't look like it had recently been refreshed. I guess we're really not used to possible snow-ins.
The Met office, as an extreme weather warning for Buckinghamshire and Berkshire, suggests 6-12 inches, perhaps 16 inches in places over the next 24 hours (the snowfall ends Wednesday night). That said, having watched the London weather report, Slough and that area will get it bad, but we'll miss out on the really heavy stuff - perhaps 8 or 9 inches, so, like last time, about a day of stoppage and a few days of problems. I'll be surprised if you wouldn't be able to walk to a smaller shop (if not TESCOs) to buy bread and milk (not that they'll have them now) on Thursday. Driving would be slow, but not ridiculously dangerous, by Thursday evening, given what happened a couple of weeks ago.
We're scheduled to get our FOURTH significant (>1 inch) snowfall of the year tomorrow night. We've had more snow the last month than we usually get all winter. And there's still ice on some roads from the first snowfall.
Quote from: english si on January 05, 2010, 01:51:54 PM
Talking to staff, I found out that it's because of panic buying - odd that it was perishables, but I guess it was "I won't be able to get that stuff for a couple of days, and my old stuff will go off/run out before I can get some more", especially given that milk and bread are fairly staple foods (the meat's a bit more odd and bananas are the most popular fruit).
The exact same things happens here in Middle Tennessee! :banghead: :pan: We have a couple of inches forecast for Wednesday night/Thursday morning so I expect to see the same here soon. Though I had no trouble getting milk last night. (I actually NEEDED it after being away from home for two weeks.)
meanwhile here in northeast New Mexico (elevation 6800) we would have maybe 15-20 inches of snow by the New Year ... we got one 4" event in late October, and an inch two nights ago. Gimme back my snow, ya bastards!
Here in Birmingham, we are expecting one to two inches Thursday. A day when I have to be at school until late that night.
we have 2-3 inches now, though the snow is predicted to keep falling (I reckon we'll end up with about 6-8 inches). Oddly, Luton Airport is reopened, which means that they don't see a huge snow threat today, though no schools in the area are open, because of problems on the roads and getting there.
The blunt instrument of the extreme weather warning strikes again - the M4 corridor has been hit with 8 inches, so a few Bucks villages have had what was predicted for the county. However it fails to take notice that the county, while definitely not the biggest, has a set of hills running through the middle causing about three different climates (north of the hills, on the hills, the small bit of Bucks south of the hills which got lots of snow).
The biggest problem is places have run out of grit, due to having to spread it for either snow or ice or both for the last 10 weeks.
I'm trying to remember if the Met office said anything about the winter we were going to have. After their 'Barbecue summer' prediction for hot and dry weather was almost universally laughed at (we had a wet summer), they probably kept silent. I know that they said that this year would be the hottest year on record - so far it's not looking good with large parts of Europe and North America under a big cold snap. I guess the climate change activists could (though oddly they haven't been that vocal so far) spin it as 'extreme' weather, but that's so vague a category that while this would clearly count, fairly average winters get spun as extreme because they are too warm, too wet or too dry and not right on the average.
It snowed again here last night so I grabbed my camera and took this picture. I couldn't be arsed to set up the tripod so I took it handheld at ISO 4000 instead and I'm glad to say the only noise is the falling snow :colorful:
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Quote from: mightyace on January 05, 2010, 06:48:48 PM
Quote from: english si on January 05, 2010, 01:51:54 PM
Talking to staff, I found out that it's because of panic buying - odd that it was perishables, but I guess it was "I won't be able to get that stuff for a couple of days, and my old stuff will go off/run out before I can get some more", especially given that milk and bread are fairly staple foods (the meat's a bit more odd and bananas are the most popular fruit).
The exact same things happens here in Middle Tennessee! :banghead: :pan: We have a couple of inches forecast for Wednesday night/Thursday morning so I expect to see the same here soon. Though I had no trouble getting milk last night. (I actually NEEDED it after being away from home for two weeks.)
It's bizarre behavior, and being from the Upper Midwest, I don't understand it. People in places like Chicago never do this sort of panic buying even when looking at getting a foot or more of snow. We're supposed to see 10 inches during Thursday and Friday, and yet people are pretty calm about it. I expect the snowplows will be busy, and we'll see garbage trucks and other maintenance vehicles pressed into service as snowplows as usual.
Quote from: Master son on January 04, 2010, 04:52:39 PM
Lake effect kept me from attending the Detroit road meet. (would have had to drive right through it)
Always the usual winter hazard on I-94 in NW Indiana and Berrien County, Michigan. I've used the Indiana Toll Road to I-69 or the Toll Road and the Ohio Turnpike to I-75 to avoid some of the worst of it.
Quote from: Brandon on January 06, 2010, 10:58:06 AM
It's bizarre behavior, and being from the Upper Midwest, I don't understand it. People in places like Chicago never do this sort of panic buying even when looking at getting a foot or more of snow. We're supposed to see 10 inches during Thursday and Friday, and yet people are pretty calm about it. I expect the snowplows will be busy, and we'll see garbage trucks and other maintenance vehicles pressed into service as snowplows as usual.
Well having spent the first 30 years of my life in PA, MD and OH; I never ran into it until I moved here. I still don't understand it. The kind of storm that might keep everyone in for a week probably happens here once every 100 years. The only thing that came close is an ice storm in 1994 that turned people's power off for most of a week.
A very slow moving snow shower paralyzed Amsterdam and vicinity, all roads turned into solid ice quickly, and the average speeds on about every road dropped to 2 mph. Delays of over 3 hours were reported on the Amsterdam beltway (A10). Every single road in the area is jammed, reports state over 800 km of traffic jam in just an area of 20 by 20 miles.
This is Amsterdam traffic at 10 pm:
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We are supposed to get up to 1 inch snow here Thursday night into Friday.
Here in Birmingham, no snow yet. I am of course at UAB today. Apparently, people have been buying up generators so that they will not miss the game tonight. ROLL TIDE!
On my way to work - I had trouble getting up a hill, which was very odd since the hill wasn't too steep - maybe some ice under the snow (it snowed 3" overnight) - and my car has stability control so it wouldn't slipslide - Riiight :eyebrow:
We got less than an inch here in greater Nashville. A few side roads were snow covered but that's about it.
The schools were still closed though.. :pan:
Quote from: mightyace on January 07, 2010, 04:22:29 PM
We got less than an inch here in greater Nashville. A few side roads were snow covered but that's about it.
The schools were still closed though.. :pan:
Hit the panic button too early!
oh wait...
Here we basically got a dusting and all schools around here went in two hours late.
Here are two videos showing the effects of the wintry mix in Metro Atlanta.
Ice Storm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT4jHswRnAI)
Wintry Weather (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJrNv3H4MZ8)
Be well,
Bryant
I've just heard that there's been a fatal accident involving a jacknifed truck and a bus on I-70 near Springfield, OH. This is a stretch I drive each November but which has been ice-free whenever I've used it.
Last night in parts of Scotland it went down to -22'C (-7'F) which is as cold as the south pole :cool:
The Netherlands today:
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^^ Wow! There's a lot of snow there.
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This morning, on the ramp from I-285 West to I-85 North, there was a 28-car pile-up. The ramp is very sharp and tight and there was a lot of black ice on the road.
Be well,
Bryant
Wow crazy, there's even a wind chill advisory for the southern tip of Florida :D
Quote from: Truvelo on January 08, 2010, 03:45:34 PM
Last night in parts of Scotland it went down to -22'C (-7'F) which is as cold as the south pole :cool:
Yes, but it's the middle of summer at the South Pole! :sombrero:
Chris: that looks like a MODIS image...
There's a MODIS view of the UK on this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/8447023.stm) page.
Quote from: Truvelo on January 08, 2010, 05:54:19 PM
There's a MODIS view of the UK on this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/8447023.stm) page.
Man, seeing all of the island as white is strange, astounding, unbelievable ...
It's been snowing here since New Year's. The last time there was no measurable snowfall was December 30, 2009.
Snow Has PennDOT Crews Working Long Hours, Days (http://www.wpxi.com/news/22187506/detail.html)
They have issued a "weather alarm" (sounds a bit panicky, weather warning would be a better term) for northern Netherlands for blowing snow. I just did a little trip in my city, there is horizontal snowfall, but the intensity is not very high, so it's still driveable. Annoying are those people who drive the speed of walking on a major road that has just a thin layer of snow.
Quote from: Chris on January 09, 2010, 03:17:55 PMAnnoying are those people who drive the speed of walking on a major road that has just a thin layer of snow.
Bad weather has a habit of doing that to people. 'Enjoyed' a 200-mile trip today from Hamburg to the North Sea coast and back, and while there were a few snow drifts on parts of the roads, the Autobahn was pretty much either snow-free or with just a dusting of snow, yet at times people were driving as slow as 40 (kilometers, not miles) - really, if you're that f'n scared of driving in snow, stay at home or take a train.
And don't even make question how drivers manage to constantly go panic-braking behind a crew of cleaning vehicles that do a constant 40 kph. Is it that f'nv hard to keep your speed at a constant 40 as well without braking all the time? Geez...
Quote from: Chris on January 09, 2010, 03:17:55 PMAnnoying are those people who drive the speed of walking on a major road that has just a thin layer of snow.
Sometime it's hard to tell if it is just a thin layer of snow, or if there is ice lurking underneath. As the saying goes, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."
Then you have the other end of the spectrum (http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/weather/2010/01/08/von.atlanta.icy.roads.wxia.html).
This was Autobahn A20 in Germany:
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I took a walk on the ice.
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^^ Wow! What we have here in Metro Atlanta's nothing (lol).
Be well,
Bryant
Quote from: PAHighways on January 10, 2010, 02:40:38 PM
Then you have the other end of the spectrum (http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/weather/2010/01/08/von.atlanta.icy.roads.wxia.html).
It's questionable if people in Atlanta can drive under normal conditions. It also appears as if GDOT still has yet to hear about this new-fangled thing called road salt and sand.
Quote from: Chris on January 10, 2010, 03:31:28 PM
This was Autobahn A20 in Germany:
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Nothing a couple of snowplows couldn't solve within a couple of hours (starting from that).
Maybe I've been babied a bit by the snowplow crews here in Chicagoland and up north, in Michigan's UP, but I can't see why snow is anything to freak out over. Driving in it can be done, and done well as long as a steady hand is kept on the wheel.
I was in Mississippi two days ago and there was a light dusting north of about Kosciusko. It got down to 13 degrees F in Tupelo!
Snowstorms in Europe happen so rarely that 1) the drivers can't drive in snow and 2) they aren't prepared for it, at all. (since it would be a waste of money to prepare for snowstorms that happen once in 20 years)
Here, we got a bit of snow, about a foot of it now, still no where near our record for this time of year.
Quote from: Brandon on January 11, 2010, 02:55:18 PM
Nothing a couple of snowplows couldn't solve within a couple of hours (starting from that).
The main problem on that Autobahn were near-hurricane force gusting (11 beaufort). If you plow the road, another snow dune will follow so quick you can't plow against that, especially in a sparsely populated area like northeastern Germany that doesn't have as much snowplows as central and southern Germany.
QuoteSnowstorms in Europe happen so rarely that 1) the drivers can't drive in snow and 2) they aren't prepared for it, at all. (since it would be a waste of money to prepare for snowstorms that happen once in 20 years)
It depends on which part of Europe. Significant accumulation is common every winter in Germany, and anything east and north of that. However, the amount of snow we saw in the Netherlands, or in France and Britain is highly unusual, especially for such a long period. Last year gave us maybe 3 days of significant snow accumulation that melts away the next day, so very few people take the effort and investment of winter tires.
QuoteThe main problem on that Autobahn were near-hurricane force gusting (11 beaufort). If you plow the road, another snow dune will follow so quick you can't plow against that, especially in a sparsely populated area like northeastern Germany that doesn't have as much snowplows as central and southern Germany.
It's for similar reasons why you commonly see the Plains and Rockies states shut down Interstates during snowstorms. Often, it's not that the plows can't keep up with the falling snow....instead, they can't keep up with the blowing snow. All it takes is about 25 MPH or so of sustained wind to keep the snowdunes piling up.
We're not seeing snow in South Texas (thank god), but here is what we are experiencing this long national holiday weekend.
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Still no significant amount of snow here... it's driving me insane.
Boy, northern Arizona got hammered with snow this week! Thursday night, ADOT had to close I-40 all the way between Kingman and Winslow, plus a good portion of I-17 between Phoenix and Flagstaff.
Wow, I didn't realize Arizona got so cold. Last February it was well into the 70's on one of the days I was there when I took this picture.
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I assume northern parts of AZ must be at higher elevations then?
Flagstaff is at an elevation of 6,910 ft (2,106 m).
Quote from: Truvelo on January 23, 2010, 06:51:37 PMWow, I didn't realize Arizona got so cold. Last February it was well into the 70's on one of the days I was there when I took this picture.
If you didn't go north of the Mogollon Rim, you would have been fairly unlikely to encounter cold. But in general weather in the interior of the continental US is highly variable in the winter and you have to watch both wind direction and the progression of weather fronts. In Kansas just in the last two months, we had a few days with temperatures above 60° F. and a few days with temperatures below 0° F. Old Kansas saying--"If you don't like the weather now, wait 10 minutes."
"Oklahoma has four seasons–frequently all in the same day."
As I sit and write this, Tennessee is getting blanketed by snow at ice. It looks like an inch or two at the moment and it's coming down steadily, albeit lightly.
Many North Georgia Mountain counties are going to be letting a lot of their kids out of school early today, because of the chance of wintry precipitation.
Be well,
Bryant
I've had to miss two nights of work due to the ice yesterday and snow today. Fortunately I've kept power the whole time.
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 29, 2010, 11:44:38 PM
I've had to miss two nights of work due to the ice yesterday and snow today. Fortunately I've kept power the whole time.
No one absolutely
has to miss work, unless the place of employment is closed or all the ways there become absolutely impassable. I don't think I've ever called in simply on account of weather.
Quote from: rawmustard on January 29, 2010, 11:53:33 PM
No one absolutely has to miss work, unless the place of employment is closed or all the ways there become absolutely impassable. I don't think I've ever called in simply on account of weather.
True.
Though, since my company gave me the option and I work a 2-11 shift, I worked from home today. But, this is as much to stay away from Middle Tennesseans who aren't used to driving in such whether as anything else.
Quote from: rawmustard on January 29, 2010, 11:53:33 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 29, 2010, 11:44:38 PM
I've had to miss two nights of work due to the ice yesterday and snow today. Fortunately I've kept power the whole time.
No one absolutely has to miss work, unless the place of employment is closed or all the ways there become absolutely impassable. I don't think I've ever called in simply on account of weather.
If you can't get out of your driveway, you can't go anywhere.
QuoteNo one absolutely has to miss work, unless the place of employment is closed or all the ways there become absolutely impassable. I don't think I've ever called in simply on account of weather.
You're also in an area where it snows more frequently...
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 29, 2010, 11:44:38 PM
Fortunately I've kept power the whole time.
It seems like the power lines are sensitive infrastructure in the United States. Power outages are quite uncommon in the Netherlands, if an area has no power for like 3 - 4 hours it's already nationwide news. Urban power utilities are always underground, only major power lines are above the ground between power plants and other facilities to distribute power. I can't even remember the last time we went off the grid for more than the blink of the eye.
I must add that we don't have as much natural disasters like in the U.S. Many people on this side of the pond forget that, we don't have ice storms, hurricanes, tornadoes and other extreme weather as much. Tornadoes over EF-1 are VERY rare in Europe.
QuoteUrban power utilities are always underground
Here's the crux of the matter. The vast majority of power utilities are above ground in the US. Very little of it is below ground. Combine that with the weather you mentioned, and there's your answer.
My area is getting snow right now and of course it happens after mid-terms and on the weekend.
Quote from: froggie on January 30, 2010, 09:16:06 AM
Here's the crux of the matter. The vast majority of power utilities are above ground in the US. Very little of it is below ground. Combine that with the weather you mentioned, and there's your answer.
Part of it, as it often does, deals with the lower average population density of the US compared to Europe. Also, here in TN, most rural power was built by and is still supplied by the TVA. (which started in the FDR administration in the Great Depression) The project gave electricity to most of the rural south but it was and is done on the cheap.
But, even in Nashville, power goes out a lot more than it did when I lived in Ohio, Pennsylvania or Maryland. I never owned a UPS (battery backup) until a moved south.
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Changing gears, the snow changed to freezing rain overnight and everything outside my house is coated with about a half-inch of ice. Even us northern expatriates try not to go out in this!
how fast do those southern states clear snow? I have to be in Virginia on Tuesday morning, and was planning leaving Florida tomorrow morning and driving back roads (mainly state and county highways). I'm a pretty good snow/ice driver but I'd still like to know what to expect.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 30, 2010, 06:16:39 PM
how fast do those southern states clear snow? I have to be in Virginia on Tuesday morning, and was planning leaving Florida tomorrow morning and driving back roads (mainly state and county highways). I'm a pretty good snow/ice driver but I'd still like to know what to expect.
I can only really speak for TN, but my experience here is that Interstates and other major through routes tend to get the most work. So, just be prepared to switch to the main roads, if necessary. You won't clinch as many highways that way, but you will get there.
Also, the fact that the weather should be sunny and in the high 30s tomorrow and upper 40s Monday will clear up a lot.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on January 30, 2010, 06:16:39 PM
how fast do those southern states clear snow? I have to be in Virginia on Tuesday morning, and was planning leaving Florida tomorrow morning and driving back roads (mainly state and county highways). I'm a pretty good snow/ice driver but I'd still like to know what to expect.
VDOT says that all of the roads will be clear 48 hours after the snow stops but knowing VDOT I wouldn't bet on it.
VDOT typically gets the Interstates and principal arterials clear within a day or two. The secondaries take a bit longer. For Tuesday morning, my suggestion would be to stick to the primary routes within Virginia and avoid the secondaries.
We got some melting here today.
I went out early this evening and the primaries are clear. The secondaries and local roads range from mostly clear to mostly snow covered. The high for tomorrow is supposed to be around 50, so things should get better.
We got about a half inch of ice on Thursday and about 6 inches of snow on Friday. It hasn't gotten above freezing since so it's still a mess, although the main roads are mostly clear.
QuoteVDOT typically gets the Interstates and principal arterials clear within a day or two. The secondaries take a bit longer. For Tuesday morning, my suggestion would be to stick to the primary routes within Virginia and avoid the secondaries.
My philosophy on snow has been that if you're getting enough that roads need to be plowed, it's better to stay on the slightly worse backroad then the plowed main road, since the plowed main road is still going to be slick and you're more likely to have to worry about idiots being idiots- and with less traffic you can drive faster
Quote from: corco on February 01, 2010, 02:20:11 AM
My philosophy on snow has been that if you're getting enough that roads need to be plowed, it's better to stay on the slightly worse backroad then the plowed main road, since the plowed main road is still going to be slick and you're more likely to have to worry about idiots being idiots- and with less traffic you can drive faster
True, but here in TN, at least, it is go on a plowed primary or an unplowed secondary!
Quote from: Chris on January 08, 2010, 04:39:24 PM
Wow crazy, there's even a wind chill advisory for the southern tip of Florida :D
I know it's a bit late to be commenting on this, but we did have sleet down here on January 9th and the weather ticker on the news stated, "Ocala: 31 (degrees) Snow".
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QuoteMy philosophy on snow has been that if you're getting enough that roads need to be plowed, it's better to stay on the slightly worse backroad then the plowed main road, since the plowed main road is still going to be slick and you're more likely to have to worry about idiots being idiots- and with less traffic you can drive faster
This doesn't exactly hold true up here...
Quote from: corco on February 01, 2010, 02:20:11 AM
My philosophy on snow has been that if you're getting enough that roads need to be plowed, it's better to stay on the slightly worse backroad then the plowed main road, since the plowed main road is still going to be slick and you're more likely to have to worry about idiots being idiots- and with less traffic you can drive faster
Not a bad one, but I modify that around there parts. I find that major municipal streets tend to be the best to stick to when the snow flys. Then I follow that up with major county highways, and finally IDOT roads. ISTHA roads tend to be well plowed due to the limited number of miles of the system. IDOT seems to have a very hard time getting back to anything that's not an interstate.
Caught this story while channel surfing last month:
LED Traffic Lights Fail in Snow? (http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/28264428/led-traffic-lights-fail-in-snow.htm)
Quote from: AARoads on February 01, 2010, 12:22:28 PM
Caught this story while channel surfing last month:
LED Traffic Lights Fail in Snow? (http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/28264428/led-traffic-lights-fail-in-snow.htm)
We even had a thread on this (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=2113.0) back then. :biggrin:
In WI the counties are responsible for plowing all highways within their jurisdiction above city level - city crews plow their streets (including highways)
Got about 6 inches of snow outside from this big storm hitting the Northeast. They are still saying we can get *at-least* another 2 inches by tomorrow afternoon.
We got 7 inches in Hampton last saturday ( the southside got more around 9, as did the middle peninsula. Richmond got closer to a foot), a little of which is still here, and they're forecasting another few inches this saturday.
Sigh, the megastorm that is absolutely PUMMELING the area from DC to Philly hasn't given me a single flake, and if I go about 20 miles south, it's a winter wonderland...
No Fair!
Quote from: yanksfan6129 on February 06, 2010, 09:14:10 AM
Sigh, the megastorm that is absolutely PUMMELING the area from DC to Philly hasn't given me a single flake, and if I go about 20 miles south, it's a winter wonderland...
No Fair!
Agreed , ugh these NYC weathermen need to be beat up , they keep playing with our hopes.
What's really unfair is all these big storms ALWAYS going up the east coast. Isn't this Washington's second megastorm this season? What I have yet to see is a 20-inch snowfall here in Indiana. The only place in the state that ever seems to get them is up by South Bend, and even that is in a very limited area. Indy and points east got from eight to ten inches last night, but God for once, I want to see a good 20-inch snowfall. I would love to see the day when Marion County has to issue a snow emergency.
Quote from: tdindy88 on February 06, 2010, 11:09:42 AM
What's really unfair is all these big storms ALWAYS going up the east coast. Isn't this Washington's second megastorm this season? What I have yet to see is a 20-inch snowfall here in Indiana. The only place in the state that ever seems to get them is up by South Bend, and even that is in a very limited area. Indy and points east got from eight to ten inches last night, but God for once, I want to see a good 20-inch snowfall. I would love to see the day when Marion County has to issue a snow emergency.
Don't feel that upset, my county in New Jersey has really gotten the shaft with these snowstorms, too.
Quote from: tdindy88 on February 06, 2010, 11:09:42 AM
What's really unfair is all these big storms ALWAYS going up the east coast. Isn't this Washington's second megastorm this season? What I have yet to see is a 20-inch snowfall here in Indiana. The only place in the state that ever seems to get them is up by South Bend, and even that is in a very limited area. Indy and points east got from eight to ten inches last night, but God for once, I want to see a good 20-inch snowfall. I would love to see the day when Marion County has to issue a snow emergency.
At least you got snow from this storm.
Apparently at my parents' house they're going to get as much as 35 inches of snow from this storm. When I talked to my dad last night they already had two feet.
There's been about 20cm of snow so far here... would have appreciated more. :(
Here in the North Hills of Pittsburgh, our final total came to.......
17.25 inches (they were only predicting 8-12 here)
And according to the news, this was our 4th biggest snowfall ever.
Baltimore got a modest dusting of snow:
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Normally you can't see the yellow sign when driving by because the tree obstructs its view, but today it's visible from the street. That's a tree, not a bush, below the yellow sign. Normally you can walk straight ahead without having any branches in the way. You wouldn't see the knees of an adult standing in the snow today.
We've got some small flurries but nothing like in Decembre...
BigMatt
Of the reports I've seen thus far, top honors goes to Colesville, MD, in eastern Montgomery County, with a report of 40 inches. A large swath of 30+ across Loudoun, Montgomery, Howard, northern Prince Georges, and Anne Arundel Counties.
Dulles reported just under 33, whereas there as just under 18 at DCA (the "Potomac effect", as I'm calling it).
Quote from: tdindy88 on February 06, 2010, 11:09:42 AM
What's really unfair is all these big storms ALWAYS going up the east coast. Isn't this Washington's second megastorm this season? What I have yet to see is a 20-inch snowfall here in Indiana. The only place in the state that ever seems to get them is up by South Bend, and even that is in a very limited area. Indy and points east got from eight to ten inches last night, but God for once, I want to see a good 20-inch snowfall. I would love to see the day when Marion County has to issue a snow emergency.
The reason the east coast gets these mega-storms is a similar reason to why South Bend, IN, Ashtabula, OH, Erie, PA, Buffalo and Rochester, NY get 20" snowstorms. Those cities are all in the lake effect zones of one or more of the great lakes. The air moving over the relatively warm water picks up the moisture and deposits it on the windward shore as snow. The east coast storms or the classic 'Noreaster, have part of the low pressure system off the coast where the rotating winds pick up the warm Gulf Stream water.
My Ant's farm near Philly got almost 3 or 4 feet of snow + she lives on a hill , so now shes stranded. This is the first time in 10 years that a storm has shut down the Northeast Corridor, and other Transit networks (rail) even the Acela is cancelled till Monday :eyebrow:
^^^
Man, that's bad.
The Northeast [rail] Corridor is usually the one mode of transportation that runs when everything else is stopped.
Oklahoma is forecasted to pick up a third snowstorm tomorrow. Most of the time we only get one per year! At least this time it's on one of my days off so I don't have to worry about missing work (thus missing money, which I'm tight on at the moment...)
They are saying we will get another storm here in Pgh on Tuesday Night. Predicting another 6 inches here..........
Chicagoland is bracing for 6-12" (more in NW Indiana) tonight and tomorrow. The plows will be out in force.
Just checked a few daily climate summaries. So far this winter (through midnight last night), DC (as measured at DCA) has seen more snow than Minneapolis, Chicago, Detroit, NYC, Boston, or Portland, ME. And the folks out near Dulles (IAD) have seen more than Buffalo, NY.
I should be grateful I'm not going to see the amounts seen farther east, but I'm still not happy about seeing snow tonight. Especially when IDOT seems to have forgotten to pre-treat parts of I-255.
Can't say I'm happy with accident management in Illinois tonight either; ought to be some sort of advanced warning when a pileup in a cloverleaf has more than the weaving lane blocked. Not pleasant to see a bunch of flashing lights that appear to be across the whole highway and wonder if one is about to take an unplanned tour of the East St. Louis area after dark.
Tennessee is getting hit with another snow/ice combo this evening.
It looks like only an inch or two of snow, but the precipitation is going back and forth between snow, freezing rain, and rain.
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 08, 2010, 11:38:38 PM
I should be grateful I'm not going to see the amounts seen farther east, but I'm still not happy about seeing snow tonight. Especially when IDOT seems to have forgotten to pre-treat parts of I-255.
Can't say I'm happy with accident management in Illinois tonight either; ought to be some sort of advanced warning when a pileup in a cloverleaf has more than the weaving lane blocked. Not pleasant to see a bunch of flashing lights that appear to be across the whole highway and wonder if one is about to take an unplanned tour of the East St. Louis area after dark.
They must do it differently in the Collinsville District. Up here, we have VMSs all over the place, and advance warning is usually pretty good, especially on the Tollways. And District 1 tends not to forget to pretreat the expressway system (nor does ISTHA for that matter).
This morning, I-55 was clear, and I was able to maintain 65-70 mph on wet pavement through Will and DuPage Counties. Traffic was surprisingly good. Skilling must've scared enough people into staying home for the day. :-D
0.5 inch of snow and this is the impact on the Dutch traffic:
(last two columns indicate delays and length of the traffic jam)
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Those are ridiculous delays for such a pathetic amount of snow. Here we've had a light dusting and traffic is moving normally. The sun came out afterwards and started melting it. Last month when we had the really low temperatures the first wave of heavy snow caused mayhem but the second lot of snow a few weeks later caused less trouble because people were prepared for it.
Some people in some countries aren't used snow or even a dusting and think its like rain, but its not. Thus they have accidents. :banghead:
Quote from: Truvelo on February 10, 2010, 01:44:49 PMThose are ridiculous delays for such a pathetic amount of snow.
On four-lane freeways, the left lane becomes almost unused by traffic, many people are afraid to drive on even a thin layer of snow, so such freeways, which often carry between 70,000 and 100,000 AADT are basically reduced to only one lane each way. Add minor accidents to that, and you've got mayhem for dozens of miles in a row. I mean, a 60 mile backup, what's up with that? Such lengths aren't even reached when there is a full road closure.
Another problem is that Dutch freeways are busy for long distances. It's not like in most of the U.S. where you leave the urban area and traffic volumes drop to 20,000 - 30,000 AADT. You can leave Amsterdam, and it's another 80 miles before traffic volumes drop below 50,000. Not because of cross-country commuting, but just because the average Dutch population density is like New Jersey.
Quote from: Brandon on February 09, 2010, 10:47:37 AM
They must do it differently in the Collinsville District. Up here, we have VMSs all over the place, and advance warning is usually pretty good, especially on the Tollways. And District 1 tends not to forget to pretreat the expressway system (nor does ISTHA for that matter).
Unfortunately, there aren't any permanent VMS's on I-255 in Illinois; there should really be at least one SB before I-64 so one knows if the JB Bridge is not the best route to take.
Quote from: Revive 755 on February 08, 2010, 11:38:38 PM
Can't say I'm happy with accident management in Illinois tonight either; ought to be some sort of advanced warning when a pileup in a cloverleaf has more than the weaving lane blocked. Not pleasant to see a bunch of flashing lights that appear to be across the whole highway and wonder if one is about to take an unplanned tour of the East St. Louis area after dark.
I knew East St. Louis was bad, but is it that bad it's not safe to drive there after dark?
Quote from: Nexis4Jersey on February 10, 2010, 01:50:00 PM
Some people in some countries aren't used snow or even a dusting and think its like rain, but its not. Thus they have accidents. :banghead:
Such as Atlanta? :sombrero:
Quote from: Chris on February 10, 2010, 12:39:49 PM
0.5 inch of snow and this is the impact on the Dutch traffic:
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Hideous, IMHO. We got 8-12" yestday and last night, and our traffic is nowhere near as bad.
We have a site just for Chicagoland (and Milwaukee) traffic travel times here for comparison.
http://www.gcmtravel.com/gcm/home.jsp
You can find travel times, speeds, even what is posted on the VMSs.
Quote from: Brandon on February 10, 2010, 04:59:48 PM
Quote from: Nexis4Jersey on February 10, 2010, 01:50:00 PM
Some people in some countries aren't used snow or even a dusting and think its like rain, but its not. Thus they have accidents. :banghead:
Such as Atlanta? :sombrero:
Or Nashville? :pan:
My county is under a blizzard warning until 4 AM EST Thursday.
PennDOT has partially or completely closed I-76 (Schuylkill Expressway), I-78, I-81 (Maryland to I-80), I-83, I-176, I-476 (Blue Route), I-676, and PA 581 and imposed a 45 MPH limit on all Interstates and expressways. I-80 eastbound in Clearfield County is closed due to a pile-up involving 30 tractor-trailers and 20 cars. The Turnpike is congested from Donegal to Blue Mountain due to blizzard conditions and they are advising people to hunker down at a service plaza and wait out the storm rather than risk traveling.
We're either getting loads of snow or loads of rain here on Friday.
Or both.
I'm hoping snow.
Quote from: Stojko on February 10, 2010, 07:44:49 PM
We're either getting loads of snow or loads of rain here on Friday.
Or both.
I'm hoping snow.
I'm in Boston and we're at the extreme north end of this system - we're getting hardly anything, but south of us is getting honest snow. Dunno if the storm will turn northwards later to get NF.
We got another inch or two today (with more possible saturday and monday) and, as usual, people went crazy. There was a 50-car pileup on I-64 (in Williamsburg at Exit 238).
Really Jake? My sister lives in Brookline and says that everyone is hunkering down for a really bad storm.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 10, 2010, 07:50:32 PMI'm in Boston
Do you actually have a place that you call home? :D You're everywhere.
Most of the roads in Frederick County, MD are closed due to blowing/drifting snow, including I-70, US 15, and US 340. Just saw live images of cars stuck/trapped on 15/340 south of Frederick.
And the next storm is poised to drop between 1 and 5" of snow through the Deep South and Gulf Coast states. Many county offices and schools are already closed for tomorrow.
We got a little bit here, probably not even an inch. It's really starting to drive my roommate nuts–she wants to pour concrete to finance a trip to CA next month, but the snow is making that impossible. :ded:
Before today's sun started melting it, my dad said he had 2 feet (24") on his back porch near Bloomsburg, PA.
(I guess it only looks like a 21" now. :sombrero:)
I left Mena, AR this morning and it started snowing a couple of hours later. I didn't see any snow on my way to Tulsa. I missed the Xmas Eve storm in Tulsa because I was in Mena, and I'm missing the storm in Mena tonight because I'm in Tulsa. I'm like the anti-Jim Cantore.
Yesterday's storm dumped 12" at my house. When the plows came and put all the snow on a big pile on my front lawn, my brother and I dug out a nice igloo (technically a quinzhee). Best igloo we've ever built; it's actually quite large
Had about 1.5 feet in Piscataway, and had people around here building igloos too (including other members of my dorm building a large "representation" of the male anatomy). But the plowing of the roads and sidewalks is terrible; I slipped on some ice heading out to a bus stop just this evening and only expect worse things to happen to all the drunks coming home tonight.
Quote from: yanksfan6129 on February 11, 2010, 10:21:41 PM
Yesterday's storm dumped 12" at my house. When the plows came and put all the snow on a big pile on my front lawn, my brother and I dug out a nice igloo (technically a quinzhee). Best igloo we've ever built; it's actually quite large
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^^ Love how you did that (lol).
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I'm producing a snow video of what's coming down where I live in Metro Atlanta, down by Hartsfield-Jackson. Will post it shortly.
Be well,
Bryant
I just can't believe that there are winter weather advisories out for the Florida Panhandle.
How many states have snow on the ground? All but Hawaii?
Someone on Twitter said that.
Quote from: Chris on February 12, 2010, 03:39:19 PM
How many states have snow on the ground? All but Hawaii?
Actually, Hawaii may have snow, too. The Mauna Kea volcano gets snow on it in January and February. And, people do ski on it.
Here's two links:
http://www.bestplaceshawaii.com/island_insights/bigisland/skiing.html
http://www.hawaiisnowskiclub.com/
Quote from: mightyace on February 12, 2010, 04:53:08 PM
Quote from: Chris on February 12, 2010, 03:39:19 PM
How many states have snow on the ground? All but Hawaii?
Actually, Hawaii may have snow, too. The Mauna Kea volcano gets snow on it in January and February. And, people do ski on it.
"Mauna Kea" means "white mountain." The winter snows are how it got its name. The snows can get bad enough to close the road to the summit (only one in Hawaii with snowplow guides).
Mauna Loa (an active volcano almost as high as the dormant Mauna Kea) also sometimes gets snow.
Since there were no flurries down by the beach today (not surprised), I decided to search out the white stuff in lower Alabama. I ran into some rain and snow mix about 10 miles north of Milton, Florida, with it becoming all snow just before hitting the state line. Once in Brewton however, it lightened up and stopped about 20 minutes later on my way to Castleberry. Below are a few road related pictures that I took just to show the snow accumulation:
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Looking east along Conecuh County 6 in Castleberry, approaching U.S. 31.
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Looking westbound along Conecuh County 6 between Castleberry and Interstate 65. There were not many cars on this particular stretch so the road was a bit slushy in places...
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Southbound reassurance marker south of Exit 83 (Conecuh County 6). Surprisingly there was a lot of traffic on this stretch of interstate between Exit 83 and Exit 87. And no amount of snow stopped anyone from traveling at an accelerated speed either...
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Looking southward down Interstate 65 from atop the Alabama 41 overpass at Exit 77. There were vehicles stopped at all ramps at this interchange letting their children play in the snow along the embankments! I did not get a picture of it but there was even a snowman being built on the northbound on-ramp!
On my way back I did catch one incident where a Floridian stopped in the middle of the road, thus delaying those of us behind him, then deciding to turn right to park. When he got off the road he must have gunned it and slid all the way across the ditch to the woodline...typical Floridian not knowing how drive in the snow...
Quote from: florida on February 12, 2010, 04:02:58 PM
Someone on Twitter said that.
I found this AP News Story to confirm that:
49 states dusted with snow; Hawaii's the holdout (http://ttp://m.apnews.com/ap/db_16029/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=Zow8gWDg)
And it acknowledges Hawaii but says there's no snow there at the moment:
QuoteHawaii's 13,800-foot Mauna Kea volcano, which often gets snow much of the year at its higher elevations, is the most likely place in the 50th state to have snow, but there "is nothing right now," said research meteorologist Tiziana Cherubini at the Mauna Kea Weather Center. It has been a few weeks since there has been snow in the mountains, and none is in the forecast, ruining a perfect 50-for-50, she said.
49 of 50 states have snow. Mother nature must hate climate change too!
Quote from: Roadgeek_Adam on February 12, 2010, 08:03:14 PM
49 of 50 states have snow. Mother nature must hate climate change too!
Or perhaps climate change is a gradual trend. Or perhaps because, when it's warmer, more water is evaporated up, the storms are bigger, and because it's winter, snow is being produced instead of rain.
I got plenty of snow here in Birmingham. In fact, when the snow started, I was in Irondale and had to drive in a snowstorm for the 2nd time this year.
Driving in the snow in Metro Atlanta.
Be well,
Bryant
Quote from: florida on February 12, 2010, 03:21:43 PM
I just can't believe that there are winter weather advisories out for the Florida Panhandle.
Its the infamous "cry wolf syndrome". Anytime there is a 2% chance of winter precip the local weather men go IT'S GONNA SNOW, ITS GONNA SNOW!!! :pan: Altho it is unusual to have a WWA. Thursday even the NWS was very optimistically predicting 2-4" north of I 10. :pan:
I was in Ft Walton during the Crestview "snowstorm" :), but the tv news said we had big flakes but it barely stuck to even the grass. We came back to Crestview about 1700 and there was not a trace of snow anywhere. Fooled again!
Quotetypical Floridian not knowing how drive in the snow...
or rain or fog or sunlight... :-D
Did you see the ch10 news from Mobile just before 10am? I guess they broadcast a "special report" on the snow and the anchormen were as giddy as the kids were about the snow.
Hometown newspaper coverage http://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/north-25765-snow-friday.html
We've got 2 inches forecast for tomorrow. And there are still traces of snow that have been on the ground for over 2 weeks. I have never seen this much snow in my life.
Quote from: allniter89 on February 12, 2010, 10:35:13 PM
Its the infamous "cry wolf syndrome". Anytime there is a 2% chance of winter precip the local weather men go IT'S GONNA SNOW, ITS GONNA SNOW!!! :pan: Altho it is unusual to have a WWA. Thursday even the NWS was very optimistically predicting 2-4" north of I 10. :pan:
I was in Ft Walton during the Crestview "snowstorm" :), but the tv news said we had big flakes but it barely stuck to even the grass. We came back to Crestview about 1700 and there was not a trace of snow anywhere. Fooled again!
A Panama City news station website said the snow stuck to the ground in Berrydale and Munson, but they had pictures from Holmes County and DeFuniak Springs where it looked like it accumulated, at least to cover the ground. Either way, I get giddy, too (like the Mobile news reporters), whenever there's a chance for the white stuff this far south. This is the second month in a row that snow has fallen in Florida.
Nothing south of Interstate 10, despite indications that a snow band could move that far south...
I had my fill of snow in Iowa during the holidays, so I was content to not drive north to see snow cover. The drive through Illinois two days after Christmas (https://www.aaroads.com/blog/2010/01/04/snowy-drive-quad-cities-to-paducah/) was enough riding in the snow for me.
Be glad you're not up this way then...
Quote from: Chris on February 12, 2010, 03:39:19 PM
How many states have snow on the ground? All but Hawaii?
Hawai'i gets snow every year on the mountain tops on the Big Island, and some years they see some on Maui. The only state in the Union that does not see snow on any regular basis is Florida.
Another snow video from what The Weather Channel calls "February Fury."
Be well,
Bryant
If you don't want to sit through the above video, here's the photos that are at the end of it.
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Be well,
Bryant
Snow photos continued. Additionally, to view these photos on a larger scale, look at my photos on facebook. The album is entitled "February Fury."
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Be well,
Bryant
Well after this huge snow blizzard that we just got, we may get more snow this week...
Another snow/ice storm has hit Tennessee. The snow accumulation is minor (1-3") but, once again, the mix of temperatures hovering around freezing have combined to put out more ice here.
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Finally added pictures:
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Snow a set on flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mightyace/sets/72157623477033242/)
Some snow flurries earlier this evening, of course I had to drive in it again. :pan:
My county is under a Winter Storm Warning which was to expire this evening at 6 PM, then pushed to tomorrow at 12 PM, and finally to 6 PM Thursday.
I hear Vancouver is in need of snow, and if anyone from the Olympic Committee is reading this, I will sell you some. :)
Quote from: PAHighways on February 16, 2010, 08:16:33 PM
I hear Vancouver is in need of snow, and if anyone from the Olympic Committee is reading this, I will sell you some. :)
Well, Vancouver on average never gets below freezing, and Whistler is still low enough (only 2,200 feet) to be influenced by the nearby ocean. So I can't say I'm that surprised to see there's not enough snow there.
Why was Vancouver given the Olympics if snowfall in the area is unreliable?
Because they put in a bid for it and won.
Quote from: Master son on February 17, 2010, 11:05:42 AM
Because they put in a bid for it and won.
<sarcasm>
By paying larger bribes than the competition.
</sarcasm>
Just like Salt Lake? :P
Quote from: mightyace on February 17, 2010, 08:01:36 PM
Quote from: Master son on February 17, 2010, 11:05:42 AM
Because they put in a bid for it and won.
<sarcasm>
By paying larger bribes than the competition.
</sarcasm>
Just like Rio? :-P
(Yes, I wanted them in Chicago. :angry:)
We've just had another few inches of snow. It's a fairly localized band of snow affecting the central part of England. It's still falling but the flakes are now tiny.
All the snow we got (which isn't much) is melting. :sombrero:
Its almost as hot here as it was in Florida when I went there. :ded:
Quote from: Chris on February 10, 2010, 04:16:07 PM
I knew East St. Louis was bad, but is it that bad it's not safe to drive there after dark?
Given that someone seems to get shot there every day, I'd say not without bulletproof windows. It's at least got such a bad reputation (I can't seem to find a crime map online today to verify this) that it is best avoided period except on the interstates.
Wikipedia:
QuoteEast St. Louis has one of the highest crime rates in the United States. According to FBI's data of 2007, its murder rate hit 101.9 per population of 100,000,
Population is 31,000, so that would make 32 homicides per year. Staggering. The murder rate is 20 times the national average. Other types of crime are also many times the national average, like robbery which is seven times the nat'l average, assault is even 17 times the national average. I say: bulldoze every square feet of it :D
Movie cliche: family stops at a traffic light in East St. Louis, and when it turns green, the car won't move. Then the family sees the thieves walking away with the wheels . . . (I'm pretty sure that appeared in one of the National Lampoon movies, but that gag is too good not to recycle.)
Quote from: Chris on February 19, 2010, 02:20:13 PM
Wikipedia:
QuoteEast St. Louis has one of the highest crime rates in the United States. According to FBI's data of 2007, its murder rate hit 101.9 per population of 100,000,
Population is 31,000, so that would make 32 homicides per year. Staggering. The murder rate is 20 times the national average. Other types of crime are also many times the national average, like robbery which is seven times the nat'l average, assault is even 17 times the national average. I say: bulldoze every square feet of it :D
East Saint Louis is a very sad and tragic story (makes most other cities look good, IMHO). In the 1950s, East Saint Louis was at its height and one of the largest cities in the state with 82,000 people. Due to many factors; white flight, lack of civic leadership, closure of businesses, schools, etc; East Saint Louis lost about 10,000 or so a decade. Metro East, once one of the richer parts of the state, rapidly became one of the poorest parts of the state.
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 19, 2010, 02:38:31 PM
Movie cliche: family stops at a traffic light in East St. Louis, and when it turns green, the car won't move. Then the family sees the thieves walking away with the wheels . . . (I'm pretty sure that appeared in one of the National Lampoon movies, but that gag is too good not to recycle.)
Vacation. Though the car still moves, it's just missing its hubcaps and is covered in graffiti.
It's snowing here right now, school is canceled! :D But San Angelo drivers will prolly find a way to wreck. We've had at least two wrecks this week and both of them were fatal, and niether of them had to do with ice...
I'll get some pictures of the snow soon. (as soon as I find the photograph machine that someone missplaced. :ded: )
Quote from: BigMatt on February 23, 2010, 09:23:16 AM
It's snowing here right now, school is canceled! :D But San Angelo drivers will prolly find a way to wreck. We've had at least two wrecks this week and both of them were fatal, and niether of them had to do with ice...
I'll get some pictures of the snow soon. (as soon as I find the photograph machine that someone missplaced. :ded: )
I just passed through San Angelo yesterday! Then I got stuck in Tucumcari because it snowed here in northeast NM, hard. Only 150 miles from home and I had to stop. But the sun is out so it looks like I can get on my way soon.
Heres the pictures of the first 2010 snow in San Angelo. I know it doesn't look like much but those weeds are kinda high...
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Nice pics.
My county is under yet another winter storm warning this year.
PennDOT, Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission, Pennsylvania State Police Reduce Speed Limit to 45 mph [again] on Interstates in Northeast Pennsylvania (http://www.dot.state.pa.us/penndot/districts/d4news.nsf/fa7602f9709f548985256e97005f6fdb/7086515c83682279852576d500690eb3?OpenDocument)
The forecast for Tulsa tonight and tomorrow morning calls for an inch or two of snow. It's supposed to warm up soon afterward, so it will probably melt quickly. I expect a winter weather advisory to be issued at any time as OKC is already under one.
OKC got an overnight dusting that stuck to cars and such but didn't really accumulate on the pavement. The temperature is already 34 so we're good...for now.
My house is running at about 18-20 inches right now!!!
First East Coast storm in a while where D.C. didn't get dumped on.
East Coast snow delays a groundbreaking in St. Louis:
http://www.thetelegraph.com/news/river-36867-bridge-snowed.html (http://www.thetelegraph.com/news/river-36867-bridge-snowed.html)
4 feet is expected in the Sierra Nevada, with gusting to a freaking 110 mph. Now that's a snow-i-cane!
Only if the sustained winds are 74 MPH or higher...
Daaaum I heard that New York got like 2,000,000,000 feet of snow!!! Well maybe not that much but still, I heard that they got ALOT...
BigMatt
It comes with the territory...literally.
I can't speak for New York, but this has been the snowiest Winter in Pennsylvania in years. I'd have to go back almost 20 years to remember when it seemed like there was a snow storm or Nor'easter hitting us with such frequency as they have been recently.
It has also been the snowiest winter in the Netherlands for at least 4 decades.
Regular winters generate 13 days of snow cover on average. So far we've had... 55 days of snow cover.
Snowed here in Birmingham this morning, just when I was leaving for school. So, I had to drive in the snow yet again. :banghead:
Quote from: jdb1234 on March 02, 2010, 02:28:19 PM
Snowed here in Birmingham this morning.....:banghead:
Not in this Birmingham it didn't. We had bright sunshine and 50 degrees today. Spring has arrived :colorful:
55 here in sunny Union County, where it's actually sunny too.
the snow is melting, so there are large heaps of mud everywhere. One large heap of mud wants into the house. Apparently, when the good lord issued his proclamation that all cats are to be fastidiously clean, some weren't paying much attention...
Snowing again in the Richmond, VA, area again tonight, but so far it hasn't stuck to the roads and it's not supposed to as temperatures are forecasted to remain above freezing
The white stuff's coming down on-and-off here in Hampton too, and is sticking to my car, though not the ground. However temperatures are already only hovering around freezing, and reports are coming in that there is some accumulation in Virginia Beach, Yorktown, and even into North Carolina. The forecasts are calling for 1-2 inches of accumulation over tonight and tomorrow morning.
It's been a while since the last March snowfall that I can recall.
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on March 02, 2010, 11:48:43 PM
The white stuff's coming down on-and-off here in Hampton too, and is sticking to my car, though not the ground. However temperatures are already only hovering around freezing, and reports are coming in that there is some accumulation in Virginia Beach, Yorktown, and even into North Carolina. The forecasts are calling for 1-2 inches of accumulation over tonight and tomorrow morning.
It's been a while since the last March snowfall that I can recall.
That sound a lot like what I saw last night and this morning. The only accumulation that I knew of was on the Cumberland Plateau to the east of here.
QuoteIt's been a while since the last March snowfall that I can recall.
A year ago yesterday? ;)
Quote from: froggie on March 03, 2010, 06:59:38 AM
QuoteIt's been a while since the last March snowfall that I can recall.
A year ago yesterday? ;)
We got snow last year in March? I don't remember that.
Not much on your end, but everyone from Pennsy down to Norfolk got snow on 3/2/09.
It was in the 70s yesterday. Now there's about half an inch of snow on the ground, with much more expected. Such is the way of March in Oklahoma.
Yesterday and today were in the 70s.
However, Monday was in the 40s and 50s where I was (Sevierville and Knoxville, TN) with snow flurries in the morning.
we just got 7 inches here in sunny Union County.
Several inches here in Central & Northern Ohio last night. But it's going to be 50 again in C-bus come tomorrow.
It's been a while since anyone's contributed to this thread so does it mean all the snow has gone? Here we've had no precipitation for over a week and the sun has been extremely strong. Suddenly the garden has come to life and the snow is now but a distant memory - all in the space of a month.
Here in Western PA, I don't count out the possibility of more snow until at least the start of May.
That being said, I'm pretty confident we won't see any more of the white stuff here until the start of next winter.
Quote from: Truvelo on April 22, 2010, 10:27:23 AM
It's been a while since anyone's contributed to this thread so does it mean all the snow has gone? Here we've had no precipitation for over a week and the sun has been extremely strong. Suddenly the garden has come to life and the snow is now but a distant memory - all in the space of a month.
no precipitation - not even volcanic ash? ;)
This weekend, we are expecting the biggest snow event in about 20 years here in Birmingham. Remains to be seen if it actually happens.
The storm that hit the New York area on the night of December 26th was a nasty one. 20 inches or something like that, and windy windy windy. Metro-North was completely shut down all day Monday, the subway was in shambles (some people got stuck on an A train by JFK overnight), and many streets weren't plowed for days. I missed work that Monday on account of it all.
Meanwhile, today we've gotten another 6+ inches up here in Stamford. The roads weren't too bad when I was coming home (early, ~3:30), but my neighborhood hadn't been plowed in a while and was a few inches under. Was still passable, but "fun" nonetheless. Something I learned today: my car has a safety feature that prevents me from overturning the wheel when I start to lose traction. I didn't know that!
Then I attempted to make it up my driveway... yeah, that wasn't happening. I can't clear six inches of snow in my Ford Focus no matter what. So, I ended up parked on the street. On the wrong side, but with all the slipping and sliding I was doing (the street in front of my house is on a hill which I'd eyeball to be about a 10% grade), once I ended up snugly against the first curb I could, I was going to call it good. Of course, I was less up against the curb so much as up against a giant pile of snow from the last storm that was still sitting there, and I had to climb over and get out the passenger side. Then half an hour later the snow plow came by and buried my car.
Looks like I'm digging myself out tomorrow!
It's snowing here again but it's only supposed to be a dusting.
We have a chance of snow from Saturday night through Monday night, with the highest chance being on Sunday night (40%).
No snow in Tucson :-(
Meanwhile, I'm likely the only person within at least 100 miles of here who has a set of studded snow tires sitting in reserve, anxiously awaiting deployment. Patience, good tires. In just two years you'll be in seasonal use again.
There was a bit of a snowfall here this morning, but nothing as major to close school for a day. Tomorrow I head to Harrisburg for the PA Farm Show. There I can go see how much snow they got.
Chance of snow here in the New York metro (and probably the Philly metro too, so rejoice Ian!) on Tuesday night into wednesday. Could be a major storm...I sure hope so (no school! no school! lol)
There's a 40% chance of snow on Tuesday/Wednesday. And the temperature is forecast at 34 degrees. So, don't expect too much out of it.
Monday may be really ugly in metro Atlanta. Two to five inches of snow changing into sleet/freezing rain with temp not getting above freezing. They are already predicting ice accumulation and associated power outages:
http://www.ajc.com/news/snow-ice-to-sock-798617.html
The forecast here in Jackson is kinda tricky. We're likely gonna get a mix of snow, sleet and freezing rain. Don't know how much we're gonna get, though. Perhaps a couple of inches. I don't mind the snow, but I don't want the ice.
Had lots of snow here in metro Detroit last night. My neighborhood pounded by yet another typical brutal Michigan snowstorm.
Looking out my window. Its snowing right now. :coffee:
Sleet and ice here in Birmingham for now. Expecting snow tonight.
Snowfall expected on Tuesday and into Wednesday up here. Snow day? :hyper:
The grass and the streets are heavily coated here in Metro Atlanta.
Be well,
Bryant
Snow started in Middle TN between 10 and 12pm last night.
I had to get about 4-5" of snow off my car this morning to get to work.
The roads are mostly clear and very few people out and about.
I probably would have worked from home except that I was out sick most of last week and was getting a bit stir crazy.
It snowed in Wichita, which gave me a chance at my favorite winter sports activity: shoveling snow. We got about three inches with no ice underlayer and when I shoveled snow just now, temperatures were close to freezing with no wind.
My personal KDOT RWIS camera feed page shows snow coverage all over the state, with a minimum one lane in each direction clear on I-70 except in far western Kansas, with two lanes clear in both directions on Interstates in eastern and central Kansas. Kansas Turnpike RWIS cameras (which--sigh--are all at tollbooths instead of on the open road, with the lone exception of one camera in the Flint Hills) show meltwater instead of ice near toll plazas. I don't think this snow is going to hang around for long.
Yesterday, when the snow first started, the RWIS feed for I-70 milepost 57, which is usually pointed at an overpass, showed a Highway Patrol cruiser responding to a pickup truck which had run off the road and crashed (at low speed, judging from the lack of metal deformation) into the guardrail protecting the median pier. Five minutes later, when I went to reload my RWIS page from a different computer, the image had been replaced by a message reading "Image temporarily unavailable." It might have been a convenient malfunction but I incline to suspect a high degree of coordination between RWIS and law enforcement.
Several Interstates are closed in Georgia: I-20 in Conyers; I-85 in Union City; and I-20 between Fulton Industrial Blvd. and I-285 (West Atlanta).
Be well,
Bryant
Here in Wyandotte, MI, snowfall expected starting Tuesday afternoon and continuing into Wednesday. Would this mean a snow day? :spin: Find out on Wednesday.
Hmm....
QuoteTuesday Night
Snow. Snow accumulation of 4 to 8 inches. Lows in the lower 20s. East winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming northeast 10 to 15 mph after midnight. Chance of snow near 100 percent.
So much for not expecting too much out of it.
Major snowfall as of this writing starting at 1:18 PM EST.
Quote from: mightyace on January 10, 2011, 10:22:33 AM
Snow started in Middle TN between 10 and 12pm last night.
I had to get about 4-5" of snow off my car this morning to get to work.
The roads are mostly clear and very few people out and about.
I probably would have worked from home except that I was out sick most of last week and was getting a bit stir crazy.
The forecast additional snow did not show up in any significant fashion and the roads were clear today, though many schools were still closed.
Public schools in Wichita and surrounding districts had a snow day today, despite being in session yesterday. Main roads were completely clear and the side streets were sufficiently passable that I went for a walk as normal (though I had to shorten my stride on glare ice and walk through one snowdrift). The reason cited for the schools closure was low temperatures (11° F low, 15° F high) combined with wind chills which were considered dangerously low for young children sent out to wait for school buses.
I'm expecting a snow day tomorrow as a major snowstorm approaches the New York area this evening. Yay!
Been off of work since Monday; haven't been outside of my neighborhood since Saturday. The roads are getting better here in Metro Atlanta, although GDOT's going to have to do better in terms of treating the roads; that being in the South thing's getting old as an excuse.
Be well,
Bryant
...and school was just called off for tomorrow here in eastern Morris County, NJ. Hooray!
Quote from: yanksfan6129 on January 11, 2011, 09:11:26 PM
...and school was just called off for tomorrow here in eastern Morris County, NJ. Hooray!
Lucky you. We'll probably end up with a 2 hour delay at the most. :-/
And the forecast inflates further. We may be getting a full foot.
I brought my computer home with me today so I can work from home tomorrow if need be.
Of course, those couple inspections I had scheduled won't be getting done from home... I may be driving to Queens in the afternoon even if I'm not going into the office in the morning.
W egot out last year for like 2" of snow.. It's already like 29° out. (to cold to be on a bus from a basketball game). If only it would be a wet freeze... Dang..
BigMatt
A snow day for 2" of snow? When I was in school, 2' wasn't even enough half the time for a snow day!
We've got up to 6" in the forecast here tonight, but that doesn't really affect me any...especially considering the farthest I will be going is fifty feet from my desk to the kitchen. :D
Wow we actually got a snow day today! Woo!
At one point, they were expecting 2-4 inches in DC. We got maybe ONE inch.
They're predicting anywhere from 6-17" here today.
There were just a few flakes out and about this morning. Then, there was the small amount of snow in the air as well.
<rimshot> <ducks>!
Quote from: Chris on February 10, 2009, 12:48:41 PM
Here's the whole list:
You can read more about it on my blog:
http://dutchroadgeek.blogspot.com/2009/02/freeway-lane-mileagepopulation-ratio.html (http://dutchroadgeek.blogspot.com/2009/02/freeway-lane-mileagepopulation-ratio.html)
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(I dusted off above quote from "Freeway lane miles per capita ratios" thread on General Highway Talk)
Quote from: Bryant5493 on January 10, 2011, 01:24:30 PM
Several Interstates are closed in Georgia: I-20 in Conyers; I-85 in Union City; and I-20 between Fulton Industrial Blvd. and I-285 (West Atlanta).
Here in Atlanta, I just received notification that my children will enjoy their FOURTH consecutive snow day tomorrow. Snow hit Sunday night, but temperatures have hovered around freezing and dropped into teens/twenties at night. This morning, many residential streets still had icy patches; I saw several cars that had spun out on my way to work. But more to the point of the above quotes, GDOT was still having trouble with clearing icy patches on the metro interstates this morning. One reason offered by a GDOT spokesman on TV this morning: storm was a "once in 10 or 15 years" event and it would be cost-prohibitive (in terms of opportunity cost for other uses of $$$) to have enough materials to clear all of the interstate lane miles in the area (above chart suggests ATL has sixth highest total in country). I guess it is sort of "wait for warmer temps" approach (32 is predicted high for both today and tomorrow - 40 on Friday and 48 on Saturday).
The amount of freezing rain the area received after the snowfall was far less than anticipated; minimal power outages. Made life a lot easier than it could have been.
We received about 8 inches from this latest storm at my house. But the roads are totally fine...they did a good job salting and plowing. I was just wandering around the area for the past few hours in my car and even the most minor side streets are fine. Yet, we still got out of school--but I'm not complaining.
I received word from my parents today that with the most recent storm our fence in Idaho is now fully covered in snow- 5 feet of accumulation. Here's a shot I took while I was back there last week- the top bar is at 5 feet.
This is a lot of snow even for there at this time of year- in February the accumulation gets this high once every couple years, but none of us remember the last time we had this much in January. It's a bit of a concern if it keeps up, because we're running low on snow storage space (ie we may not have a driveway soon) and the roof is going to have to be shoveled if there's another big snowstorm without any melt, which is a huge hassle.
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There was a measly average of 5 inches on the ground across Northern New Jersey, and Passaic County STILL doesn't know how to plow roads!
Right now, Florida is the only snow-less state in the country.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/11/snow-present-in-49-of-the-50-u-s-states/
I got about 24 inches of snow in 24 hours with this storm...I have a double snow day too which is nice. It was kinda cool to see the Weather Channel talk about Hartford.
33 outside now, supposed to get down to 23° tonight.. I made the stupid decision to wear shorts (I always wear shorts..) and a polo in 20° weather, yesterday.. BAD choice... I'm from Texas, 20° is cold to me....
Also, here our school made us go to school for that 2" day, it was later in the winter that we had a 3-4" snowfall that we got out.. We go to school in the snow, and save the snow days till around spring, when the weather starts getting warmer (the good weather).
BigMatt
No snow here yet. We got a few flurries, but at the time the ground was much too warm for it to stick. Now, we've had a week or so of bitter cold temperatures, but no precip!
I went to Walmart at around 5 in the morning last night and this is what my car thermometer showed. NWS Norman forecasts a low of 10 tonight.
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This vid shows some ice that I encountered while driving today.
Be well,
Bryant
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Let me guess, you have HD radio built into your car? ;)
On the "photograph your car's thermometer" front...
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This morning.
Didn't photograph it, but had -17F Monday morning.
Quote from: froggie on January 19, 2011, 07:14:17 AM
Didn't photograph it, but had -17F Monday morning.
Tell me that was just a typo? :wow:
Nope.
My car might've been a little off, though. The "official" low at the airport was only -7F (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KCDA/2011/1/17/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA).
-17 doesn't seem all that unusual for Vermont.
coldest I ever had when I lived in Boston was -28, wind chill -56. This was inland by quite a bit; somewhere around Gardner or so.
Our local TV weatherguy reminded us in Central Ohio that we reached between -28 to -40 for lows on this day back in 1994.
Quote from: Adam Smith on January 19, 2011, 11:52:56 PM
Our local TV weatherguy reminded us in Central Ohio that we reached between -28 to -40 for lows on this day back in 1994.
Our weatherguy did the same here in Pittsburgh. -22F in 1994 here. Coldest EVER recorded temperature here.
Speaking of Pittsburgh, I spotted this video of icy road
Nice that person didn't give credit to KDKA.... :rolleyes:
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2011/01/18/residents-take-precautions-after-icy-commute/
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Quote from: rickmastfan67 on January 20, 2011, 12:06:39 AM
Quote from: Adam Smith on January 19, 2011, 11:52:56 PM
Our local TV weatherguy reminded us in Central Ohio that we reached between -28 to -40 for lows on this day back in 1994.
Our weatherguy did the same here in Pittsburgh. -22F in 1994 here. Coldest EVER recorded temperature here.
I remember that day. It was in the -20s in Akron/Cleveland too. I was one of the few that went in to work.
The other memorable thing about that day was a
Global Warming Conference/Event/Symposium scheduled for Cleveland State University was canceled because of the weather! :sombrero:
More snow rolling in tonight, going to at least 5 AM. :happy:
We only had about an inch or two yesterday, but it froze during the nighttime hours. Getting home from work was slower than normal and only the main roads were clear.
By now, it looks like most of the snow and ice on the roads has melted except for any shaded areas.
Snow has turned evening rush hour in DC into an absolute nightmare. Even the Feds cutting loose 2 hours early didn't help.
The problem was the rain we had during the day, which washed away the pre-treatment the DOTs had done. So the rain turning to sleet then to heavy wet snow meant the roads had no chance.
Here's the view (http://twitpic.com/3tp1t3) on US 1 in Huntington (south of the Beltway). Drivers were having EXTREME difficulty trying to get up the hill. And this is only the first of several hills on US 1. By far not the only situation like this in the DC area.
Word is that I-70 west of Frederick is even worse of a nightmare.
Nowhere near as bad here. But, we got another inch or two here. Just enough to muck up the roads this morning and make the locals restless. This is the most number of winter storms we've had since I've moved to Tennessee. Of course, this winter is still a picnic compared to more northerly locales.
Quote from: froggie on January 26, 2011, 06:58:13 PM
Snow has turned evening rush hour in DC into an absolute nightmare. Even the Feds cutting loose 2 hours early didn't help.
I usually drive home from my office in downtown DC, but this time left my car in an underground garage, and started my way back home around 5pm (my usual quitting time is 6:30pm). Metrorail was a mess, but Metrobus was even worse, with almost no service at the normally busy Ballston Metro station and, according to other riders, even less at the Rosslyn station. I heard others on my route had been waiting up to two hours, rather than the usual twenty minutes between buses. What buses were out there often were spinning their wheels and nearly getting stuck while leaving their stops. My seven-mile trip home took over two hours.
I-676 in Phila at the 8th Street exit, EB, there is a slight upgrade. There were 3 tractor trailers and 5 cars stuck or stranded there. I was able to watch this via one of the PennDOT camera while surfing. One of the tractor trailers you could see pull forward a few feet, move back, pull forward, for about 45 min, all stuck against the center median barrier. The cops were forcing everyone off the exit, traffic was backed up for quite a while. You could see a pack of about 30 people coming over and helping to push people over to exit. Eventually PennDOT plows were able to make their way through traffic, PennDOT tow trucks were able to tow the stranded cars off, and a larger tow truck was able to pull the tractor trailer up the hill.
According to the Phila Inquirer...something like 150 SEPTA buses were stuck, some as long as 12 hrs. One bus had passengers who slept in the bus overnight.
Quote from: jemacedo9 on January 27, 2011, 10:12:58 PM
I-676 in Phila at the 8th Street exit, EB, there is a slight upgrade. There were 3 tractor trailers and 5 cars stuck or stranded there. I was able to watch this via one of the PennDOT camera while surfing. One of the tractor trailers you could see pull forward a few feet, move back, pull forward, for about 45 min, all stuck against the center median barrier. The cops were forcing everyone off the exit, traffic was backed up for quite a while. You could see a pack of about 30 people coming over and helping to push people over to exit. Eventually PennDOT plows were able to make their way through traffic, PennDOT tow trucks were able to tow the stranded cars off, and a larger tow truck was able to pull the tractor trailer up the hill.
According to the Phila Inquirer...something like 150 SEPTA buses were stuck, some as long as 12 hrs. One bus had passengers who slept in the bus overnight.
Philadelphia did not do well today. But we weren't expecting what we got - the forecast kept going up during the day yesterday and through the storm. I had to go to work (my employer's policy is that we only close if there's a state of emergency; if the schools close, that triggers a "two-hour grace period for late arrivals.")
So I left home about 9:30. At some point I noticed that the streets hadn't been actually cleaned, so much as had the snow packed into an inch-or-two-thick layer of slippery stuff.
Was out for an errand earlier this evening and it's very quiet, streets still messy; went out of my way to check on my own car (parked on the street two blocks from home) and saw it's going to take some effort to extricate it this weekend if we don't get a good amount of melting.
Certain neighborhoods of Philadelphia have steep hills, and due to bad experiences in ice storms during the '90s, I think certain bus routes in those neighborhoods just pre-emptively stop running in snowstorms now. I heard about that one bus that was stuck overnight. The worst story in this media market was a pedestrian in Wilmington, Del., who was run over by a plow.
It's like déjà vu all over again. Apparently on Wednesday night, I-78 was closed due to stuck vehicles (http://www.wfmz.com/lehighvalleynews/26631966/detail.html), although this time it happened south of the Allentown-Bethlehem area.
Expecting snow starting Tuesday night and lasting all Wednesday. Will we have a snow day? :jumping:
PennDOT Cautions Motorists to Avoid Unnecessary Travel (http://www.dot.state.pa.us/internet/pdnews.nsf/1a85687faea1e0cf8525673000645089/9aa18044dfdbdde385257829006f16b5?OpenDocument)
Turnpike Weather Alert (http://www.paturnpike.com/rttc/AdvisoryInfo.aspx?ID=133650)
The majority of Pennsylvania is under a Winter Storm Warning (http://www.weather.gov/alerts-beta/pa.php?x=1), so it's likely they'll have to chip Phil's burrow open so he can give his prediction on Wednesday.
winter storm warning down here with blizzard warnings just to the north and west of st. louis
Blizzard warning here (http://forecast.weather.gov/showsigwx.php?warnzone=OKZ029&warncounty=OKC027&firewxzone=OKZ029&local_place1=Norman+OK&product1=Blizzard+Warning)
Quote from: National Weather ServiceDO NOT TRAVEL! STAY INSIDE! STRONG WINDS AND BLINDING SNOW WILL
MAKE TRAVEL NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE. THIS IS A LIFE THREATENING STORM.
EVEN PEDESTRIANS IN FAMILIAR AREAS MAY BECOME DISORIENTED.
I should note that although the university has closed the campus for tomorrow,
this policy applies to graduate students.
Here in MI we are under a winter storm watch. In fact all counties here in southeast Michigan (except Monroe and Lenawee) are under a winter storm watch. We might have the highest snowfall totals since January of 2005!!! :happy: This is the same system that is hitting the nation from Oklahoma to Maine, so people like you PennDOTFan, watch out!
The link to my local NWS: http://www.crh.noaa.gov/dtx/ (http://www.crh.noaa.gov/dtx/)
We're getting some rare thundersleet (or as NWS Norman is reporting, "a thunderstorm with sleet was reported") here. Most of the casino workers that were at work will probably have to stay on shift for a few extra hours due to call-ins, then go to sleep in the hotel. I lucked out and had today off for my birthday.
We're looking at 18-24+ inches of snow when all is said and done late Wednesday here in SW Chicagoland. Personally, I think we'll see 24" locally. The NWS has us in the 20+ inch zone, and the most I saw was from Jerry Taft on ABC 7 with one model predicting, I kid you not, over 32" for my city. :-o
Should be interesting. I'll double check the thumb screws on the Yooper Scooper (snow scoop (http://www.composters.com/pbj/imageGallery.php?imageID=474)). Beats the crap out of a snow blower - no gas, no clogs, no snow blowing back in my face. :sombrero:
It rained a little bit in Tucson today.
People started freaking out.
Who are these people
I guess we're going to be iced in here in Ohio between US 40 & 30. South of I-70 it supposed to be all rain.
would have prefered snow.
NWS upgraded the winter storm warning to a blizzard waring in the st. louis metro area, and none of the people on KTVI/KPLR ever recalled the NWS using that waring for St. Louis County.
Major ice storm is still brewing for counties just south and east of St. Louis though.
Here's an update I found. Now all counties in Southeast Michigan are under a blizzard warning!
Thankfully, we're being spared that. I don't want to think how an area like Nashville would react to a true blizzard. It's warm enough here that we're just getting rain. But, we've got a wind advisory until tomorrow morning. (sounds like the same storm to me)
Unlike the penny-ante storms we get down here where people hoard bread, milk and eggs, the storm you guys farther north look to be getting is the kind to make sure you have plenty of supplies and stay someplace safe and warm.
This morning I woke up at 7, looked outside, and saw that it didn't look too bad. Did my usual morning routine, but decided to add an extra five minutes to my usual fifteen-minute walk to the lab. Holy cow... it ended up taking me an hour to walk a mile in that stuff (though that included warming up in the lobby of the university's dorms for fifteen minutes in the middle of the walk). While I was in the lobby, I was watching KOCO and they were reporting -20F wind chills.
It snowed here!!! Like an inch and no school.. but it's supposed to get down to 9° tonight.
It sucks that my basketball game got canceled though, cause school did..
It started at 78° yesterday (1-31-11) then it dropped to 55° around 8:00pm, it started raining at about 7:00pm, then it turned to hail, then the hail covered the ground, it almost looked like snow..
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Then at about 1:00am the rain turned to snow.
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BigMatt
I work for a medical supply company and we're already being advised about trucks and UPS not being able to deliver today and perhaps tomorrow. Maybe the new Storm of the Century?
I-70 in Central Missouri and I-44 from Tulsa to Joplin been reported closed due to white-out conditions from the storm
I'm pretty sure it's because the roads are completely frozen, and I saw a truck skid while making a turn real slow, so it's not really because of the snow, it's cause of the ice...
BigMatt
Quote from: BigMatt on February 01, 2011, 11:04:37 AM
It snowed here!!! Like an inch and no school.. but it's supposed to get down to 9° tonight.
Nice pictures, but color me a bit unimpressed. We've got a couple of legacy inches on the ground right now, and then it's starting to finally come down. When all is done by 3pm tomorrow, we should have about 18-24 inches. Odds are, schools will be closed tomorrow, but be open on Thursday. Supposed to get down to -6F on Thursday morning.
I'm still not fazed. After going to college in Houghton, MI, and seeing an average of over 200 inches of snow in a season, with my first year up there having 328 inches of snow (still not the record), I've seen more. You just shovel and salt and move on.
I'm down here and got the freezing rain with 3/4 inch thick ice. I'd rather deal with the 6 inches of sleet in the St. Louis area or the foot of snow in Central Missouri than the freezing rain.
MoDOT extended the I-70 closure from Sedalia to Wentzville for a distance of 130 miles
Not seeing any interstate closures in Illinois yet, but the state road condition website is reporting the Cumberland Road Rest Area on WB I-70 in Clark County and the Illinois Praririe Rest Area on SB I-57 (no county listing) are closed due to lack of power.
Wow, we actually got a snow day tomorrow! Yay!
We don't have too many road closures yet, but the ramp from the IB Skyway to the IB Ryan Express Lanes is closed. All the malls around here closed early (by 5pm) as well. Other than that, just slow going as accidents here and there. Maybe we'll see LSD closed later on in the overnight hours.
Late start tomorrow!!
BigMatt
PennDOT Reducing Speed Limit on all Pennsylvania Interstates, Expressways (http://www.dot.state.pa.us/Internet/pdNews.nsf/8c5bc4e349ab4db6852576c800678468/56640386750b2d7b8525782b0005713a?OpenDocument)
Google Traffic does track these storms pretty well The Interstates turn Yellow
70 in MO 80 in Illinois are offically closed but most roads in the blizzard zone are impassable and based on listening to the scanners police are rescuing the stranded. The biggeset stranding maybe hundreds of cars trapped on Lake Shore Driveb
After having gotten stuck on Weber Rd for an hour and a half, I got back home. LSD is now closed. Parts of I-57 are closed. I-80 west of Morris to Princeton is closed. Check out Travel Midwest (http://"http://www.travelmidwest.com/lmiga/home.jsp") for all the problems around here. It's a cluster, and then some! :-o
There's no way the plows can keep up with this stuff. Even with having gone to college in Houghton, and braving the Blizzard of Jan 1-3, 1999 going back up to college during it, this is the worst storm I've ever seen.
Only Jan 1979 was worse in my experience . I have been on Travel Midwest and www.lakecountypassage.com
There is a really wierd camera @ IL 137 /IL 21
It is easing up here to your west . The plows are out
The plows are out, but all roads in Will and Lake Counties, IL are closed to travel. Apparently Lake Co will ticket, Will Co does not. Currently, and this is unprecedented AFAIK, there are several interstate closures:
I-80 from Morris to Princeton
I-88 from Rock Falls to the Quad Cities
I-74 from Peoria to Galesburg
I-39 - all but the tollway section
I-155 - all
I-57 south of I-80 (southern extent unknown)
I-55 from MLK Drive to LSD
They're still evacuating people from LSD, even at a quarter to six in the morning. LSD, of course, is still closed (entire extend from 57th to Hollywood).
Here in the northeast, specifically Northern New Jersey, we've had today and yesterday off from school.
1. Yesterday we got hit with about 4" of snow and some ice...according to my dad, who drove all over the place yesterday, it was bad and there were tons of accidents.
2. Today we got .5"+ of ice.
It's been a hell of a winter.
I got my car stuck in the mountains and had to hike 19 miles over a 7300 foot pass to get help.
in a snowstorm.
uphill both ways.
wearing nothing but a diaper.
with wolves chasing me.
and bears gnawing at my flesh.
I died several times.
(actually, "in a snowstorm" is the last factual statement of this post!)
Woo, that was fun! Got about a foot out of the Groundhog's Eve Blizzard in Milwaukee. That's on top of 5-6 in from the 48 hours before the blizzard. Checked out the lakefront both last night and this morning; that was awesome.
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As the waves hit the breakwater, they'd reflect off and run into other waves coming in and shoot up in the air 20+ feet. The water was choked with rounded ice chunks ranging from the size of a baseball to the size of sofa. As the waves smacked the ice around, the chunks would cascade around like so many boulders.
Hope people can dig their cars out before the big chill tonight or else they'll be stuck in a glacier.
At noon those same Illinois roads are listed as closed The Chicago area cameras are showing empty roads.
As for father downstate St Louis Main roads look cleared but empty. Peoria is snow covered and empty.
US 67 and US 24 in western Illinois are open -sort of with one bad lane each.
City of Monmouth has plowed all its streets. Sun is out in western Illinois Blizzard still underway in Northeast.
Quincy-Admas county expects winds later and that will make east west rural roads impassable again
Right now, only Lake (IL) County is preventing anyone from traveling. The ban here in Will County is gone, and many main roads are passable. However, some closures still remain such as Weber Rd between Renwick and Airport Roads for a downed power line. Most streets in town here are plowed enough to be passable. They had all 61 trucks out last night and this morning, and they used several private snowplows to help clear the snow. The big question now is where to put it.
Quote from: PAHighways on February 01, 2011, 10:15:29 PM
PennDOT Reducing Speed Limit on all Pennsylvania Interstates, Expressways (http://www.dot.state.pa.us/Internet/pdNews.nsf/8c5bc4e349ab4db6852576c800678468/56640386750b2d7b8525782b0005713a?OpenDocument)
Is the 45mph limit legally enforceable? If so are they going to the effort of deploying officers to radar traffic or are the conditions so bad that achieving 45mph will be optimistic?
Quote from: Truvelo on February 02, 2011, 03:09:43 PM
Is the 45mph limit legally enforceable?
Probably. If nothing else, you can be cited for "driving too fast for conditions."
the speed limit on 270/255 in Missouri during the morning rush was set at 40 MPH today, but there was tons of accidents and the highway had to be closed briefly at times to allow salt trucks to do their jobs.
Quote from: Truvelo on February 02, 2011, 03:09:43 PMIs the 45mph limit legally enforceable?
Yes
Quote from: Truvelo on February 02, 2011, 03:09:43 PMIf so are they going to the effort of deploying officers to radar traffic or are the conditions so bad that achieving 45mph will be optimistic?
I doubt speed traps went up along the roadways, but if a cop paced you doing 50, he could pull you over. However, with the rain/ice/snow/wind that came through, getting up to 45 was optimistic especially going through the mountains.
I spent 45 minutes releasing my car from an icy prison this morning. Scrape scrape scrape, dig dig dig.
This is the longest lasting snow I've experienced in my life! (two days). It's about 17° outside now, the snow is rock hard, pointless.. We had some bad ice yesterday (2-1-11). We had a delayed school day. I hate this weather so much.. Give me my 100° weather back!! I wore shorts today, in 12° weather. The low tonight is 8°F. Crazy, for West Texas.
But I guess I can say to y'all that y'alls "hot" weather is nothing.. Try over 20 consecutive days of 100° or more!
BigMatt
Stop being a baby Matt. :P
It's 15°and snowing.. Again.. I'm not used to this!
BigMatt
At least I'm glad I'm not living in Chicago anymore! :) It looks like an Arctic ghost town out there.
Quote from: BigMatt on February 03, 2011, 12:50:08 AM
Try over 20 consecutive days of 100° or more!
I don't think I done that, but I've certainly done 20 days of 90 or more with high humidity!
And, I'll take 20 days below freezing over 20 days over 90, anytime!
Quote from: mightyace on February 03, 2011, 10:12:56 AM
And, I'll take 20 days below freezing over 20 days over 90, anytime!
Not I. I hate winter. If it were June most of the year, with a couple of months of April or October thrown in so that we wouldn't take it for granted (and could enjoy foliage). Wanna trade climates?
^^^
Sure, I'll even trade addresses!
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NWS Norman's forecast map for Saturday. Yeah, look at that. Warm front. Followed the next day by a cold front.
Excuse me for a moment.
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I didn't realize how bad this was until hearing a news report about El Paso, TX and Juarez, Mexico getting snow and having lows of 7 degrees. Everything seemed to be about Chicago because of Lakeshore Drive. It's amazing (to me) because when does all of Texas get forecasted to get either snow or a snow/mix?
You all are more than welcome to send that stuff down my way :D
^^^
Be careful of what you wish for. Now, you'll get a snowfall and the price of orange juice will double.
Quote from: mightyace on February 03, 2011, 04:43:22 PM
^^^
Be careful of what you wish for. Now, you'll get a snowfall and the price of orange juice will double.
Or even triple. :wow:
Speaking of snow, here's a few local images taken today.
Theodore St wb between Larkin Av (IL-7) and Gaylord Rd. This normally four lanes.
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Larkin Av (IL-7) and McDonough St.
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Hammes Av sb between Glenwood Av and Jefferson St.
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Piles of snow on Ingalls Av at Gael Dr. The street blade is City of Joliet standard.
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We wound up with over 18 inches between Tuesday and Wednesday.
Ugh. The university cancelled classes again for Friday even though most of the roads seem to be okay by now. This means the baboons in the apartment above mine will be extra-loud tonight since they don't have classes until Monday.
Oh, and the NWS is predicting snow again on Sunday and Wednesday. The baboons may never have class again.
Quote from: algorerhythms on February 03, 2011, 08:35:05 PM
Ugh. The university cancelled classes again for Friday even though most of the roads seem to be okay by now.
Over here on the east side they still haven't plowed most of the streets yet. My mom's truck can get around on the packed snow all right but it's doubtful that my PT Cruiser could even muster getting out of the driveway.
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 03, 2011, 09:03:38 PM
Quote from: algorerhythms on February 03, 2011, 08:35:05 PM
Ugh. The university cancelled classes again for Friday even though most of the roads seem to be okay by now.
Over here on the east side they still haven't plowed most of the streets yet. My mom's truck can get around on the packed snow all right but it's doubtful that my PT Cruiser could even muster getting out of the driveway.
I have a PT Cruiser, and it seems to get by fine in the snow. I was going places Tuesday night other cars didn't dare go, following quite a few pickups and SUVs. Even popped a curb to get around a stuck Econoline van.
It seems like the popular thing to do with all the snow is pile it up right on corners, making it next to impossible to merge into traffic without risking getting hit, since your entire front end has to be into the lane before you can see anything.
I feel like I'm about to die because of this stupid weather... I don't want to see snow ever again!! 21°... :/
BigMatt
In Wichita we got about five inches. We were expected to get about a quarter-inch of ice before the snow came, but we did not, so that was a mercy. However, the snow fell with a lot of wind (near-blizzard conditions) so there was a lot of drifting and, as a consequence, a lot of cars and other relatively low-clearance vehicles getting stuck in unplowed side streets. After getting stuck twice (the first time badly) at the north end of my street, and having to be helped out both times, I "paid it forward" and dug out the intersection myself. (I don't think too many people saw me doing it, which is a good thing since I didn't want to be asked questions about where I was putting the snow.)
Temperatures were close to 40° F today, but were in the 0-10° F range with brutal wind chills while the snow was falling and for a day afterward, so the Wichita public schools have had three consecutive snow days. This has generated much anger locally but the school district has defended the cancellations on the basis that buses were getting stuck or severely slowed down in side streets, thus raising the risk that children would have to wait half an hour or more in frigid wind (often with inadequate winter clothing) in near-darkness with no ability to let themselves back into their houses.
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 04, 2011, 08:37:24 PM
(I don't think too many people saw me doing it, which is a good thing since I didn't want to be asked questions about where I was putting the snow.)
you have a major political enemy whose driveway mysteriously got 12 inches of snow, while everyone else got 5?
Quote from: agentsteel53 on February 04, 2011, 08:47:53 PMyou have a major political enemy whose driveway mysteriously got 12 inches of snow, while everyone else got 5?
It had more to do with salt. Salt, in sufficient quantity, will kill ground cover, including the fescue and Bermuda grass which are the most popular lawn plants in my neighborhood. Although Wichita doesn't salt side streets, significant amounts of salt and other deicing chemicals get tracked into subdivisions when cars turn off main roads. I had decided to try to pile the snow in front of the curb face, but there was a lot of it, and not every shovelful would go where I aimed it, so I didn't want people taking down my name and exacting promises not to let so much as a single chunk of salty snow fall on their lawns.
Personally, I think political enemies need and deserve twelve full feet of snow.
You take politics way too seriously if you wish harm on people for believing something other than what you believe.
Quote from: AlpsROADS on February 06, 2011, 08:34:52 AMYou take politics way too seriously if you wish harm on people for believing something other than what you believe.
That last paragraph in my previous post was actually (believe it or not) a joke, as was Jake's post preceding it. To start with, actually dumping 12" of snow in someone's driveway is tortious, and 12' of snow would probably also qualify as criminal damage.
Agreed, it is possible to take politics too seriously--but what else can we do when life and liberty can be taken away as a consequence of political decisions?
Finally, it all melted. After 5 days, this is the longest time I've seen snow in my life. There's a 40% of snow, on tuesday.. Doubt it..
BigMatt
Surprise snow storm... Yesterday evening, most (if not all) of the roads in and around Montreal were buried under a good 6 inches of snow or more. Going over 50 mph was almost dangerous. A-30 through Saint-Constant was especially bad.
Quote from: BigMatt on February 06, 2011, 03:17:32 PM
Finally, it all melted. After 5 days, this is the longest time I've seen snow in my life. There's a 40% of snow, on tuesday.. Doubt it..
BigMatt
Heh. After 5 days, yep, we still have most of what fell Tuesday/Wednesday on the ground and picked up another inch or two today.
Still doesn't beat where I went to college (Houghton, MI) where the snow started in September my first year and went through May (1995-96). Even snowed there on May 1st that year. Measurable snow.
Here in NJ we've nearly had snowcover for however many consecutive days since the December 26th Boxing Day Blizzard.
Looks like we're going to get another snowstorm here in Oklahoma starting tomorrow night.
There are some warnings for this area. Mainly northern Tennessee and into Kentucky.
We may get snow in central MS this week. I hope it is and not more ice/freezing rain.
Looks like more snow in Birmingham this evening. We are expecting 1-3 inches where I am.
I can't wait for the white crud to melt; I am getting sick of dealing with the large piles that take up half a lane, much less those that require using a lane for a movement other than what it's marked for (as in using the left turn lane as a straight lane because a large pile/wall of snow is taking up the normal straight lane).
We got some snow today! It started around 3:30 and then for a couple of hours, changed to a mix and then around seven, back to all snow. We may've gotten an inch. Heavier amounts just to our north, though.
Up and around Nashville, we got 1-3 inches last night. It started in mid afternoon and went into early evening.
Some roads were still snow covered this morning, but the sun's melting some of it even though it's only 22 degrees.
Fortunately, for me, this was the light fluffy stuff that was easy to brush off my van as I had forgotten to put a snow brush in there.
We have had eight inches in Wichita this time. The snow started falling early Tuesday morning and had stopped by Wednesday noon. As was the case previously, there was no ice accumulation before the snow arrived, and this time there was not much wind while the snow was falling, so we have had much less of a problem with drifts. Temperatures are still below freezing but we have had more or less unblocked sunshine since Wednesday morning, so any paved surface that is not actually covered by snow or sloshed with slush is now dry.
Wichita public schools had another snow day on Wednesday, bringing the total for this season to six, and overrunning the five snow days allowed for in the calendar. School superintendents all over Kansas are tearing out their hair because the excess snow days make it hard for them to comply with the requirement (in state law) to have school in session a minimum 180 days annually. For some reason, not satisfactorily explained in the local media, it is now unthinkable to have makeup days in late spring.
Snow blowers are now popular in Wichita, but I am sticking with a hand shovel. Snow blowers never seem to be able to dislodge snow packed into tire tracks. I suspect they produce enough heat to thaw nearby virgin snow into slabs and chunks since that is what I have to shift whenever I start shoveling close to an area which has been cleared by a blower.
Quote from: J N Winkler on February 10, 2011, 04:14:41 PMthe excess snow days make it hard for them to comply with the requirement (in state law) to have school in session a minimum 180 days annually. For some reason, not satisfactorily explained in the local media, it is now unthinkable to have makeup days in late spring.
when is "late spring"? Does your school system let out before June 21st, thereby implying days to be appended to the end of the year?
When I was in school, it let out around the 25th of June, so end-of-year would be early summer for me. the only alternative I could think of would be to cut into the April vacation, which is "early spring", but I'd imagine parents who already had vacations booked would be mildly displeased by that alternative.
letting the damn calendar year run into the summer is about the only solution. One year, our last day was July 1st, but hey, to make up for that, we did get
seven consecutive Wednesdays off due to snow. Eerie, but when our break in the middle of the workweek came to an end, we sure didn't like it.
When I was in school (longer ago now than I care to think), it always let out a little after Memorial Day, and the understanding was that any snow days in excess of those budgeted would have to be made up at the end of the school year, generally in early June. In Wichita school is generally in session (except for breaks) from late August to early June. The school district right now is talking about "funding" the excess snow days by fiddling with the calendar at the school level, e.g. by cancelling scheduled inservice days, and that sounds a whole lot more complicated than just keeping kids in school however long it takes. I can't believe there are that many families who start $10,000 nonrefundable vacations the very next day after school ends.
yeah, we started as late as September 9th, and had three week-long vacations (Christmas, February, and April) and also a smattering of Jewish holidays, which were mostly in the fall (Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur) so our school year lasted a while.
I think the timing of the summer was a climate thing - by offsetting it about a half-month to a month compared to other places, we took advantage of when Boston's climate was indeed the most summery.
"inservice days"? We had something called "workshop days" but they were half-days, not entire days off.
Quote from: mightyace on February 10, 2011, 12:47:48 PM
Up and around Nashville, we got 1-3 inches last night. It started in mid afternoon and went into early evening.
Some roads were still snow covered this morning, but the sun's melting some of it even though it's only 22 degrees.
Fortunately, for me, this was the light fluffy stuff that was easy to brush off my van as I had forgotten to put a snow brush in there.
If I'm counting correctly, this would be the 6th snow event for the Nashville area since the start of December, right? I honestly don't remember Nashville ever having that many snow events in one winter (fall/winter in this case) as long as I've been alive.
Columbia, SC has had two snow events so far this winter, which is the most in one season since my in-laws first moved down here (in 2003), and last winter they had their first snow event since they moved here. This latest system only brought us rain last night (and it was sunny and beautiful the rest of today), but WIS-TV says that Newberry Co (NW of Columbia) got wet snowflakes that melted on contact, so I'm assuming Greenville/Spartanburg could have gotten some accumulation.
The schools here in Stamford have taken to scheduling school years of 185 days from the getgo so they can have five snow days without having to make any of them up. Of course, that number has already been exceeded this year (I believe there have been seven), so now the board is scrambling to figure out how to do makeups. Their method of choice has been to poll the parents by phone on whether to shorten the February break, shorten the April break, or add days at the end. Not sure if they've reached a decision yet...
This is a recent idea, though, and wasn't practice when I was in school. Then they always just added as many days as necessary to the end of the year, with the provision that they couldn't go into July and would start cannibalizing the April break if they filled June up (which almost happened one year but never actually did, at least not in my time).
The thing is, the high schools wouldn't reschedule their final exams, so we'd end up with extra days at the end of the year after finals... for which nobody would show up and no teacher would count an absence against you. Sweet deal.
Looks like the South keeps getting pummeled by the blizzards... :(
Except Florida, that is! :)
Quote from: Henry on February 11, 2011, 11:41:38 AM
Looks like the South keeps getting pummeled by the blizzards... :(
Except Florida, that is! :)
No it is just cold and boring here... :-/
Quote from: AARoads on February 11, 2011, 05:00:43 PM
Quote from: Henry on February 11, 2011, 11:41:38 AM
Looks like the South keeps getting pummeled by the blizzards... :(
Except Florida, that is! :)
No it is just cold and boring here... :-/
Yeah, no repeat of '77 or '89 this year.
I heard a first real sign of spring this afternoon. (sorry Punxsutawney Phil!)
It was the sound of geese, presumably headed north!
Quote from: mightyace on February 15, 2011, 08:37:37 PM
I heard a first real sign of spring this afternoon. (sorry Punxsutawney Phil!)
It was the sound of geese, presumably headed north!
My mom saw a flock of Robins this afternoon here in Pittsburgh.
Quote from: mightyace on February 15, 2011, 08:37:37 PM
I heard a first real sign of spring this afternoon. (sorry Punxsutawney Phil!)
It was the sound of geese, presumably headed north!
Heard some geese here too! It's been in the 70's for the past week, so just about everything's melted at this point...
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 16, 2011, 06:06:15 AM
Quote from: mightyace on February 15, 2011, 08:37:37 PM
I heard a first real sign of spring this afternoon. (sorry Punxsutawney Phil!)
It was the sound of geese, presumably headed north!
Heard some geese here too! It's been in the 70's for the past week, so just about everything's melted at this point...
There are a few icebergs left over in the university parking lots, but that's it.
We had a Brazilian guy arrive at the lab on Saturday. He's disappointed that so far the weather's been just like winter weather back home.
It was 84° yesterday.. Running in that after a week of not getting above freezing, is hard...
At least for two-a-days, I have all summer for 100s.. Can't wait till 100° time!
Scenes around Pittsburgh from last night and today (http://www.wtae.com/slideshow/weather/26942947/detail.html).
I talked to my dad Monday night and Bloomsburg had gotten 7 inches.
86° in February.. Someone said something about how out doesn't get up to the 80s in desert cities like phoenix, well it's almost 90° here!
Still snowing up in Bloomsburg. I talked to my dad Tuesday night and they had just gotten 4 inches of snow over a layer of ice.
Unless you are in Marquette MI (154" or 12.8 feet on average) or Buffalo NY (86.5" or 7.2 feet), i have no sympahty for anyone complaining of snow. We have had 57" when we normally have 33" officially at O'Hare.
Quote from: hobsini2 on March 13, 2011, 06:01:45 PM
Unless you are in Marquette MI (154" or 12.8 feet on average) or Buffalo NY (86.5" or 7.2 feet), i have no sympahty for anyone complaining of snow. We have had 57" when we normally have 33" officially at O'Hare.
Does going to college in Houghton, MI (avg 208" per year) count? :sombrero:
Even with all that snow (328" my first winter up there), that last blizzard was the worst I've ever seen. Tried to drive Weber Rd in it and couldn't see a damned thing at times except for the electric wires on the side of the road.
Houghton absolutely counts Brandon. It took me 75 minutes to drive from 88/59 in Naperville to Veterans and lily Cache in Bolingbrook. I normally do that in 20.
Tornadoes and 70s yesterday to flurries and 30s today: if you don't like the weather in Pennsylvania, just wait.