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Title: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: roadman65 on November 17, 2018, 12:35:02 PM
I am talking about short lived series that did not make it to the end or even half way through a season.

Mine I loved The Law and Harry McGraw starring Jerry Orbach (Len Briscoe Law & Order) and Barbara Babcock.  The show was on in 1987 and like usual when CBS pulls the plug on a show instead of being open about it, they air specials in its place or even sporting events making the episodes only shown once a month.  This way  that viewers can forget about the program and when the few episodes that aired do come on, the nielsons become so bad that the cancellation is a must.  That was with this series as the episodes became shown less and less and then CBS yanks it from the programming.

It was a detective show based on a character from Murder She Wrote who often solved cases for an attorney in which both the detective and lawyer both had a love to hate relationship.  Orbach was Harry McGraw an unethical detective while Babcock was Ellie McGuiness a proper attorney who hated McGraws methods of finding information in which the two found conflict with each other.

Then there was Aaron's Way on NBC in the mid 80's.  NBC had it for part of a season.

What were some of yours.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: NE2 on November 17, 2018, 03:08:00 PM
The Hasselhoffs.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: bandit957 on November 17, 2018, 03:57:35 PM
In the early '80s, there was a sitcom called 'Maggie' that my mom just hated hated hated hated hated. It lasted about 3 episodes, but I don't know if it would have been a big hit if it had lasted longer. I was sorry to see it canceled, because I thought it was so funny how much my mom hated this show.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: bandit957 on November 17, 2018, 04:00:32 PM
Also, the only thing I remember about the sitcom 'Maggie' is that there was a particularly gruesome scene where one of the characters got punched in the face and bled everywhere.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 17, 2018, 04:19:47 PM
Life on Mars (US), Party Down. Maybe Vinyl, though I found the anti-hero main character really hard to stomach.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: bandit957 on November 17, 2018, 04:33:33 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on November 17, 2018, 04:00:32 PM
Also, the only thing I remember about the sitcom 'Maggie' is that there was a particularly gruesome scene where one of the characters got punched in the face and bled everywhere.

I JUST FOUND THIS SCENE ON YOUTUBE AFTER 37 YEARS!!!!!

One of the bratty kids on the show got hit with a baseball bat and his teeth got knocked out!
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: US 81 on November 18, 2018, 08:43:24 AM
Firefly.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: wanderer2575 on November 18, 2018, 10:03:41 AM
Police Squad!  (In color!)

Quote from: bandit957 on November 17, 2018, 03:57:35 PM
In the early '80s, there was a sitcom called 'Maggie' that my mom just hated hated hated hated hated. It lasted about 3 episodes, but I don't know if it would have been a big hit if it had lasted longer. I was sorry to see it canceled, because I thought it was so funny how much my mom hated this show.

It was based on humorist Erma Bombeck's books, just as the later "Dave's World" was based on humorist Dave Barry's books.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: HazMatt on November 18, 2018, 10:18:44 AM
There was one in the late 90s called the Brian Benben show, that was cancelled 3-4 episodes in.  My mom hated it but I thought it was pretty funny.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: froggie on November 18, 2018, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: US 81 on November 18, 2018, 08:43:24 AM
Firefly.

Yep.  But at least Joss was able to make a movie a few years later...
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: kurumi on November 18, 2018, 12:21:33 PM
Candle Cove.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 18, 2018, 07:28:41 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on November 18, 2018, 10:03:41 AM
Police Squad!  (In color!)

Quote from: bandit957 on November 17, 2018, 03:57:35 PM
In the early '80s, there was a sitcom called 'Maggie' that my mom just hated hated hated hated hated. It lasted about 3 episodes, but I don't know if it would have been a big hit if it had lasted longer. I was sorry to see it canceled, because I thought it was so funny how much my mom hated this show.

It was based on humorist Erma Bombeck's books, just as the later "Dave's World" was based on humorist Dave Barry's books.
Police Squad was a) years ahead of its time and b) a really hard concept to maintain over a single television season, let alone several. There's a reason the Naked Gun movies came out once every several years and the quality diminished over time.

Erma Bombeck also had a television series based on Just Wait Until Your Father Gets Home, animated by Bil Keane.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 18, 2018, 07:29:46 PM
Quote from: HazMatt on November 18, 2018, 10:18:44 AM
There was one in the late 90s called the Brian Benben show, that was cancelled 3-4 episodes in.  My mom hated it but I thought it was pretty funny.
I remember it, it was awful.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: Throckmorton on November 18, 2018, 09:15:59 PM
   
Frank's Place, 1987-88. Tim Reid and an ensemble cast.   
   
It did run an entire season but was not renewed. It should have been.   
   
The one about the homeless guy was a real hoot.   
   
   
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: US71 on November 18, 2018, 10:09:20 PM
Quote from: NE2 on November 17, 2018, 03:08:00 PM
The Hasselhoffs.
Never heard of it
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: Takumi on November 18, 2018, 10:12:01 PM
Quote from: US71 on November 18, 2018, 10:09:20 PM
Quote from: NE2 on November 17, 2018, 03:08:00 PM
The Hasselhoffs.
Never heard of it
It was more popular in Germany.
https://youtu.be/SwpM0afTteE
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 19, 2018, 06:27:18 AM
Ein, zwei, drei, HASSELHOFF!
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: Henry on November 19, 2018, 09:25:31 AM
As a native Chicagoan, I would say Superior Donuts. I wish they'd add a third season to see what would become of a stellar cast that included the always brilliant veterans Katey Sagal and Judd Hirsch.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: HazMatt on November 19, 2018, 10:58:58 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 18, 2018, 07:29:46 PM
Quote from: HazMatt on November 18, 2018, 10:18:44 AM
There was one in the late 90s called the Brian Benben show, that was cancelled 3-4 episodes in.  My mom hated it but I thought it was pretty funny.
I remember it, it was awful.

May have been, I'm sure teenage me had terrible tastes.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: BamaZeus on November 19, 2018, 12:03:16 PM
Freaks and Geeks should have survived longer than it did
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: hbelkins on November 19, 2018, 12:47:38 PM
Wasn't there a third spinoff of Law & Order that didn't last? I think it may have been called "Trial By Jury."

Not quite fitting the OP's criteria, but it's hard to believe that as big of a franchise as "Star Trek" became, the series only lasted three seasons.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: Takumi on November 19, 2018, 12:56:27 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 19, 2018, 12:47:38 PM
Wasn't there a third spinoff of Law & Order that didn't last? I think it may have been called "Trial By Jury."
Yep. It was notable for the last appearance of Briscoe. Also its arrangement of the Law & Order theme was reused for the later seasons of Criminal Intent.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: english si on November 19, 2018, 01:34:14 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 17, 2018, 04:19:47 PMLife on Mars (US)
I know the US series, post-cancellation-announcement had a terrible ending, however the UK series' sequel had likewise with the finale. It aired a couple of days before Lost's infamously terrible finale, though I watched it pretty much straight after to try and get over the terribleness of Lost - it was a show I enjoyed more, but cared less about the theory stuff and wasn't what people were talking about, and it hurt in that same way, but more so. That same, crippling, "Well everything that's gone before, that I enjoyed so much, has been turned into ash. Thanks for wasting so much of my time - it was great until I saw this, now it's annoying and unpleasant" feeling.

Quote from: US 81 on November 18, 2018, 08:43:24 AMFirefly.
That's surely a 'fav because the network cancelled it'. It might have lasted a full season before hitting a sophomoric slump, but it would have got there as fatigue kicked in in the writer's room (I really don't think US TV schedules are conducive - sure some can pull it off - but there's a reason HBO, Netflix, etc go with 10-13 episodes a year max). The supplementary stuff (including the Big Damn Movie) is great, but part of that is because there was the time to craft it properly.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: Brandon on November 19, 2018, 04:06:00 PM
Quote from: Takumi on November 19, 2018, 12:56:27 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 19, 2018, 12:47:38 PM
Wasn't there a third spinoff of Law & Order that didn't last? I think it may have been called "Trial By Jury."
Yep. It was notable for the last appearance of Briscoe. Also its arrangement of the Law & Order theme was reused for the later seasons of Criminal Intent.

Well, the death of Jerry Orbach (playing Lenny Briscoe) might have had a little to do with it.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 19, 2018, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 19, 2018, 12:47:38 PM
Wasn't there a third spinoff of Law & Order that didn't last? I think it may have been called "Trial By Jury."

Not quite fitting the OP's criteria, but it's hard to believe that as big of a franchise as "Star Trek" became, the series only lasted three seasons.
There was also a spinoff called Law and Order: UK that lasted a lot longer than it should have. Particularly since, as I understand it, the scripts paid no attention to the substantial difference between UK and US criminal justice systems.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 19, 2018, 06:06:17 PM
Quote from: BamaZeus on November 19, 2018, 12:03:16 PM
Freaks and Geeks should have survived longer than it did
Oh yes, good call.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 19, 2018, 06:10:04 PM
Quote from: english si on November 19, 2018, 01:34:14 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 17, 2018, 04:19:47 PMLife on Mars (US)
I know the US series, post-cancellation-announcement had a terrible ending, however the UK series' sequel had likewise with the finale. It aired a couple of days before Lost's infamously terrible finale, though I watched it pretty much straight after to try and get over the terribleness of Lost - it was a show I enjoyed more, but cared less about the theory stuff and wasn't what people were talking about, and it hurt in that same way, but more so. That same, crippling, "Well everything that's gone before, that I enjoyed so much, has been turned into ash. Thanks for wasting so much of my time - it was great until I saw this, now it's annoying and unpleasant" feeling.
I agree, the finale was appalling, moreso now that I know that was the plan for the finale all along and not just a fuck-you to ABC for canceling the show.

I've been trying to watch the UK version, but I know very little about Manchester specifically and the UK in general, so I don't really get all of the various references. Though I finally got to see that weird "girl playing noughts and crosses with a clown"  test pattern I read about in a book.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: bandit957 on November 19, 2018, 06:38:49 PM
Quote from: BamaZeus on November 19, 2018, 12:03:16 PM
Freaks and Geeks should have survived longer than it did

I didn't regularly watch this show, but I burst out laughing when I happened to see the episode where the kid said, "Remember when I tried for a fart and it came out a poop?"
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: jon daly on November 19, 2018, 08:16:35 PM
Quote from: Henry on November 19, 2018, 09:25:31 AM
As a native Chicagoan, I would say Superior Donuts. I wish they'd add a third season to see what would become of a stellar cast that included the always brilliant veterans Katey Sagal and Judd Hirsch.

Another recent CBS sitcom that died earlier than it should've, IMO, was "The Millers" with Will Arnett. That may be the last network sitcom I've watched regularly.

If I'm watching junk TV, it's often basic cable stuff like (pseudo)History or Discovery and those have plenty of shows with the opposite problem; shows that could be faves if they developed and didn't get too repetitive.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: bandit957 on November 19, 2018, 09:10:50 PM
I think 'Enos' could have been a bigger hit.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: Mr_Northside on November 20, 2018, 02:10:23 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 19, 2018, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 19, 2018, 12:47:38 PM
Wasn't there a third spinoff of Law & Order that didn't last? I think it may have been called "Trial By Jury."

Not quite fitting the OP's criteria, but it's hard to believe that as big of a franchise as "Star Trek" became, the series only lasted three seasons.
There was also a spinoff called Law and Order: UK that lasted a lot longer than it should have. Particularly since, as I understand it, the scripts paid no attention to the substantial difference between UK and US criminal justice systems.

There was also the short lived Law & Order: Los Angeles (or it might have just been "LA")
I caught a bunch of the episodes, but it wasn't that great.  If I recall correctly, they decided Alfred Molina would make a better detective than an ADA about halfway into the season, and had to try and "explain" that to the audience. 
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 20, 2018, 05:20:16 PM
Quote from: Mr_Northside on November 20, 2018, 02:10:23 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 19, 2018, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 19, 2018, 12:47:38 PM
Wasn't there a third spinoff of Law & Order that didn't last? I think it may have been called "Trial By Jury."

Not quite fitting the OP's criteria, but it's hard to believe that as big of a franchise as "Star Trek" became, the series only lasted three seasons.
There was also a spinoff called Law and Order: UK that lasted a lot longer than it should have. Particularly since, as I understand it, the scripts paid no attention to the substantial difference between UK and US criminal justice systems.

There was also the short lived Law & Order: Los Angeles (or it might have just been "LA")
I caught a bunch of the episodes, but it wasn't that great.  If I recall correctly, they decided Alfred Molina would make a better detective than an ADA about halfway into the season, and had to try and "explain" that to the audience.
And Chicago Justice didn't even last a full season.  I'm sensing a pattern here.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: US71 on November 20, 2018, 08:38:44 PM
Quote from: Mr_Northside on November 20, 2018, 02:10:23 PM


There was also the short lived Law & Order: Los Angeles (or it might have just been "LA")
I caught a bunch of the episodes, but it wasn't that great.  If I recall correctly, they decided Alfred Molina would make a better detective than an ADA about halfway into the season, and had to try and "explain" that to the audience. 

Correct the first time. :)
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: Mark68 on November 21, 2018, 10:53:51 AM
Quote from: Henry on November 19, 2018, 09:25:31 AM
As a native Chicagoan, I would say Superior Donuts. I wish they'd add a third season to see what would become of a stellar cast that included the always brilliant veterans Katey Sagal and Judd Hirsch.

My wife and I liked that show. I was disappointed it got canceled. I enjoyed how they dealt with some relatively heavy topics.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: hbelkins on November 21, 2018, 02:26:26 PM
Quote from: Brandon on November 19, 2018, 04:06:00 PM
Quote from: Takumi on November 19, 2018, 12:56:27 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 19, 2018, 12:47:38 PM
Wasn't there a third spinoff of Law & Order that didn't last? I think it may have been called "Trial By Jury."
Yep. It was notable for the last appearance of Briscoe. Also its arrangement of the Law & Order theme was reused for the later seasons of Criminal Intent.

Well, the death of Jerry Orbach (playing Lenny Briscoe) might have had a little to do with it.

Didn't he quit the original L&O before he got sick?
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: Brandon on November 21, 2018, 02:38:41 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 21, 2018, 02:26:26 PM
Quote from: Brandon on November 19, 2018, 04:06:00 PM
Quote from: Takumi on November 19, 2018, 12:56:27 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 19, 2018, 12:47:38 PM
Wasn't there a third spinoff of Law & Order that didn't last? I think it may have been called "Trial By Jury."
Yep. It was notable for the last appearance of Briscoe. Also its arrangement of the Law & Order theme was reused for the later seasons of Criminal Intent.

Well, the death of Jerry Orbach (playing Lenny Briscoe) might have had a little to do with it.

Didn't he quit the original L&O before he got sick?

Yes, he did, so he could do the new show.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: paulthemapguy on November 22, 2018, 12:02:21 PM
The Dana Carvey Show.  It only lasted like 5-6 episodes before it was cut.  Look for the original episodes on Youtube.  They're downright hilarious.  You also get to see a young Steve Carell and a young Stephen Colbert in action.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 22, 2018, 12:58:32 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on November 22, 2018, 12:02:21 PM
The Dana Carvey Show.  It only lasted like 5-6 episodes before it was cut.  Look for the original episodes on Youtube.  They're downright hilarious.  You also get to see a young Steve Carell and a young Stephen Colbert in action.
Alas, the world wasn't ready for a sketch featuring Bill Clinton nursing a puppy during primetime on network television.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: Stephane Dumas on November 22, 2018, 04:06:38 PM
WKRP, CBS still moved its schedule from year to another. It's been a miracle then it menaged to last 4 years with the way CBS treated that series. Got more popular with the reruns.

Hee Haw was more lucky and menaged to survive the CBS Rural purge to continue to be produced in syndication until the early 1990s.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 22, 2018, 04:17:12 PM
Wasn't there another show in the same universe as Petticoat Junction and Green Acres?
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: hbelkins on November 22, 2018, 09:28:33 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 22, 2018, 04:17:12 PM
Wasn't there another show in the same universe as Petticoat Junction and Green Acres?

Beverly Hillbillies.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 22, 2018, 09:34:32 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2018, 09:28:33 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 22, 2018, 04:17:12 PM
Wasn't there another show in the same universe as Petticoat Junction and Green Acres?

Beverly Hillbillies.
I meant another show set in/near Hooterville. You are right, though, apparently Hooterville is mentioned on BH.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: roadman on November 23, 2018, 12:53:21 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 22, 2018, 09:34:32 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2018, 09:28:33 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 22, 2018, 04:17:12 PM
Wasn’t there another show in the same universe as Petticoat Junction and Green Acres?

Beverly Hillbillies.
I meant another show set in/near Hooterville. You are right, though, apparently Hooterville is mentioned on BH.
Beverly Hillbillies and Petticoat Junction didn't start to cross over until the later seasons of both series.  One of my favorite crossover episodes was when Mr. Drysdale wound up in the Ripley county jail when he was caught driving the Clampett's truck with some of Granny's "tonic" in the back and Elly's bear (who was drunk) in the front.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 23, 2018, 12:59:40 PM
Quote from: roadman on November 23, 2018, 12:53:21 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 22, 2018, 09:34:32 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2018, 09:28:33 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 22, 2018, 04:17:12 PM
Wasn't there another show in the same universe as Petticoat Junction and Green Acres?

Beverly Hillbillies.
I meant another show set in/near Hooterville. You are right, though, apparently Hooterville is mentioned on BH.
Beverly Hillbillies and Petticoat Junction didn't start to cross over until the later seasons of both series.  One of my favorite crossover episodes was when Mr. Drysdale wound up in the Ripley county jail when he was caught driving the Clampett's truck with some of Granny's "tonic" in the back and Elly's bear (who was drunk) in the front.
Wasn't Hooverville supposed to be relatively close to NYC? I thought the Douglases traveled back there frequently.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: roadman on November 23, 2018, 01:28:25 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 23, 2018, 12:59:40 PM
Quote from: roadman on November 23, 2018, 12:53:21 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 22, 2018, 09:34:32 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 22, 2018, 09:28:33 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 22, 2018, 04:17:12 PM
Wasn’t there another show in the same universe as Petticoat Junction and Green Acres?

Beverly Hillbillies.
I meant another show set in/near Hooterville. You are right, though, apparently Hooterville is mentioned on BH.
Beverly Hillbillies and Petticoat Junction didn't start to cross over until the later seasons of both series.  One of my favorite crossover episodes was when Mr. Drysdale wound up in the Ripley county jail when he was caught driving the Clampett's truck with some of Granny's "tonic" in the back and Elly's bear (who was drunk) in the front.
Wasn’t Hooverville supposed to be relatively close to NYC? I thought the Douglases traveled back there frequently.

Hooterville was at an undesignated distance and location west of Chicago, and required about four connections between NYC and Pixley.  This was established in the first episode of Green Acres when Lisa asked Oliver where Hooterville was.  Also, a little known fact.  The railroad initials "C&FW" in Petticoat Junction stood for "Chicago and Far Western", which was a play on Chicago and North Western and Chicago Great Western, two of the mainstay railroads in the Chicago area in the early 1960s.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: hbelkins on November 23, 2018, 01:47:40 PM
Wasn't it established that the Beverly Hillbillies were from Arkansas? I grew up thinking they were from Tennessee.

Was there ever an attempt to tie in Gomer Pyle to the BH/GA/PJ triad? I also remember there being a fourth show that had a connection, but can't remember what it was.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: kphoger on November 23, 2018, 02:08:16 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 23, 2018, 01:47:40 PM
Wasn't it established that the Beverly Hillbillies were from Arkansas?

They were from a fictional town in northwestern Arkansas called Bugtussle.  Jethro went to school in the town of Oxford, AR.  Your confusion is likely due to Grannie being from Tennessee originally, before her daughter Rose Ellen married Jed–upon which they moved to Arkansas.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 23, 2018, 02:09:56 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 23, 2018, 01:47:40 PM
Wasn't it established that the Beverly Hillbillies were from Arkansas? I grew up thinking they were from Tennessee.
Maybe they did in the Jim Varney movie? The Wikipedia entries for the TV series and movie just say "the Ozarks."
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: roadman on November 23, 2018, 02:16:19 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 23, 2018, 01:47:40 PM
Was there ever an attempt to tie in Gomer Pyle to the BH/GA/PJ triad? I also remember there being a fourth show that had a connection, but can't remember what it was.

Gomer Pyle was a spinoff of the Andy Griffith Show, and wouldn't have had any relation to those shows.  I vaguely recall there being a fourth show with a connection to the others (something about Eb's life after leaving the Douglas farm), but that it didn't get much traction due to the CBS "rural purge".
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: nexus73 on November 23, 2018, 02:20:28 PM
Irwin Allen's "Time Tunnel" lasted more than a season but it was a short lived series.  I bought the DVD sets for it.  Included was a pilot of a more modern version that was actually a decent show.  Too bad it was stillborn.

"The Invaders" was another short lived series.  A conclusion to the show was never reached.  The original "Star Trek" could have grown legs but NBC buried it by scheduling the show for 10 PM on Fridays on Season 3.

For those into post-apocalypse shows, "Jericho" was one with a lot of potential.  Fans demanded more so CBS did an abbreviated season to wrap it up.  "The Last Ship" lingered on too long for me though.

Rick

Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 23, 2018, 03:03:50 PM
Quote from: roadman on November 23, 2018, 02:16:19 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 23, 2018, 01:47:40 PM
Was there ever an attempt to tie in Gomer Pyle to the BH/GA/PJ triad? I also remember there being a fourth show that had a connection, but can't remember what it was.

Gomer Pyle was a spinoff of the Andy Griffith Show, and wouldn't have had any relation to those shows.  I vaguely recall there being a fourth show with a connection to the others (something about Eb's life after leaving the Douglas farm), but that it didn't get much traction due to the CBS "rural purge".

Wikipedia sez:

"There was no series finale. The final two episodes of Green Acres were backdoor pilots for Pam and Carol, a couple of shows that were never picked up by a network."

Was it one of these?
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: kphoger on November 23, 2018, 03:11:39 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 23, 2018, 03:03:50 PM
Quote from: roadman on November 23, 2018, 02:16:19 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 23, 2018, 01:47:40 PM
Was there ever an attempt to tie in Gomer Pyle to the BH/GA/PJ triad? I also remember there being a fourth show that had a connection, but can't remember what it was.

Gomer Pyle was a spinoff of the Andy Griffith Show, and wouldn't have had any relation to those shows.  I vaguely recall there being a fourth show with a connection to the others (something about Eb's life after leaving the Douglas farm), but that it didn't get much traction due to the CBS "rural purge".

Wikipedia sez:

"There was no series finale. The final two episodes of Green Acres were backdoor pilots for Pam and Carol, a couple of shows that were never picked up by a network."

Was it one of these?

I saw that too, but I can't seem to find any additional information about "Pam and Carol".
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 23, 2018, 03:13:31 PM
"Pam"  and "Carol"  were two separate shows. That text was italicized on Wikipedia, but not in my post.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: kphoger on November 23, 2018, 03:17:37 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 23, 2018, 03:13:31 PM
"Pam"  and "Carol"  were two separate shows. That text was italicized on Wikipedia, but not in my post.

Ah, yes.  I noticed that Pam and Carol were italicized, but I didn't noticed that and wasn't.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: bandit957 on November 23, 2018, 04:13:36 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 23, 2018, 01:47:40 PM
Wasn't it established that the Beverly Hillbillies were from Arkansas? I grew up thinking they were from Tennessee.

Was there ever an attempt to tie in Gomer Pyle to the BH/GA/PJ triad? I also remember there being a fourth show that had a connection, but can't remember what it was.

I think it was 'The Andy Griffith Show'.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: kphoger on November 23, 2018, 04:15:41 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on November 23, 2018, 04:13:36 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 23, 2018, 01:47:40 PM
Wasn't it established that the Beverly Hillbillies were from Arkansas? I grew up thinking they were from Tennessee.

Was there ever an attempt to tie in Gomer Pyle to the BH/GA/PJ triad? I also remember there being a fourth show that had a connection, but can't remember what it was.

I think it was 'The Andy Griffith Show'.

I'm not aware of that show having any connection to the other three.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: hbelkins on November 23, 2018, 04:39:45 PM
I knew Gomer Pyle was a spinoff of Andy Griffith, but for some odd reason, I thought there was an attempt to connect it to BH/GA/PJ.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 06:35:05 PM
"The office"


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Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: kphoger on November 23, 2018, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 23, 2018, 01:47:40 PM
Was there ever an attempt to tie in Gomer Pyle to the BH/GA/PJ triad? I also remember there being a fourth show that had a connection, but can't remember what it was.

Quote from: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 06:35:05 PM
"The office"

:no:
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 23, 2018, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 23, 2018, 01:47:40 PM
Was there ever an attempt to tie in Gomer Pyle to the BH/GA/PJ triad? I also remember there being a fourth show that had a connection, but can't remember what it was.

Quote from: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 06:35:05 PM
"The office"

:no:
I was putting a show , not replying to him.


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Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: kphoger on November 23, 2018, 07:13:09 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 23, 2018, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 23, 2018, 01:47:40 PM
Was there ever an attempt to tie in Gomer Pyle to the BH/GA/PJ triad? I also remember there being a fourth show that had a connection, but can't remember what it was.

Quote from: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 06:35:05 PM
"The office"

:no:
I was putting a show , not replying to him.

I know, dude!  I know.  It just struck me as funny.  Ahhh, nevermind.....
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 07:19:15 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 23, 2018, 07:13:09 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: kphoger on November 23, 2018, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 23, 2018, 01:47:40 PM
Was there ever an attempt to tie in Gomer Pyle to the BH/GA/PJ triad? I also remember there being a fourth show that had a connection, but can't remember what it was.

Quote from: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 06:35:05 PM
"The office"

:no:
I was putting a show , not replying to him.

I know, dude!  I know.  It just struck me as funny.  Ahhh, nevermind.....
Now im mad, because I was supposed to get the joke.


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Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 23, 2018, 07:36:13 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 06:35:05 PM
"The office"


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The UK version lasted as long as it needed to, and the US version lasted for far too long.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 07:36:48 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 23, 2018, 07:36:13 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 06:35:05 PM
"The office"


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The UK version lasted as long as it needed to, and the US version lasted for far too long.
You're crazy, I shall shun you.


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Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 23, 2018, 07:47:05 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 07:36:48 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 23, 2018, 07:36:13 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 06:35:05 PM
"The office"


iPhone
The UK version lasted as long as it needed to, and the US version lasted for far too long.
You're crazy, I shall shun you.


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I quit watching the US version when Michael dumped Pam's mom on her birthday in front of Pam and Jim. That wasn't the act of a socially awkward but warm-hearted doofus, that was the work of a flaming asshole. And that was approximately halfway through its run.

And if you think the UK version should have lasted longer, I suggest you watch David Brent: Life On The Road.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 08:21:52 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 23, 2018, 07:47:05 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 07:36:48 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 23, 2018, 07:36:13 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 06:35:05 PM
"The office"


iPhone
The UK version lasted as long as it needed to, and the US version lasted for far too long.
You're crazy, I shall shun you.


iPhone
I quit watching the US version when Michael dumped Pam's mom on her birthday in front of Pam and Jim. That wasn't the act of a socially awkward but warm-hearted doofus, that was the work of a flaming asshole. And that was approximately halfway through its run.

And if you think the UK version should have lasted longer, I suggest you watch David Brent: Life On The Road.
I never seen the UK version, but I know about it, I was speaking on the US version. The show is good until Michael leaves in season 8. You shoulda kept watching it, that was only a minor dumb thing Michael did


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Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: jon daly on November 23, 2018, 08:35:05 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 23, 2018, 07:36:13 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 06:35:05 PM
"The office"


iPhone
The UK version lasted as long as it needed to, and the US version lasted for far too long.

It was an awful day when jumptheshark.com was sold to TV Guide and all of their pages disappeared. Plenty of shows since then missed out on well-deserved jump the shark treatment. I didn't follow The Office regularly, but the Big Bang Theory is another show that's dragged on too long.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: kevinb1994 on November 23, 2018, 09:01:32 PM
Quote from: jon daly on November 23, 2018, 08:35:05 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 23, 2018, 07:36:13 PM
Quote from: Tonytone on November 23, 2018, 06:35:05 PM
"The office"


iPhone
The UK version lasted as long as it needed to, and the US version lasted for far too long.

It was an awful day when jumptheshark.com was sold to TV Guide and all of their pages disappeared. Plenty of shows since then missed out on well-deserved jump the shark treatment. I didn't follow The Office regularly, but the Big Bang Theory is another show that's dragged on too long.

Thankfully Jim Parsons realized that before the current season and now the current season is the final season of the Big Bang Theory. It will be interesting to see what replaces it in it's Thursday night primetime slot at 8/7 Central on CBS. They could extend Young Sheldon to a full hour but maybe not; a new show or reruns will probably take up the time slot.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: english si on November 24, 2018, 01:17:12 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 19, 2018, 06:10:04 PMI've been trying to watch the UK version, but I know very little about Manchester specifically and the UK in general, so I don't really get all of the various references.
The references are not particularly Manchester-specific. Though as I wasn't alive in the 70s, I didn't experience them - more the echo (and so your time at Reading Uni won't have helped). And most of them were, IIRC, rather general - there's one or two that relate to specific bits of cultural news that time forgot, rather than a more general nod to a popular show.

The BBC2 test card was still around until the change to digital in the early 00s, AFAIK - I certainly remember it (and as it was only late at night, I must have been a teenager), though I saw it more in the mocking of than the reality.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: MNHighwayMan on November 24, 2018, 05:20:55 AM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on November 23, 2018, 09:01:32 PM
Big Bang Theory ... Young Sheldon

Appropriate entries for a thread titled "Awful shows that should have been canceled but weren't."
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 24, 2018, 07:58:51 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on November 24, 2018, 05:20:55 AM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on November 23, 2018, 09:01:32 PM
Big Bang Theory ... Young Sheldon

Appropriate entries for a thread titled "Awful shows that should have been canceled but weren't."
Seconded.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 24, 2018, 08:01:44 AM
Quote from: english si on November 24, 2018, 01:17:12 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 19, 2018, 06:10:04 PMI've been trying to watch the UK version, but I know very little about Manchester specifically and the UK in general, so I don't really get all of the various references.
The references are not particularly Manchester-specific. Though as I wasn't alive in the 70s, I didn't experience them - more the echo (and so your time at Reading Uni won't have helped). And most of them were, IIRC, rather general - there's one or two that relate to specific bits of cultural news that time forgot, rather than a more general nod to a popular show
Sorry, I meant to say that I know very little about the UK in the 1970s. For example, there's a reference to Berni Inn that would have sailed over my head had I not read about it in a Brian Viner book recently.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: kevinb1994 on November 24, 2018, 10:03:34 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 24, 2018, 07:58:51 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on November 24, 2018, 05:20:55 AM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on November 23, 2018, 09:01:32 PM
Big Bang Theory ... Young Sheldon

Appropriate entries for a thread titled "Awful shows that should have been canceled but weren't."
Seconded.
Thirded.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: wanderer2575 on November 24, 2018, 10:46:08 AM
Quote from: jon daly on November 23, 2018, 08:35:05 PM
It was an awful day when jumptheshark.com was sold to TV Guide and all of their pages disappeared. Plenty of shows since then missed out on well-deserved jump the shark treatment.

Agreed.  The comments and summaries were an entertaining read, and I posted a lot of comments there myself.  Why TV Guide paid any amount of money to buy it and then completely dump the contents, I'll never understand.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 24, 2018, 11:53:27 AM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on November 24, 2018, 10:46:08 AM
Quote from: jon daly on November 23, 2018, 08:35:05 PM
It was an awful day when jumptheshark.com was sold to TV Guide and all of their pages disappeared. Plenty of shows since then missed out on well-deserved jump the shark treatment.

Agreed.  The comments and summaries were an entertaining read, and I posted a lot of comments there myself.  Why TV Guide paid any amount of money to buy it and then completely dump the contents, I'll never understand.
You two would've loved televisionwithoutpity.com, which...disappeared under mysterious circumstances.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: D-Dey65 on November 24, 2018, 12:39:43 PM
Quote from: jon daly on November 23, 2018, 08:35:05 PM
It was an awful day when jumptheshark.com was sold to TV Guide and all of their pages disappeared. Plenty of shows since then missed out on well-deserved jump the shark treatment. I didn't follow The Office regularly, but the Big Bang Theory is another show that's dragged on too long.
At least many of the old pages can still be saved on Internet Archives... and have been already.

Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: bandit957 on November 24, 2018, 03:20:21 PM
'Sesame Street' jumped the shark when they got "Elmo's World."
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: wanderer2575 on November 24, 2018, 04:50:23 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on November 24, 2018, 10:03:34 AM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 24, 2018, 07:58:51 AM
Quote from: MNHighwayMan on November 24, 2018, 05:20:55 AM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on November 23, 2018, 09:01:32 PM
Big Bang Theory ... Young Sheldon

Appropriate entries for a thread titled "Awful shows that should have been canceled but weren't."
Seconded.
Thirded.

I am perhaps the only person in America who has seen a couple episodes each of Seinfeld, South Park, The Simpsons, and Big Bang Theory, and disliked all of them.  Seinfeld had some funny stuff but the characters were such jerks that I couldn't enjoy it.  The others to me are just hands-down unfunny.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: paulthemapguy on November 24, 2018, 05:08:13 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 22, 2018, 12:58:32 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on November 22, 2018, 12:02:21 PM
The Dana Carvey Show.  It only lasted like 5-6 episodes before it was cut.  Look for the original episodes on Youtube.  They're downright hilarious.  You also get to see a young Steve Carell and a young Stephen Colbert in action.
Alas, the world wasn't ready for a sketch featuring Bill Clinton nursing a puppy during primetime on network television.

Is this really the reason it was cancelled?  That would be a really stupid reason.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: Tonytone on November 24, 2018, 05:10:19 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on November 24, 2018, 05:08:13 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 22, 2018, 12:58:32 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on November 22, 2018, 12:02:21 PM
The Dana Carvey Show.  It only lasted like 5-6 episodes before it was cut.  Look for the original episodes on Youtube.  They're downright hilarious.  You also get to see a young Steve Carell and a young Stephen Colbert in action.
Alas, the world wasn't ready for a sketch featuring Bill Clinton nursing a puppy during primetime on network television.

Is this really the reason it was cancelled?  That would be a really stupid reason.
Are you shocked? Im surprised the Colbert show & the jon stweart show made it this far, even with the new people.


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Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: hbelkins on November 24, 2018, 05:39:20 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on November 24, 2018, 04:50:23 PM

I am perhaps the only person in America who has seen a couple episodes each of Seinfeld, South Park, The Simpsons, and Big Bang Theory, and disliked all of them.  Seinfeld had some funny stuff but the characters were such jerks that I couldn't enjoy it.  The others to me are just hands-down unfunny.

I never could stand Seinfeld, nor did I get the attraction for it. I also never became a fan of South Park. I liked The Simpsons at first but it got old quick. And I'm indifferent to Big Bang.

Quote from: Tonytone on November 24, 2018, 05:10:19 PM
Are you shocked? Im surprised the Colbert show & the jon stweart show made it this far, even with the new people.


I'm sure my opinion of those two douchebags will come as no surprise to anyone here.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: abefroman329 on November 24, 2018, 05:51:28 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on November 24, 2018, 05:08:13 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on November 22, 2018, 12:58:32 PM
Quote from: paulthemapguy on November 22, 2018, 12:02:21 PM
The Dana Carvey Show.  It only lasted like 5-6 episodes before it was cut.  Look for the original episodes on Youtube.  They're downright hilarious.  You also get to see a young Steve Carell and a young Stephen Colbert in action.
Alas, the world wasn't ready for a sketch featuring Bill Clinton nursing a puppy during primetime on network television.

Is this really the reason it was cancelled?  That would be a really stupid reason.
I don't know the reason or reasons why it was canceled, but several people involved with the show think it was a bad idea. And that they should have listened to the network when they were advised not to do it.

And, to be clear, the issue wasn't that it was Bill Clinton. Any man would've been equally controversial.
Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: Tonytone on November 24, 2018, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on November 24, 2018, 05:39:20 PM
Quote from: wanderer2575 on November 24, 2018, 04:50:23 PM

I am perhaps the only person in America who has seen a couple episodes each of Seinfeld, South Park, The Simpsons, and Big Bang Theory, and disliked all of them.  Seinfeld had some funny stuff but the characters were such jerks that I couldn't enjoy it.  The others to me are just hands-down unfunny.

I never could stand Seinfeld, nor did I get the attraction for it. I also never became a fan of South Park. I liked The Simpsons at first but it got old quick. And I'm indifferent to Big Bang.

Quote from: Tonytone on November 24, 2018, 05:10:19 PM
Are you shocked? Im surprised the Colbert show & the jon stweart show made it this far, even with the new people.


I'm sure my opinion of those two douchebags will come as no surprise to anyone here.
Id be mad to, if the jokes they were exposing, had something to do with me & the people that "I look up to"  seems like People cant handle the truths of what they are doing to other people. Thats America for you.


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Title: Re: Shows That could have been Faves if the network did not cancel them
Post by: Alps on November 24, 2018, 06:29:46 PM
This was headed down a bad road the moment the word "That" was capitalized.