Poll
Question:
What speed limit?
Option 1: 85 mph
votes: 24
Option 2: 80 mph
votes: 51
Option 3: 75 mph
votes: 37
Option 4: 70 mph
votes: 22
Option 5: 65 mph
votes: 0
Option 6: 60 mph
votes: 0
Option 7: 55 mph
votes: 0
Option 8: 50 or bellow mph
votes: 5
70 for me.
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I've been on sections of the German Autobahn that have no speed limit at all.
I've driven on the 85-mph TX-130.
The highest number I've seen on a speed limit sign while driving was 120 km/h.
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2019, 04:51:49 PM
I've been on sections of the German Autobahn that have no speed limit at all.
I've driven on the 85-mph TX-130.
The highest number I've seen on a speed limit sign while driving was 120 km/h.
Same here, except instead of the Autobahn, I drove the "Montanabahn" (reasonable and prudent, except at night or for trucks) in 1996 while it was still in effect, until killjoys forced imposition of a fixed speed limit.
75 after Michigan increased the speed limit.
Who said 50??? :-D
70 on I-81 in West Virginia and on I-10 from Slidell to Biloxi. Driven parts of the PA Turnpike, I-93 in NH, and I-70 in MD that are now 70, but were 65 at the time.
Did see a 100 Km/hr sign in Quebec
If considering only what I have seen while actually on the road in real life - 75 MPH.
I've definitely seen 75 MPH before on the road, but I don't think I've ever seen 80 MPH (and definitely not 85 MPH or anything higher).
For me: 80 on I-15 in Utah.
80 MPH in Texas and Utah for Freeways. Surface routes the highest was several 75 MPH highways in Western Texas.
75, I-95 from Houlton to Orono.
80 mph on I-70 in eastern Utah, I-84 in Idaho, I-86 in Idaho, and I-94 east of Glendive, MT.
For me, it would have to be the 85 mph in Texas (on TX-130 Toll Road)...
80 in Montana, Idaho, Utah, and Wyoming.
The highest Ive seen is 70Mph. Somewhere in Pa, (The 1 I think). But the lowest Ive seen was 3 MPH
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80: I-25 in WY and I-29/90 in SD.
I have seen the north end of TX 130, does that count for 85? :P
75 mph in New Mexico and Arizona.
The highest number I've seen on a speed limit sign is 110 in Nova Scotia and Quintana Roo, but of course that's a lower actual speed limit.
I don't remember what the urban speed limits were on the motorway near Copenhagen's airport or in the Helsinki/Espoo area because I was on buses and was more interested in looking around than in the speed limits.
75 mph in several western states (some of which have sections that have gone up to 80 since I was last there)
Quote from: 1995hoo on January 19, 2019, 09:04:42 AM
The highest number I've seen on a speed limit sign is 110 in Nova Scotia and Quintana Roo, but of course that's a lower actual speed limit.
By the same token, the highest
number I've seen is 90, on the freeway to ReykjavÃk from the airport, but that's hardly remarkable once translated. The highest actual limit is 70 mph, owing to my lack of driving pretty much anywhere west of the Appalachians.
75 in rural Michigan. Highest I've seen on a non-freeway is 65, also in Michigan
On Freeway: 130 kph, in France. 80 mph in Montana and Idaho.
Non-Freeway: 70 mph
My dad has seen a 140 kph in Poland a few years back.
Lowest: 1 mph (was a pedestrian speed limit and temporary)
Happens to be a case of the highway number matching the speed limit: 80mph on I-80 in rural Nevada and in western Utah.
If I recall correctly, 75 on I-90 in Western Montana (2011).
130 km/h in France and Italy. That translates to 81 mph, which is not an option on the poll.
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 20, 2019, 12:29:05 PM
130 km/h in France and Italy. That translates to 81 mph, which is not an option on the poll.
Just round to 80.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 20, 2019, 12:43:33 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 20, 2019, 12:29:05 PM
130 km/h in France and Italy. That translates to 81 mph, which is not an option on the poll.
Just round to 80.
It's similar to those questions with answers like:
* Every day
* Once per week
* Once per month
* A few times per year
* Never
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 20, 2019, 12:43:33 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 20, 2019, 12:29:05 PM
130 km/h in France and Italy. That translates to 81 mph, which is not an option on the poll.
Just round to 80.
The poll also doesn't have an option for "no speed limit", which at least two of us have experienced.
This topic doesn't really need a poll, anyway. Just because you can do a poll doesn't mean you should.
Quote from: oscar on January 20, 2019, 12:51:08 PM
Just because you can do a poll post doesn't mean you should.
Fixed.
TX-130, the 85 MPH bypass around Austin.
80 in west Texas.
75 for me after finally hitting I-95 in its northern stretch in Maine last summer.
Considering different classes of roads, I've been on the 85 mph toll road in Texas, 80 mph Interstates, 75 mph urban freeways, and 75 mph narrow two-lane roads.
Regarding urban freeways, I-20 in Midland doesn't look urban, but it definitely has urban-level traffic, so I count it for this purpose. I found that the speed limit was too fast when a long line of cars backed up an exit onto the freeway and drivers were suddenly pulling onto the shoulder to get in line. That limit has been reduced to 65. I-20 in Abilene and the 183A, Loop 1, and SH 45N toll roads aren't exactly urban. I don't count the 75 mph managed lanes because they're managed so as not to act like urban freeways. I'd say the highest truly urban freeways I've been on are I-20 across Fort Worth and Arlington, and I-35W in south Fort Worth, with speed limits of 70.
I've seen 140 km/h in Bulgaria
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on January 19, 2019, 01:19:23 AM
I have seen the north end of TX 130, does that count for 85? :P
The northern section of TX-130 isn't even 85 mph.
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 19, 2019, 08:32:22 PM
a pedestrian speed limit
wtf ??
Quote from: kphoger on January 21, 2019, 03:34:43 PM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on January 19, 2019, 01:19:23 AM
I have seen the north end of TX 130, does that count for 85? :P
The northern section of TX-130 isn't even 85 mph.
Quote from: Hurricane Rex on January 19, 2019, 08:32:22 PM
a pedestrian speed limit
wtf ??
Maybe it was in a high security wildlife refugee?
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 21, 2019, 04:14:05 PM
Maybe it was in a high security wildlife refugee?
Now I'm imagining some deer with a Secret Service security detail.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 21, 2019, 04:14:05 PM
Maybe it was in a high security wildlife refugee?
A refugee
from the wildlife? or is the wildlife fleeing from something else? I'm confused.
Quote from: kphoger on January 21, 2019, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 21, 2019, 04:14:05 PM
Maybe it was in a high security wildlife refugee?
A refugee from the wildlife? or is the wildlife fleeing from something else? I'm confused.
A refugee from security wildlife (aka security robots) who happens to be high (unclear whether it's due to elevation or if it's the other kind of high).
Quote from: 1 on January 21, 2019, 04:25:55 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 21, 2019, 04:20:25 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 21, 2019, 04:14:05 PM
Maybe it was in a high security wildlife refugee?
A refugee from the wildlife? or is the wildlife fleeing from something else? I'm confused.
A refugee from security wildlife (aka security robots) who happens to be high (unclear whether it's due to elevation or if it's the other kind of high).
Nah, a place with wildlife that's super sensitive to fast things. I really dunno, just looking for an explanation.
80 MPH. There's one less than 3 miles from my home :D And yeah I've driven on lots of 80 MPH roads. Nothing higher though. Besides the "higher number, not higher limit" of 110 km/h (68 MPH) in Alberta.
70 for a surface road in Montana...85 for a freeway (SH-130 in TX...)
(https://i.imgur.com/Xp9aNxW.jpg)
Highest: 130 km/h in the Netherlands
Lowest: 5 km/h
I seen 75 personally here in Houston. I know west Texas hits up to 85.
Quote from: Perfxion on January 24, 2019, 10:51:13 AM
I seen 75 personally here in Houston. I know west Texas hits up to 85.
Actually, only one highway near Austin is at 85. West Texas (and the rest of the state, for that matter) maxes out at 80 mph.
I've seen 70 MPH in PA as a passenger, but haven't driven any of the upgraded roadways since before they were upgraded. On non-freeways, the highest I've seen is 55. On 2-lane roads, the highest I've seen posted is 50, but there are grey areas where 55 is posted before the road drops to 2 lanes, and there is a significant distance until a lower posted limit appears (this happens on NJ 73 South where it drops to 2 lanes after the Atlantic City Expressway).
Quote from: bzakharin on January 24, 2019, 11:17:48 AM
I've seen 70 MPH in PA as a passenger, but haven't driven any of the upgraded roadways since before they were upgraded. On non-freeways, the highest I've seen is 55. On 2-lane roads, the highest I've seen posted is 50, but there are grey areas where 55 is posted before the road drops to 2 lanes, and there is a significant distance until a lower posted limit appears (this happens on NJ 73 South where it drops to 2 lanes after the Atlantic City Expressway).
If we're breaking it down by type of road, for me it's the following:
Interstate/motorway/other freeway–75 mph
Divided highway with at-grade intersections–70 mph
Two-lane road–65 mph, although I'm pretty sure I recall Mexico 307 between Playa del Carmen and Tulum being a two-lane road posted at 110 km/h back in 2002. Street View shows it's now four-lane divided and posted at 100.
East of the Mississippi the highest I can recall on any two-lane road is 60 mph on various roads in Florida.
I have never seen above 55 on a non freeway.
Breaking it out:
-Interstate/Freeway: 70 (first - I-93 NH)
-Non-freeway: 65 (Corridor L)
-Two-lane road: 100 kph (A-955, A-30)
My breakdown:
Toll freeway: 85mph (southern part of TX 130 toll road)
Interstate or other freeway: 80mph (multiple freeways in Mountain/Great Plains states)
Divided non-freeway: 75mph (multiple US and state highways in west and south Texas)
2-lane: 75mph (at least one US highway in east Texas)
As you might guess, Texas is my favorite state for driving.
for the writer:
Freeway: 80 in Texas and Utah
at-grade multi-lane with median: 65 many locations
at-grade multi-lane with center turn lane: 60 Arkansas
2-lane: 75 in Texas, with a side of speed traps
My breakdown -
Freeway / Interstate - 85 MPH, TX-130
Four-Lane At-Grade with Intersections - 75 MPH, U.S. 77, U.S. 59, U.S. 281, TX-35, TX-290, etc.
2-Lane Roadway - 75 MPH, U.S. 59, TX-35, FM 2678, US-83, etc.
The beauty is how wide open Texas is, there's not an interstate everywhere. But you get some pretty damn high speeds (mostly 70, a lot also 75) almost anywhere in Texas to get where you're going, two lane, four-lane, freeway, etc.
Since we're breaking this down:
Interstate/freeway: 80 mph, various rural Interstates
Non-interstate freeway: 70 mph, US 20 in Idaho
Divided highway: 75 mph, US 84 in Texas
2-lane highway: 70 mph, various highways in Texas
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 24, 2019, 09:38:07 PM
My breakdown -
Freeway / Interstate - 85 MPH, TX-130
Four-Lane At-Grade with Intersections - 75 MPH, U.S. 77, U.S. 59, U.S. 281, TX-35, TX-290, etc.
2-Lane Roadway - 75 MPH, U.S. 59, TX-35, FM 2678, US-83, etc.
The beauty is how wide open Texas is, there's not an interstate everywhere. But you get some pretty damn high speeds (mostly 70, a lot also 75) almost anywhere in Texas to get where you're going, two lane, four-lane, freeway, etc.
Texas don't discriminate. :D
75 mph is the highest I have encountered driving, but only on freeways. 70 on both non freeways 2 and 4 lane roads, and both in the Lone Star State.
If we're gonna break it out:
Interstate: 80 (various in ID, UT, MT)
Non-Interstate Freeway: 70 (various, including US-95 and US-20 in ID, parts of US-395 in WA, and parts of CA-99)
Divided Expressway with at-grades: 70 (parts of US-395 in WA, probably more)
2 Lane Highway: 70 (US-95 in OR, US-20 in ID, various in NV and MT)
Bonus:
Non state maintained road: 65 (Clark County 215 in Las Vegas)
Non state maintained, non-freeway: 60 (Addison Ave East of Twin Falls, ID)
OK, fine, I'll do it too.
Undivided highway: 75 mph
Divided surface highway: 75 mph
Freeway: 85 mph
Freeway: 75 (various western states)
Divided Expressway with at-grades: 70 (US 30 in Ohio)
2 Lane Highway: 65 (various western states)
80 in Utah and Texas.
I have been on I-90 across South Dakota, which has a speed limit of 80 mph.
Funny, all the mentions of TX-130 and its 85 mph limit, but I thought I-10 and I-20 also had an 85 mph limit in western Texas.
Quote from: webny99 on March 08, 2019, 12:31:03 PM
Funny, all the mentions of TX-130 and its 85 mph limit, but I thought I-10 and I-20 also had an 85 mph limit in western Texas.
Welcome back!
They're at 80 mph.
70 mph is what I remember, but I have have been on a road with 75 before.
Quote from: webny99 on March 08, 2019, 12:31:03 PM
I have been on I-90 across South Dakota, which has a speed limit of 80 mph.
Funny, all the mentions of TX-130 and its 85 mph limit, but I thought I-10 and I-20 also had an 85 mph limit in western Texas.
I-10 and 20 are 80 mph in western Texas. Oddly enough Michigan's max speed is now 75 mph and the closest state with a speed limit that high or higher is Arkansas. South Dakota is 80 mph but North Dakota is 75 mph seems like it'd be the same to me.
Quote from: Flint1979 on March 09, 2019, 09:54:35 AM
Quote from: webny99 on March 08, 2019, 12:31:03 PM
I have been on I-90 across South Dakota, which has a speed limit of 80 mph.
Funny, all the mentions of TX-130 and its 85 mph limit, but I thought I-10 and I-20 also had an 85 mph limit in western Texas.
I-10 and 20 are 80 mph in western Texas. Oddly enough Michigan's max speed is now 75 mph and the closest state with a speed limit that high or higher is Arkansas. South Dakota is 80 mph but North Dakota is 75 mph seems like it'd be the same to me.
West Virginia is currently going through legislation to increase their's to 75 MPH. North Carolina tried for 75 MPH about five years ago though didn't pass fully, though could happen again the future.
Quote from: kphoger on January 18, 2019, 04:51:49 PM
I've been on sections of the German Autobahn that have no speed limit at all.
When I drove the Autobahn in the '60s, there was only one section (near Stuttgart) where I even SAW a speed limit. About 100 klicks as I recall due to the hilly terrain and narrow lanes.
Freeway: 85 mph
Divided highway: 75 mph
Multi-lane highway with a center turn lane: 75 mph
2-lane road: 75 mph
All in Texas
80 on the Interstate almost all the way across the state, but I've been on no-limit autobahns too (not the driver, I was too young at the time). My dad said his average speed on a no-limit autobahn was 100 mph. For everyone saying 100 kph is the highest they've ever seen, it's not. 100 kph translates to about 62 mph.
Quote from: X99 on March 24, 2019, 04:31:53 PM
For everyone saying 100 kph is the highest they've ever seen, it's not. 100 kph translates to about 62 mph.
100 is the highest
number many people have seen on a speed limit sign.
I've never seen "kph" anywhere because there's no such thing.
Quote from: webny99 on March 24, 2019, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: X99 on March 24, 2019, 04:31:53 PM
For everyone saying 100 kph is the highest they've ever seen, it's not. 100 kph translates to about 62 mph.
100 is the highest number many people have seen on a speed limit sign.
The thread title is highest speed limit, not highest number.
Quote from: X99 on March 24, 2019, 04:55:32 PM
Quote from: webny99 on March 24, 2019, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: X99 on March 24, 2019, 04:31:53 PM
For everyone saying 100 kph is the highest they've ever seen, it's not. 100 kph translates to about 62 mph.
100 is the highest number many people have seen on a speed limit sign.
The thread title is highest speed limit, not highest number.
Who cares? Who said you get to dictate how people are allowed to respond?
70-75 MPH for me though.
Quote from: webny99 on March 24, 2019, 04:37:27 PM
Quote from: X99 on March 24, 2019, 04:31:53 PM
For everyone saying 100 kph is the highest they've ever seen, it's not. 100 kph translates to about 62 mph.
100 is the highest number many people have seen on a speed limit sign.
I've seen 130 by myself. 120 is the highest number I regularly see (75 mph in your units).
Heh. By that standard, I have seen 120, too.
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 24, 2019, 04:55:05 PM
I've never seen "kph" anywhere because there's no such thing.
They're my initials.
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 24, 2019, 04:55:05 PM
I've never seen "kph" anywhere because there's no such thing.
It's for "klicks per hour". :)
Quote from: US 89 on March 25, 2019, 02:23:21 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on March 24, 2019, 04:55:05 PM
I've never seen "kph" anywhere because there's no such thing.
It's for "klicks per hour". :)
"Klicks" makes me want to vomit. (I've also heard "klickers" - not sure which is worse!)
Quote from: webny99 on March 25, 2019, 09:48:59 PM
(I've also heard "klickers" - not sure which is worse!)
That's the thing I use to change the channel on the television.
75 in Colorado and Nebraska and 110 km/hr in rural Victoria, Australia.
I have been to Texas but nowhere where there is an 80 limit.
Don't know if this fits, but I heard somewhere that US 66 was originally planned to be an Autobahn-style highway with a 100 mph speed limit. Two corners on the south end of the Veterans Parkway in Bloomington, Illinois, were built to handle 100-mph traffic.
Quote from: X99 on March 26, 2019, 01:10:14 PM
Don't know if this fits, but I heard somewhere that US 66 was originally planned to be an Autobahn-style highway with a 100 mph speed limit. Two corners on the south end of the Veterans Parkway in Bloomington, Illinois, were built to handle 100-mph traffic.
Not originally. The US highway network predates the autobahn and the concept of freeways. It would not surprise me if IDOT (or whatever it was called post-WWII) wanted to convert US 66 to some sort of autobahn-style road before the interstate network was approved in 1956, given that highway's importance to the Illinois economy. Eisenhower wasn't the only person impressed with the first German autobahns.
The old four-lane segments of US 66 in Illinois have a lot of beautiful broad curves besides Bloomington. The old US 66 bypasses of Lincoln, Pontiac, Litchfield and other communities can also handle high speed traffic.
I got to drive on the "Montanabahn" in October, 1997. And it was not just freeways that were "derestricted" but most rural 2 lane state highways as well. I drove I-90 to Missoula and then the next day went up 93 to Kalispell and Whitefish, then back down US 2 to Spokane and spent that night there. (Since I was a bit unclear at the time what they would consider "reasonable and prudent" I chose to keep to 70 - 75 on I-90 and about 65 on the 2 lanes, except a couple of times when it started raining when I slowed to 55.) In the short time I was there I only saw 2 vehicles which were "abusing" the "R&P" standard and both were "company" pickups and both had Idaho plates. (Not the same company though.)
I have been on a lot of 75 routes since but have not made it back to any of the ones later increased to 80 yet. I just have not had any reason to go back to Idaho, Montana or Utah, etc. in recent years. I am thinking of going over to Idaho or Montana later this year just so I can say I have been on an 80 m.p.h. highway.
80 MPH, on I-80 in Wyoming.
The highest speed limit I've seen in person is 80 MPH on I-29 in South Dakota.
To break it down:
Freeway/Interstate: 80 MPH on I-29 in South Dakota
Expressway with intersections: 70 MPH on US-83 and ND-13 in North Dakota
Two-laner: 65 MPH on various US and State Routes in North Dakota and South Dakota
Mine has changed, it is now 75 on I-95 between Old Town and Houlton.
In America the highest I've seen is 80 but I've been on the German Autobahn where the advised speed limit is 130 km/h which is... 81 mph.
I've driven on segments of I-80 in Wyoming and I-84 in Idaho that were subject to 80 limits. I have ridden, but have not driven, on segments of German Autobahn that were derestricted and on French autoroutes on clear dry days, when a 130 km/h limit applies (going down to 110 km/h in rain).
Quote from: J N Winkler on September 04, 2019, 11:24:57 AM
I've driven on segments of I-80 in Wyoming and I-84 in Idaho that were subject to 80 limits.
I-90 in South Dakota also has an 80 mph limit.
Quote from: J N Winkler on September 04, 2019, 11:24:57 AM
I have ridden, but have not driven, on segments of German Autobahn that were derestricted and on French autoroutes on clear dry days, when a 130 km/h limit applies (going down to 110 km/h in rain).
130 km/h roughly translates to 80 mph, which is high by our standards, but actually doesn't seem that high for Europe. Pretty much any freeway in Ontario has traffic routinely moving at 140-150 km/h despite the 100 km/h limit.
Mine has recently changed to 80 mph, on parts of I-80 in Wyoming, Utah and Nevada
155 for me. Someone spray painted a 1 on a 55 mph sign, but it's gone now.
Quote from: 1 on September 04, 2019, 12:18:49 PM
155 for me. Someone spray painted a 1 on a 55 mph sign, but it's gone now.
Damn it. I saw a Speed Limit 151 this weekend (on a 5mph sign).
Quote from: 1 on September 04, 2019, 12:18:49 PM
155 for me. Someone spray painted a 1 on a 55 mph sign, but it's gone now.
Cannonball Run II, go to :55 mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cArRQP39qjA
Highest on a freeway was 75 MPH on US-131 up north in Michigan. Highest on a non-freeway would be 65 MPH on several state routes in northern Michigan.
For me, the highest limit on a freeway I've driven on was 130 km/h on a couple of different autopistas outside of Buenos Aires, Argentina. They also had variable speed limits that varied by lane - far right lane was 80, middle lanes were 100/110 and the farthest left was 130 (iirc).
80 in Utah
130 km/h on E18 in Finland (but now I believe the highest allowed there is 120 km/h now) and 80 MPH on I-15 in Utah.
Quote from: cpzilliacus on September 11, 2019, 06:40:16 AM
130 km/h on E18 in Finland (but now I believe the highest allowed there is 120 km/h now) and 80 MPH on I-15 in Utah.
I can't find much information on this old limit. About what time frame were you in Finland?
It just got a little easier (for most of us, anyways) to see 110 km/h!
110 is now posted on 3 Ontario highways (https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/highway-speed-limits-jump-to-110-km-h-in-pilot-project-1.5295253): A segment of the QEW, ON 402, and most of ON 417.
Obviously, 110 km/h isn't technically the highest speed most of us have seen (it translates to about 68 mph). But, numerically, it is certainly the highest speed limit that I have seen while on the road.
And, it is certainly conceivable that someone from Ontario has never seen a limit higher than that; especially if they don't travel much, given that NY and much of New England don't have limits higher than 65 mph. Heck, if I hadn't been west of Erie, PA, 110 km/h would be the outright highest speed limit (in terms of speed) that I have seen too!
Quote from: webny99 on September 30, 2019, 12:22:29 PM
And, it is certainly conceivable that someone from Ontario has never seen a limit higher than that; especially if they don't travel much, given that NY and much of New England don't have limits higher than 65 mph. Heck, if I hadn't been west of Erie, PA, 110 km/h would be the outright highest speed limit (in terms of speed) that I have seen too!
What about the northern portion of US 15 in PA? Or I-476?
Quote from: vdeane on September 30, 2019, 12:46:20 PM
Quote from: webny99 on September 30, 2019, 12:22:29 PM
And, it is certainly conceivable that someone from Ontario has never seen a limit higher than that; especially if they don't travel much, given that NY and much of New England don't have limits higher than 65 mph. Heck, if I hadn't been west of Erie, PA, 110 km/h would be the outright highest speed limit (in terms of speed) that I have seen too!
What about the northern portion of US 15 in PA? Or I-476?
Whoops. I did think about PA itself before positng, only long enough to consider I-90, which is all 65 mph except the awful 55 mph through Erie. My statement would have been accurate a few years ago, but you are right, PA does have some 70 mph segments now.
I've been on the 70 mph segment of US 15 a few times, and same for I-380, but I was not aware that I-476 is (partially?) 70 mph.
Most of I-476 is 70 mph IIRC, despite the substandard design.
PennDOT only posts 70 mph I believe on the turnpikes. US-15 is 65 mph.
Edit -
From my knowledge of driving some of Pennsylvania highways, I thought this was the case, but it appears I-99 has a 70 mph stretch, and isn't tolled or part of the Turnpike after looking on Street View.
Quote from: sprjus4 on September 30, 2019, 04:50:01 PM
Quote from: webny99 on September 30, 2019, 02:51:09 PM
Quote from: vdeane on September 30, 2019, 12:46:20 PM
Quote from: webny99 on September 30, 2019, 12:22:29 PM
And, it is certainly conceivable that someone from Ontario has never seen a limit higher than that; especially if they don't travel much, given that NY and much of New England don't have limits higher than 65 mph. Heck, if I hadn't been west of Erie, PA, 110 km/h would be the outright highest speed limit (in terms of speed) that I have seen too!
What about the northern portion of US 15 in PA? Or I-476?
Whoops. I did think about PA itself before positng, only long enough to consider I-90, which is all 65 mph except the awful 55 mph through Erie. My statement would have been accurate a few years ago, but you are right, PA does have some 70 mph segments now.
I've been on the 70 mph segment of US 15 a few times, and same for I-380, but I was not aware that I-476 is (partially?) 70 mph.
Most of I-476 is 70 mph IIRC, despite the substandard design.
PennDOT only posts 70 mph I believe on the turnpikes. US-15 is 65 mph.
The worst 55 mph stretch in PA has to be I-70 south of Breezewood. There's little reason for it to not be 65
Quote from: ftballfan on September 30, 2019, 05:16:23 PM
The worst 55 mph stretch in PA has to be I-70 south of Breezewood. There's little reason for it to not be 65
55 mph may be the posted limit, but the real speed is more like 70 - 80 mph. I once tried 55 mph driving that. I never passed anyone, and nearly got rear ended at least 10 times.
It drops from 70 mph to 55 mph as you cross the state line, and it's absurd.
Speed Limit 55 - Next 23 Miles; Welcome to Pennsylvania - https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7235765,-78.18383,3a,37.5y,25.63h,85.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRlbWmoIKSEPxRlWMvvE7Fg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Welcome to Maryland; Speed Limit 70 -
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7216259,-78.1854944,3a,75y,221.46h,78.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFZX3esXuzxBw9b-vInjG2g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Quote from: sprjus4 on September 30, 2019, 05:28:49 PM
Quote from: ftballfan on September 30, 2019, 05:16:23 PM
The worst 55 mph stretch in PA has to be I-70 south of Breezewood. There's little reason for it to not be 65
55 mph may be the posted limit, but the real speed is more like 70 - 80 mph. I once tried 55 mph driving that. I never passed anyone, and nearly got rear ended at least 10 times.
It drops from 70 mph to 55 mph as you cross the state line, and it's absurd.
Speed Limit 55 - Next 23 Miles; Welcome to Pennsylvania - https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7235765,-78.18383,3a,37.5y,25.63h,85.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRlbWmoIKSEPxRlWMvvE7Fg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Welcome to Maryland; Speed Limit 70 -
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.7216259,-78.1854944,3a,75y,221.46h,78.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFZX3esXuzxBw9b-vInjG2g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Substandard entrance and exit ramps are what most likely keeps this section of I-70 at 55. PSP also has (or at least used to have) predatory enforcement of the 55 mph limit. It's been a few years since I was last on that section, but any time I was ever on it, I saw several vehicles pulled over; presumably for speeding.
Quote from: webny99 on September 30, 2019, 02:51:09 PM
I've been on the 70 mph segment of US 15 a few times, and same for I-380, but I was not aware that I-476 is (partially?) 70 mph.
Quote from: sprjus4 on September 30, 2019, 04:50:01 PM
Most of I-476 is 70 mph IIRC, despite the substandard design.
PennDOT only posts 70 mph I believe on the turnpikes. US-15 is 65 mph.
Edit -
From my knowledge of driving some of Pennsylvania highways, I thought this was the case, but it appears I-99 has a 70 mph stretch, and isn't tolled or part of the Turnpike after looking on Street View.
PennDOT and the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission are separate entities. The PTC basically raised everything that was previously 65 to 70 once their initial testing was done. PennDOT is far more conservative, but parts of US 15, I-99, I-79, I-80, and I-380 all have 70 mph limits.
Quote from: sprjus4 on September 30, 2019, 04:50:01 PM
Most of I-476 is 70 mph IIRC, despite the substandard design.
PennDOT only posts 70 mph I believe on the turnpikes. US-15 is 65 mph.
Edit -
From my knowledge of driving some of Pennsylvania highways, I thought this was the case, but it appears I-99 has a 70 mph stretch, and isn't tolled or part of the Turnpike after looking on Street View.
The I-99 segment posted at 70 mph was definitely refreshing on our way back from Toronto this summer because it came after a couple of hours spent mostly on two-lane roads. They were pretty good two-lane roads, but because of the truck traffic it sure was nice to get to open it up again.
I-476 had lower speed limits in the Philadelphia area up to, IIRC, roughly the end of the work zone at the northern end of the widened portion; the speed limit also dropped through the tunnel and for the whole portion to the north of the end of the ticket system.
I-84 in NY is the worst 55 mph limit.
Quote from: sprjus4 on September 30, 2019, 04:50:01 PM
Most of I-476 is 70 mph IIRC, despite the substandard design.
PennDOT only posts 70 mph I believe on the turnpikes. US-15 is 65 mph.
Edit -
From my knowledge of driving some of Pennsylvania highways, I thought this was the case, but it appears I-99 has a 70 mph stretch, and isn't tolled or part of the Turnpike after looking on Street View.
As others have stated, US 15 is 70 mph, but only north of Trout Run.
The general rule with the Turnpike is 70 mph generally, with 55 mph through tunnels and toll plazas (as well as construction zones), plus the odd 45 or 35 mph zones approaching the ends of some of the extensions.
(Also, the toll roads in PA are owned and operated by the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission, not PennDOT, including speed limits.)
Didn't realize how unusual 70 was in Pennsylvania. Last time I was out there (June), I went from DC up towards Victor, using US-15. Bit infuriating to enter into New York, switch to an interstate, and then suddenly have to bring it down to 65? I don't get it.
My point being, I've only driven a few major roads in PA, and one of them was posted at 70, so I would have thought it was a bit more common.
Quote from: jakeroot on September 30, 2019, 11:20:24 PM
Didn't realize how unusual 70 was in Pennsylvania. Last time I was out there (June), I went from DC up towards Victor, using US-15. Bit infuriating to enter into New York, switch to an interstate, and then suddenly have to bring it down to 65? I don't get it.
My point being, I've only driven a few major roads in PA, and one of them was posted at 70, so I would have thought it was a bit more common.
From what I've seen, I wouldn't say it's unusual, just not the "norm". Just about every segment of turnpike is posted at 70 mph, with a few other freeways and interstate highways posted at 70 mph. The default speed limit though is 65 mph.
Compare that to, say, Virginia, where just about every highway was 65 mph
(I-85 had an exception and was 70 mph since 2006) and when they raised the speed limit to 70 mph in 2010, just about all the rural interstate mileage was increased to 70 mph, it wasn't just a select few highways like in Pennsylvania.
New York ought to raise their rural speed limit to 70 mph. Same goes with New Jersey. On a road like the New Jersey Turnpike, it's easy to be flowing along smoothly with everybody else on the road, then look down at your speedometer and you're doing 80 - 85 mph. You don't really stand out though, because everybody else is doing that same speed essentially.
The turnpike could reasonably even be as high as 75 mph, but definitely should at least be posted at 70 mph.
Quote from: jakeroot on September 30, 2019, 11:20:24 PM
Bit infuriating to enter into New York, switch to an interstate, and then suddenly have to bring it down to 65? I don't get it.
That's New York for you. The nice thing is, you don't really have to worry about a speeding ticket until you hit 80 (or speed limit +15), so traffic still moves along just as good if not better than it does in neighboring states.
Quote from: jakeroot on September 30, 2019, 11:20:24 PM
Didn't realize how unusual 70 was in Pennsylvania. Last time I was out there (June), I went from DC up towards Victor, using US-15.
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My point being, I've only driven a few major roads in PA, and one of them was posted at 70, so I would have thought it was a bit more common.
I wouldn't say 70 mph is rare in PA, but US 15 is actually one of the stranger 70 mph segments (IMO), which may be why, after seeing 70 on that road in particular, you assumed it was the norm. That stretch of US 15 is the only 70 mph segment I've been on
period where I don't feel comfortable setting the cruise to upper 70's-80 mph, due to the curvature and the grades. Segments like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4231903,-77.0821507,12.67z/data=!5m1!1e1), for example, I would imagine being among the
last rural freeways to switch to 70 mph, rather than the first.
If you're looking for a list of 70 mph segments, vdeane hit on all the main ones above. It's certainly not all of the rural freeways, but it's a pretty good chunk of them, including most everything maintained by PTC.
In fact, I-90, I-78, and I-81 (?) are the only 2di's that don't have any 70 mph segments. As I mentioned earlier, I-90 is still stuck at 65 mph, despite being significantly flatter and straighter than US 15 -- but 65 mph is a breeze compared to the 12+ mile 55 mph segment near Erie!
Quote from: sprjus4 on September 30, 2019, 11:27:51 PM
The turnpike could reasonably even be as high as 75 mph, but definitely should at least be posted at 70 mph.
If the speed limit on the PA Turnpike was 10 mph
higher than the Thruway, I think that would be the biggest irony in roadgeek history. You literally couldn't have 2 more opposite extremes than those 2 roads when it comes to design standards, median widths, etc. :spin:
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 18, 2019, 04:35:33 PM
70 for me.
I forget which airport it was that showed the "250Kt speed limit to 30 NM". That is the general rule in Class B airspace in the US, but one airport (it may have been foreign) actually POSTED the limit. I have never flown equipment that was capable of much above 200Kt.
Quote from: michravera on October 01, 2019, 04:02:55 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 18, 2019, 04:35:33 PM
70 for me.
I forget which airport it was that showed the "250Kt speed limit to 30 NM". That is the general rule in Class B airspace in the US, but one airport (it may have been foreign) actually POSTED the limit. I have never flown equipment that was capable of much above 200Kt.
250 under 10,000 feet?
Quote from: webny99 on October 01, 2019, 02:38:27 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on September 30, 2019, 11:27:51 PM
The turnpike could reasonably even be as high as 75 mph, but definitely should at least be posted at 70 mph.
If the speed limit on the PA Turnpike was 10 mph higher than the Thruway, I think that would be the biggest irony in roadgeek history. You literally couldn't have 2 more opposite extremes than those 2 roads when it comes to design standards, median widths, etc. :spin:
Was referring to the New Jersey Turnpike when mentioning 75 mph.
The Pennsylvania Turnpike is appropriate at 70 mph. There's no way it would ever pass for higher, I'm surprised they even approved 70 mph, especially on narrow stretches like I-476 that have no room for error to the left.
I did the 85 mph limit on TX-130 in May. Felt absolutely surreal driving that fast legally, but it's easy to see why it's allowed–there's not too much traffic there, and it's much better than the 5 mph I got to go on I-35 through Austin on the way there.
Quote from: Rothman on October 01, 2019, 04:50:03 PM
Quote from: michravera on October 01, 2019, 04:02:55 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 18, 2019, 04:35:33 PM
70 for me.
I forget which airport it was that showed the "250Kt speed limit to 30 NM". That is the general rule in Class B airspace in the US, but one airport (it may have been foreign) actually POSTED the limit. I have never flown equipment that was capable of much above 200Kt.
250 under 10,000 feet?
It may have been. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if, for instance, Denver's Class B 250Kt limit applied all of the way up to FL180.
Quote from: michravera on October 02, 2019, 04:56:44 PM
Quote from: Rothman on October 01, 2019, 04:50:03 PM
Quote from: michravera on October 01, 2019, 04:02:55 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 18, 2019, 04:35:33 PM
70 for me.
I forget which airport it was that showed the "250Kt speed limit to 30 NM". That is the general rule in Class B airspace in the US, but one airport (it may have been foreign) actually POSTED the limit. I have never flown equipment that was capable of much above 200Kt.
250 under 10,000 feet?
It may have been. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if, for instance, Denver's Class B 250Kt limit applied all of the way up to FL180.
Looks like Denver's class B ceiling is FL120: https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/flight_info/aeronav/digital_products/vfr_class_b/media/Denver_Class_B.pdf
My highest speed limit, so far, is 70. That was on I-95/Maine Turnpike from Scarborough to (maybe) Kittery. Nothing is higher than 65 in Connecticut.
Highest number and highest 2-lane: Mackenzie Highway, Northwest Territories, 110 km/h (68 mph for metric-challenged Yanks and Brits)
Highest speed recently: 75 mph in freeways in Wyoming, Utah, Idaho,
Highest speed limit on a non-state maintained road: 45 mph on the Golden Gate Bridge
I was on the rural highways of Nevada when there was no daytime speed limit, but I was a child then and not driving so I'm not sure it counts.
Quote from: kkt on October 02, 2019, 10:14:03 PM
Highest number and highest 2-lane: Mackenzie Highway, Northwest Territories, 110 km/h (68 mph for metric-challenged Yanks and Brits)
Highest speed recently: 75 mph in freeways in Wyoming, Utah, Idaho,
Highest speed limit on a non-state maintained road: 45 mph on the Golden Gate Bridge
I was on the rural highways of Nevada when there was no daytime speed limit, but I was a child then and not driving so I'm not sure it counts.
There are a lot of county maintained roads in Southern and Eastern Sacramento county (Hedge Road, Eagle Nest Road, eastern Kiefer Blvd, etc) that, to my knowledge, have NEVER had a speed limit sign. I moved away in 1991 and the bill reauthorizing the 65MPH speed limit (and defaulting 55MPH on unposted two-lane undivided roads) was in 1995-6. Sacramento County MAY have posted some 55MPH signs since then, but there weren't any speed limit SIGNS before then.
Prior to 1974, Watt Ave south of the American River in Sacramento City was unposted and therefore 65MPH.
I know that I saw portions of 7th Standard Road posted for 65MPH in July 2019. As far as I know, that's a Kern County road.
Quote from: Revive 755 on January 18, 2019, 10:15:37 PM
For me: 80 on I-15 in Utah.
I-70 in Utah also has 80 mph
Quote from: kkt on October 02, 2019, 10:14:03 PM
Highest speed limit on a non-state maintained road: 45 mph on the Golden Gate Bridge
Wait, what? Do you mean
lowest?
In New York, county roads default to 55 mph. Many of them don't even have speed limit signs; it's just assumed.
I can only imagine that type of thing is
more common the further west one travels!
Quote from: webny99 on October 03, 2019, 09:12:41 AM
Quote from: kkt on October 02, 2019, 10:14:03 PM
Highest speed limit on a non-state maintained road: 45 mph on the Golden Gate Bridge
Wait, what? Do you mean lowest?
In New York, county roads default to 55 mph. Many of them don't even have speed limit signs; it's just assumed.
I can only imagine that type of thing is more common the further west one travels!
-His- highest speed.
Quote from: sprjus4 on October 03, 2019, 04:55:29 PM
Quote from: webny99 on October 03, 2019, 09:12:41 AM
Quote from: kkt on October 02, 2019, 10:14:03 PM
Highest speed limit on a non-state maintained road: 45 mph on the Golden Gate Bridge
Wait, what? Do you mean lowest?
In New York, county roads default to 55 mph. Many of them don't even have speed limit signs; it's just assumed.
I can only imagine that type of thing is more common the further west one travels!
-His- highest speed.
Plenty of 50s (and probably 55s) in Washington, and 55 is the default in Oregon like in NY, so living in Seattle, 45 is still quite surprising.
Quote from: webny99 on October 03, 2019, 09:12:41 AM
Quote from: kkt on October 02, 2019, 10:14:03 PM
Highest speed limit on a non-state maintained road: 45 mph on the Golden Gate Bridge
Wait, what? Do you mean lowest?
In New York, county roads default to 55 mph. Many of them don't even have speed limit signs; it's just assumed.
I can only imagine that type of thing is more common the further west one travels!
I was looking for the highest posted speed limit on a non-state-maintained road I have a specific recollection of. Most of the county roads don't bother posting speed limits unless they're low.
Quote from: kkt on October 03, 2019, 09:21:39 PM
Quote from: webny99 on October 03, 2019, 09:12:41 AM
Quote from: kkt on October 02, 2019, 10:14:03 PM
Highest speed limit on a non-state maintained road: 45 mph on the Golden Gate Bridge
Wait, what? Do you mean lowest?
In New York, county roads default to 55 mph. Many of them don't even have speed limit signs; it's just assumed.
I can only imagine that type of thing is more common the further west one travels!
I was looking for the highest posted speed limit on a non-state-maintained road I have a specific recollection of. Most of the county roads don't bother posting speed limits unless they're low.
Depends what state you're in. NJ's counties posts limits on nearly every single roadway.
And for that matter, in New Jersey 55 mph is the highest on a county roadway...unless you want to include toll roads administered by agencies or authorities run by the state or bi-state, in which case the highest limit is 65.
I believe the highest non-state maintained speed limit I've seen is 65 mph, on Peña Blvd in Denver.
In Texas, the default speed limit for a rural non-state road is 60. I've been on plenty of roads with no speed limit signs, but those are mostly gravel roads on which going that fast would be a mistake. That's similar to a no-speed-limit situation, in which you go as fast as you feel safe going. With metes-and-bounds surveying, in much of the state county roads have a lot of curves, including right-angle turns. All over the areas I've been, paved county roads tend to have speed limit signs. The highest signed speed limit I've seen on a county road is 55. The highest speed limit a city can set is 75 (this includes a city's authority to set speed limits on highways, including freeways, which is concurrent with, but subordinate to, TxDOT's authority). The highest speed limit a county can set is 70 (counties cannot set speed limits on state highways), except that counties can set speed limits of 75 on freeways. The only county road freeways I know of are toll roads run by county toll authorities. Those and toll roads run by regional tollway authorities and regional mobility authorities have a maximum limit of 75, and are non-state roads. State roads have the highest speed limit options, because only TxDOT can set a speed limit of 80 or 85.
In MN there's a section of Stearns County 75 posted at 60 MPH between I-94 and Waite Park outside of St. Cloud. There used to be a section of Scott County 18 (now 21) that was posted 60 but was dropped back to 55 after reconstruction.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 03, 2019, 10:01:16 PM
Depends what state you're in. NJ's counties posts limits on nearly every single roadway.
And for that matter, in New Jersey 55 mph is the highest on a county roadway...unless you want to include toll roads administered by agencies or authorities run by the state or bi-state, in which case the highest limit is 65.
I don't believe I've ever seen 55 explicitly posted on an NJ county route. 50 is common, though.
Quote from: kkt on October 03, 2019, 09:21:39 PM
Quote from: webny99 on October 03, 2019, 09:12:41 AM
Quote from: kkt on October 02, 2019, 10:14:03 PM
Highest speed limit on a non-state maintained road: 45 mph on the Golden Gate Bridge
Wait, what? Do you mean lowest?
In New York, county roads default to 55 mph. Many of them don't even have speed limit signs; it's just assumed.
I can only imagine that type of thing is more common the further west one travels!
I was looking for the highest posted speed limit on a non-state-maintained road I have a specific recollection of. Most of the county roads don't bother posting speed limits unless they're low.
For something that's not posted, I'd go with whatever the statutory default would be for the road.
Quote from: bzakharin on October 04, 2019, 10:26:17 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 03, 2019, 10:01:16 PM
Depends what state you're in. NJ's counties posts limits on nearly every single roadway.
And for that matter, in New Jersey 55 mph is the highest on a county roadway...unless you want to include toll roads administered by agencies or authorities run by the state or bi-state, in which case the highest limit is 65.
I don't believe I've ever seen 55 explicitly posted on an NJ county route. 50 is common, though.
https://goo.gl/maps/Ji51QJ6fWsNMV5Xe7
At the intersection of NJ 72 and CR 539, this is one of the few (if not only) intersections in NJ where all 4 legs have a 55 mph limit.
Quote from: vdeane on October 04, 2019, 01:11:57 PM
For something that's not posted, I'd go with whatever the statutory default would be for the road.
That's what most of us would do too, but I understand why someone wouldn't count a statute on the books as a "speed limit that you have seen while on the road".
The highest posted speed limit I've seen on a road not maintained by a state is 70 mph on various British motorways. :bigass:
Quote from: kkt on October 03, 2019, 09:21:39 PM
I was looking for the highest posted speed limit on a non-state-maintained road I have a specific recollection of. Most of the county roads don't bother posting speed limits unless they're low.
According to RCW 46.61.400, county roads in WA are 50 unless otherwise posted. But I'm not sure that would count as there's no specific sign to have "seen", as required by the thread title.
Quote from: wxfree on October 04, 2019, 07:10:35 AM
Those and toll roads run by regional tollway authorities and regional mobility authorities have a maximum limit of 75, and are non-state roads. State roads have the highest speed limit options, because only TxDOT can set a speed limit of 80 or 85.
TX-130 around Austin is posted at 80 and 85 mph, and is a ran by a regional tollway authority + private company.
Quote from: 1995hoo on October 04, 2019, 04:21:24 PM
The highest posted speed limit I've seen on a road not maintained by a state is 70 mph on various British motorways. :bigass:
As I noted on the second page of this thread, the highest speed limit I've ever seen is 130 km/h (81 mph), and it wasn't either a road maintained by a (constituent) state :bigass:. However it was maintained by a
sovereign state.
Quote from: sprjus4 on October 05, 2019, 09:21:29 AM
Quote from: wxfree on October 04, 2019, 07:10:35 AM
Those and toll roads run by regional tollway authorities and regional mobility authorities have a maximum limit of 75, and are non-state roads. State roads have the highest speed limit options, because only TxDOT can set a speed limit of 80 or 85.
TX-130 around Austin is posted at 80 and 85 mph, and is a ran by a regional tollway authority + private company.
I think TxDOT still set the speed limit... after asking for a bribe:
Quote
The tolling company lobbied hard for the higher limit. However, the state determined that such a high speed limit would require special consideration, specifically a $100 million payment to the state. To be fair, the state said it could do an 80 mph limit for only $67 million.
https://www.motorists.org/alerts/ppp-myth-busters-nma-e-newsletter-375/
Quote from: kkt on October 02, 2019, 10:14:03 PM
Highest number and highest 2-lane: Mackenzie Highway, Northwest Territories, 110 km/h (68 mph for metric-challenged Yanks and Brits)
I didn't realize NWT was posting anything higher than 100 - any idea when this changed?
Quote from: sprjus4 on October 05, 2019, 09:21:29 AM
Quote from: wxfree on October 04, 2019, 07:10:35 AM
Those and toll roads run by regional tollway authorities and regional mobility authorities have a maximum limit of 75, and are non-state roads. State roads have the highest speed limit options, because only TxDOT can set a speed limit of 80 or 85.
TX-130 around Austin is posted at 80 and 85 mph, and is a ran by a regional tollway authority + private company.
The Central Texas Turnpike System, which includes the northern part of SH 130, 45N, 45SE, and the fully-tolled section of Loop 1, is run by TxDOT. The included part of 130, and 45SE, have speed limits of 80. Other toll roads in the Austin area, excluding the southern part of 130, are run by the RMA and have a maximum limit of 75. The southern part of SH 130 is run by the concessionaire under the authority of TxDOT, which has the right to set the speed limit.
I didn't know until I checked just now, but SH 45SW is run by the RMA. That number is now split between authorities. It's also a state highway, while most other RMA roads are not. The only other one I know of is SH 550/I-169. Toll 49 near Tyler is often called Loop 49, but the open section was removed from the designation when the road was transferred to the RMA and is not a state highway.
Quote from: deathtopumpkins on October 08, 2019, 02:03:31 PM
Quote from: kkt on October 02, 2019, 10:14:03 PM
Highest number and highest 2-lane: Mackenzie Highway, Northwest Territories, 110 km/h (68 mph for metric-challenged Yanks and Brits)
I didn't realize NWT was posting anything higher than 100 - any idea when this changed?
No, I saw it in June of 2012.
Quote from: jakeroot on September 11, 2019, 11:21:17 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on September 11, 2019, 06:40:16 AM
130 km/h on E18 in Finland (but now I believe the highest allowed there is 120 km/h now) and 80 MPH on I-15 in Utah.
I can't find much information on this old limit. About what time frame were you in Finland?
The 130 km/h limit on motorways was in effect in the 1990's and early 2000's, then it was cut back to 120 km/h.
Finland has higher speed limits during the warm season (roughly April to October). November to March, posted limits go down to a maximum of 80 km/h on arterial highways and 100 km/h on motorways (yes, nearly all of the speed limit signs outside urbanized areas are changed-out twice a year).
Traffic signs in Finland are discussed pretty well on this page (https://vayla.fi/web/en/road-network/traffic-signs) and overall driving rules can be found here (https://www.expat-finland.com/pdf/driving_in_finland.pdf) (.pdf).
Quote from: cpzilliacus on October 09, 2019, 10:22:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 11, 2019, 11:21:17 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on September 11, 2019, 06:40:16 AM
130 km/h on E18 in Finland (but now I believe the highest allowed there is 120 km/h now) and 80 MPH on I-15 in Utah.
I can't find much information on this old limit. About what time frame were you in Finland?
The 130 km/h limit on motorways was in effect in the 1990's and early 2000's, then it was cut back to 120 km/h.
Finland has higher speed limits during the warm season (roughly April to October). November to March, posted limits go down to a maximum of 80 km/h on arterial highways and 100 km/h on motorways (yes, nearly all of the speed limit signs outside urbanized areas are changed-out twice a year).
Changed out? They can't just put a flap on it and flip it twice a year, like they do with the "bridge ices before road" signs in the US?
Quote from: cpzilliacus on October 09, 2019, 10:22:42 PM
November to March, posted limits go down to a maximum of 80 km/h on arterial highways and 100 km/h on motorways (yes, nearly all of the speed limit signs outside urbanized areas are changed-out twice a year).
Willing to bet nobody actually slows down, rather it's just an artificial limit based on functional class and weather.
I decided to vote "50 or bellow" even thought that is incorrect, only because the Spanish word for what one does with a bellows also has the far better known meaning of "to f***" :sombrero:.
Quote from: X99 on October 09, 2019, 10:28:30 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on October 09, 2019, 10:22:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 11, 2019, 11:21:17 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on September 11, 2019, 06:40:16 AM
130 km/h on E18 in Finland (but now I believe the highest allowed there is 120 km/h now) and 80 MPH on I-15 in Utah.
I can't find much information on this old limit. About what time frame were you in Finland?
The 130 km/h limit on motorways was in effect in the 1990's and early 2000's, then it was cut back to 120 km/h.
Finland has higher speed limits during the warm season (roughly April to October). November to March, posted limits go down to a maximum of 80 km/h on arterial highways and 100 km/h on motorways (yes, nearly all of the speed limit signs outside urbanized areas are changed-out twice a year).
Changed out? They can't just put a flap on it and flip it twice a year, like they do with the "bridge ices before road" signs in the US?
Fix that to: "...like they do in some southern states in the US?" The majority of states don't use flip signs, and even in states that do not all signs are designed to flip.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on October 10, 2019, 06:32:38 AM
Quote from: X99 on October 09, 2019, 10:28:30 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on October 09, 2019, 10:22:42 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on September 11, 2019, 11:21:17 PM
Quote from: cpzilliacus on September 11, 2019, 06:40:16 AM
130 km/h on E18 in Finland (but now I believe the highest allowed there is 120 km/h now) and 80 MPH on I-15 in Utah.
I can't find much information on this old limit. About what time frame were you in Finland?
The 130 km/h limit on motorways was in effect in the 1990's and early 2000's, then it was cut back to 120 km/h.
Finland has higher speed limits during the warm season (roughly April to October). November to March, posted limits go down to a maximum of 80 km/h on arterial highways and 100 km/h on motorways (yes, nearly all of the speed limit signs outside urbanized areas are changed-out twice a year).
Changed out? They can't just put a flap on it and flip it twice a year, like they do with the "bridge ices before road" signs in the US?
Fix that to: "...like they do in some southern states in the US?" The majority of states don't use flip signs, and even in states that do not all signs are designed to flip.
South Dakota, despite having south in its name, is not a southern state. We have signs that say "watch for ice on bridge" all over the place here.
But are those signs flip signs? Around this part of the country, they're usually on display on a permanent basis.
Those permanent "Bridge ices before road" signs are used in Texas, too. Years ago they had the flip signs, and they were closed and opened each year. On the bottom back side of the sign, which was exposed when it was closed, there was a "Don't mess with Texas" stamp. I once saw a paper that showed when those signs were to be opened and closed, with longer open seasons to the north.
They're used everywhere. In seems ridiculous, but I can see why you might want such signs in places where it isn't obvious that there's a bridge ahead. There are culverts with dirt and grass on each side of the road, where you can drive by for years and not even know it isn't solid ground. But if you're unfamiliar with the road, and the visibility isn't very good, which can happen in winter storms, it's nice to have a warning of a bridge ahead.
It amazes me how many people don't realize bridges ice up before the rest of the road does. Or that it often gets icy under bridges, which I'm not sure I've ever seen a sign for.
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130 km/h on E18 in Finland (but now I believe the highest allowed there is 120 km/h now) and 80 MPH on I-15 in Utah.
I can't find much information on this old limit. About what time frame were you in Finland?
The 130 km/h limit on motorways was in effect in the 1990's and early 2000's, then it was cut back to 120 km/h.
Finland has higher speed limits during the warm season (roughly April to October). November to March, posted limits go down to a maximum of 80 km/h on arterial highways and 100 km/h on motorways (yes, nearly all of the speed limit signs outside urbanized areas are changed-out twice a year).
Changed out? They can't just put a flap on it and flip it twice a year, like they do with the "bridge ices before road" signs in the US?
Fix that to: "...like they do in some southern states in the US?" The majority of states don't use flip signs, and even in states that do not all signs are designed to flip.
Signs like this one are common all over the West Coast states. https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6432517,-118.6919579,3a,21.3y,151.17h,86.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHZf0HTaZOW0DCznJthx5AQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
I have seen lots of "hinged" signs like this that can be folded over when not needed as well.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mirtai/379809940
Quote from: vdeane on October 10, 2019, 12:48:42 PM
But are those signs flip signs? Around this part of the country, they're usually on display on a permanent basis.
Yes, they are. (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1179837,-103.0739125,3a,48.7y,327.79h,84.01t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2Bu4Xd55pviaYmofPhxfng!2e0!7i13312!8i6656)
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130 km/h on E18 in Finland (but now I believe the highest allowed there is 120 km/h now) and 80 MPH on I-15 in Utah.
I can't find much information on this old limit. About what time frame were you in Finland?
The 130 km/h limit on motorways was in effect in the 1990's and early 2000's, then it was cut back to 120 km/h.
Finland has higher speed limits during the warm season (roughly April to October). November to March, posted limits go down to a maximum of 80 km/h on arterial highways and 100 km/h on motorways (yes, nearly all of the speed limit signs outside urbanized areas are changed-out twice a year).
Changed out? They can't just put a flap on it and flip it twice a year, like they do with the "bridge ices before road" signs in the US?
Fix that to: "...like they do in some southern states in the US?" The majority of states don't use flip signs, and even in states that do not all signs are designed to flip.
Signs like this one are common all over the West Coast states. https://www.google.com/maps/@45.6432517,-118.6919579,3a,21.3y,151.17h,86.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sHZf0HTaZOW0DCznJthx5AQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
I have seen lots of "hinged" signs like this that can be folded over when not needed as well.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mirtai/379809940
The signs in the the California Sierras read "Bridge may be icy [even] when road is dry".
Quote from: X99 on October 09, 2019, 10:28:30 PM
Changed out? They can't just put a flap on it and flip it twice a year, like they do with the "bridge ices before road" signs in the US?
That is not how they do it.
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November to March, posted limits go down to a maximum of 80 km/h on arterial highways and 100 km/h on motorways (yes, nearly all of the speed limit signs outside urbanized areas are changed-out twice a year).
Willing to bet nobody actually slows down, rather it's just an artificial limit based on functional class and weather.
I am willing to bet that they do. In Finland, traffic fines are set as a function of income (called "day fines"). So someone that has a salary of millions of Euros will pay much, much more than someone earning say €50,000 a year.
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Changed out? They can't just put a flap on it and flip it twice a year, like they do with the "bridge ices before road" signs in the US?
That is not how they do it.
Why not? There's plenty of flippy signs throughout this country. Why not for speed limit signs?
Since the average speed has been increasing since cars were first made. When do you guys think we will see a 100mph speed limit that is safe to travel at & also feels comfortable.
What would have to change in order for this to occur.
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Quote from: Tonytone on October 18, 2019, 01:44:45 AM
Since the average speed has been increasing since cars were first made. When do you guys think we will see a 100mph speed limit that is safe to travel at & also feels comfortable.
What would have to change in order for this to occur.
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Taking the controls out of the driver's hands.
Making sure all tires have ratings to handle 100 mph.
Tremendously safer safety equipment on the roads. Guardrails and even concrete barriers aren't made to withstand 100 mph speeds, especially trucks.
Tremendously longer accel/decal lanes. Even at the current preferred guidance of 1,200 feet, they would be too short for most vehicles to accelerate or decelerate in the proper amount of time.
Better lighting. Remember your driver's instruction....don't drive faster than how far you can see.
Better radii on curve.
Better roads overall, including what can and can't be controlled by transportation departments - better pavements; fewer potholes; less debris on the roadways.
In Germany people regularly drive those speeds on the Autobahn without issue. Why don't we just improve the driver education to their level, and then require everyone to retake training to the new standards by the next time they renew their licence after a five year grace period?
Though realistically, the entire culture surrounding enforcement will have to change. As long as we remain focused on speed as the cause of all ills on the road and the insurance companies do all the safety studies, it won't happen.
Quote from: vdeane on October 18, 2019, 12:49:27 PM
In Germany people regularly drive those speeds on the Autobahn without issue. Why don't we just improve the driver education to their level, and then require everyone to retake training to the new standards by the next time they renew their licence after a five year grace period?
Though realistically, the entire culture surrounding enforcement will have to change. As long as we remain focused on speed as the cause of all ills on the road and the insurance companies do all the safety studies, it won't happen.
It's not just the drivers' experience. The autobahns are better constructed and better maintained.
Quote from: vdeane on October 18, 2019, 12:49:27 PM
In Germany people regularly drive those speeds on the Autobahn without issue. Why don't we just improve the driver education to their level, and then require everyone to retake training to the new standards by the next time they renew their licence after a five year grace period?
Though realistically, the entire culture surrounding enforcement will have to change. As long as we remain focused on speed as the cause of all ills on the road and the insurance companies do all the safety studies, it won't happen.
You're basing your assumption on that all roads are built alike.
Autobahns are built with higher design speeds in mind, up to about 100 mph in some places, but often aren't much higher than 80 mph in other places. Thus, things like curve radii are smoother, and sharper curves will have advisory speeds in place.
Cars sold in Germany will have tires enginered for higher speeds.
Many medians will have concrete barriers. Guard rails and cable barriers run much of the length of right shoulders.
Many vehicles other than cars do have speed limits to obey.
And finally...believe it or not, hundreds of people die every year on the autobahns. Many thousands more are in accidents!
So clearly it's not just driver education. And clearly drivers in Germany definitely have issues when driving!
I wouldn't say that the Autobahn has universally higher standards than the interstates. Take a look here (https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4960254,7.3178935,3a,75y,117.27h,76.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSQhawSH173yeNMHp_DCZBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). That left shoulder is WAY too narrow, and the way the right shoulder just disappears for the deceleration lane would NEVER be allowed here. They don't look unusually straight compared to rural interstates, either.
Honestly, I'd be happy if the speed limits on the rural interstates were raised to 75-80 and the urban ones to 65 where roadway geometry isn't substandard, which would be in line with the rest of Europe (even Italy, which has crazy merges from tight ramps like this (https://www.google.com/maps/@44.3674494,8.602948,3a,75y,21.84h,71.35t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD4LQXTnHuvDLW0TmfxOsbA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) (which honestly reminds me of an old-style NY parkway with a ramp ending in a stop sign!)), but we won't even get that.
This discussion of flip signs makes me think of Rosco P. Coltrane's speed trap.
Quote from: US 89 on October 10, 2019, 02:11:02 PM
It amazes me how many people don't realize bridges ice up before the rest of the road does.
Is it that they don't realize, or simply don't care?
In my case, I'm well aware that the bridges ice first, but if there's snow and/or ice, I'm going to be exercising caution anyways, so I've never thought it was a particularly worthwhile thing to point out. It's not going to affect my driving behavior either way, and I'm certainly not going to brake/slow way down for every bridge I encounter.
Quote from: Tonytone on October 18, 2019, 01:44:45 AM
When do you guys think we will see a 100mph speed limit
2018.
Well, technically, the speed limit on
this motorway in the UAE (https://www.thenational.ae/uae/transport/speed-limit-for-new-abu-dhabi-motorway-set-at-160kph-1.700188) is only 99.4 mph (160km/h), but camera enforcement begins at 100.0 mph (161 km/h).
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Quote from: Tonytone on October 18, 2019, 01:44:45 AM
When do you guys think we will see a 100mph speed limit
2018.
Well, technically, the speed limit on this motorway in the UAE (https://www.thenational.ae/uae/transport/speed-limit-for-new-abu-dhabi-motorway-set-at-160kph-1.700188) is only 99.4 mph (160km/h), but camera enforcement begins at 100.0 mph (161 km/h).
LMAO WHAT! Enforcement begins at 100 MPH who is gonna keep their speed @99mph. I guess this will
Prevent speeding unless you want a nice fine. But also kinda dumb imo. Atleast do 106MPH for ticket enforcement.
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Quote from: vdeane on October 18, 2019, 02:02:52 PM
I wouldn't say that the Autobahn has universally higher standards than the interstates. Take a look here (https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4960254,7.3178935,3a,75y,117.27h,76.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSQhawSH173yeNMHp_DCZBA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). That left shoulder is WAY too narrow, and the way the right shoulder just disappears for the deceleration lane would NEVER be allowed here. They don't look unusually straight compared to rural interstates, either.
Which is why the limit on that stretch is only 100 km/h (https://goo.gl/maps/UsnCugiLpy1SnXMS9). Typically, Germany won't do unrestricted unless it's 6+ lanes and modern standards.