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Signs at state lines put up by one state that refer to things in the other state

Started by KCRoadFan, August 22, 2020, 09:25:36 PM

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KCRoadFan

So, I just happened to see this thread called "Sign Wars at State Lines."  It reminded me of a photo I saw on one of my favorite roadgeek websites (Iowa Highway Ends by Jeff Morrison), but that photo didn't fit the main thrust of that particular thread, so I decided to start my own.

Anyway, the focus of this thread is as follows: where have you seen situations along a road approaching a state line, where a sign installed by the DOT of one state references a town, road, or other entity in the other state? The photo I referred to, and linked to, here is located along US 69 northbound approaching the Iowa-Minnesota border, where Iowa DOT has posted a sign for the town of Emmons - which is just across the line in Minnesota.

http://iowahighwayends.net/ends/statelines/Emmonssign.jpg

What other examples of this phenomenon have you seen around the country? I'm sure there are some - especially when approaching a town just on the other side of the line, as is the case with Emmons, MN.


hotdogPi

Both these signs are in Massachusetts (and it should be NH 107, not MA 107):



Interstate shield and US route shield in Quebec:


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sprjus4

At one point, Virginia had posted VMS signage miles in advance of the North Carolina line along I-85 warning motorists of a major project that was going on through there, reducing traffic to one lane full-time to reconstruct the interstate. The project has since been complete as of 2018.

Flint1979

I've got one even better. A state highway sign for Indiana State Road 26 with a straight arrow under it. This sign is located at the corner of Butler and Wayne Streets in Fort Recovery, Ohio about 1.4 miles east of the state line.


https://www.google.com/maps/@40.4130425,-84.7795767,3a,15y,326.27h,88.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_jDeXWPlX6_wy9QuIc4KSw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

corco

I've got several examples but I think the most pointless (and therefore wonderful) example of this I know if is the very good Washington 290 to Idaho 53 signage on SR 290, a local road, several miles from the state line.





Ben114

Quote from: 1 on August 22, 2020, 09:28:50 PM
Both these signs are in Massachusetts (and it should be NH 107, not MA 107):



Interstate shield and US route shield in Quebec:




Also in Massachusetts is this assembly at the RI border on I-95.
Also on I-95, this is in NH for an MA exit.

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TheHighwayMan3561

This Hudson exits sign on the Minnesota side of I-94, which replaced a WIS 35 advance sign that looked like a MnDOT made sign, while this looks like a WisDOT commission installed by MnDOT.

https://goo.gl/maps/3B5hzEZ2fKWBLeof8
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ozarkman417

There are four places I know of near the MO/AR border that involve short [MO supplemental routes] connecting to (AR state highways). In each instance, MoDOT has a TO sign under an AR highway shield:

From West to East: [OO] to (279) near Bella Vista, AR.. [P] to (23) near Holiday Island, AR.. [H] to (143) near Golden, MO.. [AR] to (87) near Bakersfield, MO.
   

ilpt4u

Quote from: Revive 755 on August 22, 2020, 11:30:50 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/CTc8qSUZ6hpt3vRk6I-80 WB in Illinois has an advance sign for the exit to US 67 in Iowa.



There's an advance sign for the Riverview Boulevard exit off of I-270 in Missouri on the Illinois side, sans exit number tab.

Also a logo sign on the Illinois side for the Riverview Boulevard exit in Missouri.

There also a sign for the Columbia Bottom Conservation area on I-270 in Illinois, but based on the design it would appear MoDOT at least fabricated it.



Advance exit sign for the first Indiana exit on EB I-70 in Illinois



Sign on EB I-72 in Missouri for the exit to IL 106

There are many signs for the MO 79 exit off WB I-72 in Illinois.

Prior to the replacement of the Mark Twain Bridge at Hannibal and I-72's extension into Missouri, I recall there being 'To I-72 assemblies on US 61 at the interchange with US 36.  I can't recall if there were any other assemblies on US 36 or on MO 79 at US 36.



Depending where the state line is, there's a couple signs in Illinois for the interchange at the western end of the Poplar Street Bridge.

Advance sign for the interchange at the western end of the new I-70 Mississippi River bridge in Illinois.

There are 'To IL 3' signs on the Missouri side of the McKinley Bridge.



IL 146 appears on signs for the northern exit to MO 74 on I-55
In addition to that, on I-70 approaching the Stan Span, MoDOT has a VMS in Illinois for WB traffic. IDOT has their own at the same location for EB traffic: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6488154,-90.1679076,3a,90y,253.22h,74.53t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8gwzlpd3kBkeoPjQJGOI0w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Then there is this gem with an I-44 shield on a BGS in E St Louis on I-55/70 approaching the 64/70 bump: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6410302,-90.1335123,3a,53.4y,223.23h,89.36t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sRFNGE_e2vF9zwj2X7PjYvA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Then again at the Eads Bridge exit on I-55/64, with another To I-44 shield on a BGS in E St Louis: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6295853,-90.1579952,3a,75y,261.69h,89.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slNDugj5KIC6n4RhlO3u-Ow!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Missouri side of the PSB, with To I-70 and also IL 3 South/Exit 1 signage: https://goo.gl/maps/SN6MFSJ1yBVNEZsQ7

And along I-70 EB approaching the TOTSO for the Stan Span in MO, To I-55 NB/I-64 EB: https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6493513,-90.1922964,3a,53.3y,174.59h,106.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suFyrHATgCLfZDQQcC4KpyA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

There is this sign for IL 146 on approach to the Cape Girardeau bridge on MO 34/74: https://www.google.com/maps/@37.295016,-89.5233735,3a,33.2y,112.14h,87.67t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sNsQC8ptgisFC0lRFn9ZZ3w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

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US 7 in CT, south of MA state line: a sign for US 7A (SR 832 in CT, MA 7A in MA). Which IMO should be US 7A in both states: https://goo.gl/maps/y2JPLdJ1HFQExV4r8

On CT 197, south of MA state line: a sign for MA 31 (not a state road in CT; highway ends at state line in MA): https://goo.gl/maps/1TXjSyNmXtZGpVn36

Good looking but flawed sign on I-95 SB, for "RI 184" and "RI 216", exit 93 across the CT state line: https://goo.gl/maps/ZSMMbCnkR8XLBu4o7
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Fort Madison, Iowa:


IMG_5873 by Paul Drives, on Flickr

Lansing, Iowa- if only Wisconsin could put their bloated cheese triangles on single panels, too: 


IA-009-ET by Paul Drives, on Flickr

Union City, IN:


IN-028-032WE by Paul Drives, on Flickr
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SB on US 69-US 75 in OK, is this BGS between Colbert and the Red River, in advance of the TX Travel Info center, with a TX exit tab.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/6Zd34b1warjDNrdM6

Road Hog

Quote from: -- US 175 -- on August 23, 2020, 02:05:19 AM
SB on US 69-US 75 in OK, is this BGS between Colbert and the Red River, in advance of the TX Travel Info center, with a TX exit tab.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/6Zd34b1warjDNrdM6
I-30 in Texarkana has several advance signs as well. All these signs appear to be to TxDOT specs. So TxDOT makes the signs and must have an agreement with the other state to install them themselves.

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hotdogPi

I-93 in MA has a "road work next 20 miles" sign and a "I-293 X miles Y minutes" electronic sign intended for I-93 in New Hampshire. I don't have a photo, unfortunately.

I-495 in MA near I-93 tells you to use I-93 north for the airport in Manchester, NH. There's also one between exits 48 and 47 southbound telling you to use MA 213 to I-93.



This one is similar to the 107 photo I posted above. It's for NH 121, but the sign is in Massachusetts. (NH 121 does not become MA 121.)
[Side note: that's not a nonstandard signal; it's the camera.]
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jmd41280

A few from my personal collection...

Here is a sign for PA 163 along I-81 in MD (with the extra-wide exit tab per MDSHA specs)...

I-81 north approaching PA 163 by Jon Dawson, on Flickr

Here is a sign for OH 872 and WV 2, along OH 7 in Shadyside...

OH 7 approaching OH 872 (Moundsville Bridge) by Jon Dawson, on Flickr

Here is a sign for OH 7 along WV 2 in New Martinsville...

OH 7 sign w/ state name, along WV 2 in New Martinsville by Jon Dawson, on Flickr
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Hope this Street View link works correctly. All three roads on the BGS are in Maryland, but the more interesting sign in my view is the LGS off to the right for the MGM Resort, which is also in Maryland. I always find it amusing that it doesn't mention what the MGM is best-known for around here–its casino.

https://goo.gl/maps/GxQLGVV5SnPRWNjP6
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sprjus4

Some Virginia examples...

- Currituck Outer Banks Welcome Center 1 Mile Ahead along VA-168 in Chesapeake, VA, referencing a welcome center in North Carolina.
- Reduced Speed Ahead along VA-168 in Chesapeake, VA, alerting drivers of a 50 mph speed limit on the North Carolina side, reduced from Virginia's 55 mph. Note it uses the regular "Reduced" variant whereas North Carolina signs usually use "Reduce" without the "-d".
- 1 Mile Advance Sign for Exit 233 in North Carolina for US-1 / US-401 right over the state line along I-85 in Mecklenburg County, VA. One interesting aspect is this sign is new, but is clearly up to North Carolina's specifications vs. Virginia's for when it comes to new signage. Traditional FHWA font (instead of Virginia's Clearview spec), rounded edges (instead of Virginia's square edge spec), etc. This is in line with all the other signs along the I-85 corridor from the Virginia state line to Henderson that were replaced apart of a major reconstruction project that was complete back in 2018. It's probably safe to assume NCDOT funded and placed the sign in Virginia with permission from VDOT. Additionally, previous reduced speed 65 mph signs that were on the Virginia side, alerting of NC's reduced speed limit from VA's 70 mph, were removed since NCDOT recently permanently increased their segment to 70 mph once the reconstruction project was complete.

plain

More VA examples:

Maryland Welcome Center on US 13 a mile before the state line

https://maps.app.goo.gl/pc9vH4P2AFfmcWbG8

Right at the state line on MD 12/SR 679, MD 12 is signed as a VA secondary route

https://maps.app.goo.gl/cNewLjdzojaUjecF6
https://maps.app.goo.gl/DSUJVLY7fUNSbaJV7

Detour VA 49 in North Carolina

https://maps.app.goo.gl/eZVZHb73cZTf1YgW9

And of course the infamous I-40 shield on US 220 in Virginia

https://maps.app.goo.gl/mbjNkhSRQv2SoUov9
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