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Interstate 11 alignment, though Vegas and points north

Started by swbrotha100, October 16, 2012, 09:51:18 PM

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SSR_317

Quote from: ilpt4u on July 29, 2018, 01:53:45 PM
Quote from: Plutonic Panda on July 29, 2018, 04:11:53 AM
What is the most remote interstate to interstate interchange that exists currently? I'm more specifically talking about a full interchange, not just a Y.
Excluding Y/T or Trumpet style connections, where 2 Freeways become 1?

Western KY Parkway and Pennyrile Parkway/I-69 and future I-169?

Or perhaps I-79 and I-80 in Western PA?

Indiana Toll Road/I-80/90 and I-69 in NE IN?
The junction of (Classic) I-69 and the Indiana East-West Toll Road (I-80/I-90) is not really all that "remote". Rural, yes, but not really remote, especially when compared to the wide-open spaces out west.


sparker

Quote from: Plutonic Panda on August 06, 2018, 04:33:28 PM
Mr. Howe could also wait for a bit and then push upgrades to US 93 corridor that are practical rather than turning it into a full blown interstate if it doesn't need it.

That's presuming promoters and politicos would ever consider small-scale improvements that might slip under the publicity radar.  No -- they're not angling for "spot" fixes to US 93; they're just trying to call attention to what they feel is mis (or under-) treatment of their neck of the woods.  As a straight shot from LV to central Idaho, the corridor has just a bit of merit; as a developmental corridor for eastern NV -- that's probably throwing money down the drain for all parties involved.  The only reason for anything to exist in Ely and environs is the continuation of mining there as well as mountain-area (Mt. Wheeler) recreation.  Aside from the state-line casino complexes at Jackpot and Wendover (that tend to attract out-of state gamblers who come and go without traversing much if any of the rest of NV), there's nothing really developable out there.  Mr. Howe's plans will likely blow over in a relatively short time; there's scant rationale for any or all of these.   

707

#352
MOD NOTE: Replies 352—364 were moved to this thread from the I-11/US 93 - Boulder City Bypass thread, to keep discussion of future I-11 alignments contained to this existing thread. –Roadfro




I have a question. Why is Nevada having a hard time deciding whether I-11 should take the remainder of I-515 north from the 515/215 interchange or I-215 west to I-15 from the interchange?


english si

Because they want the I-11 brand to help build the eastern loop!

sparker

Quote from: english si on August 26, 2018, 02:57:58 PM
Because some enterprising local developers want the I-11 brand to help build the eastern loop!

FTFY.  NDOT themselves seem to be taking a "Switzerland" approach to the issue; while there might be notions tossed about internally within the agency as to the merits of the various options, the agency as a whole appears to currently maintain a neutral stance.

roadfro

Quote from: 707 on August 26, 2018, 12:28:34 PM
I have a question. Why is Nevada having a hard time deciding whether I-11 should take the remainder of I-515 north from the 515/215 interchange or I-215 west to I-15 from the interchange?

They simply haven't finished the corridor study yet.

Roadfro - AARoads Pacific Southwest moderator since 2010, Nevada roadgeek since 1983.

MantyMadTown

Quote from: 707 on August 26, 2018, 12:28:34 PM
I have a question. Why is Nevada having a hard time deciding whether I-11 should take the remainder of I-515 north from the 515/215 interchange or I-215 west to I-15 from the interchange?

VS988

I would prefer it to take 515 north. Seems like a much simpler route, and it can just continue straight onto the US 95 freeway past the interchange with I-15 and then go all the way up to Reno.
Forget the I-41 haters

Sub-Urbanite

I want them to build a massive viaduct above Boulder Highway and Rancho Drive on the straight diagonal

vdeane

Quote from: MantyMadTown on August 27, 2018, 01:56:48 AM
Quote from: 707 on August 26, 2018, 12:28:34 PM
I have a question. Why is Nevada having a hard time deciding whether I-11 should take the remainder of I-515 north from the 515/215 interchange or I-215 west to I-15 from the interchange?

VS988

I would prefer it to take 515 north. Seems like a much simpler route, and it can just continue straight onto the US 95 freeway past the interchange with I-15 and then go all the way up to Reno.
Plus it would lead to a simpler exit number/mileage situation for US 95, and using CR 215 would require upgrading an interchange that's currently under construction (it's currently planned to use a loop ramp for what would be the I-11 through movement on the western bypass route).
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

MantyMadTown

Quote from: Sub-Urbanite on August 27, 2018, 11:40:14 AM
I want them to build a massive viaduct above Boulder Highway and Rancho Drive on the straight diagonal

Whyyyyyyy????
Forget the I-41 haters

sparker

Quote from: MantyMadTown on August 27, 2018, 04:09:19 PM
Quote from: Sub-Urbanite on August 27, 2018, 11:40:14 AM
I want them to build a massive viaduct above Boulder Highway and Rancho Drive on the straight diagonal

Whyyyyyyy????

I think we have the Vegas version of the notorious "Hypotenuse" here! -- complete with the abject lack of rationality endemic to that Chicago "concept"!

MantyMadTown

Quote from: sparker on August 27, 2018, 06:45:03 PM
Quote from: MantyMadTown on August 27, 2018, 04:09:19 PM
Quote from: Sub-Urbanite on August 27, 2018, 11:40:14 AM
I want them to build a massive viaduct above Boulder Highway and Rancho Drive on the straight diagonal

Whyyyyyyy????

I think we have the Vegas version of the notorious "Hypotenuse" here! -- complete with the abject lack of rationality endemic to that Chicago "concept"!

What's the Hypotenuse, may I ask?
Forget the I-41 haters

vdeane

Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

MantyMadTown

Quote from: vdeane on August 27, 2018, 08:32:29 PM
Quote from: MantyMadTown on August 27, 2018, 07:10:48 PM
What's the Hypotenuse, may I ask?
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=16790.0

Ahhh, rerouting I-90 in Chicago past the Skyway.

Well I don't think we'll need something like that for Las Vegas.
Forget the I-41 haters

sparker

Quote from: roadfro on August 27, 2018, 12:30:34 AM
Quote from: 707 on August 26, 2018, 12:28:34 PM
I have a question. Why is Nevada having a hard time deciding whether I-11 should take the remainder of I-515 north from the 515/215 interchange or I-215 west to I-15 from the interchange?

They simply haven't finished the corridor study yet.



Question:  is there at least an approximate/projected completion date for said corridor study?  Just hope it's not just a "kick-the-can-down-the-freeway" delaying tactic (pardon my cynicism, but I've seen projects "studied" to death!).

roadfro

Quote from: sparker on August 28, 2018, 03:28:33 AM
Quote from: roadfro on August 27, 2018, 12:30:34 AM
Quote from: 707 on August 26, 2018, 12:28:34 PM
I have a question. Why is Nevada having a hard time deciding whether I-11 should take the remainder of I-515 north from the 515/215 interchange or I-215 west to I-15 from the interchange?

They simply haven't finished the corridor study yet.

Question:  is there at least an approximate/projected completion date for said corridor study?  Just hope it's not just a "kick-the-can-down-the-freeway" delaying tactic (pardon my cynicism, but I've seen projects "studied" to death!).

I can't recall where I heard or read this, but I believe the alignment study report was supposed to be completed later this year.

Given NDOT's current scoping for future I-11 north through Nevada to connect with I-80, determining the route's future path through the Las Vegas area is somewhat necessary. I don't think they're trying to delay.
Roadfro - AARoads Pacific Southwest moderator since 2010, Nevada roadgeek since 1983.

roadfro

Note: This quoted post comes from the Boulder City Bypass thread.
Quote from: kdk on August 27, 2018, 06:35:51 PM
As far as the routing through Las Vegas, I find it interesting if they do go with the eastern loop alignment (which I would support), nearly all of the "first stretch of I-11" would actually not even be included in the final route, as the interstate would likely turn NB right after the state line.

All of the Boulder City Bypass construction will remain as I-11 regardless of which Vegas-area alignment option is chosen. The (seemingly unlikely to be chosen) eastern Vegas-area alignment option diverges from the existing freeway at or around Railroad Pass, which is where I-11 currently transitions to I-515.
Roadfro - AARoads Pacific Southwest moderator since 2010, Nevada roadgeek since 1983.

vdeane

Quote from: roadfro on August 28, 2018, 10:39:23 AM
All of the Boulder City Bypass construction will remain as I-11 regardless of which Vegas-area alignment option is chosen. The (seemingly unlikely to be chosen) eastern Vegas-area alignment option diverges from the existing freeway at or around Railroad Pass, which is where I-11 currently transitions to I-515.
Isn't there a signage contract to truncate I-515 to I-215 and resign it as I-11, including changed exit numbers?
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

sparker

Quote from: vdeane on August 28, 2018, 09:09:15 PM
Quote from: roadfro on August 28, 2018, 10:39:23 AM
All of the Boulder City Bypass construction will remain as I-11 regardless of which Vegas-area alignment option is chosen. The (seemingly unlikely to be chosen) eastern Vegas-area alignment option diverges from the existing freeway at or around Railroad Pass, which is where I-11 currently transitions to I-515.
Isn't there a signage contract to truncate I-515 to I-215 and resign it as I-11, including changed exit numbers?

Since the option of the east side bypass remains on the table pending the results of the alignment study -- and it departs the existing alignment just north of Railroad Pass in order to avoid housing on that side of the metro area -- it's likely such a contract has been put on hold pending those findings. 

roadfro

Quote from: sparker on August 29, 2018, 12:24:59 AM
Quote from: vdeane on August 28, 2018, 09:09:15 PM
Quote from: roadfro on August 28, 2018, 10:39:23 AM
All of the Boulder City Bypass construction will remain as I-11 regardless of which Vegas-area alignment option is chosen. The (seemingly unlikely to be chosen) eastern Vegas-area alignment option diverges from the existing freeway at or around Railroad Pass, which is where I-11 currently transitions to I-515.
Isn't there a signage contract to truncate I-515 to I-215 and resign it as I-11, including changed exit numbers?

Since the option of the east side bypass remains on the table pending the results of the alignment study -- and it departs the existing alignment just north of Railroad Pass in order to avoid housing on that side of the metro area -- it's likely such a contract has been put on hold pending those findings.

NDOT received AASHTO/FHWA approval for the resigning several years ago. NDOT's current STIP includes funding for a resigning project. However, looking at the STIP page for it now, it appears that this project is pending deletion from the STIP (see the "Change History" tab).

To my knowledge, there has been no mention of the intent to resign I-515 in local media coverage of I-11.
Roadfro - AARoads Pacific Southwest moderator since 2010, Nevada roadgeek since 1983.

halork

Apparently, Google Maps has decided that I-11 has already replaced I-515 through Las Vegas.  :confused:

roadfro

Quote from: halork on September 05, 2018, 11:43:27 AM
Apparently, Google Maps has decided that I-11 has already replaced I-515 through Las Vegas.  :confused:
That's new... And definitely an error.
Roadfro - AARoads Pacific Southwest moderator since 2010, Nevada roadgeek since 1983.

The Ghostbuster

But hopefully (in my opinion), that is what should ultimately become reality.

ilpt4u

Quote from: roadfro on September 05, 2018, 03:53:06 PM
Quote from: halork on September 05, 2018, 11:43:27 AM
Apparently, Google Maps has decided that I-11 has already replaced I-515 through Las Vegas.  :confused:
That's new... And definitely an error.
Certainly an error for now

But also, perhaps foresight!

MantyMadTown

Quote from: ilpt4u on September 05, 2018, 08:26:08 PM
Quote from: roadfro on September 05, 2018, 03:53:06 PM
Quote from: halork on September 05, 2018, 11:43:27 AM
Apparently, Google Maps has decided that I-11 has already replaced I-515 through Las Vegas.  :confused:
That's new... And definitely an error.
Certainly an error for now

But also, perhaps foresight!

And yet I've been trying to get a new interchange in Wisconsin to show up on Google Maps for over a month :-/
Forget the I-41 haters



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