Last summer I was flipping stations and on the legacy hard rock/metal station they were playing Gorillaz' "Feel Good Inc." It's not a hard rock song, and to make it more suitable for the format it had been beefed up with some added metallic guitar riffs that were not part of the original recording. I looked on YouTube and could not find this version.
I've also heard a station play CSNY's 1980 harder rock remix of "Carry On" spliced together with the original 1970 "Questions" part of the song, which the remix did not include.
How does this work?
Editing machines would easily do it, but being the artist gets a royalty every time their music is aired, either they agreed to the edits, or the studio provided alternative formats and versions.
When I moved in with my mom and step dad, they listened to lite rock KIXI-FM at dinner. That was the first time I heard "Self Control" by Laura Branigan, which was on regular rotation. It wasn't until I heard the song on another station that I found the song has a somewhat hard guitar solo just before the vocal that was cut out of the KIXI version. I have never heard that version of the song anywhere else.
Back in 1987, some stations edited "I Want Your Sex" by George Michael to remove the word "sex" from the chorus. I think the only time I ever heard this version was once on WLAP-FM. I'm not sure, but I think they may have played the unedited version at other times. I honestly don't know whether they regularly played it when it was current, because I never listened to this station yet back then.
I remember WCLU played a special version of "Baby Come And Get It" by the Pointer Sisters in which they inserted a bunch of suggestive lines from movies. I was in middle school, so of course I thought that was hilarious.
A commercial radio station would never play an unauthorized radio edit, that's a good way to get sued into oblivion.
Starship's 1985 #1 single "We Built This City" has a segment with a voiceover by a radio DJ. The Top 40 station in South Bend overdubbed that segment with one of their own DJs promoting their station. I'm sure lots of other stations did the same.
Quote from: cabiness42 on January 12, 2022, 11:00:39 AM
Starship's 1985 #1 single "We Built This City" has a segment with a voiceover by a radio DJ. The Top 40 station in South Bend overdubbed that segment with one of their own DJs promoting their station. I'm sure lots of other stations did the same.
There was quite a bit of that with "We Built This City" when it was out. I'm guessing that it was approved by Starship. In the early 1990s there were a couple of songs "Show Me the Way" by Styx stands out that had cuts of servicemen edited into the song, and because of that it went to #3.
On the matter of different versions of the same song, it used to be even up into the 80s that there could be a long and short version of a song. The "album version" would be the long version, and the shorter one played at a top 40 station. Many times during much of the period they would be considered AM and FM versions (before top 40 disappeared on AM). I don't remember two different versions of "Self-Control", but there easily could have been. The long versions a lot of times would have more guitar riffs (Example-Sweet's "Love is Like Oxygen")
Not sure of the title or artist, but there's a song that starts with "come on, come on, turn the radio on", and on my local radio station "the radio" gets replaced with "FLY92" (the name of the station). Threw me through a loop when I heard the regular version of the song on another station.
There's also a rare case of the the radio getting the full version of the song but the album getting the edited one... for whatever reason, Taylor Swift removed "hey kids, spelling is fun!" from Me when the album was released.
And speaking of spelling, did the content rules for language get stricter in 2022? Replacing the F word with "forget" has been common for years, but at least on my local station, they were only doing it if the word was said in full. Now they're doing it even just for the letter when it's meant that way, making the "A, B, C, D, E, F, U" part of one song come out weird. The change happened right around New Year's.
In 2001, when "Because I Got High" by Afroman came out, for some reason some rock stations were playing it as a PSA. Both WBCN and WAAF played it and interjected a call-sign drop into it, and I never knew why.
I actually asked a DJ at WAAF a couple of years later and she confirmed they were playing it as a PSA but I never asked why they had to identify the station in the middle of it. I guess it doesn't really count as an edit, mark it more "weird behavior".
Quote from: vdeane on January 12, 2022, 01:00:42 PM
Not sure of the title or artist, but there's a song that starts with "come on, come on, turn the radio on", and on my local radio station "the radio" gets replaced with "FLY92" (the name of the station). Threw me through a loop when I heard the regular version of the song on another station.
I remember this one. I think it's Cheap Thrills. There was at least one station here in Chicago that had the same thing, B96 I think.
Quote from: vdeane on January 12, 2022, 01:00:42 PM
And speaking of spelling, did the content rules for language get stricter in 2022? Replacing the F word with "forget" has been common for years, but at least on my local station, they were only doing it if the word was said in full. Now they're doing it even just for the letter when it's meant that way, making the "A, B, C, D, E, F, U" part of one song come out weird. The change happened right around New Year's.
Yeah, I remember hearing Who Are You's "who the fuck are you" line being played on the radio, and in retrospect I'm quite surprised that the censors didn't drop the hammer on it back then like they do now. (Mind you, this was in an era where the F-bomb was forbidden in PG-rated movies, and to a certain extent still is, which may at long last explain why in Smokey & the Bandit, Jackie Gleason's insult to another sheriff was drowned out by a passing truck horn.) In later years, stations would play it with a new line ("who the hell are you") edited in. My guess is that the FCC finally got its shit together in '89 when they refused to let any station play a certain rap album that had a profane criticism against police officers, and many of you would know what I mean by it.
Quote from: Henry on January 12, 2022, 07:34:31 PM
Quote from: vdeane on January 12, 2022, 01:00:42 PM
And speaking of spelling, did the content rules for language get stricter in 2022? Replacing the F word with "forget" has been common for years, but at least on my local station, they were only doing it if the word was said in full. Now they're doing it even just for the letter when it's meant that way, making the "A, B, C, D, E, F, U" part of one song come out weird. The change happened right around New Year's.
Yeah, I remember hearing Who Are You's "who the fuck are you" line being played on the radio, and in retrospect I'm quite surprised that the censors didn't drop the hammer on it back then like they do now. (Mind you, this was in an era where the F-bomb was forbidden in PG-rated movies, and to a certain extent still is, which may at long last explain why in Smokey & the Bandit, Jackie Gleason's insult to another sheriff was drowned out by a passing truck horn.) In later years, stations would play it with a new line ("who the hell are you") edited in. My guess is that the FCC finally got its shit together in '89 when they refused to let any station play a certain rap album that had a profane criticism against police officers, and many of you would know what I mean by it.
PG movies can't have any F-bombs. PG-13 movies can have one but not more than one. Don't ask me why it's OK for a 13 year old to hear an F-bomb once but not more than once.
I remember the song "Fire" - the one written by Bruce Springsteen and popularized by the Pointer Sisters, back in the 1980's ...
The lyrics began: "I'm ridin' in your car, You turn on the radio ..."
followed by an injection of the local station's call letter jingle. Believe I've heard this on several different stations.
Today I heard a version of "99 Red Balloons" on KOMA (yes it's still around) that switched back and forth between the German and the English vocals. Afterward the DJ credited one of her friends for having made the mix. So apparently commercial radio stations will play unauthorized radio edits in some circumstances. (I would guess this is kosher because KOMA probably has the license to play both versions of the song.)
I was just reminded of an instance where an "Unauthorized" radio edit led to a legitimate authorized recording ...
Back in 1978, Neil Diamond and Barbra Streisand separately recorded the song "You Don't Bring Me Flowers" (written by Diamond) as album cuts. A local DJ created a "mash-up" of the two recordings to make it into a duet, and would play it on the air. Apparently this became more and more popular, to the point where the two singers decided to actually record the song as a duet. Later that year it was released as a single, going to #1 on the Billboard Hot 100.
When WKTI (Milwaukee) Played The Boys of Summer by Don Henley, the DJ would talk over the line" Don't look back you can never look back".
Quote from: cabiness42 on January 12, 2022, 07:36:29 PM
Quote from: Henry on January 12, 2022, 07:34:31 PM
Quote from: vdeane on January 12, 2022, 01:00:42 PM
And speaking of spelling, did the content rules for language get stricter in 2022? Replacing the F word with "forget" has been common for years, but at least on my local station, they were only doing it if the word was said in full. Now they're doing it even just for the letter when it's meant that way, making the "A, B, C, D, E, F, U" part of one song come out weird. The change happened right around New Year's.
Yeah, I remember hearing Who Are You's "who the fuck are you" line being played on the radio, and in retrospect I'm quite surprised that the censors didn't drop the hammer on it back then like they do now. (Mind you, this was in an era where the F-bomb was forbidden in PG-rated movies, and to a certain extent still is, which may at long last explain why in Smokey & the Bandit, Jackie Gleason's insult to another sheriff was drowned out by a passing truck horn.) In later years, stations would play it with a new line ("who the hell are you") edited in. My guess is that the FCC finally got its shit together in '89 when they refused to let any station play a certain rap album that had a profane criticism against police officers, and many of you would know what I mean by it.
PG movies can't have any F-bombs. PG-13 movies can have one but not more than one. Don't ask me why it's OK for a 13 year old to hear an F-bomb once but not more than once.
Ocean's Eleven has at least two f-bombs and is rated PG-13, so unless the f-bomb is a Chinese word for something else (in which case Yen's only English line in the movie is no longer English) the rule would be broken.
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Quote from: cabiness42 on January 12, 2022, 07:36:29 PM
Quote from: Henry on January 12, 2022, 07:34:31 PM
Quote from: vdeane on January 12, 2022, 01:00:42 PM
And speaking of spelling, did the content rules for language get stricter in 2022? Replacing the F word with "forget" has been common for years, but at least on my local station, they were only doing it if the word was said in full. Now they're doing it even just for the letter when it's meant that way, making the "A, B, C, D, E, F, U" part of one song come out weird. The change happened right around New Year's.
Yeah, I remember hearing Who Are You's "who the fuck are you" line being played on the radio, and in retrospect I'm quite surprised that the censors didn't drop the hammer on it back then like they do now. (Mind you, this was in an era where the F-bomb was forbidden in PG-rated movies, and to a certain extent still is, which may at long last explain why in Smokey & the Bandit, Jackie Gleason's insult to another sheriff was drowned out by a passing truck horn.) In later years, stations would play it with a new line ("who the hell are you") edited in. My guess is that the FCC finally got its shit together in '89 when they refused to let any station play a certain rap album that had a profane criticism against police officers, and many of you would know what I mean by it.
PG movies can't have any F-bombs. PG-13 movies can have one but not more than one. Don't ask me why it's OK for a 13 year old to hear an F-bomb once but not more than once.
Ocean's Eleven has at least two f-bombs and is rated PG-13, so unless the f-bomb is a Chinese word for something else (in which case Yen's only English line in the movie is no longer English) the rule would be broken.
I've heard several times that PG-13 can only have one f-bomb so I don't know if the standard changed or if there's more to it.
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Quote from: cabiness42 on January 12, 2022, 07:36:29 PM
Quote from: Henry on January 12, 2022, 07:34:31 PM
Quote from: vdeane on January 12, 2022, 01:00:42 PM
And speaking of spelling, did the content rules for language get stricter in 2022? Replacing the F word with "forget" has been common for years, but at least on my local station, they were only doing it if the word was said in full. Now they're doing it even just for the letter when it's meant that way, making the "A, B, C, D, E, F, U" part of one song come out weird. The change happened right around New Year's.
Yeah, I remember hearing Who Are You's "who the fuck are you" line being played on the radio, and in retrospect I'm quite surprised that the censors didn't drop the hammer on it back then like they do now. (Mind you, this was in an era where the F-bomb was forbidden in PG-rated movies, and to a certain extent still is, which may at long last explain why in Smokey & the Bandit, Jackie Gleason's insult to another sheriff was drowned out by a passing truck horn.) In later years, stations would play it with a new line ("who the hell are you") edited in. My guess is that the FCC finally got its shit together in '89 when they refused to let any station play a certain rap album that had a profane criticism against police officers, and many of you would know what I mean by it.
PG movies can't have any F-bombs. PG-13 movies can have one but not more than one. Don't ask me why it's OK for a 13 year old to hear an F-bomb once but not more than once.
Ocean's Eleven has at least two f-bombs and is rated PG-13, so unless the f-bomb is a Chinese word for something else (in which case Yen's only English line in the movie is no longer English) the rule would be broken.
I think what is allowed is up to the raters at the MPAA, who vary year to year and can be pretty inconsistent. The Martian also has two, and it's PG-13.
But interestingly, I've seen that movie on TV both in the US and Canada. In Canada, the F-bombs were left in and it was rated 14+. In the US, both were cut and it was TV-MA.
Quote from: dlsterner on January 12, 2022, 08:07:18 PM
I remember the song "Fire" - the one written by Bruce Springsteen and popularized by the Pointer Sisters, back in the 1980's ...
The lyrics began: "I'm ridin' in your car, You turn on the radio ..."
followed by an injection of the local station's call letter jingle. Believe I've heard this on several different stations.
WLS had their own version. IIRC, one other Chicago station did as well (WBBM-FM?). These specific versions were recorded by the Pointer Sisters themselves.
Quote from: Henry on January 12, 2022, 07:34:31 PM
Yeah, I remember hearing Who Are You's "who the fuck are you" line being played on the radio, and in retrospect I'm quite surprised that the censors didn't drop the hammer on it back then like they do now.
The single "AM radio" version of Who Are You had "Who the hell are you" instead of the F-bomb that FM stations got away with. Both were Roger Daltrey's vocals. Nowadays, at least on the classic rock stations in Phoenix, the AM version is played.
Quote(Mind you, this was in an era where the F-bomb was forbidden in PG-rated movies, and to a certain extent still is, which may at long last explain why in Smokey & the Bandit, Jackie Gleason's insult to another sheriff was drowned out by a passing truck horn.)
The TV release of Smokey and the Bandit had Henry Corden (aka Fred Flintstone #2) overdubbing Gleason's "sumbitch" lines as "sumbuck." IIRC, this release was in the late 1980s, after Gleason had died.
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on January 12, 2022, 11:31:50 PM
Quote from: Henry on January 12, 2022, 07:34:31 PM
Yeah, I remember hearing Who Are You's "who the fuck are you" line being played on the radio, and in retrospect I'm quite surprised that the censors didn't drop the hammer on it back then like they do now.
The single "AM radio" version of Who Are You had "Who the hell are you" instead of the F-bomb that FM stations got away with. Both were Roger Daltrey's vocals. Nowadays, at least on the classic rock stations in Phoenix, the AM version is played.
Must be a regional difference, because Daltrey's F-bombs can still be heard in Duluth, MN.
Similar to that, I'm not sure if I've ever heard this song play on US airwaves, but "High School Confidential" by Rough Trade plays pretty often on some Thunder Bay radio stations, with the uncensored lyrics "she's a cool blonde scheming bitch" and "she makes me cream my jeans when she's coming my way." I almost spit out my water the first time I heard it.
Quote from: cabiness42 on January 12, 2022, 11:00:39 AM
Starship's 1985 #1 single "We Built This City" has a segment with a voiceover by a radio DJ. The Top 40 station in South Bend overdubbed that segment with one of their own DJs promoting their station.
I once heard that Starship released two versions of "We Built This City", one with the radio DJ voiceover, and one without it. They said the purpose of the latter was just that -- so a local DJ could add their own rap. BTW, the one time I heard that local DJ was on Z-93 in Dayton, where he made mention of "those barrels (or was it 'barricades') on I-75", which was undergoing reconstruction through downtown at the time. Resurfacing, converting bridge parapets and I think the median to Jersey-type barrier style, fixing bad joints, and lengthening a single on-ramp. Still that was minor compared to what was to be in the 00's and new 10s.
I know of two songs that have a silent spot in the middle, in which at least one DJ adds their own line.
One is "Good Lovin'" by The Rascals. During the break between the instrumental interlude and the refrain, I've heard a line by Homer Simpson.
The other is "Love is Alright Tonight" by Rick Springfield. The silence is after the line "it's gonna be alright"; one morning DJ threw in the line "Time to get up!" in that space.
The song "Fire" by The Pointer Sisters had a well-known silent spot as well, though I've never heard any interjections. I did, however, hear another song begin there once.
At least once I heard a DJ parrot the "Stronger than dirt" line at the end of "Touch Me" by The Doors.
Finally, going back over 42 years, I remember a DJ playing a trumpet along with the final, instrumental verse of "Reminiscing" by The Little River Band.
(For what it's worth, a radio station in Columbus did a parody of Billy Joel's "The Longest Time" during a major I-71 project. It went "Oh, oh oh oh, stuck on 71... for the longest time")
Quote from: lepidopteran on January 12, 2022, 11:43:20 PM
(For what it's worth, a radio station in Columbus did a parody of Billy Joel's "The Longest Time" during a major I-71 project. It went "Oh, oh oh oh, stuck on 71... for the longest time")
97.1 FM The Drive in Chicago has (or at least used to) a joke version of "Let 'Em In" by Wings where they'd sing about the "Stevenson", how the traffic was bad. I don't really remember the other words they used though.
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Quote from: lepidopteran on January 12, 2022, 11:43:20 PM
(For what it's worth, a radio station in Columbus did a parody of Billy Joel's "The Longest Time" during a major I-71 project. It went "Oh, oh oh oh, stuck on 71... for the longest time")
97.1 FM The Drive in Chicago has (or at least used to) a joke version of "Let 'Em In" by Wings where they'd sing about the "Stevenson", how the traffic was bad. I don't really remember the other words they used though.
Whenever that song came on the radio, I used to sing, "Bert and Ernie, Phil and Don..."
Cox Media still edits the GD word in The Eagles Life In The Fast Lane and the homophobic term in Dyer Straits Money For Nothing song on WMMO.
I've always wondered how the word "bullshit" was edited in Pink Floyd's Money. Did they substitute another word for it, or was it simply muted out?
Quote from: Henry on January 13, 2022, 11:45:01 AM
I've always wondered how the word "bullshit" was edited in Pink Floyd's Money. Did they substitute another word for it, or was it simply muted out?
Usually when it was played in the '80s or early '90s, it was unedited, but sometimes it just went "bull."
Quote from: bandit957 on January 13, 2022, 11:49:08 AM
Quote from: Henry on January 13, 2022, 11:45:01 AM
I've always wondered how the word "bullshit" was edited in Pink Floyd's Money. Did they substitute another word for it, or was it simply muted out?
Usually when it was played in the '80s or early '90s, it was unedited, but sometimes it just went "bull."
Yet REO Speedwagon when they had Tough Guys released over 40 years ago, WPLJ in New York never edited the S word out of the song. Neither did they for Party Time or Party Town ( Glen Fred's first post Eagle solo song) with the line" Kiss my Ass."
I do remember Carol Miller talking about it after playing the song once.
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Quote from: vdeane on January 12, 2022, 01:00:42 PM
And speaking of spelling, did the content rules for language get stricter in 2022? Replacing the F word with "forget" has been common for years, but at least on my local station, they were only doing it if the word was said in full. Now they're doing it even just for the letter when it's meant that way, making the "A, B, C, D, E, F, U" part of one song come out weird. The change happened right around New Year's.
Yeah, I remember hearing Who Are You's "who the fuck are you" line being played on the radio, and in retrospect I'm quite surprised that the censors didn't drop the hammer on it back then like they do now. (Mind you, this was in an era where the F-bomb was forbidden in PG-rated movies, and to a certain extent still is, which may at long last explain why in Smokey & the Bandit, Jackie Gleason's insult to another sheriff was drowned out by a passing truck horn.) In later years, stations would play it with a new line ("who the hell are you") edited in. My guess is that the FCC finally got its shit together in '89 when they refused to let any station play a certain rap album that had a profane criticism against police officers, and many of you would know what I mean by it.
PG movies can't have any F-bombs. PG-13 movies can have one but not more than one. Don't ask me why it's OK for a 13 year old to hear an F-bomb once but not more than once.
Ocean's Eleven has at least two f-bombs and is rated PG-13, so unless the f-bomb is a Chinese word for something else (in which case Yen's only English line in the movie is no longer English) the rule would be broken.
I think what is allowed is up to the raters at the MPAA, who vary year to year and can be pretty inconsistent. The Martian also has two, and it's PG-13.
But interestingly, I've seen that movie on TV both in the US and Canada. In Canada, the F-bombs were left in and it was rated 14+. In the US, both were cut and it was TV-MA.
Why the hell does the Simpsons have a PG rating but the movie is PG-13?! :-D :ded:
Quote from: dlsterner on January 12, 2022, 08:20:46 PM
I was just reminded of an instance where an "Unauthorized" radio edit led to a legitimate authorized recording ...
Back in 1978, Neil Diamond and Barbra Streisand separately recorded the song "You Don't Bring Me Flowers" (written by Diamond) as album cuts. A local DJ created a "mash-up" of the two recordings to make it into a duet, and would play it on the air. Apparently this became more and more popular, to the point where the two singers decided to actually record the song as a duet. Later that year it was released as a single, going to #1 on the Billboard Hot 100.
That would be WAKY in Louisville. One of those former top 40 AM stations.
Quote from: KeithE4Phx on January 12, 2022, 11:31:50 PM
Quote from: Henry on January 12, 2022, 07:34:31 PM
Yeah, I remember hearing Who Are You's "who the fuck are you" line being played on the radio, and in retrospect I'm quite surprised that the censors didn't drop the hammer on it back then like they do now.
The single "AM radio" version of Who Are You had "Who the hell are you" instead of the F-bomb that FM stations got away with. Both were Roger Daltrey's vocals. Nowadays, at least on the classic rock stations in Phoenix, the AM version is played.
Quote(Mind you, this was in an era where the F-bomb was forbidden in PG-rated movies, and to a certain extent still is, which may at long last explain why in Smokey & the Bandit, Jackie Gleason's insult to another sheriff was drowned out by a passing truck horn.)
The TV release of Smokey and the Bandit had Henry Corden (aka Fred Flintstone #2) overdubbing Gleason's "sumbitch" lines as "sumbuck." IIRC, this release was in the late 1980s, after Gleason had died.
It was overdubbed as "scumbum." They literally invented a new insult.
Quote from: roadman65 on January 13, 2022, 11:54:31 AM
Yet REO Speedwagon when they had Tough Guys released over 40 years ago, WPLJ in New York never edited the S word out of the song. Neither did they for Party Time or Party Town ( Glen Fred's first post Eagle solo song) with the line" Kiss my Ass."
Q-102 in Cincinnati never edited the Glenn Frey one. I also remember hearing it once on WLAP-FM and it actually sounded like they were trying to call attention to it.
Quote from: vdeane on January 12, 2022, 01:00:42 PM
Not sure of the title or artist, but there's a song that starts with "come on, come on, turn the radio on", and on my local radio station "the radio" gets replaced with "FLY92" (the name of the station). Threw me through a loop when I heard the regular version of the song on another station.
There's also a rare case of the the radio getting the full version of the song but the album getting the edited one... for whatever reason, Taylor Swift removed "hey kids, spelling is fun!" from Me when the album was released.
And speaking of spelling, did the content rules for language get stricter in 2022? Replacing the F word with "forget" has been common for years, but at least on my local station, they were only doing it if the word was said in full. Now they're doing it even just for the letter when it's meant that way, making the "A, B, C, D, E, F, U" part of one song come out weird. The change happened right around New Year's.
The song sounds like Power by Red Rider.
In The Devil went down to Georgia, the line Son of a Bitch was changed to Son of a Gun on many radio stations.
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Quote from: vdeane on January 12, 2022, 01:00:42 PM
Not sure of the title or artist, but there's a song that starts with "come on, come on, turn the radio on", and on my local radio station "the radio" gets replaced with "FLY92" (the name of the station). Threw me through a loop when I heard the regular version of the song on another station.
There's also a rare case of the the radio getting the full version of the song but the album getting the edited one... for whatever reason, Taylor Swift removed "hey kids, spelling is fun!" from Me when the album was released.
And speaking of spelling, did the content rules for language get stricter in 2022? Replacing the F word with "forget" has been common for years, but at least on my local station, they were only doing it if the word was said in full. Now they're doing it even just for the letter when it's meant that way, making the "A, B, C, D, E, F, U" part of one song come out weird. The change happened right around New Year's.
The song sounds like Power by Red Rider.
Went ahead and did a couple song lookups. The first song is Cheap Thrills by Sia. The last is in fact called ABCDEFU and is by GAYLE.
Quote from: bandit957 on January 13, 2022, 11:49:08 AM
Quote from: Henry on January 13, 2022, 11:45:01 AM
I've always wondered how the word "bullshit" was edited in Pink Floyd's Money. Did they substitute another word for it, or was it simply muted out?
Usually when it was played in the '80s or early '90s, it was unedited, but sometimes it just went "bull."
Just found that edit on YouTube:
Quote from: snowc on January 13, 2022, 11:57:37 AM
Why the hell does the Simpsons have a PG rating but the movie is PG-13?! :-D :ded:
Because of Bart's wiener.
I remember when AM stations usually played the short version of a song, while FM stations usually played the longer version. A good example from the 1980s is "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" by Michael Jackson. I think the AM version cut out several parts, including a part right before he yells, "Hee-ha!"
Quote from: bandit957 on January 14, 2022, 12:28:33 PM
I remember when AM stations usually played the short version of a song, while FM stations usually played the longer version. A good example from the 1980s is "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" by Michael Jackson. I think the AM version cut out several parts, including a part right before he yells, "Hee-ha!"
I remember a few FM stations playing the short versions of songs. The former 70's classic hits station would play the edited version of
Blinded by the Light by Manfred Mann that cut out the entire middle jam portion and cut Yes's
Roundabout down from 8 1/2 to 2 1/2 minutes. The classic rock stations would play the longer versions. Also, the classic hits station played the studio version of J. Geils's
Musta Got Lost, while the classic rock stations would play the live version complete with Peter Wolf's rap at the beginning.
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Quote from: snowc on January 13, 2022, 11:57:37 AM
Why the hell does the Simpsons have a PG rating but the movie is PG-13?! :-D :ded:
Because of Bart's wiener.
hmmmm. :hmmm: :pan:
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Quote from: bandit957 on January 14, 2022, 12:28:33 PM
I remember when AM stations usually played the short version of a song, while FM stations usually played the longer version. A good example from the 1980s is "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" by Michael Jackson. I think the AM version cut out several parts, including a part right before he yells, "Hee-ha!"
I remember a few FM stations playing the short versions of songs. The former 70's classic hits station would play the edited version of Blinded by the Light by Manfred Mann that cut out the entire middle jam portion and cut Yes's Roundabout down from 8 1/2 to 2 1/2 minutes. The classic rock stations would play the longer versions. Also, the classic hits station played the studio version of J. Geils's Musta Got Lost, while the classic rock stations would play the live version complete with Peter Wolf's rap at the beginning.
So far, the only thing I don't like about SiriusXM is the fact that they frequently play the edited-for-length radio versions of songs.
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And speaking of spelling, did the content rules for language get stricter in 2022? Replacing the F word with "forget" has been common for years, but at least on my local station, they were only doing it if the word was said in full. Now they're doing it even just for the letter when it's meant that way, making the "A, B, C, D, E, F, U" part of one song come out weird. The change happened right around New Year's.
Yeah, I remember hearing Who Are You's "who the fuck are you" line being played on the radio, and in retrospect I'm quite surprised that the censors didn't drop the hammer on it back then like they do now. (Mind you, this was in an era where the F-bomb was forbidden in PG-rated movies, and to a certain extent still is, which may at long last explain why in Smokey & the Bandit, Jackie Gleason's insult to another sheriff was drowned out by a passing truck horn.) In later years, stations would play it with a new line ("who the hell are you") edited in. My guess is that the FCC finally got its shit together in '89 when they refused to let any station play a certain rap album that had a profane criticism against police officers, and many of you would know what I mean by it.
PG movies can't have any F-bombs. PG-13 movies can have one but not more than one. Don't ask me why it's OK for a 13 year old to hear an F-bomb once but not more than once.
Ocean's Eleven has at least two f-bombs and is rated PG-13, so unless the f-bomb is a Chinese word for something else (in which case Yen's only English line in the movie is no longer English) the rule would be broken.
I think what is allowed is up to the raters at the MPAA, who vary year to year and can be pretty inconsistent. The Martian also has two, and it's PG-13.
But, I've seen that movie on TV both in the US and Canada. In Canada, the F-bombs were left in and it was rated 14+. In the US, both were cut and it was TV-MA.
The MPAA definition that I saw says "multiple uses" get you an 'R'. Is two "Multiple"? I guess it's up to the raters....
I remember "Dress You Up" by Madonna having two different openings. One version started with sort of a rumble. The other version started with a "clank clank clank!" The second version is the only one I've heard in decades.
A local AM station used to play the rumble version, until one day, a DJ said after the rumbling, "Ew, Madonna, that's gross!" After that, they switched to the "clank" version.
I was listening to KOMA (which I mentioned in my last post) again and they played a version of "Money for Nothing" that entirely skipped over the verse where they repeatedly use a word which is now considered to be a much harsher slur than it was when they recorded it.
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 14, 2022, 07:50:31 PM
I was listening to KOMA (which I mentioned in my last post) again and they played a version of "Money for Nothing" that entirely skipped over the verse where they repeatedly use a word which is now considered to be a much harsher slur than it was when they recorded it.
Skipping over that verse was common. The pop stations around here usually skipped it. I think the promotional single skipped it, but I think the commercial single had that verse. I'm not sure about that though.
Quote from: bandit957 on January 14, 2022, 07:56:26 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 14, 2022, 07:50:31 PM
I was listening to KOMA (which I mentioned in my last post) again and they played a version of "Money for Nothing" that entirely skipped over the verse where they repeatedly use a word which is now considered to be a much harsher slur than it was when they recorded it.
Skipping over that verse was common. The pop stations around here usually skipped it. I think the promotional single skipped it, but I think the commercial single had that verse. I'm not sure about that though.
Also, 'American Top 40' skipped that verse, but 'Countdown America' played that verse.
Kid Rock's "Cowboy" on his debut album had a "radio edit" that I'm not sure was intentional.
Quote from: bandit957 on January 14, 2022, 07:56:26 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 14, 2022, 07:50:31 PM
I was listening to KOMA (which I mentioned in my last post) again and they played a version of "Money for Nothing" that entirely skipped over the verse where they repeatedly use a word which is now considered to be a much harsher slur than it was when they recorded it.
Skipping over that verse was common. The pop stations around here usually skipped it. I think the promotional single skipped it, but I think the commercial single had that verse. I'm not sure about that though.
Huh, never knew that. KRXO (the local classic rock station) would always play it with that verse intact, which is sort of odd since it and KOMA are both owned by Tyler Media. (Then again, I haven't listened to KRXO in a long time, since they changed frequencies and transmitters, and I'm pretty sure I've used lightbulbs with a higher wattage rating than they have now. So it's possible management made the change on both stations.)
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 14, 2022, 09:21:25 PM
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Quote from: Scott5114 on January 14, 2022, 07:50:31 PM
I was listening to KOMA (which I mentioned in my last post) again and they played a version of "Money for Nothing" that entirely skipped over the verse where they repeatedly use a word which is now considered to be a much harsher slur than it was when they recorded it.
Skipping over that verse was common. The pop stations around here usually skipped it. I think the promotional single skipped it, but I think the commercial single had that verse. I'm not sure about that though.
Huh, never knew that. KRXO (the local classic rock station) would always play it with that verse intact, which is sort of odd since it and KOMA are both owned by Tyler Media. (Then again, I haven't listened to KRXO in a long time, since they changed frequencies and transmitters, and I'm pretty sure I've used lightbulbs with a higher wattage rating than they have now. So it's possible management made the change on both stations.)
Although I understand why the verse was skipped, the fact that the song lyrics were based loosely upon a conversation that Knopfler overheard seems to add more weight to what language was tolerated in the past (i.e., it wasn't just Mark totally making stuff up, but people back then really spoke like that...and it was wrong).
Quote from: Rothman on January 14, 2022, 09:53:13 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 14, 2022, 09:21:25 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on January 14, 2022, 07:56:26 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 14, 2022, 07:50:31 PM
I was listening to KOMA (which I mentioned in my last post) again and they played a version of "Money for Nothing" that entirely skipped over the verse where they repeatedly use a word which is now considered to be a much harsher slur than it was when they recorded it.
Skipping over that verse was common. The pop stations around here usually skipped it. I think the promotional single skipped it, but I think the commercial single had that verse. I'm not sure about that though.
Huh, never knew that. KRXO (the local classic rock station) would always play it with that verse intact, which is sort of odd since it and KOMA are both owned by Tyler Media. (Then again, I haven't listened to KRXO in a long time, since they changed frequencies and transmitters, and I'm pretty sure I've used lightbulbs with a higher wattage rating than they have now. So it's possible management made the change on both stations.)
Although I understand why the verse was skipped, the fact that the song lyrics were based loosely upon a conversation that Knopfler overheard seems to add more weight to what language was tolerated in the past (i.e., it wasn't just Mark totally making stuff up, but people back then really spoke like that...and it was wrong).
I've heard a version with the word backmasked, much like MTV used to do with Tom Petty's You Don't Know How it Feels (to be Me) and the "Let's roll another
tnioj" line
I remember the AM versions of "When Doves Cry" and "Purple Rain" by Prince being much shorter than the FM versions. They basically cut it off right when the long endings began. Even "Little Red Corvette" had a shorter AM version.
The AM version of "Cum On Feel The Noize" by Quiet Riot deleted the third verse.
"Eyes Without A Face" by Billy Idol also had a shorter AM version.
Quote from: Road Hog on January 14, 2022, 08:11:49 PM
Kid Rock's "Cowboy" on his debut album had a "radio edit" that I'm not sure was intentional.
It was intentional, as it still appears on the uncensored version of the album. Also, Devil Without A Cause was actually Kid Rock's fourth album.
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Quote from: Scott5114 on January 14, 2022, 09:21:25 PM
Quote from: bandit957 on January 14, 2022, 07:56:26 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 14, 2022, 07:50:31 PM
I was listening to KOMA (which I mentioned in my last post) again and they played a version of "Money for Nothing" that entirely skipped over the verse where they repeatedly use a word which is now considered to be a much harsher slur than it was when they recorded it.
Skipping over that verse was common. The pop stations around here usually skipped it. I think the promotional single skipped it, but I think the commercial single had that verse. I'm not sure about that though.
Huh, never knew that. KRXO (the local classic rock station) would always play it with that verse intact, which is sort of odd since it and KOMA are both owned by Tyler Media. (Then again, I haven't listened to KRXO in a long time, since they changed frequencies and transmitters, and I'm pretty sure I've used lightbulbs with a higher wattage rating than they have now. So it's possible management made the change on both stations.)
Although I understand why the verse was skipped, the fact that the song lyrics were based loosely upon a conversation that Knopfler overheard seems to add more weight to what language was tolerated in the past (i.e., it wasn't just Mark totally making stuff up, but people back then really spoke like that...and it was wrong).
I recall Canada's communication commission wanted to ban the uncensored version from playing on any radio station in the country, which caused a backlash where classic rock stations in more conservative parts of the country played the song on loop to protest.
Quote from: bandit957 on January 14, 2022, 11:27:54 PM
I remember the AM versions of "When Doves Cry" and "Purple Rain" by Prince being much shorter than the FM versions. They basically cut it off right when the long endings began. Even "Little Red Corvette" had a shorter AM version.
The AM version of "Cum On Feel The Noize" by Quiet Riot deleted the third verse.
"Eyes Without A Face" by Billy Idol also had a shorter AM version.
Radio edits were very much in use in past years. Chicago's "Make Me Smile" was a combination of "Make Me Smile" and "Now More Than Ever" from "Ballet For A Girl In Buchanan" (
sic, she was really from Buckhannon, WV), "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is" had the free form piano and part of the introduction deleted, and both "Questions 67 and 68" and "25 or 6 to 4" were chopped up big-time. And the single version of Peter Frampton's "Do You Feel Like We Do" was a whole lot shorter than the album version.
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Quote from: Scott5114 on January 14, 2022, 07:50:31 PM
I was listening to KOMA (which I mentioned in my last post) again and they played a version of "Money for Nothing" that entirely skipped over the verse where they repeatedly use a word which is now considered to be a much harsher slur than it was when they recorded it.
Skipping over that verse was common. The pop stations around here usually skipped it. I think the promotional single skipped it, but I think the commercial single had that verse. I'm not sure about that though.
Huh, never knew that. KRXO (the local classic rock station) would always play it with that verse intact, which is sort of odd since it and KOMA are both owned by Tyler Media. (Then again, I haven't listened to KRXO in a long time, since they changed frequencies and transmitters, and I'm pretty sure I've used lightbulbs with a higher wattage rating than they have now. So it's possible management made the change on both stations.)
My dad used to tape Friday Night Videos, which was aired on NBC in the early 80s, and their version of the video from Money for Nothing had the entire verse cut out.
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Quote from: Scott5114 on January 14, 2022, 07:50:31 PM
I was listening to KOMA (which I mentioned in my last post) again and they played a version of "Money for Nothing" that entirely skipped over the verse where they repeatedly use a word which is now considered to be a much harsher slur than it was when they recorded it.
Skipping over that verse was common. The pop stations around here usually skipped it. I think the promotional single skipped it, but I think the commercial single had that verse. I'm not sure about that though.
Huh, never knew that. KRXO (the local classic rock station) would always play it with that verse intact, which is sort of odd since it and KOMA are both owned by Tyler Media. (Then again, I haven't listened to KRXO in a long time, since they changed frequencies and transmitters, and I'm pretty sure I've used lightbulbs with a higher wattage rating than they have now. So it's possible management made the change on both stations.)
My dad used to tape Friday Night Videos, which was aired on NBC in the early 80s, and their version of the video from Money for Nothing had the entire verse cut out.
Wow, I hadn't thought about that show in at least 30 years until you mentioned it.
Quote from: bandit957 on January 12, 2022, 10:37:51 AM
Back in 1987, some stations edited "I Want Your Sex" by George Michael to remove the word "sex" from the chorus. I think the only time I ever heard this version was once on WLAP-FM. I'm not sure, but I think they may have played the unedited version at other times. I honestly don't know whether they regularly played it when it was current, because I never listened to this station yet back then.
A number of radio stations banned I Want Your Sex. Despite that, it did peak at #2 on the Billboard Hot 100. Probably would've hit #1 had it not been banned.
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Quote from: bandit957 on January 12, 2022, 10:37:51 AM
Back in 1987, some stations edited "I Want Your Sex" by George Michael to remove the word "sex" from the chorus. I think the only time I ever heard this version was once on WLAP-FM. I'm not sure, but I think they may have played the unedited version at other times. I honestly don't know whether they regularly played it when it was current, because I never listened to this station yet back then.
A number of radio stations banned I Want Your Sex. Despite that, it did peak at #2 on the Billboard Hot 100. Probably would've hit #1 had it not been banned.
Q-102 in Cincinnati actually deleted this record from 'American Top 40'.
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Back in 1987, some stations edited "I Want Your Sex" by George Michael to remove the word "sex" from the chorus. I think the only time I ever heard this version was once on WLAP-FM. I'm not sure, but I think they may have played the unedited version at other times. I honestly don't know whether they regularly played it when it was current, because I never listened to this station yet back then.
A number of radio stations banned I Want Your Sex. Despite that, it did peak at #2 on the Billboard Hot 100. Probably would've hit #1 had it not been banned.
Q-102 in Cincinnati actually deleted this record from 'American Top 40'.
If I remember correctly, it was the only record that Casey Kasem refused to mention by name during the recording of 'American Top 40'.
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Starship's 1985 #1 single "We Built This City" has a segment with a voiceover by a radio DJ. The Top 40 station in South Bend overdubbed that segment with one of their own DJs promoting their station. I'm sure lots of other stations did the same.
There was quite a bit of that with "We Built This City" when it was out. I'm guessing that it was approved by Starship. In the early 1990s there were a couple of songs "Show Me the Way" by Styx stands out that had cuts of servicemen edited into the song, and because of that it went to #3.
On the matter of different versions of the same song, it used to be even up into the 80s that there could be a long and short version of a song. The "album version" would be the long version, and the shorter one played at a top 40 station. Many times during much of the period they would be considered AM and FM versions (before top 40 disappeared on AM). I don't remember two different versions of "Self-Control", but there easily could have been. The long versions a lot of times would have more guitar riffs (Example-Sweet's "Love is Like Oxygen")
When I heard "Self Control" again on KIXI after hearing the full version, I could hear an edit right before the vocal. You would think the record label with access to the original session tapes would make a more seamless edit. Not that bad razor blade edits hadn't gotten out in the past. One of the charms of Little Steven's Underground Garage is that the host sources the original mono versions of songs from the 60s he plays. "Bend Me, Shape Me" has a bad edit on the older version that goes "B-Bend me, shape me..." but that's disappeared in modern restored stereo CD versions.
As for "I Want Your Sex" being dropped out of American Top 40, instructions were given on how to remove it to stations for each week the song was on the countdown. http://charismusicgroup.com/Cue%20Sheets/08-01-87.pdf
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Back in 1987, some stations edited "I Want Your Sex" by George Michael to remove the word "sex" from the chorus. I think the only time I ever heard this version was once on WLAP-FM. I'm not sure, but I think they may have played the unedited version at other times. I honestly don't know whether they regularly played it when it was current, because I never listened to this station yet back then.
A number of radio stations banned I Want Your Sex. Despite that, it did peak at #2 on the Billboard Hot 100. Probably would've hit #1 had it not been banned.
Q-102 in Cincinnati actually deleted this record from 'American Top 40'.
If I remember correctly, it was the only record that Casey Kasem refused to mention by name during the recording of 'American Top 40'.
When Shadoe Stevens hosted AT40, he refused to say "Me So Horny" from 2 Live Crew.
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Quote from: Scott5114 on January 14, 2022, 07:50:31 PM
I was listening to KOMA (which I mentioned in my last post) again and they played a version of "Money for Nothing" that entirely skipped over the verse where they repeatedly use a word which is now considered to be a much harsher slur than it was when they recorded it.
Skipping over that verse was common. The pop stations around here usually skipped it. I think the promotional single skipped it, but I think the commercial single had that verse. I'm not sure about that though.
Huh, never knew that. KRXO (the local classic rock station) would always play it with that verse intact, which is sort of odd since it and KOMA are both owned by Tyler Media. (Then again, I haven't listened to KRXO in a long time, since they changed frequencies and transmitters, and I'm pretty sure I've used lightbulbs with a higher wattage rating than they have now. So it's possible management made the change on both stations.)
Although I understand why the verse was skipped, the fact that the song lyrics were based loosely upon a conversation that Knopfler overheard seems to add more weight to what language was tolerated in the past (i.e., it wasn't just Mark totally making stuff up, but people back then really spoke like that...and it was wrong).
I recall Canada's communication commission wanted to ban the uncensored version from playing on any radio station in the country, which caused a backlash where classic rock stations in more conservative parts of the country played the song on loop to protest.
I'm pretty sure that I first heard the oft-omitted verse in Brazil. The song was #1 in the country Christmas week in 1985. When I was there in January 1985, the #1 song was a song of which you've likely never heard unless you lived in the Portuphonic world (maybe even just Brazil or even RJ state) and maybe not even then. It was the theme from a nighttime soap opera. During 1985, a satellite was launched that pretty much brought Brazil into the rest of the world. I bought the "Brothers in Arms" medium after I got back to California (and maybe after I heard "So Far Away"). I think that I bought "The Roaring Silence" on the same trip to Tower. The oft-omitted verse *WAS* on the medium.
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Quote from: bandit957 on January 12, 2022, 10:37:51 AM
Back in 1987, some stations edited "I Want Your Sex" by George Michael to remove the word "sex" from the chorus. I think the only time I ever heard this version was once on WLAP-FM. I'm not sure, but I think they may have played the unedited version at other times. I honestly don't know whether they regularly played it when it was current, because I never listened to this station yet back then.
A number of radio stations banned I Want Your Sex. Despite that, it did peak at #2 on the Billboard Hot 100. Probably would've hit #1 had it not been banned.
The publicity from being banned might have actually boosted the song's popularity...
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Quote from: bandit957 on January 12, 2022, 10:37:51 AM
Back in 1987, some stations edited "I Want Your Sex" by George Michael to remove the word "sex" from the chorus. I think the only time I ever heard this version was once on WLAP-FM. I'm not sure, but I think they may have played the unedited version at other times. I honestly don't know whether they regularly played it when it was current, because I never listened to this station yet back then.
A number of radio stations banned I Want Your Sex. Despite that, it did peak at #2 on the Billboard Hot 100. Probably would've hit #1 had it not been banned.
The publicity from being banned might have actually boosted the song's popularity...
I think that was certainly the case with Luther Campbell and 2 Live Crew.
Sirius XM's Dance station "BPM" would regularly play a demo version of Avicii's song "Silhouettes". It was a early version that had Salem Al Fakir as the singer instead of the final female vocalist. It's always been weird that they played this version instead of the final one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKLlqfHOSNs
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Quote from: golden eagle on January 17, 2022, 09:46:18 AM
Quote from: bandit957 on January 12, 2022, 10:37:51 AM
Back in 1987, some stations edited "I Want Your Sex" by George Michael to remove the word "sex" from the chorus. I think the only time I ever heard this version was once on WLAP-FM. I'm not sure, but I think they may have played the unedited version at other times. I honestly don't know whether they regularly played it when it was current, because I never listened to this station yet back then.
A number of radio stations banned I Want Your Sex. Despite that, it did peak at #2 on the Billboard Hot 100. Probably would've hit #1 had it not been banned.
The publicity from being banned might have actually boosted the song's popularity...
I think that was certainly the case with Luther Campbell and 2 Live Crew.
If we could gamble on "HB referencing 2 Live Crew at some point" on this forum we'd probably all net a rather large return :)
(I also appreciate that an 11 year old me was introduced to lines from Full Metal Jacket due to that musical act)