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From an Interchange to a STOP Sign

Started by michravera, September 29, 2019, 12:41:16 PM

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sprjus4

Quote from: Brian556 on October 02, 2019, 09:29:48 PM
In Texas, President George Bush Turnpike ends at I-30 frontage roads. Intersection controlled by 2 30x30 BlinkerSign STOP signs. GSV shows intersection has been modified since I last went through. Crash barrels have been added. Drivers were slamming into retaining wall beyond the second stop sign.

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.8580289,-96.5551605,3a,22.4y,151.99h,88.87t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1s-ob_tas4ydfZ8ZbLP49Ogg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo2.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D-ob_tas4ydfZ8ZbLP49Ogg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D84.36013%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100
Two warning signs plus two stop signs, and some people still don't get the message.

S-T-O-P.


kphoger

Quote from: michravera on October 01, 2019, 03:50:19 PM
I, the OP ... explicitly wanted to exclude route endings.

Repeated (again) for emphasis.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
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Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

tchafe1978

https://goo.gl/maps/iwZLRyjH2XtEmuGg8

Does this count? The US 12 freeway ends at a atop sign in Wisconsin just north of the Illinois state line, but US 12 itself doesn't end.

jp the roadgeek

NH 101 does this.  Goes from a full freeway west of I-95 to a divided 2-lane highway to a Super 2, becomes a pair of one-way streets, and ends at a stop sign at NH 1A in Hampton Beach. 
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

roadman65

How is the north end of I-229 in SD?  Is that still pass under an interchange with I-90 to become a rural road still?
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jp the roadgeek

#30
MA 57 is a good example.  Coming out of a rotary at US 5, it becomes a full 4 lane freeway before coming to an abrupt end at MA 187 about 4 miles later.  MA 57 then turns onto MA 187 North for a short stretch to the center of Feeding Hills. 

https://goo.gl/maps/HrTksEdY8CK9Kqc39
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

thspfc

Quote from: roadman65 on October 04, 2019, 10:30:52 PM
How is the north end of I-229 in SD?  Is that still pass under an interchange with I-90 to become a rural road still?
Yes. I think it should keep going north, but to where I don't know.

kphoger

Quote from: tchafe1978 on October 04, 2019, 08:42:51 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/iwZLRyjH2XtEmuGg8

Does this count? The US 12 freeway ends at a atop sign in Wisconsin just north of the Illinois state line, but US 12 itself doesn't end.

Awesome example!
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

sprjus4

Quote from: kphoger on October 09, 2019, 02:09:52 PM
Quote from: tchafe1978 on October 04, 2019, 08:42:51 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/iwZLRyjH2XtEmuGg8

Does this count? The US 12 freeway ends at a atop sign in Wisconsin just north of the Illinois state line, but US 12 itself doesn't end.

Awesome example!
Same situation as my previous example that apparently didn't "qualify". The freeway ends, but TX-35 continues north.

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.0612132,-97.0661233,1973m/data=!3m1!1e3

kphoger

Quote from: sprjus4 on October 09, 2019, 05:59:08 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 09, 2019, 02:09:52 PM

Quote from: tchafe1978 on October 04, 2019, 08:42:51 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/iwZLRyjH2XtEmuGg8

Does this count? The US 12 freeway ends at a atop sign in Wisconsin just north of the Illinois state line, but US 12 itself doesn't end.

Awesome example!

Same situation as my previous example that apparently didn't "qualify". The freeway ends, but TX-35 continues north.

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.0612132,-97.0661233,1973m/data=!3m1!1e3

???

I don't see any post wherein your TX-35 example was called into question.  Am I missing something?
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

michravera

Quote from: kphoger on October 11, 2019, 01:47:26 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on October 09, 2019, 05:59:08 PM

Quote from: kphoger on October 09, 2019, 02:09:52 PM

Quote from: tchafe1978 on October 04, 2019, 08:42:51 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/iwZLRyjH2XtEmuGg8

Does this count? The US 12 freeway ends at a atop sign in Wisconsin just north of the Illinois state line, but US 12 itself doesn't end.

Awesome example!

Same situation as my previous example that apparently didn't "qualify". The freeway ends, but TX-35 continues north.

https://www.google.com/maps/@28.0612132,-97.0661233,1973m/data=!3m1!1e3

???

I don't see any post wherein your TX-35 example was called into question.  Am I missing something?

Neither do I. I expect the kind of thing that I had in mind to happen a lot in Texas. Lots of cities, many of which are large. Lots of rural areas. Lots of freeways. I may be remembering this incorrectly, but I thought that the route that I took from northeast Austin out to Lake Travis started as a Freeway near IH-35 and then went through signals and then to stop signs as it got closer to the lake. I may not have this right since I only lived there for a couple of months. I would expect it to happen a lot in Florida also, but you might frequently get to quickly from the major cities to the ocean to make it as common. I would also expect this to happen more frequently in the "One City" states here in the western US. I expect that it would be fairly common in places that only build the freeway in the city and a road with stop signs suffices elsewhere. This is, in fact, what happens along much of CASR-1.

There are plenty of examples, especially in California, but I would guess the other coastal and gulf states (and those along the Mississippi) as well, where there is a freeway that interchanges with another freeway and pretty much has to end at a stop sign (or something) nearby to prevent a motorist from driving into the ocean or river. Those are not my intent.

doorknob60

This may be a bit of a stretch, but it's a more urban example. In Boise if you're driving east on I-184 (later becoming US-20/26), the freeway becomes a surface street at 13th St in downtown. You'll go through several traffic lights along Myrtle St. US-20/26 will turn off to the right on Broadway, but Myrtle continues. It crosses the West Parkcenter Bridge and becomes Parkcenter Blvd. Parkcenter continues as an arterial through several more traffic lights. It eventually hits a roundabout at Warm Springs. Continuing straight, you go through several more roundabouts, before eventually hitting a stop sign at another intersection with Warm Springs, about 6.5 miles after being on the freeway.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/43.6189638,-116.2165071/43.5712055,-116.1254265/@43.5930274,-116.1903289,13.75z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d-116.1315857!2d43.5736673!3s0x54aef7658ea3987b:0xf4be2accbc8b0a54!1m0!3e0

X99

Quote from: thspfc on October 05, 2019, 09:03:05 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on October 04, 2019, 10:30:52 PM
How is the north end of I-229 in SD?  Is that still pass under an interchange with I-90 to become a rural road still?
Yes. I think it should keep going north, but to where I don't know.
From what I've heard, I-229 was originally going to be the route of I-29, with a full cloverleaf so drivers could exit north from there on a realigned US 77. When the government realized how dumb it would be to have two differently numbered Interstates lined up with each other with no freeway connection (I-29 and I-31), they rerouted I-29 to continue north to Fargo, truncated US 77 to Sioux City, and made the old planned I-29 routing into a bypass of Sioux Falls numbered I-229. No interchange alternative was planned for the north end at I-90, so they built half of the cloverleaf interchange and ran the mainline straight into a dirt road. (This road has since been paved, but not until the late 2000s or early 2010s.)
why are there only like 5 people on this forum from south dakota

JoePCool14

Quote from: kphoger on October 09, 2019, 02:09:52 PM
Quote from: tchafe1978 on October 04, 2019, 08:42:51 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/iwZLRyjH2XtEmuGg8

Does this count? The US 12 freeway ends at a atop sign in Wisconsin just north of the Illinois state line, but US 12 itself doesn't end.

Awesome example!

I feel so stupid not remembering this one! Driven through it countless times and it never came to mind.

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sandwalk

#39
Not quite what the OP asked, but fairly close I believe.  The east end of the US-20 Bypass around Norwalk, Ohio ends at a stop sign. In order to continue on US 20 east, you must stop and turn right onto the two-lane road.  It's been this way since the bypass opened in the 1960s.  LINK: https://goo.gl/maps/J5kADDNJcmtiFTQWA

michravera

Quote from: sandwalk on October 17, 2019, 11:19:51 PM
Not quite what the OP asked, but fairly close I believe.  The east end of the US-20 Bypass around Norwalk, Ohio ends at a stop sign. In order to continue on US 20 east, you must stop and turn right onto the two-lane road.  It's been this way since the bypass opened in the 1960s.  LINK: https://goo.gl/maps/J5kADDNJcmtiFTQWA

This sounds sort of what I had in mind. I believe that what I had in mind will occur a lot where there are "through town freeways" instead of bypasses. This sort of thing is very common in coastal California (and somewhat elsewhere in California). As I said in my original post, CASR-1 (and the freeways that cross it) goes from freeway to traffic signal and back to freeway. There are even a few STOP signs. This certainly happens on CASR-58 (but it looks like CalTrans has finally got all of the STOP signs out and may be bypassing the last couple of signals), but US-395 and CASR-14?

nexus73

SR 126, which is an E/W freeway in Springfield OR, has a stop light on the eastern section, followed by a stoplight at the end where a left turn lets one continue on 126 while a right turn puts the driver on Business 126 and heading for downtown Springfield.  The eastern section of freeway 126 still is relatively rural in style compared to the close-by urban areas. 

Now let's go the other way. SR 569, the Randy Pape Beltline Highway, which is freeway for most of its length, approaches 126 in West Eugene as a 2-lane highway for the last couple miles with stoplights at an intersection along the way as well as at the end.

What would have been just a section of a completed beltway is located in South Eugene.  It is called 30th Avenue.  Seeing a bit of freeway with stoplights on the end closest to I-5 while the other end turns into a standard surface street sure is an unusual sight but given the incompleteness of freewaying in Eugene and Springfield, it is not a real surprise.

Rick
US 101 is THE backbone of the Pacific coast from Bandon OR to Willits CA.  Industry, tourism and local traffic would be gone or severely crippled without it being in functioning condition in BOTH states.



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