Lets play a game. This game is called "find the quickest route" between two destinations. The twist is that there will be restrictions on routes, states, counties, towns etc. that you cannot use in determining the quickest route between the two destinations.
First one is find the quickest route between Denver and San Diego. You may not use I-70 or I-15 to get to San Diego.
Quote from: ce929wax on October 02, 2018, 03:24:30 PM
Lets play a game. This game is called "find the quickest route" between two destinations. The twist is that there will be restrictions on routes, states, counties, towns etc. that you cannot use in determining the quickest route between the two destinations.
First one is find the quickest route between Denver and San Diego. You may not use I-70 or I-15 to get to San Diego.
American Airlines
Quote from: ce929wax on October 02, 2018, 03:24:30 PM
Lets play a game. This game is called "find the quickest route" between two destinations. The twist is that there will be restrictions on routes, states, counties, towns etc. that you cannot use in determining the quickest route between the two destinations.
First one is find the quickest route between Denver and San Diego. You may not use I-70 or I-15 to get to San Diego.
https://www.southwest.com/air/booking/select.html?int=LFCBOOKAIR&adultPassengersCount=1&departureDate=2018-10-31&departureTimeOfDay=ALL_DAY&destinationAirportCode=SAN&fare1=83.98&fare2=&fareName1=WGA&fareName2=&fareType=USD&originationAirportCode=DEN&passengerType=ADULT&promoCode=&returnAirportCode=&returnDate=&returnTimeOfDay=ALL_DAY&selectedFlight1=2018-10-31&selectedFlight2=&seniorPassengersCount=0&tripType=oneway
Either the 6:35am or 4pm!
Seriously, though... This game is inherently flawed, because who's to say how long a particular route takes? Google Maps will vary based on what time you query it. And an off-Interstate route might show fastest, but you're realistically able to speed more on the Interstate than on that route.
Quote from: ce929wax on October 02, 2018, 03:24:30 PM
First one is find the quickest route between Denver and San Diego. You may not use I-70 or I-15 to get to San Diego.
This is a trick question. What you do is
start in San Diego and use I-15 and I-70 to go to Denver. :sombrero:
I-25 to I-10 to I-8, or I-25 to I-10 to I-5.
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on October 03, 2018, 10:45:31 PM
Quote from: ce929wax on October 02, 2018, 03:24:30 PM
First one is find the quickest route between Denver and San Diego. You may not use I-70 or I-15 to get to San Diego.
This is a trick question. What you do is start in San Diego and use I-15 and I-70 to go to Denver. :sombrero:
Well played!
To play it a bit more honestly, using Google Maps and the starting points provided by the city names alone, I get 18:54 for I-8 to I-10 to I-25, including the cut off of NM-26. Taking I-8 to I-10 to I-17 to I-40 to I-25, including the AZ-347 cut-off, is a bit faster at 18:34. Taking I-8 to AZ-85 to AZ-303 to I-17 to US-160 and US-285 is a bit faster still at 17:58. Random clicks here and there suggest that this last routing is about the best you can do (except for the Forbidden Routing, which, for comparison purposes, clocks in at 16:01).
So I looked it up using the "Do not use highways" feature, which I think might be a good game to play. At 12:19 MDT today, Friday, October 5, the quickest route NOT using highways is 22:23.
Main Routes: US 85, US 285, US 160, US 550, NM 516, NM 371, US 491, NM 134, AZ 264, BIA 15, AZ 87, AZ 260, AZ 89A, AZ 89, AZ 71, US 60, AZ 72, AZ 95, US 95, CA 78 into SD Metro.
https://goo.gl/maps/B5TG9P23Af32
LA to Seattle. I-5 is banned.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 28, 2018, 11:52:19 PM
LA to Seattle. I-5 is banned.
I think you meant SD to SEA, but yes, I-5 is banned.
SD-SEA without I-5:
I-15 North
US 395 North
CA 58 West
CA 99 North
US 50 West
I-80 West
CA 37 West
US 101 North
WA 107 East
US 12 East
WA 8 East
WA 108 East
US 101 South (cardinal direction North)
WA 3 North
WA 304 East
Ferry from Bremerton to Seattle
Seattle to Butte, MT can't use I-90.
Quote from: ce929wax on December 30, 2018, 02:24:04 PM
Seattle to Butte, MT can't use I-90.
I-5, I-84, I-86, I-15
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on December 30, 2018, 02:27:34 PM
Quote from: ce929wax on December 30, 2018, 02:24:04 PM
Seattle to Butte, MT can't use I-90.
I-5, I-84, I-86, I-15
Due to the I-15/I-90 multiplex in and around Butte I would recommend MT 41 to MT 2 instead.
Phoenix to Salt Lake City.
Cannot use I-15 or US 89.
Edit: Round 2: You can use any road you want, but you cannot cross directly from Arizona to Utah.
I-17 to I-40 to US 191 to US 40 to I-80.
For round 2, simply US 60 to US 93 to I-80. US 93 has a concurrency with I-15.
Boston to NYC, both I-90 and I-95 are banned
Quote from: Ben114 on January 01, 2019, 05:16:13 PM
Boston to NYC, both I-90 and I-95 are banned
MA 9 to US 20 in Shrewsbury. US 20 to I-84 in Sturbridge. I-84 to I-684 in Brewster, NY. I-684 to I-287 in White Plains, I-287 a few miles over to I-87, to New York City.
Quote from: Ben114 on January 01, 2019, 05:16:13 PM
Boston to NYC, both I-90 and I-95 are banned
MA 2 to I-787 to I-87.
NYC to Philly. I-95 is off limits.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 02, 2019, 01:21:51 PM
NYC to Philly. I-95 is off limits.
I-287 to US 1 to I-295 to I-76.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 02, 2019, 02:48:43 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 02, 2019, 01:21:51 PM
NYC to Philly. I-95 is off limits.
I-287 to US 1 to I-295 to I-76.
Nice answer, your turn again if you wish to mix things up some more.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 02, 2019, 02:54:30 PM
Dallas to Houston without I-45.
I-35E to Hillsboro
I-35 to Waco
US-77 Business → Loop-484 → TX-6 to Hempstead
US-290 to Houston
Houston to Indianapolis without using the I-69 corridor.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 02, 2019, 03:27:28 PM
Houston to Indianapolis without using the I-69 corridor.
I-65 to I-10 to I-12 to I-10.
Vancouver to Toronto without the TCH or I-90.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 02, 2019, 04:13:47 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 02, 2019, 03:27:28 PM
Houston to Indianapolis without using the I-69 corridor.
I-65 to I-10 to I-12 to I-10.
Vancouver to Toronto without the TCH or I-90.
Reverse direction and you've got it. Which Vancouver? There's more than one FYI.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 02, 2019, 04:17:18 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 02, 2019, 04:13:47 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 02, 2019, 03:27:28 PM
Houston to Indianapolis without using the I-69 corridor.
I-65 to I-10 to I-12 to I-10.
Vancouver to Toronto without the TCH or I-90.
Reverse direction and you've got it. Which Vancouver? There's more than one FYI.
British Columbia.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 02, 2019, 04:20:18 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 02, 2019, 04:17:18 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 02, 2019, 04:13:47 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 02, 2019, 03:27:28 PM
Houston to Indianapolis without using the I-69 corridor.
I-65 to I-10 to I-12 to I-10.
Vancouver to Toronto without the TCH or I-90.
Reverse direction and you've got it. Which Vancouver? There's more than one FYI.
British Columbia.
Ok, just making sure. Got confused for a moment or two.
I-5 to I-84 W to I-80 to I-94 to ON 402 to ON 401 to ON 403 to QEW (Queen Elizabeth Way) to the Gardiner Expressway to the Don Valley Parkway.
Downtown Chicago → Downtown Milwaukee
without I-94
I-290 to I-90 to I-43 to WI-164 to WI-59 to WI-32
Quote from: ce929wax on January 02, 2019, 05:04:13 PM
I-290 to I-90 to I-43 to WI-164 to WI-59 to WI-32
Thanks for figuring that one out...couldn't fathom not hugging the lake shore of Lake Michigan.
Your move on how to get from one city to another without using a specific highway.
Quote from: ce929wax on January 02, 2019, 05:04:13 PM
I-290 to I-90 to I-43 to WI-164 to WI-59 to WI-32
At the time I type this, Google is suggesting you'd save 10 minutes off that time (or 32 miles) by taking IL-47 north through Woodstock into Wisconsin, then WI-120 and US-12 to Elkhorn.
Quote from: kphoger on January 02, 2019, 08:31:27 PM
Quote from: ce929wax on January 02, 2019, 05:04:13 PM
I-290 to I-90 to I-43 to WI-164 to WI-59 to WI-32
At the time I type this, Google is suggesting you'd save 10 minutes off that time (or 32 miles) by taking IL-47 north through Woodstock into Wisconsin, then WI-120 and US-12 to Elkhorn.
I was wondering the same thing. Not a bad time-saving route as compared to the original "˜answer' to your "˜question'.
Kansas City to Dallas, no I-35, US 69, or US 75
Quote from: ce929wax on January 03, 2019, 06:13:23 PM
Kansas City to Dallas, no I-35, US 69, or US 75
I-49, US 71, I-30.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 03, 2019, 06:15:41 PM
Quote from: ce929wax on January 03, 2019, 06:13:23 PM
Kansas City to Dallas, no I-35, US 69, or US 75
I-49, US 71, I-30.
More than an hour faster than yours, according to the Goog:
US-71 to Grandview, MO
MO-150 & SSR-D & 223rd Street to Spring Hill, KS
US-169 to Tulsa, OK
I-44 to Stroud, OK
US-377 to Whitesboro, TX
US-82 & TX-289 to Prosper, TX
Dallas North Tollway to Dallas, TX
Dallas to Nashville. No use of I-30 and I-40.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 04, 2019, 03:07:31 AM
Dallas to Nashville. No use of I-30 and I-40.
I-20, I-55, US 82, Natchez Trace Parkway, US 43, US 412, I-65.
Salt Lake City to Denver. However, all roads within the roughly rectangularish-shaped area formed by Interstates 15, 25, 70 and 80--including those interstates themselves while forming the borders of this area--are off limits.
Round 1: Find a route north of I-80.
Round 2. Find a route south of I-70.
Quote from: howlincoyote2k1 on January 04, 2019, 11:47:43 AM
Salt Lake City to Denver. However, all roads within the roughly rectangularish-shaped area formed by Interstates 15, 25, 70 and 80--including those interstates themselves while forming the borders of this area--are off limits.
Round 1: Find a route north of I-80.
Round 2. Find a route south of I-70.
Keeping it to numbered routes only, and staying off those interstates:
North of I-80: US 89, UT 106, US 89, (summer only: I-84, UT 167, UT 39, UT 16), UT 30, WY 89, US 30, US 189, WY 372, WY 28, US 287, WY 220, WY 487, US 30, WY 34, WY 312, WY 320, US 26, US 85, WY 219, US 85.
South of I-70: UT 68, US 6, UT 257, UT 21, UT 160, (summer only: UT 153), US 89, UT 62, UT 24, UT 95, US 191, US 491, CO 141, CO 145, CO 62, US 550, US 50, US 285.
I don't really see the point.
Challenge: Philly to NYC. You must stay in the blue areas here (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/upshot/election-2016-voting-precinct-maps.html#9.10/40.792/-74.022). If each side of the road is a different color, it is allowed. (Warning: NYTimes allows 5 free articles per month)
Nashville to Philadelphia. No use of I-40, I-81, I-76, nor I-95.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 04, 2019, 06:31:40 PM
Nashville to Philadelphia. No use of I-40, I-81, I-76, nor I-95.
I-65, Bluegrass Parkway, US 60, I-64, I-79, I-68, I-70, I-695, US 1.
Philadelphia to the District of Columbia (Washington). No use of I-95.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 04, 2019, 10:31:01 PM
Philadelphia to the District of Columbia (Washington). No use of I-95.
US 1, I-695, MD/DC 295.
This one's hard: Las Vegas to Reno: US 93, US 95, I-15 and I-80 are banned.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 04, 2019, 10:59:22 PM
This one's hard: Las Vegas to Reno: US 93, US 95, I-15 and I-80 are banned.
Eh, not too hard. NV 159, NV 160, NV 372, CA 178, CA 127, CA 190, CA 136, US 395.
Reno to Sacramento. No use of I-80 nor US 50.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 04, 2019, 11:31:37 PM
Reno to Sacramento. No use of I-80 nor US 50.
US 395, CA 70, CA 49, CA 20, CA 70, CA 99, I-5
Boston to Bar Harbor: I-95 and US 1 are banned.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 04, 2019, 11:43:04 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 04, 2019, 11:31:37 PM
Reno to Sacramento. No use of I-80 nor US 50.
US 395, CA 70, CA 49, CA 20, CA 70, CA 99, I-5
Boston to Bar Harbor: I-95 and US 1 are banned.
That would involve using I-93 to I-495 to MA 125 to NH 125 to NH 16 to US 202 to I-395 to US 1A to ME 3.
Martha's Vineyard to Juneau. Cannot use ferries.
Quote from: Alps on January 05, 2019, 12:19:12 AM
Martha's Vineyard to Juneau. Cannot use ferries.
Fly from MVY to BOS to SEA to JNU.
Key West to Miami. No US 1, no boats, and no planes.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on January 05, 2019, 12:31:16 AM
Key West to Miami. No US 1, no boats, and no planes.
Turn the clock back to before the Labor Day Hurricane of 1935 and you would ride the Overseas Railroad extension of the Florida East Coast Railway. Otherwise it'd be hard to fathom getting away from the Florida Keys back to the mainland without the Overseas Highway, boats, and planes.
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on January 05, 2019, 12:31:16 AM
Key West to Miami. No US 1, no boats, and no planes.
Use a helicopter.
LA to NYC: No I-10, I-15, I-40, I-70, I-80, I-81, or I-95
Mine still wasn't answered.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 05, 2019, 10:34:26 AM
Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on January 05, 2019, 12:31:16 AM
Key West to Miami. No US 1, no boats, and no planes.
Use a helicopter.
LA to NYC: No I-10, I-15, I-40, I-70, I-80, I-81, or I-95
A helicopter? Seriously?
Use I-5 to I-90 to I-94 to ON 402 to ON 401 to ON 403 to Queen Elizabeth Way (QEW) to ON 405 to I-190 to I-290 to I-90 to I-87 to I-278 to I-495 to 34th Street.
Quote from: 1 on January 05, 2019, 10:43:37 AM
Mine still wasn't answered.
I think everyone skipped it as it's hard and people want to move on.
Miami to Orlando without using SR 50, SR 408, SR 528, US 17, US 27, US 41, US 92, US 98, US 192, US 441, I-75, I-4, or the Florida's Turnpike.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 06, 2019, 08:57:49 AM
Miami to Orlando without using SR 408, SR 528, US 17, US 27, US 41, US 92, US 98, US 192, US 441, I-75, I-4, or the Florida's Turnpike.
I-95 to SR 50.
Boston to Worcester: I-90, MA 9, US 20, I-95, MA 2, and US 1 are banned.
A52-A453-M1-A42-M42-M5-A4440-A44 :bigass:.
roadgeekteen didn't specify which Boston and Worcester, so I used the ones in (good old) England, UK.
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 06, 2019, 12:16:25 PM
A52-A453-M1-A42-M42-M5-A4440-A44 :bigass:.
roadgeekteen didn't specify which Boston and Worcester, so I used the ones in (good old) England, UK.
LOL that's fine.
Amtrak or MBTA can be used between Boston and Worcester.
Boston to Worcester MA: I-90, MA 9, US 20, I-95, MA 2, and US 1 are banned.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 06, 2019, 03:58:10 PM
Boston to Worcester MA: I-90, MA 9, US 20, I-95, MA 2, and US 1 are banned.
No need to repeat yourself.
Worcester to Providence. Route 146 is banned.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 06, 2019, 04:01:31 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 06, 2019, 03:58:10 PM
Boston to Worcester MA: I-90, MA 9, US 20, I-95, MA 2, and US 1 are banned.
No need to repeat yourself.
Worcester to Providence. Route 146 is banned.
But nobody did my challenge. Most should be able to know what cities I was talking about.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 06, 2019, 04:03:01 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 06, 2019, 04:01:31 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 06, 2019, 03:58:10 PM
Boston to Worcester MA: I-90, MA 9, US 20, I-95, MA 2, and US 1 are banned.
No need to repeat yourself.
Worcester to Providence. Route 146 is banned.
But nobody did my challenge. Most should be able to know what cities I was talking about.
Don't sweat it. I used Amtrak/MBTA since it would be awkward otherwise.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 06, 2019, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 06, 2019, 04:03:01 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 06, 2019, 04:01:31 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 06, 2019, 03:58:10 PM
Boston to Worcester MA: I-90, MA 9, US 20, I-95, MA 2, and US 1 are banned.
No need to repeat yourself.
Worcester to Providence. Route 146 is banned.
But nobody did my challenge. Most should be able to know what cities I was talking about.
Don't sweat it. I used Amtrak/MBTA since it would be awkward otherwise.
Uh ok but it is possible.
I-290, I-90, I-495, I-95
New Haven to NYC without I-95 or CT 15.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 06, 2019, 04:31:17 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 06, 2019, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 06, 2019, 04:03:01 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 06, 2019, 04:01:31 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 06, 2019, 03:58:10 PM
Boston to Worcester MA: I-90, MA 9, US 20, I-95, MA 2, and US 1 are banned.
No need to repeat yourself.
Worcester to Providence. Route 146 is banned.
But nobody did my challenge. Most should be able to know what cities I was talking about.
Don't sweat it. I used Amtrak/MBTA since it would be awkward otherwise.
Uh ok but it is possible.
I-290, I-90, I-495, I-95
New Haven to NYC without I-95 or CT 15.
Just take US 1 and you're there!
NYC to Poughkeepsie without using US 9 or I-87 or US 9W or the Taconic State Parkway.
The actual solution for Boston to Worcester (as intended by Roadgeekteen) is enter I-93 from Science Park MTBA station in order to not touch US 1, then I-495 and I-290.
As for NYC to Poughkeepsie, use Hutchinson River Parkway to I-684 to NY 22 to NY 55.
Now for a tricky one: Rock Springs to Evanston (both in Wyoming) without touching any Interstate.
US 191, WY 351, US 89, US 30, WY 89, UT 30, UT 16, WY 189.
Alta, Utah to Salt Lake City. No UT 210, no flying, and no floating down rivers.
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 10, 2019, 08:08:04 AM
The actual solution for Boston to Worcester (as intended by Roadgeekteen) is enter I-93 from Science Park MTBA station in order to not touch US 1, then I-495 and I-290.
As for NYC to Poughkeepsie, use Hutchinson River Parkway to I-684 to NY 22 to NY 55.
Now for a tricky one: Rock Springs to Evanston (both in Wyoming) without touching any Interstate.
That's taking the long way sir, and IMO you can touch banned routes without using them (unless a concurrency is required), even if using mass transit. That's why I recommended using Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited (which partially runs on track owned and operated by the MBTA) between Boston's South Station and Worcester's Union Station, or using the MBTA's Framingham/Worcester Line between Boston's South Station and Worcester's Union Station.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 10, 2019, 12:05:16 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 10, 2019, 08:08:04 AM
The actual solution for Boston to Worcester (as intended by Roadgeekteen) is enter I-93 from Science Park MTBA station in order to not touch US 1, then I-495 and I-290.
As for NYC to Poughkeepsie, use Hutchinson River Parkway to I-684 to NY 22 to NY 55.
Now for a tricky one: Rock Springs to Evanston (both in Wyoming) without touching any Interstate.
That's taking the long way sir, and IMO you can touch banned routes without using them (unless a concurrency is required), even if using mass transit. That's why I recommended using Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited (which partially runs on track owned and operated by the MBTA) between Boston's South Station and Worcester's Union Station, or using the MBTA's Framingham/Worcester Line between Boston's South Station and Worcester's Union Station.
That ruins the spirit of the game though
Chicago to Detroit, I-75, I-90, I-94, and Amtrak are banned.
Boston to Worcester: I still think MA 30 most of the way would be faster than going all the way around.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 10, 2019, 12:43:59 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 10, 2019, 12:05:16 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 10, 2019, 08:08:04 AM
The actual solution for Boston to Worcester (as intended by Roadgeekteen) is enter I-93 from Science Park MTBA station in order to not touch US 1, then I-495 and I-290.
As for NYC to Poughkeepsie, use Hutchinson River Parkway to I-684 to NY 22 to NY 55.
Now for a tricky one: Rock Springs to Evanston (both in Wyoming) without touching any Interstate.
That's taking the long way sir, and IMO you can touch banned routes without using them (unless a concurrency is required), even if using mass transit. That's why I recommended using Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited (which partially runs on track owned and operated by the MBTA) between Boston's South Station and Worcester's Union Station, or using the MBTA's Framingham/Worcester Line between Boston's South Station and Worcester's Union Station.
That ruins the spirit of the game though
Chicago to Detroit, I-75, I-90, I-94, and Amtrak are banned.
So what? Did you even notice that a few of the prior answers allowed touching of, and even long/short concurrencies with, banned routes? C'mon, man!
US 41, US 20, US 12, BUS US 12, US 12
Quote from: 1 on January 10, 2019, 12:49:17 PM
Boston to Worcester: I still think MA 30 most of the way would be faster than going all the way around.
I agree with you on this one, despite not recalling having this option available.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 10, 2019, 02:14:08 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 10, 2019, 12:43:59 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 10, 2019, 12:05:16 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 10, 2019, 08:08:04 AM
The actual solution for Boston to Worcester (as intended by Roadgeekteen) is enter I-93 from Science Park MTBA station in order to not touch US 1, then I-495 and I-290.
As for NYC to Poughkeepsie, use Hutchinson River Parkway to I-684 to NY 22 to NY 55.
Now for a tricky one: Rock Springs to Evanston (both in Wyoming) without touching any Interstate.
That's taking the long way sir, and IMO you can touch banned routes without using them (unless a concurrency is required), even if using mass transit. That's why I recommended using Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited (which partially runs on track owned and operated by the MBTA) between Boston's South Station and Worcester's Union Station, or using the MBTA's Framingham/Worcester Line between Boston's South Station and Worcester's Union Station.
That ruins the spirit of the game though
Chicago to Detroit, I-75, I-90, I-94, and Amtrak are banned.
So what? Did you even notice that a few of the prior answers allowed touching of, and even long/short concurrencies with, banned routes? C'mon, man!
US 41, US 20, US 12, BUS US 12, US 12
You can cross a banned route I thought. Nobody said that this game was easy.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 10, 2019, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 10, 2019, 02:14:08 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 10, 2019, 12:43:59 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 10, 2019, 12:05:16 PM
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 10, 2019, 08:08:04 AM
The actual solution for Boston to Worcester (as intended by Roadgeekteen) is enter I-93 from Science Park MTBA station in order to not touch US 1, then I-495 and I-290.
As for NYC to Poughkeepsie, use Hutchinson River Parkway to I-684 to NY 22 to NY 55.
Now for a tricky one: Rock Springs to Evanston (both in Wyoming) without touching any Interstate.
That's taking the long way sir, and IMO you can touch banned routes without using them (unless a concurrency is required), even if using mass transit. That's why I recommended using Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited (which partially runs on track owned and operated by the MBTA) between Boston's South Station and Worcester's Union Station, or using the MBTA's Framingham/Worcester Line between Boston's South Station and Worcester's Union Station.
That ruins the spirit of the game though
Chicago to Detroit, I-75, I-90, I-94, and Amtrak are banned.
So what? Did you even notice that a few of the prior answers allowed touching of, and even long/short concurrencies with, banned routes? C'mon, man!
US 41, US 20, US 12, BUS US 12, US 12
You can cross a banned route I thought. Nobody said that this game was easy.
Yeah that's what I thought as well. True, but still.
Quote from: US 89 on January 10, 2019, 10:58:23 AM
Alta, Utah to Salt Lake City. No UT 210, no flying, and no floating down rivers.
Hike down the side of Little Cottonwood Creek.
New Orleans to LA, I-10, I-20 and amtrak are banned.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 10, 2019, 05:41:36 PM
New Orleans to LA, I-10, I-20 and amtrak are banned.
US 61 to US 51 to I-55 to I-40 to I-15 to CA 60.
LA to Boston. By automobile, can't use any numbered route ending in 0 or 5
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on January 10, 2019, 10:09:56 PM
LA to Boston. By automobile, can't use any numbered route ending in 0 or 5
That's really hard to follow, especially when trying to get into and out of the Mountain States
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 10, 2019, 11:11:49 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on January 10, 2019, 10:09:56 PM
LA to Boston. By automobile, can't use any numbered route ending in 0 or 5
That's really hard to follow, especially when trying to get into the Mountain States
Can't even use Mexico as an alternative, either.
Salt Lake City to Seattle, can't use I-5, I-15, I-80, I-82, I-84, I-90
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 11, 2019, 01:59:56 PM
Salt Lake City to Seattle, can't use I-5, I-15, I-80, I-82, I-84, I-90
US 89, UT 132, UT 125, US 6, CA 120, CA 99, CA 132, I-580, US 101, OR 107, OR 8, OR 108, US 101, OR 3, OR 160(includes a ferry)
Chicago to Memphis: No use of I-55, I-57, or I-65.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 11, 2019, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 11, 2019, 01:59:56 PM
Salt Lake City to Seattle, can’t use I-5, I-15, I-80, I-82, I-84, I-90
US 89, UT 132, UT 125, US 6, CA 120, CA 99, CA 132, I-580, US 101, OR 107, OR 8, OR 108, US 101, OR 3, OR 160(includes a ferry)
I-15 concurrency
I-80 concurrency
Also you meant "WA" everywhere you said "OR".
Quote from: US 89 on January 11, 2019, 03:12:19 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 11, 2019, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 11, 2019, 01:59:56 PM
Salt Lake City to Seattle, can't use I-5, I-15, I-80, I-82, I-84, I-90
US 89, UT 132, UT 125, US 6, CA 120, CA 99, CA 132, I-580, US 101, OR 107, OR 8, OR 108, US 101, OR 3, OR 160(includes a ferry)
I-15 concurrency
I-80 concurrency
Also you meant "WA" everywhere you said "OR".
Oops. Use UT 190, UT 113, and US 189 to get to US 89 and use I-238, I-880, and CA 92 to get to US 101.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 11, 2019, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 11, 2019, 01:59:56 PM
Salt Lake City to Seattle, can't use I-5, I-15, I-80, I-82, I-84, I-90
Chicago to Memphis: No use of I-55, I-57, or I-65.
I-190 to West Ohare Avenue to US 45 to US 52 to IL 17 to US 52 to US 45 to US 24 to US 45 to IL 9 to US 45 to US 150 to US 45 to IL 121 to IL 16 to IL 121 to US 45 to US 40 and IL 33 to US 45 to US 50 to US 45 to IL 15 to US 45 to IL 34 to US 45 to US 60 to US 62 to US 45 to TN 214 to US 45W and US 51 to US 51 to TN 184 to US 51 to TN 21 to US 51 to US 412 and TN 20 to TN 3 and TN 211 to US 51 Bypass to US 51 and TN 3 to US 51 to TN 14 to TN 1 to Madison Avenue.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 10, 2019, 12:05:16 PM
That's taking the long way sir, and IMO you can touch banned routes without using them (unless a concurrency is required), even if using mass transit. That's why I recommended using Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited (which partially runs on track owned and operated by the MBTA) between Boston's South Station and Worcester's Union Station, or using the MBTA's Framingham/Worcester Line between Boston's South Station and Worcester's Union Station.
There is a concurrency of I-93 and US 1. And I went that way because I didn't notice MA 30, as it's not that highlighted in OpenStreetMap :banghead:.
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 11, 2019, 06:13:47 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 10, 2019, 12:05:16 PM
That's taking the long way sir, and IMO you can touch banned routes without using them (unless a concurrency is required), even if using mass transit. That's why I recommended using Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited (which partially runs on track owned and operated by the MBTA) between Boston's South Station and Worcester's Union Station, or using the MBTA's Framingham/Worcester Line between Boston's South Station and Worcester's Union Station.
There is a concurrency of I-93 and US 1. And I went that way because I didn't notice MA 30, as it's not that highlighted in OpenStreetMap :banghead:.
Yeah it really isn't that noticeable until you see it in person.
Denver to Kansas City: No I-70, I-76, or I-80.
What I would do:
Colfax Ave > C-36 > US-36 > US-183 > K-9 > US-281 > US-24 > K-4 > US-40 > K-10 > I-435 > I-35
Springfield to Hartford: I-90, I-91, and US 5 are banned.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 11, 2019, 11:03:57 PM
Springfield to Hartford: I-90, I-91, and US 5 are banned.
US 20 to US 202 to US 44
Providence to NYC: I-95, US 1, and I-84 are banned.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 12, 2019, 12:25:02 AM
Providence to NYC: I-95, US 1, and I-84 are banned.
US 6 to US 44 to US 5 to CT 15 to the Hutch.
Hartford to Boston: I-90, I-91, and I-95 are banned.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 12, 2019, 11:44:00 AM
Hartford to Boston: I-90, I-91, and I-95 are banned.
I-84 to US 20
Albany to Buffalo: I-90 is banned.
Quote from: Ben114 on January 20, 2019, 07:59:36 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 20, 2019, 07:55:42 PM
Albany to Buffalo: I-90 is banned.
US 20 the entire way.
You're sure that starting with I-88 and I-86 isn't faster?
Nashville to Charlotte. I-40 is banned. (Hint: this can be done in under half an hour.)
Quote from: 1 on January 20, 2019, 08:06:05 PM
Quote from: Ben114 on January 20, 2019, 07:59:36 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 20, 2019, 07:55:42 PM
Albany to Buffalo: I-90 is banned.
US 20 the entire way.
You're sure that starting with I-88 and I-86 isn't faster?
Nashville to Charlotte. I-40 is banned. (Hint: this can be done in under half an hour.)
I'm going to think that that half an hour hint means that I should be looking at Charlotte, Tennessee so US 70 to TN 47 should work.
(EDIT: This route actually takes ~50 minutes.)
Providence, RI to Newport, RI - I-195 and RI 138 are banned.
Quote from: Ben114 on January 20, 2019, 10:25:01 PM
Providence, RI to Newport, RI - I-195 and RI 138 are banned.
First bridge over river north of I-195, Broadway, US 44, RI 103, RI 114
San Francisco to LA without the use of I-5, US 101, or CA 99.
San Francisco to LA without the use of I-5, US 101, or CA 99.
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Market St>Portola Dr>Sloat Blvd>Skyline Blvd/CA 35>Sharp Park Rd>Bradford Wy>Westport Dr>CA 1>CA 152>Main St (Watsonville)>Riverside Dr/CA 129>Chittenden Rd>San Juan Hwy>First St>Monterey St (San Juan Batista)>3rd St>The Alameda>CA 156>Union Rd>CA 25>CA 198>CA 33>Hudson Ranch Rd>Forest Rte 9N05>Cuddy Valley Rd>Frazier Mtn Park Rd>Peace Valley Rd>Gorman School Rd>Gorman Post Rd>CA 138>Three Points Rd>Pine Cyn Rd>Elizabeth Lake Rd>Palmdale Blvd>CA 14>The Old Rd>San Fernando Rd>San Fernando Blvd>Victory Pl>Burbank Blvd>3rd St>Magnolia Blvd>San Fernando Rd>Av 19>Spring St>Main St
Denver to Salt Lake City
No route ending in 0.
Since nobody figured out Nashville to Charlotte: M-79.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 12, 2019, 12:25:02 AM
Providence to NYC: I-95, US 1, and I-84 are banned.
US 6, SR 695, I-395, CT 82, CT 9, CT 80, I-91, CT 34, CT 15/Hutch Parkway
NYC to Burlington, VT. No I-87, I-84, I-91, US 7, US 9, or NY 22
Quote from: jp the roadgeek
NYC to Burlington, VT. No I-87, I-84, I-91, US 7, US 9, or NY 22
I-95 to I-395 to I-290 to I-495 to US 3 to I-93 to I-89 to I-189Changing it to I-95, CT 8, US 202, I-89, I-189
Quote from: Ben114 on January 21, 2019, 11:27:40 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek
NYC to Burlington, VT. No I-87, I-84, I-91, US 7, US 9, or NY 22
I-95 to I-395 to I-290 to I-495 to US 3 to I-93 to I-89 to I-189
Changing it to I-95, CT 8, US 202, I-89, I-189
Here's another: RFK Bridge, 278 East, Bronx River Parkway, Sprain Parkway, Taconic Parkway, NY/MA 295, MA 41, US 20, Center St, West St (to square the block in downtown Pittsfield around US 7), MA 9, MA 8, VT 9, VT 100, I-89. I-189
St Louis to Tulsa without I-44, I-55, or I-70.
Quote from: 1 on January 21, 2019, 08:31:15 AM
Since nobody figured out Nashville to Charlotte: MI 79.
Nice! Like when I went from Boston to Worcester in good old England, UK.
N.b.: changed to unified state route nomenclature :D
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 21, 2019, 05:36:59 PM
St Louis to Tulsa without I-44, I-55, or I-70.
US 50 to I-435 to I-35 to US 169
Miami to DC without I-85 or I-95.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 22, 2019, 09:13:24 PM
Miami to DC without I-85 or I-95.
US 1. But if you want limited access highways: FL Turnpike, I-75, I-40, I-81, I-66.
Cleveland to Boston without I-80, I-86/NY 17, I-90, or US 20
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on January 23, 2019, 06:22:25 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 22, 2019, 09:13:24 PM
Miami to DC without I-85 or I-95.
US 1. But if you want limited access highways: FL Turnpike, I-75, I-40, I-81, I-66.
Cleveland to Boston without I-80, I-86/NY 17, I-90, or US 20
Lake Shore Limited.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 23, 2019, 06:23:32 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on January 23, 2019, 06:22:25 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 22, 2019, 09:13:24 PM
Miami to DC without I-85 or I-95.
US 1. But if you want limited access highways: FL Turnpike, I-75, I-40, I-81, I-66.
Cleveland to Boston without I-80, I-86/NY 17, I-90, or US 20
Lake Shore Limited.
Very funny road name you got there.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 23, 2019, 06:24:19 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 23, 2019, 06:23:32 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on January 23, 2019, 06:22:25 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 22, 2019, 09:13:24 PM
Miami to DC without I-85 or I-95.
US 1. But if you want limited access highways: FL Turnpike, I-75, I-40, I-81, I-66.
Cleveland to Boston without I-80, I-86/NY 17, I-90, or US 20
Lake Shore Limited.
Very funny road name you got there.
I-76 to I-95.
Tulsa to Albuquerque, no I-44 or I-40.
Quote from: ce929wax on January 23, 2019, 09:33:57 PM
Tulsa to Albuquerque, no I-44 or I-40.
US 412, I-25
Salt Lake City to Los Angeles without I-15 or I-80.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 23, 2019, 10:34:59 PM
Quote from: ce929wax on January 23, 2019, 09:33:57 PM
Tulsa to Albuquerque, no I-44 or I-40.
US 412, I-25
Salt Lake City to Los Angeles without I-15 or I-80.
I-215, UT 67, US 89, UT 30, UT 38, UT 102, I-84, US 93, US 6, US 395, CA 14, I-5
Foxboro, MA to Atlanta. No I-95, I-85, I-81, or US 1
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on January 23, 2019, 10:59:27 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 23, 2019, 10:34:59 PM
Quote from: ce929wax on January 23, 2019, 09:33:57 PM
Tulsa to Albuquerque, no I-44 or I-40.
US 412, I-25
Salt Lake City to Los Angeles without I-15 or I-80.
I-215, UT 67, US 89, UT 30, UT 38, UT 102, I-84, US 93, US 6, US 395, CA 14, I-5
Foxboro, MA to Atlanta. No I-95, I-85, I-81, or US 1
MA 140, I-495, I-90, I-79, I-77, I-64, I-75
Charlotte to DC without I-77 or I-85
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 24, 2019, 08:35:42 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on January 23, 2019, 10:59:27 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 23, 2019, 10:34:59 PM
Quote from: ce929wax on January 23, 2019, 09:33:57 PM
Tulsa to Albuquerque, no I-44 or I-40.
US 412, I-25
Salt Lake City to Los Angeles without I-15 or I-80.
I-215, UT 67, US 89, UT 30, UT 38, UT 102, I-84, US 93, US 6, US 395, CA 14, I-5
Foxboro, MA to Atlanta. No I-95, I-85, I-81, or US 1
MA 140, I-495, I-90, I-79, I-77, I-64, I-75
Charlotte to DC without I-77 or I-85
US 74, I-74, I-95, I-395
Atlanta to Miami without I-16, I-75, or I-95.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 24, 2019, 12:39:45 PM
Atlanta to Miami without I-16, I-75, or I-95.
US 19 to its southern terminus at US 41, then US 41 to its southern terminus at US 1.
San Diego to Tucson without I-8 or I-10
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 24, 2019, 05:52:48 PM
San Diego to Tucson without I-8 or I-10
CA 94
CA 125
CA 67
CA 78
22nd Ave
Intake Blvd
US 95
Agnes Wilson Rd
Mohave Rd
AZ 95
AZ 72
US 60
Loop 101
Loop 202
AZ 87
AZ 287
AZ 79
AZ 77
El Paso to Houston without I-10 or US 90.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 24, 2019, 11:47:15 PM
I-20 to I-45
US 62 to US 180 to I-20 to I-45. I-20 doesn't reach El Paso.
And yes, I know US 62 and US 180 overlap for a long way, but US 180 overlaps I-10 (which is banned on this route) while US 62 doesn't.
On second thought, I'd use US 62 to US 180 to US 87 to US 290.
Now for another one: Moon to Mars. No spacecraft allowed. (Hint: search around Pittsburgh)
Let's not.
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on January 25, 2019, 04:26:07 AM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 24, 2019, 11:47:15 PM
I-20 to I-45
US 62 to US 180 to I-20 to I-45. I-20 doesn't reach El Paso.
And yes, I know US 62 and US 180 overlap for a long way, but US 180 overlaps I-10 (which is banned on this route) while US 62 doesn't.
On second thought, I'd use US 62 to US 180 to US 87 to US 290.
Now for another one: Moon to Mars. No spacecraft allowed. (Hint: search around Pittsburgh)
You could've also used TX state routes.
Take Brodhead Road which becomes a part of PA-18, then continue on PA-18 across the Ohio River to PA-68, then take PA-68 to Quadrant Route 3015 and you're there!
Baltimore to Atlantic City using roads without I-95 or the atlantic city expressway.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 25, 2019, 12:58:14 PM
Baltimore to Atlantic City using roads without I-95 or the atlantic city expressway.
US 40 the whole way.
Brigantine to Cape May without using the Parkway or Route 9.
Virginia Beach, VA to Cape Charles, VA without paying a toll.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 25, 2019, 01:07:36 PM
Brigantine to Cape May without using the Parkway or Route 9.
Stay between the Intracoastal Waterway and the ocean. There should only be one obvious way to do this, although most of it is not on state routes.
Quote from: 1 on January 25, 2019, 01:13:04 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on January 25, 2019, 01:07:36 PM
Brigantine to Cape May without using the Parkway or Route 9.
Stay between the Intracoastal Waterway and the ocean. There should only be one obvious way to do this, although most of it is not on state routes.
Right down the barrier islands. Starting in Brigantine: Brigantine Blvd to North Carolina Ave, then right on Atlantic. This road takes on several different names (Ocean Drive a few times), but other than for a few left turns when the road ends, you can make it down to Cape May in a straight shot.
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 25, 2019, 01:09:06 PM
Virginia Beach, VA to Cape Charles, VA without paying a toll.
US 60, I-64, I-295, I-95 (no HOT lane), MD 24, US 1, MD 222, US 40, DE 1 to the South St Georges exit, US 13.
Perth Amboy, NJ to Riverhead, NY without paying a toll.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on February 03, 2019, 11:48:13 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on January 25, 2019, 01:09:06 PM
Virginia Beach, VA to Cape Charles, VA without paying a toll.
US 60, I-64, I-295, I-95 (no HOT lane), MD 24, US 1, MD 222, US 40, DE 1 to the South St Georges exit, US 13.
Perth Amboy, NJ to Riverhead, NY without paying a toll.
Depart Market Square via Market Street, then use Goodwin Street and the Smith Street Bypass-Connector to Smith Street, then take the exit to US 9. Use the Parkway's toll-free section from US 9 to the Chestnut Street exit, then take Chestnut Street to Stuyvesant Avenue, then followed by a quick sharp right and left onto Elmwood Avenue, followed by a quick right and left onto SR 82. Continue on SR 82 until the Maple Avenue intersection, with a right onto SR 124 eastbound. Continue on Springfield Avenue until the exit for the I-78 local lanes. Exit the local lanes onto SR 24, followed by an exit onto I-287. Exit left onto I-87 (NY State Thruway) and take the exit onto NY SR 17, then continue on SR 32. Turn right onto Smith Clove Road, which becomes Mineral Springs Road, which becomes Angola Road, then take the exit onto US 9W, then exit onto Old US 9W, then take the ramp to River Road, which becomes Water Street, which becomes Leroy Place, then make a right onto Old Balmville Road, with a right back onto US 9W. Continue on US 9W until reaching Kingston, then right onto SR 32 again. Return back to US 9W, then zig-zag across Esopus Creek and continue right onto US 9W in Saugerties. Right onto SR 144, then continue back onto SR 32 again, then exit onto I-787 and exit again onto the South Mall Arterial, then make a quick sharp exit onto Swan Street, then make a right onto Washington Avenue (SR 5) followed by a quick left onto Eagle Street immediately followed by a quick right onto Pine Street, then make a quick left back onto SR 32 (Pearl Street). Make a right onto Orange Street which immediately becomes a ramp onto I-787 northbound (again), then quickly exit onto I-90's free crossing of the Hudson River, then exit back onto US 9, then circle the roundabout onto SR 9H, which joins SR 23, then turn left onto SR 82, then exit onto the Taconic State Parkway, then continue south on the Sprain Brook Parkway, then exit onto Central Park Avenue (SR 100), with a quick exit back onto I-87 (NY State Thruway). Continue onto the Major Deegan Expressway, then take Exit 3 to Exterior Street and then continue onto 135th Street, then make a left onto the Third Avenue Bridge over the Harlem River, quickly making an exit onto the Harlem River Drive, which soon changes into the FDR Drive, taking Exit 12 onto York Avenue, followed by a right onto 59th Street and an exit onto the Queensborough Bridge, which dumps you onto the Outer Roadway of the Queensborough Bridge over the East River and Roosevelt Island, which dumps you onto Queens Plaza, left exit onto Queens Boulevard (SR 25), with a right onto Van Dam Street, then a left onto Borden Avenue, which soon ramps onto I-495 which strictly becomes the LIE past Exit 19 (before which it is also known as the Queens-Midtown Expressway), finally exiting at Exit 71 onto SR 24 (Edwards Avenue), which soon becomes Nugent Drive, then circle around the roundabout onto Peconic Avenue and then make a right back onto SR 25 (Main Street).
Boston to Chicago without paying a toll or using I-95. (amtrak is also banned)
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 03, 2019, 11:37:56 PM
Boston to Chicago without paying a toll or using I-95. (amtrak is also banned)
US 20.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 03, 2019, 10:42:21 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on February 03, 2019, 11:48:13 AM
Perth Amboy, NJ to Riverhead, NY without paying a toll.
Depart Market Square via Market Street, then use Goodwin Street and the Smith Street Bypass-Connector to Smith Street, then take the exit to US 9. Use the Parkway's toll-free section from US 9 to the Chestnut Street exit, then take Chestnut Street to Stuyvesant Avenue, then followed by a quick sharp right and left onto Elmwood Avenue, followed by a quick right and left onto SR 82. Continue on SR 82 until the Maple Avenue intersection, with a right onto SR 124 eastbound. Continue on Springfield Avenue until the exit for the I-78 local lanes. Exit the local lanes onto SR 24, followed by an exit onto I-287. Exit left onto I-87 (NY State Thruway) and take the exit onto NY SR 17, then continue on SR 32. Turn right onto Smith Clove Road, which becomes Mineral Springs Road, which becomes Angola Road, then take the exit onto US 9W, then exit onto Old US 9W, then take the ramp to River Road, which becomes Water Street, which becomes Leroy Place, then make a right onto Old Balmville Road, with a right back onto US 9W. Continue on US 9W until reaching Kingston, then right onto SR 32 again. Return back to US 9W, then zig-zag across Esopus Creek and continue right onto US 9W in Saugerties. Right onto SR 144, then continue back onto SR 32 again, then exit onto I-787 and exit again onto the South Mall Arterial, then make a quick sharp exit onto Swan Street, then make a right onto Washington Avenue (SR 5) followed by a quick left onto Eagle Street immediately followed by a quick right onto Pine Street, then make a quick left back onto SR 32 (Pearl Street). Make a right onto Orange Street which immediately becomes a ramp onto I-787 northbound (again), then quickly exit onto I-90's free crossing of the Hudson River, then exit back onto US 9, then circle the roundabout onto SR 9H, which joins SR 23, then turn left onto SR 82, then exit onto the Taconic State Parkway, then continue south on the Sprain Brook Parkway, then exit onto Central Park Avenue (SR 100), with a quick exit back onto I-87 (NY State Thruway). Continue onto the Major Deegan Expressway, then take Exit 3 to Exterior Street and then continue onto 135th Street, then make a left onto the Third Avenue Bridge over the Harlem River, quickly making an exit onto the Harlem River Drive, which soon changes into the FDR Drive, taking Exit 12 onto York Avenue, followed by a right onto 59th Street and an exit onto the Queensborough Bridge, which dumps you onto the Outer Roadway of the Queensborough Bridge over the East River and Roosevelt Island, which dumps you onto Queens Plaza, left exit onto Queens Boulevard (SR 25), with a right onto Van Dam Street, then a left onto Borden Avenue, which soon ramps onto I-495 which strictly becomes the LIE past Exit 19 (before which it is also known as the Queens-Midtown Expressway), finally exiting at Exit 71 onto SR 24 (Edwards Avenue), which soon becomes Nugent Drive, then circle around the roundabout onto Peconic Avenue and then make a right back onto SR 25 (Main Street).
However the way back is much shorter, as one doesn't need to go all the way to Albany in order not to pay tolls :sombrero:.
Next one: Boston to Manchester without using Interstate, US, or state routes. (Hint: there's always good old England)
Quote from: CNGL-Leudimin on February 04, 2019, 07:12:49 AM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 03, 2019, 10:42:21 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on February 03, 2019, 11:48:13 AM
Perth Amboy, NJ to Riverhead, NY without paying a toll.
Depart Market Square via Market Street, then use Goodwin Street and the Smith Street Bypass-Connector to Smith Street, then take the exit to US 9. Use the Parkway's toll-free section from US 9 to the Chestnut Street exit, then take Chestnut Street to Stuyvesant Avenue, then followed by a quick sharp right and left onto Elmwood Avenue, followed by a quick right and left onto SR 82. Continue on SR 82 until the Maple Avenue intersection, with a right onto SR 124 eastbound. Continue on Springfield Avenue until the exit for the I-78 local lanes. Exit the local lanes onto SR 24, followed by an exit onto I-287. Exit left onto I-87 (NY State Thruway) and take the exit onto NY SR 17, then continue on SR 32. Turn right onto Smith Clove Road, which becomes Mineral Springs Road, which becomes Angola Road, then take the exit onto US 9W, then exit onto Old US 9W, then take the ramp to River Road, which becomes Water Street, which becomes Leroy Place, then make a right onto Old Balmville Road, with a right back onto US 9W. Continue on US 9W until reaching Kingston, then right onto SR 32 again. Return back to US 9W, then zig-zag across Esopus Creek and continue right onto US 9W in Saugerties. Right onto SR 144, then continue back onto SR 32 again, then exit onto I-787 and exit again onto the South Mall Arterial, then make a quick sharp exit onto Swan Street, then make a right onto Washington Avenue (SR 5) followed by a quick left onto Eagle Street immediately followed by a quick right onto Pine Street, then make a quick left back onto SR 32 (Pearl Street). Make a right onto Orange Street which immediately becomes a ramp onto I-787 northbound (again), then quickly exit onto I-90's free crossing of the Hudson River, then exit back onto US 9, then circle the roundabout onto SR 9H, which joins SR 23, then turn left onto SR 82, then exit onto the Taconic State Parkway, then continue south on the Sprain Brook Parkway, then exit onto Central Park Avenue (SR 100), with a quick exit back onto I-87 (NY State Thruway). Continue onto the Major Deegan Expressway, then take Exit 3 to Exterior Street and then continue onto 135th Street, then make a left onto the Third Avenue Bridge over the Harlem River, quickly making an exit onto the Harlem River Drive, which soon changes into the FDR Drive, taking Exit 12 onto York Avenue, followed by a right onto 59th Street and an exit onto the Queensborough Bridge, which dumps you onto the Outer Roadway of the Queensborough Bridge over the East River and Roosevelt Island, which dumps you onto Queens Plaza, left exit onto Queens Boulevard (SR 25), with a right onto Van Dam Street, then a left onto Borden Avenue, which soon ramps onto I-495 which strictly becomes the LIE past Exit 19 (before which it is also known as the Queens-Midtown Expressway), finally exiting at Exit 71 onto SR 24 (Edwards Avenue), which soon becomes Nugent Drive, then circle around the roundabout onto Peconic Avenue and then make a right back onto SR 25 (Main Street).
However the way back is much shorter, as one doesn't need to go all the way to Albany in order not to pay tolls :sombrero:.
Next one: Boston to Manchester without using Interstate, US, or state routes. (Hint: there's always good old England)
A52, A16, A52 (again), A1121, A17, A46, A616, A632, B6417, A617, A619, A623, A6, A555, A34, B5093, A6010.
Boston, MA, to Manchester, NH, without I-93, US 3, MA/NH 28, or I-95.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 04, 2019, 09:41:18 AM
Boston, MA, to Manchester, NH, without I-93, US 3, MA/NH 28, or I-95.
Mass Ave, Alewife Brook Parkway, Mystic Valley Parkway, MA 2A, Mill St, Mass Ave, MA 4, MA/NH 3A
Hartford to New London, CT without using I-95, I-395, CT 2, CT 9, CT 11, or CT 85
I-84 to I-384 to US 6 to CT 87 to W Town St to New London Turnpike to CT 32. Getting past Norwich (where CT 32 has a concurrency with CT 2) was hard.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 04, 2019, 09:41:18 AM
Boston, MA, to Manchester, NH, without I-93, US 3, MA/NH 28, or I-95.
I actually put up the Boston to Manchester without any Interstates, US or State routes challenge after spotting that pair
Springfield MA to Worcester MA without I-90, US 20, or MA 9.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 05, 2019, 09:39:57 AM
Springfield MA to Worcester MA without I-90, US 20, or MA 9.
I-290, I-395, MA 16, MA 12, MA/CT 197, CT 171, CT 190, I-91
Springfield to Albany without I-90, US 20, MA/NY 2, MA 9, or MA/NY 23
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on February 05, 2019, 09:56:46 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 05, 2019, 09:39:57 AM
Springfield MA to Worcester MA without I-90, US 20, or MA 9.
I-290, I-395, MA 16, MA 12, MA/CT 197, CT 171, CT 190, I-91
Springfield to Albany without I-90, US 20, MA/NY 2, MA 9, or MA/NY 23
I-91, MA 2A, US 5, MA 10, I-91, VT 9, VT 279, VA 67A, VA 67, NY 67, US 4, I-787.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 05, 2019, 10:43:06 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on February 05, 2019, 09:56:46 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 05, 2019, 09:39:57 AM
Springfield MA to Worcester MA without I-90, US 20, or MA 9.
I-290, I-395, MA 16, MA 12, MA/CT 197, CT 171, CT 190, I-91
Springfield to Albany without I-90, US 20, MA/NY 2, MA 9, or MA/NY 23
I-91, MA 2A, US 5, MA 10, I-91, VT 9, VT 279, VA 67A, VA 67, NY 67, US 4, I-787.
Albany to Syracuse without I-690, NY 5, NY 92, US 11, I-81, NY 173, NY 80, NY 175, US 20, I-90, NY 290, NY 690, NY 481, NY 370, NY 298, NY 635, NY 695, or NY 297.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 05, 2019, 01:17:16 PM
Albany to Syracuse without I-690, NY 5, NY 92, US 11, I-81, NY 173, NY 80, NY 175, US 20, I-90, NY 290, NY 690, NY 481, NY 370, NY 298, NY 635, NY 695, or NY 297.
OH 681 to US 33 to OH 124
Quote from: 1 on February 05, 2019, 01:25:00 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on February 05, 2019, 01:17:16 PM
Albany to Syracuse without I-690, NY 5, NY 92, US 11, I-81, NY 173, NY 80, NY 175, US 20, I-90, NY 290, NY 690, NY 481, NY 370, NY 298, NY 635, NY 695, or NY 297.
OH 681 to US 33 to OH 124
Haha I forgot about that routing, nice one. Syracuse to Rochester without I-90, I-390, I-490, NY 390, and NY 590.
Haha I forgot about that routing, nice one. Syracuse to Rochester without I-90, I-390, I-490, NY 390, and NY 590.
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I-81 to NY 481 to Fulton (1st then 4th, then 2nd Streets) to NY 3 to NY 104 to Portland Ave to North St to Chestnut St
Rochester to Buffalo
No I-90, I-490, I-190, NY 5 or 33
Quote from: Mark68 on February 05, 2019, 03:15:45 PM
Haha I forgot about that routing, nice one. Syracuse to Rochester without I-90, I-390, I-490, NY 390, and NY 590.
I-81 to NY 481 to Fulton (1st then 4th, then 2nd Streets) to NY 3 to NY 104 to Portland Ave to North St to Chestnut St
Rochester to Buffalo
No I-90, I-490, I-190, NY 5 or 33
[/quote] I-390, US 20, NY 130
Providence to boston without I-95, US 1, US 44, MA/RI 146 MA 152, MA 1A, or MA 24.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 05, 2019, 05:14:30 PM
Quote from: Mark68 on February 05, 2019, 03:15:45 PM
Haha I forgot about that routing, nice one. Syracuse to Rochester without I-90, I-390, I-490, NY 390, and NY 590.
I-81 to NY 481 to Fulton (1st then 4th, then 2nd Streets) to NY 3 to NY 104 to Portland Ave to North St to Chestnut St
Rochester to Buffalo
No I-90, I-490, I-190, NY 5 or 33
I-390, US 20, NY 130
Providence to boston without I-95, US 1, US 44, MA/RI 146 MA 152, MA 1A, or MA 24.
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RI/MA 122, MA 16
Buffalo to Baltimore. No I-81, I-83, I-90, I-99, I-390, US 11, US 15, or toll road.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on February 05, 2019, 07:29:45 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 05, 2019, 05:14:30 PM
Quote from: Mark68 on February 05, 2019, 03:15:45 PM
Haha I forgot about that routing, nice one. Syracuse to Rochester without I-90, I-390, I-490, NY 390, and NY 590.
I-81 to NY 481 to Fulton (1st then 4th, then 2nd Streets) to NY 3 to NY 104 to Portland Ave to North St to Chestnut St
Rochester to Buffalo
No I-90, I-490, I-190, NY 5 or 33
I-390, US 20, NY 130
Providence to boston without I-95, US 1, US 44, MA/RI 146 MA 152, MA 1A, or MA 24.
RI/MA 122, MA 16
Buffalo to Baltimore. No I-81, I-83, I-90, I-99, I-390, US 11, US 15, or toll road.
[/quote] MA 16 does not quite hit Boston. Need to use MA 30 or Beacon street.
Buffalo-Baltimore: US-219 -> I-68 -> I-70 -> Cooks Ln -> US-40.
How about Denver to Winter Park, CO (a drive I have taken myself) but no I-70 or any local road alongside I-70.
Hint: It's impossible to get to Winter Park without taking US-40.
Quote from: thspfc on March 30, 2019, 10:00:43 PM
How about Denver to Winter Park, CO (a drive I have taken myself) but no I-70 or any local road alongside I-70.
Hint: It's impossible to get to Winter Park without taking US-40.
I-25 to US 36 to US 34 to US 40.
(Note that the western part of US 34 is closed in the winter)
Now, how about Orlando to Winter Park, FL but no I-4 or any local road alongside I-4. Hint: It's somewhat hard, but not somewhat impossible, to get to Winter Park without taking US-17-92.
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 01:21:03 PM
Now, how about Orlando to Winter Park, FL but no I-4 or any local road alongside I-4. Hint: It's somewhat hard, but not somewhat impossible, to get to Winter Park without taking US-17-92.
The two cities border each other; there are a whole bunch of residential streets where all you have to do is cross over the city line and you're done.
Quote from: 1 on March 31, 2019, 01:58:23 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 01:21:03 PM
Now, how about Orlando to Winter Park, FL but no I-4 or any local road alongside I-4. Hint: It's somewhat hard, but not somewhat impossible, to get to Winter Park without taking US-17-92.
The two cities border each other; there are a whole bunch of residential streets where all you have to do is cross over in the city line and you're done.
He meant downtown.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on March 31, 2019, 02:00:57 PM
Quote from: 1 on March 31, 2019, 01:58:23 PM
Quote from: kevinb1994 on March 31, 2019, 01:21:03 PM
Now, how about Orlando to Winter Park, FL but no I-4 or any local road alongside I-4. Hint: It's somewhat hard, but not somewhat impossible, to get to Winter Park without taking US-17-92.
The two cities border each other; there are a whole bunch of residential streets where all you have to do is cross over in the city line and you're done.
He meant downtown.
Yeah it's more important to simply follow the signs for US-17-92 (via SR 50 if driving from the Orange Blossom Trail segment on US-441) than to get lost via the residential streets.
Quote from: Verlanka on March 31, 2019, 06:52:14 AM
Quote from: thspfc on March 30, 2019, 10:00:43 PM
How about Denver to Winter Park, CO (a drive I have taken myself) but no I-70 or any local road alongside I-70.
Hint: It's impossible to get to Winter Park without taking US-40.
I-25 to US 36 to US 34 to US 40.
(Note that the western part of US 34 is closed in the winter)
During the winter, it would be I-25 to CO 14 CO 125 to US 40 in Granby.
Atlanta to Los Angeles, can't use I-20 or I-10.
Quote from: Henry on May 09, 2019, 09:49:39 AM
Atlanta to Los Angeles, can't use I-20 or I-10.
Follow the old Bankhead Highway alignment to the old Pacific Highway alignment.
Quote from: Henry on May 09, 2019, 09:49:39 AM
Atlanta to Los Angeles, can't use I-20 or I-10.
I-75, I-24, I-40, I-15, CA/I-210, Ventura Freeway, Glendale Freeway, I-5
LA to Denver. Can't use I-15, I-25, or I-40
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on May 09, 2019, 10:34:03 AM
Quote from: Henry on May 09, 2019, 09:49:39 AM
Atlanta to Los Angeles, can't use I-20 or I-10.
I-75, I-24, I-40, I-15, CA/I-210, Ventura Freeway, Glendale Freeway, I-5
LA to Denver. Can't use I-15, I-25, or I-40
I-10, I-17, Milton Rd/AZ 89A, Historic Rte 66/US 180, US 89, US 160, US 285
Denver to Chicago. No I-70, I-76 or I-80
I think BUS-70 to CO-2 to 56th Avenue to Hudson Rd to CO-36 to US-36 to I-72 to I-55. The hardest part is getting out of the Denver area to the east w/o I-70 or I-76.
Continuing with the stop and start from the same place theme . . .
Chicago to Cairo, IL without I-57, IL-1, IL-37, or US-51.
Quote from: thspfc on May 09, 2019, 05:13:25 PM
Chicago to Cairo, IL without I-57, IL-1, IL-37, or US-51.
I-55 to MO 77 to US 60/62.
Cario, IL to Springfield, MO without I-57 or US 60.
Let's play Uno.
Blue 7
Quote from: kphoger on May 10, 2019, 01:45:41 PM
Let's play Uno.
Blue 7
Yellow 7
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/K-7.svg)
Quote from: 1 on May 10, 2019, 02:58:40 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 10, 2019, 01:45:41 PM
Let's play Uno.
Blue 7
Yellow 7
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/K-7.svg)
Green 7
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ee/California_7.svg/67px-California_7.svg.png)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/California_9.svg/230px-California_9.svg.png)
Draw 4
I call red
Quote from: thspfc on May 10, 2019, 04:52:51 PM
Draw 4
I call red
Except there's no image there. If you can find a road sign with a hand-drawn 4, then that would work.
Another option is to use an older deck that says "+4", although I can't think of any road signs that would have it. HOV 4+ (if any exist) comes close, though.
Quote from: Verlanka on May 10, 2019, 09:24:47 AM
Quote from: thspfc on May 09, 2019, 05:13:25 PM
Chicago to Cairo, IL without I-57, IL-1, IL-37, or US-51.
I-55 to MO 77 to US 60/62.
Cario, IL to Springfield, MO without I-57 or US 60.
IL 3, I-255/I-270, I-44.
Springfield, MO to Springfield, IL, but don't include I-44 or I-55.
Quote from: 1 on May 10, 2019, 04:56:38 PM
Quote from: thspfc on May 10, 2019, 04:52:51 PM
Draw 4
I call red
Except there's no image there. If you can find a road sign with a hand-drawn 4, then that would work.
Another option is to use an older deck that says "+4", although I can't think of any road signs that would have it. HOV 4+ (if any exist) comes close, though.
(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/GEH0WY/sign-warning-drivers-to-be-aware-of-wild-animals-crossing-roadsouth-GEH0WY.jpg)
?
Quote from: 1 on May 10, 2019, 02:58:40 PM
Quote from: kphoger on May 10, 2019, 01:45:41 PM
Let's play Uno.
Blue 7
Yellow 7
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/K-7.svg)
Did kphoger provide an image?
Boston to Montreal without I-95, I-93, I-91, I-89, I-90, I-87, US 201, or the Trans Canadian Highway