Suggestion of features exclusively for "Like the forum way, way too much" users:
- Post count increases by 2 for every post made.
- Ability to see deleted posts.
- Your signature allows up to 1000 characters instead of 300.
- You can see when a user is replying to you and what they're typing in real time.
- Ability to edit theard titles for 1 hour instead to 5 minutes.
- Ability to change username.
- No ads.
- Special "Likes the forum way, way too much" subforum.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Post count increases by 2 for every post made.
This defeats the purpose of a post count. And you took it from me in a joke post.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Ability to see deleted posts.
This is moderator only for a reason. Also my idea.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Your signature allows up to 1000 characters instead of 300.
One of the less bad ideas. But also from my post.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
You can see when a user is replying to you and what they're typing in real time.
Forum software doesn't allow this. Again, from my post (but the last one in the list to do so).
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Ability to edit theard [sic] titles for 1 hour instead to 5 minutes.
You can do this already with no time limit. Even years later.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Ability to change username.
One of the less bad ideas.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
No ads.
You're saying that most of us will have ads
added? No thanks. Will also encourage a post count rush, which is detrimental to the forum.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Special "Likes the forum way, way too much" subforum.
This is effectively r/lounge, which is known for being useless.
Quote from: 1 on February 21, 2023, 09:45:41 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Post count increases by 2 for every post made.
This defeats the purpose of a post count. And you took it from me in a joke post.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Ability to see deleted posts.
This is moderator only for a reason. Also my idea.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Your signature allows up to 1000 characters instead of 300.
One of the less bad ideas. But also from my post.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
You can see when a user is replying to you and what they're typing in real time.
Forum software doesn't allow this. Again, from my post (but the last one in the list to do so).
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Ability to edit theard [sic] titles for 1 hour instead to 5 minutes.
You can do this already with no time limit. Even years later.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Ability to change username.
One of the less bad ideas.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
No ads.
You're saying that most of us will have ads added? No thanks. Will also encourage a post count rush, which is detrimental to the forum.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Special "Likes the forum way, way too much" subforum.
This is effectively r/lounge, which is known for being useless.
Hihii :-D
And the feature that could be added is option to show post count as license plate, with user with 23,976 posts has license plate like AW-999.
Post counts again? I have a suggestion, remove the post counts or make them not visible to normal users.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 21, 2023, 10:10:31 AM
Post counts again? I have a suggestion, remove the post counts or make them not visible to normal users.
I think they're useful below the 500 mark. It tells you whether someone's new or not.
I guess a special lounge would be kinda cool. But I really don't support any of those, for the reasons that 1 gave.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 21, 2023, 10:10:31 AM
Post counts again? I have a suggestion, remove the post counts or make them not visible to normal users.
As a bit of a stats nerd I cannot support this move. But most users understand that Post Counts don't really matter that much in terms of determining whether a user contributes actual useful content on this forum.
Most of these suggestions are useless, or impossible using SMF software.
But I do like the idea of allowing for more characters in the signature for seasoned users. They're more likely to know how to use those characters in tasteful ways (clinched highways, for example) as opposed to adding multiple unnecessary photos.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on February 21, 2023, 10:16:51 AM
Most of these suggestions are useless, or impossible using SMF software.
But I do like the idea of allowing for more characters in the signature for seasoned users. They're more likely to know how to use those characters in tasteful ways (clinched highways, for example) as opposed to adding multiple unnecessary photos.
Don't think that post counts are the best way to determine seasoned users. Or else MMM will be considered a seasoned user by the end of this year.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 10:17:52 AM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on February 21, 2023, 10:16:51 AM
Most of these suggestions are useless, or impossible using SMF software.
But I do like the idea of allowing for more characters in the signature for seasoned users. They're more likely to know how to use those characters in tasteful ways (clinched highways, for example) as opposed to adding multiple unnecessary photos.
Don't think that post counts are the best way to determine seasoned users. Or else MMM will be considered a seasoned user by the end of this year.
The way I see post counts is that they're just one tool among several to determine the quality of a user. They're not the only metric, but post counts do help.
And who cares if MMM gets to the Likes the Forum? If he or anyone else were to abuse the signature feature, a mod/admin can simply override it.
Quote from: 1 on February 21, 2023, 10:14:33 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 21, 2023, 10:10:31 AM
Post counts again? I have a suggestion, remove the post counts or make them not visible to normal users.
I think they're useful below the 500 mark. It tells you whether someone's new or not.
Although some users who have been here for a while and don't post much have a low post count while not being new.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 10:15:08 AM
I guess a special lounge would be kinda cool. But I really don't support any of those, for the reasons that 1 gave.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 21, 2023, 10:10:31 AM
Post counts again? I have a suggestion, remove the post counts or make them not visible to normal users.
As a bit of a stats nerd I cannot support this move. But most users understand that Post Counts don't really matter that much in terms of determining whether a user contributes actual useful content on this forum.
The problem way too many stat nerds have made a big deal over post counts.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 21, 2023, 10:54:34 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 10:15:08 AM
I guess a special lounge would be kinda cool. But I really don't support any of those, for the reasons that 1 gave.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 21, 2023, 10:10:31 AM
Post counts again? I have a suggestion, remove the post counts or make them not visible to normal users.
As a bit of a stats nerd I cannot support this move. But most users understand that Post Counts don't really matter that much in terms of determining whether a user contributes actual useful content on this forum.
The problem way too many stat nerds have made a big deal over post counts.
It's only a few users honestly. Almost all users don't bring it up. In fact we wouldn't be complaining about this until Mr. Souky randomly brought them up again.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 11:01:57 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 21, 2023, 10:54:34 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 10:15:08 AM
I guess a special lounge would be kinda cool. But I really don't support any of those, for the reasons that 1 gave.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 21, 2023, 10:10:31 AM
Post counts again? I have a suggestion, remove the post counts or make them not visible to normal users.
As a bit of a stats nerd I cannot support this move. But most users understand that Post Counts don't really matter that much in terms of determining whether a user contributes actual useful content on this forum.
The problem way too many stat nerds have made a big deal over post counts.
It's only a few users honestly. Almost all users don't bring it up. In fact we wouldn't be complaining about this until Mr. Souky randomly brought them up again.
Only took a few to ruin something that was just a background feature of the forum.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 21, 2023, 11:03:47 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 11:01:57 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 21, 2023, 10:54:34 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 10:15:08 AM
I guess a special lounge would be kinda cool. But I really don't support any of those, for the reasons that 1 gave.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 21, 2023, 10:10:31 AM
Post counts again? I have a suggestion, remove the post counts or make them not visible to normal users.
As a bit of a stats nerd I cannot support this move. But most users understand that Post Counts don't really matter that much in terms of determining whether a user contributes actual useful content on this forum.
The problem way too many stat nerds have made a big deal over post counts.
It's only a few users honestly. Almost all users don't bring it up. In fact we wouldn't be complaining about this until Mr. Souky randomly brought them up again.
Only took a few to ruin something that was just a background feature of the forum.
I've found that it's still a background feature. Most don't bring it up much, and before this thread I can't remember when's the last time we've talked about post counts.
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 21, 2023, 11:20:30 AM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Suggestion of features exclusively for "Like the forum way, way too much" users:
- Post count increases by 2 for every post made.
- Ability to see deleted posts.
- Your signature allows up to 1000 characters instead of 300.
- You can see when a user is replying to you and what they're typing in real time.
- Ability to edit theard titles for 1 hour instead to 5 minutes.
- Ability to change username.
- No ads.
- Special "Likes the forum way, way too much" subforum.
I've never seen any ads on here?? Isn't alot of these suggestions basically turning the forum into a chat room instead of a forum?
Registered users don't get ads, only guests.
Not all turnpikes are toll roads.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 21, 2023, 11:03:47 AM
Only took a few to ruin something that was just a background feature of the forum.
I'm still not sure how merely talking about post counts ruins the concept altogether. Does it have to be this unspoken yet out in the open concept? I'm not saying everyone should be making a big deal of their posts or spamming just to get "more", but who cares if they do talk about it here or there?
Quote from: JoePCool14 on February 21, 2023, 12:25:04 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 21, 2023, 11:03:47 AM
Only took a few to ruin something that was just a background feature of the forum.
I'm still not sure how merely talking about post counts ruins the concept altogether. Does it have to be this unspoken yet out in the open concept? I'm not saying everyone should be making a big deal of their posts or spamming just to get "more", but who cares if they do talk about it here or there?
There are a few users that make a big deal of their post count and seem to really try to inflate it, both past and present (but mostly past, I haven't seen the topic being brought up recently). Personally I think that those users should be dealt with individually instead of just getting rid of post counts in general. Don't let a few bad apples spoil the bunch.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 10:21:33 AM
Quote from: 1 on February 21, 2023, 10:14:33 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 21, 2023, 10:10:31 AM
Post counts again? I have a suggestion, remove the post counts or make them not visible to normal users.
I think they're useful below the 500 mark. It tells you whether someone's new or not.
Although some users who have been here for a while and don't post much have a low post count while not being new.
Perhaps list the join date instead of post count? The ranks would still serve as a proxy for posts and it would stop things like "I want my post count to be 4444 so I'm going to delete old posts as I make new ones".
Quote from: vdeane on February 21, 2023, 12:52:23 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 10:21:33 AM
Quote from: 1 on February 21, 2023, 10:14:33 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on February 21, 2023, 10:10:31 AM
Post counts again? I have a suggestion, remove the post counts or make them not visible to normal users.
I think they're useful below the 500 mark. It tells you whether someone's new or not.
Although some users who have been here for a while and don't post much have a low post count while not being new.
Perhaps list the join date instead of post count? The ranks would still serve as a proxy for posts and it would stop things like "I want my post count to be 4444 so I'm going to delete old posts as I make new ones".
Your join date is already listed when you click on your profile. That user that did that has become a useful contributor to the forum and has seemed to have matured past that phase, thankfully.
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 21, 2023, 12:54:42 PM
That would be pretty hilarious if users started obsessing over their post counts. My only issue is I don't like my tag being named after a reference to toll roads.
It would be pretty annoying if users started doing that
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 10:15:08 AM
I guess a special lounge would be kinda cool.
We already have the chat room. That's a pretty fun place to hang out in.
Quote from: CoreySamson on February 21, 2023, 02:39:08 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 10:15:08 AM
I guess a special lounge would be kinda cool.
We already have the chat room. That's a pretty fun place to hang out in.
I'm de facto banned from it, though (without an actual ban).
EDIT: To clarify: I was in it at first, but some users (especially Alps) became increasingly hostile, so I left. I tried joining again one or two years ago. I got a hostile response from Alps within ten seconds basically telling me to get out. It's clear that I'm not welcome in the chat.
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 21, 2023, 11:30:34 AM
And while we're on the subject what exactly is the breakdown for all the categories, such as parking lot, major arterial, freeway..etc? I know I became an expressway at 1000 and a Turnpike at 1500, but what are the others?
I don't know the full breakdown offhand but it's been posted many times...
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=32036.msg2763210#msg2763210
Quote from: 1 on February 21, 2023, 02:44:11 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on February 21, 2023, 02:39:08 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 10:15:08 AM
I guess a special lounge would be kinda cool.
We already have the chat room. That's a pretty fun place to hang out in.
I'm de facto banned from it, though (without an actual ban).
I got banned from the forum proper for a month for messing around in the chat back in 2017.
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 21, 2023, 01:10:52 PM
Yeah, I'm imagining users like deleting/merging multiple posts to adjust their number or something, lots of interesting folks on the internet.
Haven't you done that yourself?
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 02:55:32 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 21, 2023, 02:44:11 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on February 21, 2023, 02:39:08 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 10:15:08 AM
I guess a special lounge would be kinda cool.
We already have the chat room. That's a pretty fun place to hang out in.
I'm de facto banned from it, though (without an actual ban).
I got banned from the forum proper for a month for messing around in the chat back in 2017.
Seriously? I thought you just get banned from the chat for however long but you remain on the forum. Was it repeated or egregious messing around?
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 21, 2023, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 02:55:32 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 21, 2023, 02:44:11 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on February 21, 2023, 02:39:08 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 10:15:08 AM
I guess a special lounge would be kinda cool.
We already have the chat room. That's a pretty fun place to hang out in.
I'm de facto banned from it, though (without an actual ban).
I got banned from the forum proper for a month for messing around in the chat back in 2017.
Seriously? I thought you just get banned from the chat for however long but you remain on the forum. Was it repeated or egregious messing around?
I honestly don't remember. I was being a troll though, annoying the other users. I deserved it.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 03:38:45 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 21, 2023, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 02:55:32 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 21, 2023, 02:44:11 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on February 21, 2023, 02:39:08 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 10:15:08 AM
I guess a special lounge would be kinda cool.
We already have the chat room. That's a pretty fun place to hang out in.
I'm de facto banned from it, though (without an actual ban).
I got banned from the forum proper for a month for messing around in the chat back in 2017.
Seriously? I thought you just get banned from the chat for however long but you remain on the forum. Was it repeated or egregious messing around?
I honestly don't remember. I was being a troll though, annoying the other users. I deserved it.
Gotcha. I was kicked from the chat for about a minute after I got into an insult match with another user last year that I didn't realize was a joke, and went too far. After that, I decided to stay off the chat permanently, as it causes me to say things impulsively that I would not have had I had the chance to think it through, like a normal forum post.
On an unrelated subject: I'm curious about this, but not enough to start a new topic. Who provides overnight moderation to the forum? If a random user decided to start spamming and violating the rules like crazy at some late night time, like 4:30-5am EST when I'd say most of us are asleep, would it just stay there until the first mod/admin sees it in the morning? I don't know if mods remain on the forum when the majority of users are not online at night.
Quote from: kirbykart on February 21, 2023, 03:32:34 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 21, 2023, 01:10:52 PM
Yeah, I'm imagining users like deleting/merging multiple posts to adjust their number or something, lots of interesting folks on the internet.
Haven't you done that yourself?
That was different.
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 21, 2023, 03:59:50 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 03:38:45 PM
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 21, 2023, 03:35:55 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 02:55:32 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 21, 2023, 02:44:11 PM
Quote from: CoreySamson on February 21, 2023, 02:39:08 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 10:15:08 AM
I guess a special lounge would be kinda cool.
We already have the chat room. That's a pretty fun place to hang out in.
I'm de facto banned from it, though (without an actual ban).
I got banned from the forum proper for a month for messing around in the chat back in 2017.
Seriously? I thought you just get banned from the chat for however long but you remain on the forum. Was it repeated or egregious messing around?
I honestly don't remember. I was being a troll though, annoying the other users. I deserved it.
Gotcha. I was kicked from the chat for about a minute after I got into an insult match with another user last year that I didn't realize was a joke, and went too far. After that, I decided to stay off the chat permanently, as it causes me to say things impulsively that I would not have had I had the chance to think it through, like a normal forum post.
On an unrelated subject: I'm curious about this, but not enough to start a new topic. Who provides overnight moderation to the forum? If a random user decided to start spamming and violating the rules like crazy at some late night time, like 4:30-5am EST when I'd say most of us are asleep, would it just stay there until the first mod/admin sees it in the morning? I don't know if mods remain on the forum when the majority of users are not online at night.
Scott is often on the forum late at night I find.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 04:04:03 PM
Scott is often on the forum late at night I find.
Yes, Scott's household has had such strange work schedules for enough years, that he's likely to be online when the rest of us are asleep.
The forum is moderated whenever the mods are online. If they're offline, then yes, stuff will get left until someone logs on and steps in that pile.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: vdeane on February 21, 2023, 12:52:23 PM
Perhaps list the join date instead of post count? The ranks would still serve as a proxy for posts and it would stop things like "I want my post count to be 4444 so I'm going to delete old posts as I make new ones".
Your join date is already listed when you click on your profile. That user that did that has become a useful contributor to the forum and has seemed to have matured past that phase, thankfully.
I was envisioning having it to the left of every post, just like post count and last login is now.
As for gaming post counts, in addition to the user you mention, MMM also had a brief foray into that activity.
Quote from: vdeane on February 21, 2023, 07:58:39 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: vdeane on February 21, 2023, 12:52:23 PM
Perhaps list the join date instead of post count? The ranks would still serve as a proxy for posts and it would stop things like "I want my post count to be 4444 so I'm going to delete old posts as I make new ones".
Your join date is already listed when you click on your profile. That user that did that has become a useful contributor to the forum and has seemed to have matured past that phase, thankfully.
I was envisioning having it to the left of every post, just like post count and last login is now.
As for gaming post counts, in addition to the user you mention, MMM also had a brief foray into that activity.
Punish the user, not everyone else.
The only thing I've seen that makes a difference in post quality is time. 2000 crappy posts in a year is easily achievable, but 2000 crappy posts over 5 or 10 years is much less likely.
Ergo, I propose moving away from post count visibility and ranks based on it, and moving to a badge system that simply shows how many years we've been on the forum. You could still see if a user is new, but there would not be any encouragement of post-spamming to boost your post count.
Quote from: kphoger on February 21, 2023, 04:34:40 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 04:04:03 PM
Scott is often on the forum late at night I find.
Yes, Scott's household has had such strange work schedules for enough years, that he's likely to be online when the rest of us are asleep.
Yep, my active hours are roughly 15:00 to 06:00 Central Time. This coincides with the busiest period (evening), so it works well for the sake of the forum. (I imagine if I relocate to Las Vegas my schedule will become even screwier, since I believe there is more accommodation for people who work odd shifts there owing to how many people there are who work a casino schedule.)
Now as for the original post in this thread:
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Suggestion of features exclusively for "Like the forum way, way too much" users:
- Post count increases by 2 for every post made.
- You can see when a user is replying to you and what they're typing in real time.
These are not available options in the software. If you'd like us to consider them, please write the code for them in PHP as an SMF extension and we will consider adding them at that time. (And if you can't be bothered to write the code, neither can we.) Also, I don't see what the point of the first one would be.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Ability to see deleted posts.
This is a bad idea because posts are deleted for a good reason. Letting people see deleted posts would defeat the purpose of deleting them. (If you want this feature, join 4chan.)
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Ability to change username.
This is a bad idea because frequent name changes make it hard to keep track of who is who. (If you want this feature, join Tumblr.)
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Your signature allows up to 1000 characters instead of 300.
This is a bad idea because it would mean pages would often end up being more signature than post.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
No ads.
This is a bad idea because it would mean Alex wouldn't be able to afford to host the forum anymore. (If you want this feature, install AdBlockPlus.)
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Special "Likes the forum way, way too much" subforum.
This is a bad idea because the discussions in there wouldn't be any different than anywhere else on the forum, so it would be pointless to implement. (If you want this feature, join a country club.)
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Ability to edit theard titles for 1 hour instead to 5 minutes.
You can already do this as far as I know.
Also, I still like the idea of the forum displaying your answer to the "lowest route number you haven't been on" game instead of your post count. But I don't like it enough to overcome my laziness and write the PHP for it.
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 21, 2023, 08:32:27 PM
Also, I still like the idea of the forum displaying your answer to the "lowest route number you haven't been on" game instead of your post count. But I don't like it enough to overcome my laziness and write the PHP for it.
Ugh. I'm never getting off 451...
Quote from: jakeroot on February 21, 2023, 08:10:48 PM
The only thing I've seen that makes a difference in post quality is time. 2000 crappy posts in a year is easily achievable, but 2000 crappy posts over 5 or 10 years is much less likely.
Ergo, I propose moving away from post count visibility and ranks based on it, and moving to a badge system that simply shows how many years we've been on the forum. You could still see if a user is new, but there would not be any encouragement of post-spamming to boost your post count.
Here is a very quick concept:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52703543621_e1e40b2f68_o.png)
AARoads Year-Based Badges concept (https://flic.kr/p/2oiermz) by Jacob Root (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62537709@N03/), on Flickr
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 21, 2023, 08:32:27 PM
Also, I still like the idea of the forum displaying your answer to the "lowest route number you haven't been on" game instead of your post count. But I don't like it enough to overcome my laziness and write the PHP for it.
People could just lie to make themselves look better.
Also for spamming, I believe that the badges are a bigger problem than the actual number. Most other forums I'm on have some sort of post count feature, and I've never heard of it being an issue. But I still like the badges though and would want them to stay.
Quote from: interstatefan990 on February 21, 2023, 03:59:50 PM
On an unrelated subject: I'm curious about this, but not enough to start a new topic. Who provides overnight moderation to the forum? If a random user decided to start spamming and violating the rules like crazy at some late night time, like 4:30-5am EST when I'd say most of us are asleep, would it just stay there until the first mod/admin sees it in the morning? I don't know if mods remain on the forum when the majority of users are not online at night.
We've been having that discussion on another thread somewhere.
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 21, 2023, 08:14:39 PM
Now as for the original post in this thread:
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Suggestion of features exclusively for "Like the forum way, way too much" users:
- Post count increases by 2 for every post made.
- You can see when a user is replying to you and what they're typing in real time.
These are not available options in the software. If you'd like us to consider them, please write the code for them in PHP as an SMF extension and we will consider adding them at that time. (And if you can't be bothered to write the code, neither can we.) Also, I don't see what the point of the first one would be.
I guess it's the same logic as having a shot from beyond 22 feet count for an extra point in basketball.
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 21, 2023, 08:17:10 PM
I may have deleted a few posts here or there, but I never did that for no reason or just to set my post count at a round number or anything???
Since you're new and probably don't know this, you might as well know: I did this once, and that's what people are referring to. I went on a binge and deleted several hundred posts or more to reset my post count to 4 4's. I had my reasons at the time, but it was a very immature and attention-grabbing thing to do, and it led to an increased focus on forum stats and a whole bunch of discussion about stats and post counts, which ultimately cost all users viewership privileges of the forum stats page (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=stats). I was fuming for months, and it took me
years to fully get over it, but I learned a valuable lesson about how to comport myself and interact with others online.
So, a bit painful to share, but there's some background as to why "stats" and "post counts" are such a hot-button issue on this forum.
Quote from: webny99 on February 21, 2023, 09:41:20 PM
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 21, 2023, 08:17:10 PM
I may have deleted a few posts here or there, but I never did that for no reason or just to set my post count at a round number or anything???
Since you're new and probably don't know this, you might as well know: I did this once, and that's what people are referring to. I went on a binge and deleted several hundred posts or more to reset my post count to 4 4's. I had my reasons at the time, but it was a very immature and attention-grabbing thing to do, and it led to an increased focus on forum stats and a whole bunch of discussion about stats and post counts, which ultimately cost all users viewership privileges of the forum stats page (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=stats). I was fuming for months, and it took me years to fully get over it, but I learned a valuable lesson about how to comport myself and interact with others online.
So, a bit painful to share, but there's some background as to why "stats" and "post counts" are such a hot-button issue on this forum.
I want the forum stats page back! It's a cool thing to look at that doesn't hurt anyone.
i want a palindrome of posts. this is 15348. i want 99999.
^^ 3 away from 15351.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 21, 2023, 09:08:13 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 21, 2023, 08:32:27 PM
Also, I still like the idea of the forum displaying your answer to the "lowest route number you haven't been on" game instead of your post count. But I don't like it enough to overcome my laziness and write the PHP for it.
People could just lie to make themselves look better.
And then we would make fun of them for being lame.
I can't think offhand of a time when I ever deleted an old post, but I have deleted a small handful of freshly-posted new ones when I have posted something and quickly realized, "oops, that was wrong," and a simple post edit wouldn't fix the error.
I almost never delete posts. Very rarely if I post something and it's stupid and I realize it quickly I delete it. Deleting old posts would just be confusing to other people reading topics.
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 21, 2023, 08:14:39 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 21, 2023, 09:35:05 AM
Ability to edit theard titles for 1 hour instead to 5 minutes.
You can already do this as far as I know.
Does the software have an option to disallow deleting one's own posts after a set amount of time?
I've deleted a post when someone beat me to saying the same thing, or sometimes even if they post after me but they explain it better than I do.
I'll also sometimes delete controversial posts (usually involving politics) after about 5-10 minutes of thinking.
When Scott5114 says "posts are deleted for good reasons," I don't think he was referring to users deleting their own posts but rather to moderators deleting posts. I've only deleted a very few of my posts over the years, usually when I thought better of something after saying it, but the moderators have deleted a number of them (or removed the text and replaced it with purple text) either because the post in question was part of a string of deleted posts or because they judged something I said to have violated the TOS (for example, in the "Weird Routes" thread I called the now-banned original poster "weird"; if you know the thread's origin, you'll understand why the moderators objected to that).
(Edited because the thread is called "Weird Routes," not "Weird Roads.")
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 21, 2023, 08:17:10 PM
I may have deleted a few posts here or there, but I never did that for no reason or just to set my post count at a round number or anything???
I seem to recall you once saying you were going to keep your post count at 1000. Perhaps someone else remembers where this was and can quote it?
I fiddled with the idea but didn't go through with it.
AARoads Discord
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 22, 2023, 12:59:19 PM
AARoads Discord
Discussion here:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=21139.0
It's from 2017, so opinions might have changed since then. I wouldn't be that opposed to one, even though I was strongly against it before. My main concern is that I'm on exactly one other forum that also has a Discord server associated with it, and people who aren't on that Discord miss some actual forum-topic-related news going on because it never makes it to the forum proper, so the same might happen here.
Quote from: vdeane on February 22, 2023, 12:56:36 PM
I seem to recall you once saying you were going to keep your post count at 1000. Perhaps someone else remembers where this was and can quote it?
Here you go. Appropriately enough, MultiDozenMiler appears to have deleted the first of these.
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Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on December 03, 2022, 10:52:02 PM
No, I just started running out of new ideas. I wasn't gonna start spamming just to get to 1000 posts. Posting my plans visually really helped to condense my ideas into concise posts. My MMM thread is still going strong, and I did vote to unlock here if you're interested.
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on December 05, 2022, 10:53:31 PM
Don't worry, when I get to 1000, you know with my numbering OCD I'll make sure it will stay exactly at 1000. Maybe I-ll go back and delete some low level "I agree" or "fair enough" replies to cancel out my new posts. Or I could delete a post and copy and paste the content back into one of my previous posts near it..etc. Or is any of that against the forum rules?
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on December 06, 2022, 08:40:57 AM
Quote from: Scott5114 on December 05, 2022, 11:22:32 PM
I would agree to revert it to 997. Or 1002. Or 58.
There used to be a guy here who was overly particular about his post count ending on a round number when he signed off for the night. I used to add 1 to his post count at 3 am just to fuck with him.
I guess I'll take 1002. Although 997 is also nice as it's the largest 3 digit prime number...
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 22, 2023, 12:47:03 PM
I almost never delete posts. Very rarely if I post something and it's stupid and I realize it quickly I delete it. Deleting old posts would just be confusing to other people reading topics.
I've never deleted a post. I'd rather edit something new into its place or at least substantially change what I said.
Quote from: 1 on February 22, 2023, 01:01:33 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 22, 2023, 12:59:19 PM
AARoads Discord
Discussion here:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=21139.0
It's from 2017, so opinions might have changed since then. I wouldn't be that opposed to one, even though I was strongly against it before. My main concern is that I'm on exactly one other forum that also has a Discord server associated with it, and people who aren't on that Discord miss some actual forum-topic-related news going on because it never makes it to the forum proper, so the same might happen here.
I remember the 2017 server. It was very quiet, and I didn't stay on it for very long. That being said...
I think an AARoads Discord server in 2023 wouldn't be the worst idea. It might be more accessible to new users (for better or for worse, I suppose. But maybe the Discord server and the classic forum could cater to different audiences.) And Discord has become a lot more feature rich than it was in 2017. Lots of automations and bots and even a "forum within Discord" (NOT that I would want this website to be abandoned). Roles could be assigned based on various stats or regions and states. It could be a better place for casual banter that doesn't necessarily justify an entire thread.
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 21, 2023, 08:32:27 PM
Also, I still like the idea of the forum displaying your answer to the "lowest route number you haven't been on" game instead of your post count. But I don't like it enough to overcome my laziness and write the PHP for it.
I'd still be at 1. :paranoid:
Quote from: JoePCool14 on February 22, 2023, 03:35:14 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 21, 2023, 08:32:27 PM
Also, I still like the idea of the forum displaying your answer to the "lowest route number you haven't been on" game instead of your post count. But I don't like it enough to overcome my laziness and write the PHP for it.
I'd still be at 1. :paranoid:
Illinois 1 ends in Chicago. Could probably knock it out this weekend.
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on February 22, 2023, 03:37:29 PM
Illinois 1 ends in Chicago. Could probably knock it out this weekend.
This is true, but as I've mentioned before, I value my life and belongings too much to simply start at US-12/20 and drive south. IL-1 travels through some of the rougher neighborhoods and suburbs in Chicagoland, and I have little interest in dealing with that right now. I also live further north, so just the process of getting down to the south suburbs is a haul both ways.
Basically clinching anything on the southern reaches of Chicagoland is just incredibly unappealing to me. That's why IL-1 continues to sit without mileage.
When I do eventually record some mileage on IL-1, I'll still be missing 4, 5, and 8 when it comes to single digits.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on February 22, 2023, 03:34:14 PM
Quote from: 1 on February 22, 2023, 01:01:33 PM
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 22, 2023, 12:59:19 PM
AARoads Discord
Discussion here:
https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=21139.0
It's from 2017, so opinions might have changed since then. I wouldn't be that opposed to one, even though I was strongly against it before. My main concern is that I'm on exactly one other forum that also has a Discord server associated with it, and people who aren't on that Discord miss some actual forum-topic-related news going on because it never makes it to the forum proper, so the same might happen here.
I remember the 2017 server. It was very quiet, and I didn't stay on it for very long. That being said...
I think an AARoads Discord server in 2023 wouldn't be the worst idea. It might be more accessible to new users (for better or for worse, I suppose. But maybe the Discord server and the classic forum could cater to different audiences.) And Discord has become a lot more feature rich than it was in 2017. Lots of automations and bots and even a "forum within Discord" (NOT that I would want this website to be abandoned). Roles could be assigned based on various stats or regions and states. It could be a better place for casual banter that doesn't necessarily justify an entire thread.
Honestly, as somebody who's been using Discord for a few years, even with the added features, I think the existing model is fine until it becomes financially unsustainable. With Discord, you run into issues with people being able to reply faster, which can cause some hairy moments with a certain owl and a certain millionaire Long Islander. Plus, not sure if you guys are opposed to this, but you can report messages directly to Discord... meaning somebody outside of the forum staff would have moderation abilities for really nasty stuff.
I really don't see what it would add over the existing format besides being more efficient to argue about things on. I've also known of at least one website which outright replaced its forum with a Discord server (will not state exactly which out of shame), and it was even marketed as a downgrade in itself.
I feel like these old school forums are superior for conveying a bunch of really deep and intricate information... no character limits, you can quote people easier and the quotes nest in each other so you can follow easier, and because the forum software is relatively old, you can pull it up on an extremely old computer. I love Discord; most of the people I buy furry art from are people I initially met in Discord servers, I just really don't think its what we need for this forum. It might be the first nail in the coffin for the old school format we've come to know and love.
Yeah, these forums work well for this kind of hobby. A discord server would be nice, but it would mostly replace the chat, not the forum itself.
I view Discord as the modern-day replacement for IRC, not forums like this. They are for totally different use cases (Discord is for transient here-today-gone-tomorrow type discussions. Forums are better for longer form discussions that may be useful to have an archive of).
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 25, 2023, 06:27:13 AM
I view Discord as the modern-day replacement for IRC, not forums like this. They are for totally different use cases (Discord is for transient here-today-gone-tomorrow type discussions. Forums are better for longer form discussions that may be useful to have an archive of).
I agree. What I meant is that I wouldn't mind having the option for more casual discussion that doesn't justify formal posts.
I will always stand by that an independent forum is way better than using Discord or even Reddit.
Quote from: JoePCool14 on February 25, 2023, 01:19:49 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 25, 2023, 06:27:13 AM
I view Discord as the modern-day replacement for IRC, not forums like this. They are for totally different use cases (Discord is for transient here-today-gone-tomorrow type discussions. Forums are better for longer form discussions that may be useful to have an archive of).
I agree. What I meant is that I wouldn't mind having the option for more casual discussion that doesn't justify formal posts.
I will always stand by that an independent forum is way better than using Discord or even Reddit.
AARoads Reddit
I'm definitely opposed to an AARoads Reddit. IRC and Discord are chatrooms. Reddit is a forum, and it would displace this. I also have an irrational fear of being downvoted.
Quote from: Poiponen13 on February 25, 2023, 01:21:29 PM
Quote from: JoePCool14 on February 25, 2023, 01:19:49 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on February 25, 2023, 06:27:13 AM
I view Discord as the modern-day replacement for IRC, not forums like this. They are for totally different use cases (Discord is for transient here-today-gone-tomorrow type discussions. Forums are better for longer form discussions that may be useful to have an archive of).
I agree. What I meant is that I wouldn't mind having the option for more casual discussion that doesn't justify formal posts.
I will always stand by that an independent forum is way better than using Discord or even Reddit.
AARoads Reddit
No thanks. r/roadguyrob exists though which is cool.
I never got into the real-time chat thing. I logged on to the old IRC roadgeek chat a couple of times but no one was in the room at the time. I've never done the chat here. I read the forum at my own convenience and usually have other things to do than hang out in online chatrooms.
As far as other road forums go, they can coexist. A Reddit page (or board or thread or whatever they're called) could function alongside this forum the same way that the various Yahoo groups did with MTR years ago. They're complementary, not competitive.
Quote from: MultiMillionMiler on February 25, 2023, 09:17:42 PM
I'm not sure what that chat is, but I think I am banned from it. I may have used it once or twice but a message saying "User or IP is banned" has came up since then.
Yes, I can confirm you were indeed banned from chat. You didn't endear yourself to the chat regulars and got the boot.
I am not really chatty, so I don't enter the chat room as inactivity there is grounds for banishment.