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Re: Unpopular Anything Road-Related Opinions
« Reply #500 on: May 15, 2021, 10:05:52 AM »

Interstates should be able to have Service Plazas and be tolled.

Interstate standards should either be relaxed slightly or we should de interstate tons of roads.

At least locally in California things like soft interior and narrow shoulders is a primary driver of why certain freeways donít meet Interstate standards. 
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Re: Unpopular Anything Road-Related Opinions
« Reply #501 on: May 15, 2021, 10:27:18 AM »

Bring back button copy signs.
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Re: Unpopular Anything Road-Related Opinions
« Reply #502 on: May 16, 2021, 07:15:30 PM »

Road Atlases are almost obsolete now with google and GPS.

Bring back button copy signs.
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Re: Unpopular Anything Road-Related Opinions
« Reply #503 on: May 16, 2021, 07:56:41 PM »

Road Atlases are almost obsolete now with google and GPS.

It's a lot easier to check a route when you're driving alone with an atlas open to the correct page on the passenger seat than it is fishing your phone out of your pocket, unlocking it, hoping some stupid BS notification doesn't pop up, scrolling around and trying to zoom in with one hand on the wheel, etc.

Bring back button copy signs.
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Most of my nostalgia for the button copy era is not so much because of the button copy itself (OkDOT used button copy and reflective sheeting at the same time, which is as bad as it sounds) but because back then OkDOT signage was actually good.


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Re: Unpopular Anything Road-Related Opinions
« Reply #504 on: May 16, 2021, 08:26:39 PM »

The atlas can be useful for seeing the big picture, but it's useless for finding specific businesses/hotels/addresses.

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Re: Unpopular Anything Road-Related Opinions
« Reply #505 on: May 16, 2021, 08:29:18 PM »

That's not what you use it for.
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« Reply #506 on: May 16, 2021, 08:55:21 PM »

That's not what you use it for.
Most people barely look at the map. They just plug in their destination to the GPS and go.

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Re: Unpopular Anything Road-Related Opinions
« Reply #507 on: May 16, 2021, 09:37:21 PM »

The atlas can be useful for seeing the big picture, but it's useless for finding specific businesses/hotels/addresses.

The point was that, when you reach the city where you're looking for an address, places such as gas stations and welcome centers would have city street maps with an index, which is what you would use to find a specific street.

Also, most major establishments actually gave directions for how to reach them from major routes. And if you were visiting a friend's house or something like that, you would ask them for directions.

Most people barely look at the map. They just plug in their destination to the GPS and go.

I understand that you're just a kid, but if you believe that there are no problems with that method (compared to before GPS), then you may be part of the problem.
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« Reply #508 on: May 16, 2021, 09:39:42 PM »

The atlas can be useful for seeing the big picture, but it's useless for finding specific businesses/hotels/addresses.

The point was that, when you reach the city where you're looking for an address, places such as gas stations and welcome centers would have city street maps with an index, which is what you would use to find a specific street.

Also, most major establishments actually gave directions for how to reach them from major routes. And if you were visiting a friend's house or something like that, you would ask them for directions.

Most people barely look at the map. They just plug in their destination to the GPS and go.

I understand that you're just a kid, but if you believe that there are no problems with that method (compared to before GPS), then you may be part of the problem.
I do remember seeing brochures for establishments with directions from nearby major cities.

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Re: Unpopular Anything Road-Related Opinions
« Reply #509 on: May 18, 2021, 03:58:02 PM »

The atlas can be useful for seeing the big picture, but it's useless for finding specific businesses/hotels/addresses.

Agreed.  Neither one is useless.
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Re: Unpopular Anything Road-Related Opinions
« Reply #510 on: May 18, 2021, 04:01:45 PM »

A lot of midwest states have too many freeway or near freeway roads for the population they serve.
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« Reply #511 on: May 18, 2021, 04:33:57 PM »

A lot of midwest states have too many freeway or near freeway roads for the population they serve.
Youngstown Ohio being an example.

The atlas can be useful for seeing the big picture, but it's useless for finding specific businesses/hotels/addresses.

Agreed.  Neither one is useless.
What is useless?

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Re: Unpopular Anything Road-Related Opinions
« Reply #512 on: May 18, 2021, 04:57:05 PM »

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« Reply #513 on: May 18, 2021, 05:02:26 PM »

What is useless?

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No, relating to the atlas. As in:
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Agreed.  Neither one is useless.

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Re: Unpopular Anything Road-Related Opinions
« Reply #514 on: May 19, 2021, 12:22:18 PM »

Road Atlases are almost obsolete now with google and GPS.

The atlas can be useful for seeing the big picture, but it's useless for finding specific businesses/hotels/addresses.

Neither one is useless.

What is useless?

Huh?

I wasn't saying anything was useless.  I was saying that both atlases and Google/GPS are useful.
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« Reply #515 on: May 19, 2021, 12:27:27 PM »

Road Atlases are almost obsolete now with google and GPS.

The atlas can be useful for seeing the big picture, but it's useless for finding specific businesses/hotels/addresses.

Neither one is useless.

What is useless?

Huh?

I wasn't saying anything was useless.  I was saying that both atlases and Google/GPS are useful.
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Re: Unpopular Anything Road-Related Opinions
« Reply #516 on: June 12, 2021, 12:46:25 PM »

Hereís one typed while Iím on northbound I-26 in NC, I mean WB, right now.

Like US routes, Interstates should be allowed to have a N-S cardinal direction signed for an even number route, or vice versa, in a state if itís clearly aligned that way. This includes I-26 in NC and TN, I-95 in CT, I-94 in IL, and probably some others Iím forgetting.
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« Reply #517 on: June 12, 2021, 05:18:34 PM »

Hereís one typed while Iím on northbound I-26 in NC, I mean WB, right now.

Like US routes, Interstates should be allowed to have a N-S cardinal direction signed for an even number route, or vice versa, in a state if itís clearly aligned that way. This includes I-26 in NC and TN, I-95 in CT, I-94 in IL, and probably some others Iím forgetting.
Part of I-69 in Michigan is signed east-west I think.

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Re: Unpopular Anything Road-Related Opinions
« Reply #518 on: June 12, 2021, 06:19:35 PM »

Hereís one typed while Iím on northbound I-26 in NC, I mean WB, right now.

Like US routes, Interstates should be allowed to have a N-S cardinal direction signed for an even number route, or vice versa, in a state if itís clearly aligned that way. This includes I-26 in NC and TN, I-95 in CT, I-94 in IL, and probably some others Iím forgetting.

No, I think that's a terrible idea. After a while, you just get used to understanding which way is which. I live North of Chicago, and we've all become accustomed to east corresponding to inbound, west as corresponding to outbound (or to Milwaukee).
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Re: Unpopular Anything Road-Related Opinions
« Reply #519 on: June 12, 2021, 09:34:40 PM »

Hereís one typed while Iím on northbound I-26 in NC, I mean WB, right now.

Like US routes, Interstates should be allowed to have a N-S cardinal direction signed for an even number route, or vice versa, in a state if itís clearly aligned that way. This includes I-26 in NC and TN, I-95 in CT, I-94 in IL, and probably some others Iím forgetting.

No, I think that's a terrible idea. After a while, you just get used to understanding which way is which. I live North of Chicago, and we've all become accustomed to east corresponding to inbound, west as corresponding to outbound (or to Milwaukee).
Given that the reason I've heard as to why I-41 has that pointless overlap with I-94 is so WI can sign an interstate with a north-south banner on that corridor, it might not be as bad an idea as one would think.  While we don't want things to swap willy-nilly with seemingly every curve, there are places where an interstate spends large amounts of time oriented perpendicular to its signed directions - sometimes through entire states (such as the already mentioned I-26 in NC and TN, or I-95 in CT).
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