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Can we restrict roundabout discussions?

Started by Molandfreak, April 14, 2023, 03:24:55 PM

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Molandfreak

Seriously, people ranting about how much they hate roundabouts just derails good discussions. This isn't your soapbox, nor is it the place to post your conspiracy theories that DOTs are purposely wasting money on them.

Discussions like these are no better than the Daylight Savings Time discussions that got banned. They go absolutely nowhere. If you want to post about how much you hate roundabouts, the "unpopular road-related opinions"  thread is the place to do it. Nowhere else.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PM
AASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.


kphoger

Quote from: Molandfreak on April 14, 2023, 03:24:55 PM
If you want to post about how much you hate roundabouts, the "unpopular road-related opinions"  thread is the place to do it. Nowhere else.

But it's a popular opinion.  Arguably, it's more popular than liking them.
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Molandfreak

Quote from: kphoger on April 14, 2023, 03:32:23 PM
Quote from: Molandfreak on April 14, 2023, 03:24:55 PM
If you want to post about how much you hate roundabouts, the "unpopular road-related opinions"  thread is the place to do it. Nowhere else.

But it's a popular opinion.  Arguably, it's more popular than liking them.
Which is exactly the problem. I see enough people complaining about them elsewhere on the internet and I'm just sick of it. State detail threads shouldn't be getting overrun with uncompromising people ranting about traffic control changes that tangentially relate to the actual discussion.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PM
AASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.

kalvado

any specific thread you have in mind? I don't see too much recent discussions like you describe

kphoger

OK, then, only if we also restrict people complaining about North Carolina's fondness for Interstate designations, Robert Moses, the I-69 trident in Texas, Breezewood, the use of small towns and general regions as control cities, Bud Shuster, the NMSL, and Colorado's refusal to sign concurrent US Routes along Interstate corridors.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
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Male pronouns, please.

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Molandfreak

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PM
AASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.

JayhawkCO

Quote from: kphoger on April 14, 2023, 03:46:24 PM
OK, then, only if we also restrict people complaining about North Carolina's fondness for Interstate designations, Robert Moses, the I-69 trident in Texas, Breezewood, the use of small towns and general regions as control cities, Bud Shuster, the NMSL, and Colorado's refusal to sign concurrent US Routes along Interstate corridors.

I love all of those things! Except Robert Moses. He was a dick.

jeffandnicole

Maybe other than one person being extremely opinionated about a roundabout in that discussion, being that the roundabout idea is a DOT proposal, it seems extremely on-topic for that thread at that point in time.

Max Rockatansky

How can you restrict this particular soapbox though?  Even if you did, what other soapboxes would need restricting?  Do we stop people next from complaining about I-238 and I-99?

kphoger

Quote from: kphoger on April 14, 2023, 03:46:24 PM
OK, then, only if we also restrict people complaining about North Carolina's fondness for Interstate designations, Robert Moses, the I-69 trident in Texas, Breezewood, the use of small towns and general regions as control cities, Bud Shuster, the NMSL, and Colorado's refusal to sign concurrent US Routes along Interstate corridors.

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on April 14, 2023, 05:31:52 PM
How can you restrict this particular soapbox though?  Even if you did, what other soapboxes would need restricting?  Do we stop people next from complaining about I-238 and I-99?

Already suggested.   :-P
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Male pronouns, please.

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kphoger

Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

roadman65

This is AARoads where most people aren't happy with the system. Heck we got members here who won't patronize a business in Breezewood, PA because the Turnpike and I-70 don't directly connect.


You're not going to stop complaining among users.   Look at MMM, it took over a month to get him to stop only cause he got the boot.
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Molandfreak

Quote from: roadman65 on April 14, 2023, 06:40:18 PM
This is AARoads where most people aren't happy with the system. Heck we got members here who won't patronize a business in Breezewood, PA because the Turnpike and I-70 don't directly connect.


You're not going to stop complaining among users.   Look at MMM, it took over a month to get him to stop only cause he got the boot.
I'll never understand the duality here. I've never seen a positive interaction with this user, yet nobody is complaining as loudly as they did about MMM. At least MMM was funny at times, this guy is just a consistent stick in the mud.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PM
AASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.

hotdogPi

Alternative thread title: "Can we restrict discussions that don't make an obvious point but rather do it subtly?"
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TheHighwayMan3561

Quote from: LilianaUwU on April 14, 2023, 07:00:32 PM
What's wrong with that song?

"Roundabout" by Yes

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LilianaUwU

Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on April 14, 2023, 07:26:28 PM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on April 14, 2023, 07:00:32 PM
What's wrong with that song?

"Roundabout" by Yes

You are officially my favorite person in the world.
*insert a joke about ZA WARUDO being used to lock the thread in the near future*
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hbelkins

Quote from: Molandfreak on April 14, 2023, 03:24:55 PM
Seriously, people ranting about how much they hate roundabouts just derails good discussions. This isn't your soapbox, nor is it the place to post your conspiracy theories that DOTs are purposely wasting money on them.

Discussions like these are no better than the Daylight Savings Time discussions that got banned. They go absolutely nowhere. If you want to post about how much you hate roundabouts, the "unpopular road-related opinions"  thread is the place to do it. Nowhere else.

I prefer "popular road-related opinions" because roundabouts are that bad.


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LilianaUwU

Quote from: hbelkins on April 14, 2023, 08:02:16 PM
I prefer "popular road-related opinions" because roundabouts are that bad.
I gotta agree with you there. Then again, I'm biased against roundabouts because I've experienced the single most inappropriate use of them (at the northern end of QC 199).
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—Mr. Thwomp

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Scott5114

If it's not related to the original topic at hand and it goes on for a bit, we can split it off to its own thread. It is clearly a topic within the forum's remit, though, so we're probably not going to wholesale restrict discussion on the topic.

If anything, control city or renumbering discussions derail threads worse.
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kalvado

Now we need to make this a roundabout bashing thread. Just like with Limon thread.

GaryV


kalvado

Quote from: GaryV on April 15, 2023, 07:21:21 AM
Limon has roundabouts?
I-70 - US-287 - BL-70 interchange in Limon is a diamond. It should become the first roundabout on the interstate mainline!

kphoger

Quote from: kphoger on April 14, 2023, 03:32:23 PM

Quote from: Molandfreak on April 14, 2023, 03:24:55 PM
If you want to post about how much you hate roundabouts, the "unpopular road-related opinions"  thread is the place to do it. Nowhere else.

But it's a popular opinion.  Arguably, it's more popular than liking them.

Quote from: hbelkins on April 14, 2023, 08:02:16 PM
I prefer "popular road-related opinions" because roundabouts are that bad.

I personally love roundabouts.  But I totally agree that hating them is a popular road-related opinion.
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. DickIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.



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