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New Cape Cod Canal bridges

Started by Pete from Boston, June 27, 2019, 09:26:33 AM

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bob7374

MassDOT is attempting again to get grant moneys to help pay for at least 1 of the Cape Cod Canal bridge replacements:
https://www.mass.gov/news/federal-funding-application-filed-for-sagamore-bridge-replacement


Pete from Boston

Quote from: bob7374 on December 11, 2023, 11:23:19 AM
MassDOT is attempting again to get grant moneys to help pay for at least 1 of the Cape Cod Canal bridge replacements:
https://www.mass.gov/news/federal-funding-application-filed-for-sagamore-bridge-replacement
Interesting that they are considering replacing one of them before the other. I would think there would be economies of scale in bidding both together but that's just speculation.

Ted$8roadFan

Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 13, 2023, 06:10:56 AM
Quote from: bob7374 on December 11, 2023, 11:23:19 AM
MassDOT is attempting again to get grant moneys to help pay for at least 1 of the Cape Cod Canal bridge replacements:
https://www.mass.gov/news/federal-funding-application-filed-for-sagamore-bridge-replacement
Interesting that they are considering replacing one of them before the other. I would think there would be economies of scale in bidding both together but that's just speculation.

Replacing both bridges at the same time would seem to make sense, but I think the state's reasoning is twofold: first, one bridge will need to remain open to handle the inevitable delays that will result from construction; also, the Sagamore Bridge should be replaced first, since it handles traffic coming directly from Boston. Either way, I don't envy anyone who lives and works on the Cape.

RobbieL2415

Quote from: Ted$8roadFan on December 13, 2023, 07:28:46 AM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on December 13, 2023, 06:10:56 AM
Quote from: bob7374 on December 11, 2023, 11:23:19 AM
MassDOT is attempting again to get grant moneys to help pay for at least 1 of the Cape Cod Canal bridge replacements:
https://www.mass.gov/news/federal-funding-application-filed-for-sagamore-bridge-replacement
Interesting that they are considering replacing one of them before the other. I would think there would be economies of scale in bidding both together but that's just speculation.

Replacing both bridges at the same time would seem to make sense, but I think the state's reasoning is twofold: first, one bridge will need to remain open to handle the inevitable delays that will result from construction; also, the Sagamore Bridge should be replaced first, since it handles traffic coming directly from Boston. Either way, I don't envy anyone who lives and works on the Cape.
Might also be wise to consider running the MBTA CapeFlyer service full time during construction, as opposed to just the summer.

bob7374


froggie

Since the ACoE actually owns the bridges, I feel like the Feds should be chipping in a bit more to begin with.  But Congress doesn't seem to have much of an appetite for funding actual Federal roads, as evidenced by the insane backlog of NPS maintenance projects...

Plutonic Panda


bob7374

The Sagamore Bridge replacement project has received $371,870,542 in grant moneys as part of the National Infrastructure Assistance (Mega) Program:
https://www.transportation.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/2024-01/MEGA%20Fact%20Sheets%20FY%202023-2024_Final.pdf

pderocco

Is that expected to pay for the whole project? Somehow, that seems like a down payment.

And then there's Bourne...

RobbieL2415

Quote from: pderocco on January 26, 2024, 02:04:41 AM
Is that expected to pay for the whole project? Somehow, that seems like a down payment.

And then there's Bourne...
I'd imagine the Bourne Bridge will cost more due to its different approach lengths.

froggie

One could make a case that Sagamore is the higher need.

That $371M is a "down payment" in a project that will run 10-digits, but it's a significant step.



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