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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #950 on: April 10, 2018, 11:06:39 PM »

Is Chicago going to have an expressway named after Obama? I would think it would be a given since they name their expressways after politicians.
Well Rod Blagojevich was removed from the tollway signs.

I-490 is open for Obama
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #951 on: April 11, 2018, 07:16:23 AM »

Is Chicago going to have an expressway named after Obama? I would think it would be a given since they name their expressways after politicians.
Well Rod Blagojevich was removed from the tollway signs.

I-490 is open for Obama

They already put signs up for him on I-55 between Pontiac and the Tri-State.  Regardless of what you think of the man, I really don't like naming things after living people.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #952 on: April 11, 2018, 08:37:21 AM »


They already put signs up for him on I-55 between Pontiac and the Tri-State.  Regardless of what you think of the man, I really don't like naming things after living people.

Personally, I don't like naming things after politicians in general.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #953 on: April 11, 2018, 09:17:35 AM »

Is Chicago going to have an expressway named after Obama? I would think it would be a given since they name their expressways after politicians.
The I-57 "west leg of the Dan Ryan" has been mentioned as a candidate since it is the only one where a name wouldn't need to be removed. I suppose the I-80 "Moline Expressway" west of the Kingery could also be a candidate.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #954 on: April 11, 2018, 09:28:59 AM »

Until then:
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #955 on: April 11, 2018, 12:08:50 PM »

Is Chicago going to have an expressway named after Obama? I would think it would be a given since they name their expressways after politicians.
Well Rod Blagojevich was removed from the tollway signs.

I-490 is open for Obama
His name was removed becasue he was no longer Governor and I assumed Gov Quinn did not want his name to be on the signs.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #956 on: April 11, 2018, 12:44:28 PM »

Is Chicago going to have an expressway named after Obama? I would think it would be a given since they name their expressways after politicians.
Well Rod Blagojevich was removed from the tollway signs.

I-490 is open for Obama
His name was removed becasue he was no longer Governor and I assumed Gov Quinn did not want his name to be on the signs.

I assumed the signs were Blago patting himself on the back because he was Governor while ORT was completed.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #957 on: April 11, 2018, 12:50:33 PM »

Is Chicago going to have an expressway named after Obama? I would think it would be a given since they name their expressways after politicians.
Well Rod Blagojevich was removed from the tollway signs.

I-490 is open for Obama
His name was removed becasue he was no longer Governor and I assumed Gov Quinn did not want his name to be on the signs.

I assumed the signs were Blago patting himself on the back because he was Governor while ORT was completed.
That and getting the I-355 South Extension built.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #958 on: April 16, 2018, 12:57:34 PM »

Why was the Chinatown Feeder never connected to Wacker Drive? I saw it proposed on some maps, and it does seem like a no brainer, but it's always confused me why it was never built.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #959 on: April 16, 2018, 08:19:46 PM »

Why was the Chinatown Feeder never connected to Wacker Drive? I saw it proposed on some maps, and it does seem like a no brainer, but it's always confused me why it was never built.

I think it was a victim of the anti-freeway wave of the 1970's.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #960 on: April 16, 2018, 10:18:55 PM »

The below link highlights some Chicago Area projects slated for this construction season. Among others, some notable highlights include:

- Continued Work on the Jane Burne (Circle) Interchange
- Completion of Cumberland Flyover and Additional Lane EB I-90 (Kennedy Expressway) between River Rd and Harlem Ave
- I-88 Rebuilding/Widening between York Rd and I-290
- Edens Spur (I-94) Reconstruction
- I-355 Repaving between Army Trail and I-55
- Milburn Bypass (US 45)
- Longmeadow Parkway Construction

http://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180416/construction-season-is-here-x2014-our-guide-to-surviving-it
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #961 on: April 17, 2018, 12:42:25 AM »

The below link highlights some Chicago Area projects slated for this construction season. Among others, some notable highlights include:

- Continued Work on the Jane Burne (Circle) Interchange
- Completion of Cumberland Flyover and Additional Lane EB I-90 (Kennedy Expressway) between River Rd and Harlem Ave
- I-88 Rebuilding/Widening between York Rd and I-290
- Edens Spur (I-94) Reconstruction
- I-355 Repaving between Army Trail and I-55
- Milburn Bypass (US 45)
- Longmeadow Parkway Construction

http://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180416/construction-season-is-here-x2014-our-guide-to-surviving-it
longmeadow parkway what are the toll rules I-pass one rate and pay on line higher? the same 7 days to pay?
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #962 on: April 17, 2018, 12:45:01 AM »

The below link highlights some Chicago Area projects slated for this construction season. Among others, some notable highlights include:

- Continued Work on the Jane Burne (Circle) Interchange
- Completion of Cumberland Flyover and Additional Lane EB I-90 (Kennedy Expressway) between River Rd and Harlem Ave
- I-88 Rebuilding/Widening between York Rd and I-290
- Edens Spur (I-94) Reconstruction
- I-355 Repaving between Army Trail and I-55
- Milburn Bypass (US 45)
- Longmeadow Parkway Construction

http://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180416/construction-season-is-here-x2014-our-guide-to-surviving-it
missing from that list is the golf circle / suicide Circle / Cumberland Circle rebuild.
http://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180330/cumberland-circle-reconstruction-in-des-plaines-beginning-soon
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #963 on: April 17, 2018, 01:41:30 AM »

Why was the Chinatown Feeder never connected to Wacker Drive? I saw it proposed on some maps, and it does seem like a no brainer, but it's always confused me why it was never built.

There is this project, which first phase is going to construction. To alleviate congestion for vehicles exiting the Dan Ryan at Cermak, they can continue north to Roosevelt when the connector is built.
 
https://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/cdot/supp_info/WellsWentworthConnector.html
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #964 on: April 17, 2018, 08:46:00 AM »

The below link highlights some Chicago Area projects slated for this construction season. Among others, some notable highlights include:

- Continued Work on the Jane Burne (Circle) Interchange
- Completion of Cumberland Flyover and Additional Lane EB I-90 (Kennedy Expressway) between River Rd and Harlem Ave
- I-88 Rebuilding/Widening between York Rd and I-290
- Edens Spur (I-94) Reconstruction
- I-355 Repaving between Army Trail and I-55
- Milburn Bypass (US 45)
- Longmeadow Parkway Construction

http://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180416/construction-season-is-here-x2014-our-guide-to-surviving-it
missing from that list is the golf circle / suicide Circle / Cumberland Circle rebuild.
http://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180330/cumberland-circle-reconstruction-in-des-plaines-beginning-soon

It's not too bad so far as long as you do your homework and know what routes to take. I still need to use it daily, but have shortened the commute to where I avoid the nasty backups during the AM/PM rushes
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #965 on: April 17, 2018, 09:45:22 AM »

The below link highlights some Chicago Area projects slated for this construction season. Among others, some notable highlights include:

- Continued Work on the Jane Burne (Circle) Interchange
- Completion of Cumberland Flyover and Additional Lane EB I-90 (Kennedy Expressway) between River Rd and Harlem Ave
- I-88 Rebuilding/Widening between York Rd and I-290
- Edens Spur (I-94) Reconstruction
- I-355 Repaving between Army Trail and I-55
- Milburn Bypass (US 45)
- Longmeadow Parkway Construction

http://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180416/construction-season-is-here-x2014-our-guide-to-surviving-it
missing from that list is the golf circle / suicide Circle / Cumberland Circle rebuild.
http://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180330/cumberland-circle-reconstruction-in-des-plaines-beginning-soon

It's not too bad so far as long as you do your homework and know what routes to take. I still need to use it daily, but have shortened the commute to where I avoid the nasty backups during the AM/PM rushes

I was going to say that I-294 could be a good alternate for some of this...but isn't the central section of I-294 about to undergo some reconstruction too?  Perhaps it isn't slated for this year, but for other years in the near future.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #966 on: April 17, 2018, 02:47:57 PM »

I-290 to I-355 can bypass that at the cost of time.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #967 on: April 17, 2018, 05:38:13 PM »

I-290 to I-355 can bypass that at the cost of time.
I-355 has road work and I-290 to I-90 sucks + I-290 to I-294 both ways is really BAD!!
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #968 on: April 17, 2018, 10:16:06 PM »

The below link highlights some Chicago Area projects slated for this construction season. Among others, some notable highlights include:

- Continued Work on the Jane Burne (Circle) Interchange
- Completion of Cumberland Flyover and Additional Lane EB I-90 (Kennedy Expressway) between River Rd and Harlem Ave
- I-88 Rebuilding/Widening between York Rd and I-290
- Edens Spur (I-94) Reconstruction
- I-355 Repaving between Army Trail and I-55
- Milburn Bypass (US 45)
- Longmeadow Parkway Construction

http://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180416/construction-season-is-here-x2014-our-guide-to-surviving-it
missing from that list is the golf circle / suicide Circle / Cumberland Circle rebuild.
http://www.dailyherald.com/news/20180330/cumberland-circle-reconstruction-in-des-plaines-beginning-soon

Yes, and that is a much needed one. I'm curious how that will flow when it's finished.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #969 on: April 18, 2018, 12:30:07 AM »

355 again with resurfacing!?? Didn't they do that back in like 2009? They shouldn't have done asphalt.

checked the Tollway site, looks like they will replace lighting too. I'm guessing LED will replace the old lighting, ughhh.
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« Reply #970 on: April 18, 2018, 07:41:23 PM »

355 again with resurfacing!?? Didn't they do that back in like 2009? They shouldn't have done asphalt.

checked the Tollway site, looks like they will replace lighting too. I'm guessing LED will replace the old lighting, ughhh.

The original concrete was only 20 years old at the time, so they wouldn't be doing a total reconstruction of the concrete at that time. Considering that the asphalt is almost 9 years old, it's actually about right, based on the lifespan in a Northern climate, for a repaving to occur. Hopefully, this might involve also repaving the entire ramps as the pavement on those is starting to really show its age.

I am quite sure that the lighting replacement will be LED as that is what the tollway is going with now. It actually saves a lot in energy and lights up the tollways better. I know some like the "warmth" of the traditional sodium vapor lighting, but that is the way the Tollway is going, which I personally am fine with. I'd rather they be more efficient and light the road better, especially if it's safer. I get the feeling that all lighting on the Tollway system will be LED within the next 5 or so years.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #971 on: April 18, 2018, 11:12:52 PM »

355 again with resurfacing!?? Didn't they do that back in like 2009? They shouldn't have done asphalt.

checked the Tollway site, looks like they will replace lighting too. I'm guessing LED will replace the old lighting, ughhh.

The original concrete was only 20 years old at the time, so they wouldn't be doing a total reconstruction of the concrete at that time. Considering that the asphalt is almost 9 years old, it's actually about right, based on the lifespan in a Northern climate, for a repaving to occur. Hopefully, this might involve also repaving the entire ramps as the pavement on those is starting to really show its age.

I am quite sure that the lighting replacement will be LED as that is what the tollway is going with now. It actually saves a lot in energy and lights up the tollways better. I know some like the "warmth" of the traditional sodium vapor lighting, but that is the way the Tollway is going, which I personally am fine with. I'd rather they be more efficient and light the road better, especially if it's safer. I get the feeling that all lighting on the Tollway system will be LED within the next 5 or so years.

I think they should have done concrete the last time they did the repaving.

As for the lights, I'm all for efficient lights but I do prefer the orange hue, it feels better on the eyes.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #972 on: April 18, 2018, 11:43:09 PM »

355 again with resurfacing!?? Didn't they do that back in like 2009? They shouldn't have done asphalt.

checked the Tollway site, looks like they will replace lighting too. I'm guessing LED will replace the old lighting, ughhh.

The original concrete was only 20 years old at the time, so they wouldn't be doing a total reconstruction of the concrete at that time. Considering that the asphalt is almost 9 years old, it's actually about right, based on the lifespan in a Northern climate, for a repaving to occur. Hopefully, this might involve also repaving the entire ramps as the pavement on those is starting to really show its age.

I am quite sure that the lighting replacement will be LED as that is what the tollway is going with now. It actually saves a lot in energy and lights up the tollways better. I know some like the "warmth" of the traditional sodium vapor lighting, but that is the way the Tollway is going, which I personally am fine with. I'd rather they be more efficient and light the road better, especially if it's safer. I get the feeling that all lighting on the Tollway system will be LED within the next 5 or so years.

I think they should have done concrete the last time they did the repaving.

As for the lights, I'm all for efficient lights but I do prefer the orange hue, it feels better on the eyes.

While concrete is more ideal, it is also way more expensive. It also would have required tearing up the existing base pavement and been a much longer and more extensive project than I am sure was in the Tollway's budget and scope at the time. That's just generally not how the lifespan of expressway pavement goes, unless it is a really shoddy job that was done with the original pavement, they will overlay it with asphalt to extend the lifespan as much as possible, especially if it's 20 years old or less. I wouldn't be surprised if, a decade from now, they do consider a full pavement rebuild. By then, it would be the oldest original base pavement remaining in the system. However, I would argue that the Tollway in 2009 had and still has more pressing needs, such as rebuilding the Central Tri-State (I-294), which has some places where asphalt still overlays the original 60 year old pavement, as well as building/finishing I-490 for instance. I-355, generally, is serviceable with its current base pavement for now, and I imagine the Tollway is doing this repaving and improvment project now to minimize construction on I-355 during the I-294 rebuild. I would expect a jump in traffic on I-355 for people using it to avoid the mess that is going to be I-294 for the next 5 years or so. IMO, this is actually good planning when you think about it.

As for the debate on LED vs. traditional lighting, I guess that is a matter of personal preference. At this point, most of IDOT's installations remain traditional, so it certainly isn't a universal buy-in at this point for all Illinois agencies.
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #973 on: April 19, 2018, 06:14:23 PM »

While concrete is more ideal, it is also way more expensive. It also would have required tearing up the existing base pavement and been a much longer and more extensive project than I am sure was in the Tollway's budget and scope at the time.

They would not necessarily have to go too far into the base pavement if they did a concrete overlay.  While it would take longer and be harder to stager, it would be nicer than having another round of repairs in the near future. 

I seem to recall some other repair project on I-355 north of I-55 in this decade - besides the widening around 75th Street - anyone remember what it was?
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Re: Illinois notes
« Reply #974 on: April 19, 2018, 10:18:33 PM »

I-290 to I-355 can bypass that at the cost of time.
I-355 has road work and I-290 to I-90 sucks + I-290 to I-294 both ways is really BAD!!

You could just take I-290 to IL-83 to US-45 to I-80 to I-294. More complicated and more stoplights, but saves you from construction.
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